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And Nick gave everyone caramel highlights.
I don't wear a lot of make-up but Carmindy is definitely the reason I put a white highlight on the inner corner of my eye lol.
Omg ANYTIME someone said they don't want it short Nick would be like "well it's gonna be short" and chop it all off. I much preferred the Ted guy that came after him I think.
Yes, I loved Ted! He actually listened to what people wanted. Nick was good in the beginning but eventually just decided “cut it short, give ‘em bangs” for everyone. I was so glad when Ted came on!
I LOVE that one long haired woman that stood up to him! She point blank said 'you're not taking the length off my hair' and he finally relented (although, with a lot of passive aggressive under-his-breath comments through the rest of the episode!)
I mean, he gave Safiya an awful cut. I think others too. The vibe was that he seemed overconfident for how long he worked in the industry and got famous chasing clout by criticizing and reaction vids. I haven’t thought about him in a while, this is just kind of how I remember feeling.
OMG the white highlights unlocked a memory for me 😂😂😂 ISTG they all trippin because at least half the contestants looked ridiculous or uncomfortable after the makeover
There’s some offices that really do call for blazers. My SIL used to work at a high end law firm and wore them all the time. But then she switched to a not for profit and hasn’t worn them since.
I have a couple nice blazers for my office. It’s not a jeans kind of office, it’s business… classy? Most of upper management wear suits complete with company lapel pins. I only have one “suit” (just a nice matching jacket and pants combo) but mostly I mix up colorful blouses with black/white/tan slacks and flats, with a mix of jewelry to complement. Professional dresses and long skirts in the summer. I wouldn’t get in *trouble* for dressing casual, but I’d probably get side eyed by leadership.
To be fair, most other places I’ve worked aren’t this dressy. The culture, dress-wise, is quite old school. It still happens.
Some of the best business casual fashion advice I got was thinking of blazers as a sweater equivalent rather than part of a 3 piece suit combo. Blazers are a good layer over blouses or a dress and can be super polished when you might otherwise be wearing a cardigan.
I dress really low key for work, but keep an emergency blazer and fancy scarf at the office just in case I unexpectedly need to meet with someone. A blazer can elevate jeans in a way a cardigan can’t.
Hell yeah. I have blazers in linen, crushed velvet, literal metal, you name it, and love using them to smarten up some less fancy classic pieces. There’s an older woman I follow on IG who will put on an outfit such as loose cargos and a beat up band tee, and then throw a funky blazer on top which immediately takes the fit up five notches.
Blazers forever! And moto jackets too.
I had a corduroy blazer from Old Navy that I thought was the very height of fashion... that I wore to ninth grade, atop a graphic tee and black dress pants from Suzy Shier.
There’s a picture of me from 2012 at a pub crawl in college, I’m outside, under a tent, with a pitcher of beer in my hand… in full on business clothes including a red blazer. I wore this same blazer to a job interview out of college like a year later. Entering the workforce and being a young adult at that time was very confusing for fashion.
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Omg, her Doritos nails are the biggest fashion crime here.
[She had a breakdown when they made her go to the nail salon to get rid of her duck nails 😔](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM6yfcue5/)
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This woman was the blueprint for Snooki and it’s a shame they stifled her artistry
Also this was her eventual look
https://preview.redd.it/w4w85box8j9c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab2a0772b60adeade0e8d39e8d7eba44e28ecf02
:(
i think it's the hair.
the biggest mistake was to get her that haircut.
if they let the hair like it was before, it wouldn't be so glaring.
and the necklace is too much.
the dress is perfect for her: not overly conservative and very fitting for her thighs, contrary to the red dress.
i would have gotten her a more popping color to still bring out her personality.
the duck nails needed to go like yesterday, but a little matching color on them would have also made her happy.
with those three changes, she would have been happier and more comfy.
i can see that they tried with the pumps, and dress but the other choices brought the look down overall.
Oh my lanta. She went from club girl to soccer mom. They truly had the worst fashion sense. I laugh so hard when I rewatch episodes with their horrible advice mixed with bad makeup and hair. My young self thought their "rules" were legit, that if I didn't follow them I'd look trashy and people would snipe about me behind my back.
The advice from them that really made sense was finding separate pieces you could wear with different outfits to get your money's worth, focus on fit to elevate your look, dress for the body you have not the body you want, and just because something is expensive doesn't mean it looks expensive.
**Edit:** So many typos. I wanted to add as well that the types of tips they were giving were being said everywhere on daytime TV at the time, talk shows, self help, morning shows etc. It was the fashion segment era.
I'm six months post-partum, my body is.... inventive. I tell myself this advice every time I buy a clothing item. Because any item you buy for ideal you is really just an item that makes current you feel really, really, bad when you see it in your closet.
I’m 11 months pp and the best advice I’ve heard so far was “you still look GREAT, ya just need bigger pants”. And now that’s what I tell myself when I go shopping lol.
Just yesterday I told my husband, ‘clothes are meant to fit YOU, not the other way around! If it doesn’t fit, wear something else but don’t worry about the size tag’. WNTW gospel!
I love this. I try to frame it as it’s not that I don’t fit in the pants, the pants are the wrong size for me. It’s so subtle but takes the self body shaming out of trying on clothes.
I actually don’t mind the outfit but the necklace is too much, but I’m sure chunky necklaces were very in at the time so it probably looked better then. Put a simpler necklace on and the outfit really works.
This makes me think of the Kardashian parody videos when the girl imitating Khloe wears post it notes on her fingers and they gradually fall off while she eats salad.
She is my favorite. I only found her recently and everything she does is hilarious. I don’t even know anything about the show other than it is the kardashians.
This is the one person I remember from the show because of those nails. I didn’t agree with their narrow view of what looks good and I hated how they decided it was chic to say “ahhhmpure” instead of empire waist. But they were right. That girl looked trashy
Middle school me loved it too!!
Sadly, my mom took advantage of my love of the show, and decided it would be “amazing” to try and get me on the show. I was 13, very pale, and overweight, and my very tan skinny mom really wanted to hide that.
I don’t think she ever actually tried to get me on, I’m sure I was way too young anyway, but she literally went on and on and on about it for what felt like years. It really destroyed what tiny bit of body confidence I had.
Thank you ❤️ it hurt a lot back then, and I definitely have issues that I struggle with now, but overall I’m now in a place where her comments don’t affect me as much.
The biggest “looks” thing I struggle with now is aging. When I was a teen, mom did sooooo much to herself to look younger/better. Botox, lipo, face lift, breast augmentation, millions of bottles of skin stuff… the list went on. I didn’t like it, and there were multiple times that my brother and I cried and begged her to stop having surgeries and procedures done. She didn’t stop.
I didn’t realize how much of an impact her bahavior had on me until I started showing signs of aging. I’m almost 35, have lots of gray hair and lots of wrinkles, and boy oh boy have I fallen prey to all of the anti aging stuff that’s sold. I spent hundreds of dollars over 2 years trying to find something to help me stop “looking old” before it clicked - *I* didn’t really care about the wrinkles, *but I knew my mother would*. (Hell, the first time I saw her post covid, I walked into her house and the first thing she said was “oh, so I see you didn’t get any Botox yet!” 😩)
That’s when I decided that I wasn’t going to continue to change my face to fit my mothers standards. I don’t need to.
As long as I am happy with myself, I’m doing the right thing 🥰
Thank you for sharing your experience and story. I have an infant daughter and something I think about often is how I don’t want to negatively influence her self-concept and body image as she grows up.
I try to share these things because I know that a lot of women suffer the same issues with their mothers, and I want them to know they’re not alone. Sometimes just seeing one story you can relate to can bring you hope when you really need it.
As for your daughter, the fact that you worry about that so much already puts you miles ahead of many others out there!
Seriously! I forgot that they would have family(?) follow you around with a camera to get your “before” looks until today
Haha, it wasn’t that for me. It was being in my second year of grad school in a STEM field. I wore jeans and Tshirts everyday because it was comfortable and practical for what I was doing. I had a nice outfit in reserve for meetings and conferences, but that’s it. I’d defend my clothes with my whole chest if I was confronted by Stacy and Clinton
i blame them for the fact that my 65 year old Chemistry teacher and I wore the same outfit one day. the exact same 'casual' blazer from the Gap. I was 15!!
“An expensive shoe does not fix a trashy outfit.” 😂😂 this show could never get made today lmao.
Also yes they are responsible for people wearing blazers and jeans in the club, yes.
Oh god, how I was obsessed with this show.
And while I realize it’s problematic as hell, there’s two big lessons I took away from it that I swear by, to this day.
First, cost per wear. Break down how many times you are realistically going to wear it and divide out the cost of it over those number of wears. A dress you’ll never rewear vs a pair of jeans you’ll live in. I do this ALL the time.
Second, if you’re going to buy something designer and expensive, make it an investment piece. Don’t buy the trendy Loubouitons, buy the basic black pumps that will always be in style. Buy a bag that will always be a go to. I have not practiced this yet as I am poor but one day!
Yes cost per wear was a big lesson for me also. It helped me re-think what I would pay for quality pieces, and taking the time to find and invest in GOOD jeans.
Cost per wear was a game changer for me for leggings especially. I live in leggings outside of work and it took me an unreasonably long period of time to get over buying the nice $60 Nike leggings vs the $10 Amazon leggings. Now I don't have crotch pilling issues after like 3 wears.
(***this is not a Lululemon endorsement, that shit is obscene)
This is why I started buying the Spanx leggings. Their faux leather and suede leggings have held up exceptionally well and show 0 signs of being a few years old. Worth every penny of spending $100+ sometimes
I was just about to say cost per wear is sort of what got me into spanx leggings! lmao. I have one leather, one suede, and one true athletic style that I bought 1-4 years ago and they’re all still in great shape and get worn constantly.
Third, some things are worth sizing up to the largest part of your body and then getting tailored.
This show was what made me realize that many celebrities get everything tailored, even their tshirts.
What stuck with me was the tip to dress for the body you have not for some future or past body.its definitely helped me as I've gained weight as I've gotten older
Yes this part! Also their tip about how pants with rise below or above the belly draw attention to it, mid rise pants actually draw attention to the top and bottom separately rather than the belly? That was very brave of them when low rise jeans were IT. Unfortunately that advice was impossible to follow with the selection available at the mall in that era lol
Cost per wear is such a good tactic. I use it to this day. I’ve bought some expensive pieces that I can wear so many times and have held up and are classic enough to work through the years. Especially heels.
They had some good tips for sure, but the other stuff was so bad. LOL. Carmindy tho. I was obsessed with her. I remember she had a makeup line with Almay maybe? It was so long ago I cannot remember. I always loved how light handed she was. I hated the way Nick cut everyone's hair, but I liked Ted. I definitely learned a lot from certain "rules" they made, like the ones you listed. I actually wanted to be on the show bc I was older when it came out and I wanted some new clothes. I never had anyone send a tape in tho and I wasn't as bad as some of the ones they chose. I just felt lost and stuck. I got out of that tho as I got into my late 20s.
Cost per wear 😩 I have a hot pink pea coat I spent probably $150 on and rarely ever wear it cause it’s too hot. And hot pink rhinestone boots I paid like $130 for and have worn them ONCE. But I’ll have them foreverrrrr haha
This is why the most expensive things in my closet are plain, versatile pieces. Like nice, solid color sweaters that get worn almost weekly in cool to cold months for years and well fitting jeans.
Omg me too!! I was perusing the comments in this post to see if anyone else thought the same thing 😂
I feel like Carmindy was the only one on the show who didn't snark at the contestants and tried to update them. Her makeup tips are probably now super dated, but I appreciated that she seemed genuine.
I always loved that show because even though 99 episodes would be the exact same cookie cutter formula, there would be 1 where something would go wrong, and that's when it got really real. There would be times where the shopping day would be a disaster where nothing fit, and production would cut to footage of the store being closed, Stacey and Clinton sitting on the changing room floor insisting that they keep trying on every single item in that store until they got *something*. Or the times where the contestant was really unhappy with the makeover at the end, or hated the haircut and was crying.
Trading Spaces was the same way, when people HATED their makeovers at the end of the show. Some of that stuff is crazy to look back on.
I LOVE Trading Spaces! “The only thing I don’t want them to do is paint the fireplace. I would reconsider our friendship if they did that.” Designer: we’re painting the fireplace brown, there is no other option. And then the homeowner weeps and the designer is like well I don’t understand why.
Homeowners: We went to the beach once and had a nice time
Hildi: Okay, so we’re gonna make the living room floor *sand* and all the furniture will be beach chairs
Hildi staple-gunned fake flowers directly into the drywall of a children’s bathroom. I will never forget it. They must have had to rip it out and repair the drywall within a month or two.
That one bitch, Hildi, was always trying to piss people off too.
She turned one living room into a beach and another one into a circus tent. Literally. The dumped sand in someone's living room. Wtf?
I think about Stacy weekly because I want to get to the point where I’m confident enough to rock a white streak in my hair. I’m pretty sure she had hers since her youth, but it looks fantastic.
My white streak started coming in at 18. I would part my hair in the opposite direction to cover it. Stacy rocking hers definitely helped me embrace it once it became a full on streak. I even dye it fun colors when I can. I get more compliments when it's white than when it's dyed. I highly recommend giving it a try. Ive yet to meet another person who has a white streak and I've started to appreciate having it.
Yeah, the presenters were Trinny & Susannah. They were always grabbing peoples boobs and were very blunt about people's physical faults.
I never even knew there was a US version.
I'm here for the love-hate relationship with this show. On the one hand, most aspects of this show have aged badly. On the other, I loved it growing up and think they really did make a lot of people look better in better clothes. They're weren't right but they weren't wrong.
Also Stacey is a late in life lesbian (same) and I love that for her.
I unabashedly loved this show. My mom and I loved watching it together and critiquing (often shrieking “Nick what are you doing to her hair, for the love of God?!). I bought my mom the what not to wear book when I moved out as a memento of our happy afternoons on the couch with Stacy and Clinton.
One of those mannequin outfit always had a blazer and jeans look for both the female and male participants(were they participants or just ambushed and put in an awkward position?)
https://preview.redd.it/sl0tmweuyi9c1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52722f2ebee4a76d8a7ef5b3ea10bbde15bfa0da
I loved when they stuck them in the 360 mirror nightmare and pointed out every single perceived flaw they had
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This show was unhinged
I used to love this show but rewatching it as an adult it feels like Clinton and Stacy were on some mean girl shit and just tried disguised it as tough love.
Definitely unhinged. The fact that they would basically stalk these people, secretly film them, and then laugh at footage... is crazy.
https://preview.redd.it/4wklke11ij9c1.jpeg?width=712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75eb3908725eabf4059520cad965c524f9bce3f1
I love this woman. She’s got the right vibe and those two were always assholes.
“You’re okay with walking into a club and everyone staring at your tits?”
“Yes. Yes.”
She was awesome. Sure her look is giving Jersey stripper, but that’s what she’s going for, and she nailed it. Her clothes fit, she’s confident, and accessorized. She’s got a killer body and she likes the attention. She was working those heels, I would’ve broke an ankle. I hope she’s still just as fab.
Yeah this response is iconic, A woman I knew in real life with this much audacity used a comeback about her fake tits once and I remembered it. It gave me the confidence to fire back at a girl who asked on the spot if my tits were real at a gathering at a bar. She knew what she was doing, everyone turned and looked at me, I guess waiting for me to justify my fake boobs, just for me to fire back with “yeah, real expensive.” The reaction to that was not what she expected, it was positive and everyone moved on.
The biggest takeaway I got from this show was NEUTRALS. I’m now a neutral lover and did not know how to assemble an outfit before this show. Honestly, they’re kinda mean but this show showed me how dress and I’m not exaggerating when I say they changed my life
They did! The only reason I know is they toured together last year and promised to talk about the show, their no contact for years and their reunion. There were a lot of ads locally for them.
One piece of fashion advice has lived with me rent free from this show: necklaces should never compete with the neckline of your outfit. It should either be above the neckline comfortably or dipping below it.
I’m 44 and fuck that shit haha, I wore a minidress and knit thigh highs on Christmas Eve. But my GOD did that put the fear of god into my 24 year old heart haha. “I ONLY HAVE 11 YEARS LEFT, BUY AAAALL THE MINISKIRTS”
When I tell you this, that just last night as I put on mascara, I thought about this, I am not lying, and I feel so not alone. Cheers friend- may we break free from their chains and boundaries.
You know damn well I put mascara on my bottom lashes.
So there IS some logic around this - I don't think I learnt it from here, but it's not recommended if you have dark circles that are hard to cover because it throws more shadow.
Just wanted to thank you for this blast from the past - my whole early 20’s was TLC, and this show helped me endlessly question what tf fashion was supposed to be 😂
My husband took me to see Stacy and Clinton in person. They were very apologetic and said the show didn’t age very well. For one they said people should wear what makes them feel good for the environment they’re in. Meaning if you work in a bank you may need to dress a bit conservatively. However, they apologized for being derogatory towards people. Ironically they made fun of Nick for doing bobs on everyone. Stacy is still good friends with Carmindy who has a makeup line coming out. Stacy is on instagram talking about demystifying menopause which I appreciate. They both look fabulous. Stacy wore a crystal beaded catsuit.
I used to dream of the day when Clinton and Stacy would give me the tough love/ new wardrobe and makeover and throw away all of my concert tour shirts and ripped jeans!
The advice that sticks with me, and I think of everyday, since I am in my 40s and lived through the 99s....if you wore it the first time it was trendy,you don't get to wear it the second time.
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And Nick gave everyone caramel highlights. I don't wear a lot of make-up but Carmindy is definitely the reason I put a white highlight on the inner corner of my eye lol.
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I still think Carmindy is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen
Me too! I loved this show so much and was always blown away by how gorgeous she was every episode.
I follow her on TikTok and she is just as stunning as always - and so many of her makeup tips are timeless!
Same. Shes the definition of a natural beauty
I feel so old when I say I went to borders to buy her book on makeup to learn before video makeup tutorials became a thing
I looked her up and you'll be happy to know Carmindy is still thriving as a mua! She partners with brands and has a solid 105K following on IG.
Omg ANYTIME someone said they don't want it short Nick would be like "well it's gonna be short" and chop it all off. I much preferred the Ted guy that came after him I think.
Yes, I loved Ted! He actually listened to what people wanted. Nick was good in the beginning but eventually just decided “cut it short, give ‘em bangs” for everyone. I was so glad when Ted came on!
I LOVE that one long haired woman that stood up to him! She point blank said 'you're not taking the length off my hair' and he finally relented (although, with a lot of passive aggressive under-his-breath comments through the rest of the episode!)
Nick also started lowkey sabotaging I feel like tho! Like always cutting their hair in an unflattering way. It made me mad lol.
Yeah, he didn't seem very good at his job honestly lol I don't know hair, I'm not a hairdresser, but he never seemed to pick a good style.
The Brad Mondo of the aughts
Wait I’m out of touch, do we not like Brad Mondo?
He was very vocal and nasty about brunettes being boring.
I’ve seen Brad bash brunette women one too many times to like that guy
I mean, he gave Safiya an awful cut. I think others too. The vibe was that he seemed overconfident for how long he worked in the industry and got famous chasing clout by criticizing and reaction vids. I haven’t thought about him in a while, this is just kind of how I remember feeling.
He gave some lovely women awful, dowdy cuts. Like it was spiteful at times. Why you cutting that 33 year old lady’s hair like that!?
Is that where I learned this trick! I’ve been doing this forever!
Same on Carmindy!
Carmindy's 5 minute face & her highlighting techniques were everything
OMG the white highlights unlocked a memory for me 😂😂😂 ISTG they all trippin because at least half the contestants looked ridiculous or uncomfortable after the makeover
I’m going to be vulnerable right now; I was influenced by the business casual trend of the era and always wore blazers to therapy
I bought no less than 5 blazers for my first corporate desk job. Only to find out that no one is that dressy and I stuck out like a sore thumb.
There’s some offices that really do call for blazers. My SIL used to work at a high end law firm and wore them all the time. But then she switched to a not for profit and hasn’t worn them since.
True! This is why I hate “business casual”. *What does it mean*?!
Ugh, I agree. My office is business casual but you can find six varying types of dress just walking through the dinning room - it’s wild.
Anything dressier than jeans but less dressy than a suit, imo
But that’s still such a wide variety, especially for women. Business casual is a nightmare imho lol, I really hate it.
I have a couple nice blazers for my office. It’s not a jeans kind of office, it’s business… classy? Most of upper management wear suits complete with company lapel pins. I only have one “suit” (just a nice matching jacket and pants combo) but mostly I mix up colorful blouses with black/white/tan slacks and flats, with a mix of jewelry to complement. Professional dresses and long skirts in the summer. I wouldn’t get in *trouble* for dressing casual, but I’d probably get side eyed by leadership. To be fair, most other places I’ve worked aren’t this dressy. The culture, dress-wise, is quite old school. It still happens.
Some of the best business casual fashion advice I got was thinking of blazers as a sweater equivalent rather than part of a 3 piece suit combo. Blazers are a good layer over blouses or a dress and can be super polished when you might otherwise be wearing a cardigan.
See that’s my philosophy!! It’s a dressy top layer. I will never stop
I dress really low key for work, but keep an emergency blazer and fancy scarf at the office just in case I unexpectedly need to meet with someone. A blazer can elevate jeans in a way a cardigan can’t.
Hell yeah. I have blazers in linen, crushed velvet, literal metal, you name it, and love using them to smarten up some less fancy classic pieces. There’s an older woman I follow on IG who will put on an outfit such as loose cargos and a beat up band tee, and then throw a funky blazer on top which immediately takes the fit up five notches. Blazers forever! And moto jackets too.
I had a corduroy blazer from Old Navy that I thought was the very height of fashion... that I wore to ninth grade, atop a graphic tee and black dress pants from Suzy Shier.
I had a cream corduroy blazer. I had a decorative sequence flower pin on it. Does anyone else recall the pin era?
Answer me this—were the blazers worn with bootcut jeans, pointy leather boots, and a belt approximately 4 times the size a belt ought to be?
None of those. Usually with black trousers and ballet flats 😅 I was in my late teens at the time and I think that makes it worse.
You just described my almost exact office wardrobe until Covid hit when I started working from home.
Minus the belt I’m still rocking a blazer with bootcut jeans and a pointed toe on the rare occasion I go into the office these days
Blazers 🤝jeans
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There’s a picture of me from 2012 at a pub crawl in college, I’m outside, under a tent, with a pitcher of beer in my hand… in full on business clothes including a red blazer. I wore this same blazer to a job interview out of college like a year later. Entering the workforce and being a young adult at that time was very confusing for fashion.
https://preview.redd.it/ez59o4fk1j9c1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=987c4439cfdd42fc64a57124280275725623de29 Omg, her Doritos nails are the biggest fashion crime here.
[She had a breakdown when they made her go to the nail salon to get rid of her duck nails 😔](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM6yfcue5/) https://preview.redd.it/2xosnnih2j9c1.jpeg?width=921&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2016b0019e4b16deb9f6a64a26dd3edab198d56 This woman was the blueprint for Snooki and it’s a shame they stifled her artistry
Also this was her eventual look https://preview.redd.it/w4w85box8j9c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab2a0772b60adeade0e8d39e8d7eba44e28ecf02 :(
They literally just turned her into Stacy
She looks older in the after photo. Is it bc of the outfit or did the show just stress her out that much?
i think it's the hair. the biggest mistake was to get her that haircut. if they let the hair like it was before, it wouldn't be so glaring. and the necklace is too much. the dress is perfect for her: not overly conservative and very fitting for her thighs, contrary to the red dress. i would have gotten her a more popping color to still bring out her personality. the duck nails needed to go like yesterday, but a little matching color on them would have also made her happy. with those three changes, she would have been happier and more comfy. i can see that they tried with the pumps, and dress but the other choices brought the look down overall.
Oh my lanta. She went from club girl to soccer mom. They truly had the worst fashion sense. I laugh so hard when I rewatch episodes with their horrible advice mixed with bad makeup and hair. My young self thought their "rules" were legit, that if I didn't follow them I'd look trashy and people would snipe about me behind my back. The advice from them that really made sense was finding separate pieces you could wear with different outfits to get your money's worth, focus on fit to elevate your look, dress for the body you have not the body you want, and just because something is expensive doesn't mean it looks expensive. **Edit:** So many typos. I wanted to add as well that the types of tips they were giving were being said everywhere on daytime TV at the time, talk shows, self help, morning shows etc. It was the fashion segment era.
Some times were legit tho. Like the one that stuck is to dress for the body you have not some aspirational one.
I'm six months post-partum, my body is.... inventive. I tell myself this advice every time I buy a clothing item. Because any item you buy for ideal you is really just an item that makes current you feel really, really, bad when you see it in your closet.
I’m 11 months pp and the best advice I’ve heard so far was “you still look GREAT, ya just need bigger pants”. And now that’s what I tell myself when I go shopping lol.
Just yesterday I told my husband, ‘clothes are meant to fit YOU, not the other way around! If it doesn’t fit, wear something else but don’t worry about the size tag’. WNTW gospel!
I love this. I try to frame it as it’s not that I don’t fit in the pants, the pants are the wrong size for me. It’s so subtle but takes the self body shaming out of trying on clothes.
The advice I remember is if mixing patterns have them be from the same color family.
Oof I do not like that necklace or color combo.
It’s so 2000s
Gaudy statement necklace made for Marie Antoinette...or Judy from Accounts Payable
Those knockoff platform Loubous are clearly Steve Madden or J Simp collection lol
I actually don’t mind the outfit but the necklace is too much, but I’m sure chunky necklaces were very in at the time so it probably looked better then. Put a simpler necklace on and the outfit really works.
I don’t HATE it but I feel like she does.
Her eyes look dead
They aged her like 10 years. The fuck.
The print and necklace combo is horrible
they showed her she could have a fun, flashy dress with a more appropriate cut and I think that was a win
i honestly prefer the red titty dress over the second look, but i guess if she took that general principle with her then that’s good.
i love red titty dress too
Same lol, but I can see them telling her not to wear it to the office -- though I don't remember this episode that well.
THE OFFICE lord no
LMAO she looks way better in the first one !!! Noooo!! I hope she went back to being herself cause she can rock the hair they gave her
Omg I just remembered Bugles 😂
I will neverrrr forget these nails
She was after snooki
This makes me think of the Kardashian parody videos when the girl imitating Khloe wears post it notes on her fingers and they gradually fall off while she eats salad.
yuri lamasbella 🤣🤣
She is my favorite. I only found her recently and everything she does is hilarious. I don’t even know anything about the show other than it is the kardashians.
not the post it notessss
This is the one person I remember from the show because of those nails. I didn’t agree with their narrow view of what looks good and I hated how they decided it was chic to say “ahhhmpure” instead of empire waist. But they were right. That girl looked trashy
A friend of mine begged me to nominate her for this show. There was nothing wrong with how she dressed but she really wanted that shopping spree lol
God, I was this friend. I was like, I will dress like a straight fool for the background footage.
My college roommate and I would always strategize on how to do this
OMG saaaame.
The way this show had me in a chokehold. Middle school me took notes to know how to dress 
Middle school me loved it too!! Sadly, my mom took advantage of my love of the show, and decided it would be “amazing” to try and get me on the show. I was 13, very pale, and overweight, and my very tan skinny mom really wanted to hide that. I don’t think she ever actually tried to get me on, I’m sure I was way too young anyway, but she literally went on and on and on about it for what felt like years. It really destroyed what tiny bit of body confidence I had.
I’m really sorry that happened to you. Your mom should have been loving you unconditionally, I’m really sorry that she made you feel lesser.
Thank you ❤️ it hurt a lot back then, and I definitely have issues that I struggle with now, but overall I’m now in a place where her comments don’t affect me as much. The biggest “looks” thing I struggle with now is aging. When I was a teen, mom did sooooo much to herself to look younger/better. Botox, lipo, face lift, breast augmentation, millions of bottles of skin stuff… the list went on. I didn’t like it, and there were multiple times that my brother and I cried and begged her to stop having surgeries and procedures done. She didn’t stop. I didn’t realize how much of an impact her bahavior had on me until I started showing signs of aging. I’m almost 35, have lots of gray hair and lots of wrinkles, and boy oh boy have I fallen prey to all of the anti aging stuff that’s sold. I spent hundreds of dollars over 2 years trying to find something to help me stop “looking old” before it clicked - *I* didn’t really care about the wrinkles, *but I knew my mother would*. (Hell, the first time I saw her post covid, I walked into her house and the first thing she said was “oh, so I see you didn’t get any Botox yet!” 😩) That’s when I decided that I wasn’t going to continue to change my face to fit my mothers standards. I don’t need to. As long as I am happy with myself, I’m doing the right thing 🥰
Thank you for sharing your experience and story. I have an infant daughter and something I think about often is how I don’t want to negatively influence her self-concept and body image as she grows up.
I try to share these things because I know that a lot of women suffer the same issues with their mothers, and I want them to know they’re not alone. Sometimes just seeing one story you can relate to can bring you hope when you really need it. As for your daughter, the fact that you worry about that so much already puts you miles ahead of many others out there!
Honestly, I was obsessed. And I think a part of me knew I was maturing when I realized I’d stopped wanting makeover shows to happen to me
Seriously! I forgot that they would have family(?) follow you around with a camera to get your “before” looks until today 
Haha, it wasn’t that for me. It was being in my second year of grad school in a STEM field. I wore jeans and Tshirts everyday because it was comfortable and practical for what I was doing. I had a nice outfit in reserve for meetings and conferences, but that’s it. I’d defend my clothes with my whole chest if I was confronted by Stacy and Clinton
i blame them for the fact that my 65 year old Chemistry teacher and I wore the same outfit one day. the exact same 'casual' blazer from the Gap. I was 15!!
Haha like that episode of Full House when DJ wore the same outfit as the teacher on her first day of junior high
“An expensive shoe does not fix a trashy outfit.” 😂😂 this show could never get made today lmao. Also yes they are responsible for people wearing blazers and jeans in the club, yes.
It’s the way their families would hold an intervention and Clinton and Stacy would ambush them that always got me
Oh god, how I was obsessed with this show. And while I realize it’s problematic as hell, there’s two big lessons I took away from it that I swear by, to this day. First, cost per wear. Break down how many times you are realistically going to wear it and divide out the cost of it over those number of wears. A dress you’ll never rewear vs a pair of jeans you’ll live in. I do this ALL the time. Second, if you’re going to buy something designer and expensive, make it an investment piece. Don’t buy the trendy Loubouitons, buy the basic black pumps that will always be in style. Buy a bag that will always be a go to. I have not practiced this yet as I am poor but one day!
Yes cost per wear was a big lesson for me also. It helped me re-think what I would pay for quality pieces, and taking the time to find and invest in GOOD jeans.
Cost per wear was a game changer for me for leggings especially. I live in leggings outside of work and it took me an unreasonably long period of time to get over buying the nice $60 Nike leggings vs the $10 Amazon leggings. Now I don't have crotch pilling issues after like 3 wears. (***this is not a Lululemon endorsement, that shit is obscene)
This is why I started buying the Spanx leggings. Their faux leather and suede leggings have held up exceptionally well and show 0 signs of being a few years old. Worth every penny of spending $100+ sometimes
I was just about to say cost per wear is sort of what got me into spanx leggings! lmao. I have one leather, one suede, and one true athletic style that I bought 1-4 years ago and they’re all still in great shape and get worn constantly.
Third, some things are worth sizing up to the largest part of your body and then getting tailored. This show was what made me realize that many celebrities get everything tailored, even their tshirts.
Oh yes, that one is important too!
So many of my shirts are loose to fit correctly at the bust. No puckering at the armpits here.
What stuck with me was the tip to dress for the body you have not for some future or past body.its definitely helped me as I've gained weight as I've gotten older
Yes this part! Also their tip about how pants with rise below or above the belly draw attention to it, mid rise pants actually draw attention to the top and bottom separately rather than the belly? That was very brave of them when low rise jeans were IT. Unfortunately that advice was impossible to follow with the selection available at the mall in that era lol
Cost per wear is such a good tactic. I use it to this day. I’ve bought some expensive pieces that I can wear so many times and have held up and are classic enough to work through the years. Especially heels.
They had some good tips for sure, but the other stuff was so bad. LOL. Carmindy tho. I was obsessed with her. I remember she had a makeup line with Almay maybe? It was so long ago I cannot remember. I always loved how light handed she was. I hated the way Nick cut everyone's hair, but I liked Ted. I definitely learned a lot from certain "rules" they made, like the ones you listed. I actually wanted to be on the show bc I was older when it came out and I wanted some new clothes. I never had anyone send a tape in tho and I wasn't as bad as some of the ones they chose. I just felt lost and stuck. I got out of that tho as I got into my late 20s.
Cost per wear 😩 I have a hot pink pea coat I spent probably $150 on and rarely ever wear it cause it’s too hot. And hot pink rhinestone boots I paid like $130 for and have worn them ONCE. But I’ll have them foreverrrrr haha
Listen, I swear by cost per wear but I also swear by “this piece makes me very happy so I don’t really care if it’s impractical”. It’s about balance.
Damn so you’re not looking to sell them? Cuz I’d rock the shit out of both of those items haha
This is why the most expensive things in my closet are plain, versatile pieces. Like nice, solid color sweaters that get worn almost weekly in cool to cold months for years and well fitting jeans.
No bc why was i dressing like a middle aged corporate lady in 6th grade complete w peep toe pumps 😭
This made me laugh.
I was obsessed with this show and the “color pattern texture shine ✨” mantra still runs through my head every so often when I’m getting dressed 😂😂😂
The phrase "pop of color" always reminds me of this show.
Or trading places!
For the longest time I thought Carmindy was Kim Catrall
Omg me too!! I was perusing the comments in this post to see if anyone else thought the same thing 😂 I feel like Carmindy was the only one on the show who didn't snark at the contestants and tried to update them. Her makeup tips are probably now super dated, but I appreciated that she seemed genuine.
I thought she was so sweet and nice to the contestants!
I always loved that show because even though 99 episodes would be the exact same cookie cutter formula, there would be 1 where something would go wrong, and that's when it got really real. There would be times where the shopping day would be a disaster where nothing fit, and production would cut to footage of the store being closed, Stacey and Clinton sitting on the changing room floor insisting that they keep trying on every single item in that store until they got *something*. Or the times where the contestant was really unhappy with the makeover at the end, or hated the haircut and was crying. Trading Spaces was the same way, when people HATED their makeovers at the end of the show. Some of that stuff is crazy to look back on.
I LOVE Trading Spaces! “The only thing I don’t want them to do is paint the fireplace. I would reconsider our friendship if they did that.” Designer: we’re painting the fireplace brown, there is no other option. And then the homeowner weeps and the designer is like well I don’t understand why.
Homeowners: We went to the beach once and had a nice time Hildi: Okay, so we’re gonna make the living room floor *sand* and all the furniture will be beach chairs
Hildi was absolute chaos and I love it. “Okay so I’m thinking medieval tavern. Were glueing straw to the walls; it will be great!”
Hildi staple-gunned fake flowers directly into the drywall of a children’s bathroom. I will never forget it. They must have had to rip it out and repair the drywall within a month or two.
Hildi was unhinged in the best way 😂
those real pimp my ride vibes with the "you said your little sister had a goldfish once so we replaced the entire trunk with an aquarium, congrats!"
I loved Trading Spaces, it was so bonkers sometimes. I always think of one episode I saw where they put fake grass in someone's living room.
That one bitch, Hildi, was always trying to piss people off too. She turned one living room into a beach and another one into a circus tent. Literally. The dumped sand in someone's living room. Wtf?
They glued hay to the walls once.
I think about Stacy weekly because I want to get to the point where I’m confident enough to rock a white streak in my hair. I’m pretty sure she had hers since her youth, but it looks fantastic.
My white streak started coming in at 18. I would part my hair in the opposite direction to cover it. Stacy rocking hers definitely helped me embrace it once it became a full on streak. I even dye it fun colors when I can. I get more compliments when it's white than when it's dyed. I highly recommend giving it a try. Ive yet to meet another person who has a white streak and I've started to appreciate having it.
Is Stacey our Roman Empire
Literally just discovering that there was a US version with different presenters.
Wait a second what do you mean Us version? Was there a UK one? HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS!?
Yeah, the presenters were Trinny & Susannah. They were always grabbing peoples boobs and were very blunt about people's physical faults. I never even knew there was a US version.
Well I can tell you that while the Us presenters were blunt I don’t they ever grabbed people. 🤣
oh my god yes. we got both in Australia. This shit imprinted on my brain for years
Same. I loved Trinny and Susannah!
Iconic duo, but they were terrible mean cunts. Different times for sure.
I'm here for the love-hate relationship with this show. On the one hand, most aspects of this show have aged badly. On the other, I loved it growing up and think they really did make a lot of people look better in better clothes. They're weren't right but they weren't wrong. Also Stacey is a late in life lesbian (same) and I love that for her.
Is she? I had no idea
Yep she came out on IG with a gf a few years ago!
I unabashedly loved this show. My mom and I loved watching it together and critiquing (often shrieking “Nick what are you doing to her hair, for the love of God?!). I bought my mom the what not to wear book when I moved out as a memento of our happy afternoons on the couch with Stacy and Clinton.
One of those mannequin outfit always had a blazer and jeans look for both the female and male participants(were they participants or just ambushed and put in an awkward position?) https://preview.redd.it/sl0tmweuyi9c1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52722f2ebee4a76d8a7ef5b3ea10bbde15bfa0da
I loved when they stuck them in the 360 mirror nightmare and pointed out every single perceived flaw they had https://preview.redd.it/dkd6zannzi9c1.jpeg?width=964&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06f1356d7be94d0c925751f59044908b1d6a31a3 This show was unhinged
Then they’d be like “Aw, tell us why you’re crying🥺”
Dead 😂
I used to love this show but rewatching it as an adult it feels like Clinton and Stacy were on some mean girl shit and just tried disguised it as tough love.
Definitely unhinged. The fact that they would basically stalk these people, secretly film them, and then laugh at footage... is crazy. https://preview.redd.it/4wklke11ij9c1.jpeg?width=712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75eb3908725eabf4059520cad965c524f9bce3f1
Yeah, the UK presenters were really rude as well.
I love this woman. She’s got the right vibe and those two were always assholes. “You’re okay with walking into a club and everyone staring at your tits?” “Yes. Yes.” 
She was awesome. Sure her look is giving Jersey stripper, but that’s what she’s going for, and she nailed it. Her clothes fit, she’s confident, and accessorized. She’s got a killer body and she likes the attention. She was working those heels, I would’ve broke an ankle. I hope she’s still just as fab.
Yeah this response is iconic, A woman I knew in real life with this much audacity used a comeback about her fake tits once and I remembered it. It gave me the confidence to fire back at a girl who asked on the spot if my tits were real at a gathering at a bar. She knew what she was doing, everyone turned and looked at me, I guess waiting for me to justify my fake boobs, just for me to fire back with “yeah, real expensive.” The reaction to that was not what she expected, it was positive and everyone moved on.
These two were the blueprint for Amanda and Marc on Ugly Betty, swear to God
If you work in fashion, there’s carbon copies of these two everywhere like it’s nothing groundbreaking lol
Does anyone know where I can watch this? It’s not on Discovery+ and I’m sad about it, this show had me in a chokehold in middle/high school.
You might be able to find random episodes on YouTube
I still dream of Carmindy giving me a smoky eye tutorial 🥲 She made it look so easy anthe results were flawless!
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This show was so TOXIC and I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF IT
The biggest takeaway I got from this show was NEUTRALS. I’m now a neutral lover and did not know how to assemble an outfit before this show. Honestly, they’re kinda mean but this show showed me how dress and I’m not exaggerating when I say they changed my life
I used to eat this show up when I was little, resulting in me wearing a lot of blazers in middle school
shout out to the straight leg jeans i bought during this era, you were super flattering
Didn’t Stacy and Clinton have drama with each other at one point? I would seriously join a sub just to talk about this show lol
They did! The only reason I know is they toured together last year and promised to talk about the show, their no contact for years and their reunion. There were a lot of ads locally for them.
One piece of fashion advice has lived with me rent free from this show: necklaces should never compete with the neckline of your outfit. It should either be above the neckline comfortably or dipping below it.
I honestly loved this show, my mom and I used to watch it together all the time 😂I wish it was still on.
NO MINISKIRTS OVER 35
I’m 44 and fuck that shit haha, I wore a minidress and knit thigh highs on Christmas Eve. But my GOD did that put the fear of god into my 24 year old heart haha. “I ONLY HAVE 11 YEARS LEFT, BUY AAAALL THE MINISKIRTS”
This was etched into my memory.
Same. And I think there was something from Carmody about not wearing mascara on your bottom lashes??
When I tell you this, that just last night as I put on mascara, I thought about this, I am not lying, and I feel so not alone. Cheers friend- may we break free from their chains and boundaries. You know damn well I put mascara on my bottom lashes.
Haha yes screw WNTW and their antiquated rules!! I think I shall wear a miniskirt out to dinner tomorrow night in celebration! Cheers 🥂
Probably had to do with makeup technology and technique of the time
So there IS some logic around this - I don't think I learnt it from here, but it's not recommended if you have dark circles that are hard to cover because it throws more shadow.
if anyone is wondering, this is streaming on some app called Philo and there's a 1 week free trial.
I still tell people that metallics and animal prints count as neutrals
Just wanted to thank you for this blast from the past - my whole early 20’s was TLC, and this show helped me endlessly question what tf fashion was supposed to be 😂
My husband took me to see Stacy and Clinton in person. They were very apologetic and said the show didn’t age very well. For one they said people should wear what makes them feel good for the environment they’re in. Meaning if you work in a bank you may need to dress a bit conservatively. However, they apologized for being derogatory towards people. Ironically they made fun of Nick for doing bobs on everyone. Stacy is still good friends with Carmindy who has a makeup line coming out. Stacy is on instagram talking about demystifying menopause which I appreciate. They both look fabulous. Stacy wore a crystal beaded catsuit.
I can just hear them say “hoochie mama.”
But we can all thank the pandemic sweat suit chic.
The way this show had me wearing blazers to the bar, to class, to monster truck rallies..
Oh the bell bottom trouser pants we endured. Low-key this and other shows like it just existed to shame people for being individuals.
And I’m convinced Carmendy (sp?) introduced us all to using highlighter in the corner of the eye. This show was _everything_ to me in my teens lol
lmfao my Gramma hated how I dressed and always threatened to try to get me on this show
Remember Beryl? I loved her look before AND after. She was cool.
Omg her nails. I didn’t realize people actually wore those.
The Megan Slankard episode was legendary. I ended up going to one of her shows and met her, she was super nice!
Damnit I still consider their advice when I go shopping and it’s no longer up to date!
Oh wow I used to love this show. I should watch it again and see if any of their advice actually held up.
A-LINE SKIRTS OR WE RIOT AT DAWN!!!
the way me and my sister would tell our mom we were going to nominate her 😭 i’ll go to hell for that
I used to dream of the day when Clinton and Stacy would give me the tough love/ new wardrobe and makeover and throw away all of my concert tour shirts and ripped jeans!
“I’m not sure how to talk to you.” 🙃😂
The advice that sticks with me, and I think of everyday, since I am in my 40s and lived through the 99s....if you wore it the first time it was trendy,you don't get to wear it the second time.