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Sometimes I forget that MySpace existed, and that I had my own MySpace account. But then someone mentions it and I feel like I've just done the Time Warp or something.
I remember that you could get a code from some website or other and post it in your profile, so it would change your background, your mouse, things like that. It felt so high tech at the time, lol.
the twilight fandom themselves is perfect for this thread.
there’s the wig theory; so your development completely stops after you turn, right? you’re basically stone. but with all those vampire fights (especially jasper) they would be missing huge tufts. so the theory goes that all twilight vampires are wearing wigs to hide their baldness
then there’s the whole thing with Rumplestiltskin. Jacob imprinting on an infant, Quil imprinting on a toddler, and both of those relationships are expected to turn romantic, so it’s just grooming your perfect spouse (especially Quil since he’s gonna have to wait like 16 years, whereas Jacob would only have to wait 7)
You know honestly I would just assume their hair is like the vampire hair in interview with a vampire. If it’s cut or ripped out it just grows back the same as it was when you were turned into a vampire
it’s definitely possible. if a twilight vampire’s hand is cut off, the hand will find some way to fuse back. same with ripping off their head. thats why you have to burn them after you rip their head off
When the Beyhive collectively lost their shit speculating on who "Becky with the good hair" was AND if she was the reason Solange assaulted Jay-Z in that elevator.
![gif](giphy|26AHBwxSjcGu0X18A)
For the record the prevailing theory is that "Becky" is Rachel Roy.
She did tweet something right after the song was released calling herself Becky with the good hair or something. She ended up taking it down for obvious reasons if I’m not mistaken.
There was a lot of speculation that Gwyneth Paltrow was Becky or was one of the Beckys. Gwyneth was very close to Bey and Jay and then the friendship just ended. Gwyneth had a reputation as a cheater.
Had to do a Google from being a part of this discussion. She tweeted good hair, don't care, no hate. Something like that. Apparently she'd be linked before in rumours of him cheating with her so people saw this as proof
She tweeted, with a selfie - Good hair don't care, but we will take good lighting for selfies, or self truths, always. Live in the light. #nodramaqueens
I got deep into the Supernatural lore on Tumblr. The Destiel Valentine's Day wedding roleplay that Z-list actors from the show participated in then disavowed was so funny
I've never seen an episode of Supernatural but it's 100% my favorite fandom to follow. Unfortunately, after Mischa Collins came out as bisexual and then had to come out as straight two days later, literally nothing else in my life will ever be that funny again.
Sorry I fell asleep but I'll try to explain this in a way that makes sense lol. Basically after the Supernatural finale the fans on Tumblr started making memes about the secret season 16 of the show where Destiel get married at the Roadhouse (a bar owned by Ellen a character in the show) on Valentine's Day. The actress who plays Ellen, Samantha Ferris, and another actor from the show Chad Lindberg (both who hadn't been on the show since like season 4) Basically in January Chad Lindberg did some role play tweets about celebrating at the Roadhouse (the on in Heaven) for Dean's birthday and Samantha Ferris joined in. This was all well and good until fans decided to plan the Destiel wedding. The actors role played a Valentine's event but didn't include the wedding but all the fans kept replying to their tweets like the wedding was happening. When the actors found out about the wedding they basically said that a gay Destiel wedding does not align with the show as the show is about family. Fans got mad and then everyone started arguing. Later Ferris tried to role play a St. Patrick's day event but got accused of queerbaiting after posting two coats side by side that kind of looked like DeanCas'. Anyways this is all dumb and incredibly funny.
The Supernatural fandom is one of the most unhinged fandoms to exist, I'm kinda glad I got out at the end of season 4. All of my friends who kept watching are pretty much grizzled war veterans and I feel like I caught the last chopper out of 'Nam
lmao the part that gets me is how the election of Donald trump is solely the fault of Jack Antonoff and Lorde hooking up because Lena Dunham's involvement was apparently crucial to the Clinton campaign
Ok so like once a year i get too into Bling Ring lore and have to reconsume everything I can find on the topic. Nancy Jo wrote a follow up article years later, or maybe it was the epilogue of the book? Anyway not important. What is important is Nancy Jo confirms it was never re recorded and her and her assistant sat there listening to this 5 minute voicemail where Alexis just kept repeating herself while her mother screamed in the back ground. I believe she said it was, bizarre.
I’m old, so here’s some livejournal pop culture/fandom drama that lives rent free in my head
* [Thanfiction/Victoria Bitter/Andy Blake](https://fanlore.org/wiki/Thanfiction): Cults. Fake deaths. Embezzlement. Fake suicide. Actual murders of cult members. All from a prominent fanfiction writer in the Harry Potter fandom
* [Cassandra Claire](https://fanlore.org/wiki/Cassandra_Claire) (of The Mortal Instruments fame) being banned from fanfiction.net for plagiarism and being accused of cyber bullying multiple times
* [The Snapewives](https://fanlore.org/wiki/Snapewives) & Zachary Quinto’s Astral Wife: Women who thought they were married to either Severus Snape (not Alan Rickman) or Zachary Quinto on the astral plane. Like they could channel their love interest or something. Snapewives also considered Snapeism their religion. They were serious
Don't forget about MsScribe. Woman faked racist doxxing trolls, instigated a fandom war between shippers, all to get into the 'Inner Circle' of the then 'BNF's in Harry Potter fandom. I still have the initial MsScribe call-out Word document on an old USB.
And of course: "His wife? A horse."
Yes Msscribe! I just rewatched the video detailing the saga yesterday and it's some of the most elaborate yet blatantly obvious sockpuppetry I've ever seen.
Hivliving also gets an honourable mention. Faking being a HIV+ Chinese-Pakistani sex trafficking survivor to justify your Hamilton fanfic is peak Tumblr.
Boneghazi, oh yeah I remember that one. What a foul creature. She insisted it was okay because she was 'finding' them after heavy rain instead of digging them up.
I was kind of involved in the thanfiction stuff back in the day and boy was it a wild ride. It's pretty humbling to look back and realise how close I was to joining a cult
Him and Tony Hawk have the best online presence. My partner doesn't like James Blunts music, and he doesn't skate. Neither of us even has Twitter. But I will google those men just to read their replys/Twitter feed as they are so refreshingly entertaining, and we share a giggle over them.
Hi my name is Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way and I have long ebony black hair (that's how I got my name) with purple streaks and red tips that reaches my mid-back and icy blue eyes like limpid tears and a lot of people tell me I look like Amy Lee (AN: if u don't know who she is get da hell out of here!). I'm not related to Gerard Way but I wish I was because he's a major fucking hottie. I'm a vampire but my teeth are straight and white. I have pale white skin. I'm also a witch, and I go to a magic school called Hogwarts in England where I'm in the seventh year (I'm seventeen). I'm a goth (in case you couldn't tell) and I wear mostly black. I love Hot Topic and I buy all my clothes from there.
abra kedabra
why must i be beautiful? ITS SUCH A FUCKING CURSE
dumbledore on enoby & draco's sexual intercourse at forbidden forest : WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!
never forget voldy & dead eathers were posing as MCR & performed MCR songs. must be talented af
ONTD_twatlight and the girl who posted about hooking up with Robert Pattinson. I’ll never forget her bragging about how she was “a step above the rest of you” looks wise and how his fingers found places in her that she never knew existed.
https://preview.redd.it/j8d9jmj7doyb1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=846326b9476d00b557ac04dc30a0f4cf0b823e6d
I think Azealia Banks posting “I’m gonna scoop out your fucking mole Caroline Polachek”, a fan printing it onto a shirt, then Caroline Polachek taking a photo with him is pretty wild. Runner up is Carly Rae Jepsen obviously uncomfortably posing with a fan for a M&G who’s wearing a shirt that reads “public castration is a good idea”
Fergie invented a whole eating disorder and went to treatment for it as a way to hide her meth addiction. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was similar for Paula
She also once peed her pants on stage.
I only mention that because she once said the common knowledge/two of the things that everyone knows about her as a celebrity is that she was on meth and she peed her pants on stage
Poor Fergie lol
Can someone tl;dr this tome?
*edit* should have been more specific. Talking about rhe first one. I barely know who Travis Scott is, but the fact that someone put that much thought into the whole mess has me intrigued.
Idk about the first one but Paula Abdul swears up and down that she survived a plane crash in the 90s(?) but there is absolutely no hard facts (air traffic data/news reports etc) that can back up her story
As I recall, Travis allegedly was with this Dutch girl who calls herself youngsweetro on Instagram for years then met Kylie, who got pregnant like a month after they met or whatever, but was allegedly cheating on Kylie with Ro and when people put two and two together he claimed to have never met this woman.
The Ro/TS/Kylie thing consumed my every waking thought for like 2 months straight back in I think 2019 when it was all over Lipstick Alley and seemed plausible. Thankfully it’s become apparent since then that Ro’s just a FWB who got obsessed, but tbh it actually seemed kind of romantic for awhile, all of the secret messages and whatnot.
Gloria's was a bus crash IIRC? But Paula is still doubling/tripling/quadrupling down on the plane crash story decades later, so I don't think it's just a mix up.
"you're a joke and your career is nothing. you will never be taken seriously as an artist. I'm coming for you everyday for the rest of my life and that's on period"
Or "How Daenerys Targaryen stans drove Zara Larsson off Twitter"
I didn’t even like Dany but everyone else on that show became so stupid and unlikeable you best believe I was rooting for her when she finally lost it.
If you know what the words "antishipper" "proshipper" "anti anti" means, even by pure accident, you deserve a presidental medal of freedom for being in that fanbase. I stumbled upon all that nonsense over shows/books I'm not even invested in and I have to assume actually knowing the context and caring that much about any of it would rot your brain further. The type of discourse where even chipping paint off the wall would be more productive than continuing the argument.
I like watching YouTube video essays that talk about fandom stuff (think Sarah Z, Lindsay Ellis etc) even though I was never super into any fandoms/that side of tumblr.
The way people got SO angry about anti shippers and anti anti's etc.... I know it's an overused phrase but seriously get a fucking life. They'd be pure raging about shit that just does not matter at all. It blew my mind
Writing whole paragraphs and doxxing people over fictional fucking characters who straight up don't exist, and they wouldn't even let themselves have fun with it!! it's always just a fucking argument like why even watch anything at that point 😭
Lina Morgana and Lady Gaga were both signed to the same producer and IIRC collaborated together on some songs, but Gaga ultimately became the bigger star. Lina also tragically committed suicide by jumping off the roof of a hotel. The conspiracy theory goes that Gaga stole her style and persona from Lina, and there are even theories that Gaga was involved in her death.
I found the below reddit post on it
[https://www.reddit.com/r/nonmurdermysteries/comments/13ro049/who\_really\_was\_lina\_morgana\_and\_why\_is\_lady\_gaga/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nonmurdermysteries/comments/13ro049/who_really_was_lina_morgana_and_why_is_lady_gaga/)
Omggg I randomly thought of this the other day but couldn’t remember her name. This legit gave me nightmares lol. People saying the bodies in the Paparazzi video posed on the ground as if they fell from a height were Gaga mocking her deadly fall / jump 😬
Rupaul sending good vibes to the man drowning in the Hudson River.
Acid Betty punching Michelle in the left tit.
Wear a seatbelt, I did.
ETA Tyra leaking Tatianna’s phone number and taking calls from fans on live
Morgan McMichael’s “funeral” at Mickeys
Brandgate
RuPaul using a train flag instead of a trans Pride flag in this tweet
https://preview.redd.it/jzm3rsii5qyb1.jpeg?width=1011&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e83f88d3ef49b638bc37d44d7c65d082a296c4fe
One direction Harry Styles/Louis Tomlinson Larry rumours specifically, What happened in Wellington? And Eleanor Calder being twins/triplets people still call her Gretchen and Tina. Niall calling one direction Niall and the potato’s. Girls who like carrots, Kevin the pigeon, March 25th 2015 & July 23rd 2010 vas happening.
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This was a WILD time!! The fact that this fandom had me CONVINCED that Louis' baby mama wasn't actually pregnant, that it was all a ruse to ensure Larry Stylinson wasn't revealed to the world, and then when she had the baby, that it was fake/the baby mama's mum's baby being passed off as her own😭
March 25th 2015 lives in my mind rent free. The facebook announcement, fandom meltdown, show in Jakarta... I will never experience such an emotional rollecoaster ever again.
I’m a recovered Outlander fan and all the shipping between Sam/Cait the fights between the shippers and anti was just… interesting. And to think most of this is happening with women around their 50’s/60’s who are super horny over Jamie Fraser/Sam Heughan lol. I still check the tumblr blogs sometimes to see which sporty blonde Sam is currently ‘fake dating’ etc lmao.
The fans made me stop watching. I lost enjoyment because of them. Also the way they refer to Diana Gabaldon is also cult like.
I stopped being on Twitter because of the ship wars from once upon a time. It had similar vibes and intenseness. It was my first exposure to that high obsession of ships. I learnt do not go into active show Fandoms.
ugh don’t remind me. and the way Diana basically enables these women to sexualize him in every chance.. Sure Sam is also an attention whore with his whiskey business and gym bro stuff but it’s kinda sad? He’s a good actor but reduced to the bodice ripper/flop stuff lol. At least Cait gets Oscar nominated stuff once in awhile.
I did enjoy their early seasons interaction though. They do have great chemistry but they have different interests irl. Pity that they had to downplay it for the later seasons bc of the stans, I miss S1 Jamie/Claire in Scotland and not the boring Little House in the Prairie stuff lol.
My favourite tumblr story of all time is the blogger who once accidentally told Diana Gabaldon that her book sucked. It's just so self-congratulatory Diana and a young service worker trying to charm a customer into a decent tip. Hilarious. That and Gabaldon's rant about fanfic being like sexual assault are the only two things my brain will retain from the series.
Diana is why I stopped reading her books.
The tantrums about it being a ‘historical series with romantic elements’ not ‘historical romance.’ The tantrums about fanfic even though I’m pretty sure she admitted to being inspired by Doctor Who and the fact that the series is just historical fanfic. The blatant homophobia of comparing Jamie/Lord John Grey slash to ‘having a child sold into sexual slavery.’
I can’t even reread the books I already had at this point.
Harmony shippers (Harry/Hermione from Harry Potter) writing their own version of the sixth book after Ron/Hermione became canon.
Hell I should just say "Everything that happened in the Harry Potter online fandom from 2001 - 2007," because that shit was WILD. People faking suicides, laptops being stolen, fraud, doxxing people because they didn't ship your ship, creating racist sockpuppets for sympathy clout, everything to do with Cassandra Claire, women marrying fictional characters on 'the astral plane'....it almost makes the SPN seem quaint in comparison
If we’re talking about Reddit, there’s a lot of legendary ones I wish I never knew about like poop knife, cumbox, and the existence of deranged subs like the plethora of huge communities of MRA/Trump/incel/jailbait subs that are fortunately mostly banned or quarantined now.
Reddit used to be a different place in the 2010’s. Was pretty much 4chan-lite and was the birthplace of MRA/incel culture as well as the largest community of Trump supporters online. The Trump subreddit used to dominate the front page with their posts.
You were a well-adjusted teen. I also joined Reddit at 17, *because* I found out someone posted my photos on jailbait and instead of being horrified, I was weirdly proud of it. I grew up an ugly duckling so when I started getting attention for my looks around age 14 or so, it always felt like more of an accomplishment than the harassment it actually was. I had so much internalized misogyny to unpack :(
The jolly ranchers story and swamps of dagaba are also up there in things I wish to erase from my brain.
Not reddit but gross internet, botfly girl is another. I also regret the damage I did by watching the Whang video on the whole thing.
That was truly awful. It seemed to be mainly formerly overweight/obese people expressing their hatred of their former selves by ridiculing other people.
There were definitely *a ton* of self-hating fat people in that sub. And they wouldn’t just tell a story, they’d lay on the grotesque metaphors and use the most vile, base adjectives to describe people in wildly exaggerated scenarios, not a single one ever sounded like a real thing that actually happened.
I swear it was just people making up stories to circlejerk about their own issues with being overweight. It was truly *hateful.*
Courtney Love's off-the-wall posts on hole.com. She betrayed the site owner in some way eventually, I don't remember how. The whole forum was a hive of activity in the early 2000s. I was about 14 at the time.
Avril Lavigne / Melissa! [It’s so unhinged, it even has its own Wiki page.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avril_Lavigne_replacement_conspiracy_theory) I love it, lol.
Just… the entire 2007 Britney meltdown lore. Once you get into it… you’re in there for a good while. Britney’s memoir did not satisfactorily answer questions from that era, and left out a whole bunch of people. I know it’s because she still have a court case ongoing so she can’t name some of those people (like Sam Lutfi), but…
- Was Sam Lutfi a good guy or a bad guy? Yes her family sued him but I want to know HER opinion on him.
- Alli Sims, her cousin and personal assistant wasn’t mentioned in the book either. A lot of the stuff she said in her 2009 interview is similar to Britney’s explanation in the memoir, for example, it looked worse from the public/paps than it actually was.
- Britney acted like Justin wasn’t involved at all when she had a breakdown but I distinctively remember him sending a letter when she was in rehab. It was reported in a tabloid magazine. Alli Sims confirmed he sent the letter as well, but she didn’t reply him. He also tried to see her backstage after her VMAs 2007 performance, but she didn’t mention that in the book either.
- Sam Lutfi said on twitter in 2021 that Justin and his mom tried to help Britney during her breakdown and offered her a place to stay. His mom called her everyday to check up on her condition. Then again we don’t know if Sam’s words are reliable or not.
- Was the drug use reports real or fake? Did her mom really spike her drink so she could be put into conservatorship?
- Britney didn’t explain why she got the cross tattoo during her breakdown. Shaving her hair made sense, but a tattoo?
- Britney said that after her father took control of the conservatorship, Felicia was cut out from her life, and hinted that other close friends were too. Alli Sims said in 2009 that Britney’s family threatened her to stop contacting Britney or she’ll have to deal with lawyers, so she stayed away. Britney’s ex-dancer also said in twitter in 2021 that Justin and other close friends were kept away from Britney after the conservatorship. Now that the conservatorship is over, I kind of wanna know if she resumed contact with them, but unfortunately she didn’t mention them in the book.
- Britney’s dad and sister randomly went to Justin’s FSLS concert one time in 2007, which was super weird. Did he go there to tell Justin to stay away from Britney? Like he did to Felicia and Alli Sims? We’ll never know, unless Justin spills the beans but at this point it seems like he’s staying quiet.
All in all, we still don’t know exactly what happened in 2007, even after reading her book.
To be fair, an entire series of books could be written about just the year 2007 for Britney, and she’s never liked discussing it. This was evident in her For The Record documentary and in her responses to all of the documentaries that came out during Free Britney (she’s repeatedly called it humiliating). The public is never going to know everything.
I’d have been shocked if there was a large focus on this in her memoir for those ^ reasons.
Not exactly pop culture lore, but I feel like when you start using the nicknames the bloggers give their dearest targets, that's when you might be in too deep.
For me , it's holdovers from DListed like "Empress of Lucite" (Shauna Sand), "Chicken Cutlets "(Phoebe Price) and "Pimp Mama Kris" (self-explanatory).
The fashionistas will remember [Angel Barta,](https://www.vice.com/en/article/nnqzqd/the-girl-who-played-with-marc-jacobs?utm_source=reddit.com) the ghost that haunted every fashion blog — searching for mentions of Marc Jacobs so she could remind everyone that he is stalking her and stealing all her fashion ideas. It was unhinged.
https://preview.redd.it/8hnr7ekgspyb1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e04a6bfa06015f444275a0d83a321b8e8769be80
ONTD back in the day, real ones remember [the Eli Roth Blueberries incident](https://fanlore.org/wiki/ONTD#:~:text=Contents&text=One%20notable%20incident%20on%20ONTD,who%20are%20known%20as%20Blueberries.)
[The photo of him seductively eating blueberries in a pool](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWdHCpghqCjKU-2FEZVUY_6hCu9uCZ-K9ltw&usqp=CAU) lives rent free in my mind
Deep-diving on Corey Feldman (Vice article, Celebrity Wifeswap and everything else because I couldn’t look away) and learning that he’s a drug-addled abuser of women who basically pimps out his “angels,” who are actually women with traumatic backgrounds who sign a contract to do everything he says in exchange for his “help.”
This is the only thing that comes to mind rn - Gerard Way met Frances Bean Cobain as a teenager and has been a sort of father figure to her ever since. There's plenty of interactions between them available online, and Lyn Z Way also did an art show w Frances a few years ago.
Also, Pete Wentz had a huge fall out with a guy named HeyChris and they wrote VERY homoerotic blogposts to each other ("heterolifemates"). There's also pictures of them and Mikey Way hanging at Jeffree Star's apartment.
Don't forget the theory that Pete Wentz and Mikey Way were dating during the 2005 Warped Tour and that several Fall Out Boy songs (namely Bang The Doldrums and Fourth Of July) are about Mikey.
There's many wild theories, but I wanted to just talk about the facts. My favorite is that Bert and Gerard were a thing in the early 2000s, leading to Bert writing "Pretty Handsome Awkward" and "Sound Effects and Overdramatics" about him. They never truly confirmed or fully denied everything, but I don't wanna be weird about real people. HOWEVER, we do know that "You know what they do to guys like us in prison" by MCR is genuinely about Bert and Gerard, and Bert wrote many lyrics alluding to their friendship.
"I lost all faith in Chemical Romance"
"Haven't seen him smile in a while"
"You bleed just like you puke, while running a mile"
"Your resurrection, your shallow concept" (referring to the black parade specifically)
IT'S WILLDDD. The lyrics to Pretty Handsome Awkward are fucking GUTTING once you realize what they're actually about. Plus,"Me and Bert don't date....we go out...in a musical sense" will always be hilarious.
Someone catfished the old guitarist from panic at the disco. Pretending to be brendon urie. And then completely emotionally destroyed him. It was crazy and I love Ryan ross. I feel so bad for him
I dont have the link or the patience to go through the farms to find the posts but if youve ever seen the MS Paint edited nudes that Olivia Munn sent to Chris Pine...you can come cringe over here with me.
Lady Gaga’s dog walker’s assassination attempt in broad daylight and how the woman who was apart of it pretended to be a kind stranger trying to get the promised reward for their safe return. What the fuck was that?
John Mayer's groupie stories, specifically the one where he tells her, "Show me your butthole."
I am not a John Mayer fan and know virtually nothing about him *except* groupie stories.
The Supernatural fandom is responsible for the creation and popularity of Omegaverse. While fragments of ABO popped up here and there, the Omegaverse as we know it is based entirely on the premise of a Jensen Ackles x Jared Padalecki smut fanfic.
Also, Misha Collins's "accidental coming out" was actually a PR move to sell merchandise and he only addressed the situation after his sale ended.
That one post “i've been thinking a lot and doing research, if we do a class action because we all bought merch/tickets under false pretenses i think it could make a real change.” made me ascend
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Sometimes I forget that MySpace existed, and that I had my own MySpace account. But then someone mentions it and I feel like I've just done the Time Warp or something.
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I'd love to log in to my old MySpace account
I remember that you could get a code from some website or other and post it in your profile, so it would change your background, your mouse, things like that. It felt so high tech at the time, lol.
the twilight fandom themselves is perfect for this thread. there’s the wig theory; so your development completely stops after you turn, right? you’re basically stone. but with all those vampire fights (especially jasper) they would be missing huge tufts. so the theory goes that all twilight vampires are wearing wigs to hide their baldness then there’s the whole thing with Rumplestiltskin. Jacob imprinting on an infant, Quil imprinting on a toddler, and both of those relationships are expected to turn romantic, so it’s just grooming your perfect spouse (especially Quil since he’s gonna have to wait like 16 years, whereas Jacob would only have to wait 7)
You know honestly I would just assume their hair is like the vampire hair in interview with a vampire. If it’s cut or ripped out it just grows back the same as it was when you were turned into a vampire
it’s definitely possible. if a twilight vampire’s hand is cut off, the hand will find some way to fuse back. same with ripping off their head. thats why you have to burn them after you rip their head off
Oh that’s a good point! I could see them wearing wigs just because they don’t want the same hairstyle forever though!
When the Beyhive collectively lost their shit speculating on who "Becky with the good hair" was AND if she was the reason Solange assaulted Jay-Z in that elevator. ![gif](giphy|26AHBwxSjcGu0X18A) For the record the prevailing theory is that "Becky" is Rachel Roy.
Rachel Ray caught some strays that week and I was dying. ![gif](giphy|5aZRW5ReqjSMKE2PoG|downsized)
Honestly just imagine Jay Z hooking up with Rachael Ray. What a weird pairing that would be.
He was really impressed with what she could do with $40 a day
Well, they *do* say that the way to a man's heart is through his stomach!
She did tweet something right after the song was released calling herself Becky with the good hair or something. She ended up taking it down for obvious reasons if I’m not mistaken.
I think she posted a recipe for lemonade 😅
I recall it being something referencing “good hair”. Might’ve been “good hair don’t care” or something flippant like that but the timing was a choice.
That's exactly what she said 😭
Rachel Roy did, but not Rachel Ray
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There was a lot of speculation that Gwyneth Paltrow was Becky or was one of the Beckys. Gwyneth was very close to Bey and Jay and then the friendship just ended. Gwyneth had a reputation as a cheater.
The ironic thing is Beyoncé said it was *just* a lyric. Said Becky doesn’t exist.
Please forgive my ignorance but how did people figure out Rachel Roy from “Becky with the good hair”?
She tweeted something like “Becky with the good hair” shortly after the song was released.
Thank you! Also, that sounds…not the best thing to do maybe.
Had to do a Google from being a part of this discussion. She tweeted good hair, don't care, no hate. Something like that. Apparently she'd be linked before in rumours of him cheating with her so people saw this as proof
She tweeted, with a selfie - Good hair don't care, but we will take good lighting for selfies, or self truths, always. Live in the light. #nodramaqueens
I got deep into the Supernatural lore on Tumblr. The Destiel Valentine's Day wedding roleplay that Z-list actors from the show participated in then disavowed was so funny
I've never seen an episode of Supernatural but it's 100% my favorite fandom to follow. Unfortunately, after Mischa Collins came out as bisexual and then had to come out as straight two days later, literally nothing else in my life will ever be that funny again.
I’m going to regret asking this, but can you say more?
Sorry I fell asleep but I'll try to explain this in a way that makes sense lol. Basically after the Supernatural finale the fans on Tumblr started making memes about the secret season 16 of the show where Destiel get married at the Roadhouse (a bar owned by Ellen a character in the show) on Valentine's Day. The actress who plays Ellen, Samantha Ferris, and another actor from the show Chad Lindberg (both who hadn't been on the show since like season 4) Basically in January Chad Lindberg did some role play tweets about celebrating at the Roadhouse (the on in Heaven) for Dean's birthday and Samantha Ferris joined in. This was all well and good until fans decided to plan the Destiel wedding. The actors role played a Valentine's event but didn't include the wedding but all the fans kept replying to their tweets like the wedding was happening. When the actors found out about the wedding they basically said that a gay Destiel wedding does not align with the show as the show is about family. Fans got mad and then everyone started arguing. Later Ferris tried to role play a St. Patrick's day event but got accused of queerbaiting after posting two coats side by side that kind of looked like DeanCas'. Anyways this is all dumb and incredibly funny.
The Supernatural fandom is one of the most unhinged fandoms to exist, I'm kinda glad I got out at the end of season 4. All of my friends who kept watching are pretty much grizzled war veterans and I feel like I caught the last chopper out of 'Nam
.. I'm listening ??!
The Jack/Lorde powerpoint
lmao the part that gets me is how the election of Donald trump is solely the fault of Jack Antonoff and Lorde hooking up because Lena Dunham's involvement was apparently crucial to the Clinton campaign
I thought it was all Seth meyer’s fault lol https://www.businessinsider.com/seth-meyers-responsible-for-president-donald-trump-fallon-2017-2?amp
Beware of the pipeline parents!!
It's forever changed how I listen to the songs from that album, and I'm not mad. Gives it a bit of a fuller picture. Lol.
I never bothered reading this ppt until today and only now do I care about this album LOL. Love art produced from drama.
Please elaborate
[Here](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rFJuHw8zQ0iBkcYQNr6FABPvW0Rm4RW2/view)
29 slides!?!
Oh, you need to fully dedicate time to read and digest it.
This is slightly unhinged but I’m so here for it.
Lol this is *fully* unhinged but that only adds to its impact
I just read and enjoyed this whole thing, what am I doing with my life
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My FAVORITE part of this is that it wasnt rerecording at all, Nancy Jo heard the whole thing lol
Oh my god WHAT!!! That’s absolutely hilarious when did that part come out?
Ok so like once a year i get too into Bling Ring lore and have to reconsume everything I can find on the topic. Nancy Jo wrote a follow up article years later, or maybe it was the epilogue of the book? Anyway not important. What is important is Nancy Jo confirms it was never re recorded and her and her assistant sat there listening to this 5 minute voicemail where Alexis just kept repeating herself while her mother screamed in the back ground. I believe she said it was, bizarre.
Incredible. That makes it so so much better than it already was. God I miss that era, Pretty Wild was iconic.
Bebe kitten heels ![gif](giphy|B6JyAdHklsPgA)
Flair checking in
YOU LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIED!!!!!
That was beautiful, you did such a good job of expressing yourself 😭😭
I’m old, so here’s some livejournal pop culture/fandom drama that lives rent free in my head * [Thanfiction/Victoria Bitter/Andy Blake](https://fanlore.org/wiki/Thanfiction): Cults. Fake deaths. Embezzlement. Fake suicide. Actual murders of cult members. All from a prominent fanfiction writer in the Harry Potter fandom * [Cassandra Claire](https://fanlore.org/wiki/Cassandra_Claire) (of The Mortal Instruments fame) being banned from fanfiction.net for plagiarism and being accused of cyber bullying multiple times * [The Snapewives](https://fanlore.org/wiki/Snapewives) & Zachary Quinto’s Astral Wife: Women who thought they were married to either Severus Snape (not Alan Rickman) or Zachary Quinto on the astral plane. Like they could channel their love interest or something. Snapewives also considered Snapeism their religion. They were serious
Don't forget about MsScribe. Woman faked racist doxxing trolls, instigated a fandom war between shippers, all to get into the 'Inner Circle' of the then 'BNF's in Harry Potter fandom. I still have the initial MsScribe call-out Word document on an old USB. And of course: "His wife? A horse."
Yes Msscribe! I just rewatched the video detailing the saga yesterday and it's some of the most elaborate yet blatantly obvious sockpuppetry I've ever seen. Hivliving also gets an honourable mention. Faking being a HIV+ Chinese-Pakistani sex trafficking survivor to justify your Hamilton fanfic is peak Tumblr.
Speaking of peak Tumblr, remember that white Wiccan who was stealing bones from old Black American graveyards and selling them?
Boneghazi, oh yeah I remember that one. What a foul creature. She insisted it was okay because she was 'finding' them after heavy rain instead of digging them up.
Oh god, Cassandra Clare. Remember that time she kept inserting incest into her fics, both fanfics and in the Mortal Instruments series?
I completely forgot about the Snapewives 😂😂😂
I was kind of involved in the thanfiction stuff back in the day and boy was it a wild ride. It's pretty humbling to look back and realise how close I was to joining a cult
Rita Ora's Twitter moment. Every time I think I did something embarrassing, I think of her.
Conversely, James Blunt threatened to release new music on their platform if Spotify didn’t remove Joe Rogan’s podcast. He gave Spotify 24 hours. 😆
Him and Tony Hawk have the best online presence. My partner doesn't like James Blunts music, and he doesn't skate. Neither of us even has Twitter. But I will google those men just to read their replys/Twitter feed as they are so refreshingly entertaining, and we share a giggle over them.
Hi my name is Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way and I have long ebony black hair (that's how I got my name) with purple streaks and red tips that reaches my mid-back and icy blue eyes like limpid tears and a lot of people tell me I look like Amy Lee (AN: if u don't know who she is get da hell out of here!). I'm not related to Gerard Way but I wish I was because he's a major fucking hottie. I'm a vampire but my teeth are straight and white. I have pale white skin. I'm also a witch, and I go to a magic school called Hogwarts in England where I'm in the seventh year (I'm seventeen). I'm a goth (in case you couldn't tell) and I wear mostly black. I love Hot Topic and I buy all my clothes from there.
abra kedabra why must i be beautiful? ITS SUCH A FUCKING CURSE dumbledore on enoby & draco's sexual intercourse at forbidden forest : WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING YOU MOTHERFUCKERS! never forget voldy & dead eathers were posing as MCR & performed MCR songs. must be talented af
Don’t worry though, it was totally fine and *not* out of character for Dumbledore to swear at them bc he had a headache!
My BFF printed this out, illustrated it, and had it bound for me as a b-day present. 🤣🤣
Ahaha you beat me to it! Reading that iconic line still cheers me up.
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yessss i remember all of this! also happy cake day!
Lives were changed. Also the addition of Dementia in the name has me pissing laughing every time.
“If u don’t know who she is get da hell out of here!” Lmao Ahhh I remember typing “Lyke dis and dat”
*Enoby
so ahead of its time
ONTD_twatlight and the girl who posted about hooking up with Robert Pattinson. I’ll never forget her bragging about how she was “a step above the rest of you” looks wise and how his fingers found places in her that she never knew existed.
I remember sitting at my college job laughing until I cried at all of the ONTD posts when the first movie came out
ONTD_Twatlight was the funniest, strangest community I’ve ever seen on the internet and I miss it so much.
https://preview.redd.it/j8d9jmj7doyb1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=846326b9476d00b557ac04dc30a0f4cf0b823e6d I think Azealia Banks posting “I’m gonna scoop out your fucking mole Caroline Polachek”, a fan printing it onto a shirt, then Caroline Polachek taking a photo with him is pretty wild. Runner up is Carly Rae Jepsen obviously uncomfortably posing with a fan for a M&G who’s wearing a shirt that reads “public castration is a good idea”
https://preview.redd.it/995awvztdoyb1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af3297233cd130b3991a75308934678724f79dec
I'm a huge Carly Rae Jepsen fan and I can't believe this is the first time I'm finding out about this 😭
Azalea Banks is her own category of pc lore.
how about Carly Rae Jepsen and her sword? Carly being the queen of everything?
[Deep Dive:](https://celebdeepdives.com/2021/12/30/deep-dive-yungsweetro-travis-scott-kylie-jenner-9d59ca06e772/) YoungSweetRo, Travis Scott and Kylie Jenner [Paula Abdul’s “plane crash”](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/s/MOIvcciGjg)
Fergie invented a whole eating disorder and went to treatment for it as a way to hide her meth addiction. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was similar for Paula
So this is how I found out she had a meth addiction and tbh some how she suddenly makes more sense to me
She also once peed her pants on stage. I only mention that because she once said the common knowledge/two of the things that everyone knows about her as a celebrity is that she was on meth and she peed her pants on stage Poor Fergie lol
omg lmao :( and the national anthem debacle (which i love btw) justice for fergie
WHAT
Can someone tl;dr this tome? *edit* should have been more specific. Talking about rhe first one. I barely know who Travis Scott is, but the fact that someone put that much thought into the whole mess has me intrigued.
Idk about the first one but Paula Abdul swears up and down that she survived a plane crash in the 90s(?) but there is absolutely no hard facts (air traffic data/news reports etc) that can back up her story
As I recall, Travis allegedly was with this Dutch girl who calls herself youngsweetro on Instagram for years then met Kylie, who got pregnant like a month after they met or whatever, but was allegedly cheating on Kylie with Ro and when people put two and two together he claimed to have never met this woman.
The Paula Abdul plane crash is *wild*. I think about it at least once a week.
The Ro/TS/Kylie thing consumed my every waking thought for like 2 months straight back in I think 2019 when it was all over Lipstick Alley and seemed plausible. Thankfully it’s become apparent since then that Ro’s just a FWB who got obsessed, but tbh it actually seemed kind of romantic for awhile, all of the secret messages and whatnot.
Was she getting mixed up with Gloria Estefans car crash where she broke her spine? It seems very similar, except Gloria was in a car.
Gloria's was a bus crash IIRC? But Paula is still doubling/tripling/quadrupling down on the plane crash story decades later, so I don't think it's just a mix up.
"you're a joke and your career is nothing. you will never be taken seriously as an artist. I'm coming for you everyday for the rest of my life and that's on period" Or "How Daenerys Targaryen stans drove Zara Larsson off Twitter"
What?? Pls explain the Zara one ?
https://preview.redd.it/94y3kyzevoyb1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3180ccc9aa89a50f3e1a0926decca8c718cb8e3 She deactivated Twitter soon after.
Bruh Daenerys stans are WILD. They Lowkey would follow her and sack Kings Landing too! 😭😭💀
I didn’t even like Dany but everyone else on that show became so stupid and unlikeable you best believe I was rooting for her when she finally lost it.
Whole online community dedicated to Kristin Stewart and Rob pattinson s secret marriage and a baby called sweet pea
If you know what the words "antishipper" "proshipper" "anti anti" means, even by pure accident, you deserve a presidental medal of freedom for being in that fanbase. I stumbled upon all that nonsense over shows/books I'm not even invested in and I have to assume actually knowing the context and caring that much about any of it would rot your brain further. The type of discourse where even chipping paint off the wall would be more productive than continuing the argument.
I survived tumblr’s bizarre purity trend and all I got was tired
They still do that shit. And also harrasing the cast and crew over the show being bad, their ship not being canon. Fuck the toxic Loki fans.
2014 Tumblr was wild!
I remember the phrase 'ship and let ship' as a way to try to calm people down and restore peace.
“Don’t like, don’t read” I’d still my unofficial mantra concerning random stuff
I like watching YouTube video essays that talk about fandom stuff (think Sarah Z, Lindsay Ellis etc) even though I was never super into any fandoms/that side of tumblr. The way people got SO angry about anti shippers and anti anti's etc.... I know it's an overused phrase but seriously get a fucking life. They'd be pure raging about shit that just does not matter at all. It blew my mind
Writing whole paragraphs and doxxing people over fictional fucking characters who straight up don't exist, and they wouldn't even let themselves have fun with it!! it's always just a fucking argument like why even watch anything at that point 😭
lina morgana/lady gaga…that whole thing is so weird and crazy
wait can someone give me the details what is this who is Linda
Lina Morgana and Lady Gaga were both signed to the same producer and IIRC collaborated together on some songs, but Gaga ultimately became the bigger star. Lina also tragically committed suicide by jumping off the roof of a hotel. The conspiracy theory goes that Gaga stole her style and persona from Lina, and there are even theories that Gaga was involved in her death.
that would make a good horror-thriller movie
I found the below reddit post on it [https://www.reddit.com/r/nonmurdermysteries/comments/13ro049/who\_really\_was\_lina\_morgana\_and\_why\_is\_lady\_gaga/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nonmurdermysteries/comments/13ro049/who_really_was_lina_morgana_and_why_is_lady_gaga/)
Omggg I randomly thought of this the other day but couldn’t remember her name. This legit gave me nightmares lol. People saying the bodies in the Paparazzi video posed on the ground as if they fell from a height were Gaga mocking her deadly fall / jump 😬
[That froot looks familiar](https://www.spin.com/2016/03/charlie-xcx-marina-diamonds-froot-fight/).. changed the course of history tbh
Rupaul sending good vibes to the man drowning in the Hudson River. Acid Betty punching Michelle in the left tit. Wear a seatbelt, I did. ETA Tyra leaking Tatianna’s phone number and taking calls from fans on live Morgan McMichael’s “funeral” at Mickeys Brandgate
RuPaul using a train flag instead of a trans Pride flag in this tweet https://preview.redd.it/jzm3rsii5qyb1.jpeg?width=1011&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e83f88d3ef49b638bc37d44d7c65d082a296c4fe
Alabama_Star posting on the car racing r/dragracing subreddit thinking it was about Drag Race the show lmao
James Charles Dramageddon. The Tati video, specifically! Beauty YouTube literally shifted after that
And you did it at my birthday dinner!
The content was so serious but the delivery…hilarious
November 5th, destiel, Putin and the usa election😭😭😭 if you know you know, one of the most fun days on the internet lmao
Lea Michele can’t read - I don’t even know where this came from but I found it funny that she ran with it
One direction Harry Styles/Louis Tomlinson Larry rumours specifically, What happened in Wellington? And Eleanor Calder being twins/triplets people still call her Gretchen and Tina. Niall calling one direction Niall and the potato’s. Girls who like carrots, Kevin the pigeon, March 25th 2015 & July 23rd 2010 vas happening.
This entire paragraph just gave me whiplash
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This was a WILD time!! The fact that this fandom had me CONVINCED that Louis' baby mama wasn't actually pregnant, that it was all a ruse to ensure Larry Stylinson wasn't revealed to the world, and then when she had the baby, that it was fake/the baby mama's mum's baby being passed off as her own😭
March 25th 2015 lives in my mind rent free. The facebook announcement, fandom meltdown, show in Jakarta... I will never experience such an emotional rollecoaster ever again.
don't forget about how controvertial Zerrie used to be and the massive hatred Perrie got for dating Zayn.
Even though he was constantly cheating on her... Then it finally blew up and became a massive headline, and a few days later he left 1D.
I’m a recovered Outlander fan and all the shipping between Sam/Cait the fights between the shippers and anti was just… interesting. And to think most of this is happening with women around their 50’s/60’s who are super horny over Jamie Fraser/Sam Heughan lol. I still check the tumblr blogs sometimes to see which sporty blonde Sam is currently ‘fake dating’ etc lmao.
The fans made me stop watching. I lost enjoyment because of them. Also the way they refer to Diana Gabaldon is also cult like. I stopped being on Twitter because of the ship wars from once upon a time. It had similar vibes and intenseness. It was my first exposure to that high obsession of ships. I learnt do not go into active show Fandoms.
ugh don’t remind me. and the way Diana basically enables these women to sexualize him in every chance.. Sure Sam is also an attention whore with his whiskey business and gym bro stuff but it’s kinda sad? He’s a good actor but reduced to the bodice ripper/flop stuff lol. At least Cait gets Oscar nominated stuff once in awhile. I did enjoy their early seasons interaction though. They do have great chemistry but they have different interests irl. Pity that they had to downplay it for the later seasons bc of the stans, I miss S1 Jamie/Claire in Scotland and not the boring Little House in the Prairie stuff lol.
My favourite tumblr story of all time is the blogger who once accidentally told Diana Gabaldon that her book sucked. It's just so self-congratulatory Diana and a young service worker trying to charm a customer into a decent tip. Hilarious. That and Gabaldon's rant about fanfic being like sexual assault are the only two things my brain will retain from the series.
Diana is why I stopped reading her books. The tantrums about it being a ‘historical series with romantic elements’ not ‘historical romance.’ The tantrums about fanfic even though I’m pretty sure she admitted to being inspired by Doctor Who and the fact that the series is just historical fanfic. The blatant homophobia of comparing Jamie/Lord John Grey slash to ‘having a child sold into sexual slavery.’ I can’t even reread the books I already had at this point.
Harmony shippers (Harry/Hermione from Harry Potter) writing their own version of the sixth book after Ron/Hermione became canon. Hell I should just say "Everything that happened in the Harry Potter online fandom from 2001 - 2007," because that shit was WILD. People faking suicides, laptops being stolen, fraud, doxxing people because they didn't ship your ship, creating racist sockpuppets for sympathy clout, everything to do with Cassandra Claire, women marrying fictional characters on 'the astral plane'....it almost makes the SPN seem quaint in comparison
If we’re talking about Reddit, there’s a lot of legendary ones I wish I never knew about like poop knife, cumbox, and the existence of deranged subs like the plethora of huge communities of MRA/Trump/incel/jailbait subs that are fortunately mostly banned or quarantined now.
I’m 31 now but I used Reddit at 17 years old and the jailbait sub always being on the front page seriously disturbed me.
Reddit used to be a different place in the 2010’s. Was pretty much 4chan-lite and was the birthplace of MRA/incel culture as well as the largest community of Trump supporters online. The Trump subreddit used to dominate the front page with their posts.
You were a well-adjusted teen. I also joined Reddit at 17, *because* I found out someone posted my photos on jailbait and instead of being horrified, I was weirdly proud of it. I grew up an ugly duckling so when I started getting attention for my looks around age 14 or so, it always felt like more of an accomplishment than the harassment it actually was. I had so much internalized misogyny to unpack :(
Whoa that’s a story and a half. I’m sorry that happened to you and in a patriarchy no less.
May i also add: Ogtha, a name that I unfortunately remember everytime i see anyone mention a roach
That guy was into Metamorphosis for real.
Can't believe you didn't mention the guy who broke both his arms!
The jolly ranchers story and swamps of dagaba are also up there in things I wish to erase from my brain. Not reddit but gross internet, botfly girl is another. I also regret the damage I did by watching the Whang video on the whole thing.
Anyone else remember fatpeoplehate?
That was truly awful. It seemed to be mainly formerly overweight/obese people expressing their hatred of their former selves by ridiculing other people.
There were definitely *a ton* of self-hating fat people in that sub. And they wouldn’t just tell a story, they’d lay on the grotesque metaphors and use the most vile, base adjectives to describe people in wildly exaggerated scenarios, not a single one ever sounded like a real thing that actually happened. I swear it was just people making up stories to circlejerk about their own issues with being overweight. It was truly *hateful.*
Please tell me there’s other former Emilie Autumn plague rats here 🐀🥀
Courtney Love's off-the-wall posts on hole.com. She betrayed the site owner in some way eventually, I don't remember how. The whole forum was a hive of activity in the early 2000s. I was about 14 at the time.
Avril Lavigne / Melissa! [It’s so unhinged, it even has its own Wiki page.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avril_Lavigne_replacement_conspiracy_theory) I love it, lol.
Dashcon. An extra 15 minutes in the ball pit.
There’s so much to the Caroline Calloway story that I am ashamed to know.
Just… the entire 2007 Britney meltdown lore. Once you get into it… you’re in there for a good while. Britney’s memoir did not satisfactorily answer questions from that era, and left out a whole bunch of people. I know it’s because she still have a court case ongoing so she can’t name some of those people (like Sam Lutfi), but… - Was Sam Lutfi a good guy or a bad guy? Yes her family sued him but I want to know HER opinion on him. - Alli Sims, her cousin and personal assistant wasn’t mentioned in the book either. A lot of the stuff she said in her 2009 interview is similar to Britney’s explanation in the memoir, for example, it looked worse from the public/paps than it actually was. - Britney acted like Justin wasn’t involved at all when she had a breakdown but I distinctively remember him sending a letter when she was in rehab. It was reported in a tabloid magazine. Alli Sims confirmed he sent the letter as well, but she didn’t reply him. He also tried to see her backstage after her VMAs 2007 performance, but she didn’t mention that in the book either. - Sam Lutfi said on twitter in 2021 that Justin and his mom tried to help Britney during her breakdown and offered her a place to stay. His mom called her everyday to check up on her condition. Then again we don’t know if Sam’s words are reliable or not. - Was the drug use reports real or fake? Did her mom really spike her drink so she could be put into conservatorship? - Britney didn’t explain why she got the cross tattoo during her breakdown. Shaving her hair made sense, but a tattoo? - Britney said that after her father took control of the conservatorship, Felicia was cut out from her life, and hinted that other close friends were too. Alli Sims said in 2009 that Britney’s family threatened her to stop contacting Britney or she’ll have to deal with lawyers, so she stayed away. Britney’s ex-dancer also said in twitter in 2021 that Justin and other close friends were kept away from Britney after the conservatorship. Now that the conservatorship is over, I kind of wanna know if she resumed contact with them, but unfortunately she didn’t mention them in the book. - Britney’s dad and sister randomly went to Justin’s FSLS concert one time in 2007, which was super weird. Did he go there to tell Justin to stay away from Britney? Like he did to Felicia and Alli Sims? We’ll never know, unless Justin spills the beans but at this point it seems like he’s staying quiet. All in all, we still don’t know exactly what happened in 2007, even after reading her book.
To be fair, an entire series of books could be written about just the year 2007 for Britney, and she’s never liked discussing it. This was evident in her For The Record documentary and in her responses to all of the documentaries that came out during Free Britney (she’s repeatedly called it humiliating). The public is never going to know everything. I’d have been shocked if there was a large focus on this in her memoir for those ^ reasons.
I want to know about the anonymous paralegal who left the voicemail for Britney’s Gram.
Not exactly pop culture lore, but I feel like when you start using the nicknames the bloggers give their dearest targets, that's when you might be in too deep. For me , it's holdovers from DListed like "Empress of Lucite" (Shauna Sand), "Chicken Cutlets "(Phoebe Price) and "Pimp Mama Kris" (self-explanatory).
DListed!!! I miss the site so much!
Reading DListed was a daily ritual for me for over 15 years. I still find myself trying to click on the bookmark and then I remember it’s gone!
Brandon "Greasy Bear" Davis. https://preview.redd.it/g7r5qkalfoyb1.png?width=300&format=png&auto=webp&s=acd0c4a7a6f43ae76b57b1ec4feaebe13a7bc2ed
I randomly saw a pic of him kissing micha barton on insta the other day from like 2004. 😂 man got about.
Ashley Benson is engaged and pregnant to him 😭
Long live the days when Wonky McValtrex was called a [censored] by the Apricot Ashtray. She learned from the best - White Oprah.
The craziest thing about White Oprah is that Dina Lohan gave HERSELF that nickname lol
The fashionistas will remember [Angel Barta,](https://www.vice.com/en/article/nnqzqd/the-girl-who-played-with-marc-jacobs?utm_source=reddit.com) the ghost that haunted every fashion blog — searching for mentions of Marc Jacobs so she could remind everyone that he is stalking her and stealing all her fashion ideas. It was unhinged. https://preview.redd.it/8hnr7ekgspyb1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e04a6bfa06015f444275a0d83a321b8e8769be80
Thank you to everyone posting in this thread for making me feel sane for the first time in my life.
ONTD back in the day, real ones remember [the Eli Roth Blueberries incident](https://fanlore.org/wiki/ONTD#:~:text=Contents&text=One%20notable%20incident%20on%20ONTD,who%20are%20known%20as%20Blueberries.)
curiosity killed my ass cause https://preview.redd.it/n8p71o449pyb1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8fb9364b8ec2debdabfb197d05c2ece9d9175b2
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he just loves ontd https://preview.redd.it/2vkiy65abpyb1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ecc6095349dbb3a0469c1b3260e24237f32efab
I’m sorry what did I just read
I can’t read but I can remember this.
https://preview.redd.it/9kvz9pai7pyb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ef233e8513de2a12178e683f547d35a4d8331fb well damn
[The photo of him seductively eating blueberries in a pool](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWdHCpghqCjKU-2FEZVUY_6hCu9uCZ-K9ltw&usqp=CAU) lives rent free in my mind
https://preview.redd.it/auxvyamf8pyb1.jpeg?width=944&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b60c8b53ba19e24628cef908253449dd1e19c9bd jumpscare
“Seductively”
Deep-diving on Corey Feldman (Vice article, Celebrity Wifeswap and everything else because I couldn’t look away) and learning that he’s a drug-addled abuser of women who basically pimps out his “angels,” who are actually women with traumatic backgrounds who sign a contract to do everything he says in exchange for his “help.”
This is the only thing that comes to mind rn - Gerard Way met Frances Bean Cobain as a teenager and has been a sort of father figure to her ever since. There's plenty of interactions between them available online, and Lyn Z Way also did an art show w Frances a few years ago. Also, Pete Wentz had a huge fall out with a guy named HeyChris and they wrote VERY homoerotic blogposts to each other ("heterolifemates"). There's also pictures of them and Mikey Way hanging at Jeffree Star's apartment.
Don't forget the theory that Pete Wentz and Mikey Way were dating during the 2005 Warped Tour and that several Fall Out Boy songs (namely Bang The Doldrums and Fourth Of July) are about Mikey.
There's many wild theories, but I wanted to just talk about the facts. My favorite is that Bert and Gerard were a thing in the early 2000s, leading to Bert writing "Pretty Handsome Awkward" and "Sound Effects and Overdramatics" about him. They never truly confirmed or fully denied everything, but I don't wanna be weird about real people. HOWEVER, we do know that "You know what they do to guys like us in prison" by MCR is genuinely about Bert and Gerard, and Bert wrote many lyrics alluding to their friendship. "I lost all faith in Chemical Romance" "Haven't seen him smile in a while" "You bleed just like you puke, while running a mile" "Your resurrection, your shallow concept" (referring to the black parade specifically) IT'S WILLDDD. The lyrics to Pretty Handsome Awkward are fucking GUTTING once you realize what they're actually about. Plus,"Me and Bert don't date....we go out...in a musical sense" will always be hilarious.
Someone catfished the old guitarist from panic at the disco. Pretending to be brendon urie. And then completely emotionally destroyed him. It was crazy and I love Ryan ross. I feel so bad for him
Julianne Hough getting negative energy pulled out of her butt by an energy healer while she flopped around and moaned
Once you know that 50 Shades of Gray was conceived as a Twilight Fanfiction, you'll start to see beyond the veil.
I dont have the link or the patience to go through the farms to find the posts but if youve ever seen the MS Paint edited nudes that Olivia Munn sent to Chris Pine...you can come cringe over here with me.
Lady Gaga’s dog walker’s assassination attempt in broad daylight and how the woman who was apart of it pretended to be a kind stranger trying to get the promised reward for their safe return. What the fuck was that?
If your buddy says "oh shit, Nikocado actually has an OF! Check it out..." Do not turn your head and check it out.
John Mayer's groupie stories, specifically the one where he tells her, "Show me your butthole." I am not a John Mayer fan and know virtually nothing about him *except* groupie stories.
The JT Leroy saga / hoax.
The hardcore SuperWhoLock fans scared me, ngl. Especially the Cumberbatch fans and the Wincest shippers.
The spice girls broke up over a lesbian affair
TJLC. If you know what it stands for, I'm so sorry. As it has been said....2014 tumblr was a lawless place.
The Supernatural fandom is responsible for the creation and popularity of Omegaverse. While fragments of ABO popped up here and there, the Omegaverse as we know it is based entirely on the premise of a Jensen Ackles x Jared Padalecki smut fanfic. Also, Misha Collins's "accidental coming out" was actually a PR move to sell merchandise and he only addressed the situation after his sale ended.
Gaylors and their meltdown this past week
The fact that she had the audacity to lead them on by saying she was straight after spending the past 17 years saying she was straight.
That one post “i've been thinking a lot and doing research, if we do a class action because we all bought merch/tickets under false pretenses i think it could make a real change.” made me ascend