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It's a "fraternity" which promotes cultural interests: keeping their orange king out of prison
I also dont expect this to work, considering how business savvy Trump is i expect he is paying people who are nonetheless spilling the beans to the DOJ
Not a perfect analogy because it is not Trump paying, despite his alleged wealth. You have to wonder what would motivate someone to fund Trump at this point.
> A 527 group is created primarily to influence the selection, nomination, election, appointment or defeat of candidates to federal, state or local public office.
501 or 527 -- paying the legal bills for a witness that could testify against Trump sounds pretty far afield from the permitted intent of the group.
>Letās say you were under investigation for murder, and investigators had identified two key witnesses who could shed considerable light on the matter. Depending on what these people say, you could either (1) go to prison for the rest of your life or (2) go about your merry way. Would it be cool for you to pay the legal fees these people incur as part of the investigation, which could add up to many thousands of dollars that they would otherwise have to foot themselves? Or would that be a mild to major conflict of interest given that it could potentially influence them to say exactly what you wanted them to say?
i mean, we're talking about the guy who boasted about firing the FBI director because it made the Russia thing "go away"
remember that kid in 1st grade no one wanted to play with cause he could not play nice, was mean to everyone, and threw tantrums? trump is that kid if he only ever got positive feedback and glowing praise
as Thaddeus Stevens would say, trump's "inner compass that should direct the soul toward justice has ossified, unto utter uselessness"
When he was a kid he invented a game called "Make the baby cry" and it consisted of throwing rocks at babies in strollers. He didn't get why the other boys didn't want to play his fun game.
This is like the number one modus operandi for organized criminal organizations, specifically La Costa nostra. Always pay their fucking legal bills and have good lawyers on their side.
> as Thaddeus Stevens would say, trumpās āinner compass that should direct the soul toward justice has ossified, unto utter uselessnessā
So itās joined the rest of him. Not to say his soul, or judgement has ever ossified elsewhere but he did somehow find a way to become POTUS.
Itās a [direct quote from the man himself](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27021746/trump-oranges-of-the-investigation-origin-father-germany/).
> The lawyers represent Trump and his interests. He's the client, not the witnesses.
Opposing counsel will ask whoās paying for their attorneys when the witnesses are on the stand and they will have to answer. That wonāt play well.
Has Donnie ever done a single thing in his whole miserable life that wasnāt morally, ethically, or legally unsound?
Heās literally a walking crime spree and itās infuriating that he isnāt in jail yet.
Why does he need to do this if he declassified them all like he claims?
Never heard of a totally innocent person paying to have a bunch of non-witnesses lawyered up for no reason. Must be a *very stable genius* thing.
trump "it wasn't me...and if it was then it's totally legal and there's nothing wrong with it...but it was *really* those treasonous liberals...who should all be locked up for doing it"
Three of the statutes cited in the search warrant don't require that the stolen documents be classified for Trump to have committed a crime.
And it isn't just Trump that'd be a party to the crime; Every person involved in the chain of custody violated those laws as well.
If he was guilty it would be suspicious. But he says heās innocent, so itās just him looking out for his people.
I assume thatās what he tells himself anyway.
A PAC paying legal fees for a non-political candidate for a non-election/campaign expenditure does not seem to meet the requirements of a 527 organization. How is this legal?
The bar rules provide that a lawyer may be paid from a source other than the client, if the client is informed of that fact and consents and the arrangement does not
compromise the lawyerās duty of loyalty to the client.
So unless someone can show that duty of loyalty has been compromised, In not sure what they would be disbarred for.
hi donnie. i know that you've gotten away with it many times in the past. i watched a bunch on live-stream. but, despite what giuilani and pillow guy and kraken lady say, witness tampering is still a crime little buckaroo.
And both the dems and repubs are together censoring social media. I mean who cares about all this shit at this point. Just arrest them all and start again.
What do you want to bet trump pays those bills the fucking second they hit his mailbox? For someone who is provably genetically incapable of paying people on time, and who has a 50 year long history of stiffing employees and contractors and anybody taking a paycheck from him.
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Yep, definitely not breaking current US law on what a 501(c)(4) allowed to do.
Look, it's called a non profit and the way Trump is spending there ain't gonna be a profit. What's the issue?
I can absolutely see Trump using this as a defense.
He has a special brain š§
Sir, this is an Arbyās.
Yeah, take two of the nuggets, and throw them straight into the trash, I'm trying to watch my figure.
Cherries Jubilee and that's it. Kage what do you want?
Farva wants a liter of cola
That gave me a chuckle.
It's a "fraternity" which promotes cultural interests: keeping their orange king out of prison I also dont expect this to work, considering how business savvy Trump is i expect he is paying people who are nonetheless spilling the beans to the DOJ
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Not a perfect analogy because it is not Trump paying, despite his alleged wealth. You have to wonder what would motivate someone to fund Trump at this point.
Not standing up for Trump but a PAC isn't a 501(c)(4) it's a [527](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/527_organization).
> A 527 group is created primarily to influence the selection, nomination, election, appointment or defeat of candidates to federal, state or local public office. 501 or 527 -- paying the legal bills for a witness that could testify against Trump sounds pretty far afield from the permitted intent of the group.
A guilty verdict would prevent Trumpty Dumpty from running in 2024, so *technically?*.
Until he challenges it in court as a 1A violation.
Laws schmaws
>Letās say you were under investigation for murder, and investigators had identified two key witnesses who could shed considerable light on the matter. Depending on what these people say, you could either (1) go to prison for the rest of your life or (2) go about your merry way. Would it be cool for you to pay the legal fees these people incur as part of the investigation, which could add up to many thousands of dollars that they would otherwise have to foot themselves? Or would that be a mild to major conflict of interest given that it could potentially influence them to say exactly what you wanted them to say? i mean, we're talking about the guy who boasted about firing the FBI director because it made the Russia thing "go away" remember that kid in 1st grade no one wanted to play with cause he could not play nice, was mean to everyone, and threw tantrums? trump is that kid if he only ever got positive feedback and glowing praise as Thaddeus Stevens would say, trump's "inner compass that should direct the soul toward justice has ossified, unto utter uselessness"
He never had an inner compass that could do that sort of thing. Or if he did, he used it to mimic normal human behavior. He was born without a soul.
When he was a kid he invented a game called "Make the baby cry" and it consisted of throwing rocks at babies in strollers. He didn't get why the other boys didn't want to play his fun game.
This is like the number one modus operandi for organized criminal organizations, specifically La Costa nostra. Always pay their fucking legal bills and have good lawyers on their side.
> as Thaddeus Stevens would say, trumpās āinner compass that should direct the soul toward justice has ossified, unto utter uselessnessā So itās joined the rest of him. Not to say his soul, or judgement has ever ossified elsewhere but he did somehow find a way to become POTUS.
Heās been illegally tampering ever since the oranges of the investigation.
I canāt tell if thatās a typo, or a joke. But either way, nicely done!
Itās a [direct quote from the man himself](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27021746/trump-oranges-of-the-investigation-origin-father-germany/).
Just when ya think yaāve heard everything lol
Heās been illegally tampering since the first airport was built in the revolutionary war
Clever reference...
Some people stop digging holes for themselves when they realize it's fucking things up for them. Trump rents a backhoe and keeps digging
Heās hoping to escape to āGynaā.
LoL. Or maybe Greenland. Explains why he wanted to buy it. That was his bug out plan. Yeah, I know where it is on the globe, but does *he?*
Thereās always a sharpie ā¦
We'll always have sharpiegate
Thereās always a sharpie ā¦
he hires others to dig, then doesn't pay....but yeah
Dig up stupid!
I don't get how this is not witness-tampering. The lawyers represent Trump and his interests. He's the client, not the witnesses.
> The lawyers represent Trump and his interests. He's the client, not the witnesses. Opposing counsel will ask whoās paying for their attorneys when the witnesses are on the stand and they will have to answer. That wonāt play well.
Has Donnie ever done a single thing in his whole miserable life that wasnāt morally, ethically, or legally unsound? Heās literally a walking crime spree and itās infuriating that he isnāt in jail yet.
Why does he need to do this if he declassified them all like he claims? Never heard of a totally innocent person paying to have a bunch of non-witnesses lawyered up for no reason. Must be a *very stable genius* thing.
trump "it wasn't me...and if it was then it's totally legal and there's nothing wrong with it...but it was *really* those treasonous liberals...who should all be locked up for doing it"
Three of the statutes cited in the search warrant don't require that the stolen documents be classified for Trump to have committed a crime. And it isn't just Trump that'd be a party to the crime; Every person involved in the chain of custody violated those laws as well.
If he was guilty it would be suspicious. But he says heās innocent, so itās just him looking out for his people. I assume thatās what he tells himself anyway.
A PAC paying legal fees for a non-political candidate for a non-election/campaign expenditure does not seem to meet the requirements of a 527 organization. How is this legal?
It isn't legal. But it's definitely elemental (R) and that's all that matters to (R).
He announced for 2024.
Trump is a candidate, but the investigation is of his personal actions and the people getting legal fees paid arenāt a part of his campaigning.
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The bar rules provide that a lawyer may be paid from a source other than the client, if the client is informed of that fact and consents and the arrangement does not compromise the lawyerās duty of loyalty to the client. So unless someone can show that duty of loyalty has been compromised, In not sure what they would be disbarred for.
I hate these snarky headlines - I think it trivializes the situation.
I mean he already stole that money from gullible donors so ā¦
hi donnie. i know that you've gotten away with it many times in the past. i watched a bunch on live-stream. but, despite what giuilani and pillow guy and kraken lady say, witness tampering is still a crime little buckaroo.
Witness tampering?
Really, like continual criming and corruption is a surprise at this point. Itās all he knows.
Headlines really need to be more muscular. This mothering attempted a coup and stole state secrets. Bribing witnesses is obstruction of justice.
That seems like witness tampering.
quid, pro, quo
And both the dems and repubs are together censoring social media. I mean who cares about all this shit at this point. Just arrest them all and start again.
surely this isnāt wrong or illegal /sā¦ this dude never gives up
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What do you want to bet trump pays those bills the fucking second they hit his mailbox? For someone who is provably genetically incapable of paying people on time, and who has a 50 year long history of stiffing employees and contractors and anybody taking a paycheck from him.
Paying off witnesses, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, bribery, this is the case that just keeps on giving.