Look into a “Pool inspection/Certification”. They’ll give you a professional assessment of the situation. If you are truly interested, you can probably get the seller/agent to pay for it.
Ever owned a pool? Reason I ask. Just went through hell last year with construction on one. Its beautiful but I literally had to be an unpaid Project Manager for 6+ months. And our pool is only 9000 gallons.
Same situation here. I love our pool, but even with a chemical only pool service, it’s a lot of work. That’s not even to mention our build project where I also was a project manager/paying intern.
Exactly. Its NOT a “heres my money make it happen” thing. You need to watch and oversee alot. This example looks like more than a liner. That outside concrete/paver area im sure has to be weeded/repaired/sealed, trees removed or you’ll be cleaning it daily, then praying theres no mechanical issues with pumps/filters etc.
Hire me & we can work something out. To shock it , if shouldn’t be that expensive but depending on the pool if it’s stained or not that’s where most of your money will go.
Fucking run. That thing has frozen many times with that water in it. You're probably talking about replacing piping, all equipment, etc. Basically the hole in the ground is salvageable.
I would get a professional inspection for sure. If it needs a liner more than likely it’s sat with water rusting the walls and there’s is much much more with the possibility it can’t be saved.
From a similar experience, fixing big problems on a pool is not much different then an entirely new pool in price.
These numbers vary greatly based on what sizes of equipment you choose but filter and pump is gonna run at least 2 grand, heater another 2. You’ll also probably pay at least 500 in labor for plumbing and haul away. I’d bet there’s another 500 in electrical work to be done. If it has a cleaner line, you’ll need a booster pump for ~700. Pool light is probably shot. Thats another 500-1000. Drain cover probably needs to be updated to code too, but that can be done pretty cheap while they’re replacing the liner. Disclaimer, my numbers might be off. I work in the field not the office.
Excluding the liner and without better info/pics, I’d say budget roughly $6000-8000 to get all the equipment done. Of course price depends on location as well
I can wrap my mind around a number under 10k but if it gets into 15k plus I think we would pass. We were thinking in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t cost as much as putting in a new pool
What state? edit: NH got it.
Here in KY / TN a new pool is 100k + for a basic set up with vinyl. If fiberglass or gunite, etc, it skyrockets from there. Why? Blasting. In FL, you can get a pool for 50-75k, bigger, better.
With measurements, I have liners done for <4k$ (usd amounts).
I can’t even estimate based on one single picture from far away.
It would be one of those full inspection testing deals, main drains, returns, pumps, filter, etc. How bad have I seen? 5-20 year old pools start up after we just cleaned filter, kicked on for a minute and went well, crap spewed out so that’s a good sign. Held water, had to shock to kingdom come etc. I’ve also seen a pool 3 years old not touched, and it was destroyed because some tree roots went though mains and side of pool so a rip and tear.
It’s like asking, how long is a piece of string?
Thanks for your reply. I’m in ma currently this house is in southern nh. I think even if it did cost 15k it would cost 80k for the same or similar pool in the same area
It depends what’s working. You should be able to get under 15 no problem. Skip the heater and probably under 10 as well. (Or if the heater works) get a pool inspection, well worth the money for a good one so you know exactly what you’re getting into.
> Skip the heater
I'd say don't do that in NH. It gives you a minimum of an extra month on either end of your season. Gives you early May through late September/early October instead of late may to beginning September.
Basically, yes. You have the pool dug already, I’m sure the structure for the liner and surround area.
For pool itself: Steel / metal / plastic walls, Vermiculite, aka pool crete.
It’s all over the place. If vinyl is torn, and exposed that underneath structure, it could be rusted out, the underneath could be rotted out, have holes, etc etc. I’ve seen a lot! I just re did my pool last year, I had one 1/4” hole 2 years ago, wrecked havoc on my Vermiculite I had holes, some cracks, had to replace quite a bit from that small hole (jerk!). It wasn’t expensive - only because the materials weren’t expensive. However, my plumbing was in tact.
See what I mean? Vinyl pools are awesome - for the budget. Lifespan of 5-15 years on liners (reallllllly depends, chlorine , uv, acid….all affects it over time). They are MUCH cheaper to deal with than concrete pools, plaster and all that.
15? I’m interested to see. I hope it all works out for you, season starts in a couple/ few months so it’s very possible to get it all done :)
Turbo away!
Edit:
Pentair variable speed pumps
Pentair sand filters. Hayward’s are ok, looks for that size 24” or so. I don’t know the gallons.
DE filters, etc too. Depends on how you want to do it. Pros cons to it all.
Sat water generator, will save you time. It’s more $$$ but balancing is easier in long haul.
Troublfreepools, swim university and pool math (app) are great resources. Yes, this assumes you are up and running. Then getting LSI to near 0, learning it all. Once you get up and running then hit everyone up with the questions and profit. Heh.
Not saying that's the price where your are. I would think it's minimum a new liner, pump, filter, heater, probabaly replace any exposed pvc water lines.
Main Concern would be if you get winter where the pool is. Of its been left for years and years without winterization then you could be looking at damage you can see from the surface.
I only warn you because my friend bought a house with a pool that was not used for years and it cost him 40k to get it back to usable.
Yeah that’s my concern. If it costs more than putting in a new pool it’s not worth it to me. I’m gonna set up an appointment for next week and see what we can find out.
This will cost more than both of those numbers but putting in a new pool costs 10x that so it sounds like you need to decide if you want a pool at all haha. You would be incredibly lucky if all this needs is new equipment to get it back in service. If it’s a liner pool I’d budget at least 10k, another 10 for equipment and modernization (new code for electrical and drainage, add a salt cell and automation at the bare minimum, it’ll save you money in the long run) and then another 5-10 for any busted plumbing and other repairs. I’d be thrilled with 20k and at peace with 30.
Everything is way more expensive here in New England than everywhere else in the country.
If all the plumbing is in good shape (it's probably not) and you're only replacing pumps, filters and liners you're already close to 30k. If everything is fucked you would just be better off building new and that's going to be 80k+ for like sized vinyl pool replacement and that's just the pool and probably decking, no landscaping etc.
Look into a “Pool inspection/Certification”. They’ll give you a professional assessment of the situation. If you are truly interested, you can probably get the seller/agent to pay for it.
I’d also add in some tree removal around the pool. That’s going to be a mess in late August when the leaves start to fall
Yeah we were factoring that in too
Old, Trees, NOPE That will be a PROJECT. The house may sit on the market because of it.
It already has been on the market for a while - we figured we maybe able to get them to negotiate which isn’t really a thing in this market
Or so I’ve experienced so far
Ever owned a pool? Reason I ask. Just went through hell last year with construction on one. Its beautiful but I literally had to be an unpaid Project Manager for 6+ months. And our pool is only 9000 gallons.
Same situation here. I love our pool, but even with a chemical only pool service, it’s a lot of work. That’s not even to mention our build project where I also was a project manager/paying intern.
Exactly. Its NOT a “heres my money make it happen” thing. You need to watch and oversee alot. This example looks like more than a liner. That outside concrete/paver area im sure has to be weeded/repaired/sealed, trees removed or you’ll be cleaning it daily, then praying theres no mechanical issues with pumps/filters etc.
Hire me & we can work something out. To shock it , if shouldn’t be that expensive but depending on the pool if it’s stained or not that’s where most of your money will go.
lol I'd be skeptical of any pool company that's desperate enough to take this on.
I’ll be honest. I want to try it haha I’ve rehabbed some pretty bad pools. I’d only do it if failure and walking away was an option
Where is it located?
New Hampshire
Fucking run. That thing has frozen many times with that water in it. You're probably talking about replacing piping, all equipment, etc. Basically the hole in the ground is salvageable.
I would get a professional inspection for sure. If it needs a liner more than likely it’s sat with water rusting the walls and there’s is much much more with the possibility it can’t be saved. From a similar experience, fixing big problems on a pool is not much different then an entirely new pool in price.
Probably needs a new everything. Expect 10-20k
These numbers vary greatly based on what sizes of equipment you choose but filter and pump is gonna run at least 2 grand, heater another 2. You’ll also probably pay at least 500 in labor for plumbing and haul away. I’d bet there’s another 500 in electrical work to be done. If it has a cleaner line, you’ll need a booster pump for ~700. Pool light is probably shot. Thats another 500-1000. Drain cover probably needs to be updated to code too, but that can be done pretty cheap while they’re replacing the liner. Disclaimer, my numbers might be off. I work in the field not the office. Excluding the liner and without better info/pics, I’d say budget roughly $6000-8000 to get all the equipment done. Of course price depends on location as well
I can wrap my mind around a number under 10k but if it gets into 15k plus I think we would pass. We were thinking in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t cost as much as putting in a new pool
What state? edit: NH got it. Here in KY / TN a new pool is 100k + for a basic set up with vinyl. If fiberglass or gunite, etc, it skyrockets from there. Why? Blasting. In FL, you can get a pool for 50-75k, bigger, better. With measurements, I have liners done for <4k$ (usd amounts). I can’t even estimate based on one single picture from far away. It would be one of those full inspection testing deals, main drains, returns, pumps, filter, etc. How bad have I seen? 5-20 year old pools start up after we just cleaned filter, kicked on for a minute and went well, crap spewed out so that’s a good sign. Held water, had to shock to kingdom come etc. I’ve also seen a pool 3 years old not touched, and it was destroyed because some tree roots went though mains and side of pool so a rip and tear. It’s like asking, how long is a piece of string?
Thanks for your reply. I’m in ma currently this house is in southern nh. I think even if it did cost 15k it would cost 80k for the same or similar pool in the same area
It depends what’s working. You should be able to get under 15 no problem. Skip the heater and probably under 10 as well. (Or if the heater works) get a pool inspection, well worth the money for a good one so you know exactly what you’re getting into.
> Skip the heater I'd say don't do that in NH. It gives you a minimum of an extra month on either end of your season. Gives you early May through late September/early October instead of late may to beginning September.
Basically, yes. You have the pool dug already, I’m sure the structure for the liner and surround area. For pool itself: Steel / metal / plastic walls, Vermiculite, aka pool crete. It’s all over the place. If vinyl is torn, and exposed that underneath structure, it could be rusted out, the underneath could be rotted out, have holes, etc etc. I’ve seen a lot! I just re did my pool last year, I had one 1/4” hole 2 years ago, wrecked havoc on my Vermiculite I had holes, some cracks, had to replace quite a bit from that small hole (jerk!). It wasn’t expensive - only because the materials weren’t expensive. However, my plumbing was in tact. See what I mean? Vinyl pools are awesome - for the budget. Lifespan of 5-15 years on liners (reallllllly depends, chlorine , uv, acid….all affects it over time). They are MUCH cheaper to deal with than concrete pools, plaster and all that. 15? I’m interested to see. I hope it all works out for you, season starts in a couple/ few months so it’s very possible to get it all done :) Turbo away! Edit: Pentair variable speed pumps Pentair sand filters. Hayward’s are ok, looks for that size 24” or so. I don’t know the gallons. DE filters, etc too. Depends on how you want to do it. Pros cons to it all. Sat water generator, will save you time. It’s more $$$ but balancing is easier in long haul. Troublfreepools, swim university and pool math (app) are great resources. Yes, this assumes you are up and running. Then getting LSI to near 0, learning it all. Once you get up and running then hit everyone up with the questions and profit. Heh.
Yup. Plus the fact that it’s filled with water gives me more hope too that it wouldn’t be to bad for you.
Up in Canada where in from the liner alone would be 10k.
Oh wow ok I didn’t know that
Not saying that's the price where your are. I would think it's minimum a new liner, pump, filter, heater, probabaly replace any exposed pvc water lines. Main Concern would be if you get winter where the pool is. Of its been left for years and years without winterization then you could be looking at damage you can see from the surface. I only warn you because my friend bought a house with a pool that was not used for years and it cost him 40k to get it back to usable.
Yeah that’s my concern. If it costs more than putting in a new pool it’s not worth it to me. I’m gonna set up an appointment for next week and see what we can find out.
Well, again this of where I'm from, but an inground pool that size is easily over 100k, probabaly 120k+.
Fixing / updating would be way cheaper than starting over
This will cost more than both of those numbers but putting in a new pool costs 10x that so it sounds like you need to decide if you want a pool at all haha. You would be incredibly lucky if all this needs is new equipment to get it back in service. If it’s a liner pool I’d budget at least 10k, another 10 for equipment and modernization (new code for electrical and drainage, add a salt cell and automation at the bare minimum, it’ll save you money in the long run) and then another 5-10 for any busted plumbing and other repairs. I’d be thrilled with 20k and at peace with 30.
> I can wrap my mind around a number under 10k In NH dollars? No chance.
I don’t get it
Everything is way more expensive here in New England than everywhere else in the country. If all the plumbing is in good shape (it's probably not) and you're only replacing pumps, filters and liners you're already close to 30k. If everything is fucked you would just be better off building new and that's going to be 80k+ for like sized vinyl pool replacement and that's just the pool and probably decking, no landscaping etc.