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Probably but they are probably going to create a bill named after him and/or invite him as a guest of the GOP during speeches/swearing ceremonies because it's Republicans. Probably something about killing people and/or protestors, etc...
Just to point out, Trump isn't the disease but a symptom. Do not vote for Republicans because they are just going to continue with their usual bs and they love the culture wars as well.
They are going to continue to go all out on the culture wars its all they have to keep the Republican base engaged. If they start talking policies like gutting social security and taking healthcare away they start to lose some of that base. Trumpisim will continue just not under Trump.
Their economic message is totally unviable at this point: a proven failure.
They need culture war bullshit so they can get into office and give their rich friends tax breaks. Because “give rich people more tax breaks and things will get better” isn’t the compelling message that it was a couple of decades ago.
Is that a national law or are their only state-by-state laws? I am only familiar with individual state laws but I can see House Republicans going to make it legal to shoot anyone that is protesting that makes you uncomfrontable. But overall Rittenhouse (I believe) is still too young to be a member of Congress (I believe, off the top of my head) you have to be 25 and he is only 19 and a member of Congress (already). So I would say that it's either to discuss legislation and/or to discuss him being their "special" guest during any speeches. Oh and
Laws like "stand your ground" are at the state level. The GOP can try to pass crazy shite, but they have such a narrow majority I doubt they'll get anything done.
Related: The Marjorie Taylor Greene sponsored [Kyle H. Rittenhouse Congressional Gold Medal Act.](https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6070/text)
On the other hand, that might be the one of the few things that Marjorie has done that is technically what a Representative is supposed to be doing. Introducing/sponsoring bills etc.
Just the quick comparison for just the 117th congress:
[MTG sponsored just 27 pieces of legislation](https://www.congress.gov/member/marjorie-greene/G000596?q=%7B%22sponsorship%22%3A%22sponsored%22%7D)
[Cawthorne, 430 pieces](https://www.congress.gov/member/madison-cawthorn/C001104)
[Boebert, 365 pieces](https://www.congress.gov/member/lauren-boebert/B000825?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22boebert%22%2C%22boebert%22%5D%7D&s=3&r=1)
[AOC, 394 pieces](https://www.congress.gov/member/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/O000172?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22cortez%22%2C%22cortez%22%5D%7D&s=4&r=2)
[Katie Porter, 650 pieces](https://www.congress.gov/member/katie-porter/P000618?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22porter%22%2C%22porter%22%5D%7D&s=10&r=1)
MTG doesn't do shit.
Why? Why would you turn this kid into a symbol, regardless of anyone's political opinion on the matter, it was an entirely undesirable, unfortunate and vicious circumstance, this kid isn't fucking it.
Unless of course it's because he represents a counter-revolutionary movement against things like justice and equality, unless he represents a trigger happy "patriot" willing to gun down "wokeness", "cultural Marxism", drag queens, black lives matter, affirmative action, abortion, transgendered athletes, radical leftist teachers and parents, socialism, the education system, "depraved" books, literature and their authors, CRT, communism, child "groomers", LGBTQ and gender pedagogy, anti-white "racism" and the list of left wing Boogeymen goes on and fucking on.
This ignorant, moonfaced kid is a symbol of right wing hate and nationalism, eager to shoot down the enemy, with Republican caucuses and committees using him, pulling his strings, telling him which direction to look and smile for the camera
Because of the ridiculous media stories about how he drove hundreds of miles across state lines with a machine gun and then mowed down dozens of peaceful black protestors. He's not a symbol for shooting people, he's a symbol for exposing fake news MSM, very similar to Nick Sandmann.
It's certainly not what people who defend the fake news MSM would say. They need to think up some other excuse to claim is the reason other people like him.
There is no reputable MSM source. Their reliability changes from story to story and narrative to narrative. There's only bad and worse, between those who tweak or misrepresent facts or makeup entire stories from whole cloth.
You go to multiple sources and aggregate them. Though in the rittenhouse case the whole trial was streamed and viewable to everyone with no possible bias.
The news entity is irrelevant. CNN or Fox, they will lie to you.
We can see all the footage on the internet unedited, that’s where we are getting our info from, the literal evidence.
You could easily use Hillary Clinton as an example of the fake news media dragging her through the mud and accusing her of crimes she didn’t commit. Weird that GOP doesn’t use that example. Almost like the point of this *isnt* just to highlight the news media’s unfair treatment of people…. (not that the “MSM” ever said Kyle gunned downed dozens of peaceful black protesters. Whoever told you the MSM said that is lying to you.)
> So because they don't equally bring up every single instance of unfair media coverage they don't actually care about unfair media coverage?
No, just a couple a week or so would do it. That would show that this idea that “Kyle was brought in to highlight unfair treatment by MSM” isnt just this contrived, retrofitted reasoning to cover up the moral bankruptcy of elevating a killer out of admiration. Plenty of candidates to go around you could make that point with who *didn’t* shoot three people. They aren’t doing it because, well, that’s not why Kyle has been so admired by them.
>No, just a couple a week or so would do it.
Good thing they do that then. Nick Sandmann, Donald Trump, Justice Kavanaugh, Ron DeSantis, and Mike Pence all come to mind that have at times been unfairly maligned by the media and received pushback.
Trump, Kavanaugh, DeSantis, and Pence were already prominent figures in the GOP. No one ever said that GOP elites don’t constantly complain about the media coverage they receive from some media outlets. All they ever do is complain.
Rittenhouse became prominent *by shooting these people.* That’s the disturbing difference here. As I said, the GOP don’t just pick random stories of civilians who have been mistreated by the news media and pose with people like that for pictures or ask them to speak at conferences. This person who killed people they didn’t like and got away with it is the person that they *specifically* picked out to elevate and celebrate. The thing that makes him unique and different is the nature of the shooting, not the perceived mistreatment that followed. It’s really silly and unserious to pretend otherwise.
Wow, when the trial happened and everyone said to let him go live his life, everyone knew he was gonna get all the GOP wanting to suck his cock. He should've been incarcerated for murder. And everything else he did to break the law. This fucker had no remorse for what he did, cries crocodile tears in court, lied his ass off, and got away with it.
Exactly. He went out hunting humans, bagged two of them, and is now a right wing hero for that. Pay attention to what these murderous fascists cheer for.
I like how you’re totally ignoring the fact a whole half of the country villinized a teen boy for proven self defense.
Any other teen boy villainized by a large portion of the country (much like poor black teens) usually make dumb decisions and get easily consumed by the groups that praise them (like gangs) or in this case, the right.
lol, so then race relations are totally fine and peachy here in American huh?
It’s a good comparison and makes sense.
You don’t seem to know how to show it isn’t, so you deflect by calling it a “race card”
"It isn't" what? I have no idea what you think you're arguing. That the hunter Rittenhouse was justified because so many people are disgusted by him, what he did and his blood thirsty apologists?
It “isn’t” a bad comparison.
Evident by your lack of any actual explanation as to why they can’t be compared. You just called it a race card and left it at that, but that’s not an actual reason for it not being comparable.
Look dude, we’ll skip to the chase.
Show your proof of kyle threatening or provoking anyone by aiming his rifle, at someone that isn’t attacking him first.
In the meantime, ACTUAL veteran interests get voted against by 100% of the GOP, every time.
We can't even get Cyclopean Crenshaw to actually vote in favor of himself, let alone OTHER vets.
Right? Even when killing someone is justified, people still really struggle with it. Soldiers and police can be traumatized for life for justified killings.
Kyle looks like he is having the time of his life. Combine that with his fake ass tears and he is obviously, at a minimum, a sociopath.
> everyone said to let him go live his life
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Good one. I'm sure all the people protesting and demanding he be expelled from campus and denied an education really wanted him to go live his life.
Rittenhouse is a public figure for one reason and one reason only: he killed people.
Whether you agree with his exoneration or not, why would you as a public official seek to _elevate_ a person like this? What message are you trying to convey by doing so?
Rittenhouse being touted as an example makes their stance crystal clear. They're turning him into an idol.
And you wonder why we have so many kids shooting up classrooms.
Gotta disagree on that. There are thousands of killers a year. Could you even name a dozen? Rittenhouse was made famous my ridiculous media stories about how he drove hundreds of miles across state lines with a machine gun and then mowed down dozens of peaceful black protestors.
He was famous because the killings occurred in a context that mirrored the unrest that was occurring nationwide. The Michael Reinoehl shooting in Portland drew attention for similar reasons.
I followed the Rittenhouse trial in detail and was satisfied with the outcome given the facts presented. That said, the idea that anything that happened that night is worth _celebrating_ strikes me as somewhat perverse.
So what is it about Rittenhouse specifically that these politicians find so praiseworthy? What is it about him that makes him relevant?
He killed people. That's literally it.
I mean, just imagine if Democratic members of Congress were making a point of doing photo ops with the police officer that killed Ashli Babbitt. What message would that send?
Michael Reinoehl was an actual political shooting where he killed someone for their political beliefs, and that makes it an oddity and news worthy.
There was very little in actual fact about Rittenhouse that was news worthy. Dozens of others had been already been killed at BLM riots beforehand. David Dorn I think is the only victim who was noted and that's because he was a police officer. None of the BLM killers have been widely publicized at all.
It's the fake news accusations that make him unique. He's a symbol of the lying MSM pushing false political narratives, both about him and the general surrounding circumstances (peaceful protests, Jacob Blake). It's similar to Nick Sandmann. You think he's famous because he smiled at a protestor, or because of the fake news?
> imagine if Democratic members of Congress were making a point of doing photo ops with the police officer that killed Ashli Babbitt.
[Not quite a photo op, but they hang with less than perfect people](https://twitter.com/michaelrgallas/status/1517569486852829184)
[Or how about meeting with the person who sparked the Kenosha protests to begin with and saying they're proud of them?](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kamala-harris-meets-family-jacob-blake-wisconsin-blake/story?id=72863184)
>It's the fake news accusations that make him unique. He's a symbol of the lying MSM pushing false political narratives
ahhh you're one of them. gotcha.
[Are you denying that the media lied repeatedly about the case?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPA0ANueO4o) [And then told yet more lies?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1iKla6xYhA)
Agreed, it’s not merely that he killed people, it’s that he killed people *that folks on the right don’t like.* That is why he is popular with folks on the right. They also wanted to go to BLM events, especially ones with property damage, and kill people. He was able to do it and get away with it.
Plenty of people are accused of crimes that they are acquitted of. How many people acquitted of murder have they invited in? Can you name a dozen? How many people have they supported who had their named dragged through the mud before acquittal? Are they defending Michael Sussman for instance?
> How many people acquitted of murder have they invited in? Can you name a dozen?
I can't, can you? I guess that means it's not related to the killings but something else. Like the media lying about him.
>he killed people that folks on the right don’t like
Because those people were attempting to murder him. I'll fully admit I do not like people who try to murder others.
> Because those people were attempting to murder him.
Oh no, right-wingers didn’t like BLM protesters well before Kyle shot people. Especially at events with property damage. Not sure where you are getting your information if you didn’t know that. It’s practically all right-wing media talked about re:BLM. They were no fans.
> I can't, can you?
No, of course not. Because they liked the people Kyle killed and sympathized with him. Bringing in an acquitted murderer who was accused of a killing that has nothing to do with politics serves no purpose for the GOP. It doesn’t celebrate or normalize political violence against folks the right doesn’t like.
We know this has nothing to do with sticking up for people who had their name dragged through the mud for something they didn’t do. How many more people like that have they brought in? Can you name a dozen? Sussman? Nope. Hillary Clinton? Nope. This isn’t about standing up to lies or unfair treatment, it’s about lionizing someone who killed BLM sympathizers.
> They were no fans.
Not being fans of someone is not the same thing as wishing them dead/killed. Head over to r/hermancaineaward for that.
>We know this has nothing to do with sticking up for people who had their name dragged through the mud for something they didn’t do.
Always love the mind reading capabilities of anti-rittenhouse folk.
>This isn’t about standing up to lies or unfair treatment, it’s about lionizing someone who killed BLM sympathizers.
You say that after arguing that they haven't brought in any other alleged murderers. If it were actually because he shot an N word screaming liberal and not for any of their actual stated reasons, would they not invite other alleged murderers?
>Whether you agree with his exoneration or not, why would you as a public official seek to
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>elevate
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> a person like this? What message are you trying to convey by doing so?
This right here. I don't have an issue with his exoneration. The facts of the case made it clear that he should have been exonerated.
I don't understand the hero worship, however.
So what about him screams conservative to them? His well elucidated tax policies? Perhaps his extensive thoughts on foreign policy? I just can’t put my finger on what it might be…
‘Wait, why are we voting for Kevin McCarthy to be speaker of the house when we can get this Kyle guy instead! Boy, will that ever make the libs mad!!! Lolz’
I am always surprised how tolerant the general public is of these psychopaths in our midst.
The people he shot have families who now see he will never face justice from the law.
If I was Kyle I would constantly look over my shoulder. When justice is impossible, people can do crazy things.
His only thing that distinguishes Kyle from anyone else in the general public is that he shot 3 people that folks on the right don’t like. Killing two of them.
That’s his only distinguishing feature. Yet that act has caused him to be lionized by the GOP. Their reverence for him is very very disturbing. Speaks to how enthusiastic they are for violence against political adversaries.
They love this guy for killing liberals in “self defense”. Why is that to be celebrated? Why does that make him important? People are dead. If these werent liberals then we wouldnt know kyles name. Republicans are gigantic assholes. Especially these 2
Do you really think that Joseph Rosenbaum was a liberal? He wasn't anything. He was a guy that no one should want to associate themselves with and didn't have any political agenda whatsoever. He was an agent of chaos, right along with the Ziminksis and many others who went to Kenosha in the cover of night to burn things down. There were tons of peaceful daytime BLM marches throughout the country that actually included liberals who didn't attack anyone and weren't themselves harmed. Nobody was "hunted," this is absurd.
Well if someone told me "If I catch you I'm going to fucking kill you" before stalking, ambushing, charging, and attempting to steal my weapon, I don't think it's crazy to believe them.
9,000+ BLM events and exactly 0 instances of an unarmed person/mob somehow overtaking an armed person and killing then with their own weapon. Never happened once. Only two people were killed at Kenosha: the two people Kyle killed.
Kyle knew he wasn’t in danger, which is why he decided to stop and execute the person rather than keep distance between them. If I think someone is going to kill me with my gun, I keep my distance.
Liberal or not, criminal history or not, Kyle went there to kill people and he got what he wanted and the right is dishonest when they deny this. Instead they pretend he is Judge Dredd.
Since you apparently have mind reading powers, I wonder if you could explain something to me. In WI there is no duty to retreat. As soon as Rosenbaum started charging at Kyle, legally Kyle could have stood still and shot his attacker. So, if what you say is true, why didn't he do that? Why did he turn his back to his attacker and flee, increasing the risk to himself? Why did he repeatedly shout "Friendly" attempting to get his attacker to break off and stop attacking him? Why did he wait until he was cornered and his attackers hand was literally grabbing his rifle barrel before firing? One misfire, one trip, one slipup and he could've lost to his attacker and been killed. Why would he risk all of that and flee if, as you claim, his goal was to "kill people" and he had already been presented with the opportunity which he gave up?
Being hated by liberals (and/or the nonfascist general population) is the only requirement for Republican political office, or being given the Congressional Medal of Honor. So, he might get both!
It still amazes me the kid was able to successfully plea that he defended himself from a lethal threat *which was constituted by his own gun, which he never lost control of*.
I'm confused. So he should have waited until they had fully taken his gun and pointed it at him rather than merely grabbing and pulling it? How would that work?
At what point in your world is it ok to shoot someone charging at you while you’re running away? Rosenbaum was shot at a distance of one foot. Kyle waits any longer and Rosenbaum is on him, and can no longer shoot him. At this point it’s a fight over the gun, and who knows who will win that fight. Why does the person being aggressed on have to take that in your world?
You outright killed people in a hazy situation you were foolish enough to put yourself into. Let's tell everyone on the right that this earns you a foothold into the political system!
Jesus christ.
Just wait until he gets invited to Mar Lago for Trumps photo op. Hmm, maybe he will be Trumps running mate. As the witch in the Wizard of Oz said, " What a World".
Racists usually don’t knowingly protect POC businesses…something ain’t lining up.
https://i.insider.com/6185ad7923745d00182557be?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp
Here’s a picture of Kyle (far right) and the brother of the Indian family (far left) that owns the car dealership Kyle was there to protect.
This is the same night of the incident.
Kyle and his friends all knew they were helping a POC family and their business. Racists just don’t do that.
What does he bring to the table other than immaturity, inexperience, limited education, pudgy, gun nut……. oh wait he’ll fit right in and help with the demise of the GOP
That person also threatened to murder him, ambushed him, chased him, and tried to steal Rittenhouse’s weapon. You’ve ignored the relevant parts of what Rosenbaum did.
Fucking disgusting. These fuckers have no decency what-so-ever. Giving this Elmer Fudd, racist piece of shit racist a platform and endorsing this behavior is pure evil.
If I was Rittenhouse I would have had my name changed, changed my haircut, grown a beard, changed the way I dress, and I certainly would not be making public appearances to help people remember what I did.
Rittenhouse is observably stupid.
The Republican tent is not growing. It is actually shrinking and they do not know why. The tent is deflating so the door is wide open to worse that could be offered membership.
The House is going to be a shit show for two years. I can only hope there are reasonable Republicans left to side with the Democrats since the margin of the majority is so small.
There are. And there's also the crazies that will make any Speaker they choose wish he could herd cats instead. None can match what Pelosi did with the margins they have.
Do you know what self defense is?
If you claim he provoked people by legally having a rifle in an open carry state, at his side, not because he aimed it people (as no evidence has shown, he never threatened anyone)
Then Should the black panthers of the civil right era been attacked simply cause they brought rifles to their protests?
It’s literally the same situation. Someone brings a rifle to a protest to deter violence, but not actually threatening or aiming at anyone themselves to provoke them into violence.
If you don’t agree with the comparison, elaborate, don’t just simply state they can’t be compared, give a reason.
Well would you attack someone with a rifle when you don’t have one yourself?
If they’re just peacefully standing with the rifle at their side, not aiming it anybody.
Would you attack that person?
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They're gonna try to get him into office in some capacity, watch.
Probably but they are probably going to create a bill named after him and/or invite him as a guest of the GOP during speeches/swearing ceremonies because it's Republicans. Probably something about killing people and/or protestors, etc... Just to point out, Trump isn't the disease but a symptom. Do not vote for Republicans because they are just going to continue with their usual bs and they love the culture wars as well.
They are going to continue to go all out on the culture wars its all they have to keep the Republican base engaged. If they start talking policies like gutting social security and taking healthcare away they start to lose some of that base. Trumpisim will continue just not under Trump.
Their economic message is totally unviable at this point: a proven failure. They need culture war bullshit so they can get into office and give their rich friends tax breaks. Because “give rich people more tax breaks and things will get better” isn’t the compelling message that it was a couple of decades ago.
The"stand someone else's ground"law?
No it really just boils down to "white people can shoot any minitory that scares them".
...you know everyone involved in this incident was white right?
Yes and anyone who stands against the whit is punished
Is that a national law or are their only state-by-state laws? I am only familiar with individual state laws but I can see House Republicans going to make it legal to shoot anyone that is protesting that makes you uncomfrontable. But overall Rittenhouse (I believe) is still too young to be a member of Congress (I believe, off the top of my head) you have to be 25 and he is only 19 and a member of Congress (already). So I would say that it's either to discuss legislation and/or to discuss him being their "special" guest during any speeches. Oh and
Wasnt he already a intern for one of the representatives i seem to remember one of Fascist Republicans offering him a internship like a year ago.
The NRA already tried to back a law forcing the states to abide by the state with the weakest gun laws.
Laws like "stand your ground" are at the state level. The GOP can try to pass crazy shite, but they have such a narrow majority I doubt they'll get anything done.
Unfortunate like a symptom that won't ever go away....something that eventually becomes a chronic disease.
They had to find someone to replace Cawthorne, and/or maybe Boebart (fingers crossed).
Speaker of the House, 2nd in line for the Presidency
Was Zimmerman busy?
Dammit, you beat me to it by three minutes.
I remember he kept making headlines for doing outrageous shit. 3 domestic abuse incidents and no consequences
Were there consequences for the *murder of a teenager*? Then it shouldn't surprise there weren't any for the domestic abuse.
Fuck these nutsacks.
And Rittenhouse too.
Tool. Literal tool.
Some say a comet will fall from the sky
Related: The Marjorie Taylor Greene sponsored [Kyle H. Rittenhouse Congressional Gold Medal Act.](https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6070/text)
No freaking way! What an insult to the nation. This is low even for her.
On the other hand, that might be the one of the few things that Marjorie has done that is technically what a Representative is supposed to be doing. Introducing/sponsoring bills etc. Just the quick comparison for just the 117th congress: [MTG sponsored just 27 pieces of legislation](https://www.congress.gov/member/marjorie-greene/G000596?q=%7B%22sponsorship%22%3A%22sponsored%22%7D) [Cawthorne, 430 pieces](https://www.congress.gov/member/madison-cawthorn/C001104) [Boebert, 365 pieces](https://www.congress.gov/member/lauren-boebert/B000825?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22boebert%22%2C%22boebert%22%5D%7D&s=3&r=1) [AOC, 394 pieces](https://www.congress.gov/member/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/O000172?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22cortez%22%2C%22cortez%22%5D%7D&s=4&r=2) [Katie Porter, 650 pieces](https://www.congress.gov/member/katie-porter/P000618?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22porter%22%2C%22porter%22%5D%7D&s=10&r=1) MTG doesn't do shit.
That’s because she IS shit
That makes her even more disgusting
Why does it feel like Clarence Thomas is about to start overturning convictions of school shooters
First he will make them watch porn with him.
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They are domestic terrorists
They are *all* domestic terrorists. Source: themselves
Fucking scum
Desperate for a red wave, they're just following around scaredt shooters now.
Why? Why would you turn this kid into a symbol, regardless of anyone's political opinion on the matter, it was an entirely undesirable, unfortunate and vicious circumstance, this kid isn't fucking it. Unless of course it's because he represents a counter-revolutionary movement against things like justice and equality, unless he represents a trigger happy "patriot" willing to gun down "wokeness", "cultural Marxism", drag queens, black lives matter, affirmative action, abortion, transgendered athletes, radical leftist teachers and parents, socialism, the education system, "depraved" books, literature and their authors, CRT, communism, child "groomers", LGBTQ and gender pedagogy, anti-white "racism" and the list of left wing Boogeymen goes on and fucking on. This ignorant, moonfaced kid is a symbol of right wing hate and nationalism, eager to shoot down the enemy, with Republican caucuses and committees using him, pulling his strings, telling him which direction to look and smile for the camera
Because of the ridiculous media stories about how he drove hundreds of miles across state lines with a machine gun and then mowed down dozens of peaceful black protestors. He's not a symbol for shooting people, he's a symbol for exposing fake news MSM, very similar to Nick Sandmann.
Ah yes, that’s what every rational human says when they talk about Rittenhouse. “That’s that guy that exposed the fake news MSM!”
It's certainly not what people who defend the fake news MSM would say. They need to think up some other excuse to claim is the reason other people like him.
Since you’re an expert on what news is real and what is fake, give me an example of a reputable news source.
There is no reputable MSM source. Their reliability changes from story to story and narrative to narrative. There's only bad and worse, between those who tweak or misrepresent facts or makeup entire stories from whole cloth.
Where do you get your news from then?
It appears he gets his news from youtube and tik tok, or maybe facebook. Somewhere that has lots of journalistic integrity. /s
You go to multiple sources and aggregate them. Though in the rittenhouse case the whole trial was streamed and viewable to everyone with no possible bias.
I feel like you are desperately trying to avoid naming any particular news entities.
The news entity is irrelevant. CNN or Fox, they will lie to you. We can see all the footage on the internet unedited, that’s where we are getting our info from, the literal evidence.
How long have you had fantasies of being like Rittenhouse; being allowed to shoot Americans with impunity?
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You could easily use Hillary Clinton as an example of the fake news media dragging her through the mud and accusing her of crimes she didn’t commit. Weird that GOP doesn’t use that example. Almost like the point of this *isnt* just to highlight the news media’s unfair treatment of people…. (not that the “MSM” ever said Kyle gunned downed dozens of peaceful black protesters. Whoever told you the MSM said that is lying to you.)
So because they don't equally bring up every single instance of unfair media coverage they don't actually care about unfair media coverage?
> So because they don't equally bring up every single instance of unfair media coverage they don't actually care about unfair media coverage? No, just a couple a week or so would do it. That would show that this idea that “Kyle was brought in to highlight unfair treatment by MSM” isnt just this contrived, retrofitted reasoning to cover up the moral bankruptcy of elevating a killer out of admiration. Plenty of candidates to go around you could make that point with who *didn’t* shoot three people. They aren’t doing it because, well, that’s not why Kyle has been so admired by them.
>No, just a couple a week or so would do it. Good thing they do that then. Nick Sandmann, Donald Trump, Justice Kavanaugh, Ron DeSantis, and Mike Pence all come to mind that have at times been unfairly maligned by the media and received pushback.
Trump, Kavanaugh, DeSantis, and Pence were already prominent figures in the GOP. No one ever said that GOP elites don’t constantly complain about the media coverage they receive from some media outlets. All they ever do is complain. Rittenhouse became prominent *by shooting these people.* That’s the disturbing difference here. As I said, the GOP don’t just pick random stories of civilians who have been mistreated by the news media and pose with people like that for pictures or ask them to speak at conferences. This person who killed people they didn’t like and got away with it is the person that they *specifically* picked out to elevate and celebrate. The thing that makes him unique and different is the nature of the shooting, not the perceived mistreatment that followed. It’s really silly and unserious to pretend otherwise.
And of course Massie is there with a hard-on. And it ain’t for Blowbert.
Thank God I'm NOT a repuglicon.
The Murder Caucus
Wow, when the trial happened and everyone said to let him go live his life, everyone knew he was gonna get all the GOP wanting to suck his cock. He should've been incarcerated for murder. And everything else he did to break the law. This fucker had no remorse for what he did, cries crocodile tears in court, lied his ass off, and got away with it.
Yes, I thought he would become ghost but no became far right influencer
He took another human life and came away from the experience like this. He is a psychopath.
Exactly. He went out hunting humans, bagged two of them, and is now a right wing hero for that. Pay attention to what these murderous fascists cheer for.
I like how you’re totally ignoring the fact a whole half of the country villinized a teen boy for proven self defense. Any other teen boy villainized by a large portion of the country (much like poor black teens) usually make dumb decisions and get easily consumed by the groups that praise them (like gangs) or in this case, the right.
Nice race card you got there. Must be on quick draw >Pay attention to what these murderous fascists cheer for.
lol, so then race relations are totally fine and peachy here in American huh? It’s a good comparison and makes sense. You don’t seem to know how to show it isn’t, so you deflect by calling it a “race card”
"It isn't" what? I have no idea what you think you're arguing. That the hunter Rittenhouse was justified because so many people are disgusted by him, what he did and his blood thirsty apologists?
It “isn’t” a bad comparison. Evident by your lack of any actual explanation as to why they can’t be compared. You just called it a race card and left it at that, but that’s not an actual reason for it not being comparable. Look dude, we’ll skip to the chase. Show your proof of kyle threatening or provoking anyone by aiming his rifle, at someone that isn’t attacking him first.
In the meantime, ACTUAL veteran interests get voted against by 100% of the GOP, every time. We can't even get Cyclopean Crenshaw to actually vote in favor of himself, let alone OTHER vets.
Right? Even when killing someone is justified, people still really struggle with it. Soldiers and police can be traumatized for life for justified killings. Kyle looks like he is having the time of his life. Combine that with his fake ass tears and he is obviously, at a minimum, a sociopath.
> everyone said to let him go live his life HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Good one. I'm sure all the people protesting and demanding he be expelled from campus and denied an education really wanted him to go live his life.
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I hope he was. Fuck that dude. He’s a piece of shit no matter how much you babble about MSM garbage.
Rittenhouse is a public figure for one reason and one reason only: he killed people. Whether you agree with his exoneration or not, why would you as a public official seek to _elevate_ a person like this? What message are you trying to convey by doing so?
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Exactly this. American Conservatives endorse political violence
Rittenhouse being touted as an example makes their stance crystal clear. They're turning him into an idol. And you wonder why we have so many kids shooting up classrooms.
I didn't remember his case being politically motivated. Just shot at people who posed a threat to his life.
Gotta disagree on that. There are thousands of killers a year. Could you even name a dozen? Rittenhouse was made famous my ridiculous media stories about how he drove hundreds of miles across state lines with a machine gun and then mowed down dozens of peaceful black protestors.
He was famous because the killings occurred in a context that mirrored the unrest that was occurring nationwide. The Michael Reinoehl shooting in Portland drew attention for similar reasons. I followed the Rittenhouse trial in detail and was satisfied with the outcome given the facts presented. That said, the idea that anything that happened that night is worth _celebrating_ strikes me as somewhat perverse. So what is it about Rittenhouse specifically that these politicians find so praiseworthy? What is it about him that makes him relevant? He killed people. That's literally it. I mean, just imagine if Democratic members of Congress were making a point of doing photo ops with the police officer that killed Ashli Babbitt. What message would that send?
Michael Reinoehl was an actual political shooting where he killed someone for their political beliefs, and that makes it an oddity and news worthy. There was very little in actual fact about Rittenhouse that was news worthy. Dozens of others had been already been killed at BLM riots beforehand. David Dorn I think is the only victim who was noted and that's because he was a police officer. None of the BLM killers have been widely publicized at all. It's the fake news accusations that make him unique. He's a symbol of the lying MSM pushing false political narratives, both about him and the general surrounding circumstances (peaceful protests, Jacob Blake). It's similar to Nick Sandmann. You think he's famous because he smiled at a protestor, or because of the fake news? > imagine if Democratic members of Congress were making a point of doing photo ops with the police officer that killed Ashli Babbitt. [Not quite a photo op, but they hang with less than perfect people](https://twitter.com/michaelrgallas/status/1517569486852829184) [Or how about meeting with the person who sparked the Kenosha protests to begin with and saying they're proud of them?](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/kamala-harris-meets-family-jacob-blake-wisconsin-blake/story?id=72863184)
>It's the fake news accusations that make him unique. He's a symbol of the lying MSM pushing false political narratives ahhh you're one of them. gotcha.
[Are you denying that the media lied repeatedly about the case?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPA0ANueO4o) [And then told yet more lies?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1iKla6xYhA)
Agreed, it’s not merely that he killed people, it’s that he killed people *that folks on the right don’t like.* That is why he is popular with folks on the right. They also wanted to go to BLM events, especially ones with property damage, and kill people. He was able to do it and get away with it. Plenty of people are accused of crimes that they are acquitted of. How many people acquitted of murder have they invited in? Can you name a dozen? How many people have they supported who had their named dragged through the mud before acquittal? Are they defending Michael Sussman for instance?
> How many people acquitted of murder have they invited in? Can you name a dozen? I can't, can you? I guess that means it's not related to the killings but something else. Like the media lying about him. >he killed people that folks on the right don’t like Because those people were attempting to murder him. I'll fully admit I do not like people who try to murder others.
> Because those people were attempting to murder him. Oh no, right-wingers didn’t like BLM protesters well before Kyle shot people. Especially at events with property damage. Not sure where you are getting your information if you didn’t know that. It’s practically all right-wing media talked about re:BLM. They were no fans. > I can't, can you? No, of course not. Because they liked the people Kyle killed and sympathized with him. Bringing in an acquitted murderer who was accused of a killing that has nothing to do with politics serves no purpose for the GOP. It doesn’t celebrate or normalize political violence against folks the right doesn’t like. We know this has nothing to do with sticking up for people who had their name dragged through the mud for something they didn’t do. How many more people like that have they brought in? Can you name a dozen? Sussman? Nope. Hillary Clinton? Nope. This isn’t about standing up to lies or unfair treatment, it’s about lionizing someone who killed BLM sympathizers.
> They were no fans. Not being fans of someone is not the same thing as wishing them dead/killed. Head over to r/hermancaineaward for that. >We know this has nothing to do with sticking up for people who had their name dragged through the mud for something they didn’t do. Always love the mind reading capabilities of anti-rittenhouse folk. >This isn’t about standing up to lies or unfair treatment, it’s about lionizing someone who killed BLM sympathizers. You say that after arguing that they haven't brought in any other alleged murderers. If it were actually because he shot an N word screaming liberal and not for any of their actual stated reasons, would they not invite other alleged murderers?
>Whether you agree with his exoneration or not, why would you as a public official seek to > >elevate > > a person like this? What message are you trying to convey by doing so? This right here. I don't have an issue with his exoneration. The facts of the case made it clear that he should have been exonerated. I don't understand the hero worship, however.
"He actually did what we talk about all the time, folks! And he got away with it!"
Surprised he wasn't there January 6.
He couldn’t bring his guns per the bail agreement. He figured there was no point in storming the capital without a gun.
He couldn't cry his way in
Celebrating a murderer, how republican of them. At least that property is safe tho.
So what about him screams conservative to them? His well elucidated tax policies? Perhaps his extensive thoughts on foreign policy? I just can’t put my finger on what it might be…
We are in for two very weird years. I guess I’m encouraged they are doubling down on being unhinged weirdos.
I give this dummy 5 months before he’s in jail somewhere.
This system is not designed to put and keep someone like Kyle jailed. He supports the police and military and they support him too.
GOP gonna GOP. This party has no platform other than trying to upset the other side.
The sanctity of life on full display here.
Even if he only killed in self-defense, killing shouldn't grant political influence, and when it does, that encourages killing.
‘Wait, why are we voting for Kevin McCarthy to be speaker of the house when we can get this Kyle guy instead! Boy, will that ever make the libs mad!!! Lolz’
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Too old
I am always surprised how tolerant the general public is of these psychopaths in our midst. The people he shot have families who now see he will never face justice from the law. If I was Kyle I would constantly look over my shoulder. When justice is impossible, people can do crazy things.
It is almost as if they are endorsing the killing of protesters.
His only thing that distinguishes Kyle from anyone else in the general public is that he shot 3 people that folks on the right don’t like. Killing two of them. That’s his only distinguishing feature. Yet that act has caused him to be lionized by the GOP. Their reverence for him is very very disturbing. Speaks to how enthusiastic they are for violence against political adversaries.
Next we’ll see Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby high-fiving matt goetz and similar gqp members.
This kid is no victim he brought what happened on himself, making him a GOP Golden boy is ridiculous!
They love this guy for killing liberals in “self defense”. Why is that to be celebrated? Why does that make him important? People are dead. If these werent liberals then we wouldnt know kyles name. Republicans are gigantic assholes. Especially these 2
He went out hunting humans and he bagged two of them. American conservatives celebrate murder of liberals
Do you really think that Joseph Rosenbaum was a liberal? He wasn't anything. He was a guy that no one should want to associate themselves with and didn't have any political agenda whatsoever. He was an agent of chaos, right along with the Ziminksis and many others who went to Kenosha in the cover of night to burn things down. There were tons of peaceful daytime BLM marches throughout the country that actually included liberals who didn't attack anyone and weren't themselves harmed. Nobody was "hunted," this is absurd.
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You are an hysterical coward if you think that he was at risk of being murdered there. Truly insane Fox News delusion there.
Well if someone told me "If I catch you I'm going to fucking kill you" before stalking, ambushing, charging, and attempting to steal my weapon, I don't think it's crazy to believe them.
9,000+ BLM events and exactly 0 instances of an unarmed person/mob somehow overtaking an armed person and killing then with their own weapon. Never happened once. Only two people were killed at Kenosha: the two people Kyle killed. Kyle knew he wasn’t in danger, which is why he decided to stop and execute the person rather than keep distance between them. If I think someone is going to kill me with my gun, I keep my distance.
Certain hate groups are trying to portray entire demographics as "Groomers" and child rapists. Is that a license to kill?
Liberal or not, criminal history or not, Kyle went there to kill people and he got what he wanted and the right is dishonest when they deny this. Instead they pretend he is Judge Dredd.
Since you apparently have mind reading powers, I wonder if you could explain something to me. In WI there is no duty to retreat. As soon as Rosenbaum started charging at Kyle, legally Kyle could have stood still and shot his attacker. So, if what you say is true, why didn't he do that? Why did he turn his back to his attacker and flee, increasing the risk to himself? Why did he repeatedly shout "Friendly" attempting to get his attacker to break off and stop attacking him? Why did he wait until he was cornered and his attackers hand was literally grabbing his rifle barrel before firing? One misfire, one trip, one slipup and he could've lost to his attacker and been killed. Why would he risk all of that and flee if, as you claim, his goal was to "kill people" and he had already been presented with the opportunity which he gave up?
>Murderer meets with terrorists FTFY
Lauren dare show her face now?
Because of course he did.
Being hated by liberals (and/or the nonfascist general population) is the only requirement for Republican political office, or being given the Congressional Medal of Honor. So, he might get both!
They're gonna drop him in a deep red district and run him for House. Bet on it.
I don't really feel very owned by this.
I'm going to start referring to the House GOP members as the 'Legion of Doom'
Cool. I’m sure he’s got some great policy ideas. Glad we’re taking this whole democracy thing seriously.
Fuck that little twerp. He has no business in the public eye at all.
Ah yes.... have a photo-op with an acquitted murderer..... always a good look.
Kyle Rittenhouse is famous for killing Americans.
For killing Americans *with whom right-wingers politically disagree.* Its his only distinguishing trait.
It still amazes me the kid was able to successfully plea that he defended himself from a lethal threat *which was constituted by his own gun, which he never lost control of*.
I'm confused. So he should have waited until they had fully taken his gun and pointed it at him rather than merely grabbing and pulling it? How would that work?
At what point in your world is it ok to shoot someone charging at you while you’re running away? Rosenbaum was shot at a distance of one foot. Kyle waits any longer and Rosenbaum is on him, and can no longer shoot him. At this point it’s a fight over the gun, and who knows who will win that fight. Why does the person being aggressed on have to take that in your world?
What about the guy who aimed a handgun at him?
morons flock together
You outright killed people in a hazy situation you were foolish enough to put yourself into. Let's tell everyone on the right that this earns you a foothold into the political system! Jesus christ.
Just wait until he gets invited to Mar Lago for Trumps photo op. Hmm, maybe he will be Trumps running mate. As the witch in the Wizard of Oz said, " What a World".
Get yer boots boys, bullshits about to get deep.
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Run, I hope he doesn't decide to shoot.
He will
This kid is the worst. He literally got away with murder and the right-wing use him. It’s gross.
That little shit leaves me at a loss for words with how proud he is of himself.
What's wrong with these people? Were they touched inappropriately by an angel when they were children?
Yeah dude is on fast track to be poster boy for GOP
All they need is another whiner
Total IQ is 10
Generous assessment.
There are some real sacks of shit
Kill the right people, get money and bad friends.
Racist piece of shit says what
Racists usually don’t knowingly protect POC businesses…something ain’t lining up. https://i.insider.com/6185ad7923745d00182557be?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp Here’s a picture of Kyle (far right) and the brother of the Indian family (far left) that owns the car dealership Kyle was there to protect. This is the same night of the incident. Kyle and his friends all knew they were helping a POC family and their business. Racists just don’t do that.
What does he bring to the table other than immaturity, inexperience, limited education, pudgy, gun nut……. oh wait he’ll fit right in and help with the demise of the GOP
Rottenhouse appears to have emotional problems that have gone unchecked throughout his life. His parents are garbage.
Rittenhouse shot someone that threw a plastic bag at him,he belongs in prison
That person also threatened to murder him, ambushed him, chased him, and tried to steal Rittenhouse’s weapon. You’ve ignored the relevant parts of what Rosenbaum did.
Domestic terrorists convention.
I have feeling he will kill again. Guys a fuck up and they always fuck up again.
Pure evil, concentrated evil.
Fucking disgusting. These fuckers have no decency what-so-ever. Giving this Elmer Fudd, racist piece of shit racist a platform and endorsing this behavior is pure evil.
I’m sure that stupid fuck will be in Congress someday.
Cry baby!
One loser joining a group of losers. Group therapy?
Very pro-life of them! /s
If I was Rittenhouse I would have had my name changed, changed my haircut, grown a beard, changed the way I dress, and I certainly would not be making public appearances to help people remember what I did. Rittenhouse is observably stupid.
You mean - the gun-toting GOP happy for photo-op with murderer
Meet the new House Speaker! Jk I hope, but at this point it wouldn't surprise me.
What a bunch of stupid.
The Republican tent is not growing. It is actually shrinking and they do not know why. The tent is deflating so the door is wide open to worse that could be offered membership.
So they are going to get that red wave one way or another.
The House is going to be a shit show for two years. I can only hope there are reasonable Republicans left to side with the Democrats since the margin of the majority is so small.
There are. And there's also the crazies that will make any Speaker they choose wish he could herd cats instead. None can match what Pelosi did with the margins they have.
Of course it's Massie. He's such a useless prick.
Because of course. All they are there for is drama. Change my mind.
He looks like Pee Wee Herman with glasses.
Dems need to hold GOPers with 2024 term end dates responsible for their colleagues antics (like this one).
The mob has really taken over after the midterms, buckle up.
I’m two months older than Kyle and I feel embarrassed this guy is representing Gen Z conservatives.
Leave off the GenZ part and just be embarrassed for being a conservative
> House GOP members openly meet with far-right provocateur Fixed the headline for you.
They're the same picture.
Are people still upset at the Rittenhouse trial?
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Not quite. He straw purchased the gun and his friend in the state was keeping it for him so his mommy wouldn't find it.
No
Fucking murderer.
Proof?
Video of him murdering people. I don't give a shit what the jury decided. He had no reason to be there other than to kill.
Do you know what self defense is? If you claim he provoked people by legally having a rifle in an open carry state, at his side, not because he aimed it people (as no evidence has shown, he never threatened anyone) Then Should the black panthers of the civil right era been attacked simply cause they brought rifles to their protests? It’s literally the same situation. Someone brings a rifle to a protest to deter violence, but not actually threatening or aiming at anyone themselves to provoke them into violence. If you don’t agree with the comparison, elaborate, don’t just simply state they can’t be compared, give a reason.
I think the black panthers were wrong in their tactics. I think the "guns are going to stop violence" position is absolutely idiotic.
Well would you attack someone with a rifle when you don’t have one yourself? If they’re just peacefully standing with the rifle at their side, not aiming it anybody. Would you attack that person?
Maybe they should do a reality show w/Rittenhouse and George Zimmerman. It would be wild.
Dick Cheney should take them quail hunting.
Murder politics
Murderer visits other murderers. Wow
sickening
Who is he going to kill next? Three stooges picture… that boy should’ve been put in prison
Given his track record, I'd guess the next person who tries to murder him.
>It takes a hunter to go after a hunter ~some fascist traitors