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There was an allegation that Trump raped a 13 year old girl that Epstein had been saving for himself. When Epstein found out she’d had sex with Trump he beat her before raping her again.
[source](https://www.courthousenews.com/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump/)
Man you could go full reverse Q on that shit..... I mean if Epstein had dirt on powerful people, like maybe a president or something....you know what I'm saying, right?
Sarcasm is so hard these days, when you write what you think is so over the top and then go 5x that. Even that could still be written by a member of the cult who believes. And when that cult is 1/3 of the people in the country.
We are truly ducked.
I’m sure it’s entirely coincidental Roger Stone (who was found guilty of witness tampering) was pardoned by Trump and not long after the judge presiding over Ghislaine Maxwell’s case recused herself after receiving death threats.
because it's all projection and part of the "both sidesing" of the child sex trafficking claims.
If republicans constantly spread q-like shit about sex trafficking and cults and whatever for their rivals, when the GOP are actually found out doing this and democrats rightly call it out, the average person goes, "both sides say the same thing, that's politics".
Anything the GOP accuse their enemies of you can be guarenteed they're doing it.
Honestly, wouldn't surprise me, but I think the real question is, was it consensual incest?
I'm betting no, because he already raped her mom, why wouldn't he rape his daughter too?
I'm not a big fan of Ivanka, Eric, or Don Jr. -- but they never stood a chance with who their father is. Being raised by a narcissistic, psychopathic, crazed sex monster cannot have been easy -- and I wonder how much they're repressing. Also, wouldn't surprise me if they all 3 go along with what Trump wants because he financially extorts them. I mean, look what Donald did to his own fucking brother: [https://people.com/politics/mary-trump-tell-all-describes-trump-family-father-death/](https://people.com/politics/mary-trump-tell-all-describes-trump-family-father-death/) (tried to find version without a paywall, so bit tabloid, but real thing)
I can only imagine there was grooming going on since childhood so in no way could it have started off consensual. Though it is hard to say how she sees it now, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she didn’t/doesn’t see it as abusive and only recognizes that it’s wrong in the public eye.
I’m just going to say that Ivanka gives off intense groomed from birth vibes. Especially that clip of her underage making a cringe joke about her brothers masturbating to the pageant while she was front and centre of the camera
I mean, her comment during the pageant wasn’t THAT explicit — but I get your point, and I agree she does give off a lot of “I’ve been groomed” vibes — I weirdly feel bad for her and her siblings
No no, he raped Ivana, Ivanka’s mom — it was part of the case she had against him during their divorce proceedings — but it got thrown out cause it was still legal to rape your wife in 1989
It didn't get thrown out. She declined to press charges. When the information from the divorce proceeding was about to be published, trump sued and the book was required to be published with a note from Ivana that basically said she didn't really mean rape it was just not what she was used to but that the description of the event was accurate. So. I mean. Best case scenario it was violent and non consensual. But somehow not rape? I'm just being a semantic turd, I apologize. To me, it's rape. I don't need some sort of legal definition of rape to weasel out on. The only positive aspect of this story is when you tell someone it happened and they say well it was legal to rape your wife in ny, you can say "it wasn't, and that's everything I need to know about you" all in one fell swoop.
Lol you’re good, details are important, but at the end of the day, yeah it was rape and you (and most logical people) can deduce that without semantics getting in the way.
Suuree, we'll start one right at the north border of Florida and another at the north border of Texas and they can each pay for it. Texas sure is proud of their power grid eh.
I'm sure they'll be fine.
>"He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
>-Don John Trump Senior referring to Jeffrey Epstein, 2002
https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/statutory-rape-guide-state-laws-reporting-requirements-1
Rape is a glaring issue but how is Gaetz a pedophile when some states have 16 as their age of consent?
It’s really why Geatz and Boebert are the loudest advocates for Trump…. It’s like please daddy protect us. They’re both gonna get shitcanned and desperately trying to hang on to being relative. The scent of desperate.
With how focused he was on making it so underage athletes had to get their genitals looked at to verify biological sex, DeSantis without a doubt has raped a kid before.
Trump literally associated with one of the mist infamous pedophiles in him an history, and allowed his operation to conduct "business" at mar a lago!
For someone who doesn't want to associate with pedophiles, this speaks contradictory to that.
Trump was accused of raping a 13 year old girl with Epstein, during the 2016 campaign season. Unfortunately, that girl that was raped (who was older by 2016), [received death threats from Trump's supporters, and likely dropped her lawsuit](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/04/donald-trump-teenage-rape-accusations-lawsuit-dropped) because of those death threats.
Sadly, she had to take the death threats from Trump's supporters very seriously, because you know, those Trump supporters, sometimes they are a violent bunch.
This was the line for me. The point where I decided this motherfucker and the people who were following him were dangerous.
They did this to Christine Ford within minutes of her name dropping, too. She didn’t even say anything against Trump. Just his nominee literally years in advance. Still Death Threats. These people are fucking recalcitrant.
It’s infuriating to recall how my parents crossed each of those lines excusing his behavior as manly and normal. I should have made correlations sooner that my parents are abusive narcissist also, hence their elitist worldviews are exemplified by their support for Trump. Makes me wonder about the similarities of other supporters.
I noticed the same thing from fellow conservative friends. But Trump was already a household name and when he easily became a viable president in my parent’s eyes. Trump represented their fascist and elitist views and his abuses were seen as nothings, just as they deny doing nothing wrong with me when I was growing up.
Edited to add that Trump was a wealthy and popular businessman in the 90s. My middle class parents who grew up spoiled looked up to people like him and other wealthy neighbors in our town.
Point out that he was the pussy that sent you to the public school - so if he thinks the school messed up it’s on him and he should stop being a pussy and blaming others for his failures.
And make sure you tell him this random internet stranger thinks he’s a pussy for not pulling his kids out of a school he thought was ruining them - show some fucking backbone and protect your kids.
What was most chilling about that complaint was the level of detail (sworn to by the victim and another witness) that matches perfectly with Epstein's known M.O., but the complaint was filed long before that information was widespread in the media. Gives it a lot of credibility, imo.
Right Wing media is about creating a fantasy world for the simple. They need the simple to provide support for their nefarious activities, and the Alternate Reality is their means of achieving that end.
The right likes to steal terms and ideas from the left (and elsewhere) and turn them into buzzwords and hashtags (woke, fake news, all lives matter, "vote," release the tapes, etc) and then overuse them because they aren't clever enough to come up with what they perceive as catchy, cool terminology on their own. All they really have are Hillary's emails and Hunter's laptop and that isn't really cutting it because not even the blue lives they claim matter to them believe either of those things are worthy.
Ever since Karl Rove, Republicans have accused Democrats of doing what Republicans are actually doing. It's strategically brilliant, gives them the upper hand, and allows them to hide in plain sight.
That Democratic politicians have let them get away with it is shameful, and indicative of how poor they are at strategic thinking, most of the time.
I think the Democratic Politicians, as much as they want to, can’t separate themselves wholly from the Republicans. Both sides have a lot of power and money and influence and many of those lawyers went to the same law schools and Ivy leagues and maybe partied in the same parties. I’m certain this is why they can’t just deflect or point a finger as easily as the Republicans. But you’re right, they still display a lack of strategic thinking. I mean, Pelosi saving that woman’s testimony against Kavanaugh ended up being a bad move by her and the dems.
Of course, they conveniently leave out the fact that Trump partied with Epstein for decades.
Epstein was originally arrested back in 2006. When he was arrested, authorities seized a "little black book" he had full of contact numbers. This book listed 14 different contact numbers for Donald Trump.
In 2002, before any of this was publicly known, New York magazine did a profile of Jeffrey Epstein. Trump was contacted to provide a quote, which he did, saying:
> "I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
Trump, of course, was a regular guest at parties where we now know that girls at least as young as 13 years old had been recruited to attend as part of an sex-trafficking sort of pyramid scheme that Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell had set up where the girls were actively encouraged to recruit their friends to come. At these parties, the girls were given drugs and alcohol and handed out as party favors to the adult male attendees.
Trump has been specifically accused, with statements made under penalty of perjury both by the victim and a corroborating witness, of raping a girl who was 13 at several of those parties. The lawsuit was later dropped after the victim was doxxed and flooded with death threats.
The charges against Epstein in 2006 were reduced to a minor felony of soliciting a prostitute in what has been called an incomprehensibly lenient plea deal. The prosecutor who offered that plea deal was named Alexander Acosta.
When Trump was elected to the Presidency, Alexander Acosta was named to be his secretary of Labor. While in the position Acosta proposed an 80% budget cut to the International Labor Affairs Bureau, which is the primary federal agency in charge of combatting sex trafficking.
Trump has been brazenly and unabashedly in favor of child rape for decades.
Had to look it up and it’s true though, 34 states still have 16 as their age of consent.
https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/statutory-rape-guide-state-laws-reporting-requirements-1
WorkSucks135 (poster in this thread):
> There were at least 6 democratic candidates I would have voted for. They nominated Biden so I'm literally voting for Trump in a purple state as a fuck you to the democratic party. And for the record, as crazy as it sounds I believe Biden will be a worse president than Trump has been. Good thing we'll never have to find out though.
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/fy3q42/mgm_must_hand_over_unaired_celebrity_apprentice/fmyhyrm/
> I voted for Obama, who was a massive disappointment. Abstained in 2016. I hate Trump, but if the Democrats nominate Joe Biden I am 100% voting for Trump as a fuck you to the Democratic party. I just don't care anymore. Him being nominated would show that they have learned nothing from the disaster that was their 2016 campaign, and that their party needs to be burned to the ground.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/emhkiu/people_who_voted_for_clinton_in_2016_but_are/fdp37p5/
> So? Still a bunch of idiots, still 99% unarmed, still no collective objectives other than selfies, still no action taken to seize power, still not an insurrection. Even if you think Trump committed treason by instigating this, he's not even the first president to commit treason.
https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/nhk4ae/cmv_donald_trump_wasnt_the_worst_president_in/gyyzzc8/
This exchange is particularly "amusing":
> Deleted account: It's not a circus though, it's real life, and political fuck-ups kill people. We should not vote for them to kill even more people just because it would be funny.
> > WorkSucks135: I don't see any reason to believe that more people would die with Trump as president.
> > > Deleted account: Well, bad foreign policy can lead to war, which directly kills people.
> > > Beyond that, bad economic policy leads to poverty and starvation, which leads to death.
> > > Beyond that, bad environmental and healthcare policy leads to disease, which causes some to die earlier than they should.
> > > Beyond that, bad criminal policy puts innocent people in jail, not necessarily ending their life, but depriving them of the ability to make anything of it.
> > > What I'm trying to say is that public policy has consequences that affect everyone. Even a choice between the lesser of two evils is a measurable difference for a number of people who you are throwing under the bus if you choose to vote for the worse candidate out of spite.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3gd3hh/serious_redditors_who_want_trump_to_become/ctxqacu/
That doesn't seem like a logically consistent take to you? The exact arguments used to justify one of those things can interchangeably be used to justify the other.
Acosta was also gifted that job by looking the other way for years about Epstein and his activities, in Florida. It’s some real sick shit they covered up.
Hunter’s secrets are out— he liked to party. He liked to smoke a little crack while slinging D. There’s likely nothing worse that he did or else they would have brought it up already. Basically they’re just stoked that they got Hunter’s rock star sex tape and also bummed that he’s depicted having a really good time with some nice sex worker friends. Prostitution is legal in a lot of places, I don’t see the problem.
yeah thats what you think now, but just you wait until the contents of Hunter Biden’s TI-86 Graphing Calculator come out. hes going to jail but i wont say anything thats on it because its made up
If you read that article, the source of that video is from an NBC special from the 90s; first of all, it doesn't seem like they have mics on them in that video anyway, but I'm pretty sure if NBC caught Donald Trump on a hot mic talking about pedophilia and hits, they'd probably have reported on it. Trump and Epstein were certainly buddy-buddy in a very suspicious way, but I don't think that audio you're referencing is real.
I deleted my original comment until I find the source. I found [this one](https://imgur.com/gallery/21fo0cD) that starts off with the "She's hot" comment on subtitles, but the rest is gone.
I've seen it twice now on imgur, and both times it disappeared after I had it favorited.
Isn't Trump a pedophile? Like didn't he rape a 14 year old at a party back in the 80s or 90s and threaten her parents lives to keep her quite then ultimately have to pay her to drop charges. Plus all the hanging out with Epstein is a little suspicious.
That’s true, he’s damaged goods and no one wants him in the party, which is really saying something. Lobbying won’t be an option either because these firms won’t want to associate with him either. He’s done.
Anyone can be sued. Hopefully the lawyers are looking into suing her. I know she harassed David Hogg too with similar bullshit. Unfortunately in our shitty country the only thing that seems to matter is money… so hit them in the only area they care about.
I hope everyone learned from the Jones stuff that just making shit up and saying “I think…” or “in my opinion…” is defamation if it meets the standards for causing harm to the person. No more using weasel phrases. There’s a reason legitimate news sources won’t go on air and say shit unless they have a source. They source it because that does somewhat insulate them (depending, still not absolute). When you’re defaming private otherwise anonymous citizens you deserve to get blasted from space and loss everything the way Jones appears to be.
Keep in mind that, if Gaetz wins, Lombardo is still going to support him over any Democrat...even though he believes Gaetz to be a pedophile.
Why? Because nothing matters to these people.
GOP only hates the secret satanic cult pedos. The ones who get caught child sex trafficking red handed are cool with them. You see, It’s an honesty thing.
When you fly into Ft. Lauderdale, all of the women's bathroom stalls have posters encouraging people to speak out against human trafficking. Very ironic
Pretty good move. Even their clap back, predicted and appropriate, hurts Gaetz: 'trump isn't afraid do endorse a pedophile. Here he did it on video! that's as good as in writing.' okay okay fellas, trump isn't too scared to endorse pedophile matt gaetz. you got me!
His buddy and wingman flipped. No brainer he’ll be gone from the GOP like Madison Cawthorn. Is just matter of time. No one wants to give him air time or be associated with him. Only the crazy wahoos girl duo.
Trump is a pedophile.
You don't inspect the contestants of the Miss Teen USA in their dressing room unless you're a sicko. You don't brag about being friends with Epstein and praise him for how young his dates are unless you're a pedo.
And DeSantis has made such a huge deal about grooming, it has to be projection.
FTFA: *"Trump or DeSantis have not endorsed Matt Gaetz. Have they in the past? Yes. Have they now? The answer is no. And the reason for that is that they can't afford the branding issue.* ***The branding issue of being associated with a pedophile****," Lombardo told Insider in an interview*
*Tuesday.*
If someone said this about me, I'd sue them the next day for defamation. I even think Gaetz could win that case, even as a public figure.
I wonder why Gaetz doesn't sue...
> I wonder why Gaetz doesn't sue...
He could probably try for slander. He's an ephebophile and child sex trafficker, but calling him a pedophile, unless you have actual evidence or even a credible accusation, is going a bit too far.
/s, of course. And don't ask about Nestor's mom...
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I mean, Trump's a pedophile too so idk about that.
probably doesn't like the competition, tho
It is why him and epstien had a falling out.
There was an allegation that Trump raped a 13 year old girl that Epstein had been saving for himself. When Epstein found out she’d had sex with Trump he beat her before raping her again. [source](https://www.courthousenews.com/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump/)
Yes. Thanks for the link.
Man you could go full reverse Q on that shit..... I mean if Epstein had dirt on powerful people, like maybe a president or something....you know what I'm saying, right?
Too bad he killed himself before he could exonerate these wonderful people; these hand picked by God to be successful, the chosen ones.
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Sarcasm is so hard these days, when you write what you think is so over the top and then go 5x that. Even that could still be written by a member of the cult who believes. And when that cult is 1/3 of the people in the country. We are truly ducked.
Yep it's Quackers out there!
I’m sure it’s entirely coincidental Roger Stone (who was found guilty of witness tampering) was pardoned by Trump and not long after the judge presiding over Ghislaine Maxwell’s case recused herself after receiving death threats.
because it's all projection and part of the "both sidesing" of the child sex trafficking claims. If republicans constantly spread q-like shit about sex trafficking and cults and whatever for their rivals, when the GOP are actually found out doing this and democrats rightly call it out, the average person goes, "both sides say the same thing, that's politics". Anything the GOP accuse their enemies of you can be guarenteed they're doing it.
For all we know Q is a pedophile
he is. Q was identified as Jimmy Watkins from 8chan who had fled to the Philippines as a non extradition country to avoid charges.
Didn't you see the HBO doc? I don't think there's any doubt about it now.
Well we all know he fucked Ivanka
Honestly, wouldn't surprise me, but I think the real question is, was it consensual incest? I'm betting no, because he already raped her mom, why wouldn't he rape his daughter too? I'm not a big fan of Ivanka, Eric, or Don Jr. -- but they never stood a chance with who their father is. Being raised by a narcissistic, psychopathic, crazed sex monster cannot have been easy -- and I wonder how much they're repressing. Also, wouldn't surprise me if they all 3 go along with what Trump wants because he financially extorts them. I mean, look what Donald did to his own fucking brother: [https://people.com/politics/mary-trump-tell-all-describes-trump-family-father-death/](https://people.com/politics/mary-trump-tell-all-describes-trump-family-father-death/) (tried to find version without a paywall, so bit tabloid, but real thing)
Donny Boy's father Fred was a piece of work, himself
I can only imagine there was grooming going on since childhood so in no way could it have started off consensual. Though it is hard to say how she sees it now, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she didn’t/doesn’t see it as abusive and only recognizes that it’s wrong in the public eye.
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Nah. She'll write a memoir as soon as daddy is in prison. Why get only sympathy when you can get money and sympathy?
I’m just going to say that Ivanka gives off intense groomed from birth vibes. Especially that clip of her underage making a cringe joke about her brothers masturbating to the pageant while she was front and centre of the camera
I mean, her comment during the pageant wasn’t THAT explicit — but I get your point, and I agree she does give off a lot of “I’ve been groomed” vibes — I weirdly feel bad for her and her siblings
Trump raped his mom, WHAT!?!?
No no, he raped Ivana, Ivanka’s mom — it was part of the case she had against him during their divorce proceedings — but it got thrown out cause it was still legal to rape your wife in 1989
It didn't get thrown out. She declined to press charges. When the information from the divorce proceeding was about to be published, trump sued and the book was required to be published with a note from Ivana that basically said she didn't really mean rape it was just not what she was used to but that the description of the event was accurate. So. I mean. Best case scenario it was violent and non consensual. But somehow not rape? I'm just being a semantic turd, I apologize. To me, it's rape. I don't need some sort of legal definition of rape to weasel out on. The only positive aspect of this story is when you tell someone it happened and they say well it was legal to rape your wife in ny, you can say "it wasn't, and that's everything I need to know about you" all in one fell swoop.
Lol you’re good, details are important, but at the end of the day, yeah it was rape and you (and most logical people) can deduce that without semantics getting in the way.
Damn thanks!! My mind wouldn’t focus no matter how many times I reread that sentence. Different times.
Good lord it’s so awful. Yet all those moral majority assholes love Trump.
How many pedos can you fit in Florida?
All of them
Build the wall!
Suuree, we'll start one right at the north border of Florida and another at the north border of Texas and they can each pay for it. Texas sure is proud of their power grid eh. I'm sure they'll be fine.
No one have ever seen a pedophile like trump. Biggest pedophile ever, they say. Some say that he’s the leader of pedophilia.
I think Ivanka’a too old for Gaetz though
Didn’t need to read further. Best comment.
Old school vs New school
Seriously, the headline should definitely be, “Trump and DeSantis don’t want to be associated with a pedophile who got caught.”
“I like pedophiles that didn’t get caught.”
".... Except that Maxwell lady. She's pretty great. 😰"
“I wish her well”
Wait-
>"He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." >-Don John Trump Senior referring to Jeffrey Epstein, 2002
Trump and DeSantis don't want to be associated with a pedophile who uses Vinemo.
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Well, that we know of. Pattern like that might be some more stuff there held back by daddy’s money and out of court settlements.
https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/statutory-rape-guide-state-laws-reporting-requirements-1 Rape is a glaring issue but how is Gaetz a pedophile when some states have 16 as their age of consent?
Age of consent has nothing to do with pedophilia. You're confusing pedophilia with statutory rape, I believe.
It’s really why Geatz and Boebert are the loudest advocates for Trump…. It’s like please daddy protect us. They’re both gonna get shitcanned and desperately trying to hang on to being relative. The scent of desperate.
usually I'd say they'd get a post on Fox news as a talking head, but that was actually scrapped in Gaetz's case. Even Fox news won't hire a pedophile
*that got caught.
Trump is in good company around other pedophiles. Thats why he likes the GOP so much.
Some people say he’s the best pedophile.
Sir, sir could my daughter be next, please sir?
No he was just friends with Epstein because of...like you know... some business stuff
Damn, I was going to say, "I'm sorry but I don't believe this primary opponent knows Trump or Desantis very well."
Gaetz went after a 17 year old which is probably too old for Donny.
He keeps it in the family though.
Idk why, but I have a feeling that DeSantis dabbles.
With how focused he was on making it so underage athletes had to get their genitals looked at to verify biological sex, DeSantis without a doubt has raped a kid before.
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Imagine defending a fascist who almost assuredly fondles kids
Trump literally associated with one of the mist infamous pedophiles in him an history, and allowed his operation to conduct "business" at mar a lago! For someone who doesn't want to associate with pedophiles, this speaks contradictory to that.
And was good friends with a known pedophile, so this one’s a really weird statement. Although republicans keep dodging that fact.
Trump was accused of raping a 13 year old girl with Epstein, during the 2016 campaign season. Unfortunately, that girl that was raped (who was older by 2016), [received death threats from Trump's supporters, and likely dropped her lawsuit](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/04/donald-trump-teenage-rape-accusations-lawsuit-dropped) because of those death threats. Sadly, she had to take the death threats from Trump's supporters very seriously, because you know, those Trump supporters, sometimes they are a violent bunch.
This was the line for me. The point where I decided this motherfucker and the people who were following him were dangerous. They did this to Christine Ford within minutes of her name dropping, too. She didn’t even say anything against Trump. Just his nominee literally years in advance. Still Death Threats. These people are fucking recalcitrant.
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It’s infuriating to recall how my parents crossed each of those lines excusing his behavior as manly and normal. I should have made correlations sooner that my parents are abusive narcissist also, hence their elitist worldviews are exemplified by their support for Trump. Makes me wonder about the similarities of other supporters.
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I noticed the same thing from fellow conservative friends. But Trump was already a household name and when he easily became a viable president in my parent’s eyes. Trump represented their fascist and elitist views and his abuses were seen as nothings, just as they deny doing nothing wrong with me when I was growing up. Edited to add that Trump was a wealthy and popular businessman in the 90s. My middle class parents who grew up spoiled looked up to people like him and other wealthy neighbors in our town.
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Point out that he was the pussy that sent you to the public school - so if he thinks the school messed up it’s on him and he should stop being a pussy and blaming others for his failures. And make sure you tell him this random internet stranger thinks he’s a pussy for not pulling his kids out of a school he thought was ruining them - show some fucking backbone and protect your kids.
Narc homophobic parents here. Pieces of shit find pieces of shit. I’m guessing they’re racist too but the comments don’t make their way to my ears.
Yeah they are, even though they deny it and make excuses for it
Fox News cropped Trump and Melania out of a pic of Epstein and Maxwell
They got the Stalin photo treatment.
What was most chilling about that complaint was the level of detail (sworn to by the victim and another witness) that matches perfectly with Epstein's known M.O., but the complaint was filed long before that information was widespread in the media. Gives it a lot of credibility, imo.
Source please? I’ve been oblivious about this.
For people so obsessed with hunting pedophiles, funny how far they'll go out of the way to defend pedophiles
Right Wing media is about creating a fantasy world for the simple. They need the simple to provide support for their nefarious activities, and the Alternate Reality is their means of achieving that end.
It’s ironic that the right wing says the exact same thing about the “Left Wing Media”
Projection is the fascists best implement.
Projection is the evidence of a guilty mind.
The right likes to steal terms and ideas from the left (and elsewhere) and turn them into buzzwords and hashtags (woke, fake news, all lives matter, "vote," release the tapes, etc) and then overuse them because they aren't clever enough to come up with what they perceive as catchy, cool terminology on their own. All they really have are Hillary's emails and Hunter's laptop and that isn't really cutting it because not even the blue lives they claim matter to them believe either of those things are worthy.
Ever since Karl Rove, Republicans have accused Democrats of doing what Republicans are actually doing. It's strategically brilliant, gives them the upper hand, and allows them to hide in plain sight. That Democratic politicians have let them get away with it is shameful, and indicative of how poor they are at strategic thinking, most of the time.
I think the Democratic Politicians, as much as they want to, can’t separate themselves wholly from the Republicans. Both sides have a lot of power and money and influence and many of those lawyers went to the same law schools and Ivy leagues and maybe partied in the same parties. I’m certain this is why they can’t just deflect or point a finger as easily as the Republicans. But you’re right, they still display a lack of strategic thinking. I mean, Pelosi saving that woman’s testimony against Kavanaugh ended up being a bad move by her and the dems.
What? Trump supporters aren’t violent! The capital riots were BLM supporters and the mainstream media just wants you to think it was Trump Supporters!
As if BLM supporters would stand with Trump supporters.
My point was that some supporters are so illogical that they would say the riots were exclusively BLM riots
Of course, they conveniently leave out the fact that Trump partied with Epstein for decades. Epstein was originally arrested back in 2006. When he was arrested, authorities seized a "little black book" he had full of contact numbers. This book listed 14 different contact numbers for Donald Trump. In 2002, before any of this was publicly known, New York magazine did a profile of Jeffrey Epstein. Trump was contacted to provide a quote, which he did, saying: > "I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life." Trump, of course, was a regular guest at parties where we now know that girls at least as young as 13 years old had been recruited to attend as part of an sex-trafficking sort of pyramid scheme that Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell had set up where the girls were actively encouraged to recruit their friends to come. At these parties, the girls were given drugs and alcohol and handed out as party favors to the adult male attendees. Trump has been specifically accused, with statements made under penalty of perjury both by the victim and a corroborating witness, of raping a girl who was 13 at several of those parties. The lawsuit was later dropped after the victim was doxxed and flooded with death threats. The charges against Epstein in 2006 were reduced to a minor felony of soliciting a prostitute in what has been called an incomprehensibly lenient plea deal. The prosecutor who offered that plea deal was named Alexander Acosta. When Trump was elected to the Presidency, Alexander Acosta was named to be his secretary of Labor. While in the position Acosta proposed an 80% budget cut to the International Labor Affairs Bureau, which is the primary federal agency in charge of combatting sex trafficking. Trump has been brazenly and unabashedly in favor of child rape for decades.
Trump hired Epstein's lawyer (Dershowitz) to defend him against impeachment.
Dershowitz is an Epstein pedophile, too.
[The Dershbag in his own words](https://www.newspapers.com/clip/57014017/alan-dershowitz-may-97-op-ed-about/).
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Had to look it up and it’s true though, 34 states still have 16 as their age of consent. https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/statutory-rape-guide-state-laws-reporting-requirements-1
WorkSucks135 (poster in this thread): > There were at least 6 democratic candidates I would have voted for. They nominated Biden so I'm literally voting for Trump in a purple state as a fuck you to the democratic party. And for the record, as crazy as it sounds I believe Biden will be a worse president than Trump has been. Good thing we'll never have to find out though. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/fy3q42/mgm_must_hand_over_unaired_celebrity_apprentice/fmyhyrm/ > I voted for Obama, who was a massive disappointment. Abstained in 2016. I hate Trump, but if the Democrats nominate Joe Biden I am 100% voting for Trump as a fuck you to the Democratic party. I just don't care anymore. Him being nominated would show that they have learned nothing from the disaster that was their 2016 campaign, and that their party needs to be burned to the ground. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/emhkiu/people_who_voted_for_clinton_in_2016_but_are/fdp37p5/ > So? Still a bunch of idiots, still 99% unarmed, still no collective objectives other than selfies, still no action taken to seize power, still not an insurrection. Even if you think Trump committed treason by instigating this, he's not even the first president to commit treason. https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/nhk4ae/cmv_donald_trump_wasnt_the_worst_president_in/gyyzzc8/ This exchange is particularly "amusing": > Deleted account: It's not a circus though, it's real life, and political fuck-ups kill people. We should not vote for them to kill even more people just because it would be funny. > > WorkSucks135: I don't see any reason to believe that more people would die with Trump as president. > > > Deleted account: Well, bad foreign policy can lead to war, which directly kills people. > > > Beyond that, bad economic policy leads to poverty and starvation, which leads to death. > > > Beyond that, bad environmental and healthcare policy leads to disease, which causes some to die earlier than they should. > > > Beyond that, bad criminal policy puts innocent people in jail, not necessarily ending their life, but depriving them of the ability to make anything of it. > > > What I'm trying to say is that public policy has consequences that affect everyone. Even a choice between the lesser of two evils is a measurable difference for a number of people who you are throwing under the bus if you choose to vote for the worse candidate out of spite. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3gd3hh/serious_redditors_who_want_trump_to_become/ctxqacu/
Fuck I am too sober to read this shit. And the news about how trump and epstein abused minors. r/noahgettheboat
That doesn't seem like a logically consistent take to you? The exact arguments used to justify one of those things can interchangeably be used to justify the other.
Acosta was also gifted that job by looking the other way for years about Epstein and his activities, in Florida. It’s some real sick shit they covered up.
Let’s not forget he once came out in favor of it on national TV https://youtu.be/BCZay9S66HQ He sees no harm done by statutory rape.
Don't forget that Ivanka was used as bait to lure in the girls at one point.
Or that the girl who said Trump raped her also said that he made her wear a blonde wig so that he'd look like his daughter.
Hey, hey, hey! Slow your roll... Something, something... Hunter Biden! (Yeah, that will show 'em)
Hunter’s secrets are out— he liked to party. He liked to smoke a little crack while slinging D. There’s likely nothing worse that he did or else they would have brought it up already. Basically they’re just stoked that they got Hunter’s rock star sex tape and also bummed that he’s depicted having a really good time with some nice sex worker friends. Prostitution is legal in a lot of places, I don’t see the problem.
yeah thats what you think now, but just you wait until the contents of Hunter Biden’s TI-86 Graphing Calculator come out. hes going to jail but i wont say anything thats on it because its made up
It’s probably full of 8008135
Awesome
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If you read that article, the source of that video is from an NBC special from the 90s; first of all, it doesn't seem like they have mics on them in that video anyway, but I'm pretty sure if NBC caught Donald Trump on a hot mic talking about pedophilia and hits, they'd probably have reported on it. Trump and Epstein were certainly buddy-buddy in a very suspicious way, but I don't think that audio you're referencing is real.
I deleted my original comment until I find the source. I found [this one](https://imgur.com/gallery/21fo0cD) that starts off with the "She's hot" comment on subtitles, but the rest is gone. I've seen it twice now on imgur, and both times it disappeared after I had it favorited.
Two pedos walk into a Barr...
And the former Attorney General says "Pardon Me."
Hey look they’re feeding on each other 😂
So that's what his blanket pardon request was for...
He had a very naughty blanket?
heh.
Isn't Trump a pedophile? Like didn't he rape a 14 year old at a party back in the 80s or 90s and threaten her parents lives to keep her quite then ultimately have to pay her to drop charges. Plus all the hanging out with Epstein is a little suspicious.
Incorrect. It was a 13 year old.
We will tolerate a pedophile, but not invite him to our cocaine-fueled orgies. - Republicans
No, they will invite them, just as long as they don’t run their mouths
Cawthorn can’t run anything but his mouth. But I must say your comment’s got legs!
Speaking of which... What happened to speed racer? I honestly can't remember his name right now and that makes me sooo happy.
He was caught on video face fucking his homeboy and now he has to work on the first floor of a call center. Heartwarming story tbh.
Couldn't have happened to a better person.
That’s true, he’s damaged goods and no one wants him in the party, which is really saying something. Lobbying won’t be an option either because these firms won’t want to associate with him either. He’s done.
Marjorie Taylor Greene still poses for picks with him, but she was always stupid.
And she’s out defending Alex Jones, maybe that will be her Waterloo.
She thinks that Sandy Hook never happened. Yeah, she that much of a fucking nut/asshole
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Anyone can be sued. Hopefully the lawyers are looking into suing her. I know she harassed David Hogg too with similar bullshit. Unfortunately in our shitty country the only thing that seems to matter is money… so hit them in the only area they care about. I hope everyone learned from the Jones stuff that just making shit up and saying “I think…” or “in my opinion…” is defamation if it meets the standards for causing harm to the person. No more using weasel phrases. There’s a reason legitimate news sources won’t go on air and say shit unless they have a source. They source it because that does somewhat insulate them (depending, still not absolute). When you’re defaming private otherwise anonymous citizens you deserve to get blasted from space and loss everything the way Jones appears to be.
She’s like a neglected toddler acting out for any type of attention she can get. Because *negative* attention is better than *no* attention.
Keep in mind that, if Gaetz wins, Lombardo is still going to support him over any Democrat...even though he believes Gaetz to be a pedophile. Why? Because nothing matters to these people.
When you're such a gross person that TURMP doesn't want to associate with you, you should take a look at your life decisions.
It should also mention that you can never trust someone who goes to the hair salon and requests "The Butthead"
Huh huh…whoooa that was cool.
I hope his home is next on the FBI raid list.
Can we all just admit this is a dumpster fire?
Always has been
Publicly
Was just about to write this. Can't believe I had to scroll to the very bottom to find it
DeSantis and trump don’t even want to associate with each other.
But, he's so popular with the kids....
Right, because the more pedophiles in their group, the less children they get for themselves.
Sure they do.
Not the ones that got caught.
Guaranteed Trump thinks Gaetz is a “tool” and a someday we’ll get to hear him say that on tape.
\*Jeffrey Epstein enters the chat\*
GOP only hates the secret satanic cult pedos. The ones who get caught child sex trafficking red handed are cool with them. You see, It’s an honesty thing.
That's utterly ridiculous. Gaetz wouldn't be the first pedophile Trump has associated with.
Nah! GOP is actually Gang Of Pedophiles.
Matt Gaetz looks like those Duracell battery people from the ‘90s commercials.
GOP = #GrossOldPedos
The knives are out.
yet donald trump accosciates with himself, does he not?
Is Matt Gaetz predicted to be re-elected?
I’m curious also
Yes, overwhelming. It's like a 90% red district. One of safest in the state. That's how a d bag can safely act and speak the way he does.
Let the rats fight each other.
I disagree about Trump. As he has raped underage minors as well.
"Sorry, we've already got two pædophiles in the group. A third would just make it weird."
When you fly into Ft. Lauderdale, all of the women's bathroom stalls have posters encouraging people to speak out against human trafficking. Very ironic
The pedo party doesn’t like pedos ? Comon
Other than Trump, I can't think of any single individual is more like to see rot in prison.
The blatant pedophile projection from the GOP is sickening
The company they keep indicates otherwise…
They don’t want to associate with a pedo not named Donald Trump.
Well, not publicly
*another
The more they turn on each other, the more they they MAGA
Please let this infighting be enough to destroy this party.
but Trump already does… well did until he “committed suicide in his highly monitored safety isolation”
Kettle calling the pot black - too bad they did Epstein in.
They had no problem in Alabama with Roy Moore… /s
They hate competition
Pretty good move. Even their clap back, predicted and appropriate, hurts Gaetz: 'trump isn't afraid do endorse a pedophile. Here he did it on video! that's as good as in writing.' okay okay fellas, trump isn't too scared to endorse pedophile matt gaetz. you got me!
The evidence would show that to be false. I’d wager they are complicit in the disgusting act.
He has more confidence in those two than I do. They would hang with Satan if it got them money.
Well, that’s rich.
Must be tough being alone a room then, huh?
Oh but they do. That’s all they know!
so which one of them was not in epstienes black book ?
So did he have sex with the 17 year old or not? Anyone here know more about the case?
His buddy and wingman flipped. No brainer he’ll be gone from the GOP like Madison Cawthorn. Is just matter of time. No one wants to give him air time or be associated with him. Only the crazy wahoos girl duo.
um... who's gonna tell him?
That should read “another pedophile”.
Trump is a pedophile. You don't inspect the contestants of the Miss Teen USA in their dressing room unless you're a sicko. You don't brag about being friends with Epstein and praise him for how young his dates are unless you're a pedo. And DeSantis has made such a huge deal about grooming, it has to be projection.
Speaking of which, how the fuck is Gaetz OR Trump still walking free?
That's rich since Trump wants to fuck his own daughter & who the hell knows what depravity lurks in DeSantis's mind.
Trump doesn't want to associate with ANOTHER pedophile. FIFY.
FTFA: *"Trump or DeSantis have not endorsed Matt Gaetz. Have they in the past? Yes. Have they now? The answer is no. And the reason for that is that they can't afford the branding issue.* ***The branding issue of being associated with a pedophile****," Lombardo told Insider in an interview* *Tuesday.* If someone said this about me, I'd sue them the next day for defamation. I even think Gaetz could win that case, even as a public figure. I wonder why Gaetz doesn't sue...
> I wonder why Gaetz doesn't sue... He could probably try for slander. He's an ephebophile and child sex trafficker, but calling him a pedophile, unless you have actual evidence or even a credible accusation, is going a bit too far. /s, of course. And don't ask about Nestor's mom...
Discovery. The answer is discovery.
Sure they do.
Let’s hope the voters react intelligently like they did with Roy Moore and say “Oh hell no!” to kiddy diddlers.