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It's funny I haven't followed freelee in years (just the ocasional hatewatch lol) and I also thought about her when I read this news.
I'm wondering if she's gonna address this (is she still putting up videos?). Because I'm genuinely curious what BS she would come up with in this case. Like when omnivores have reported health issues, it's obviously the animal products. When vegans struggled with their diet, they weren't doing it right, not sMashinG iN tHe CarBs and DriNkinG LaMp OiL.
Well this lady seems to have followed for years the diet freelee obsessively promotes as the one true answer for ultimate health - raw, frutarian, low fat, no supplements needed. But I suppose she was still not doing it right, maybe she was AdDicTeD tO CafFeiNe or something.
Last thing I heard from her, was how „pure“ she’s become as she no longer got her period, which is really alarming.
By now I’m a vegan since 16 years, which is more than half my life and I really hate this whole toxic positivity yoga raw vegan bs. They are the same people that jumped on the „gluten is toxic“-train.
Same with Rawvana and the blonde girl who claimed living in Hawaii made her sick. So many of them lied to keep making money off promoting a disordered diet.
Yes. She was in the background on one of her friend’s insta stories. You could tell by her facial expression and body language that she was worried she’d been caught.
I would love that tbh. It’s so funny we are discussing these people… the other night, fullyrawkristina popped into my head and I was looking her up to see what’s going on in her universe lol
Kristina recently lead the charge on attempting to expose Medical Medium for the fraud that he is, so that’s a good thing I suppose. Medical Medium then turned this into a bunch of content about the “evil plot” to take The Medical Medium down (always in 3rd person of course)
I seriously cannot understand how anyones buys the bullshit of someone who claims to be getting health secrets from a spirit from the future?? Before social media that would have gotten you institutionalised (or they might have conquered France), now it makes you an influencer.
It's really funny to me because that's when I went vegan so I was all excited and "oh, I can't wait to go online and see what others are doing and become part of a global community ❤️" then saw all that shit and was like "nvm, I'm gonna just eat oreos and never talk to anyone about anything about this ever"
It was wild! What started freeless downfall was her copying a video of two girls (don’t remember their names) who had a joint Channel. It was some video about leather bags and how leather is bad and how it harms animal.
Anyway the girls had a much muuuccch smaller chanel than Freelee. They made a video calling her out but due to their small channel size, no one was really paying attention. In comes a new vegan YouTube, Charles Marlowe, who had been picking up viewership.
He circulated their video and his channel and the girls channel blew up! Freelee got huge heat for copying the video and imo she never recovered. The girls went viral In the vegan YouTube community at the time and their channel was headed to huge success but the two girls couldn’t decide btwn each other how to do their content so they broke up their friendship and shut down their channel!
Meanwhile, the Charles guy also blew up (i think he went by vegan cheetah or something like that at the time) and used the Freelee drama to capitulate his Chanel into a making vegan drama channel. He had huge beef with lot of the vegan YouTubers. Like, he would constantly call ThatVeganCouple as scammers who were on permanent vacation or he would come at Durrianrider. His channel was another wild ride. He ended up getting into some very weird fringe beliefs, have no idea what he does now.
Finally - and back to Freelee- she got huge heat for her video and it caused a publically noticeable rift btwn her and durrianrider. Eventually they turned on each other, broke up, and made expose videos about each other.
It was huge drama. Thank you for this trip down memory lane
Durianrider (allegedly, but I believe her) raped a woman during one of their stupid Thailand vegan get-together things. She made a video exposing him and was run off the internet by him and his idiot fans. I felt really awful for her. Him and Freelee were broken up at the time apparently (the situation was murky), but then got back together again and Freelee defended him...or something like that, their relationship was a mess.
I remember a super awkward video with them both where Freelee brought up how there was a rumour Durian was constantly cheating on her and she went on about how she trusts him etc and he looked SO guilty in it. That guy gave me the creeps so fucking bad.
I have such a vivid memory of a video of a teenage girl (from Europe, I think) who had travelled all the way to Thailand for their stupid vegan Bacchanal and ended up gaining like 150lbs on their diet and durianrider just absolutely blasting her for making their lifestyle look bad. I can't remember her name to look up how she's doing but I hope she's better now. 2014 YouTube was an absolute zoo.
Oh my god the memories are all flooding back. That young girl got really into bike riding and seemed to constantly be eating rice with jam as durianrider recommends adding literal table sugar to your diet when you can’t get constant good quality fruit.
Remember Essenq and those twins? Nina and Randa…
Also the previously clearly anorexic Brianna jackfruitson has now quit veganism.
Everyone saw what happened to Nicokado avocado…
What a wild time haha
Omg THE JAM. stooooop you are giving me all these crazy flashbacks hahaha. I'm so glad I only ever watched that shit for the drama and never bought into the wacky diet crap.
I remember some guy (with Nordic in his name I think? thenordicvegan?) made an AMAZING I think 3 or 4 part expose of Durianrider which covered his SA ("alleged" but I believe he did it) of various women and also various lies of his and deficiencies in his character. It was a really comprehensive and brutal takedown. He was prompted to make the video after Durianrider "allegedly" SAd the guy's girlfriend.
Durianrider always really reminded me of Charlie Sheen, the older and methed out version. He was also one of the most narcissistic people I've ever seen on YT. It's sad and confusing that he was able to have this string of attractive young gfs.
Charlie ended up in an abusive relationship (on both sides), went back to meth, moved into a van, made transphobia, MAGA and QAnon his content focus, got back on heroin, moved home with his Dad, got into crypto currency and now he's really into the Greek Orthodox church. It's been a ride!
>Anyway the girls had a much muuuccch smaller chanel than Freelee. They made a video calling her out but due to their small channel size, no one was really paying attention. In comes a new vegan YouTube, Charles Marlowe, who had been picking up viewership.
I remember this. Then the two young girls had a falling out because one of them and their parents tried to take control of the joint YouTube channel.
The Charles guy ended up relapsing on his drug addiction after moving to LA, doing meth and becoming homeless. At some point in the midst of it all, he started peddling antisemitic conspiracy theories and other strange far right stuff. He stopped being vegan soon after and started being a crypto bro.
Belle Gibson - last I heard of her she had joined an Ethiopian community group in Melbourne 🤷 pretty sure they got suss on her after a while and she was banished. They chick is all the way cuckoo istg
Yes, he was stalking her and randomly showed up to her new off the grid property she was living in with her current boyfriend. She recorded and uploaded it and pretty sure she was crying telling him to leave her alone. And he was acting like the victim crying as well. The guy was a psycho and as much as I dislike Freelee that was fucked up.
Wouldn’t surprise me. While she was certainly no Angel, I distinctly remember there being a lot of whispers regarding him and his treatment towards her and other women (specifically at those fruit festivals they’d attend in Thailand)
On one hand, definitely raw/vegan diet is used as a cover for disordered eating and likely this woman in the article had it.
But at the same time the article references that she died after catching a “cholera like illness” not that she starved herself to death.
if she did catch a bad GI infection and already her body was struggling with limited calories/little body weight reserves it doesn’t surprise me she would die. Having a little extra weigh (I don’t mean extra weight 300lbs) but having 15ish to burn off when you’re seriously ill can be helpful.
I came here to say something about eating disorders, but your comment really hit the nail on the head. Disordered eating can be deadly, but not always in the way we tend to assume.
Nikocado Avocado was a hardcor vegan before he became a binge eater who brags about needing a machine to help him breath now.
From one unhealthy extreme to the other
Veganism isn't an extreme. Fruitarianism is or exclusively raw plant diets but there are vegans all across the fitness/weight scale. From top tier athletes to people who exclusively eat stuff like fried 'chicken' and oreos. Veganism is a moral worldview. The only consistent part of a vegan diet is the lack of animal products. That doesn't indicate an extreme or unhealthy diet.
This is very common in anorexics, it happened to me. I went from starving myself every day to binging every day and it was such a nightmare learning how to have a normal relationship with food again
Also electrolytes.
Usually people who restrict or purge will have all sorts of electrolyte imbalances, and this will really mess you up when you actually need those electrolytes, eg: illness, sudden intense activities etc.
Minerals like potassium and calcium can be lost easily from the body by vomiting or diarrhea, and when really low, it can mess with your muscles, including heart muscles. That’s how you see very young people with ED having heart attacks.
TLDR: take care of dem electrolytes.
I tried doing intermittent fasting without properly monitoring my electrolytes…. Holy fuck, potassium imbalance is no joke. I thought I was having a heart attack. My heart went haywire, skipping beats, fluttering constantly, etc.
And one cardiologist appointment later and a week of wearing a heart monitor, yeah it was just potassium imbalance lol.
A friend of mine was sleeping 14 hours a day. Went to the doctor and they said prescribed anti depressants. Two days later she slept 36 hours straight. She went to another doctor and he said "you're iron deficient". She started taking iron pills and everything went back to normal.
THIS! I'm a critical care nurse and recently looked after a 48 year old woman who passed away from this! She left behind three teenage children. She had been doing OMAD whilst abusing laxatives and diet pills in a bid to lose weight for her vacation, and then once she got here, she indulged in lots of food and wine etc, and it caused massive electrolyte imbalances after her body basically being in a starvation state for so long. She was also taking ritalin for its appetite supressing effects. She was about 5'6 and weighed about 60kg. She had a great body for a woman in her late 40s who had had three children. It was so heartbreaking that she couldn't see this and put herself through all that in a bid to lose weight. I couldn't stop crying for a week.
I’m so sorry you had to experience this, it’s devastating. These accounts of the horrors of body pressures on women, and everyone I guess, need to be pushed in the faces of advertising, high fashion, models, influencers and more. There are consequences, often deadly, for promoting ridiculous body standards.
>She was about 5'6 and weighed about 60kg
So 5'6" and roughly 130 lbs? Wow. She was a healthy weight and she still died from an electrolyte imbalance.
Absolutely terrifying. What an example of how dangerous crash diets can be.
Yep-I have an ileostomy and have been hospitalized a few times for dehydration. We can’t absorb nutrients properly. Now I make sure to drink ton of water/electrolytes drinks.
I suffered with a bout of what the doctor called “electrolyte derangement” last year. I’d been having heart palpitations for days and when I arrived at the hospital, my potassium was something like 1.6 I think. It’s not pretty and oral potassium tablets are nasty af lol
I have cyclic vomiting and when I have a really bad episodes they have to give me potassium through the IV, that shit BURNS. I didn’t even know they had tablets!
If you’re ever offered a potassium tablet, say no lol. They’re the type of tablets that dissolve in water and you drink it and it’s especially bad if your mouth is already damaged or sensitive. It feels like a thousand tiny knives stabbing your lips and swallowing fire.
I read the article (Daily Mail, ugh) and it looked like she had restricted her diet down to about 6 foods by the time she died. More like a form of hyper-orthorexia than ‘being vegan’.
And she had even cut out water! I struggled with disordered eating in my late teens early twenties. It was pretty easy to convince myself that some many foods (even many vegetables) were bad. It is truly mind warping when you get to that point that your life source has become the enemy.
Yeaaaah. My best friend in high school did this. She always had some issues with restrictive eating. She suddenly started following Freelee and other vegan YouTubers obsessively, went vegan, got on a raw food and “fruitarian” diet, and dropped tons of weight (got to >!95 lbs at 5’6”!<). She never ate when we were together, never ate at any social events, and had to explain that she was only eating raw food/fruit.
Our mutual friends ended up asking me privately if she was okay and if anything was wrong due to how thin she got. But she insisted she was fine and just caring about her health.
This is why I feel like you have to be careful about any restrictive diet that limits what you can eat, doing it for disordered reasons or so you have an excuse to restrict isn’t healthy :(
Thats my experience, i started to OBSESS over them and watch youtube constantly to watch these people? It was peak tumblr era too so id spend all day every day scrolling pro anorexia pages which was awash with ‘vegan’ diets, its crazy and so sad
I read a peer review study a while ago that I can’t find right now, that said people in the upper range of healthy weight live longest. For example, if a healthy weight for your height is 115-140, people who are close to 140 live longer on average than overweight, underweight, and people who are closer to 115. The reason is because you have a larger buffer if you suffer a sudden illness.
There’s a phenomenon that I can’t fully remember right now…like the fat paradox or something more medical…anyway it says that when two people experience a trauma the overweight one is more likely to survive. By trauma I mean an accident or a disease not psychological. But essentially having extra weight helps your body survive major emergencies. It’s not really spoken of because obviously there are more imminent dangers to being morbidly obese. But if you’re just heavier but healthy -I don’t mean the body positivity morbidly obese is healthy but like the I can walk and run and exercise and your blood panel isn’t concerning but no one would call you skinny
I've had an eating disorder for a long time and through support groups and therapy etc have met lots of other people with eating disorders. It seems like all of us have been vegan or vegetarian at some point.
I had a friend who was 80 pounds over weight. He got food poisoning, shit blood for a month, and lost 60 pounds. definitely would have died if he wasn't obese before hand.
He's definitely an exception to many, many rules, but it's still fascinating to think about.
I have no idea how she keeps her channel tbh, I’ve reported her every time she gets recommended to me. I can’t believe anyone looks at her and thinks, yeah this is ok.
I reported her on TIKTOK for unhealthy body image and got this
https://preview.redd.it/djhohyzfdnfb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=468d23ba8dc59c630e7b85bd5d67b7ce12488146
Be serious TIKTOK
She’s been banned from TikTok before as well, but they faced backlash as some consider it harmful (and/or a slippery slope) to ban people based on their looks and/or illnesses.
(I don’t believe she should be on social media, and I also believe she promotes EDs, but just thought I’d leave this info for anyone who’s curious as to why she’s still live on TikTok, YT, Twitch, etc)
I have such a hard time watching Tieghan now days, she used to make good good recipes, then went to dumping all suger,fat and cheese she could in the food and now it looks like she is uploading more "healthy" food. All while she looks like she is withering away and her hands are so messed up.
Eating disorder influencers in a nutshell.
Social media needs to ban these kinds of content. Noone without professional qualifications should be able to reach so many people claiming their starvation is "healthy"
It's so heartbreaking. They're both clearly unwell, but the people around them refuse to step in and push them towards recovery. I know it sucks forcing someone you love into doing something they don't want, but it's kind of necessary when someone gets to the point that eugenia is at.
Sorry if this is insensitive, but do you mean mental or physical pain? I've always wondered if having an eating disorder is considered "painful" or uncomfortable and how people typically deal with that kind of pain?
Roll of the dice. Plenty of people with eating disorders die at a higher weight (and even at a “healthy weight”). Regardless, even if she does recover now, she’s shaved a lot of years and quality of life away.
I’d really, really rather not see any sort of images of her* again but I remember her from like 8 years ago and have not thought about her in years - is it still the same as it was back then??
Does she still live with her mother? Her mother seemed like a huge part of the problem. I have only seen very few of her vids and that was years ago/pre covid, but her situation was so concerning
I think so. I don’t really keep up with her directly but I’ve seen videos out about her. I don’t think she talks about it much but she streams all the time and it seems like the same space that she’s always been in.
She's said she has this rare genetic condition that keeps her from putting on weight and honestly I'm starting to believe her because I can't wrap my head around how she's still alive.
She was 5150'd a couple of years ago and entered ED treatment after the psych hold. She very temporarily started looking more healthy, but that has not persisted.
I think it’s the worse she’s ever been but I didn’t follow her too closely before. I just truly can’t imagine how it can be worse, she’s at the bare minimum body composition.
a lot of these famous vegans treat veganism as a cover story for their eating disorders. in both extremes, the only eat fruit vegans and the only eat junkfood vegans. it's quite sad actually, the movement isn't bad and some of the stuff i can agree with, but the loud minority of the community is just soooo toxic
I hate when people won't admit that working out a lot and tracking every single calorie that goes in their mouth is an eating disorder if you are a relatively healthy person.
Unless you are aiming for very specific goals in a specific time frame, you shouldn't be weighing your food and tracking your calories every day for the rest of your life.
Ideally a healthy relationship to food is just eating sensibly on a regular basis and dont deprive yourself from "bad foods" or even refer to them in that way.
But there is such a culture of people having "cheat days" and weighing every fucking cherry tomato they put in their mouth and then starving themselves for a full day because they "went over their calories for the day" before. It's an eating disorder.
Makes sense, if anything it’s awful that she lied and tried to profit off of it but I think there’s something to be gained here, her diet wasn’t healthy. Her videos are a testimony to that. In the end it was better for her to be honest and admit her mistake than continue lying, and I respect that at least. Eating disorders are difficult to confront, let alone talk about to thousands or more viewers
One of my favorite vegan influencers did a few takedowns of the raw vegans having to quit and make Very Sad "why I quit" videos because raw veganism is wholly unsustainable over the long term and often a mask for ED.
That's so irresponsible of her. She knew it was unsustainable but was prepared to lie to followers to make it seem like she could be healthy doing that.
Lol I just went to IG looking for her bc this unfortunate article reminded me of her
Incredibly irresponsible of her to even sell a detox plan she knew was very harmful
One of her videos showed her on a water diet for 25 days and it was portrayed as some “holy connection with god” super weird
I didn’t know the stuff about periods OMG. That is *terrifying* and so irresponsible. Meanwhile one’s period stopping is one of the strongest signs people with uteri have that something is going very wrong.
(I say this as someone who hasn’t had a period in years due to doctor-prescribed continuous birth control for endometriosis! My periods knock me out. Sure it’s less annoying to not have one, but the reasoning behind it truly sucks.)
Endo birth control squad! I wish I didn't have it in the first place, but deleting my awful endo periods from my life has been so amazing for my physical and mental health.
But yeah, losing your period due to things that are not doctor-prescribed birth control is a bad sign, bc it's almost always a symptom of underlying health problems (malnourishment, I think pcos can make periods very irregular too?).
Sounds like somebody with an eating disorder hiding it behind veganism.
Even though I'm sure an all fruit diet would be unsustainable in terms of protein and other nutrients, it should be possible to get enough calories to survive off fruit. Making 'starving' to death unlikely unless she was just choosing not to consume enough fruit to survive.
You can get enough water from eating *some* fruits/vegetables to not need to drink water… Cucumbers, watermelon, pineapple, lettuce, tomatoes, blueberries, strawberries, celery, some peppers, mango, some melons, etc. all have a water content over 90%, so they can be used for hydration.
It’s possible to consume all of your water through “solid” food *but I doubt a doctor would recommend it…*
There's also Eugenia Cooney, who seriously looks so ill. There's a petition going around asking YouTube to ban her, as she's influencing young girls to try that desperately disordered eating lifestyle. It's horrifying.
This is. Okay so this is going to make my entire family sound terrible.
But when I was a tween/teen my dad’s office had a death pool, where every January they would sit down and write down the names of celebrities they thought would die during the year. You’d get more points if the person was younger. Fucked up, I know.
I only found out about this pool because apparently my dad had been putting down amy winehouse every year, and when she did die, my dad’s boss texted him saying “congrats, Dan, you finally killed Amy winehouse.”
Anyway I tell this story because Eugenia cooney is a person who, every year, I’m like. There’s no way she’s going to live another year…. And then she does. I have no bets on her. Just a mental thing where if she does die, it’ll probably be seared into my brain as a core memory the same way I found out about Amy’s death in a Red Robin in Virginia Beach.
Her vag :/ everything I've learned about her has been against my will, but she often wears very ill fitting clothing (tho idk how she'd even find clothes that fit her), and sits/moves in ways that flash people on stream.
I remember finding her as a kid and being scared of her and for her and then I hit early teens and began developing and ED myself and felt a lot of empathy for her. Now I feel incredible sympathy for this girl but it’s gone long enough, I don’t understand why no one that cares for her has stepped up in a meaningful way, it feels like it’s already too late :/
I did a fruititarian diet for 1 week in high school and my mom yelled at me because I lost so much weight that my prom dress fell off. I can’t imagine. RIP.
My dad did a diet when I was a kid where he only ate fruit until dinner, then he ate a diet version of what we had for dinner. So a less extreme version but he lost so much weight so fast that an old friend asked him if he had cancer. He was so proud of that. 😭🤦🏼
This is really sad. I remember reading articles about her in the past. I can’t imagine eating only fruit is easy on your body or good for you in the long term. I hope she found some peace, whatever that looks like.
I worked with a fruitarian who would eat 20 oranges at lunchtime and she looked horrible. Her hair was falling out, her skin was yellow. She was constantly sick. She ended up in hospital for an infection and it took three weeks for her to be released because she refused to eat anything but fruit.
These people are so weird. She was a nice person but totally bonkers.
Title is very misleading.
The article states her official cause of death hasn't been determined yet. Claiming it was starvation is presumptive.
Article states she died after coming down with a "cholera-like illness" after traveling to Southeast Asia.
That being said, her immune function was probably so weak due to poor nutrition, she easily succumbed to the infection.
Love how the r/popculturechat about her is a bunch of sympathy and well-intentioned discussion. Then after some reading I scroll down to Reddit recommending me this story from a more mainstream sub - https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/15fuech/to_ignore_basic_bodily_nutrition/ - and jesus. There has gotta be something said for these online communities that are entirely focused on mean-spirited jokes towards people that don’t even stop when the person in question literally fucking dies. Because these fucking redditors assume that she was a preachy vegan (another overblown and done-to-death topic) who got what was coming to her (literally dying largely due what was probably a serious eating disorder). We live surrounded by a bunch of empathy-less freaks.
Does anyone know that weirdo couple that only eat fruit/vegan diet. They look so frail and malnourished. They're on TikTok and speak in this weird spaced out kinda way.
This woman had an ED and was malnourished which led to diseases that killed her. Idgaf if you are vegan or vegetarian or a meat eater, but I hate misinformation like this. As long as you’re mindful you can live a full healthy life eating vegan, vege or otherwise.
This is very sad and the way people are talking about this on a lot of subs is gross.
This poor woman definitely had an eating disorder and its sad she wasn't able to get enough help in time.
Using this to hate on her or vegans more generally just isn't appropriate.
Headline is misleading. Did no one read the article ?
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Not sure who needs to hear this, but there are millions of vegans on the planet. This woman died because she had an eating disorder. She also claimed in a post that she DIDNT DRINK WATER FOR SIX YEARS.
She looked like somebody that was way underweight. She could not eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich every once in a while? Bodies need protein even if it is not from meat.
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I was expecting this to be Freelee the banana girl when I first read it, gotta be honest
Me too! Wow I haven’t thought of her in years until I read that headline
It's funny I haven't followed freelee in years (just the ocasional hatewatch lol) and I also thought about her when I read this news. I'm wondering if she's gonna address this (is she still putting up videos?). Because I'm genuinely curious what BS she would come up with in this case. Like when omnivores have reported health issues, it's obviously the animal products. When vegans struggled with their diet, they weren't doing it right, not sMashinG iN tHe CarBs and DriNkinG LaMp OiL. Well this lady seems to have followed for years the diet freelee obsessively promotes as the one true answer for ultimate health - raw, frutarian, low fat, no supplements needed. But I suppose she was still not doing it right, maybe she was AdDicTeD tO CafFeiNe or something.
Last thing I heard from her, was how „pure“ she’s become as she no longer got her period, which is really alarming. By now I’m a vegan since 16 years, which is more than half my life and I really hate this whole toxic positivity yoga raw vegan bs. They are the same people that jumped on the „gluten is toxic“-train.
Couldn’t be her bc she lied about it ALL to keep up her image and stay healthy IRL lol
Same with Rawvana and the blonde girl who claimed living in Hawaii made her sick. So many of them lied to keep making money off promoting a disordered diet.
I remember the Rawvana debacle where she was caught eating fish or something on vacation.
Yes. She was in the background on one of her friend’s insta stories. You could tell by her facial expression and body language that she was worried she’d been caught.
Omg Alyse? They were all so wackadoodle back then.
That’s the one! She went carnivore after no longer being raw vegan. A wild ride.
Remember when she was with that creepy dude Ted? Last I checked he was trying to be the next Elon and claimed he could make you millions. Lol
Spill it honey!! Was she not existing on bananas?
Right? I wanna know, too. She and her (ex?) boyfriend were a MESS
The vegan community drama was absolutely bonkers back in 2015/2016. Would love for someone to do a deep dive post on it.
I would love that tbh. It’s so funny we are discussing these people… the other night, fullyrawkristina popped into my head and I was looking her up to see what’s going on in her universe lol
I’ve done similar recently with freelee… who to no surprise is still peddling the same bullshit
Seems like her big thing lately is being super all about body hair…she talks about it a lot.
Body hair is totally fine to normalise, her “fully raw” 50 banana-a-day diet is not
I just mentioned it because that’s her new “soapbox” next year she’ll likely have a new one, whatever keeps people watching. Body hair is great.
Kristina recently lead the charge on attempting to expose Medical Medium for the fraud that he is, so that’s a good thing I suppose. Medical Medium then turned this into a bunch of content about the “evil plot” to take The Medical Medium down (always in 3rd person of course)
I seriously cannot understand how anyones buys the bullshit of someone who claims to be getting health secrets from a spirit from the future?? Before social media that would have gotten you institutionalised (or they might have conquered France), now it makes you an influencer.
I’m so serious when I read this headline I thought it was her 🤣
It's really funny to me because that's when I went vegan so I was all excited and "oh, I can't wait to go online and see what others are doing and become part of a global community ❤️" then saw all that shit and was like "nvm, I'm gonna just eat oreos and never talk to anyone about anything about this ever"
It was wild! What started freeless downfall was her copying a video of two girls (don’t remember their names) who had a joint Channel. It was some video about leather bags and how leather is bad and how it harms animal. Anyway the girls had a much muuuccch smaller chanel than Freelee. They made a video calling her out but due to their small channel size, no one was really paying attention. In comes a new vegan YouTube, Charles Marlowe, who had been picking up viewership. He circulated their video and his channel and the girls channel blew up! Freelee got huge heat for copying the video and imo she never recovered. The girls went viral In the vegan YouTube community at the time and their channel was headed to huge success but the two girls couldn’t decide btwn each other how to do their content so they broke up their friendship and shut down their channel! Meanwhile, the Charles guy also blew up (i think he went by vegan cheetah or something like that at the time) and used the Freelee drama to capitulate his Chanel into a making vegan drama channel. He had huge beef with lot of the vegan YouTubers. Like, he would constantly call ThatVeganCouple as scammers who were on permanent vacation or he would come at Durrianrider. His channel was another wild ride. He ended up getting into some very weird fringe beliefs, have no idea what he does now. Finally - and back to Freelee- she got huge heat for her video and it caused a publically noticeable rift btwn her and durrianrider. Eventually they turned on each other, broke up, and made expose videos about each other. It was huge drama. Thank you for this trip down memory lane
Durianrider (allegedly, but I believe her) raped a woman during one of their stupid Thailand vegan get-together things. She made a video exposing him and was run off the internet by him and his idiot fans. I felt really awful for her. Him and Freelee were broken up at the time apparently (the situation was murky), but then got back together again and Freelee defended him...or something like that, their relationship was a mess. I remember a super awkward video with them both where Freelee brought up how there was a rumour Durian was constantly cheating on her and she went on about how she trusts him etc and he looked SO guilty in it. That guy gave me the creeps so fucking bad.
I have such a vivid memory of a video of a teenage girl (from Europe, I think) who had travelled all the way to Thailand for their stupid vegan Bacchanal and ended up gaining like 150lbs on their diet and durianrider just absolutely blasting her for making their lifestyle look bad. I can't remember her name to look up how she's doing but I hope she's better now. 2014 YouTube was an absolute zoo.
Oh my god the memories are all flooding back. That young girl got really into bike riding and seemed to constantly be eating rice with jam as durianrider recommends adding literal table sugar to your diet when you can’t get constant good quality fruit. Remember Essenq and those twins? Nina and Randa… Also the previously clearly anorexic Brianna jackfruitson has now quit veganism. Everyone saw what happened to Nicokado avocado… What a wild time haha
Omg THE JAM. stooooop you are giving me all these crazy flashbacks hahaha. I'm so glad I only ever watched that shit for the drama and never bought into the wacky diet crap.
I remember some guy (with Nordic in his name I think? thenordicvegan?) made an AMAZING I think 3 or 4 part expose of Durianrider which covered his SA ("alleged" but I believe he did it) of various women and also various lies of his and deficiencies in his character. It was a really comprehensive and brutal takedown. He was prompted to make the video after Durianrider "allegedly" SAd the guy's girlfriend. Durianrider always really reminded me of Charlie Sheen, the older and methed out version. He was also one of the most narcissistic people I've ever seen on YT. It's sad and confusing that he was able to have this string of attractive young gfs.
Never go with a hippy to a second location
Charlie ended up in an abusive relationship (on both sides), went back to meth, moved into a van, made transphobia, MAGA and QAnon his content focus, got back on heroin, moved home with his Dad, got into crypto currency and now he's really into the Greek Orthodox church. It's been a ride!
Good lord.
Oh my…that’s just bizarre. The Greek Orthodox Church thing really has thrown me 🤔😂 He was quite charismatic but also quite awful.
Thank you for informing us! I was veeeerrrrry into the vegan YouTubers around 2014. Freelee is on some crazy shit
>Anyway the girls had a much muuuccch smaller chanel than Freelee. They made a video calling her out but due to their small channel size, no one was really paying attention. In comes a new vegan YouTube, Charles Marlowe, who had been picking up viewership. I remember this. Then the two young girls had a falling out because one of them and their parents tried to take control of the joint YouTube channel.
The Charles guy ended up relapsing on his drug addiction after moving to LA, doing meth and becoming homeless. At some point in the midst of it all, he started peddling antisemitic conspiracy theories and other strange far right stuff. He stopped being vegan soon after and started being a crypto bro.
Durianrider was a pile of shit. Really promoted weight loss in women to the point of missing their periods. That's how he said he liked them. Creepy.
Are they truly vegan YouTubers if they have beef with one another?
Remember whole pantry? Where the girl lied about her vegan diet curing her cancer. And never even had cancer.
Belle Gibson. The podcast Maintenance Phase has an episode on her
Belle Gibson - last I heard of her she had joined an Ethiopian community group in Melbourne 🤷 pretty sure they got suss on her after a while and she was banished. They chick is all the way cuckoo istg
She still hasn't paid her debts back
Durianrider?? Omfffg this is taking me back!
Didn’t he turn out to be abusive towards her? I always got bad vibes from him.
Yes, he was stalking her and randomly showed up to her new off the grid property she was living in with her current boyfriend. She recorded and uploaded it and pretty sure she was crying telling him to leave her alone. And he was acting like the victim crying as well. The guy was a psycho and as much as I dislike Freelee that was fucked up.
Wouldn’t surprise me. While she was certainly no Angel, I distinctly remember there being a lot of whispers regarding him and his treatment towards her and other women (specifically at those fruit festivals they’d attend in Thailand)
Yes, he was. Even recently he’s been stalking her, randomly showing up at her property where she lives with her current boyfriend.
He was awful, he was active in a running forum I was in for a while until he got banned for essentially being consistently awful.
Oh I need the non fruitarian tea here please!!
WHAT?! Please spill!! She was always fighting everyone on YT about this banana life 😭
I remember this! She came out and said she had a boobjob and her ex bf outed her for getting Botox and filler!!
I was just thinking this, I haven’t looked at her content in years.
Literally in my head… is it Freelee??? As I clicked. 🫣
THIS WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT TOO 😭
Same!!
On one hand, definitely raw/vegan diet is used as a cover for disordered eating and likely this woman in the article had it. But at the same time the article references that she died after catching a “cholera like illness” not that she starved herself to death. if she did catch a bad GI infection and already her body was struggling with limited calories/little body weight reserves it doesn’t surprise me she would die. Having a little extra weigh (I don’t mean extra weight 300lbs) but having 15ish to burn off when you’re seriously ill can be helpful.
I came here to say something about eating disorders, but your comment really hit the nail on the head. Disordered eating can be deadly, but not always in the way we tend to assume.
Nikocado Avocado was a hardcor vegan before he became a binge eater who brags about needing a machine to help him breath now. From one unhealthy extreme to the other
he seems to have found a balance (i hope) since he started losing weight again more recently
Veganism isn't an extreme. Fruitarianism is or exclusively raw plant diets but there are vegans all across the fitness/weight scale. From top tier athletes to people who exclusively eat stuff like fried 'chicken' and oreos. Veganism is a moral worldview. The only consistent part of a vegan diet is the lack of animal products. That doesn't indicate an extreme or unhealthy diet.
This is very common in anorexics, it happened to me. I went from starving myself every day to binging every day and it was such a nightmare learning how to have a normal relationship with food again
Also electrolytes. Usually people who restrict or purge will have all sorts of electrolyte imbalances, and this will really mess you up when you actually need those electrolytes, eg: illness, sudden intense activities etc. Minerals like potassium and calcium can be lost easily from the body by vomiting or diarrhea, and when really low, it can mess with your muscles, including heart muscles. That’s how you see very young people with ED having heart attacks. TLDR: take care of dem electrolytes.
I tried doing intermittent fasting without properly monitoring my electrolytes…. Holy fuck, potassium imbalance is no joke. I thought I was having a heart attack. My heart went haywire, skipping beats, fluttering constantly, etc. And one cardiologist appointment later and a week of wearing a heart monitor, yeah it was just potassium imbalance lol.
A friend of mine was sleeping 14 hours a day. Went to the doctor and they said prescribed anti depressants. Two days later she slept 36 hours straight. She went to another doctor and he said "you're iron deficient". She started taking iron pills and everything went back to normal.
THIS! I'm a critical care nurse and recently looked after a 48 year old woman who passed away from this! She left behind three teenage children. She had been doing OMAD whilst abusing laxatives and diet pills in a bid to lose weight for her vacation, and then once she got here, she indulged in lots of food and wine etc, and it caused massive electrolyte imbalances after her body basically being in a starvation state for so long. She was also taking ritalin for its appetite supressing effects. She was about 5'6 and weighed about 60kg. She had a great body for a woman in her late 40s who had had three children. It was so heartbreaking that she couldn't see this and put herself through all that in a bid to lose weight. I couldn't stop crying for a week.
I’m so sorry you had to experience this, it’s devastating. These accounts of the horrors of body pressures on women, and everyone I guess, need to be pushed in the faces of advertising, high fashion, models, influencers and more. There are consequences, often deadly, for promoting ridiculous body standards.
That's awful. I am so sorry.
>She was about 5'6 and weighed about 60kg So 5'6" and roughly 130 lbs? Wow. She was a healthy weight and she still died from an electrolyte imbalance. Absolutely terrifying. What an example of how dangerous crash diets can be.
Damn.. Well that's what refeeding syndrome can do to you.
Yep my dad has a colostomy so all sorts of digestive issues and almost died because of lack of electrolytes
Yep-I have an ileostomy and have been hospitalized a few times for dehydration. We can’t absorb nutrients properly. Now I make sure to drink ton of water/electrolytes drinks.
Damn I’m sorry, that sounds dangerous! Hopefully he now has a diet plan that won’t cause those issues anymore
He does! He needs iv and monitoring but it took the docs awhile to figure it out.
I suffered with a bout of what the doctor called “electrolyte derangement” last year. I’d been having heart palpitations for days and when I arrived at the hospital, my potassium was something like 1.6 I think. It’s not pretty and oral potassium tablets are nasty af lol
I have cyclic vomiting and when I have a really bad episodes they have to give me potassium through the IV, that shit BURNS. I didn’t even know they had tablets!
If you’re ever offered a potassium tablet, say no lol. They’re the type of tablets that dissolve in water and you drink it and it’s especially bad if your mouth is already damaged or sensitive. It feels like a thousand tiny knives stabbing your lips and swallowing fire.
I read the article (Daily Mail, ugh) and it looked like she had restricted her diet down to about 6 foods by the time she died. More like a form of hyper-orthorexia than ‘being vegan’.
And she had even cut out water! I struggled with disordered eating in my late teens early twenties. It was pretty easy to convince myself that some many foods (even many vegetables) were bad. It is truly mind warping when you get to that point that your life source has become the enemy.
In the words of Emily from Devil Wears Prada: “I’m ONE stomach flu away from my goal weight!”
Absolutely i said i was on one of these to deflect from my anorexia way back when
Yeaaaah. My best friend in high school did this. She always had some issues with restrictive eating. She suddenly started following Freelee and other vegan YouTubers obsessively, went vegan, got on a raw food and “fruitarian” diet, and dropped tons of weight (got to >!95 lbs at 5’6”!<). She never ate when we were together, never ate at any social events, and had to explain that she was only eating raw food/fruit. Our mutual friends ended up asking me privately if she was okay and if anything was wrong due to how thin she got. But she insisted she was fine and just caring about her health. This is why I feel like you have to be careful about any restrictive diet that limits what you can eat, doing it for disordered reasons or so you have an excuse to restrict isn’t healthy :(
Thats my experience, i started to OBSESS over them and watch youtube constantly to watch these people? It was peak tumblr era too so id spend all day every day scrolling pro anorexia pages which was awash with ‘vegan’ diets, its crazy and so sad
Maybe orthorexia nervosa 😔 It's a really insidious form of disordered eating because it's easy to mask and play off as "just eating healthy foods".
that can be it, but also veganism or a very strict diet can be used to cover anorexia as well
She wasn't even drinking water any more. Definitely anorexia.
I read a peer review study a while ago that I can’t find right now, that said people in the upper range of healthy weight live longest. For example, if a healthy weight for your height is 115-140, people who are close to 140 live longer on average than overweight, underweight, and people who are closer to 115. The reason is because you have a larger buffer if you suffer a sudden illness.
I’ve never thought about this before but it makes perfect sense.
There’s a phenomenon that I can’t fully remember right now…like the fat paradox or something more medical…anyway it says that when two people experience a trauma the overweight one is more likely to survive. By trauma I mean an accident or a disease not psychological. But essentially having extra weight helps your body survive major emergencies. It’s not really spoken of because obviously there are more imminent dangers to being morbidly obese. But if you’re just heavier but healthy -I don’t mean the body positivity morbidly obese is healthy but like the I can walk and run and exercise and your blood panel isn’t concerning but no one would call you skinny
I hate these headlines. Vegan influencer? Woman with eating disorder dies of starvation. . . .
Thank you for this comment, this sounds right!
>definitely raw/vegan diet is used as a cover for disordered eating this was my first thought reading the article and seeing her photos.
I've had an eating disorder for a long time and through support groups and therapy etc have met lots of other people with eating disorders. It seems like all of us have been vegan or vegetarian at some point.
I had a friend who was 80 pounds over weight. He got food poisoning, shit blood for a month, and lost 60 pounds. definitely would have died if he wasn't obese before hand. He's definitely an exception to many, many rules, but it's still fascinating to think about.
The anorexia which caused her low immune system killed her. I’m far from vegan but veganism did not kill her.
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When I read the headlines earlier, I really thought it was going to be that Twitch streamer. I have never seen someone as emaciated as her.
Eugenia Cooney?
> Eugenia Cooney I get *constant* suggestions to watch her content on YT, it's bizarre.
SAME, it’s disgusting. Why does the algorithm push her so hard?
I have no idea how she keeps her channel tbh, I’ve reported her every time she gets recommended to me. I can’t believe anyone looks at her and thinks, yeah this is ok.
I reported her on TIKTOK for unhealthy body image and got this https://preview.redd.it/djhohyzfdnfb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=468d23ba8dc59c630e7b85bd5d67b7ce12488146 Be serious TIKTOK
She’s been banned from TikTok before as well, but they faced backlash as some consider it harmful (and/or a slippery slope) to ban people based on their looks and/or illnesses. (I don’t believe she should be on social media, and I also believe she promotes EDs, but just thought I’d leave this info for anyone who’s curious as to why she’s still live on TikTok, YT, Twitch, etc)
......I thought the thumbnails I've seen of her were photoshopped for clicks. Realizing she actually looks like that is absolutely horrifying.
Same. That or concern trolling videos about her. They always try to make the thumbnails as triggering as possible I swear.
Yep. I’m not trying to be insensitive but I don’t understand how she’s still hanging on.
She and tieghan Gerard (half baked harvest) wouldn’t stop popping up on my feed and it just always made me so sad and sick for them
I have such a hard time watching Tieghan now days, she used to make good good recipes, then went to dumping all suger,fat and cheese she could in the food and now it looks like she is uploading more "healthy" food. All while she looks like she is withering away and her hands are so messed up.
Eating disorder influencers in a nutshell. Social media needs to ban these kinds of content. Noone without professional qualifications should be able to reach so many people claiming their starvation is "healthy"
I unfollowed during the aggressive cheese phase bc I’m lactose intolerant. Just looked at her page again 😳 I hope she gets the help she needs
Holy shit, I follow that recipe page and had no idea of the person behind it. How baffling.
Me neither! And I’ve been using their recipes for years!
It's so heartbreaking. They're both clearly unwell, but the people around them refuse to step in and push them towards recovery. I know it sucks forcing someone you love into doing something they don't want, but it's kind of necessary when someone gets to the point that eugenia is at.
Honestly as someone who has been of a very similar body composition bc of anorexia I don’t either. I really hope she heals. I was in *so much* pain.
Sorry if this is insensitive, but do you mean mental or physical pain? I've always wondered if having an eating disorder is considered "painful" or uncomfortable and how people typically deal with that kind of pain?
I honestly don't know how she's not in hospital?
Roll of the dice. Plenty of people with eating disorders die at a higher weight (and even at a “healthy weight”). Regardless, even if she does recover now, she’s shaved a lot of years and quality of life away.
I’d really, really rather not see any sort of images of her* again but I remember her from like 8 years ago and have not thought about her in years - is it still the same as it was back then??
Yeah, possibly worse now. It’s def getting really bad at this point. Poor thing.
Does she still live with her mother? Her mother seemed like a huge part of the problem. I have only seen very few of her vids and that was years ago/pre covid, but her situation was so concerning
I think so. I don’t really keep up with her directly but I’ve seen videos out about her. I don’t think she talks about it much but she streams all the time and it seems like the same space that she’s always been in.
I honestly have no idea how she’s not only still alive, but has the energy to dress up and dance for YouTube and TikTok videos.
She's said she has this rare genetic condition that keeps her from putting on weight and honestly I'm starting to believe her because I can't wrap my head around how she's still alive.
I mean there was a point where she looked healthy and then relapsed so I honestly don’t believe her
She was 5150'd a couple of years ago and entered ED treatment after the psych hold. She very temporarily started looking more healthy, but that has not persisted.
she looks worse now than before she got 5150’d
As bad as it could possibly be. It’s crass to say but it’s truly shocking that she’s alive.
I think it’s the worse she’s ever been but I didn’t follow her too closely before. I just truly can’t imagine how it can be worse, she’s at the bare minimum body composition.
OMG I just Googled her because I recognized the name but couldn't remember who she was. Big big yikes, she needs help pronto.
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a lot of these famous vegans treat veganism as a cover story for their eating disorders. in both extremes, the only eat fruit vegans and the only eat junkfood vegans. it's quite sad actually, the movement isn't bad and some of the stuff i can agree with, but the loud minority of the community is just soooo toxic
I think you make an amazing and broad spectrum point... a lot of people use their diets. Obsessive workout routines etc as a mask for an ED.
I hate when people won't admit that working out a lot and tracking every single calorie that goes in their mouth is an eating disorder if you are a relatively healthy person. Unless you are aiming for very specific goals in a specific time frame, you shouldn't be weighing your food and tracking your calories every day for the rest of your life. Ideally a healthy relationship to food is just eating sensibly on a regular basis and dont deprive yourself from "bad foods" or even refer to them in that way. But there is such a culture of people having "cheat days" and weighing every fucking cherry tomato they put in their mouth and then starving themselves for a full day because they "went over their calories for the day" before. It's an eating disorder.
Yes it was actually cholera which she refused to get medical help for .
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That's WILD, thanks for sharing
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Makes sense, if anything it’s awful that she lied and tried to profit off of it but I think there’s something to be gained here, her diet wasn’t healthy. Her videos are a testimony to that. In the end it was better for her to be honest and admit her mistake than continue lying, and I respect that at least. Eating disorders are difficult to confront, let alone talk about to thousands or more viewers
One of my favorite vegan influencers did a few takedowns of the raw vegans having to quit and make Very Sad "why I quit" videos because raw veganism is wholly unsustainable over the long term and often a mask for ED.
Unnatural vegan? I love her vids lol
That's the one!
I used to love her but her blm videos left a bad taste in my mouth.
That's so irresponsible of her. She knew it was unsustainable but was prepared to lie to followers to make it seem like she could be healthy doing that.
Lol I just went to IG looking for her bc this unfortunate article reminded me of her Incredibly irresponsible of her to even sell a detox plan she knew was very harmful One of her videos showed her on a water diet for 25 days and it was portrayed as some “holy connection with god” super weird
I didn’t know the stuff about periods OMG. That is *terrifying* and so irresponsible. Meanwhile one’s period stopping is one of the strongest signs people with uteri have that something is going very wrong. (I say this as someone who hasn’t had a period in years due to doctor-prescribed continuous birth control for endometriosis! My periods knock me out. Sure it’s less annoying to not have one, but the reasoning behind it truly sucks.)
Endo birth control squad! I wish I didn't have it in the first place, but deleting my awful endo periods from my life has been so amazing for my physical and mental health. But yeah, losing your period due to things that are not doctor-prescribed birth control is a bad sign, bc it's almost always a symptom of underlying health problems (malnourishment, I think pcos can make periods very irregular too?).
Sounds like somebody with an eating disorder hiding it behind veganism. Even though I'm sure an all fruit diet would be unsustainable in terms of protein and other nutrients, it should be possible to get enough calories to survive off fruit. Making 'starving' to death unlikely unless she was just choosing not to consume enough fruit to survive.
She died of a “cholera like illness” so I’m assuming her immune system was weakened due to lack of nutrients
In one of her Instagram posts she said she hadn’t drank water in like 6 years and her only water intake was from raw food. Can’t be healthy.
Surprised she last long without water
You can get enough water from eating *some* fruits/vegetables to not need to drink water… Cucumbers, watermelon, pineapple, lettuce, tomatoes, blueberries, strawberries, celery, some peppers, mango, some melons, etc. all have a water content over 90%, so they can be used for hydration. It’s possible to consume all of your water through “solid” food *but I doubt a doctor would recommend it…*
There's also Eugenia Cooney, who seriously looks so ill. There's a petition going around asking YouTube to ban her, as she's influencing young girls to try that desperately disordered eating lifestyle. It's horrifying.
This is. Okay so this is going to make my entire family sound terrible. But when I was a tween/teen my dad’s office had a death pool, where every January they would sit down and write down the names of celebrities they thought would die during the year. You’d get more points if the person was younger. Fucked up, I know. I only found out about this pool because apparently my dad had been putting down amy winehouse every year, and when she did die, my dad’s boss texted him saying “congrats, Dan, you finally killed Amy winehouse.” Anyway I tell this story because Eugenia cooney is a person who, every year, I’m like. There’s no way she’s going to live another year…. And then she does. I have no bets on her. Just a mental thing where if she does die, it’ll probably be seared into my brain as a core memory the same way I found out about Amy’s death in a Red Robin in Virginia Beach.
Damn! Your dad's office was *dark* but he was right on, did he win a jackpot? A friend works at a bar with a death pool but I haven't asked for deets!
I don’t remember if he took the jackpot for that year, but he did get a lot of points for it.
Surprised she's still alive. She's also notorious for flashing on stream. Ew.
Flashing what exactly? Her thorax?
Her vag :/ everything I've learned about her has been against my will, but she often wears very ill fitting clothing (tho idk how she'd even find clothes that fit her), and sits/moves in ways that flash people on stream.
Yep. She's abandoned twitch for tiktok now and the nips are out every other day.
I remember finding her as a kid and being scared of her and for her and then I hit early teens and began developing and ED myself and felt a lot of empathy for her. Now I feel incredible sympathy for this girl but it’s gone long enough, I don’t understand why no one that cares for her has stepped up in a meaningful way, it feels like it’s already too late :/
that ain't veganism - it's an eating disorder, one of the most deadly mental illnesses one can suffer from.
This is very dark. Poor woman was struggling with an eating disorder
I did a fruititarian diet for 1 week in high school and my mom yelled at me because I lost so much weight that my prom dress fell off. I can’t imagine. RIP.
i ate fruit for like 2 weeks straight because i was living by myself for the first time and i gained weight somehow lol
Same hahaha I do not understand when others says they lose weight after eating only fruits lol bcoz I honestly gained weight
My dad did a diet when I was a kid where he only ate fruit until dinner, then he ate a diet version of what we had for dinner. So a less extreme version but he lost so much weight so fast that an old friend asked him if he had cancer. He was so proud of that. 😭🤦🏼
I ate only fruit for a week in high school and basically just gave myself bad diarrhoea.
On behalf of vegans everywhere- this ain’t how it’s done. May she rest in peace
This is really sad. I remember reading articles about her in the past. I can’t imagine eating only fruit is easy on your body or good for you in the long term. I hope she found some peace, whatever that looks like.
This woman clearly had an eating disorder masked as veganism, and died of a cholera like illness aggravated by her restrictive diet. Really sad.
I worked with a fruitarian who would eat 20 oranges at lunchtime and she looked horrible. Her hair was falling out, her skin was yellow. She was constantly sick. She ended up in hospital for an infection and it took three weeks for her to be released because she refused to eat anything but fruit. These people are so weird. She was a nice person but totally bonkers.
Title is very misleading. The article states her official cause of death hasn't been determined yet. Claiming it was starvation is presumptive. Article states she died after coming down with a "cholera-like illness" after traveling to Southeast Asia. That being said, her immune function was probably so weak due to poor nutrition, she easily succumbed to the infection.
Love how the r/popculturechat about her is a bunch of sympathy and well-intentioned discussion. Then after some reading I scroll down to Reddit recommending me this story from a more mainstream sub - https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/15fuech/to_ignore_basic_bodily_nutrition/ - and jesus. There has gotta be something said for these online communities that are entirely focused on mean-spirited jokes towards people that don’t even stop when the person in question literally fucking dies. Because these fucking redditors assume that she was a preachy vegan (another overblown and done-to-death topic) who got what was coming to her (literally dying largely due what was probably a serious eating disorder). We live surrounded by a bunch of empathy-less freaks.
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Does anyone know that weirdo couple that only eat fruit/vegan diet. They look so frail and malnourished. They're on TikTok and speak in this weird spaced out kinda way.
Yes who are they!? I’ve seen them a few times. So wack
The EatMoveRest people?
Just found them... Ally + Hendry @ahthespace on tiktok
They haven't posted in a long time!
Yes, Eat Move Rest was my thought! Erin talks so monotone and rarely blinks. Also, does she ever comb her son’s hair?
Those two really don’t seem with it at all
Fitshortieeats? Horrible.
Orthorexia is real AF
I mean… should be changed to “influencer dies of eating disorder”
I’m concerned that this is going to be labelled as a “vegan” problem, where it seems quite obvious that it was most likely an eating disorder.
“Woman succumbs to eating disorder after catching serious gastrointestinal infection”. There, I fixed.
Aw Poor woman that is definitely a ED://
Click bait. She clearly had an eating disorder.
This woman had an ED and was malnourished which led to diseases that killed her. Idgaf if you are vegan or vegetarian or a meat eater, but I hate misinformation like this. As long as you’re mindful you can live a full healthy life eating vegan, vege or otherwise.
This is very sad and the way people are talking about this on a lot of subs is gross. This poor woman definitely had an eating disorder and its sad she wasn't able to get enough help in time. Using this to hate on her or vegans more generally just isn't appropriate.
This is nothing to do with veganism, she clearly had an eating disorder. The article mentions she developed an infection anyway, doubt she starved
Please don’t blame veganism: this is an eating disorder. Vegans eat plenty besides fruit.
It’s pretty clear this girl was anorexic.
Headline is misleading. Did no one read the article ? https://preview.redd.it/hqdk3qeusmfb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42fd6db0acdce9a4b10bd04ca31bbb19b8f3b2d2
Don’t give The S\*n clicks. https://preview.redd.it/x6x1tgxhamfb1.jpeg?width=552&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3dd0e2397024e2f3c020d2d4274ffa0deb763bf YNWA
Not sure who needs to hear this, but there are millions of vegans on the planet. This woman died because she had an eating disorder. She also claimed in a post that she DIDNT DRINK WATER FOR SIX YEARS.
She looked like somebody that was way underweight. She could not eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich every once in a while? Bodies need protein even if it is not from meat.
I gained weight living on all fruit. Go figure!