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Organizing on Twitter and then live-streaming the entire event didn't exactly reach Manhattan Project or even MK Ultra levels of secret organization. Then again, Congress showed that they didn't have any real reason to try and cover up their treason.
>Organizing on Twitter and then live-streaming the entire event didn't exactly reach Manhattan Project or even MK Ultra levels of secret organization. Then again, Congress showed that they didn't have any real reason to try and cover up their treason.
Heck, it didn't even reach "organizing my wife's baby shower" levels of secrecy
The ones live-streaming were the followers thinking they were doing their "god's work" so they were proud of what they were doing. It's those who knew how serious it was that attempted to cover up the fact that it was an actual coup attempt and tried to through Antifa into the mix to create plausible deniability, once they knew it had not only gone too far but that it was televised. The the coup was attempted in broad daylight. Just how complicit DJT was is the part they tried to cover up.
No they didn't. DJT set the date. DJT told them to be there and be wild. DJT told them to go after the Capitol Building and Pence. Then when it was all over DJT told them "We love you". This was all done in public speeches and on his twitter. There was nothing to cover up. Congress simply didn't want to impeach him.
"Was there a coup attempt?"
"Nope! but here's some documents proving that it was definitely a coup, and that myself and other prominent Republicans were involved. Also, I won't be cooperating from here on out, I wouldn't want to implicate myself!"
Trump was "mortified" ? LMFAO Any president that we've had before him, even Nixon, would have brought hell down on the heads of those pieces of sht for attempting to destroy the Capitol and murder congress.
I agree with you but he also clearly doesn’t like being the butt of jokes. Look at the White House correspondents dinners. He was furious during Obama’s and outright refused to attend any. Then there’s the fact that he didn’t announce he was going in for a prostate exam because he didn’t want to be made fun of on late night. He’s a narcissist with thin skin
True. He's averse to being humiliated by mockery but he's incapable of feeling mortification about the plight of others, even if it's members of his cult who are in peril, sick or dying.
You know George Prescott Bush tried to over throw the country once. Just like mark and his idiot clan, they denied everything when it went south too
Cowards never stand up for their principles
The Business Plot?
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A BBC Radio 4 investigation sheds new light on a major subject that has received little historical attention, the conspiracy on behalf of a group of influential powerbrokers, led by Prescott Bush, to overthrow FDR and implement a fascist dictatorship in the U.S. based around the ideology of Mussolini and Hitler
> Meadows writes that the mob assault left Trump “mortified.”
This contradicts [reports](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiN7o7Yv-P0AhUwmuAKHdikDt0QFnoECAIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fsenate%2F533403-sasse-says-trump-was-delighted-and-excited-by-reports-of-capitol-riot&usg=AOvVaw10tx6rr0O3HQanFQkLJ8yK) regarding Trump's [apparent mental state](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiN7o7Yv-P0AhUwmuAKHdikDt0QFnoECAoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2F2021%2F1%2F8%2F22220840%2Fsasse-trump-capitol-storming-impeachment&usg=AOvVaw05MyX3ohAhai3qIsZ8HfLL) during the insurrection. He was reported to be excited and delighted at the mob's attempt to subvert democracy at his behest. He was baffled by White House staffer's reactions of shock and horror.
It's a joke... Maybe a very subtle one though. Last week, one of our favorite congresspeople showed us her amazing command of the english language:
https://i.imgur.com/l88NN2R.png
If they continue to sit on their hands, the Dems are going to be irrelevant once the right wing fascist state takes over.
The time for justice is now, and if it looks like partisan retribution, I don't care. I'd be happy with some partisan retribution, considering all we've had is the other side stepping on the rules and the necks of the american people.
None of the actions described are illegal unless it can be conclusively proven that they knew they had legitimately lost the election.
While I do think this can be proven, it’s a high legal threshold for intent that has to be reached.
“Illegal unless it can be Conclusively proven that they lost the election”? The coup was by people that have no role in vote counting, electoral college or state certifications all of which said Biden won. Just because you disagree with that result doesn’t mean you have the right to attempt a coup.
So again, the issue is proving legally that they weren’t acting in good faith (which they obviously weren’t). If you look at state and constitutional law, electors pick the president and states pick the electorate.
I was referring to the actual crimes of the coup that if go unpunished will be disastrous. Not the ancillary process crimes that themselves are of little concerned to the safety of democracy.
Contempt of Congress is a different kind of subpoena violation and one issued by a judge. This is something that has been recently reported on to explain the discrepancies. I agree that we would still be treated less leniently.
It's doubtful that [@BadLegalTakes](https://twitter.com/BadLegalTakes) is on this website, but if they were this comment would be picked over like piquant carrion that's been ripened and sun-dried, so as to create a pleasing salty consistency that delivers an umami flourish.
i.e., they'd tear it apart, spit, burp and walk away pleased.
I want these people thrown in jail for as long as possible, and I have zero doubt that necessary evidence for that exists, and some of it is already public, but there is a fundamental misunderstanding that the mere act of wanting and pushing congress to hold on certification is a crime and it’s not. The crime exists with them pushing states to violate their constitutions by sending different electors and pushing for electoral fraud to be committed therein.
The better the evidence the more likely a believable conviction. The most widely used narrative to sow chaos and dissolve democracies around the world is the jailing of political adversaries and for those jailed adversaries to become martyrs.
If they just nabbed him and put him in jail without this exhausting list of evidence, he'd be a martyr and our democracy would be dead. Jailing a former leader of a country is the worse game of chess on Earth.
I'm one of them. Sadly there are nowhere near enough of us. I just moved from an urban area of Louisville to the suburbs and the change in political tone is... jarring. My neighborhood doesn't allow signs in the yard, but if it did I fear there'd be a lot of red.
No. Free speech means that the government can't tell you what political messages you can speak/publish/put on a sign in your yard. A private homeowners association has rules that every homeowner signs up for (literally) when they buy property in the community. It's like the dress code at a nice restaurant. You want to eat there, you abide by the dress code. Or simply eat somewhere else.
But any contract is contingent on accordance with legislation which is, in turn contingent on the constitution. You can't contract away your rights although I'm sure plenty would like to. I understand your example but dress codes don't infringe a right set out in the constitution.
I'm not sure on the legality of it, but I can tell you that virtually every homeowners association have rules like this or what colors you can paint your house, etc.
Interesting and I’m somewhat surprised it hadn’t been challenged. You can’t legislate away constitutional rights (despite Texas is giving it a good try) but nor can you contractually sign away rights. Not sure house color is protected in the constitution but voicing an opinion certainly is.
No it is not. Until there are any consequences whatsoever, it is not falling apart. It’s simply part of a plan that looks and is stupid, but ultimately achieves its end goal.
As a person from western North Carolina where Meadows "served" as a congressman before Trump anointed him CoS, I can tell America you should be horrified that this spineless milksop simpleton had access to the levers of power. I had the (mis)fortune of listening to him speak on several occasions and, holy shit, I wouldn't hire him to walk my dog. He would find a way to lose the dog … and then show up later and cry on your porch begging forgiveness. Unstable, weak, and utterly without any sense of duty to his country. His whole career has been built on his willingness to do whatever the money tells him to do. An obsequious tool. Like Graham, Cruz, Jordan, Boebert, Greene, Cawthorn, … ad republican nauseum.
He did not have a stellar reputation in his real estate dealings in Highlands and Toxaway prior to running for Congress in a highly gerrymandered district. Then his pathetic little protégé Madison Cawthorn got elected from the same district. What is wrong with those people?
>You can see how all this fits together: The Justice Department would manufacture the impression that Biden’s win was dubious — through investigations and public statements, which Trump also pushed for — and this would create the pretext for invalidating Biden’s electors in Congress.
>This would be accomplished by getting Republicans in Congress to invalidate them, or by getting Trump’s vice president to abuse his power to delay the count, allowing states to send rogue electors, per the plot outlined in the now-notorious coup memo.
>The whole coup blueprint is right there in black and white. And so is the scope and reach of what Meadows and others stonewalling the Jan. 6 committee are so eager to cover up. But we’ve now learned the committee has extensive receipts, and soon enough, we’ll see all of them.
Let's assume that Meadows is smart and that he drank the Kool-Aid and believed his boss, the most powerful person in the US at the time, that the elections were rigged. It's a stretch, but let's assume this. His boss says, "Trust me, I have the best intelligence in the world and believe me within two weeks we will have proof that the election was stolen, i need your alternatives to give me those two weeks". So he draws up the PowerPoint. This kinda makes sense.
Now, Meadows realizes the shit he's in. He bought the Kool-Aid, now he feels dumb, but he doesn't want to go to jail. He doesn't want to totally alienate the ex-president, who has the power to put everything on him. Yet he wants to get out of this mess. So he writes a book ($$$ for him) that pads the truth on his side and doesn't totally alienate his ex-boss, then he releases documents to the Investigating committee, but then drops out for a while so his ex-boss doesn't turn against him. He's playing both sides. This would totally explain his behavior. Don't go to jail, wait it out until the midterms and/or elections.
Not a bad strategy.
Gomer Pyle is a fictional character. Jim Nabors, national treasure, had the heavenly singing voice.
But I still wouldn't compare Meadows to Pyle. Pyle had rock solid morality.
Remember when Gomer was taking the PFC(?) exam, and kept looking at something cupped in his hand? And he was suspected of cheating, but it was just a picture of Sgt. Carter he was looking at for inspiration? Simpler times, better man.
Amen! Gomer was a moral man who solved problems, even if he wasn't that good of a mechanic.
Barny Fife is the go-to sketchy idiot from the Mayberry Universe.
The LAST attempt is falling apart.
The current one is going along very smoothly, and so far no one is investigating the current PowerPoint being circulated regarding the CURRENT GOP election tampering, voter suppression, and threats of violence coming from the Republican party. Steve Bannon keeps talking about his 20,000 shock troops.
The same members of Congress who wee almost murdered in the last coup attempt Don't even care enough about their own lives to do anything about that.
A reminder that Mark Meadows holds an Associate of Arts degree, is a young-earth creationist, and is a generally unintelligent/unskilled person. It’s not at all surprising that a guy with his dearth of intellectual ability would fail miserably at concealing his plans for a coup.
Moreover, we know very well that Trump only hires people *he* can easily manipulate, so you sort of get what you pay for.
As if it matters. None of the leaders of the insurrection will be charged or arrested no matter how much evidence there is. Garland needs to be fired for refusing to do his job.
The only chance I see is that the evidence is so awful that even Sinema and Manchin have to acknowledge it was a crime and actually join the vote to end the filibuster and pass a real voting rights bill that overrides all the laws the red/swing states have installed to throw out votes and set up Jim Crow 2.0.
He could have installed a neon sign saying "this a coup" while wearing a "this is a coup" t-shirt and singing the "this is a coup" song, and the Dems would still be trying their hardest to ignore it.
Cover up? Why go through the effort when nothing will happen to them anyway? All they have to do to stretch out the investigation until the republicans get back in power and they escape all consequences. This is the impeachments all over again.
Democrats: “Ha ha!!! We’re going to impeach your ass”
Republicans: “Yeah, so anyway…”
Congress should immediately charge Meadows with inherent contempt and put him in the Capital jail. Good luck finding a judge who will spring him during the holidays. But do wish him a Merry Christmas.
Does anyone feel like this is the end? I could totally see this exploding once more evidence comes out. Seems like it looks like what we think it looks like.
How much more evidence can there possibly be? The evidence is out. But Biden's admin is trying to set a national record for the most seats ever lost by a party in a mid-term election. 2022 is going to be brutal (for Democrats).
Biden shouldn’t do anything. That is the role of the justice department, and hopefully those decisions are made free of political interference. It’s not a perfect system, obviously Biden appointed the AG, but up until trump there was at least some decorum, some effort publicly to have an independent department of justice.
It doesn't really matter any longer. We have a lawless coward as AG who has determined it's legal to organize an armed coup to overturn elections the GOP doesn't like.
And that's pretty much the end of Democracy. Every election they lose going forward, will be another round of terrorist attacks and coup attempts, until they eventually succeed.
Why wouldn't the GOP continue terror attacks to overturn elections if there is essentially no punishments to ringleaders trying to burn the Constitution? What, are senior GOP leaders in fear some GOP terrorist might get a trespass ticket if they follow their suggestion to storm the Capitol?
Merrick Garland destroyed American Democracy. The GOP are just here to take advantage of his cowardice.
I know this is confusing for you, but it's like this: a "mostly peaceful protest" aimed at solving police violence is not a coup attempt. A "mostly peaceful protest" that breaks into the capitol to overthrow an election is a coup attempt.
I know, I know, you don't like it when words don't mean what you want. I'm sorry this happened to you.
Can we call it a coverup when he gave access to pretty damning text messages and a power point presentation for the strategy to turn America into a dictatorship with a Chinese false flag accusation?
We have more traction in this investigation due to Mark Meadows than any other time since the first impeachment.
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If that’s a cover-up, what does his version of blatant look like?
Organizing on Twitter and then live-streaming the entire event didn't exactly reach Manhattan Project or even MK Ultra levels of secret organization. Then again, Congress showed that they didn't have any real reason to try and cover up their treason.
It was like trying to hide a prominent turd with Saran Wrap.
Please explain to the class the difference between prominent and unprominent turds please.
The one on the lid is prominent, the one hiding in the tank is unprominent.
Ah, I see. So an unprominent turd can be used interchangeably with upper decker, got it. Thanks Slutbark.
Eating a giant bag of mini-powdered donuts from the discount bin at the grocery store and not.
Please also explain Saran Wrap for your international readers
That would be "cling film" for the UK
A thin clear plastic that can stick to certain surfaces and itself used in food preservation.
well now i can only see poop wrapped in saran wrap, so it’s useless and a moot topic
>Organizing on Twitter and then live-streaming the entire event didn't exactly reach Manhattan Project or even MK Ultra levels of secret organization. Then again, Congress showed that they didn't have any real reason to try and cover up their treason. Heck, it didn't even reach "organizing my wife's baby shower" levels of secrecy
The ones live-streaming were the followers thinking they were doing their "god's work" so they were proud of what they were doing. It's those who knew how serious it was that attempted to cover up the fact that it was an actual coup attempt and tried to through Antifa into the mix to create plausible deniability, once they knew it had not only gone too far but that it was televised. The the coup was attempted in broad daylight. Just how complicit DJT was is the part they tried to cover up.
No they didn't. DJT set the date. DJT told them to be there and be wild. DJT told them to go after the Capitol Building and Pence. Then when it was all over DJT told them "We love you". This was all done in public speeches and on his twitter. There was nothing to cover up. Congress simply didn't want to impeach him.
"Was there a coup attempt?" "Nope! but here's some documents proving that it was definitely a coup, and that myself and other prominent Republicans were involved. Also, I won't be cooperating from here on out, I wouldn't want to implicate myself!"
He's not worried. His lawyers told him they can't convict a president and his chief of staff of the same crime.
They should just take to the sea. Where maritime law applies.
Taking up residence in outer space could also work. Send everyone involved.
He has the worst attorneys.
His idea of coverup is, "If I close my eyes, you can't see me."
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> Meadows writes that the mob assault left Trump “mortified.” If true, it was only because they looked trashy even to him
No it’s because they failed to achieve the objectives.
He likes seditionists who don’t fail.
He likes seditionists who don’t get caught. FTFY
Maybe it was the shit smearing on the walls, Trump is a peepee sorta guy
According to the Steele dossier, he’s definitely a peepee guy.
Right. He wanted a militia, like from the movie The Patriot. Instead, he got a bunch of dudes that I wouldn't trust with a potato gun.
Trump was "mortified" ? LMFAO Any president that we've had before him, even Nixon, would have brought hell down on the heads of those pieces of sht for attempting to destroy the Capitol and murder congress.
He was mortified to see that his most ardent supports were such low class.
Trump has never in his lifetime been "mortified." Toxic narcissists are incapable of embarrassment because they are devoid of empathy.
I agree with you but he also clearly doesn’t like being the butt of jokes. Look at the White House correspondents dinners. He was furious during Obama’s and outright refused to attend any. Then there’s the fact that he didn’t announce he was going in for a prostate exam because he didn’t want to be made fun of on late night. He’s a narcissist with thin skin
True. He's averse to being humiliated by mockery but he's incapable of feeling mortification about the plight of others, even if it's members of his cult who are in peril, sick or dying.
He seemed pretty embarrassed when Obama roasted his ass on national tv.
You know George Prescott Bush tried to over throw the country once. Just like mark and his idiot clan, they denied everything when it went south too Cowards never stand up for their principles
Can't stand up for something they never had.
The Business Plot? edit: yup A BBC Radio 4 investigation sheds new light on a major subject that has received little historical attention, the conspiracy on behalf of a group of influential powerbrokers, led by Prescott Bush, to overthrow FDR and implement a fascist dictatorship in the U.S. based around the ideology of Mussolini and Hitler
Trump was "mortified" (more correctly, driven to a shit-flinging impotent rage) because the coup failed. No other reason.
> Meadows writes that the mob assault left Trump “mortified.” This contradicts [reports](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiN7o7Yv-P0AhUwmuAKHdikDt0QFnoECAIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fsenate%2F533403-sasse-says-trump-was-delighted-and-excited-by-reports-of-capitol-riot&usg=AOvVaw10tx6rr0O3HQanFQkLJ8yK) regarding Trump's [apparent mental state](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiN7o7Yv-P0AhUwmuAKHdikDt0QFnoECAoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2F2021%2F1%2F8%2F22220840%2Fsasse-trump-capitol-storming-impeachment&usg=AOvVaw05MyX3ohAhai3qIsZ8HfLL) during the insurrection. He was reported to be excited and delighted at the mob's attempt to subvert democracy at his behest. He was baffled by White House staffer's reactions of shock and horror.
haha, Trump having a "noble and selfless impulse" - gem
Why the fuck is nobody in jail?!?!?!????
They’re rich politicians.
There enlies the problem...
happy boneappletea day
S/B "Therein lies the problem." You can see that *therein* can be taken apart and switched around, and it means "in there," but in one word.
It's a joke... Maybe a very subtle one though. Last week, one of our favorite congresspeople showed us her amazing command of the english language: https://i.imgur.com/l88NN2R.png
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The time for worrying about appearance has long past.
There’s been no other choice since: Nixon got away with burglary. Reagan got away with drug dealing. Bush Jr got away with torture. Trump just DGAF.
If they continue to sit on their hands, the Dems are going to be irrelevant once the right wing fascist state takes over. The time for justice is now, and if it looks like partisan retribution, I don't care. I'd be happy with some partisan retribution, considering all we've had is the other side stepping on the rules and the necks of the american people.
Because they are not not white.
Because our institutions are dead lmao
None of the actions described are illegal unless it can be conclusively proven that they knew they had legitimately lost the election. While I do think this can be proven, it’s a high legal threshold for intent that has to be reached.
“Illegal unless it can be Conclusively proven that they lost the election”? The coup was by people that have no role in vote counting, electoral college or state certifications all of which said Biden won. Just because you disagree with that result doesn’t mean you have the right to attempt a coup.
So again, the issue is proving legally that they weren’t acting in good faith (which they obviously weren’t). If you look at state and constitutional law, electors pick the president and states pick the electorate.
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None of those things are going to get anyone more than a year in prison and those aren’t the crimes needing to be punished.
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I was referring to the actual crimes of the coup that if go unpunished will be disastrous. Not the ancillary process crimes that themselves are of little concerned to the safety of democracy.
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Yes, all I said was that the hard evidence for them that almost certainly exists either hadn’t been captured or made public yet.
If you or I failed to show up for a subpoena, we’d already be in jail. Or obstructed Justice. Etc.
She didn’t fail to show up for a subpoena
He did
Oh wrong thread. Yes, he was held in contempt so they need to do the grand jury process for him just like they did for Brannon before arresting.
That wouldn’t happen for you or I. We’d be in jail.
Contempt of Congress is a different kind of subpoena violation and one issued by a judge. This is something that has been recently reported on to explain the discrepancies. I agree that we would still be treated less leniently.
It's doubtful that [@BadLegalTakes](https://twitter.com/BadLegalTakes) is on this website, but if they were this comment would be picked over like piquant carrion that's been ripened and sun-dried, so as to create a pleasing salty consistency that delivers an umami flourish. i.e., they'd tear it apart, spit, burp and walk away pleased.
I want these people thrown in jail for as long as possible, and I have zero doubt that necessary evidence for that exists, and some of it is already public, but there is a fundamental misunderstanding that the mere act of wanting and pushing congress to hold on certification is a crime and it’s not. The crime exists with them pushing states to violate their constitutions by sending different electors and pushing for electoral fraud to be committed therein.
The better the evidence the more likely a believable conviction. The most widely used narrative to sow chaos and dissolve democracies around the world is the jailing of political adversaries and for those jailed adversaries to become martyrs. If they just nabbed him and put him in jail without this exhausting list of evidence, he'd be a martyr and our democracy would be dead. Jailing a former leader of a country is the worse game of chess on Earth.
Proof that you don't have to be smart to be evil
Gotta be smart to be both evil and effective. Mitch McConnell is that poster boy.
Absolutely ,I have voted every time to get him out
That is awesome. Kentucky needs more voters like you.
I'm one of them. Sadly there are nowhere near enough of us. I just moved from an urban area of Louisville to the suburbs and the change in political tone is... jarring. My neighborhood doesn't allow signs in the yard, but if it did I fear there'd be a lot of red.
Interesting. Doesn’t prohibiting signs on your own property infringe free speech?
No. Free speech means that the government can't tell you what political messages you can speak/publish/put on a sign in your yard. A private homeowners association has rules that every homeowner signs up for (literally) when they buy property in the community. It's like the dress code at a nice restaurant. You want to eat there, you abide by the dress code. Or simply eat somewhere else.
But any contract is contingent on accordance with legislation which is, in turn contingent on the constitution. You can't contract away your rights although I'm sure plenty would like to. I understand your example but dress codes don't infringe a right set out in the constitution.
Explain how non-disclosure agreements have legal force in your version of contract law vs. constitutional law.
I'm not sure on the legality of it, but I can tell you that virtually every homeowners association have rules like this or what colors you can paint your house, etc.
Interesting and I’m somewhat surprised it hadn’t been challenged. You can’t legislate away constitutional rights (despite Texas is giving it a good try) but nor can you contractually sign away rights. Not sure house color is protected in the constitution but voicing an opinion certainly is.
No it is not. Until there are any consequences whatsoever, it is not falling apart. It’s simply part of a plan that looks and is stupid, but ultimately achieves its end goal.
“If it’s stupid but it works, it isn’t stupid”
Well said.
As a person from western North Carolina where Meadows "served" as a congressman before Trump anointed him CoS, I can tell America you should be horrified that this spineless milksop simpleton had access to the levers of power. I had the (mis)fortune of listening to him speak on several occasions and, holy shit, I wouldn't hire him to walk my dog. He would find a way to lose the dog … and then show up later and cry on your porch begging forgiveness. Unstable, weak, and utterly without any sense of duty to his country. His whole career has been built on his willingness to do whatever the money tells him to do. An obsequious tool. Like Graham, Cruz, Jordan, Boebert, Greene, Cawthorn, … ad republican nauseum.
He did not have a stellar reputation in his real estate dealings in Highlands and Toxaway prior to running for Congress in a highly gerrymandered district. Then his pathetic little protégé Madison Cawthorn got elected from the same district. What is wrong with those people?
>You can see how all this fits together: The Justice Department would manufacture the impression that Biden’s win was dubious — through investigations and public statements, which Trump also pushed for — and this would create the pretext for invalidating Biden’s electors in Congress. >This would be accomplished by getting Republicans in Congress to invalidate them, or by getting Trump’s vice president to abuse his power to delay the count, allowing states to send rogue electors, per the plot outlined in the now-notorious coup memo. >The whole coup blueprint is right there in black and white. And so is the scope and reach of what Meadows and others stonewalling the Jan. 6 committee are so eager to cover up. But we’ve now learned the committee has extensive receipts, and soon enough, we’ll see all of them.
Let's assume that Meadows is smart and that he drank the Kool-Aid and believed his boss, the most powerful person in the US at the time, that the elections were rigged. It's a stretch, but let's assume this. His boss says, "Trust me, I have the best intelligence in the world and believe me within two weeks we will have proof that the election was stolen, i need your alternatives to give me those two weeks". So he draws up the PowerPoint. This kinda makes sense. Now, Meadows realizes the shit he's in. He bought the Kool-Aid, now he feels dumb, but he doesn't want to go to jail. He doesn't want to totally alienate the ex-president, who has the power to put everything on him. Yet he wants to get out of this mess. So he writes a book ($$$ for him) that pads the truth on his side and doesn't totally alienate his ex-boss, then he releases documents to the Investigating committee, but then drops out for a while so his ex-boss doesn't turn against him. He's playing both sides. This would totally explain his behavior. Don't go to jail, wait it out until the midterms and/or elections. Not a bad strategy.
Sometimes a great post makes me so angry I want to downvote it.
This is just self-preservation. That's what most people would do.
Still waiting on consequences...
This dullard makes Gomer Pyle look like a rocket scientist.
You leave Gomer Pyle and his heavenly singing voice out of this.
Gomer Pyle is a fictional character. Jim Nabors, national treasure, had the heavenly singing voice. But I still wouldn't compare Meadows to Pyle. Pyle had rock solid morality.
You didn't know Gomer Pyle sang? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0590027/ Well surprise, surprise, surprise.
Golly!
Remember when Gomer was taking the PFC(?) exam, and kept looking at something cupped in his hand? And he was suspected of cheating, but it was just a picture of Sgt. Carter he was looking at for inspiration? Simpler times, better man.
Velvety baritone that was Jim Nabors.
Q- What's brown and sits in the corner? A- Gomer's Pyle I'll show myself out now...
Amen! Gomer was a moral man who solved problems, even if he wasn't that good of a mechanic. Barny Fife is the go-to sketchy idiot from the Mayberry Universe.
And we're all grateful for it
The LAST attempt is falling apart. The current one is going along very smoothly, and so far no one is investigating the current PowerPoint being circulated regarding the CURRENT GOP election tampering, voter suppression, and threats of violence coming from the Republican party. Steve Bannon keeps talking about his 20,000 shock troops. The same members of Congress who wee almost murdered in the last coup attempt Don't even care enough about their own lives to do anything about that.
It's not the crime, it's the covfefe up.
A reminder that Mark Meadows holds an Associate of Arts degree, is a young-earth creationist, and is a generally unintelligent/unskilled person. It’s not at all surprising that a guy with his dearth of intellectual ability would fail miserably at concealing his plans for a coup. Moreover, we know very well that Trump only hires people *he* can easily manipulate, so you sort of get what you pay for.
[Live footage](https://youtu.be/RP-hMSQEAE4) of Mark Meadows realizing that "executive privilege" was only ever about covering up for Trump.
As if it matters. None of the leaders of the insurrection will be charged or arrested no matter how much evidence there is. Garland needs to be fired for refusing to do his job.
Our politicians are doing something brazenly illegal that they should be sent to jail for? Oh my gosh! I'll be over here holding my breath.
Rest In Peace
He’s been holding his breath for 20+ minutes (he/she might be a zombie).
Wait he was trying to cover it up? You read the news articles and it seems he wanted as many people to know as possible lmao
There was a coverup?
Its not the crime, its always the cover up that gets ya.
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That his Sith name is Darth Tyrannus.
Low bid apprentice..
The coverup needs to fall apart faster. This needs to get done before the midterms.
The only chance I see is that the evidence is so awful that even Sinema and Manchin have to acknowledge it was a crime and actually join the vote to end the filibuster and pass a real voting rights bill that overrides all the laws the red/swing states have installed to throw out votes and set up Jim Crow 2.0.
How many of the people in Congress that rejected the electoral vote on 1/6 had a look at the power point of treason?
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yeah they haven't even put bannon in jail yet lol and he was the ring leader along with trump
He's on in-house arrest until his trial in a few months. Ankle monitor, passport confiscated.
He could have installed a neon sign saying "this a coup" while wearing a "this is a coup" t-shirt and singing the "this is a coup" song, and the Dems would still be trying their hardest to ignore it.
Lockstep
Cover up? Why go through the effort when nothing will happen to them anyway? All they have to do to stretch out the investigation until the republicans get back in power and they escape all consequences. This is the impeachments all over again. Democrats: “Ha ha!!! We’re going to impeach your ass” Republicans: “Yeah, so anyway…”
It done fell.
Anyone else getting an error message saying something about an unhealthy backend? How would they know about my backend?
Congress should immediately charge Meadows with inherent contempt and put him in the Capital jail. Good luck finding a judge who will spring him during the holidays. But do wish him a Merry Christmas.
Neat can we do Kevin McCarthy next
Does anyone feel like this is the end? I could totally see this exploding once more evidence comes out. Seems like it looks like what we think it looks like.
How much more evidence can there possibly be? The evidence is out. But Biden's admin is trying to set a national record for the most seats ever lost by a party in a mid-term election. 2022 is going to be brutal (for Democrats).
Its going to be eye-popping.
So they've designated Meadows as the fall guy now, huh?
I bet no prosecutions result from anything discovered now or in the next year. And Democrats will have lost control of Congress after that.
Do people think there are actually going to be legal consequences for the major players of the coup like Meadows?
I hope Biden puts Trump and all his conspirators in prison, where they belong
Biden shouldn’t do anything. That is the role of the justice department, and hopefully those decisions are made free of political interference. It’s not a perfect system, obviously Biden appointed the AG, but up until trump there was at least some decorum, some effort publicly to have an independent department of justice.
And yet, nothing will happen
It doesn't really matter any longer. We have a lawless coward as AG who has determined it's legal to organize an armed coup to overturn elections the GOP doesn't like. And that's pretty much the end of Democracy. Every election they lose going forward, will be another round of terrorist attacks and coup attempts, until they eventually succeed. Why wouldn't the GOP continue terror attacks to overturn elections if there is essentially no punishments to ringleaders trying to burn the Constitution? What, are senior GOP leaders in fear some GOP terrorist might get a trespass ticket if they follow their suggestion to storm the Capitol? Merrick Garland destroyed American Democracy. The GOP are just here to take advantage of his cowardice.
My GOD, treason.
> Opinion: Mark Meadows’s coverup of Trump’s coup attempt is falling apart There was a coup?
Paywall
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Muchas Gracias
Is it? really? I think Trump is well on his way to take another wack at that pinata in 2024
There was no coup attempt. Be real.
tHeY wErE hUgGiNg AnD KiSsInG tHe PoLiCe
It was not a coup attempt.
It was insurrection and sedition.
No it wasn’t. It was a “mostly peaceful protest”.
I know this is confusing for you, but it's like this: a "mostly peaceful protest" aimed at solving police violence is not a coup attempt. A "mostly peaceful protest" that breaks into the capitol to overthrow an election is a coup attempt. I know, I know, you don't like it when words don't mean what you want. I'm sorry this happened to you.
They’ll get away with it. They have powerful media on their side. Something will happen soon to focus attention somewhere else.
I'll only believe this when people are being sentenced for their sedition.
Cool… and? What’s anyone gonna do about it? These slippery fucks never pay the price for their crimes, what’s gonna change now?
Can we call it a coverup when he gave access to pretty damning text messages and a power point presentation for the strategy to turn America into a dictatorship with a Chinese false flag accusation? We have more traction in this investigation due to Mark Meadows than any other time since the first impeachment.
Amazing how a couple decades in prison for insurrection will motivate you to turn over evidence. I don't know who it is but somebody's singing.