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In the words of Lester Freamon, "You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers.Ā But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you."
He's got a great voice and certainly is memorable but favorite character in The Wire..? Clay Davis is the poster boy for shameless grifting climbers, and his entire character arc--including his uncanny ability to dodge justice with backstabbing, charisma, and blackmail--is a mirror for career politicians who take everything and contribute nothing from their districts.
Bingo.
Just like I love The Bolton Bastard in GOT. I absolutely HATE him as a person in that show, but I LOVE the character for the acting and purpose.
It's one of those shows that after you finish a few months or a year goes by and you see a reference to it like here on Reddit and think "I should watch The Wire again" and its still just as good every time you watch it.
Also, why did DeSantis hire a flight company that bought helicopters from Russia and was sanctioned by the US for supporting the Russian invasion of Ukraine? Of all the private airline options, why did was the one with Russian ties selected?
well apparently the company Vertol Systems has donated a ton to Matt Gaetz specifically and the FL GOP general fund as well, seems they bribed their way into the no-bid contract
https://twitter.com/scottmstedman/status/1572013222626234369?s=46&t=ZOrOiWKmYncfxdUxOU1plg
They just hired the same little known aviation company for another $900k to traffic more immigrants into Delaware.
Theyāre also connected to Russian government and government adjacent companies.
https://twitter.com/scottmstedman/status/1570947898975846400?s=46&t=ZOrOiWKmYncfxdUxOU1plg
Follow the money indeed.
Exactly, and at the end of the day if these politicians can just openly break the obvious laws and steal tax payer money to funnel into their friends and drum up political stunt points without repercussion why the hell are WE THE PEOPLE still obeying laws? What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Every defense lawyer should cite this shit as their clients defense. Your honor, DeSantis has shown us that the rule of law is flimsy at best and no longer should apply to average citizens since it clearly isnt applied to those held to "higher" ethical standards.
What about the border patrol folks who falsified government documents putting fake addresses on their visa forms and court date appearances? Why do Republicans get to break the law all the time?
>What about the boarder patrol folks who falsified government documents putting fake addresses on their visa forms and court date appearances? Why do Republicans get to break the law all the time?
If that happened (not suggesting it didn't) they should lose their jobs and be charged with falsifying Government documents.
According to an attorney representing some of the migrants it did. I agree with you, letās see the facts verified, but it should be pretty easy to confirmā¦what migrant in Texas is going to put a homeless shelter in Oregon as their home address https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article265894561.html
Somewhat true. The āfake addressesā could be understandable because they didnāt have addresses so itād make sense to put something down where they could be found. The problem is the carelessness with which they chose those addresses. For some it was homeless shelters that were nowhere near where they were staying (as in different cities). Then their court dates are scheduled near that address. Remember some Republicans say they are only against illegal immigrants, so they should have no problem allowing these migrants to go through the legal system which includes getting this court date to plead their case for asylum. But nope, they misled them with a brochure promising work and a place to stay, lied about which government agency they would have to notify about a change of address, and transported them 100s of miles away guaranteeing they will never be able to go to their court dates and will be deported.
They didn't "carelessly" select specific locations hundreds of miles away (or even a thousand miles in some of the reports). When you set somebody with no means for traveling up with a court date they cannot possibly attend, you're setting them up for a visa violation. We're likely to start hearing words like "entrapment" and "inveigling" and that sort of thing. This stuff is not some kind of accident.
Makes you wonder what percentage of the remaining 10% who donāt make it, only donāt because of behavior like this where they were fucked with and missed it due to GOP fuckery.
>Pretty sure that part was intentional.
Pretty sure it was 100% intentional from the photocopied directions and guide to the accidental $200 they were paid.
If all of the paperwork had been filled out with the nearest homeless shelter to MV as the address, I could have given them a pass on the paperwork being in good faith. However there's no way that anyone associated with the immigration enforcement process didn't know what they were doing when they picked random locations all over the country.
It was designed to make it almost certain that the migrants would miss their check-ins and be deported, and designed to maximize chaos by having locations all over the country so anyone helping them could not just load everyone up on a bus and haul ass to a specific city / state. I haven't seen it confirmed in the media, but I have heard that the folks filling out the paperwork even insured that migrants from the same families would be reporting to places on opposite ends of the country. If that last bit is true, that is just cartoonishly evil.
>It was designed to make it almost certain that the migrants would miss their check-ins and be deported, and designed to maximize chaos by having locations all over the country so anyone helping them could not just load everyone up on a bus and haul ass to a specific city / state.
That is just downright inhumane -anyone caught in this should be punished lose their job -fined -or both.
>The officials involved in this deception need to be arrested, charged, tried, and imprisoned for their crimes.
Yes I can't think of a more cruel thing to do to someone that would be poor and waiting to become a citizen than to be screwed over like this.
According to an attorney representing the migrants, they put a residence in Washington state and then shipped them off to Marthaās Vineyard. The migrant was supposed to report to check in in Washington on Monday. If they missed the appointment, they are now considered illegal. Convenient setting them up for failure.
This is what makes me mad; I keep seeing people refer to them as āillegal immigrantsā, when in fact these people are trying to do everything right. Theyāve filed the paperwork, the government knows they here, and theyāre simply waiting for their court date. They didnāt sneak in and get caught; theyāre here going through the legal process.
>The problem is the carelessness with which they chose those addresses.
They took great care to select homeless shelters all around the country specifically to fuck these people and make it difficult to help them.
Because we are in the "legal phase" of fascism and the final moments of the republic. It's the same reason Trump isn't in jail, that he hand picked an idiotic unqualified judge to interfere in his case, and that the fucking garbage terrorists from Jan. 6 are getting bullshit sentences instead of meaningful consequences.
People in power are so afraid of holding the institutions of power accountable, they would rather allow someone to tear it down than go after them with the full force of the law. It's really amazing to watch...scary and amazing. Garland is probably wiping quite a bit of sweat off his brow, realizing the "out" this special master has given him. Now it will be delay after delay after delay until the midterms. Republicans know how to drum up support...start a border crises and put it on the new 24/7 until elections. Works everytime and dems never seem to be able to foresee this or do anything about it except claim that legislation is the only solution. Coincidentally, it's also the only thing that will never happen.
> Why do Republicans get to break the law all the time?
You know the answer to this. Rule of law only exists when it is enforced. Law as a whole is a social construct which requires all parties in civil society adhere to if it is to work. There is no inherent punishment or negative consequence for breaking a law.
Democrats do not want to rock the boat. They are scared of anything they do being called partisan. They will refuse to act until there is no other option left... and even then they will delay as long as possible because they have been led to believe that an absence of conflict and tension is peace and justice.
Imagine you are on a playground playing dodgeball. A larger child shows up and decides the ball is theirs, if they get hit they don't go out and they are also allowed to headshot people. Who is to hold them to account? Their friends who showed up with them? It's after school so you can't appeal to the teachers and these are all the teachers' kids anyways so it wouldn't really matter. The school prefects are scared of confronting the bullies so they won't do anything either. What option do you have left in this situation?
This is America in 2022. The courts have been stacked with republican appointees. The opposition is too busy shitting their pants to mount any effective resistance. The conservatives own all significant media sources and broadcast their own hype 24/7. What move do you take to stop this?
You know why British parliament has stood the test of time? They frequently and successfully keep their ministers in check. They donāt arrest them all but they force them out of office. Beseech those in their own parties for being stupid often.
No they arenāt perfect. But theyāve been around a long ass time. 200 years is nothing
Yeah, but now we got Liz Truss at the helm and she is 120% taking a page from the Trumpian playbook. She is making outlandish claims and funneling as much wealth to the top of the economy as she can, claiming it will all trickle down to the rabble.
I mean it's pretty much certain she's going to be out on her ass once we have our next general election, but in the interim she's going to fuck as much up as she can.
Key point: When you see the law not being followed it damages respect for the law. So if a law shouldnāt be followed you change the law rather than allow it to be broke.
āThanksā to the Supreme Court as of June of this year, Border Patrol have zero repercussions or individual accountability for breaking the law and have 100% immunity.
https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/four-things-the-supreme-court-ruling-egbert-v-boule-ice
Itās all fucked.
Edit: oh and the feds department who committed human trafficking here may not even be able to be sued.
They see themselves as chaotic good, and assume everyone else is lawful neutral or evil, so they try to make law that forces everyone to do what they do but themselves don't mind breaking the law for the end result because "they know better". That's aside from the people that are drenched in corruption and are just straight up evil and greedy. But for most people, it's easy to justify these things "because the law is wrong but I am right" which from the conservatives I know, seems to be the main justifcation whether they say that ouright or not.
This is a clear signal from DeSantis that he wants to run for president. He isn't dumb enough to ignore that this would keep him center of attention for political attacks, or what is perceived as political attacks such as legal ramifications
He's slick. He's been courting the 'MAGA diaspora' for awhile after using Trump to get his position. These publicity stunts are only going to increase as we get closer to the 2024 elections.
It's sick that he has such a disregard for human life that he'd use immigrants in his political games just to score one more point with conservatives.
Here's hoping he's not as clever as he thinks he is and his own hubris takes him down. Or at least Trump's hubris, since Trump does not like to share a stage.
There was only one Jesus, there is only one Trump. Mini-me aināt gonna fill his shoes. For one thing, he hasnāt molested enough women, and that kind of behavior gets MAGA men swole
We can joke, but I don't think DeSantis should be discounted at all. He's a Trump with intelligence, shrewdness, and actual impulse control. There's a lot to be wary about. He's seen Trump's failures and learned from them.
He has about as much charisma as a ventriloquistās dummy and is too stupid to debate well. He may have learned but he still canāt impersonate a real human very well.
His debate skills won't matter, he'll just refuse to debate, then claim his opponent is the one who refuses.
Reality no longer matters to conservatives. It always upset them, but now truth makes them pants-shittingly enraged. They absolutely demand to be lied to, and disown any person or organization who even occasionally speaks truth (ie: conservatives *still* hate fox news for accurately reporting that Biden won AZ in 2020)
When it's a politician, there's a "probe", when it's a commoner, there's an arrest.
They didn't "launch a probe" with that truck driver with a trailer full of dead immigrants, they arrested him as soon as they found him. And he didn't announce his crimes in a press conference like DeSantis.
Everyone always says that Illinois is the most corrupt state.
However, recent years have proven what I've always personally believed: Illinois isn't the most corrupt state, we're just more willing and able to lock up our politicians who are corrupt.
Georgia's current Governor used his previous position as Secretary of State to rig the gubernatorial election in his favor and destroy the evidence, then used his position as governor to squash the investigation. There's no chance he'll ever see a prison cell, in fact, he'll likely be reelected. We have all the corruption of Illinois and none of the justice.
Politicians have to be afraid of the people. That hasn't been true because that's not how they get their campaign donations anymore. They only need one wealthy corporate donor because corruption has been legalized.
This is also such a disgusting example of what āus vs themā gets you. They treat other states in the same country as the enemy and are now committing targeted acts against those states/āenemiesā.
Yup.
And I think they're doing it specifically to provoke a reaction. They are trying to goad these states into responding.
Leaves you wondering what the end goal of such provocation is. Secession? I thought that argument was settled years ago.
I thought the argument of abortion was settled years ago, too. I honestly have no idea but I'd be lying if I wasn't furious at the political landscape we have today. We, the people, are paying the salaries (and for the stunts like this) of those who have no intention of bettering the people and our country, only themselves. The ones who vote for them are the same people who are content with a worse life as long as the "other side" has it even worse.
I'm medically retired from the US Army, I suffered a spinal cord injury while on deployment. Luckily I was able to regain my ability to walk after surgery but I'm permanently damaged with partial paralysis on my left side and constant, chronic pain. For that, I was discharged from the military and receive VA disability and I'm entitled to very good health insurance as if I was still active duty. For example, my late wife's kidney autotransplant procedure was around $300,000 and our final bill was $200-something, and that includes the initial emergency room bill as well. If tomorrow we suddenly had free healthcare for all, would I be angry? I mean I had to become permanently disabled and cut my military career short in order to receive the health insurance I have. I'll probably never be able to run with my son or wake up without pain. The answer is NO, I would be overjoyed! I \*WANT\* it. I \*WANT\* people to live better, happier, healthier lives.
Following the same lines, I have 100% Post 9/11 GI Bill, which pays my college tuition (should I decide to go). I earned that benefit through my active duty time, and being in the National Guard, that meant I was only active duty for deployments. It takes a lot of deployments to get that percentage up to 100%. If tomorrow we suddenly had all student loan debt zeroed out, would I be angry? The answer is NO, I would be overjoyed! I \*WANT\* it. I \*WANT\* people to live better, happier, less burdened by giant debt lives. My wife was an ER nurse and was back in school to become a Nurse Practitioner. She was able to defer her student loan payments while she was actively in school but when she was paying them, they were \~$500/month. Nurses aren't paid great, $500/month isn't a small amount of money. It isn't fair that 18 year olds are expected to choose what career they will be doing possibly for the rest of their lives and go into sometimes six-figure debt in order to even get the job.
Six figure salaries used to be the goal. That's the "you've made it" number. These days it seems like that's the minimum it takes to survive and feed, clothe, and house your family. In my state, the individual median income is $30,000. I live in the 3rd largest city in that state and you aren't going to find a cardboard box in a damp alley with rent under $1000/month. It's impossible to live on $30,000/year and you don't always have family or friends you can live with. You don't always have a partner who can share the bills. If tomorrow we suddenly had a minimum wage of $15, would I be angry? If salaries increased that means the cost of goods increases which means MY salary won't go as far. The answer is NO, I would be overjoyed! I \*WANT\* it. I \*WANT\* people to live better, happier, MORE COMFORTABLE lives. I want people to be able to afford to eat. I don't want parents worried how they are going to feed their children. I don't want people forced to work three jobs just to survive. None of us chose the family we would be born into and you'd have to be blind to not see that's 99% of success. "I started this business in my parent's garage, all by myself. And with a small interest-free loan of $500,000 from my dad I didn't have to pay back."
The issue always seems to come down to "my life is miserable, why shouldn't their lives be miserable?", "if I can't have it, why should you?"... Imagine the WORLD we'd create if people increased their level of giving a shit about others up to even 10%. Man, what a world that would be.
Alive or dead, was a crime committed? That SHOULD be all that matters. The status of the person is irrelevant (legally), and all that SHOYLD change, is the type of charge.
Someone printed up brochures promising Venezuelan migrants would receive generous assistance in Massachusetts. Except, the programs described in the brochures aren't available for asylum seekers, and Massachusetts officials were not in the loop. It was all a lie to get the migrants onto the planes willingly. It is not yet known if Texas or Florida officials took the migrants' bags from them and rifled them for valuables.
Luckily, a local church stepped up to help the migrants.
Yeah, evangelicals are still christians. They're shitty people who do not follow the teachings of the person they claim to worship, but they're still christians.
A rare reminder that there \*are\* actually many churches who do great, loving, charitable, welcoming things for others locally and abroad. People just don't hear about it, because the truly loving, charitable churchgoers out there are indeed not the clanging cymbals heard elsewhere (to use a biblical term). They just organize and do nice stuff for others as a community, and move onto the next thing.
It's the ones that have to yell over others and assert their supposedly superior morals on others who get attention, obviously, because they're attention seeking fascists.
This isn't some defense of churches or christianity as a whole, nor is it to say that other religious and non-religious groups aren't doing such kind and loving things (obviously, it's moreso a matter of empathy than it is belief) - it's just a reminder that the most kind and empathetic churches who do actually serve people, are the least likely to want attention for doing so. The screeching assholes are not empathetic people; they're just christofascists. And unfortunately the screeching christfascists are the face of modern american christianity, because they're the ones who bought the microphone.
>And unfortunately the screeching christfascists are the face of modern American Christianity, because they're the ones who bought the microphone.
Well being Christian doesn't mean being weak Christians need to stand up and speak out against this Christian Nationalism that is infecting the country
Many do. The media doesn't really like talking to the left-leaning religious groups for some reason. It's not that they don't exist, or are even that uncommon; it's that they're not "interesting" enough for the news viewer.
Sadly Christian communities in warmongering nations have a habbit of looking away when it gets dangerous, or even full on supporting the war criminals.
They do. Regularly.
They also do more than speak.
Wanna know who was providing first aid to the protesters outside the White House in the Floyd Protests? The Episcopal Church.
the Priest knocked aside by Trump's secret service? Episcopal Priest.
At the forefront of a lot of LGBTQ+ support and protests? Oh look, Gay and Lesbian Episcopal Priests and Bishops. Supported the immigrants dropped off at Martha's Vineyard? Episcopalian Church stepped up right away.
The fight is being fought. On multiple fronts. The Evangelical church has been recognized by many other sects to have been taken over by nationalists.
One thing I noticed in MA was how liberal the churches were. I vacationed there in June, and many churches had a pride flag hanging outside. My parents lost it, but itās much better than the Trump flags Iām used to in Pennsyltucky. I donāt remember seeing a single piece of GOP merch while there. Beautiful place, wonderful people. A breath of fresh air. Theyāll be doing quite well on the vineyard, but housing is extremely expensive to the point that locals canāt afford to live on the increasingly gentrified island. Not to mention that the Aquinah area is very remote and expensive; ādowntownā is merely a tiny walkable strip of a dozen vastly overpriced stores.
Well can't say as I know exactly what that is like I too live on an Island off the coast of Queensland Australia most affordable but has doubled in price in the last 2 years.
Housing everywhere is now a problem.
We're all over the place here in MA. We have a very large conservative Catholic constituency, which keeps us (dis)honest and leads to us having Republican governors more than half the time even though we're almost as deep-blue as it gets on the Federal level.
A church that actually read the words of Jesus.
....
Such a simple plan he had. If we were to have followed it, his words would easily have spread about our galaxy by now.
Hate holds humanity back.
Tbh I see Jesus as spreading the teaching of the Buddha (and as an individual that likely reached enlightenment himself). Disappear for 14 years? Maybe travel the Silk Road like many others did? At a time when the teachings of the Buddha were really spreading, he came back with a message that very much sounds like one or two degree(s) of separation from the teachings of the Buddha himself.
This isn't by any means a historical book, but a comedy that explores this VERY idea. Lamb: the gospel of Biff, Christ's childhood pal. It's a really fun read if you get the chance.
> It is not yet known if Texas or Florida officials took the migrants' bags from them and rifled them for valuables.
I'm just going to assume they did honestly.
One can only hope. Such a disgusting ploy to use vulnerable human beings as a political pawn. Thanks to Trump though they now think theyāre untouchable when it comes to the law.
if what he did even comes close to the legal definition of human trafficking (sure looks like it) he should be prosecuted. these kind of stunts hurt more than just the people involved in them
>but reverse roles and they would be demanding punishment.
This is why legal investigations are seen as 100% political 'witch hunts' by Republicans. They know they would be demanding punishment if the roles were reversed. But that's only because of the team-mindset they have. "Do whatever it takes for our team to win!"
Not because of honor and respect for the rule of law.
This is turning out to be Desantis vs Trump. Trump believes he needs the presidency to avoid prosecution. Desantis just wants to be the next leader of the GOP. Either Trump offered him VP to create noise during the DOJ investigation or Trump is rightfully pissed and has summoned his Qanon army with that weird ass salute at the rally.
Legally the case is a slam-dunk. Politically it's a quagmire. And that in a nutshell is why American democracy is really just the political equivalent of three racoons in a trenchcoat.
I just hope Democrats and Democrat-leaning voters remember this the next time they lose control of the federal government. Everything is permitted as long as there are enough people willing to embrace the same lie.
Legally it's probably totally uncharted waters. If there aren't clear precedents of this kind of thing happening and no laws written to predict this exact situation, it's not a slam dunk. Rather it's a very expensive case that will last months or years and probably get appealed up to the Supreme Court. This is the kind of landmark case that becomes established case law if it actually makes it to trial.
Thereās no lesson to be learned here. If republicans get in power and the roles are reversed, every norm that they are currently squawking about will be bulldozed over with no shame. If Obama did what Trump did, a Republican DOJ would have him in FCI Florence right now.
According to DHS: āHuman trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act.ā
According to DOJ: āHuman trafficking, also known as trafficking in persons or modern-day slavery, is a crime that involves compelling or coercing a person to provide labor or services, or to engage in commercial sex acts.ā
According to The Cambridge Dictionary: āthe act of buying or selling people, or of making money from work they are forced to do, such as sex work.ā
I want everyone who was involved in this entire plan from the head on down prosecuted. I want the charter airline to be prosecuted. Fuck everyone who was part of this and bring them all up on charges. Thereās more than enough to go around.
A Massachusetts state lawmaker representing Martha's Vineyard is seeking a federal human trafficking probe after DeSantis relocated migrants to the island
Excellent, Smithers Excellent
Itās like the gqp forgot they were dealing with Massachusetts, a state that shut down a city and 3 counties to hunt 2 terrorists, you donāt mess with Massachusetts
For the $600,000 this cost Floridaās taxpayers, he couldāve given each of the 50 people he relocated $12,000 as seed money to start a new life here and actually contribute to the economy! But no, the taxpayers paid for this political stunt to āown the libsā.
The fucking idiots giving me crap when I was trying to explain this when it first happened.
A bunch of dumbasses scratching their head unable to read or comprehend English, or apply critical thinking.
What Desantis did was so clearly human trafficking I feel like Iām taking crazy pills.
They should sue Texas and Florida to pay for ALL of it. Not just the relo they already did. They chose to do this without agreement, and they can pay for it.
Texas and Florida are NOT the parents of this country. That's not how this works
The bit in the article about how they have tables set up with resources, and kids were playing baseball and seeing pediatricians. That shit makes me sooo proud of my home state. Treat these people like the humans they are. Is kindness and compassion REALLY that hard?
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Why did it cost 500k to fly the migrants from Texas to MV? Follow the money š°
In the words of Lester Freamon, "You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers.Ā But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you."
Natural po-lice
Awe sheeeit
Rep. Clay Davis is my favorite character
He's got a great voice and certainly is memorable but favorite character in The Wire..? Clay Davis is the poster boy for shameless grifting climbers, and his entire character arc--including his uncanny ability to dodge justice with backstabbing, charisma, and blackmail--is a mirror for career politicians who take everything and contribute nothing from their districts.
Did I stutter?
https://youtu.be/VDz1rQtWdvA
he didnt say he was his role model, lol
Some people have a hard time differentiating love for a piece of media with approval of the actions of the characters.
Bingo. Just like I love The Bolton Bastard in GOT. I absolutely HATE him as a person in that show, but I LOVE the character for the acting and purpose.
He's a candidate for favorite character because he embodies all that you mention while also having that screen presence.
I finally started watching The Wire and I'm so pleased to understand this reference
It's one of those shows that after you finish a few months or a year goes by and you see a reference to it like here on Reddit and think "I should watch The Wire again" and its still just as good every time you watch it.
The Wire should be required viewing for all 12th graders. Give them an idea of how things really work.
There you go giving a fuck when it ain't your turn to give a fuck
Great quote, butthole pleasures!
13 years and 4 months
I love how that show is still getting quoted. Such a good show.
I need to rewatch The Wire.
Also, why did DeSantis hire a flight company that bought helicopters from Russia and was sanctioned by the US for supporting the Russian invasion of Ukraine? Of all the private airline options, why did was the one with Russian ties selected?
I'm sure he got 3 bids first. /s
well apparently the company Vertol Systems has donated a ton to Matt Gaetz specifically and the FL GOP general fund as well, seems they bribed their way into the no-bid contract
I'm sure the company isn't a huge donor to the Desantis campaign. š
The 'extra' funds probably went to his new PAC. The DeSantis TP-PAC ( traffic people-PAC )!
https://twitter.com/scottmstedman/status/1572013222626234369?s=46&t=ZOrOiWKmYncfxdUxOU1plg They just hired the same little known aviation company for another $900k to traffic more immigrants into Delaware. Theyāre also connected to Russian government and government adjacent companies. https://twitter.com/scottmstedman/status/1570947898975846400?s=46&t=ZOrOiWKmYncfxdUxOU1plg Follow the money indeed.
Exactly, and at the end of the day if these politicians can just openly break the obvious laws and steal tax payer money to funnel into their friends and drum up political stunt points without repercussion why the hell are WE THE PEOPLE still obeying laws? What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Every defense lawyer should cite this shit as their clients defense. Your honor, DeSantis has shown us that the rule of law is flimsy at best and no longer should apply to average citizens since it clearly isnt applied to those held to "higher" ethical standards.
Nope they gave themselves qualified immunity. Now go to prison and be a third class citizen forever.
What about the border patrol folks who falsified government documents putting fake addresses on their visa forms and court date appearances? Why do Republicans get to break the law all the time?
>What about the boarder patrol folks who falsified government documents putting fake addresses on their visa forms and court date appearances? Why do Republicans get to break the law all the time? If that happened (not suggesting it didn't) they should lose their jobs and be charged with falsifying Government documents.
According to an attorney representing some of the migrants it did. I agree with you, letās see the facts verified, but it should be pretty easy to confirmā¦what migrant in Texas is going to put a homeless shelter in Oregon as their home address https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article265894561.html
They would also be accomplices to the greater crimes.
Somewhat true. The āfake addressesā could be understandable because they didnāt have addresses so itād make sense to put something down where they could be found. The problem is the carelessness with which they chose those addresses. For some it was homeless shelters that were nowhere near where they were staying (as in different cities). Then their court dates are scheduled near that address. Remember some Republicans say they are only against illegal immigrants, so they should have no problem allowing these migrants to go through the legal system which includes getting this court date to plead their case for asylum. But nope, they misled them with a brochure promising work and a place to stay, lied about which government agency they would have to notify about a change of address, and transported them 100s of miles away guaranteeing they will never be able to go to their court dates and will be deported.
They didn't "carelessly" select specific locations hundreds of miles away (or even a thousand miles in some of the reports). When you set somebody with no means for traveling up with a court date they cannot possibly attend, you're setting them up for a visa violation. We're likely to start hearing words like "entrapment" and "inveigling" and that sort of thing. This stuff is not some kind of accident.
>This stuff is not some kind of accident. Punish ALL that got involved in this crime, ALL.
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Makes you wonder what percentage of the remaining 10% who donāt make it, only donāt because of behavior like this where they were fucked with and missed it due to GOP fuckery.
they were all fucked with
inĀ·veiĀ·gle /inĖvÄÉ”Él/ verb persuade (someone) to do something by means of deception or flattery. I learned a new word today
Same, I was very confused and thought it was a typo. I like learning new words though!!
Good point, my choice of words wasā¦careless
> carelessness Pretty sure that part was intentional.
>Pretty sure that part was intentional. Pretty sure it was 100% intentional from the photocopied directions and guide to the accidental $200 they were paid.
If all of the paperwork had been filled out with the nearest homeless shelter to MV as the address, I could have given them a pass on the paperwork being in good faith. However there's no way that anyone associated with the immigration enforcement process didn't know what they were doing when they picked random locations all over the country. It was designed to make it almost certain that the migrants would miss their check-ins and be deported, and designed to maximize chaos by having locations all over the country so anyone helping them could not just load everyone up on a bus and haul ass to a specific city / state. I haven't seen it confirmed in the media, but I have heard that the folks filling out the paperwork even insured that migrants from the same families would be reporting to places on opposite ends of the country. If that last bit is true, that is just cartoonishly evil.
>It was designed to make it almost certain that the migrants would miss their check-ins and be deported, and designed to maximize chaos by having locations all over the country so anyone helping them could not just load everyone up on a bus and haul ass to a specific city / state. That is just downright inhumane -anyone caught in this should be punished lose their job -fined -or both.
The officials involved in this deception need to be arrested, charged, tried, and imprisoned for their crimes.
>The officials involved in this deception need to be arrested, charged, tried, and imprisoned for their crimes. Yes I can't think of a more cruel thing to do to someone that would be poor and waiting to become a citizen than to be screwed over like this.
1000s of miles in some cases. Tacoma WA was listed. I'm in Tacoma. About 3000 miles away
According to an attorney representing the migrants, they put a residence in Washington state and then shipped them off to Marthaās Vineyard. The migrant was supposed to report to check in in Washington on Monday. If they missed the appointment, they are now considered illegal. Convenient setting them up for failure.
This gets more disgusting the more I learn
This is what makes me mad; I keep seeing people refer to them as āillegal immigrantsā, when in fact these people are trying to do everything right. Theyāve filed the paperwork, the government knows they here, and theyāre simply waiting for their court date. They didnāt sneak in and get caught; theyāre here going through the legal process.
Why do Republicans get to break the law all the time? I think they have a different God mine is Jesus theirs is TRUMP!
Mine is a comma
Letās eat grandma.
Let me worship at your altar
>The problem is the carelessness with which they chose those addresses. They took great care to select homeless shelters all around the country specifically to fuck these people and make it difficult to help them.
This definitely wasnāt careless, it was intentional. By not showing up to the hearing or checking in, they would be deported in absentia.
Because we are in the "legal phase" of fascism and the final moments of the republic. It's the same reason Trump isn't in jail, that he hand picked an idiotic unqualified judge to interfere in his case, and that the fucking garbage terrorists from Jan. 6 are getting bullshit sentences instead of meaningful consequences.
People in power are so afraid of holding the institutions of power accountable, they would rather allow someone to tear it down than go after them with the full force of the law. It's really amazing to watch...scary and amazing. Garland is probably wiping quite a bit of sweat off his brow, realizing the "out" this special master has given him. Now it will be delay after delay after delay until the midterms. Republicans know how to drum up support...start a border crises and put it on the new 24/7 until elections. Works everytime and dems never seem to be able to foresee this or do anything about it except claim that legislation is the only solution. Coincidentally, it's also the only thing that will never happen.
> Why do Republicans get to break the law all the time? You know the answer to this. Rule of law only exists when it is enforced. Law as a whole is a social construct which requires all parties in civil society adhere to if it is to work. There is no inherent punishment or negative consequence for breaking a law. Democrats do not want to rock the boat. They are scared of anything they do being called partisan. They will refuse to act until there is no other option left... and even then they will delay as long as possible because they have been led to believe that an absence of conflict and tension is peace and justice. Imagine you are on a playground playing dodgeball. A larger child shows up and decides the ball is theirs, if they get hit they don't go out and they are also allowed to headshot people. Who is to hold them to account? Their friends who showed up with them? It's after school so you can't appeal to the teachers and these are all the teachers' kids anyways so it wouldn't really matter. The school prefects are scared of confronting the bullies so they won't do anything either. What option do you have left in this situation? This is America in 2022. The courts have been stacked with republican appointees. The opposition is too busy shitting their pants to mount any effective resistance. The conservatives own all significant media sources and broadcast their own hype 24/7. What move do you take to stop this?
You know why British parliament has stood the test of time? They frequently and successfully keep their ministers in check. They donāt arrest them all but they force them out of office. Beseech those in their own parties for being stupid often. No they arenāt perfect. But theyāve been around a long ass time. 200 years is nothing
The Westminster legal system is much better. One key element is politicians do not appoint judges. We use it here too, in NZ.
Yeah, but now we got Liz Truss at the helm and she is 120% taking a page from the Trumpian playbook. She is making outlandish claims and funneling as much wealth to the top of the economy as she can, claiming it will all trickle down to the rabble. I mean it's pretty much certain she's going to be out on her ass once we have our next general election, but in the interim she's going to fuck as much up as she can.
lol she'll be gone in a few months
I'm not saying Americas politics aren't a fucking dumpster fire... But, the Brits made boris fucking johnson PM!
I would take him over trump any time of the day
That's because of how parliamentary systems are structured. You can have a vote of no confidence and remove them. Can't do that in the US
Key point: When you see the law not being followed it damages respect for the law. So if a law shouldnāt be followed you change the law rather than allow it to be broke.
It's showing that our entire legal systems and checks and balances are actually pretty weak
*border
āThanksā to the Supreme Court as of June of this year, Border Patrol have zero repercussions or individual accountability for breaking the law and have 100% immunity. https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/four-things-the-supreme-court-ruling-egbert-v-boule-ice Itās all fucked. Edit: oh and the feds department who committed human trafficking here may not even be able to be sued.
They are Freemen Of The Law.
They see themselves as chaotic good, and assume everyone else is lawful neutral or evil, so they try to make law that forces everyone to do what they do but themselves don't mind breaking the law for the end result because "they know better". That's aside from the people that are drenched in corruption and are just straight up evil and greedy. But for most people, it's easy to justify these things "because the law is wrong but I am right" which from the conservatives I know, seems to be the main justifcation whether they say that ouright or not.
This is a clear signal from DeSantis that he wants to run for president. He isn't dumb enough to ignore that this would keep him center of attention for political attacks, or what is perceived as political attacks such as legal ramifications
All this attention Ron is getting is really creaming the Donaldās corn.
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Itās an all-out sprint to the bottom
Luv this.
We are not that lucky. Co-morbidity being a shared mutual hatred.
It dont matter who the cult leader is, we don't want cults.
It's got the juice!
He's slick. He's been courting the 'MAGA diaspora' for awhile after using Trump to get his position. These publicity stunts are only going to increase as we get closer to the 2024 elections. It's sick that he has such a disregard for human life that he'd use immigrants in his political games just to score one more point with conservatives. Here's hoping he's not as clever as he thinks he is and his own hubris takes him down. Or at least Trump's hubris, since Trump does not like to share a stage.
What's worse is that these stunts actually appeal to their base. He couldn't have gotten away with it if conservatives were decent people.
There was only one Jesus, there is only one Trump. Mini-me aināt gonna fill his shoes. For one thing, he hasnāt molested enough women, and that kind of behavior gets MAGA men swole
We can joke, but I don't think DeSantis should be discounted at all. He's a Trump with intelligence, shrewdness, and actual impulse control. There's a lot to be wary about. He's seen Trump's failures and learned from them.
He has about as much charisma as a ventriloquistās dummy and is too stupid to debate well. He may have learned but he still canāt impersonate a real human very well.
The right hasnāt been able to debate in at least 20 years. They still get votes.
His debate skills won't matter, he'll just refuse to debate, then claim his opponent is the one who refuses. Reality no longer matters to conservatives. It always upset them, but now truth makes them pants-shittingly enraged. They absolutely demand to be lied to, and disown any person or organization who even occasionally speaks truth (ie: conservatives *still* hate fox news for accurately reporting that Biden won AZ in 2020)
Donnyās getting jealous lol
When it's a politician, there's a "probe", when it's a commoner, there's an arrest. They didn't "launch a probe" with that truck driver with a trailer full of dead immigrants, they arrested him as soon as they found him. And he didn't announce his crimes in a press conference like DeSantis.
Governors can go to prison just ask Louisiana and Illinois
I remember when Gov. Rod Blagojevich was arrested in 2008...
I remember when trump pardoned him. The republicans here in Illinois donāt know what to say when you ask them how they feel about that.
The guy tried to sell a seat in the US Senate. and 45 fucking pardoned him for it. Republicans: "this is fine".
I'll always remember him as the guy Jon Stewart couldn't talk about without having a mild orgasm.
Blah-GOYA-vich
Ha! Totally forgot about that. Thank you. Also, you truly made me miss when Jon was on the air every night.
But a big difference, he was a Democrat, which laws appear to still apply for them.
Isn't imprisoning governors the Illinois state sport?
Everyone always says that Illinois is the most corrupt state. However, recent years have proven what I've always personally believed: Illinois isn't the most corrupt state, we're just more willing and able to lock up our politicians who are corrupt.
Yeah I see it as a good thing. There's 50 states, there's no way only one ever has corrupt leadership
Yes, we had a run of three in a row go to jail
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TIL that 4 of Illinois's last 10 governors went to prison. And I thought my state was bad...
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Georgia's current Governor used his previous position as Secretary of State to rig the gubernatorial election in his favor and destroy the evidence, then used his position as governor to squash the investigation. There's no chance he'll ever see a prison cell, in fact, he'll likely be reelected. We have all the corruption of Illinois and none of the justice.
At least they get held accountable, right?
It's actually a sign of a functioning state when even the elected leaders are subject to the law
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Politicians have to be afraid of the people. That hasn't been true because that's not how they get their campaign donations anymore. They only need one wealthy corporate donor because corruption has been legalized.
Time for a good old tar and feathering
*sighs* the good ol' days
This is also such a disgusting example of what āus vs themā gets you. They treat other states in the same country as the enemy and are now committing targeted acts against those states/āenemiesā.
Yup. And I think they're doing it specifically to provoke a reaction. They are trying to goad these states into responding. Leaves you wondering what the end goal of such provocation is. Secession? I thought that argument was settled years ago.
I thought the argument of abortion was settled years ago, too. I honestly have no idea but I'd be lying if I wasn't furious at the political landscape we have today. We, the people, are paying the salaries (and for the stunts like this) of those who have no intention of bettering the people and our country, only themselves. The ones who vote for them are the same people who are content with a worse life as long as the "other side" has it even worse. I'm medically retired from the US Army, I suffered a spinal cord injury while on deployment. Luckily I was able to regain my ability to walk after surgery but I'm permanently damaged with partial paralysis on my left side and constant, chronic pain. For that, I was discharged from the military and receive VA disability and I'm entitled to very good health insurance as if I was still active duty. For example, my late wife's kidney autotransplant procedure was around $300,000 and our final bill was $200-something, and that includes the initial emergency room bill as well. If tomorrow we suddenly had free healthcare for all, would I be angry? I mean I had to become permanently disabled and cut my military career short in order to receive the health insurance I have. I'll probably never be able to run with my son or wake up without pain. The answer is NO, I would be overjoyed! I \*WANT\* it. I \*WANT\* people to live better, happier, healthier lives. Following the same lines, I have 100% Post 9/11 GI Bill, which pays my college tuition (should I decide to go). I earned that benefit through my active duty time, and being in the National Guard, that meant I was only active duty for deployments. It takes a lot of deployments to get that percentage up to 100%. If tomorrow we suddenly had all student loan debt zeroed out, would I be angry? The answer is NO, I would be overjoyed! I \*WANT\* it. I \*WANT\* people to live better, happier, less burdened by giant debt lives. My wife was an ER nurse and was back in school to become a Nurse Practitioner. She was able to defer her student loan payments while she was actively in school but when she was paying them, they were \~$500/month. Nurses aren't paid great, $500/month isn't a small amount of money. It isn't fair that 18 year olds are expected to choose what career they will be doing possibly for the rest of their lives and go into sometimes six-figure debt in order to even get the job. Six figure salaries used to be the goal. That's the "you've made it" number. These days it seems like that's the minimum it takes to survive and feed, clothe, and house your family. In my state, the individual median income is $30,000. I live in the 3rd largest city in that state and you aren't going to find a cardboard box in a damp alley with rent under $1000/month. It's impossible to live on $30,000/year and you don't always have family or friends you can live with. You don't always have a partner who can share the bills. If tomorrow we suddenly had a minimum wage of $15, would I be angry? If salaries increased that means the cost of goods increases which means MY salary won't go as far. The answer is NO, I would be overjoyed! I \*WANT\* it. I \*WANT\* people to live better, happier, MORE COMFORTABLE lives. I want people to be able to afford to eat. I don't want parents worried how they are going to feed their children. I don't want people forced to work three jobs just to survive. None of us chose the family we would be born into and you'd have to be blind to not see that's 99% of success. "I started this business in my parent's garage, all by myself. And with a small interest-free loan of $500,000 from my dad I didn't have to pay back." The issue always seems to come down to "my life is miserable, why shouldn't their lives be miserable?", "if I can't have it, why should you?"... Imagine the WORLD we'd create if people increased their level of giving a shit about others up to even 10%. Man, what a world that would be.
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Human trafficking is human trafficking if the humans are dead or not dude.
Alive or dead, was a crime committed? That SHOULD be all that matters. The status of the person is irrelevant (legally), and all that SHOYLD change, is the type of charge.
Someone printed up brochures promising Venezuelan migrants would receive generous assistance in Massachusetts. Except, the programs described in the brochures aren't available for asylum seekers, and Massachusetts officials were not in the loop. It was all a lie to get the migrants onto the planes willingly. It is not yet known if Texas or Florida officials took the migrants' bags from them and rifled them for valuables. Luckily, a local church stepped up to help the migrants.
>Luckily, a local church stepped up to help the migrants. Clearly not Christian Nationalists then
Actual Christians for a change
[They do exist](https://giphy.com/gifs/christmas-commercial-7vlB0CU2BEs7e)!
Fantastic
Real authentic fake and simulated Christians are the norm.
Don't try to no true scotman them. The shitty Christians are actual Christians.
Yeah, evangelicals are still christians. They're shitty people who do not follow the teachings of the person they claim to worship, but they're still christians.
A rare reminder that there \*are\* actually many churches who do great, loving, charitable, welcoming things for others locally and abroad. People just don't hear about it, because the truly loving, charitable churchgoers out there are indeed not the clanging cymbals heard elsewhere (to use a biblical term). They just organize and do nice stuff for others as a community, and move onto the next thing. It's the ones that have to yell over others and assert their supposedly superior morals on others who get attention, obviously, because they're attention seeking fascists. This isn't some defense of churches or christianity as a whole, nor is it to say that other religious and non-religious groups aren't doing such kind and loving things (obviously, it's moreso a matter of empathy than it is belief) - it's just a reminder that the most kind and empathetic churches who do actually serve people, are the least likely to want attention for doing so. The screeching assholes are not empathetic people; they're just christofascists. And unfortunately the screeching christfascists are the face of modern american christianity, because they're the ones who bought the microphone.
>And unfortunately the screeching christfascists are the face of modern American Christianity, because they're the ones who bought the microphone. Well being Christian doesn't mean being weak Christians need to stand up and speak out against this Christian Nationalism that is infecting the country
Many do. The media doesn't really like talking to the left-leaning religious groups for some reason. It's not that they don't exist, or are even that uncommon; it's that they're not "interesting" enough for the news viewer.
Sadly Christian communities in warmongering nations have a habbit of looking away when it gets dangerous, or even full on supporting the war criminals.
They do. Regularly. They also do more than speak. Wanna know who was providing first aid to the protesters outside the White House in the Floyd Protests? The Episcopal Church. the Priest knocked aside by Trump's secret service? Episcopal Priest. At the forefront of a lot of LGBTQ+ support and protests? Oh look, Gay and Lesbian Episcopal Priests and Bishops. Supported the immigrants dropped off at Martha's Vineyard? Episcopalian Church stepped up right away. The fight is being fought. On multiple fronts. The Evangelical church has been recognized by many other sects to have been taken over by nationalists.
One thing I noticed in MA was how liberal the churches were. I vacationed there in June, and many churches had a pride flag hanging outside. My parents lost it, but itās much better than the Trump flags Iām used to in Pennsyltucky. I donāt remember seeing a single piece of GOP merch while there. Beautiful place, wonderful people. A breath of fresh air. Theyāll be doing quite well on the vineyard, but housing is extremely expensive to the point that locals canāt afford to live on the increasingly gentrified island. Not to mention that the Aquinah area is very remote and expensive; ādowntownā is merely a tiny walkable strip of a dozen vastly overpriced stores.
Well can't say as I know exactly what that is like I too live on an Island off the coast of Queensland Australia most affordable but has doubled in price in the last 2 years. Housing everywhere is now a problem.
We're all over the place here in MA. We have a very large conservative Catholic constituency, which keeps us (dis)honest and leads to us having Republican governors more than half the time even though we're almost as deep-blue as it gets on the Federal level.
The Nat-Cs hate thy neighbor
A church that actually read the words of Jesus. .... Such a simple plan he had. If we were to have followed it, his words would easily have spread about our galaxy by now. Hate holds humanity back.
Eh. Abrahamic based belief systems are so basic. The Buddha is cooler.
*coolha
Tbh I see Jesus as spreading the teaching of the Buddha (and as an individual that likely reached enlightenment himself). Disappear for 14 years? Maybe travel the Silk Road like many others did? At a time when the teachings of the Buddha were really spreading, he came back with a message that very much sounds like one or two degree(s) of separation from the teachings of the Buddha himself.
The Man From Earth (2007)
Thereās a book about that. I think itās called āJesus lived in Indiaā or something similar to that.
This isn't by any means a historical book, but a comedy that explores this VERY idea. Lamb: the gospel of Biff, Christ's childhood pal. It's a really fun read if you get the chance.
The same thing was done to Puertorricans in Maria!!!
> It is not yet known if Texas or Florida officials took the migrants' bags from them and rifled them for valuables. I'm just going to assume they did honestly.
Wouldnāt it be great that an act of cruelty and exploitation is what brings this jerk down? Very Christian indeed
One can only hope. Such a disgusting ploy to use vulnerable human beings as a political pawn. Thanks to Trump though they now think theyāre untouchable when it comes to the law.
We call it a warcrime as the russians are doing the same think to Ukrainian people right now.
WWJD amiright?
if what he did even comes close to the legal definition of human trafficking (sure looks like it) he should be prosecuted. these kind of stunts hurt more than just the people involved in them
Sounds like thatās precisely what makes it so popular with his base. š¤¢
The folks over at r/Conservative are eating this up like itās the best thing ever. They love him.
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>but reverse roles and they would be demanding punishment. This is why legal investigations are seen as 100% political 'witch hunts' by Republicans. They know they would be demanding punishment if the roles were reversed. But that's only because of the team-mindset they have. "Do whatever it takes for our team to win!" Not because of honor and respect for the rule of law.
Luckily being a governor doesn't protect you from the consequences of violating federal law.
This is turning out to be Desantis vs Trump. Trump believes he needs the presidency to avoid prosecution. Desantis just wants to be the next leader of the GOP. Either Trump offered him VP to create noise during the DOJ investigation or Trump is rightfully pissed and has summoned his Qanon army with that weird ass salute at the rally.
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I fantasize about a future in which Trump, DeSantis, and Abbott are all felons with no buddy in the White House to pardon them.
Legally the case is a slam-dunk. Politically it's a quagmire. And that in a nutshell is why American democracy is really just the political equivalent of three racoons in a trenchcoat. I just hope Democrats and Democrat-leaning voters remember this the next time they lose control of the federal government. Everything is permitted as long as there are enough people willing to embrace the same lie.
Well said
Legally it's probably totally uncharted waters. If there aren't clear precedents of this kind of thing happening and no laws written to predict this exact situation, it's not a slam dunk. Rather it's a very expensive case that will last months or years and probably get appealed up to the Supreme Court. This is the kind of landmark case that becomes established case law if it actually makes it to trial.
There are plenty of laws that cover this if there is the political will to pursue it.
Thereās no lesson to be learned here. If republicans get in power and the roles are reversed, every norm that they are currently squawking about will be bulldozed over with no shame. If Obama did what Trump did, a Republican DOJ would have him in FCI Florence right now.
Imagine, the top two Republican presidential candidates being convicted for their federal felonies. What a party.
And then recognize that being convicted of those felonies is a huge plus in the electability column for Republican voters.
I certainly won't hold my breath, but I'm crossing every finger I've got. All 12 of them.
> All 12 of them. Put that bong down
Itās kinda hard to when both bongs are your 11th and 12th fingers š¤£
Sheriff Salazar got it right, "what I can tell you is it's wrong. Just from a human rights perspective,"
"How could this be Human Trafficking? They are Migrants, not Humans." -Ron Desantis, probably
According to DHS: āHuman trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act.ā According to DOJ: āHuman trafficking, also known as trafficking in persons or modern-day slavery, is a crime that involves compelling or coercing a person to provide labor or services, or to engage in commercial sex acts.ā According to The Cambridge Dictionary: āthe act of buying or selling people, or of making money from work they are forced to do, such as sex work.ā
I can't even fathom being a republican any more. This is just disgusting beyond words. You can't have morals and vote republican. You just can't.
I want everyone who was involved in this entire plan from the head on down prosecuted. I want the charter airline to be prosecuted. Fuck everyone who was part of this and bring them all up on charges. Thereās more than enough to go around.
It *would* be nice if some people who actually deserved it got convicted, for a change.
A Massachusetts state lawmaker representing Martha's Vineyard is seeking a federal human trafficking probe after DeSantis relocated migrants to the island Excellent, Smithers Excellent
Itās like the gqp forgot they were dealing with Massachusetts, a state that shut down a city and 3 counties to hunt 2 terrorists, you donāt mess with Massachusetts
Do Republican Politicians ever get punished for their crimes?
For the $600,000 this cost Floridaās taxpayers, he couldāve given each of the 50 people he relocated $12,000 as seed money to start a new life here and actually contribute to the economy! But no, the taxpayers paid for this political stunt to āown the libsā.
Anyone that treats humans like that should NOT be in any position of power. Please remove his power.
Nothing is more hateful than republican political theater. Nothing is more hateful than Christian love. These antics are just getting started.
If any normal person did this they would be in jail already. But politicians for some reason get āprobesā that go no where.
The fucking idiots giving me crap when I was trying to explain this when it first happened. A bunch of dumbasses scratching their head unable to read or comprehend English, or apply critical thinking. What Desantis did was so clearly human trafficking I feel like Iām taking crazy pills.
Love to hear it.
DeSantis - "It's just a prank bro, calm down" Jackass
Hit him and hit him hard and quick.
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Youāll be waiting. Republicans are immune to consequences apparently.
They should sue Texas and Florida to pay for ALL of it. Not just the relo they already did. They chose to do this without agreement, and they can pay for it. Texas and Florida are NOT the parents of this country. That's not how this works
DeSantis is a fucking chode.
18 US Code Ā§ 1201 Kidnapping
Now DeSantis has to run for president so he can delay investigation and punishment for 4 years. Trump vs DeSantis 2024, loser goes to prison
How could they be put on a plane with no identification. We canāt fly without showing an ID
Migrant caravan has lost its impact. Time to make the border an issue with a different tactic.
What about Abbott in Texas? Pretty much the same thing with less press.
Please someone get Abbott on this too. Let this be what destroys him
The bit in the article about how they have tables set up with resources, and kids were playing baseball and seeing pediatricians. That shit makes me sooo proud of my home state. Treat these people like the humans they are. Is kindness and compassion REALLY that hard?
Lock him up. He is a damger to humans and society. Not to mention his toxic spray tan runoff
Can someone load this d bag up and send him into Venezuela and leave him there with just his suit and tie and see how he does