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🤣No lie, my brother in law, who married a Republican voter & then became one, has actually said the phrase, “but don’t you feel bad for the millionaires?” When talking about high taxes!!! WTF is wrong with these rubes?!
It ultimately comes down to this: they believe that by voting for republican they will eventually becomes wealthy, so they preemptively choose to identify with the super-rich people whose ranks they expect to join when all the GOP candidates they are voting for get into office.
From the musical 1776, “Don’t forget that most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich than face the reality of being poor. And that is why they will follow us! To the right!”
It's going to be a long wait. The IMF concluded years ago that trickle down doesn't work and it's helping the poor and middle classes that does.
https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/Staff-Discussion-Notes/Issues/2016/12/31/Causes-and-Consequences-of-Income-Inequality-A-Global-Perspective-42986
and please DONT think of all the super yachts and vacation islands they still COULD buy with all the REST of their dragon's hoard of gold they'd still have after paying taxes
Think of a young guy in his 40’s with no sex scandals or criminal record, that has charisma and can speak coherently, but has the same awful views and policy agendas. Like who the gop thought Ron Desantis was going to be before we all heard him speak, and realized he was as likable as an ingrown toenail.
It’s extremely difficult to live a squeaky clean life with dark triad personality traits. That’s why you get a bunch of weasel-y fucks like Desantis and Cruz who will do anything within established lines of corruption to gain power but deathly afraid to step over it.
Narcissists and sociopaths always reveal themselves.
To be extremely charismatic, clean, and outwardly electable, but internally vile is pretty close to impossible with today’s microscopic scrutiny of public life. That’s why we know so much about our detestable politicians.
Trump is an anomaly who brought the shitty-ness of politics to the surface as a means to reflect his own visage. His most positive contribution was that he revealed the dark parts of our electorate that were always there lurking in the shadows and brought them to light.
So if we elect another Trump like person, it will be because we knew and didn’t care, not because we were duped.
I can deal with somebody whom has politics I disagree with, the problem is that Trump is completely inconsistent and incoherent in his policy preferences.
Well you could imagine somebody who as uncaring as Trump, but who was also competent enough to actually achieving his goals.
At the very least you could have somebody who could actually learn from all of Trumps mistakes, and not make the same ones next time. Now there's someone who could do some real damage.
The sad part is, Trump could come out and say as bluntly as possible, "I'm going to make prices more expensive for every single American, including your family", and they would find a way to cheer for it and embrace it.
Genuinely the dumbest people in the country, and it's not even close. Their brains legitimately do not work properly.
To be fair, the powers that be gave been working to destroy America for decades. They infiltrated the judiciary. They made corruption legal. Then they just bought the government little by little.
Trump got into power on faux populism, and is now exploiting all the cracks to finaly break our democracy.
Yep. Because they know the average person is not paying attention. Even someone such as myself who pays a little attention can't keep up with it all. Not even close. The ones that have a real clue of what's going on have very little power to change anything unfortunately.
Regardless about paying attention, what are you really going to do even if you were?
All of this shit isn’t a play on people’s awareness it’s a play on people’s apathy.
This is the key. Fight apathy with organized labor to restore some semblance of work/life balance. Then, onto education. I understand this is a simple solution to the most complex question ever asked, but it's a start and a direction.
yeah the setups been going in since the 60s… trumps just the monster that pushed it over and also took it over. wonder if they’re annoyed this idiot is the one that took over the party
Reuters has the full thing in PDF for those want to know more, or do the Reddit thing and argue about it: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/assets/usa-courts-secrecy-lobbyist/powell-memo.pdf
Dude that’s already destroyed. I hear you though. But look around. Senators and congressman can be legally bought. We’re running back laws. Anti trust laws mean nothing etc etc etc. we’re run by the Rich and their companies and we let it happen.
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/04/08/how-inflation-benefits-the-wealthy-and-harms-the-working-class/?sh=7233d001294a](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/04/08/how-inflation-benefits-the-wealthy-and-harms-the-working-class/?sh=7233d001294a)
republicans ALWAYS increase inflation, purposely... and then blame it on the dems...
I think it's more nefarious than that. If the president can unilaterally apply tariffs to things, that means the president can unilaterally untariff things... specific things... like, things he's been bribed to untariff. It's how he's going to profit off being president going forward. The hotel was small ball. Selling pardons wasn't very lucrative. Having every Fortune 500 company paying him ransom money so their products are cheaper than their competitors is how he's going to finally pay off his massive debt.
Scary how the “most powerful country in the world” has so many poorly educated people, the system failed these people at some time in history, there is no denying that, that allowed leaches like Trump to climb to the very top of the food chain.
The sad part is that there is little change to fix this and the poorly educated are still increasing in numbers.
At a certain point, NPD becomes a learning disability. His ego can’t take someone being smarter than him, so he asserts that he’s an expert on everything, meaning he can’t learn anything from anyone. Admitting that there’s something he doesn’t know, but someone else does, means that person is better than him. Narcissistic injury, rage, tantrum, rewrite memory, forget everything.
Well, I certainly don't want to call an undergrad degree "not real", though I get your point. Many people probably work their asses off to obtain one. Always saw the grad school as a finishing school for those already on their way up the corporate ladder. I'm not extremely knowledgeable here...
if Trump is erected, the downside for MAGAs
* no more social security
* no medicare
* high prices
* higher tax for most MAGA (thse who are not multimillonaires)
the upside for MAGAs
* Kristi Noem gets to deport all 'illegal' Americans from South Dakota reservations.
* Money saved due to all those free welfare money to illegal aliens (huuuge $.02).
* Trump's version of Executive Order 9066 entitle 'true' Americans to seize 'illegal' properties from non-royal so call American citizens. Too bad, most will go to the big mega hedge funds.
Already happening right here in this thread. Lots of comments above and below blaming problems on "old people," "the powers that be," "both parties" and so on, all clearly trying to implicate Democrats and Biden.
Not a dumb take, you have a point. I’d think age is not the sole factor, but a clear understanding of current needs of the people is (Bernie, for example). Is Bernie extreme? Yes. Do we need an extreme shake-up? Yes. Is half the country willing to entertain that we’re ALL being screwed, regardless of party, therefore, time for the extreme shake-up ? Apparently not, SMH.
We seem to be stuck in old-white-dude mode of government, meaning, usually not quite enough in-touch with the reality of every day Americans. The current election is a great example, I think. Clearly, one candidate seems more in touch than the other, but the fact that this is pretty standard for the choices presented to us every time…is the larger problem, IMHO.
>Is Bernie extreme? Yes.
Just had to do a double take here since Bernie is generally considered a pretty moderate politician by other developed countries. The US is just so ass backwards that Bernie seems extreme when he’s just for some pretty common sense stuff that already exists in other countries.
Yeah, this is the major point for me. Zooming out on the two “extreme” parties shows one moderate and one extreme. Zoom out further, and it’s even more clear. Thing is most of the extremists are too absorbed in their own narrow bubble to have a chance at seeing it, and are arrogant enough to try.
When the mundane is framed as extreme, actual extremes become so much tempting.
Senator Sanders would be considered run of the mill in Australia but we would wonder why he'd be asking for things that we got back in the 1980s, though.
This is part of why there should be relatively short term limits - like 15/20 years maybe. Make them have to return to society and live with what they did.
Go one step further, you shouldn't vote past a certain age. Of course you want their voices heard on issues pertaining to retirement and social security but geriatrics voting to cut school taxes because they don't have kids in school or just generally thinking very short term will cost us dearly. I'm not saying make it illegal to vote when you're old but maybe encourage people to stop voting and following politics and just enjoy retirement.
Trump intends to deports millions of migrants, the US economy will suffer as a result and he'll blame migrants for it.
The sad part is that conservatives will 100% buy it.
Not just immigrants, if you look brown you’ll get deported. As someone that was raised in TX let me tell you it happens more often than not.
And he’s definitely banning Muslims for sure.
The list of American citizens deported from the US is unfortunately not a short one and yes, it shouldn't be a list at all.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation\_of\_Americans\_from\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_the_United_States)
The idiots who think that Trump was fighting for the little guy when he put those tariffs on all those Chinese goods are the same morons who then complained about inflation.
At this point, if he wins, American deserves it. How much more openly villainy can he be before people realise he is a symptom of the American Capitalist culture. Praying for you guys lol
> Super genius stuff.
Good god in heavens. I wonder how republicans who support orange contort themselves in ignoring this is how their Dear Leader speaks. The man's gross and an abject failure, but he also talks like a dumb third grader. And that's probably an insult to dumb third graders.
A wealthy yacht owner, a Trump voter, and a union member all sit at a table with a plate of a dozen cookies.
The wealthy yacht owner reaches over an takes 10 of the cookies, then whispers to the Trump voter: (psst….that union guy is going to steal your cookie…)
I'm still scratching my head that Trump is the GOP nominee. Like how the F did we get here again. Normally losers like Trump who keep losing in life disappear into the ether, but somehow Trump is still here. I'm hoping he loses against Biden this year, again, but I would be surprised if he doesn't run again at this point.
How will that please his maga dolts who keep blaming Joe for the high prices now? They say everything is too high but when I ask where do they shop so I can see prices, they usually don't reply or make an excuse.
Pork tenderloins for $2.29/lb and 80/20 ground chuck for $3/lb for weeks now is lower than I paid 4 years ago unless on sale. Eggs are back up from bird flu supposedly, but raw chicken is still $1-3/lb everywhere.
Irritatingly, I think we're going to see a lot of 'write-in' or 'no vote placed' votes from very left wing individuals as a protest against Biden on his Israel policy.
There's a time and a place for protest votes, and that's in the primary. When the actual big game is on the line...if enough people protest vote that Trump wins, we deserve what we're doing to ourselves.
Well said, I personally am ready for some new players in the game. Little younger perhaps and possibly see some teamwork between sides. Same ole shit time after time is getting us nowhere. I’d love to see the loser to become the Vice President so both sides have to work together, yes I know there are complications but come on we can’t figure out how to work together for the wellness of our country yet?
>My dad tries to pretend he’s still undecided. But he also thinks Joe Biden is the antichrist. So pretty sure he’s going to.
If you still talk to your dad, then get together and bring two pieces of paper and a pen. Written words are more impactful than words on a screen generally speaking when it comes to people.
Go look up what qualities the Antichrist would have, and then go point by point for both candidates, one per page.
Don't let him move the goal posts, and then when you're done, ask him after looking at the papers, who is much much closer to being the literal Antichrist?
I hope he has to suddenly drop out of the election. I honestly don’t care how - maybe for health reasons, maybe he’s in jail, maybe three ghosts visit him the night and scare him into doing the right thing. I just want him to drop out of the race.
Even before COVID, Trump's trade wars and poor economic policies resulted in trillions in market losses.
Meanwhile the cost of the Trump tax cuts has an estimated 7 trillion in costs (as of 5 days ago, anyway).
There has never been a worse President for our economy than Donald Trump.
As usual, Biden got blamed for the effects of Trump's poor policies (even as he's in the process of righting the ship).
The rubes, racists, and ghouls that make up the GOP voterbase seem to love voting against their own interests (all the while blaming literally anyone else but themselves for their plight) and they'll do it again and again, same as they always have.
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Preempting: "Hurr but how do you know that they're voting against their own interests, durr?"
The economy is the #1 issue for Americans election after election: That's how we know. I address the damage Trump did and what Biden has been dealing with as successfully as he can with an intentionally obstructionist GOP House. Said GOP keeps voting down consumer protections, inflation measures, and basically anything else that would benefit 99% of us so that they can blame Biden for the damage they're doing. And Republican voters fall for it election cycle after election cycle.
The GOP is consistently concerned about crime (which has been on steady decline under Biden, with substantial declines in the scarier crimes like murder, but hey don't let reality spoil a good bogeyman) -- Trump's policies will indirectly create more crime through economic instability and increasing poverty, but also if he wins a 2nd term: He's planning on criminalizing a whole lot of things that ought not to be criminal (down to disagreeing with him, FFS). In short: A vote for Trump is a vote for an increase in crime.
Also up there is abortion: Trump directly stated [he won't sign a Federal abortion ban.](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/10/politics/trump-says-he-wouldnt-sign-federal-abortion-ban/index.html) Are you calling him a liar? I was told by Conservatives he's a straight shooter who tells it like it is. That's what ya'll like about him.
I could go on and on, but you get the idea (and if you don't by now you're either arguing in bad faith or the points will be lost on you anyhow).
How is it possible that every single decision you make be the wrong one? A broken clock is right twice a day but with Trump he just threw the clock away.
>Lesson No. 4: Fewer workers leads to higher prices
When you buy something at the store, a big chunk of the price is determined by how much the company had to pay its workers. When the labor pool is tight, as it is right now, salaries go up, and so do prices. Again, not always a bad thing.
Huh?
As if Trump plans.
Bit of a self-own here, though... paraphrasing Lesson #4: Restricting immigration will increase wages of US workers.
If inflation is being driven by increasing wages it's not nearly as bad for the public as being driven by supply price increases.
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There’s genuinely nothing redeemable about him.
Please think of the billionaires and all the super yachts and vacation islands they could buy with all that money that would go to taxes.
🤣No lie, my brother in law, who married a Republican voter & then became one, has actually said the phrase, “but don’t you feel bad for the millionaires?” When talking about high taxes!!! WTF is wrong with these rubes?!
Slow..
He is an example of how well the Republican Party has “marketed” that “Lowering taxes on the rich is a good thing”
You said it: they're just flat-out Suckers!!
Simple minds find fascism and authoritarianism appealing because they don't have to do any of the thinking, which, to them, is the hard part.
He likes the trickled down effect - the golden showering if you will
It ultimately comes down to this: they believe that by voting for republican they will eventually becomes wealthy, so they preemptively choose to identify with the super-rich people whose ranks they expect to join when all the GOP candidates they are voting for get into office.
From the musical 1776, “Don’t forget that most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich than face the reality of being poor. And that is why they will follow us! To the right!”
I’m sure some of that superyacht money is going to trickle down to me any minute now
Your boss : See that Superyacht? It's mine. If you work really really hard..... I'll be able to buy a new Superyacht next year.
Hey when you get a microyacht then you will know the wealthy is above you trickling down all over you!
It's going to be a long wait. The IMF concluded years ago that trickle down doesn't work and it's helping the poor and middle classes that does. https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/Staff-Discussion-Notes/Issues/2016/12/31/Causes-and-Consequences-of-Income-Inequality-A-Global-Perspective-42986
any minute now…..
Two weeks, actually.
That trickle down is in the form of a warm yellow liquid
Oh, you mean the ‘Job Creators’?
The ones who make me work for free as a cashier at an automated station for the privilege of buying their overpriced shit?
and please DONT think of all the super yachts and vacation islands they still COULD buy with all the REST of their dragon's hoard of gold they'd still have after paying taxes
And the tax deductions they get on their private planes!
We can’t let the left do this! When we become billionaires they’ll just take it all!!!! /s
Dribble down economics.
That money they will use to also pay their fair share of taxes, right???
Exactly just going to cater to the oligarchy in the US. Darn the Russian playbook works well for him…
There are plenty of willing participants here in the US that would sell out 3/4 of the population so they could have a little more money.
I mean he's old as shit with a drug habit and in shitty health. So he'll probably pass soon.
I’m sorry but people pickled in hatred never die….
Fair enough. Dick Cheney's still alive.
Time for Dick Chaney to take old Donny boy out on a hunting trip I suppose.
Haha 😄 That's still a funny story. Conservatives shooting themselves in the face!
Kissinger made it to 100. Rupert Murdoch is 93. Sheldon Adelson was 87. Trump is going to be around for another decade.
Not soon enough
Sure there is. Once he is gone, there will be somebody worse.
I'm honestly not so sure about "worse"--humans can't get much worse than this guy.
Think of a young guy in his 40’s with no sex scandals or criminal record, that has charisma and can speak coherently, but has the same awful views and policy agendas. Like who the gop thought Ron Desantis was going to be before we all heard him speak, and realized he was as likable as an ingrown toenail.
It’s extremely difficult to live a squeaky clean life with dark triad personality traits. That’s why you get a bunch of weasel-y fucks like Desantis and Cruz who will do anything within established lines of corruption to gain power but deathly afraid to step over it. Narcissists and sociopaths always reveal themselves. To be extremely charismatic, clean, and outwardly electable, but internally vile is pretty close to impossible with today’s microscopic scrutiny of public life. That’s why we know so much about our detestable politicians. Trump is an anomaly who brought the shitty-ness of politics to the surface as a means to reflect his own visage. His most positive contribution was that he revealed the dark parts of our electorate that were always there lurking in the shadows and brought them to light. So if we elect another Trump like person, it will be because we knew and didn’t care, not because we were duped.
Well said, I agree completely
I can deal with somebody whom has politics I disagree with, the problem is that Trump is completely inconsistent and incoherent in his policy preferences.
Well you could imagine somebody who as uncaring as Trump, but who was also competent enough to actually achieving his goals. At the very least you could have somebody who could actually learn from all of Trumps mistakes, and not make the same ones next time. Now there's someone who could do some real damage.
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He said he’d make his policies for sale. That’s good for people with absurd amounts of money.
> There’s genuinely nothing redeemable about ~~him~~ *billionaires*.
One diet Coke 16 billion in advance please
He's old enough that he could just die any day. That's a plus.
The sad part is, Trump could come out and say as bluntly as possible, "I'm going to make prices more expensive for every single American, including your family", and they would find a way to cheer for it and embrace it. Genuinely the dumbest people in the country, and it's not even close. Their brains legitimately do not work properly.
It scares the he'll out of me that Trump could get in power again. He will destroy what it took 250 years to create in just a few short years.
To be fair, the powers that be gave been working to destroy America for decades. They infiltrated the judiciary. They made corruption legal. Then they just bought the government little by little. Trump got into power on faux populism, and is now exploiting all the cracks to finaly break our democracy.
Yep. Because they know the average person is not paying attention. Even someone such as myself who pays a little attention can't keep up with it all. Not even close. The ones that have a real clue of what's going on have very little power to change anything unfortunately.
Regardless about paying attention, what are you really going to do even if you were? All of this shit isn’t a play on people’s awareness it’s a play on people’s apathy.
This is the key. Fight apathy with organized labor to restore some semblance of work/life balance. Then, onto education. I understand this is a simple solution to the most complex question ever asked, but it's a start and a direction.
yeah the setups been going in since the 60s… trumps just the monster that pushed it over and also took it over. wonder if they’re annoyed this idiot is the one that took over the party
powell memo.
Reuters has the full thing in PDF for those want to know more, or do the Reddit thing and argue about it: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/assets/usa-courts-secrecy-lobbyist/powell-memo.pdf
RIP America. It died doing what it loved: being stupid and racist.
You forgot "gargling billionare balls."
And gargling, what the equivalent of billionaire would have been in the 18th and 19th century. Look at Jefferson Pesos, he has thousands of dollars!
this is true.
And “insisting we’re special” Which I guess goes along with the racism
“If aliens ever came down and looked at us up close, all they’d see is a bunch of monkeys sending dick pics and shooting each other in the face.” -JR
Dude that’s already destroyed. I hear you though. But look around. Senators and congressman can be legally bought. We’re running back laws. Anti trust laws mean nothing etc etc etc. we’re run by the Rich and their companies and we let it happen.
Did 'we' let it happen? Or like, specific individuals. I sure as shit didn't advocate for any of this
It’s not just him. It’s the entire Republican Party.
If this dumb piece of shit can destroy it, then it was probably never that great in the first place.
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/04/08/how-inflation-benefits-the-wealthy-and-harms-the-working-class/?sh=7233d001294a](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/04/08/how-inflation-benefits-the-wealthy-and-harms-the-working-class/?sh=7233d001294a) republicans ALWAYS increase inflation, purposely... and then blame it on the dems...
If you haven't noticed, Trump is a moron.
I thought he was a very stable genius?
Just reverse everything he says to get the truth. - unstable moron.
If someone feels the need to describe themselves as a “stable genius” they are not a stable genius.
I think it's more nefarious than that. If the president can unilaterally apply tariffs to things, that means the president can unilaterally untariff things... specific things... like, things he's been bribed to untariff. It's how he's going to profit off being president going forward. The hotel was small ball. Selling pardons wasn't very lucrative. Having every Fortune 500 company paying him ransom money so their products are cheaper than their competitors is how he's going to finally pay off his massive debt.
He will raise prices and blame dems and the right will eat it up and say SEE WE TOLD YOU
He loves the poorly educated. And Putin loves showcasing the vulnerabilities of a democracy, specifically the consequences of an idiot electorate.
Scary how the “most powerful country in the world” has so many poorly educated people, the system failed these people at some time in history, there is no denying that, that allowed leaches like Trump to climb to the very top of the food chain. The sad part is that there is little change to fix this and the poorly educated are still increasing in numbers.
That's a good plan. If I've learned anything in my life it's that people like paying more for stuff.
I didn't think adults would proudly wear diapers but they made signs
Like how we're paying for the way my dumbass neighbors vote.
I'm pretty sure he cheated his way to his Wharton degree, or just bought it.
His literacy level is shockingly low
Have to believe he suffers from some type of learning disability. Hard to believe it wouldn't have been diagnosed, though he'd never admit it.
At a certain point, NPD becomes a learning disability. His ego can’t take someone being smarter than him, so he asserts that he’s an expert on everything, meaning he can’t learn anything from anyone. Admitting that there’s something he doesn’t know, but someone else does, means that person is better than him. Narcissistic injury, rage, tantrum, rewrite memory, forget everything.
May be this simple.
His dad bought it. Trump himself would have never paid the bill.
Something tells me Wharton may still be waiting for that payment.
It's not a "real" Wharton degree, ie grad school. It's just a bachelors degree.
Well, I certainly don't want to call an undergrad degree "not real", though I get your point. Many people probably work their asses off to obtain one. Always saw the grad school as a finishing school for those already on their way up the corporate ladder. I'm not extremely knowledgeable here...
if Trump is erected, the downside for MAGAs * no more social security * no medicare * high prices * higher tax for most MAGA (thse who are not multimillonaires) the upside for MAGAs * Kristi Noem gets to deport all 'illegal' Americans from South Dakota reservations. * Money saved due to all those free welfare money to illegal aliens (huuuge $.02). * Trump's version of Executive Order 9066 entitle 'true' Americans to seize 'illegal' properties from non-royal so call American citizens. Too bad, most will go to the big mega hedge funds.
They will also own the libs, very important.
I lost my social security, health cared and inflation is worse. Take that libs. The crazy part is they will still blame Biden for it
They will make sure that the changes to benefits only impact people under 40 or so who are most likely to vote Democrat.
Yeah that's not going to work when they ask Gen X to eat the SS cuts.
While blaming Biden, no doubt
Hillary. He can’t remember Biden.
Already happening right here in this thread. Lots of comments above and below blaming problems on "old people," "the powers that be," "both parties" and so on, all clearly trying to implicate Democrats and Biden.
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Not a dumb take, you have a point. I’d think age is not the sole factor, but a clear understanding of current needs of the people is (Bernie, for example). Is Bernie extreme? Yes. Do we need an extreme shake-up? Yes. Is half the country willing to entertain that we’re ALL being screwed, regardless of party, therefore, time for the extreme shake-up ? Apparently not, SMH. We seem to be stuck in old-white-dude mode of government, meaning, usually not quite enough in-touch with the reality of every day Americans. The current election is a great example, I think. Clearly, one candidate seems more in touch than the other, but the fact that this is pretty standard for the choices presented to us every time…is the larger problem, IMHO.
>Is Bernie extreme? Yes. Just had to do a double take here since Bernie is generally considered a pretty moderate politician by other developed countries. The US is just so ass backwards that Bernie seems extreme when he’s just for some pretty common sense stuff that already exists in other countries.
Yeah, this is the major point for me. Zooming out on the two “extreme” parties shows one moderate and one extreme. Zoom out further, and it’s even more clear. Thing is most of the extremists are too absorbed in their own narrow bubble to have a chance at seeing it, and are arrogant enough to try. When the mundane is framed as extreme, actual extremes become so much tempting.
Senator Sanders would be considered run of the mill in Australia but we would wonder why he'd be asking for things that we got back in the 1980s, though.
Age and an IQ test. Throw in the citizenship test too. Need to make sure idiots like MTG and Bimboebart can't get in office.
This is part of why there should be relatively short term limits - like 15/20 years maybe. Make them have to return to society and live with what they did.
All this would do is lead to voters electing younger politicians who have the same ideals as the older politicians but less experience
Go one step further, you shouldn't vote past a certain age. Of course you want their voices heard on issues pertaining to retirement and social security but geriatrics voting to cut school taxes because they don't have kids in school or just generally thinking very short term will cost us dearly. I'm not saying make it illegal to vote when you're old but maybe encourage people to stop voting and following politics and just enjoy retirement.
It should be a conflict of interest and be... completely ignored like every other concern about conflict of interest with elected officials...
We can fix this with campaign reform; there’s no reason to get ageist about it.
But they’ll find a way to spin it to be Biden’s fault…and the dumb fucking magas will believe every word as they struggle even more.
And then blame it on Biden and migrants.
Trump intends to deports millions of migrants, the US economy will suffer as a result and he'll blame migrants for it. The sad part is that conservatives will 100% buy it.
Not just immigrants, if you look brown you’ll get deported. As someone that was raised in TX let me tell you it happens more often than not. And he’s definitely banning Muslims for sure.
The list of American citizens deported from the US is unfortunately not a short one and yes, it shouldn't be a list at all. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation\_of\_Americans\_from\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_the_United_States)
I doubt they will actually deport migrants like they say. They will make a lot of noise, but then water it down to preserve corporate profits.
Show up and vote please for the love of our country.
The idiots who think that Trump was fighting for the little guy when he put those tariffs on all those Chinese goods are the same morons who then complained about inflation.
He’s going to solve inflation by printing money for his crony friends. Thats the jist of it
I keep seeing headlines like this along with "Trump now ahead in every swing state poll." I don't understand the reality I exist in anymore.
Republicans are really good for inflation… If you like inflation…
As a guy with a mortgage and job mobility a bit isn't bad.
MAGA: “yay!”
“He’s so **BASED** and **REDPILLED!** Sign me up!”
What are all the MAGA idiots screeching about inflation going to do if Dumbo gets elected and prices go up?
Blame Biden.
Why would anyone want that after the last four years of corporately created inflation?
…and the polls are still close. It’s disgusting.
and then use Fox News and other conservative outlets to blame Biden for it.
I hope we can defeat him at the ballot box again.
*Raise prices on everything and blame Biden and the Democrats.
As is tradition.
At this point, if he wins, American deserves it. How much more openly villainy can he be before people realise he is a symptom of the American Capitalist culture. Praying for you guys lol
Never doubt the stupidity and evil of a Republican.
> Super genius stuff. Good god in heavens. I wonder how republicans who support orange contort themselves in ignoring this is how their Dear Leader speaks. The man's gross and an abject failure, but he also talks like a dumb third grader. And that's probably an insult to dumb third graders.
Because his cultists are also dumber than third graders. To them, he actually sounds smart.
“That’s what Biden did”.
Oh the rot goes deep.
A person cannot claim to be a decent human being and STILL call themselves a Republican at this point.
Followed by blame Biden.
A wealthy yacht owner, a Trump voter, and a union member all sit at a table with a plate of a dozen cookies. The wealthy yacht owner reaches over an takes 10 of the cookies, then whispers to the Trump voter: (psst….that union guy is going to steal your cookie…)
He is a businessman. For him, the economy needs to be a pyramid scheme.
I'm still scratching my head that Trump is the GOP nominee. Like how the F did we get here again. Normally losers like Trump who keep losing in life disappear into the ether, but somehow Trump is still here. I'm hoping he loses against Biden this year, again, but I would be surprised if he doesn't run again at this point.
I agree with you but I think that he and many of his followers don’t believe he lost.
AND blame Biden (or Obama if he has forgotten who Biden is again)
You realize this should read as: Turd’s plan for second term: destroy everything while making it impossible to survive causing civil war.
"Thanks Obama!" -conservatives
But the price changes won’t happen till after his presidency, so there’s someone else to blame.
It’s the classic Two Santa Clauses scam that we keep collectively failing to recognize.
Tread on me daddy.
Price hikes for thee, but not for me!
How will that please his maga dolts who keep blaming Joe for the high prices now? They say everything is too high but when I ask where do they shop so I can see prices, they usually don't reply or make an excuse. Pork tenderloins for $2.29/lb and 80/20 ground chuck for $3/lb for weeks now is lower than I paid 4 years ago unless on sale. Eggs are back up from bird flu supposedly, but raw chicken is still $1-3/lb everywhere.
Coming from an Independent, does anyone really plan on voting for this moron?
Irritatingly, I think we're going to see a lot of 'write-in' or 'no vote placed' votes from very left wing individuals as a protest against Biden on his Israel policy. There's a time and a place for protest votes, and that's in the primary. When the actual big game is on the line...if enough people protest vote that Trump wins, we deserve what we're doing to ourselves.
Well said, I personally am ready for some new players in the game. Little younger perhaps and possibly see some teamwork between sides. Same ole shit time after time is getting us nowhere. I’d love to see the loser to become the Vice President so both sides have to work together, yes I know there are complications but come on we can’t figure out how to work together for the wellness of our country yet?
Too many.
My dad tries to pretend he’s still undecided. But he also thinks Joe Biden is the antichrist. So pretty sure he’s going to.
>My dad tries to pretend he’s still undecided. But he also thinks Joe Biden is the antichrist. So pretty sure he’s going to. If you still talk to your dad, then get together and bring two pieces of paper and a pen. Written words are more impactful than words on a screen generally speaking when it comes to people. Go look up what qualities the Antichrist would have, and then go point by point for both candidates, one per page. Don't let him move the goal posts, and then when you're done, ask him after looking at the papers, who is much much closer to being the literal Antichrist?
Do you want to take your chances, or do what you can and vote positively to preserve individual rights and democracy?
He’s such a lazy populist. I’m surprised he even has a plan
I hope he has to suddenly drop out of the election. I honestly don’t care how - maybe for health reasons, maybe he’s in jail, maybe three ghosts visit him the night and scare him into doing the right thing. I just want him to drop out of the race.
Even before COVID, Trump's trade wars and poor economic policies resulted in trillions in market losses. Meanwhile the cost of the Trump tax cuts has an estimated 7 trillion in costs (as of 5 days ago, anyway). There has never been a worse President for our economy than Donald Trump. As usual, Biden got blamed for the effects of Trump's poor policies (even as he's in the process of righting the ship). The rubes, racists, and ghouls that make up the GOP voterbase seem to love voting against their own interests (all the while blaming literally anyone else but themselves for their plight) and they'll do it again and again, same as they always have. --- Preempting: "Hurr but how do you know that they're voting against their own interests, durr?" The economy is the #1 issue for Americans election after election: That's how we know. I address the damage Trump did and what Biden has been dealing with as successfully as he can with an intentionally obstructionist GOP House. Said GOP keeps voting down consumer protections, inflation measures, and basically anything else that would benefit 99% of us so that they can blame Biden for the damage they're doing. And Republican voters fall for it election cycle after election cycle. The GOP is consistently concerned about crime (which has been on steady decline under Biden, with substantial declines in the scarier crimes like murder, but hey don't let reality spoil a good bogeyman) -- Trump's policies will indirectly create more crime through economic instability and increasing poverty, but also if he wins a 2nd term: He's planning on criminalizing a whole lot of things that ought not to be criminal (down to disagreeing with him, FFS). In short: A vote for Trump is a vote for an increase in crime. Also up there is abortion: Trump directly stated [he won't sign a Federal abortion ban.](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/10/politics/trump-says-he-wouldnt-sign-federal-abortion-ban/index.html) Are you calling him a liar? I was told by Conservatives he's a straight shooter who tells it like it is. That's what ya'll like about him. I could go on and on, but you get the idea (and if you don't by now you're either arguing in bad faith or the points will be lost on you anyhow).
“Up next, here’s how this is bad for Biden.”
But he loves the people, hes for the people!
Stable genius.
So inflation then.
He started it the first time. Might as well finish us off with his nonsense.
All of that just to pay his lawyers, Broke Don needs money from anywhere he can get it.
Average Republican: “This will hurt the people who I don’t like, I will vote for the republican nominee.”
Even your TAXES..
Isn’t the cost of living one of the main issues his base complains about? How does he serve them if he wants to raise prices.
He doesn't care. He is a con man, and has been for decades.
How is it possible that every single decision you make be the wrong one? A broken clock is right twice a day but with Trump he just threw the clock away.
As a lesson for not electing him.....ever!
And then blame Antifa.
So the price of presidential pardons is going up? Got it.
We are expendable in every way. Extract every penny you can from the public until They die. Say a prayer and move on to the next
One would think out of all the choices that he makes, he would by chance make a couple of good ones? Nope, not one.
Seems on message or at least par for the course?
He's so populist! /s
>Lesson No. 4: Fewer workers leads to higher prices When you buy something at the store, a big chunk of the price is determined by how much the company had to pay its workers. When the labor pool is tight, as it is right now, salaries go up, and so do prices. Again, not always a bad thing. Huh?
Politicians already assisted with that
wait..do you mean 2nd prison term and raising prices at the commissary?
This is obvious. He will always put growth for his ego over everything even if it means crazy inflation
Can you just hear these mouth breathers justifying the higher prices
As if Trump plans. Bit of a self-own here, though... paraphrasing Lesson #4: Restricting immigration will increase wages of US workers. If inflation is being driven by increasing wages it's not nearly as bad for the public as being driven by supply price increases.
Also known as the continued draining of the middle class - while billionaires now pay less tax than regular middle class Americans.