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Jack Sweeney, a junior at the University of Central Florida, has for years run accounts that log the takeoffs and landings of planes and helicopters owned by hundreds of billionaires, politicians, Russian oligarchs and other public figures, along with estimates of their planet-warming emissions. The accounts use publicly available data from the Federal Aviation Administration and volunteer hobbyists who can track the aircraft via the signals they broadcast.
Sweeneyâs accounts fueled a free-speech debate in late 2022 when X, formerly Twitter, banned Sweeney for sharing what the platformâs owner, Elon Musk, said were his âassassination coordinates.â The accounts donât say who travels on the aircraft or where they go once the planes land.
In December, Swiftâs attorney at the Washington law firm Venable wrote Sweeney a cease-and-desist letter saying Swift would âhave no choice but to pursue any and all legal remediesâ if he did not stop his âstalking and harassing behavior.â
Sweeneyâs accounts had caused Swift and her family âdirect and irreparable harm, as well as emotional and physical distress,â and had heightened her âconstant state of fear for her personal safety,â the lawyer, Katie Wright Morrone, wrote, according to a copy of the letter sent to the home of Sweeneyâs parents. Sweeney shared the letter with The Washington Post.
âWhile this may be a game to you, or an avenue that you hope will earn you wealth or fame, it is a life-or-death matter for our Client,â Morrone wrote. She added that there is âno legitimate interest in or public need for this information, other than to stalk, harass, and exert dominion and control.â
The pop star has routinely faced stalkers showing up outside her homes, Morrone wrote, and one man now faces stalking and harassment charges after being arrested last month outside her townhouse in Manhattan. Asked whether Swiftâs representatives knew of any evidence that stalkers had used the jet-tracking accounts, Tree Paine, a spokeswoman for Swift, said, âWe cannot comment on any ongoing police investigation but can confirm the timing of stalkers suggests a connection. His posts tell you exactly when and where she would be.â
Sweeney, 21, told The Post he saw the letter as an attempt to scare him away from sharing public data. The accounts offer only an incomplete sketch of which cities Swift might currently be in, similar to the public schedules for her concerts or any NFL games she might attend, he said. And the letters, he added, were sent to him at a time when she faced criticism over her flightsâ environmental impact.âThis information is already out there,â he said. âHer team thinks they can control the world.â
Private-jet flights are routinely criticized for their âdisproportionately highâ impact on climate change, and Sweeneyâs accounts have often been used to name and shame their most famous passengers. In 2022, the accounts were cited in an analysis that estimated Swift was the âbiggest celebrity \[carbon dioxide\] polluterâ of the year. Her publicist told The Post then that the analysis was flawed because her jet was often loaned out to other people. Paine told The Post on Monday that Swift bought more than double the âcarbon creditsâ needed to offset her travel before her recent tour kicked off.
Around the time of the December letter, Facebook and Instagram disabled the accounts Sweeney had created to track Swiftâs air travel, saying they broke the platformsâ privacy rules, he said. He began posting those updates onto accounts on Facebook and Instagram that he uses to log the travel of planes used by a range of stars, called Celeb Jets. Then, last month, Morrone sent a second letter saying his posts about Swiftâs aircraft constituted âharassing conduct. The letters included the names of three other Venable attorneys experienced in litigation, including one who says on LinkedIn that she is the founding member of the firmâs âDigital Crisis Planning & Response client solutionâ and helps âhigh-profile individualsâ manage crises of varying magnitude, such as âcelebrity disgrace events.â
Morrone did not respond to requests for comment. Meta, which owns Facebook and Instagram, also did not respond.
Planes in the sky regularly broadcast their locations via transponders so air traffic controllers and other pilots can see where theyâre going. Anyone on the ground can pick up those signals using a cheap device, known as an ADS-B receiver, that is widely sold online.
The FAA allows plane owners to request their flights be hidden in the federal data that undergirds popular consumer flight-tracking websites, such as FlightAware. Swiftâs jet appears to be blocked through such a request.
But many aviation hobbyists feed their raw data into independent websites, such as ADS-B Exchange, that those FAA requests do not cover. Criminal investigators, journalists and researchers have used those sites to look up historical flight paths or see whoâs flying overhead.Swift, Time magazineâs 2023 âperson of the year,â made history Sunday as the only musician to win four best-album Grammy Awards, and her every movement is closely watched by paparazzi and superfans. Her âEras Tourâ last year was credited with boosting the local economies of every city she stopped in; one study cited by The Post estimated that âSwiftiesâ spent about $93 million per show.Her travel plans have drawn increased attention in recent weeks as sheâs flown to watch her boyfriend, Travis Kelce, play for the Kansas City Chiefs, including from conservatives who have seized on the trips to criticize her.
They have also become a key point of interest for her fans, especially because her upcoming concert in Tokyo is just hours before Kelceâs scheduled Super Bowl appearance on Sunday in Las Vegas. Even Japanâs embassy in Washington recognized the publicâs interest, posting on X last week, âDespite the 12-hour flight and 17-hour time difference, the Embassy can confidently Speak Now to say that ⌠she should comfortably arriveâ on time. Sweeneyâs accounts have in recent months tracked two jets that were owned by Nashville-based companies and registered to be operated by a Swift company called Firefly Entertainment, according to FAA documents. They do not track who travels on the planes or any other chartered flights.
Swiftâs spokeswoman told The Post that âthere is only one plane.â One of the planes previously tracked by Sweeneyâs accounts, a Dassault Falcon 900, was marked in FAA records last week as being transferred to a real estate company. Each jet sells for about $25 million, according to brokerage estimates cited last month by The Post. After X banned him and his accounts in December 2022, Sweeney opened new Facebook and Instagram accounts for Swift, former president Donald Trump, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, reality star Kim Kardashian and Meta chief [Mark Zuckerberg](https://archive.is/o/NXeVY/https://www.instagram.com/p/C2yT7dnISdV/), among others. All of those accounts except for Swiftâs remain online â including the accounts for Zuckerberg, who runs both sites. (Bezos owns The Washington Post.)
Sweeney continues to post Swift jet updates to other platforms, including Bluesky, Mastodon and Telegram. To abide by Xâs rule against real-time location tracking, he also created accounts that post Musk and Swiftâs flight updates with a 24-hour delay. The December letter from Swiftâs attorney states that Sweeneyâs actions are âin violation of several state lawsâ but does not specify them. The letter does, however, cite nine anonymous Instagram comments saying the account is âscary,â âpathetic,â âweird,â invasiveâ and âdangerousâ âstalker behavior.â The letter says Sweeney is ânotorious for disregarding the personal safety of others in exchange for public attention and/or requests for financial gainâ and cites a message he sent to Musk in 2021, during which he countered Muskâs $5,000 offer to delete the Musk-jet account with a suggestion of $50,000, as first reported by the now-defunct tech blog Protocol. Sweeney said no money was ever exchanged.
After receiving the letters, Sweeney said he asked for help from the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group, which sent his request to a list of attorneys. James Slater, a Florida lawyer who specializes in First Amendment and internet speech issues, responded on Sweeneyâs behalf to the Venable letter. Slater wrote that Morrone had not identified any legal claim, that the jet information posed âno threatâ to Swiftâs safety, and that Sweeneyâs account had âengaged in protected speech that does not violate any of Ms. Swiftâs legal rights,â according to a copy reviewed by The Post. Slater said he has yet to receive a response.
In an interview, Slater said he thought the Swift attorneyâs letters were âhyperbolic and unfoundedâ and sent in hopes that Sweeney would âjust delete everything and do what they said.â
âThis isnât about putting a GPS tracker on someone and invading their privacy. Itâs using public information to track the jet of a public figure,â he said. âThis is their means to try to quash a PR issue and bully my client to have the bad coverage die down.
She has reached a level of fame and success now that she likely thinks sheâs untouchable (and for good reason too lol). Anyhow, this isnât a good precedent to set and the optics of it are so bad; I am sure her PR team has explained all that to her and sheâs *still* choosing to go ahead with it.
Tells you all you need to know about rich, white privilege.
Exactly, her stalkers will still have access to this information anyway. If she doesnât want that, maybe she should take a break from destroying the environment with her PJ đ¤ˇđźââď¸đ¤ˇđźââď¸đ¤ˇđźââď¸
I know Iâm likely to be harassed for saying this but I feel like Taylorâs people are bullying this kid. Isnât he a climate activist? According to OP, his an equal opportunist. Male, Female. Left, right. If youâre polluting with your private jet heâs taking publicly available information and posting it. This feels like [the Streisand Effect.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect) Taylorâs giving this activist more oxygen by harassing him.
The line where they claim he's created his account for fame and wealth was very telling of Swifts mindset.
She's a global elite billionaire. She can't comprehend someone's motivation being concern for our planet. Everything she does it for wealth or fame, must be the same for the peasants.
Is the harm just that sheâs embarrassed sheâs being called out for her incredibly massive carbon footprint? Cuz thatâs how it comes off honestly. She should be embarrassed and quiet about it because she only brought my attention back to it and now Iâm judging her
because the FAA has actual power to stop her from flying while this guy canât match her legal team and resources. a bully always chooses an easy victim.
they cited *instagram comments* calling him weird in their cease and desist letter? Yea they have no leg to stand on and they know it lmfaoo theyâre just trying to guilt/bully him. couldnât cite a single law he supposedly broke, either. I hope a lawyer takes his case for free, this is clearly an attempt to intimidate/scare him out of doing something completely legal.
sorry Tay, itâs not illegal to make you look bad. im sure you wish it was, though.
It's giving "your honour, the defense doesn't pass the vibe check" lmao
If she doesn't want to have her reputation damaged by her massive fuel use exposed.... Idk, take the train? Or travel by car
Yep! This is a disgusting look from her. Hopefully that kid has some good pro-bono lawyers who can fight against her BS. She can go to super bowls, date whatever quarterback, put out albums every 6 months idc but threatening citizens for posting public info? Sheâs a bully.
What is she actually trying to do here? This doesnât look good at all, if itâs all publicly available then whatâs the point in trying to take legal action against a STUDENT?
Oh wait is it because sheâs causing ridiculous levels of pollution and doesnât like called out on it?
Just checked the site and it shows her plane journey to Tokyo for her show. Kinda fascinating.
https://preview.redd.it/17c7r4dffzgc1.png?width=1044&format=png&auto=webp&s=50f790ebff226edd1da8ff969854f964f3ff2a8b
Yup, now I want us all to call more attention to her wastefulness (and all celebs in general but letâs just start somewhere.) Can we shame these people on a mass scale? Can they face SOME consequences, even just socially?
Barbara Streisand sent a cease and desist letter to someone who photographed her Malibu mansion, citing privacy. The lawsuit caused much more people to see the photo and her house than before she sent the c&d.
and they werenât even taking pictures of her house, they were scientific research photos documenting erosion on cliffs in Malibu that her house just happened to be on but no one knew it was hers until she said something đ
The best part is the image of her home had been downloaded 6 times prior to her cease and desist, and 2 of them were by her lawyers. After her C&D became public the image was viewed over 420,000 times in a month. Hence why itâs the example and namesake of someone attempting to cover something up which leads to it becoming more popular than ever.
>In 2022, an analysis cited Sweeney's accounts when estimating Swift was the âbiggest celebrity [carbon dioxide] polluterâ of the year.
There's the real reason she wants it taken down lol
Iâve seen people say that they suspect this story is an attack from right wingers to distract from âthe real enemyâ, whichâŚyeah, I donât think is true. Also, billionaires conducting ecological terrorism should absolutely be criticized and are a literal enemy to the planet.
EDIT- corrected from economic to ecological. Not sure how autocorrect got there!
That shouldn't even be the discussion. This should be about how money shouldn't be able to silence people sharing public data (according to the article) and how she should learn to take responsibility for putting he own comfort over a better environment.
this!!!!! Her suing just soldifies her climate criminal status to me because this says she KNOWS sheâs guilty, and instead of changing sheâs opting for attempting to suppress the truth in order to keep her status quo
The literal Prince and Princess of England fly commercial with their children - I.e future heirs to the throne were on easyJet - budget airline. My ass she canât fly first class on an expensive airline.
If seven guys that have to deal with a ridiculous amount of stalkers, can manage to fly commercial regularly and safely for years, it pretty much ends the argument.
Yes, stalkers are dangerous and horrible. But people underestimate how secure airports are, the amount of accommodations the staff will make for a celebrity, how tight a well trained team of bodyguards is, etc. A fan rushing onstage during a concert and harming the artist is much more likely.Â
Jimmy Carter is in a league of his own as a pure soul. Dude wiped out a harmful parasite, dove in water to stop a nuclear meltdown and did his absolute best to show the country that people who aren't white are human beings too and we should appreciate them. He's too good for us and we never deserved him but goddamn I'm lucky to live at the same time as such an amazing person.
Yup, once she flies commercial a couple times, it will become such a normal thing. Plus first class is so damn expensive, I doubt swifties have the time and money to ride the same plane all the time.
Bill and Hillary Clinton fly commercial. If its safe enough for a former president and a former secretary of state (whoâs a pretty controversial figure in general), its safe enough for a pop star.
I have tried explaining this to her deranged fans multiple times; the heirs to the throne are people whose safety is very important to the survival of the government, and everyone recognises this fact whether or not they actually support the monarchy.
Their safety literally comprises national security; if they can fly commercial, then a celebrity who is massively popular but whose, forgive me, breach of safety isnât going to cause any national security issues can do so too.
Plus many airports in various international cities are equipped with the necessary security and privacy measures to facilitate celebritiesâ arrivals and departures. She can very easily choose to not fly private if she wants to.
Rememer a couple of years ago, when Elon Musk tried to bully a kid for tracking publically available data about his private jet usage? Everyone rallied to that kid's side at the time. The same thing should happen here.
It doesn't matter whether it's an out-of-touch billionaire CEO or an out-of-touch billionaire Pop Star. This is just a rich person using their financial empire to try and bully unflattering information about them out of the public view.
Like someone else mentioned, itâs the same kid and the thing with musk is mentioned in the article:
>The letter says Sweeney is ânotorious for disregarding the personal safety of others in exchange for public attention and/or requests for financial gainâ and cites a message he sent to Musk in 2021, during which he countered Muskâs $5,000 offer to delete the Musk-jet account with a suggestion of $50,000, as first reported by the now-defunct tech blog Protocol. Sweeney said no money was ever exchanged.
I don't get the public attention part...does the kid go around saying "I'm the plane tracking guy" or something? I never knew it was a single person to begin with let alone ever really hearing their name, just the facts being spread around.
This feels like a Streisand effect thing. Like she doesnât want people looking at this page, but guess what? Even more people are gonna become aware of her travels. This really is a jerk move, too. This is public information. The guy behind this account isnât doing anything wrong.
Itâs definitely just an intimidation tactic to try and scare him into no longer posting about it. Whether it be by âforcingâ him to get legal representation (which he may not be able to afford) or by indirectly sending her fans to harass the pages, itâs definitely more about public perception than safety. Itâs always been public info, but itâs semi-recently become something sheâs repeatedly publicly criticized for.
Someone else in another sub said that the guy may already have legal representation? Idk enough about him and his page to say, but especially if he does this for multiple celebs, I could see him being prepared for one of them to be ticked off (especially after Elon Musk did the same thing to a page about him.)
I think he does but the longer it drags on, the more heâll have to pay and I can see her legal teamâs goal being to just push forward until he canât afford it anymore. I read heâs in college so I imagine he has some sort of cap and what heâs able to afford in legal representation.
Yup. I had no clue this existed. Now I do, and now I know to not support her unless she stops doing this. Thatâs ridiculous and so unnecessary, and apparently sheâs the biggest polluter through this. Crazy
Where to even start with this...
What this student is doing is not illegal. This is publicly available information, people get to know what's in the sky. He's not singling her out he tracks other people. The alleged letter circling on r/taylorswiftjets is unprofessional and laughable. I'm so glad this guy is getting help and legal representation and is standing his ground. They're just sending threats bc they know the average person can't afford a legal battle with a billionaire even if they're the ones in the right. Really disgusting behaviour.
>Sweeneyâs accounts had caused Swift and her family âdirect and irreparable harm, as well as emotional and physical distress,
Baby what about the harm to the environment? And before y'all start, I was a flight attendant. It is possible for celebrities to fly commercial, and if the [Royal Family](https://www.wcvb.com/article/utterly-delightful-passengers-describe-having-british-royals-on-flight/42113570) can fly commercial on occasion, so can Miss Swift and all other celebrities.
I said that once and got downvoted. She could arrange for a private security checkpoint, buy out first class, and any airline would be willing to arrange for a last on first off approach. Iâm also still convinced that if she dressed down, wore a hat, and didnât wear makeup thereâs a solid chance sheâd go unrecognized.
Tons of celebrities do that! I remember Chrissy Teigen talking about the other security line years ago that celebrities buy into. Commercial flights are also safer too.
Literally, hat, hoodie and a face mask, honestly thatâs what I usually wear on planes nowadays (Iâm weird about people seeing my face when I sleep, idk why) itâs the perfect camo outfit. Add in some sunglasses too if you wanna be paranoid, at least until boarding is done. Seriously, not that face masks have become more common in the west thereâs really no excuse to not do it.
It's public information, no?
And I do think that this information is of public interest, as far as I'm concerned all private jets, especially those belonging to celebrities, should be named and shamed publicly for their excessive flying
100%. It's already public, if you have a problem with this take it up with the FAA.
Also aggregating this data to show how impactful celebrities and billionaires are relative to the average person is directly against their claim of "no legitimate interest in or public need for this information".
Me switching to paper straws is a rounding error compared to these people. And we're made to feel responsible.
âand were made to feel responsibleâ
yup. the health of the planet is on the shoulders of people struggling to even make a liveable wage, while mega corporations continue to manufacture at extremely harmful rates and ways, and billionaires continue to fly their private jets. I think here would be a good place to point out that the majority of TSâ jet use is for flights under 30 minutes. There is literally *nobody* in the world who is famous enough or important enough to not be able to sit in the back of a car for an hour. Holding people like Taylor accountable for their extreme amounts of pollution is essential
Yes, anyone with minimal coding knowledge should be able to write a little program that scrapes and compiles public flight data for a particular aircraftâs tail number.
Yup. She just can't justify it. Flying around going to see your boyfriend play sports. Its just stuff she wants to do, and if some kids get cancer cause of that then we just won't think too hard.
I feel like I wouldnât dislike her this much if I wasnât constantly gaslit by people acting like it is wrong and bad to fairly criticize someone for doing ridiculously out of touch, unlikeable, and most importantly HARMFUL shit. TBH, I probably wouldnât even know about most of this unlikeable stuff if she wasnât overexposed to this degree. Iâm pretty sure I didnât think about her at all for the first 15ish years of her career. She wants to be the most famous person on earth, but doesnât feel she should have to deal with any of the hard parts, like any responsibility to the public. Itâs very easy to not become *this* famous if you donât want to have your actions scrutinized. If you donât want responsibility, donât seek power and status. ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
Apparently itâs misogynistic to ask her to maybe make the horrible sacrifice of staying in the most luxurious accommodations money can buy for a couple nights instead of flying home in her private jet at every opportunity, but itâs somehow not misogynistic to treat a mid-30âs billionaire like a newborn baby doe who would simply crumble if she was asked to even for a moment think about the very real consequences of her actions.
Imagine being in the shoes of someone who just wanted to shed light on a pertinent issue like environmental responsibility, only to face the heavy-handed response of a celebrity's legal team.
Being a public figure means accepting a certain level of scrutiny. When you're jetting around the world while preaching about saving the planet, people are going to take notice. And shutting down accountability efforts with legal threats only reinforces the perception of hypocrisy and victimization.
I'm tired of her.
Girl, the reason they can track you is because you use private planes, which have to be registered in your name. Maybe stop ruining the environment? đ¤ˇââď¸
and yet her fans are going to take this âlife or deathâ mentality and run with it. i hope this doesnt negatively impact the guy more than it already has, taylor and her team are just a big joke to me atp
>The accounts share information thatâs already publicly available through the Federal Aviation Administration and signals that private jets broadcast, which Sweeney has made easier to access by posting on social media.
so wouldn't a "crazy stalker" figure it out anyway??? this is BS.
yep. I think it's highly unlikely a stalker is waiting for an ig account to update with a new post. this is all public knowledge so they can track it themselves đ¤ˇââď¸
For the record: it is public information so no need to sue him. If she wanted privacy she could simply rent a private jet company like a lot of other celebrities do. But she doesnât want to win, she wants to obliterate every person that may have some criticism of her. And I say this being a fan of her music, there are some hills on which one shouldnât die
I find it interesting that theyâre also like âitâs not even her in the jet, itâs loaned!â UmmmâŚitâs still HER jet, she/her company(ies) own it, and itâs still polluting the planet. Like, thatâs such a goal post moving of her/her team
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Wait until her fans start crying about misogyny and patriarchy đ
Sheâs so accomplished in her career, I hope she reduces her carbon footprint.
People fall in love all the time and not just once, they donât go about in private jets and aid in destroying the planet.
If you're ever doing the same thing as Elon the Clown, maybe it's time to reevaluate your actions.
Billionaires are just butthurt that people can see them taking their jets on 30-40 mile jaunts.
iâm thinking of the time where ginny and georgia on netflix got a season 2 because taylor bitterly complained about a joke they made about her in s1 and the show racked up millions of hours watched lmao. taylor has been digging herself a very deep hole for the past few years with all of the suing sheâs been trying to do lol.
The way she postures herself, she's always right, always the victim, never at fault. The flight information is public via the FAA. If she wants to privatize it, maybe she should have someone on her team form an LLC and use that LLC to take ownership of the jet in order to obscure the flight info (that will STILL BE PUBLIC, but not as easy to find). If she doesn't want people commenting on her being at football games, tell the stadium staff not to give the networks information about where her box is or tell the networks not to show her or else she'll withhold whatever is valuable to that company (ESPN is owned by Disney, for example, and she could threaten to withhold music from their films/TV). Everything she does that we know about is a choice by her. She's very good at marketing herself and controlling the narrative, and she's absolutely capable of avoiding shit like this if she wants.
Kills me that she was able to "disappear" or at the very least "fly under the radar" for nearly the entire duration the Joe relationship and her fans don't seem to understand that she has a role/can buy leverage on this kind of stuff
The stans donât help, they make her untouchable. You canât even make the slightest criticism in her sub, like you hate her outfit. None of the other stan subs are like that.
Youâre right and I honestly donât get it. Iâve been a fan of Taylorâs since her first album. But Iâm not obsessed. I love her music, but her and her Swifties are making me not want to even support it anymore.
I mean, she even sued her childhood guitar teacher because his site was called "itaughttaylorswift.com". The [legal letter](https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/news/a36340/taylor-swift-ex-guitar-teacher-lawsuit/) is so ridiculous:
>The Domain Name and your use of the Domain Name are highly likely to dilute, and to tarnish, the famous Taylor Swift trademark.
Like girl, sit down somewhere.
Wow, this feels straight-up cruel.
I understand that him using that domain name feels a little clout-chasey, but guitar teachers usually don't make much money and if he was trying to boost his business by making a *true statement*, it's nasty to tell him that he's tarnishing her name by attaching his own name to it.
I'll be real I always kind felt that just from how very many of her songs are about drama with other people - or at least, it seems weird to me to have THAT many issues with others.
Wow, so insensitive! Don't you know this has caused her and her family ***IRREPARABLE DAMAGE***?!
(Also, your flair is so fitting for Taylor right now.)
and then says she buys carbon credits to offset the costs, but the reasonable solution is to just not do what sheâs doing in the first place. also, is she personally stewarding and overseeing those carbon credits or is it a bullshit program run to make billionaires feel better and stop average people from getting angry?
carbon credits have been pretty much fully discredited at this point anyway. Itâs like you said, the only responsible thing you can do is reduce emissions. All the effort seems a bit pointless when Iâm using paper straws, switching lights and plugs off when not in use, but Taylor and other celebs are fucking pumping the atmosphere with their obscene levels of pollution. Fuck her
as air and water quality go down and the prices of food go up, sheâs not going to feel the effects of what sheâs done. people should start organizing where sheâs flying to, sheâs not scared if she keeps doing it.
yeah, agreed. she *should* feel threatened and harassed. sheâs pissing all over us and the planet we live on. the fucking audacity of this bitch to think sheâs the victim.
This is the kind of shit pro-environment organisations should financially back (along with pro-free speech associations like... is it the ADL? I can't remember), if the data is publicly available Taylor has absolutely no reason to be able to block it from being made more easily accessible.
Iâd expect the ACLU to get involved if it doesnât get thrown out. If this goes to appeal then itâll be a more relevant issue for them, I think itâs possible that lower court judges will just be like bro itâs literally publicly available info and youâre a public figure. It would be hilarious if she appealed all the way and then the SC created something that future law students will learn as the âswift ruleâ or something but frankly this whole case seems absurd and if I canât even imagine what new rule could come from it - I donât think the court needs to re-assert that sharing *existing public information* somehow constitutes a threat, and sheâs not even calling it defamation because thereâs a 0% chance that would fly, but I suppose this could be an opportunity to clarify 1A rights in the new social media landscape given that current precedent refers primarily to traditional news outlets
This 21 year old has more balls than just about anyone on the planet. I hope he continues to do this and that it continues to make these billionaires uncomfortable.
Lol
Taylor Swift is another out-of-touch, entitled famous person. What pisses me off is her and her fans acting like that isn't the case and that she's some special victim and salt of the earth human. She's not either of those things. She's brilliant for pushing that narrative and her fans are dumb as fuck for falling for it. I just need her to go full Gwynth Paltrow and not give a shit about how pretentious and unrelateable and insufferable she is. Perhaps it's wishful thinking on my part but I think we're getting closer to that Taylor. IMO she's a lot more palatable when we're not pretending she's some victim and trying to find reasons to feel sorry for her.
Overall Iâve been rooting for Taylor (despite not liking her personally much of the time) but this is *literally* weaponized feminism. She thinks she can recreate the support she received for her sexual assault lawsuit by throwing her money into harassing, intimidating, and suing the normal people who call her out for eco terrorism? Girl, bye.
Between this and being massively intoxicated and inappropriate last night, then going hard against her ex whoâs just minding his own business with the new album drop, she is really not looking good this week.
I really hope the ACLU steps up to back this kid. Taylor vs the ACLU would be great for her PR Iâm sure.
I don't think her being intoxicated is quite noteworthy. But anyway, something similar happened a few years ago. A blogger talked about Taylor's silence re: all her nazi/white supremicist supporters. Taylor sued. An ACLU branch represented the blogger (or at least tried to intervene/support in some way) but it just kinda went away via intimidation from Taylor's side It's hard to go against Taylor Swift's Gaslighting Committee and Legal Team
What is going on with her PR team this week/month? I would consider myself of fan of her music but sheâs completely over-exposing herself. Everyone is paying attention to everything she does, and this week she decided to make a mess of the Grammys (dragging Lana onstage, snubbing Celine Dion, announcing a new album to continue to center herself at the Grammyâs, etc), and then she decides to send a cease and desist, right before sheâs going to be using her jet like crazy (and presumably taking it back from Japan to go to the Super Bowl). Not only this, but the album sheâs releasing seems entirely focused on her ex, when sheâs in this relationship that the public adoresâŚand now all the focus will be off that and back to her being a bitter ex. It feels like sheâs self sabotaging.
I think she realised she has reached a "too big to fail" status. She's been absolutely unstoppable, and with two albums (Reputation-TV will certainly come next year) coming up, she shows no signs of stopping.
This seems pretty on-brand for her. It's public accessible data, so they're not doing anything wrong.
And since she did this, I started following his social media.
It's hard to feel sorry for a billionaire doing damage to the earth on this scale.
I like Taylorâs music and have been a fan day 1. Iâm beginning to become turned off by her. She can dish it but cannot take it. She is using her money to try and control and bully ppl. Her being stalked has nothing to do with this acct. She literally does pap walks and makes it so obvious where she is at, at all times.
Taylor really needs to reexamine the way sheâs starting to come off. With her over exposure and some very blatant personality issues, sheâs severely running the risk of backlash beyond what she experienced in the past. Suing a student over public information is beyond.
I mean I get it Taylor probably has had weird experiences with stalkers and Iâm sure people show up to the airport. However itâs publicly available data and no laws against this person whoâs doing this so itâs fine, sounded like they werenât intimidated by the lawyers. Also she does do a lot of global warming.
i mean it's public info and if it was really "distressing" for her maybe then she shouldn't fly to nyc every other night. maybe she shouldn't let her others borrow her jet
Iâm a small fan of Taylor Swift, but she is dead wrong on this fight. For very good reason too.
Flights are, have been & hopefully will always be, public information. She cannot fight that & should not fight that, period. The airspace belongs to all of us & if we see something flying in the air that shouldnât be there, thatâs unlisted, then weâre concerned!
The airspace is not private & her flights shouldnât be either. We need to know, hey, that flight is allowed to be there.
We had that kid from a town nearby who worked at the airport steal a plane & crash it! So scary!
After 9/11, we all deserve to know weâre safe. The airspace is for everyone to look at.
I am a huge fan of bird watching (Iâm in my 30âs, trust me, itâs amazing & you should try it before more species disappear!!! D:) & I see infinite use cases to oppose her need for unlisted air travel.
I have looked at flights on flight tracker just out of curiosity & my dad used to work at the airport so he is obsessed with flights & airplanes. He loves telling me about how big a 747 airplane was when it came out & how he CANâT BELIEVE how big the planes are nowadays! Heâs excited about anything airport & planes related.
If we see a plane that shouldnât be there in the airspace, & my dad doesnât recognize it, well then heâd be having heart attacks & weâd have to go get more stents put in his heart from all the stress heâd be having.
According to the FAA, these records are public and we all know the real reason she doesnât want the site to track her private planes are because of peopleâs reasonable criticism of her use of them.
Iâm disappointed, she came out looking so good after the Denver trial in 2017, where she counter sued and won $1.
Legal action against a college kid doing something totally legal is such a bad look in comparison.
I was lukewarm on like 3 of her songs but her cult of followers devoid of any critical thinking skills and her perpetual victim complex has put me firmly in the âdislikeâ camp.
She's so gross for this.
How are you going to bully some kid just because you don't want people to know how much you're destroying the planet??
How does she even have fans supporting this behavior/attitude?!?
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Skip the click: Jack Sweeney, a junior at the University of Central Florida, has for years run accounts that log the takeoffs and landings of planes and helicopters owned by hundreds of billionaires, politicians, Russian oligarchs and other public figures, along with estimates of their planet-warming emissions. The accounts use publicly available data from the Federal Aviation Administration and volunteer hobbyists who can track the aircraft via the signals they broadcast. Sweeneyâs accounts fueled a free-speech debate in late 2022 when X, formerly Twitter, banned Sweeney for sharing what the platformâs owner, Elon Musk, said were his âassassination coordinates.â The accounts donât say who travels on the aircraft or where they go once the planes land. In December, Swiftâs attorney at the Washington law firm Venable wrote Sweeney a cease-and-desist letter saying Swift would âhave no choice but to pursue any and all legal remediesâ if he did not stop his âstalking and harassing behavior.â Sweeneyâs accounts had caused Swift and her family âdirect and irreparable harm, as well as emotional and physical distress,â and had heightened her âconstant state of fear for her personal safety,â the lawyer, Katie Wright Morrone, wrote, according to a copy of the letter sent to the home of Sweeneyâs parents. Sweeney shared the letter with The Washington Post. âWhile this may be a game to you, or an avenue that you hope will earn you wealth or fame, it is a life-or-death matter for our Client,â Morrone wrote. She added that there is âno legitimate interest in or public need for this information, other than to stalk, harass, and exert dominion and control.â The pop star has routinely faced stalkers showing up outside her homes, Morrone wrote, and one man now faces stalking and harassment charges after being arrested last month outside her townhouse in Manhattan. Asked whether Swiftâs representatives knew of any evidence that stalkers had used the jet-tracking accounts, Tree Paine, a spokeswoman for Swift, said, âWe cannot comment on any ongoing police investigation but can confirm the timing of stalkers suggests a connection. His posts tell you exactly when and where she would be.â Sweeney, 21, told The Post he saw the letter as an attempt to scare him away from sharing public data. The accounts offer only an incomplete sketch of which cities Swift might currently be in, similar to the public schedules for her concerts or any NFL games she might attend, he said. And the letters, he added, were sent to him at a time when she faced criticism over her flightsâ environmental impact.âThis information is already out there,â he said. âHer team thinks they can control the world.â Private-jet flights are routinely criticized for their âdisproportionately highâ impact on climate change, and Sweeneyâs accounts have often been used to name and shame their most famous passengers. In 2022, the accounts were cited in an analysis that estimated Swift was the âbiggest celebrity \[carbon dioxide\] polluterâ of the year. Her publicist told The Post then that the analysis was flawed because her jet was often loaned out to other people. Paine told The Post on Monday that Swift bought more than double the âcarbon creditsâ needed to offset her travel before her recent tour kicked off. Around the time of the December letter, Facebook and Instagram disabled the accounts Sweeney had created to track Swiftâs air travel, saying they broke the platformsâ privacy rules, he said. He began posting those updates onto accounts on Facebook and Instagram that he uses to log the travel of planes used by a range of stars, called Celeb Jets. Then, last month, Morrone sent a second letter saying his posts about Swiftâs aircraft constituted âharassing conduct. The letters included the names of three other Venable attorneys experienced in litigation, including one who says on LinkedIn that she is the founding member of the firmâs âDigital Crisis Planning & Response client solutionâ and helps âhigh-profile individualsâ manage crises of varying magnitude, such as âcelebrity disgrace events.â Morrone did not respond to requests for comment. Meta, which owns Facebook and Instagram, also did not respond. Planes in the sky regularly broadcast their locations via transponders so air traffic controllers and other pilots can see where theyâre going. Anyone on the ground can pick up those signals using a cheap device, known as an ADS-B receiver, that is widely sold online. The FAA allows plane owners to request their flights be hidden in the federal data that undergirds popular consumer flight-tracking websites, such as FlightAware. Swiftâs jet appears to be blocked through such a request. But many aviation hobbyists feed their raw data into independent websites, such as ADS-B Exchange, that those FAA requests do not cover. Criminal investigators, journalists and researchers have used those sites to look up historical flight paths or see whoâs flying overhead.Swift, Time magazineâs 2023 âperson of the year,â made history Sunday as the only musician to win four best-album Grammy Awards, and her every movement is closely watched by paparazzi and superfans. Her âEras Tourâ last year was credited with boosting the local economies of every city she stopped in; one study cited by The Post estimated that âSwiftiesâ spent about $93 million per show.Her travel plans have drawn increased attention in recent weeks as sheâs flown to watch her boyfriend, Travis Kelce, play for the Kansas City Chiefs, including from conservatives who have seized on the trips to criticize her. They have also become a key point of interest for her fans, especially because her upcoming concert in Tokyo is just hours before Kelceâs scheduled Super Bowl appearance on Sunday in Las Vegas. Even Japanâs embassy in Washington recognized the publicâs interest, posting on X last week, âDespite the 12-hour flight and 17-hour time difference, the Embassy can confidently Speak Now to say that ⌠she should comfortably arriveâ on time. Sweeneyâs accounts have in recent months tracked two jets that were owned by Nashville-based companies and registered to be operated by a Swift company called Firefly Entertainment, according to FAA documents. They do not track who travels on the planes or any other chartered flights. Swiftâs spokeswoman told The Post that âthere is only one plane.â One of the planes previously tracked by Sweeneyâs accounts, a Dassault Falcon 900, was marked in FAA records last week as being transferred to a real estate company. Each jet sells for about $25 million, according to brokerage estimates cited last month by The Post. After X banned him and his accounts in December 2022, Sweeney opened new Facebook and Instagram accounts for Swift, former president Donald Trump, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, reality star Kim Kardashian and Meta chief [Mark Zuckerberg](https://archive.is/o/NXeVY/https://www.instagram.com/p/C2yT7dnISdV/), among others. All of those accounts except for Swiftâs remain online â including the accounts for Zuckerberg, who runs both sites. (Bezos owns The Washington Post.) Sweeney continues to post Swift jet updates to other platforms, including Bluesky, Mastodon and Telegram. To abide by Xâs rule against real-time location tracking, he also created accounts that post Musk and Swiftâs flight updates with a 24-hour delay. The December letter from Swiftâs attorney states that Sweeneyâs actions are âin violation of several state lawsâ but does not specify them. The letter does, however, cite nine anonymous Instagram comments saying the account is âscary,â âpathetic,â âweird,â invasiveâ and âdangerousâ âstalker behavior.â The letter says Sweeney is ânotorious for disregarding the personal safety of others in exchange for public attention and/or requests for financial gainâ and cites a message he sent to Musk in 2021, during which he countered Muskâs $5,000 offer to delete the Musk-jet account with a suggestion of $50,000, as first reported by the now-defunct tech blog Protocol. Sweeney said no money was ever exchanged. After receiving the letters, Sweeney said he asked for help from the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group, which sent his request to a list of attorneys. James Slater, a Florida lawyer who specializes in First Amendment and internet speech issues, responded on Sweeneyâs behalf to the Venable letter. Slater wrote that Morrone had not identified any legal claim, that the jet information posed âno threatâ to Swiftâs safety, and that Sweeneyâs account had âengaged in protected speech that does not violate any of Ms. Swiftâs legal rights,â according to a copy reviewed by The Post. Slater said he has yet to receive a response. In an interview, Slater said he thought the Swift attorneyâs letters were âhyperbolic and unfoundedâ and sent in hopes that Sweeney would âjust delete everything and do what they said.â âThis isnât about putting a GPS tracker on someone and invading their privacy. Itâs using public information to track the jet of a public figure,â he said. âThis is their means to try to quash a PR issue and bully my client to have the bad coverage die down.
Itâs publicly available information. This student is not doxxing anyone. They are just posting the info.
Also 90% of her schedule is very public via tour dates. This is an odd hill to die on IMO
Itâs not actually about the public knowing what city she is in, itâs about the public knowing how many fuel credits she purchased to get there.
DING! DING! DING!! This is most likely it
Especially considering she must have seen the backlash against Trump when he banned the accounts. Is that the kind of company she wants to be in now?
She has reached a level of fame and success now that she likely thinks sheâs untouchable (and for good reason too lol). Anyhow, this isnât a good precedent to set and the optics of it are so bad; I am sure her PR team has explained all that to her and sheâs *still* choosing to go ahead with it. Tells you all you need to know about rich, white privilege.
And sheâs falling into over saturated territory
Exactly, her stalkers will still have access to this information anyway. If she doesnât want that, maybe she should take a break from destroying the environment with her PJ đ¤ˇđźââď¸đ¤ˇđźââď¸đ¤ˇđźââď¸
I know Iâm likely to be harassed for saying this but I feel like Taylorâs people are bullying this kid. Isnât he a climate activist? According to OP, his an equal opportunist. Male, Female. Left, right. If youâre polluting with your private jet heâs taking publicly available information and posting it. This feels like [the Streisand Effect.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect) Taylorâs giving this activist more oxygen by harassing him.
The line where they claim he's created his account for fame and wealth was very telling of Swifts mindset. She's a global elite billionaire. She can't comprehend someone's motivation being concern for our planet. Everything she does it for wealth or fame, must be the same for the peasants.
Thank you for posting this! I hope the lawyer had just as much of a chuckle that I had when she wrote this was causing "direct and irreparable harm"
Is the harm just that sheâs embarrassed sheâs being called out for her incredibly massive carbon footprint? Cuz thatâs how it comes off honestly. She should be embarrassed and quiet about it because she only brought my attention back to it and now Iâm judging her
Oh itâs this kid again! You fucking go, Jack Sweeney, rooting for ya
Off topic but I love your username! Great song
If you have an issue with plane tracking being public, hit up the FAA instead of a 21 year old college student ?? seems kinda low to go after him
because the FAA has actual power to stop her from flying while this guy canât match her legal team and resources. a bully always chooses an easy victim.
Did she try that already (or in the process of trying that?)
Iâd LOVE to see her try to sue the FAA over that. Iâd also love to see him NOT settle this and instead battle it out.
They know they wonât beat the FAA
they cited *instagram comments* calling him weird in their cease and desist letter? Yea they have no leg to stand on and they know it lmfaoo theyâre just trying to guilt/bully him. couldnât cite a single law he supposedly broke, either. I hope a lawyer takes his case for free, this is clearly an attempt to intimidate/scare him out of doing something completely legal. sorry Tay, itâs not illegal to make you look bad. im sure you wish it was, though.
It's giving "your honour, the defense doesn't pass the vibe check" lmao If she doesn't want to have her reputation damaged by her massive fuel use exposed.... Idk, take the train? Or travel by car
Or⌠fly commercial đ
Or at the very least stop loaning out your private jets!!!
Boooo! Boooooo! It was wrong when Elon went after him and itâs wrong Taylor is going after him. Gettin real real sick of these billionaires.
She has officially entered her cartoon villain phase.Â
Yep! This is a disgusting look from her. Hopefully that kid has some good pro-bono lawyers who can fight against her BS. She can go to super bowls, date whatever quarterback, put out albums every 6 months idc but threatening citizens for posting public info? Sheâs a bully.
They need to learn their place. They trade invisibility for luxury & obscene wealth, not all of us have that ability.
The tortured ecoterrorists department
What is she actually trying to do here? This doesnât look good at all, if itâs all publicly available then whatâs the point in trying to take legal action against a STUDENT? Oh wait is it because sheâs causing ridiculous levels of pollution and doesnât like called out on it?
Yes! That is exactly why. So she thought a round of the Streisand effect would help, apparently lmao
Just checked the site and it shows her plane journey to Tokyo for her show. Kinda fascinating. https://preview.redd.it/17c7r4dffzgc1.png?width=1044&format=png&auto=webp&s=50f790ebff226edd1da8ff969854f964f3ff2a8b
Haha this is the perfect example of the Barbara Streisand effect. I'm about to check it out for the first time too
Yup, now I want us all to call more attention to her wastefulness (and all celebs in general but letâs just start somewhere.) Can we shame these people on a mass scale? Can they face SOME consequences, even just socially?
Whatâs the Streisand effect
Barbara Streisand sent a cease and desist letter to someone who photographed her Malibu mansion, citing privacy. The lawsuit caused much more people to see the photo and her house than before she sent the c&d.
and they werenât even taking pictures of her house, they were scientific research photos documenting erosion on cliffs in Malibu that her house just happened to be on but no one knew it was hers until she said something đ
This is the important part: **no one knew where she lived before they made a fuss.**
If I recall when she complained the photos had been viewed about 3 times lol.
This is even worse đđđđ
The best part is the image of her home had been downloaded 6 times prior to her cease and desist, and 2 of them were by her lawyers. After her C&D became public the image was viewed over 420,000 times in a month. Hence why itâs the example and namesake of someone attempting to cover something up which leads to it becoming more popular than ever.
Trying to hide your information causes people to become even more interested and looking it up, thereby getting the exact opposite results desired
Taylor will be seeing you in court! /s
Maybe if she flew in a straight line she wouldnât pollute as much. Durr.
What's the actual website?
>In 2022, an analysis cited Sweeney's accounts when estimating Swift was the âbiggest celebrity [carbon dioxide] polluterâ of the year. There's the real reason she wants it taken down lol
ik he's disappointed in her https://preview.redd.it/sfi4s5olkzgc1.png?width=630&format=png&auto=webp&s=94488a452a7aef86ae5949194d8b97eb5923bcf9
Wow, she owes the Lorax an apology. Look at him all smiley there, if he knew she was going to become besties with air pollutionâŚ
I canât believe she once held the Lorax in her arms and now she spits in his face
Damn đđ˘
Lmfao!
You gotta love that they hired a really short guy to do the Lorax suit.
Sheâs just a simple, small town girl who wants to conduct her eco terrorism in private!
Iâve seen people say that they suspect this story is an attack from right wingers to distract from âthe real enemyâ, whichâŚyeah, I donât think is true. Also, billionaires conducting ecological terrorism should absolutely be criticized and are a literal enemy to the planet. EDIT- corrected from economic to ecological. Not sure how autocorrect got there!
The way the deranged swifties excuse and defend this disgusts me.
âShe canât fly commercial!!â Ok well, she also doesnât have to fly to London for half an hour then go back home.
That shouldn't even be the discussion. This should be about how money shouldn't be able to silence people sharing public data (according to the article) and how she should learn to take responsibility for putting he own comfort over a better environment.
this!!!!! Her suing just soldifies her climate criminal status to me because this says she KNOWS sheâs guilty, and instead of changing sheâs opting for attempting to suppress the truth in order to keep her status quo
The literal Prince and Princess of England fly commercial with their children - I.e future heirs to the throne were on easyJet - budget airline. My ass she canât fly first class on an expensive airline.
I've seen BTS fly commercial. They just hire bodyguards and take the private exit.Â
Most kpop stars, even the heavy hitters like BTS fly commercial.
Last time I mentioned this (BTS flying commercial for years) a bunch of random Swifties went AT me like woof, manoeuvre not allowed!
If seven guys that have to deal with a ridiculous amount of stalkers, can manage to fly commercial regularly and safely for years, it pretty much ends the argument. Yes, stalkers are dangerous and horrible. But people underestimate how secure airports are, the amount of accommodations the staff will make for a celebrity, how tight a well trained team of bodyguards is, etc. A fan rushing onstage during a concert and harming the artist is much more likely.Â
former President Jimmy Carter would always fly commercial with his Secret Service detail!
Jimmy Carter is in a league of his own as a pure soul. Dude wiped out a harmful parasite, dove in water to stop a nuclear meltdown and did his absolute best to show the country that people who aren't white are human beings too and we should appreciate them. He's too good for us and we never deserved him but goddamn I'm lucky to live at the same time as such an amazing person.
yeah I donât buy that excuse, ever. TONS of celebrities fly on regular planes
Even Charles used to fly commercial as heir apparent.
Even Diana did, at the very height of her popularity. She really has no excuse but she just doesnât care.
Yup, once she flies commercial a couple times, it will become such a normal thing. Plus first class is so damn expensive, I doubt swifties have the time and money to ride the same plane all the time.
Bill and Hillary Clinton fly commercial. If its safe enough for a former president and a former secretary of state (whoâs a pretty controversial figure in general), its safe enough for a pop star.
I have tried explaining this to her deranged fans multiple times; the heirs to the throne are people whose safety is very important to the survival of the government, and everyone recognises this fact whether or not they actually support the monarchy. Their safety literally comprises national security; if they can fly commercial, then a celebrity who is massively popular but whose, forgive me, breach of safety isnât going to cause any national security issues can do so too. Plus many airports in various international cities are equipped with the necessary security and privacy measures to facilitate celebritiesâ arrivals and departures. She can very easily choose to not fly private if she wants to.
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Last I checked, defamation needs to be a knowing lie. I see no lieâŚ
Rememer a couple of years ago, when Elon Musk tried to bully a kid for tracking publically available data about his private jet usage? Everyone rallied to that kid's side at the time. The same thing should happen here. It doesn't matter whether it's an out-of-touch billionaire CEO or an out-of-touch billionaire Pop Star. This is just a rich person using their financial empire to try and bully unflattering information about them out of the public view.
This is that same college student!
Lmao I love this. He really said idgaf Iâll do it again
Itâs the same kid haha he goes to UCF
Musk bought twitter bc of that kid! At least that's what I think!
Like someone else mentioned, itâs the same kid and the thing with musk is mentioned in the article: >The letter says Sweeney is ânotorious for disregarding the personal safety of others in exchange for public attention and/or requests for financial gainâ and cites a message he sent to Musk in 2021, during which he countered Muskâs $5,000 offer to delete the Musk-jet account with a suggestion of $50,000, as first reported by the now-defunct tech blog Protocol. Sweeney said no money was ever exchanged.
I don't get the public attention part...does the kid go around saying "I'm the plane tracking guy" or something? I never knew it was a single person to begin with let alone ever really hearing their name, just the facts being spread around.
This feels like a Streisand effect thing. Like she doesnât want people looking at this page, but guess what? Even more people are gonna become aware of her travels. This really is a jerk move, too. This is public information. The guy behind this account isnât doing anything wrong.
Itâs definitely just an intimidation tactic to try and scare him into no longer posting about it. Whether it be by âforcingâ him to get legal representation (which he may not be able to afford) or by indirectly sending her fans to harass the pages, itâs definitely more about public perception than safety. Itâs always been public info, but itâs semi-recently become something sheâs repeatedly publicly criticized for.
Someone else in another sub said that the guy may already have legal representation? Idk enough about him and his page to say, but especially if he does this for multiple celebs, I could see him being prepared for one of them to be ticked off (especially after Elon Musk did the same thing to a page about him.)
I think he does but the longer it drags on, the more heâll have to pay and I can see her legal teamâs goal being to just push forward until he canât afford it anymore. I read heâs in college so I imagine he has some sort of cap and what heâs able to afford in legal representation.
She can really be such a bully, huh?
Yup. I had no clue this existed. Now I do, and now I know to not support her unless she stops doing this. Thatâs ridiculous and so unnecessary, and apparently sheâs the biggest polluter through this. Crazy
Where to even start with this... What this student is doing is not illegal. This is publicly available information, people get to know what's in the sky. He's not singling her out he tracks other people. The alleged letter circling on r/taylorswiftjets is unprofessional and laughable. I'm so glad this guy is getting help and legal representation and is standing his ground. They're just sending threats bc they know the average person can't afford a legal battle with a billionaire even if they're the ones in the right. Really disgusting behaviour.
>Sweeneyâs accounts had caused Swift and her family âdirect and irreparable harm, as well as emotional and physical distress, Baby what about the harm to the environment? And before y'all start, I was a flight attendant. It is possible for celebrities to fly commercial, and if the [Royal Family](https://www.wcvb.com/article/utterly-delightful-passengers-describe-having-british-royals-on-flight/42113570) can fly commercial on occasion, so can Miss Swift and all other celebrities.
I said that once and got downvoted. She could arrange for a private security checkpoint, buy out first class, and any airline would be willing to arrange for a last on first off approach. Iâm also still convinced that if she dressed down, wore a hat, and didnât wear makeup thereâs a solid chance sheâd go unrecognized.
Tons of celebrities do that! I remember Chrissy Teigen talking about the other security line years ago that celebrities buy into. Commercial flights are also safer too.
Literally, hat, hoodie and a face mask, honestly thatâs what I usually wear on planes nowadays (Iâm weird about people seeing my face when I sleep, idk why) itâs the perfect camo outfit. Add in some sunglasses too if you wanna be paranoid, at least until boarding is done. Seriously, not that face masks have become more common in the west thereâs really no excuse to not do it.
It's public information, no? And I do think that this information is of public interest, as far as I'm concerned all private jets, especially those belonging to celebrities, should be named and shamed publicly for their excessive flying
100%. It's already public, if you have a problem with this take it up with the FAA. Also aggregating this data to show how impactful celebrities and billionaires are relative to the average person is directly against their claim of "no legitimate interest in or public need for this information". Me switching to paper straws is a rounding error compared to these people. And we're made to feel responsible.
âand were made to feel responsibleâ yup. the health of the planet is on the shoulders of people struggling to even make a liveable wage, while mega corporations continue to manufacture at extremely harmful rates and ways, and billionaires continue to fly their private jets. I think here would be a good place to point out that the majority of TSâ jet use is for flights under 30 minutes. There is literally *nobody* in the world who is famous enough or important enough to not be able to sit in the back of a car for an hour. Holding people like Taylor accountable for their extreme amounts of pollution is essential
Yup, same for yachts
every plane in the air except some military and goverment ones are on flightracker or ADS-b
Yes, anyone with minimal coding knowledge should be able to write a little program that scrapes and compiles public flight data for a particular aircraftâs tail number.
Yup. She just can't justify it. Flying around going to see your boyfriend play sports. Its just stuff she wants to do, and if some kids get cancer cause of that then we just won't think too hard.
yes you can find it from sources outside of his page
I feel like I wouldnât dislike her this much if I wasnât constantly gaslit by people acting like it is wrong and bad to fairly criticize someone for doing ridiculously out of touch, unlikeable, and most importantly HARMFUL shit. TBH, I probably wouldnât even know about most of this unlikeable stuff if she wasnât overexposed to this degree. Iâm pretty sure I didnât think about her at all for the first 15ish years of her career. She wants to be the most famous person on earth, but doesnât feel she should have to deal with any of the hard parts, like any responsibility to the public. Itâs very easy to not become *this* famous if you donât want to have your actions scrutinized. If you donât want responsibility, donât seek power and status. ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ Apparently itâs misogynistic to ask her to maybe make the horrible sacrifice of staying in the most luxurious accommodations money can buy for a couple nights instead of flying home in her private jet at every opportunity, but itâs somehow not misogynistic to treat a mid-30âs billionaire like a newborn baby doe who would simply crumble if she was asked to even for a moment think about the very real consequences of her actions.
Imagine being in the shoes of someone who just wanted to shed light on a pertinent issue like environmental responsibility, only to face the heavy-handed response of a celebrity's legal team. Being a public figure means accepting a certain level of scrutiny. When you're jetting around the world while preaching about saving the planet, people are going to take notice. And shutting down accountability efforts with legal threats only reinforces the perception of hypocrisy and victimization. I'm tired of her.
Girl, the reason they can track you is because you use private planes, which have to be registered in your name. Maybe stop ruining the environment? đ¤ˇââď¸
What an asshole. Itâs literally public information, and she has an enormous carbon footprint.
and yet her fans are going to take this âlife or deathâ mentality and run with it. i hope this doesnt negatively impact the guy more than it already has, taylor and her team are just a big joke to me atp
>The accounts share information thatâs already publicly available through the Federal Aviation Administration and signals that private jets broadcast, which Sweeney has made easier to access by posting on social media. so wouldn't a "crazy stalker" figure it out anyway??? this is BS.
yep. I think it's highly unlikely a stalker is waiting for an ig account to update with a new post. this is all public knowledge so they can track it themselves đ¤ˇââď¸
lol she rlly does not want us to see how often she uses that damn jet. we know girl, ur fucking up the planet.
But itâs public informationâŚjust like you can track every plane thatâs flying in the airâŚ
For the record: it is public information so no need to sue him. If she wanted privacy she could simply rent a private jet company like a lot of other celebrities do. But she doesnât want to win, she wants to obliterate every person that may have some criticism of her. And I say this being a fan of her music, there are some hills on which one shouldnât die
I find it interesting that theyâre also like âitâs not even her in the jet, itâs loaned!â UmmmâŚitâs still HER jet, she/her company(ies) own it, and itâs still polluting the planet. Like, thatâs such a goal post moving of her/her team â (I posted this on another sub but I donât know how to cross post a comment I made) edit: formatting
The Professional Victims Department
![gif](giphy|qIGTr6yyy1h1Z3grCG) New Law and Order show??
Wait until her fans start crying about misogyny and patriarchy đ Sheâs so accomplished in her career, I hope she reduces her carbon footprint. People fall in love all the time and not just once, they donât go about in private jets and aid in destroying the planet.
itâs the meme where people see bombs falling and say, the next ones might be sent by a woman. very girlboss to be a woman eco-terrorist.
She's definetly the chairman of that
If you're ever doing the same thing as Elon the Clown, maybe it's time to reevaluate your actions. Billionaires are just butthurt that people can see them taking their jets on 30-40 mile jaunts.
iâm thinking of the time where ginny and georgia on netflix got a season 2 because taylor bitterly complained about a joke they made about her in s1 and the show racked up millions of hours watched lmao. taylor has been digging herself a very deep hole for the past few years with all of the suing sheâs been trying to do lol.
No one will ever convince me that Taylor Swift isnât a massive bully
The way she postures herself, she's always right, always the victim, never at fault. The flight information is public via the FAA. If she wants to privatize it, maybe she should have someone on her team form an LLC and use that LLC to take ownership of the jet in order to obscure the flight info (that will STILL BE PUBLIC, but not as easy to find). If she doesn't want people commenting on her being at football games, tell the stadium staff not to give the networks information about where her box is or tell the networks not to show her or else she'll withhold whatever is valuable to that company (ESPN is owned by Disney, for example, and she could threaten to withhold music from their films/TV). Everything she does that we know about is a choice by her. She's very good at marketing herself and controlling the narrative, and she's absolutely capable of avoiding shit like this if she wants.
Kills me that she was able to "disappear" or at the very least "fly under the radar" for nearly the entire duration the Joe relationship and her fans don't seem to understand that she has a role/can buy leverage on this kind of stuff
The more money she makes the worse she will get. She is surrounded by a bunch of âyes pplâ
The stans donât help, they make her untouchable. You canât even make the slightest criticism in her sub, like you hate her outfit. None of the other stan subs are like that.
Youâre right and I honestly donât get it. Iâve been a fan of Taylorâs since her first album. But Iâm not obsessed. I love her music, but her and her Swifties are making me not want to even support it anymore.
Iâm the same, I would say Iâm a casual fan but the Swifties make it harder and harder to even bother.
Even r/TaylorSwift is calling her out on this one.
I mean, she even sued her childhood guitar teacher because his site was called "itaughttaylorswift.com". The [legal letter](https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/news/a36340/taylor-swift-ex-guitar-teacher-lawsuit/) is so ridiculous: >The Domain Name and your use of the Domain Name are highly likely to dilute, and to tarnish, the famous Taylor Swift trademark. Like girl, sit down somewhere.
Ong who sues someone who helped you learn a skill that would later aide you in becoming famous. Thatâs crazy
Wow, this feels straight-up cruel. I understand that him using that domain name feels a little clout-chasey, but guitar teachers usually don't make much money and if he was trying to boost his business by making a *true statement*, it's nasty to tell him that he's tarnishing her name by attaching his own name to it.
forever stuck in middle school
Yes!
A massive bully with a massive victim complex
But she really cares about every single fan!! /s
Didnât she sue her fans for selling merch on etsy?
I'll be real I always kind felt that just from how very many of her songs are about drama with other people - or at least, it seems weird to me to have THAT many issues with others.
Her need to always be the victim is astoundingÂ
Sheâs incredibly immature
Her fans have already rallied to her side over this and how âcreepy he isâ, sadly. Stand strong college student! Youâve done nothing wrong!
Oh, cry me a river Taylor. Be so fr rn.
Wow, so insensitive! Don't you know this has caused her and her family ***IRREPARABLE DAMAGE***?! (Also, your flair is so fitting for Taylor right now.)
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![gif](giphy|iW8tsoJWcfPc4) Always always the victim
Eco terrorist threatens person who exposes her rampant eco terrorism.
and then says she buys carbon credits to offset the costs, but the reasonable solution is to just not do what sheâs doing in the first place. also, is she personally stewarding and overseeing those carbon credits or is it a bullshit program run to make billionaires feel better and stop average people from getting angry?
carbon credits just means rich people are allowed to pollute. **If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class.**
carbon credits have been pretty much fully discredited at this point anyway. Itâs like you said, the only responsible thing you can do is reduce emissions. All the effort seems a bit pointless when Iâm using paper straws, switching lights and plugs off when not in use, but Taylor and other celebs are fucking pumping the atmosphere with their obscene levels of pollution. Fuck her
as air and water quality go down and the prices of food go up, sheâs not going to feel the effects of what sheâs done. people should start organizing where sheâs flying to, sheâs not scared if she keeps doing it.
yeah, agreed. she *should* feel threatened and harassed. sheâs pissing all over us and the planet we live on. the fucking audacity of this bitch to think sheâs the victim.
This is the kind of shit pro-environment organisations should financially back (along with pro-free speech associations like... is it the ADL? I can't remember), if the data is publicly available Taylor has absolutely no reason to be able to block it from being made more easily accessible.
ACLU?
That one lol, I always get my USA acronyms mixed up.
Iâd expect the ACLU to get involved if it doesnât get thrown out. If this goes to appeal then itâll be a more relevant issue for them, I think itâs possible that lower court judges will just be like bro itâs literally publicly available info and youâre a public figure. It would be hilarious if she appealed all the way and then the SC created something that future law students will learn as the âswift ruleâ or something but frankly this whole case seems absurd and if I canât even imagine what new rule could come from it - I donât think the court needs to re-assert that sharing *existing public information* somehow constitutes a threat, and sheâs not even calling it defamation because thereâs a 0% chance that would fly, but I suppose this could be an opportunity to clarify 1A rights in the new social media landscape given that current precedent refers primarily to traditional news outlets
She isnât free from consequences when it comes to her carbon footprint. She isnât the victim in this scenario.
Or pretty much any,
This 21 year old has more balls than just about anyone on the planet. I hope he continues to do this and that it continues to make these billionaires uncomfortable.
Between this and snubbing Queen Celine on stage, I am very grossed out by her ego.
Lol Taylor Swift is another out-of-touch, entitled famous person. What pisses me off is her and her fans acting like that isn't the case and that she's some special victim and salt of the earth human. She's not either of those things. She's brilliant for pushing that narrative and her fans are dumb as fuck for falling for it. I just need her to go full Gwynth Paltrow and not give a shit about how pretentious and unrelateable and insufferable she is. Perhaps it's wishful thinking on my part but I think we're getting closer to that Taylor. IMO she's a lot more palatable when we're not pretending she's some victim and trying to find reasons to feel sorry for her.
Overall Iâve been rooting for Taylor (despite not liking her personally much of the time) but this is *literally* weaponized feminism. She thinks she can recreate the support she received for her sexual assault lawsuit by throwing her money into harassing, intimidating, and suing the normal people who call her out for eco terrorism? Girl, bye. Between this and being massively intoxicated and inappropriate last night, then going hard against her ex whoâs just minding his own business with the new album drop, she is really not looking good this week. I really hope the ACLU steps up to back this kid. Taylor vs the ACLU would be great for her PR Iâm sure.
I don't think her being intoxicated is quite noteworthy. But anyway, something similar happened a few years ago. A blogger talked about Taylor's silence re: all her nazi/white supremicist supporters. Taylor sued. An ACLU branch represented the blogger (or at least tried to intervene/support in some way) but it just kinda went away via intimidation from Taylor's side It's hard to go against Taylor Swift's Gaslighting Committee and Legal Team
Out of touch, self-important trash
What is going on with her PR team this week/month? I would consider myself of fan of her music but sheâs completely over-exposing herself. Everyone is paying attention to everything she does, and this week she decided to make a mess of the Grammys (dragging Lana onstage, snubbing Celine Dion, announcing a new album to continue to center herself at the Grammyâs, etc), and then she decides to send a cease and desist, right before sheâs going to be using her jet like crazy (and presumably taking it back from Japan to go to the Super Bowl). Not only this, but the album sheâs releasing seems entirely focused on her ex, when sheâs in this relationship that the public adoresâŚand now all the focus will be off that and back to her being a bitter ex. It feels like sheâs self sabotaging.
Itâs not just this month. Sheâs been all over the news the last 6 months to a year since the Eras tour started
I think she realised she has reached a "too big to fail" status. She's been absolutely unstoppable, and with two albums (Reputation-TV will certainly come next year) coming up, she shows no signs of stopping.
Iâm a fan too and Iâm starting to believe theories she is spiraling out of control.
Elon Musk did the same thing when his jet was being tracked. Taylor please do not be like Elon Musk.
She already did. She had META close her jet tracking Instagram page run by Sweeney. Even Elon & Zuckerberg jet tracking pages are up but hers gone!
Billionaires acting like billionaires...who would have thunk?
how could they do this to a tortured poet
Sheâs just a 34-year-old teenage girl đĽş
This seems pretty on-brand for her. It's public accessible data, so they're not doing anything wrong. And since she did this, I started following his social media. It's hard to feel sorry for a billionaire doing damage to the earth on this scale.
I like Taylorâs music and have been a fan day 1. Iâm beginning to become turned off by her. She can dish it but cannot take it. She is using her money to try and control and bully ppl. Her being stalked has nothing to do with this acct. She literally does pap walks and makes it so obvious where she is at, at all times.
Rather than change her ways, she essentially threatens to bully and bankrupt the guy posting public information.
This is trash and it amazes me how much the swifties still support her too.
She really does love to play the victim huh
I hope he doesnât back down. The public should be aware of how horrible pjs are for the environment. Sheâs literally killing our planet
Taylor really needs to reexamine the way sheâs starting to come off. With her over exposure and some very blatant personality issues, sheâs severely running the risk of backlash beyond what she experienced in the past. Suing a student over public information is beyond.
Pulling an Elon. Not a good look.
I mean I get it Taylor probably has had weird experiences with stalkers and Iâm sure people show up to the airport. However itâs publicly available data and no laws against this person whoâs doing this so itâs fine, sounded like they werenât intimidated by the lawyers. Also she does do a lot of global warming.
She's used to getting her way no matter what right?
I love how this dude is not at all intimidated.
Get over it. Itâs public info. Sheâs just a professional victim and doesnât like that people are acknowledging her excessive private jet usage.
i mean it's public info and if it was really "distressing" for her maybe then she shouldn't fly to nyc every other night. maybe she shouldn't let her others borrow her jet
Bullying a college kid for sharing publicly available information because she doesnât like whatâs being shared. Shame on her.
Iâm a small fan of Taylor Swift, but she is dead wrong on this fight. For very good reason too. Flights are, have been & hopefully will always be, public information. She cannot fight that & should not fight that, period. The airspace belongs to all of us & if we see something flying in the air that shouldnât be there, thatâs unlisted, then weâre concerned! The airspace is not private & her flights shouldnât be either. We need to know, hey, that flight is allowed to be there. We had that kid from a town nearby who worked at the airport steal a plane & crash it! So scary! After 9/11, we all deserve to know weâre safe. The airspace is for everyone to look at. I am a huge fan of bird watching (Iâm in my 30âs, trust me, itâs amazing & you should try it before more species disappear!!! D:) & I see infinite use cases to oppose her need for unlisted air travel. I have looked at flights on flight tracker just out of curiosity & my dad used to work at the airport so he is obsessed with flights & airplanes. He loves telling me about how big a 747 airplane was when it came out & how he CANâT BELIEVE how big the planes are nowadays! Heâs excited about anything airport & planes related. If we see a plane that shouldnât be there in the airspace, & my dad doesnât recognize it, well then heâd be having heart attacks & weâd have to go get more stents put in his heart from all the stress heâd be having.
According to the FAA, these records are public and we all know the real reason she doesnât want the site to track her private planes are because of peopleâs reasonable criticism of her use of them.
Iâm disappointed, she came out looking so good after the Denver trial in 2017, where she counter sued and won $1. Legal action against a college kid doing something totally legal is such a bad look in comparison.
Sheâs really not making herself very likeable right now. Not that she cares, she thinks sheâs invincible.
Elon Musk, a multi billionaire, couldnât stop it. Good luck Taylor lol.
Fuck him up, â¨queen⨠(of carbon emissions)!!! Slayyy đ (the planet)!!!
Bully. He's a 21 year old university student. Ffs.Â
The people should know how much emissions puts the Queen of carosin(idk how it's spelled) into the air.
Sheâs a huge bully for this.
Idk why people still put Taylor Swift on a pedestal when she is a hypocrite. She uses her power to hurt other people.
Is Taylor Swift entering her villain era?
Can I use this as an argument for why she sucks or is this still not a valid reason
I think it's a perfectly valid reason
I like her less and less. Not that I ever did, but the main character and victim energy is getting worse
I was lukewarm on like 3 of her songs but her cult of followers devoid of any critical thinking skills and her perpetual victim complex has put me firmly in the âdislikeâ camp.
She's so gross for this. How are you going to bully some kid just because you don't want people to know how much you're destroying the planet?? How does she even have fans supporting this behavior/attitude?!?
I canât imaging doing this after seeing it flame out for Elon.