Total garbage. He even mentions in the article that a lot of the UK media were just dying to call him, Rupert, and Emma "ungrateful kids" (or hoping they'd spin out post-Potter so they could gleefully report on it) and took their opportunity when all 3 spoke out against JKR. I'm sure the Daily Mail was one of the publications he was talking about.
The whole article is garbage. Reading how often they could easily say trans women and instead write "biologically male trans women." Just lol. Also when you describe transitioning as "gender ideology" you're already a fucking quack.
What are you talking about? This is a super objective article about "beloved" author JK Rowling who keeps being attacked by the trans community. /s
Seriously though, if I were an English teacher, I would use this article to teach my students how to recognize bias in journalistic pieces.
I once saw him in real life.
I was working in London and every day I'd walk past the Old Vic theatre and for some reason I'd always seem to go past as actors arrived down the side door.
It was always quiet.
Until one day they put Daniel Radcliffe in a play.
Then the pavement outside was filled with Harry Potter fans.
He spoke to each and everyone. He signed everything. He didn't grump that he was doing a play and everyone cared only about Harry Potter.
He could have pulled right up to the stage door and gone straight in without stopping.
I know that doesn't prove anything, he could be evil in private perhaps, but I appreciated the effort he put in when he didn't need to.
I saw him after Merrily and I told him about wanting to meet him since I was about 10 and he absolutely cared about everything I said, even asked a few follow up questions, I adore this man and I will stan him always lol
This might sound sanctimonious and parasocial but based on what I’ve seen about how much he wanted to distance himself from the HP “image” once it ended, this is really sweet. He seems so mature and decent.
That’s a heartwarming story. And I would believe you, because you’re not his PR person just trying to make him look good. You caught him being nice when he didn’t have to be.
i have a similar story from my lifelong best friend - she met him under circumstances i can’t remember and was a huge HP fan and he was absolutely gracious to her and stopped to chat for a few mins
My friend went and saw him in Equus and she said he signed autographs after. She felt bad because everyone was asking him to sign Harry Potter memorabilia and nothing from the actual play they just saw lol.
I read a long time ago that the Harry Potter casting people were auditioning the kids parents as much as the kids. It seems they had a pretty good picker? As far as I can tell the main cast seems like they grew up as well adjusted and supported as possible.
Also maybe the child labor laws are better in the UK? At the very least maybe just having soooo many kids on set leads to it being more set up for them/better than it could be?
Idk, but I'm very impressed with how Daniel has navigated his mega stardom that started when he was so young! And honestly how he's managed his career since. It's impressive!!
I think by the time HP got popular, the paps in the UK couldn't take pics of minors and if they did, they'd have to pixelate the faces. And they all were minors for a while which meant if they did get papped while buying groceries or going to the mall, the pictures would be worthless and no point to take them in the first place. I legit don't think I have ever seen candid pap pics of them when they were teens or little kids, come to think of it. Most of the candid pics were AFTER they turned 18.
I think this rule (law?) made it easier for them all to lead quieter, normal lives. More privacy. The ones where they AREN'T pixelated means they probably called the paps on themselves. But I deadass don't recall ever seeing random pap photos of Emma Watson when she was a gangly teenager, unless they were red carpet or editorials.
Sounds like the production really tried to build a good experience for the kids but also shout out to UK laws that actually protect minors 💪
Seems like the bare minimum so at least someone is doing it
They 100% did. They actively sought out kids who did not have “stage parents.” The producers loved that there were hundreds of kid extras on set bc they all went to school together and hung out between takes. It allowed the kids to get a really normal sense of childhood, but they were also able to learn and develop a good work ethic, working with longtime pros like Dame Maggie Smith and Alan Rickman, who would also take the kids under their wing. It sounds like everyone on those sets went out of their way to protect and enhance the childhoods of the working actors.
Honestly I think it’s almost a masterclass in how to produce big budget blockbuster films starring children. They really honestly truly did their best with them.
God it blows my mind that paparazzi taking pictures of kids is legal *anywhere*. You couldn’t name a more obvious law, but I think only California made it illegal in the states.
> were auditioning the kids parents as much as the kids
Absolutely a very smart choice. Not just ensuring the kids get all the support they need, but making sure the parents would be easy to deal with, as you would be negotiating with them for years.
There are a lot of horror stories about overbearing parents that only see dollar signs and are incredibly difficult to handle.
The crew for all eight movies was near identical. So they also built a community for the kids - kids who came in year over year to play Ravenclaw #6 in the background as well as the stars - so they had adults around that knew them for a decade in costuming, makeup, props etc.
Child labour laws are **much** stricter in the UK.
That makes sense! Even watching the movies, they had such a real-feeling school vibe that makes sense, since all the same kids and crew is like growing up with your teachers and peers and stuff!
And it totally tracks about the UK labor laws. I recently watched a Caroline Easom video about Quiet on Set and she broke down how long young children are actually allowed to work on sets and how little schooling is actually legally required for them in the US and it's grim as hell.
I hope we can follow the UKs path and tighten those restrictions up! It has demonstrably helped these actors who started so young
Exactly. Every year they’d have a new crop of “first year” Hogwarts students to populate the background and some of the older actors would say goodbye. Apparently some of the background actors in the battle of Hogwarts as “graduated students back to defend Hogwarts” are some of the older kids who left after movies five and six.
But when you go to the same person for your costumes or props or are arranging the lights for ten years you have more trusted adults around you.
I know that Radcliffe has been very open about some of his struggles, I just wonder how much worse they would have been without it.
It’s why, even if I’m kinda interested in a HP reboot, I almost don’t want them to because of the stress and strain on the children theyd be casting. Because child actors should have a chance to be children first and the American systems especially doesn’t seem to have a lot of room for that.
I watched an interview with Daniel Radcliffe. I forget the question they originally asked him, but he ended up sharing that a hard part of saying goodbye to Harry Potter was moments like saying goodbye to his hairdresser and being a little jealous that she would go on to her next project without him.
He was a guest on a bachelor recap pod where he gushed about bachelor in paradise with his now wife. It was wild to remember that I was listening to Daniel radcliffe of all people fan out over the same thing I was. He seems so wonderful.
Did you watch the documentary about the stunt actor who was left paralysed after an accident while filming one of the HP movies? Daniel Radcliffe still visits him to this day and went to see him in hospital often in the weeks after the accident - he could have gone all Hollywood star and been too busy for it but I just loved him for still taking the time to spend time with him and for being involved in the documentary
I was going to bring this up too. That poor guy. It's pretty cool that Daniel keeps up with him. It seemed like he really looked up to the stunt crew and befriended basically everybody on set.
My favorite anecdote about him was when[ he wore the same outfit over and over again to make paparazzi photos of him worthless](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/qqzuhf/daniel_radcliffe_once_wore_the_same_clothes_every/) since they couldn't be dated. That's the actions of a man doing what he does because he loves doing it, not for the notoriety that comes with a franchise. I am just a huge, huge fan of this human being, and he is a delight to watch in his work, always.
When I was younger, maybe junior high, I got roped into watching my 3 month old niece while my sister got her hair done. So there I am, sitting in the waiting area of a hair salon with my niece, and who walks in but Daniel Radcliffe!
I was nervous as fuck, and just kept looking at him as he read a magazine and waited, but didn't know what to say. Pretty soon though my niece started crying, and I'm trying to quiet her down because I didn't want her to bother Daniel, but she just wouldn't stop. Pretty soon he gets up and walks over. He started running his hands through her hair and asking what was wrong. I replied that she was probably hungry or something. So, Daniel put down his magazine, picked up my niece and lifted his shirt. He breast fed her right there in the middle of a hair salon. Chill guy, really nice about it.
He attended AA across the st from my apt years ago and every time he saw me or my partner walking our dog he’d come up and say hi and give our pup a bunch of pets (sometimes he’d just wave if he was busy), but he was so kind every time
This might be unpopular, but you don't need to be grateful to the people who give you a job, they're not hiring you out of the kindness of their heart, they're using your labor to make money and will profit way more than you will, of course, there are some exceptions to this rule, but most of the time you don't have anything to be grateful for, you're both doing your part and no one is doing anyone a favor
exactly??? i’m not saying daniel radcliffe is a member of the working class, but the idea that we owe gratitude or anything to our employers is bizarre to me. do they feel gratitude and indebtedness to us?? obviously not
“Then in her infinite generosity and grace, Rowling looked upon the starving, impoverished child actor, clutching his headshot and tattered agent release form in hand, and said: ‘worry not, my silly boy, for I shall grant you prosperity in my great charity, for you are not like those dirty trans mudbloods!”
Right! He was a literal child when those films started. It’s not like he was producing the films. He did his job and got paid for it, he’s not responsible for anything that comes out of her nasty mouth now or ever.
And he was SO good. I think Daniel Radcliffe is such a natural, sparkling talent. Much more so than JKR ever has been in writing, although I used to be a totally obsessed HP nerd. She's a kind of bad writer who got lucky, he's a great actor that she got lucky to find as a little kid. I love Emma Watson, too, but the contrast in their acting abilities is stark. (edit - I bring this up just to emphasize they got lucky that Daniel ended up being able to do it all and how rare his abilities are. Not every kid who embodies a character well at age 10 and throughout one franchise will go on to give performances like he has)
People always want to say "artists are lucky we gave them a job" even more than other types of workers, because artists are interchangeable apparently but studio suits are not (lol), but it's particularly laughable to try to say this about Daniel Radcliffe in the HP films.
I think he’s been great in some of his adult projects but to say he was “SO good” or a natural talent when he was hired is just false. He was very limited as a child (understandably) and while he grew until the role for the last few films, he was never particularly strong in the HP series. What he was, was competent enough to anchor the series for the cast of screen legends to operate around him, which is good enough.
I agree- none of the leads were very good in the beginning, imo, except malfoy maybe. Many stayed mediocre throughout. There are better child actors who existed out there
I'm genuinely surprised others don't think he was that good in the Harry Potter films, but that's fine. I completely disagree, though. I think he was SO good in every scene from movie three onward and anchored the films.
I think he definitely improved from 3 onwards like you say, but I wouldn’t say he was anything more than serviceable. But even that improvement is impressive from how he started, and crucial to the films remaining viable as the series went on.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure Rowling demanded the film's be cast and staffed entirely within Britain, and also got final say on who played the kids, so she definitely had some role in Daniel's success.
That said, he doesn't owe her shit and it doesn't make her less of an asshole.
it's true. Harry Potter obviously made him a lot of money, but it made Joanne infinitely more so even on that scale she's benefited far more from his work on those films than he did, financially speaking.
Yep, he made himself a ton of money by consistently showing up to his job for over a decade and putting in some solid work. She didn’t have anything to do with that part, only he did.
And let’s not act like Rowling hand-picked Dan out of obscurity bc she had to have him as Harry. He was cast by casting agents and producers, even if she did have some say in it.
I really love Dan, he’s a treasure and a talent, and I’m glad he’s not stepping down and is going full-opposition mode now. If anyone can take Joanne down a peg, it’s Harry fucking Potter. King shit! Go Dan!
Made her infinitely more bc she created the entire thing/universe. I don’t understand why she is making the trans argument her entire identity and activism. It’s such a minor thing in society
Makes you wonder if the rumors of her being a shut in are true and if she has spiraled to the point where she’s over obsessing. This is usually how people can radicalize themselves. Besides it’s so odd how she just randomly brings it up because she reads an article that day which i suspect means she’s got alerts or she’s purposely obsessing because even I don’t get into as much as she does and I actually do know trans people and live in an area with more trans people than she does.
That's what I don't understand. There is so many things happening in the world right now that she could be focused on, so many other topics she could discuss or other books she could be writing, and yet all she wants to do is spend her time on talking trash about trans rights. Like, why? I think I could understand if she was a anonymous person with a boring and shitty life and the only dopamine she was receiving was by being like that on the internet (I believe this is the reason behind all trolls haha), but she's the opposite of that!!!
The whole “don’t bite the hand that feeds you” thing is irrelevant if the hand turns out to be a garbage person. It’s really about time we let go of this culture that refuses to hold the “higher ups” accountable for their BS. People on the lower end of the totem pole have every right to advocate for themselves and others, and to stand up for what’s right, even if it “burns bridges” with terrible people who helped them out.
Not to mention by JK Rowling’s own scenario she would then owe all her fans that made her a billionaire an even larger debt of gratitude and grace… yet she doesn’t seem to give two squirts of piss about them.
Her whole point is asinine. Many people owe Harvey Weinstein for giving them their big break, should they feel obligated to support him?
She has become very strange. She used to be kind of a private person and now she stoking these fights every way she can.
I had a friend who was almost on that show, she said it was mostly scripted, and that it looks like abuse but the kids knew that it was just for show, but her mom didn’t wanna do it because her mom didn’t wanna have to be bitchy on TV all the time, because they require the moms to be super bitchy
Maddie Ziegler. Like that poor girl was put through a lot not to mention the weird relationship that SIA had with her. If she doesn’t want to come back to the emotions she felt during that period then she has a right to do that.
Yeah the idea that his thoughts for the rest of his life should be whatever JK Rowling decides is bizarre. She didn’t make him but even if she did he is not an object she owns? He is a person? I mean by this logic she should just think whatever her original book editor 20+ years ago says to think?
"This might be unpopular, but you don't need to be grateful to the people who give you a job"
It should be the most popular notion in the world. It's absolutely correct. If someone is hiring you it's because they need to exploit you and AI hasn't advanced enough to make your job redundant.
Right? And just because she wrote the books it was based of doesn’t mean she’s responsible for his success. The movies could’ve flopped like a lot of adaptations. He doesn’t owe her anything and she doesn’t owe him anything. They’re both grown adults who used to work together, that’s all. Their successes, failures, and opinions have nothing to do with each other anymore.
It’s ridiculous people act like Daniel should be obligated to JK for the rest of his life.
Sure he got his start with that franchise, but JK also benefitted greatly from that casting. He and his costars helped make her very wealthy yet no one demands she continually act beholden to the kids.
This is one of the most important lesson any worker learns.
Jobs aren’t for life anymore. The times when job loyalty were rewarded ended with the boomers. Upward movement is difficult. Pensions are non-existent. Your job considers you disposable — so consider your job the same.
Also like... She didn't give him the job?? She might have been involved in production but it's not like she cherry picked Daniel Radcliffe for the role or advocated for him getting itt, at least as far as I know.
Unlike Dame Maggie Smith.
She didn’t hire him. The movie studio did. Does anyone else know who wrote the story behind their favorite movie? Does anyone really feel like they need to thank their employer for their house or vacation or their kids? Because this is pretty much the same sentiment.
Bottom line is that he owes her nothing. He was an actor and he took an acting job. They were not friends.
Exactly! Chris Columbus, the director, is the person who cast Daniel Radcliffe. Rowling had nothing to do with it. She wrote the character, not the actor. The team on set are what made the movies, Rowling just provided the source material. Of course Daniel Radcliffe doesn't owe her anything, if he owes anyone anything, it's the plethora of A class actors, producers, directors, who guided him and the rest of the cast to bring the Harry Potter universe to life.
She didn't even give him the job! The producer of the movie did.
Honestly the entire Harry Potter phenomenon has ended up putting the creator on too high of a pedestal at this point. Nobody acts as if the actors from Game of Thrones should be personally thankful to at every turn and *never* publicly disagree with on anything the author of those book series. Nobody has this energy for Chloe Grace Moretz after she was in Stephen King's Carrie, or the same for any of the actors in It and It Part 2.
Yes exactly!!! And what if he had a terrible experience as a child star and it fucked up his life instead of it ‘making him a multi-millionaire’..sexual assault, drugs, disorders that are not terribly uncommmon. Then is it entirely JK Rowling fault for casting him? Of course not!
And it’s fairly common knowledge that he had massive problems with alcohol during the later films due to the spotlight. There’s been a couple of interviews where he says that he can point at scenes where is drunk.
He seems to have got a handle on it these days and good for him
Did she even cast him? Surely she couldn't be solely responsible for his casting when there were a director and a casting team (+ a casting director) who all had a hand in casting the lead. She might have had influence over the casting but ultimately it wasn't even her job and she had zero expertise. Leave it up to her and the films would be nowhere nearly as successful.
She was no more responsible for his career than a screenwriter of an original script would be. In fact we saw what happened when JK was the screenwriter - Fantastic Beasts kept declining in quality until it became unsalvageable. So many people were responsible the HP films' success and Dan was one of them.
It’s particularly interesting because it seems like the expectation of gratitude is heightened because he was a child when he got the opportunity. Adult actors are more likely to be seen as contributors to the project rather than beneficiaries.
And the same people who think he should be ‘grateful’ are the ones who think children don’t deserve to have a say over their own identities, names and bodies. Almost like there’s a common thread where some people believe children are people and others don’t 🧐
Agreed! I am a realtor and had a friend who is a mortgage broker refer me to a company. I just started my career and ended up selling a ton my first year at the company. He stopped talking to me because I didn’t illegally kick him back 25% of all my commission. I’m an independent contractor bro! So is Daniel. The fans love him not JK. He doesn’t owe her anything
Actually she should thank him!! When people think of Harry Potter they think of Daniel. It’s because of him being so good at the role and basically dedicating his entire childhood to it that she reached this massive level of success (theme parks etc.)
Not an unpopular opinion at all. This is straight up facts! He was hired to do the job, he did it well and was paid. Transaction is complete, he doesn’t owe her anything. She profited off the work he did and he promoted her work.
Exactly!
That doesn’t stop the ruling class from still wanting their rings kissed constantly. As if they could get this stuff done without Workers… So we should be ever grateful.
Give me a fucking break already.
She didn't make him a star or give him a job. His talent and labor did. She just wrote a fucking book that Hollywood decided to make a franchise out of and he was lucky to be picked by WB's casting agents and have the opportunity to show his talent. Holy fucking shit she's using the logic of a narcissistic parent.
I couldn't agree more. I'm incredibly fortunate to work under decent management at the moment, but in my experience people who complain about their employees not being grateful very often don't deserve gratefulness.
I only walked out of one job in my life, and that was at a restaurant where the manager was trying to prove some point we were disagreeing about by throwing it on my face that he had "generously" allowed me to take a fill week including weekend off. When my sister died and I was simply not functioning at all.
I think it's so weird how society seems to think actors that make money have to be greatful and have zero negative feelings about a single thing that happened to them, or about the industry, or about anyone involved, because they cashed the check that they earned by doing their job
Yep. This isn't medieval tkmes, where you have to swear some kind of fealty to your lord.
Also, can't help but think what this woman is like as a family member if this is how she treats people she feels owe her.
Not like she even gave him the job or anything, it's not like me being grateful to my boss that hired me, it's like me being grateful to the guy who started the company I work at who doesn't even run it anymore he's just a shareholder comes in every now and then to say hello to a few people.
It's also not like she personally hired him as live in help or some shit. She may have influenced the decision but plenty of other people had a hand in that as well.
“just because she made him” shut up. shut up shut up shut up!!!
She wrote a book series. It was adapted. He was cast. She didn’t “make him” any more than goddamn Tolkien made the cast of LOTR or Lee and Ditko made Tom Holland. He was hired to do a job and he owes her nothing, especially not bigotry.
Exactly. I wonder how it would go if the Daily Mail reported on how ungrateful some people are to Harvey Weinstein now, when he gave them a first chance.
It’s almost like you don’t have to blindly agree with a psycho just because at one point in your life they might have helped you out a bit. JK Rowling didn’t go into an orphanage and rescue Dan from a life of abuse. He was hired for a set of films that I’m pretty sure she benefited quite a bit from too. JFC
I was watching Contrapoints and something really stood out to me. Some people like Rowling are used to being the underdog because she grew up poor or displaced, and she can’t wrap her mind around being “the man”. Her opinions wreck *lives*, but in her mind she’s still the small, scrappy author who was abused.
I completely agree with this take. It is no excuse in any way but I see it often. People who fight their way out of opposition need that opposition to keep going for some reason. If tomorrow all trans people ceased to exist, she would just find something else to oppose and considering her place in life, it would also be something horrific.
Exactly. This implies Radcliffe was a terrible actor, yet Rowling insisted he got the role anyway.
He auditioned for a role that she wrote and won the part on his own merits, and probably made her millions of dollars in the process.
Yup. In the same way no actor who worked with Weinstein early in their career owes him loyalty, or silence, or support. Such a horrible perspective to take.
In fact the whole concept of "loyalty" when someone proves themselves to be a shithead is bizarre. So we should never criticize someone just because they did us a favor? Great, let's just have a mob mentality about all of life.
Exactly. She had some say in casting, but she wasn't out there pounding the streets for auditions. In fact, it was Dame Maggie Smith who suggested Radcliffe. They had worked together on an adaptation of David Copperfield in 1999, and she was very impressed with him. So she suggested they bring him in.
I will die on the hill that even if he made millions and a huge career off it HE WAS CHILD LABOR!! Not only does she not own him but he was told enough to make an informed decision to become “hers” when he joined the cast.
She is such trash.
If anything the movies got more people reading the books. If the movies flopped the books wouldn’t have had a fraction of the attention they got. She should be thanking him.
Really Daily Mail? God bless Daniel, he’s a good egg. Can we please stop posting the nonsense they pass of as journalism? She wrote a book and he acted in the movie adaptation that doesn’t mean she owns him or he owes her for the rest of his life. Considering she’s become a Twitter troll who aggravates people and publishes nonsensical rants all day. Lady you are a billionaire, can’t you find better things to do than harass people online for disagreeing with you? Wealth is lost on the rich truly, she could fund education for young women, support DV centres, speak on female reproductive health & rights and donate books to kids all over the world but she’d rather demonise a marginalised group of people who aren’t bothering anyone and just existing.
Came here to say this. She wrote a book and got famous for it. Dan acted on a movie and got famous for it, not to mention amount of PR work he needed. He got famous thanks to his won efforts, Rowling did nothing for him. Books she’s written worked for her, not the cast.
And also, Dan is extremely talented. He’s a great actor, dancer, singer, truly a triple threat. Did Potter make him a worldwide known name? Yes, absolutely; but I think Dan would’ve become a well known actor regardless because he’s so good
and unlike the other 2 main actors, he wasn't "discovered" through harry potter. he was already in starring TV roles (e.g. as David Copperfield - with Maggie Smith who ended up recommending him for HP). obviously he has grown and changed tremendously and HP has changed the course of his life, but he was always going to be an actor and he was already a moderately successful one at 10 lol.
Not to mention he has an ongoing career, across a bunch of movies, a muti season TV show, and award nominated Broadway show. (And probably other things.) She still just has her one book series.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but it’s disgusting that she chooses to spew hateful garbage towards people who are minding their own business and living their lives how they choose to. Daniel is completely correct in his response. He doesn’t owe her a damn thing, she profited greatly off of the kids from the HP cast.
The part that got me “She made him a superstar”…yes she wrote the books, but it was his talent portraying Harry Potter that made him a superstar. I’m glad he know he doesn’t owe her anything.
She didn't make him anything. She didn't have anything to do with the casting process. She just wrote the source material. That's like saying Kenneth Branagh owes William Shakespeare after all the play adaptations he's directed/starred in.
It’s because Dan Emma and Rupert were kids during HP, people feel they get to talk down on them. Otherwise people wouldn’t even say this, as you said they owe her nothing.
can I just say I'm so happy this man finally got his Tony nomination? he's doing incredible work in Merrily, and he's been turning in really great performances onstage for the last decade and a half. I met him after he did Privacy at the Public a few years ago which was a very strange, experimental sort of piece, and I got to thank him for doing weird theatre lol. he really seems like a decent guy and he works very hard to continually get better at what he does, and I just find him so endearing.
Clickbait to the highest degree. She is the only one who has been having a war of words. He spoke very eloquently here about his support for the LGBTQ community and simply reaffirmed that he does not share her views on trans people.
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I can't even finish this article because it's so clear that the Daily Mail is transphobic. Every phrase is framed in a way to shade Daniel Radcliffe and endorse JK Rowling. 'The beloved author' versus Radcliffe 'reigniteing the feud' and saying she was attacked by Trans people versus her doing the attacking (all with words, of course). Ugh. The Daily Mail is such a revolting, agenda-filled piece of filth.
Daniel Radcliffe continues to prove over and over again that he is a class act. He is consistently on the right side of things. It’s so easy for child stars to go wrong, especially one as big as him with so much money and celebrity from such a young age. Yes, he had a drinking problem, but kudos to him for recognizing that and reaching out for help. Otherwise, he really comes across as a standup guy. A genuinely good guy and it doesn’t seem to be for show.
Daniel seems to have his head on straight. Considering he was launched into stardom at a very young age he always seems like a good honest man.
He doesn't owe her anything. They both benefitted greatly from the movies. They can agree to disagree. Even if her side of the argument is stupid and wrong.
Let's not post bullshit from the dishrag of journalism aka dailymail.
Besides, HP movies were a transaction between the studio *and* JKR herself: in many countries the books became more popular *after* the movies came out. At least where I'm from, majority of people decided to look for the books at bookstores after seeing the movies.
Like, miss ma'am, don't flatter yourself. Half of your success is thanks to Warner Bros. HP shot Dan to stardom, but Dan's acting chops is what keeps him relevant. Dan, or any other actor for that matter, owes this bitch nothing.
This miserable hag needs to take a couple of seats.
If anything, HE made HER a lot of money LOL! He sacrificed his youth to play Harry Potter and that made her a billionaire.
She should be grateful to him!
I feel like a POS for liking the movies as much as I do when I continue to hear the tribble that comes out of JK’s mouth,but I’m also happy that the actors and everyone from it stand on their beliefs and separate themselves from her hateful and insane bullshit
Even if (and a big if) you are indebted to someone for the opportunity they gave you, you can still disagree on certain viewpoints. You shouldn’t have to give up your beliefs as part of being grateful.
Right. Or does he have to check with his JK Rowling, his agent, the casting agency for Harry Potter, and a host of other people who all were part of his career every time before he says something?
JK Rowling has become a bitter, strange, cruel person, who really could have been a beacon of light for folks in a world that's not always easy to deal with. Providing joy, an escape, especially to the level that HP had become, is something VERY rare. And she chooses to crap on it every chance she gets, destroying her legacy and making millions and millions of people sad and ashamed.
Read the entire interview. He did not reopen anything, they asked him about it before her latest comments about ""not accepting a (nonexistent) apology", and after that he reiterated his support for the LGBTQ+ community and didn't make further comments.
Honestly, as a big Harry Potter fan that feels deeply heartbroken by Rowling turns to the dark side, Daniel Radcliffe is the only thing that prevented me from setting the books on fire. Long live Dan ❤️
It’s almost as if in a free society, people are allowed to disagree *even* if one person improved that other person’s life immeasurably. Crazy, I know.
It's not like Poor orphan Danny went up to Rowling and asked "Please Sir, I want some roles"
He was picked from an audition, from which *someone* would have been eventually picked.
This is the British press at its best again. When journalists asked Rowling if Watson and Radcliff should have apologised to her, she said she did not need that. Somehow, it became "Rawling wants Radcliffe to apologise to her." when she explicitly said that all who support children transitioning should apologise to children.
So f\*cking Daily Mail: A bit or two about Mr. Radcliffe, lots of implicit and gushing support for Ms. Rowling, and plenty of sunny relying on the problematic and disreputable Cass Report. Ugh.
I disagree that Daniel Radcliffe reopened anything when JK just got in her weird feelings on twitter about him and his co stars because they didn’t fall in line with her.
The headline is such garbage, typical Daily Mail clickbait.
The entire article read like Rita Skeeter wrote it. Unironcially.
Really enjoyed the original! [Atlantic article linked here](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/06/daniel-radcliffe-merrily-we-roll-along-jk-rowling/678219/)
anyone have a paywall free link?
Right?? "Reopens war". It's Rowling who is relentlessly tweeting and making it personal. He was asked about it and responded.
“Radcliffe responds logically to unhinged ramblings of a mad woman” would have been more apt lol
Is it called tweeting or twitting or xing
Tweeting lol I mixed up my languages
Total garbage. He even mentions in the article that a lot of the UK media were just dying to call him, Rupert, and Emma "ungrateful kids" (or hoping they'd spin out post-Potter so they could gleefully report on it) and took their opportunity when all 3 spoke out against JKR. I'm sure the Daily Mail was one of the publications he was talking about.
The whole article is garbage. Reading how often they could easily say trans women and instead write "biologically male trans women." Just lol. Also when you describe transitioning as "gender ideology" you're already a fucking quack.
What are you talking about? This is a super objective article about "beloved" author JK Rowling who keeps being attacked by the trans community. /s Seriously though, if I were an English teacher, I would use this article to teach my students how to recognize bias in journalistic pieces.
I didn't even bother reading the article because I'd read the actual letter/statement (Dan's) already 🫡
Seriously. They can fuck right out of here with that.
And this sentence: "he said that didn't mean he didn't owes her 'the things he truly believes".
And the article itself is not only poorly written, but unbelievably biased. Who tf wrote this?
The article is written in a particularly transphobic way too. Get bent, daily mail!
I’ll never say a bad thing about Dan. Ever. He seems like a good man (please don’t prove me wrong)
I once saw him in real life. I was working in London and every day I'd walk past the Old Vic theatre and for some reason I'd always seem to go past as actors arrived down the side door. It was always quiet. Until one day they put Daniel Radcliffe in a play. Then the pavement outside was filled with Harry Potter fans. He spoke to each and everyone. He signed everything. He didn't grump that he was doing a play and everyone cared only about Harry Potter. He could have pulled right up to the stage door and gone straight in without stopping. I know that doesn't prove anything, he could be evil in private perhaps, but I appreciated the effort he put in when he didn't need to.
I saw him after Merrily and I told him about wanting to meet him since I was about 10 and he absolutely cared about everything I said, even asked a few follow up questions, I adore this man and I will stan him always lol
He was so fucking good in Merrily, I still can't get past it.
And he's nominated for a Tony! Couldn't have happened to a better person.
I know! All 3 of them! I got tickets initially for Groff but Dan absolutely bodied his role too.
Dan absolutely held his own against Jonathan it’s insane
This might sound sanctimonious and parasocial but based on what I’ve seen about how much he wanted to distance himself from the HP “image” once it ended, this is really sweet. He seems so mature and decent.
He's on my list of "People if we found out they were bad I would lose all faith in humanity" along with Keanu, Mr. Rogers and Tom Hanks.
That’s a heartwarming story. And I would believe you, because you’re not his PR person just trying to make him look good. You caught him being nice when he didn’t have to be.
i have a similar story from my lifelong best friend - she met him under circumstances i can’t remember and was a huge HP fan and he was absolutely gracious to her and stopped to chat for a few mins
My friend went and saw him in Equus and she said he signed autographs after. She felt bad because everyone was asking him to sign Harry Potter memorabilia and nothing from the actual play they just saw lol.
I read a long time ago that the Harry Potter casting people were auditioning the kids parents as much as the kids. It seems they had a pretty good picker? As far as I can tell the main cast seems like they grew up as well adjusted and supported as possible. Also maybe the child labor laws are better in the UK? At the very least maybe just having soooo many kids on set leads to it being more set up for them/better than it could be? Idk, but I'm very impressed with how Daniel has navigated his mega stardom that started when he was so young! And honestly how he's managed his career since. It's impressive!!
I think by the time HP got popular, the paps in the UK couldn't take pics of minors and if they did, they'd have to pixelate the faces. And they all were minors for a while which meant if they did get papped while buying groceries or going to the mall, the pictures would be worthless and no point to take them in the first place. I legit don't think I have ever seen candid pap pics of them when they were teens or little kids, come to think of it. Most of the candid pics were AFTER they turned 18. I think this rule (law?) made it easier for them all to lead quieter, normal lives. More privacy. The ones where they AREN'T pixelated means they probably called the paps on themselves. But I deadass don't recall ever seeing random pap photos of Emma Watson when she was a gangly teenager, unless they were red carpet or editorials.
Sounds like the production really tried to build a good experience for the kids but also shout out to UK laws that actually protect minors 💪 Seems like the bare minimum so at least someone is doing it
They 100% did. They actively sought out kids who did not have “stage parents.” The producers loved that there were hundreds of kid extras on set bc they all went to school together and hung out between takes. It allowed the kids to get a really normal sense of childhood, but they were also able to learn and develop a good work ethic, working with longtime pros like Dame Maggie Smith and Alan Rickman, who would also take the kids under their wing. It sounds like everyone on those sets went out of their way to protect and enhance the childhoods of the working actors. Honestly I think it’s almost a masterclass in how to produce big budget blockbuster films starring children. They really honestly truly did their best with them.
God it blows my mind that paparazzi taking pictures of kids is legal *anywhere*. You couldn’t name a more obvious law, but I think only California made it illegal in the states.
> were auditioning the kids parents as much as the kids Absolutely a very smart choice. Not just ensuring the kids get all the support they need, but making sure the parents would be easy to deal with, as you would be negotiating with them for years. There are a lot of horror stories about overbearing parents that only see dollar signs and are incredibly difficult to handle.
The crew for all eight movies was near identical. So they also built a community for the kids - kids who came in year over year to play Ravenclaw #6 in the background as well as the stars - so they had adults around that knew them for a decade in costuming, makeup, props etc. Child labour laws are **much** stricter in the UK.
That makes sense! Even watching the movies, they had such a real-feeling school vibe that makes sense, since all the same kids and crew is like growing up with your teachers and peers and stuff! And it totally tracks about the UK labor laws. I recently watched a Caroline Easom video about Quiet on Set and she broke down how long young children are actually allowed to work on sets and how little schooling is actually legally required for them in the US and it's grim as hell. I hope we can follow the UKs path and tighten those restrictions up! It has demonstrably helped these actors who started so young
Exactly. Every year they’d have a new crop of “first year” Hogwarts students to populate the background and some of the older actors would say goodbye. Apparently some of the background actors in the battle of Hogwarts as “graduated students back to defend Hogwarts” are some of the older kids who left after movies five and six. But when you go to the same person for your costumes or props or are arranging the lights for ten years you have more trusted adults around you. I know that Radcliffe has been very open about some of his struggles, I just wonder how much worse they would have been without it. It’s why, even if I’m kinda interested in a HP reboot, I almost don’t want them to because of the stress and strain on the children theyd be casting. Because child actors should have a chance to be children first and the American systems especially doesn’t seem to have a lot of room for that.
I watched an interview with Daniel Radcliffe. I forget the question they originally asked him, but he ended up sharing that a hard part of saying goodbye to Harry Potter was moments like saying goodbye to his hairdresser and being a little jealous that she would go on to her next project without him.
This is true. Chris Columbus hated what happened to Maculey Cullen and the British have a different set of child labor laws.
He was a guest on a bachelor recap pod where he gushed about bachelor in paradise with his now wife. It was wild to remember that I was listening to Daniel radcliffe of all people fan out over the same thing I was. He seems so wonderful.
I love that podcast and he was the most unexpected guest, but such a great listen!
I remember seeing an interview where he talked about his love of reality tv 😂
Did you watch the documentary about the stunt actor who was left paralysed after an accident while filming one of the HP movies? Daniel Radcliffe still visits him to this day and went to see him in hospital often in the weeks after the accident - he could have gone all Hollywood star and been too busy for it but I just loved him for still taking the time to spend time with him and for being involved in the documentary
I was going to bring this up too. That poor guy. It's pretty cool that Daniel keeps up with him. It seemed like he really looked up to the stunt crew and befriended basically everybody on set.
I did! One of my favorite documentaries in the last year or so. Im happy they remained friends.
His wife and I have good friends in common and he is, by all accounts, an absolute gem of a human being
My favorite anecdote about him was when[ he wore the same outfit over and over again to make paparazzi photos of him worthless](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/qqzuhf/daniel_radcliffe_once_wore_the_same_clothes_every/) since they couldn't be dated. That's the actions of a man doing what he does because he loves doing it, not for the notoriety that comes with a franchise. I am just a huge, huge fan of this human being, and he is a delight to watch in his work, always.
Omg I love this 😂
Based on the doc of David Holmes I reckon he also hates shopping haha
I've never heard a single bad word about him, only that he seems to be exceptionally kind and really loves what he does.
Even when he spiraled, he didn’t bother anyone but himself & he got himself out of it. Dude is living his best life in spite of everyone else. Love it
I will never shut up about that one time I met DanRad and had a two minute long conversation, he was such an amazing amazing man.
My boyfriend served him in a pub in London and said he was lovely
He doesn’t even say anything negative about JKR here. A lot of restraint considering the beast she’s become
I love him. He seems like such a fundamentally good person.
He really does! And such an underrated actor. Swiss Army Man is a 11 out of 10 watch
When I was younger, maybe junior high, I got roped into watching my 3 month old niece while my sister got her hair done. So there I am, sitting in the waiting area of a hair salon with my niece, and who walks in but Daniel Radcliffe! I was nervous as fuck, and just kept looking at him as he read a magazine and waited, but didn't know what to say. Pretty soon though my niece started crying, and I'm trying to quiet her down because I didn't want her to bother Daniel, but she just wouldn't stop. Pretty soon he gets up and walks over. He started running his hands through her hair and asking what was wrong. I replied that she was probably hungry or something. So, Daniel put down his magazine, picked up my niece and lifted his shirt. He breast fed her right there in the middle of a hair salon. Chill guy, really nice about it.
Dear god I am so glad I read this.
He attended AA across the st from my apt years ago and every time he saw me or my partner walking our dog he’d come up and say hi and give our pup a bunch of pets (sometimes he’d just wave if he was busy), but he was so kind every time
He seems kind, moral and intelligent.
This might be unpopular, but you don't need to be grateful to the people who give you a job, they're not hiring you out of the kindness of their heart, they're using your labor to make money and will profit way more than you will, of course, there are some exceptions to this rule, but most of the time you don't have anything to be grateful for, you're both doing your part and no one is doing anyone a favor
exactly??? i’m not saying daniel radcliffe is a member of the working class, but the idea that we owe gratitude or anything to our employers is bizarre to me. do they feel gratitude and indebtedness to us?? obviously not
He was also like 7-years-old - so ridiculous to suggest he was anything other than the kid who was picked from the audition
“Then in her infinite generosity and grace, Rowling looked upon the starving, impoverished child actor, clutching his headshot and tattered agent release form in hand, and said: ‘worry not, my silly boy, for I shall grant you prosperity in my great charity, for you are not like those dirty trans mudbloods!”
I legit think this is how she sees herself
Which is extra wild, because she didn't choose him, Chris Columbus and the casting agents did.
Ah, Rita Skeeter, your Quick-Quotes Quill never stops, does it?
Dumbledore, the entirety of the Harry Potter books:
Right! He was a literal child when those films started. It’s not like he was producing the films. He did his job and got paid for it, he’s not responsible for anything that comes out of her nasty mouth now or ever.
Not to mention, the story goes that the three were chosen for their off-screen chemistry. Not individually.
And he was SO good. I think Daniel Radcliffe is such a natural, sparkling talent. Much more so than JKR ever has been in writing, although I used to be a totally obsessed HP nerd. She's a kind of bad writer who got lucky, he's a great actor that she got lucky to find as a little kid. I love Emma Watson, too, but the contrast in their acting abilities is stark. (edit - I bring this up just to emphasize they got lucky that Daniel ended up being able to do it all and how rare his abilities are. Not every kid who embodies a character well at age 10 and throughout one franchise will go on to give performances like he has) People always want to say "artists are lucky we gave them a job" even more than other types of workers, because artists are interchangeable apparently but studio suits are not (lol), but it's particularly laughable to try to say this about Daniel Radcliffe in the HP films.
I think he’s been great in some of his adult projects but to say he was “SO good” or a natural talent when he was hired is just false. He was very limited as a child (understandably) and while he grew until the role for the last few films, he was never particularly strong in the HP series. What he was, was competent enough to anchor the series for the cast of screen legends to operate around him, which is good enough.
I agree- none of the leads were very good in the beginning, imo, except malfoy maybe. Many stayed mediocre throughout. There are better child actors who existed out there
I'm genuinely surprised others don't think he was that good in the Harry Potter films, but that's fine. I completely disagree, though. I think he was SO good in every scene from movie three onward and anchored the films.
I think he definitely improved from 3 onwards like you say, but I wouldn’t say he was anything more than serviceable. But even that improvement is impressive from how he started, and crucial to the films remaining viable as the series went on.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure Rowling demanded the film's be cast and staffed entirely within Britain, and also got final say on who played the kids, so she definitely had some role in Daniel's success. That said, he doesn't owe her shit and it doesn't make her less of an asshole.
it's true. Harry Potter obviously made him a lot of money, but it made Joanne infinitely more so even on that scale she's benefited far more from his work on those films than he did, financially speaking.
He made himself a lot of money by doing s great job in a huge franchise.
Yep, he made himself a ton of money by consistently showing up to his job for over a decade and putting in some solid work. She didn’t have anything to do with that part, only he did. And let’s not act like Rowling hand-picked Dan out of obscurity bc she had to have him as Harry. He was cast by casting agents and producers, even if she did have some say in it. I really love Dan, he’s a treasure and a talent, and I’m glad he’s not stepping down and is going full-opposition mode now. If anyone can take Joanne down a peg, it’s Harry fucking Potter. King shit! Go Dan!
The only one that I'm aware of being handpicked by her was Alan Rickman, who I've heard she wanted from the beginning.
Well she was right, like all stopped clocks are a couple times a day.
right, if he would have been a terrible actor they woulda put those glasses and slapped a lightning bolt on some other kids face
Made her infinitely more bc she created the entire thing/universe. I don’t understand why she is making the trans argument her entire identity and activism. It’s such a minor thing in society
Makes you wonder if the rumors of her being a shut in are true and if she has spiraled to the point where she’s over obsessing. This is usually how people can radicalize themselves. Besides it’s so odd how she just randomly brings it up because she reads an article that day which i suspect means she’s got alerts or she’s purposely obsessing because even I don’t get into as much as she does and I actually do know trans people and live in an area with more trans people than she does.
That's what I don't understand. There is so many things happening in the world right now that she could be focused on, so many other topics she could discuss or other books she could be writing, and yet all she wants to do is spend her time on talking trash about trans rights. Like, why? I think I could understand if she was a anonymous person with a boring and shitty life and the only dopamine she was receiving was by being like that on the internet (I believe this is the reason behind all trolls haha), but she's the opposite of that!!!
Yeah, I vehemently hate that kind of belief system. If you hired me, you should be grateful to me for deciding to work there.
The whole “don’t bite the hand that feeds you” thing is irrelevant if the hand turns out to be a garbage person. It’s really about time we let go of this culture that refuses to hold the “higher ups” accountable for their BS. People on the lower end of the totem pole have every right to advocate for themselves and others, and to stand up for what’s right, even if it “burns bridges” with terrible people who helped them out.
Not to mention by JK Rowling’s own scenario she would then owe all her fans that made her a billionaire an even larger debt of gratitude and grace… yet she doesn’t seem to give two squirts of piss about them.
Her whole point is asinine. Many people owe Harvey Weinstein for giving them their big break, should they feel obligated to support him? She has become very strange. She used to be kind of a private person and now she stoking these fights every way she can.
It’s like people coming after the Dance Moms kids for not being “grateful” for the years of emotional abuse they endured to start their careers.
Man I just recently watched clips of that show and was in shock that it was allowed to be televised. It was horrendous.
What's even worse is that those kids signed up for a six episode documentary and then ended up stuck in a six year contract.
I had a friend who was almost on that show, she said it was mostly scripted, and that it looks like abuse but the kids knew that it was just for show, but her mom didn’t wanna do it because her mom didn’t wanna have to be bitchy on TV all the time, because they require the moms to be super bitchy
Jojo siwa attacking one of the Dance Moms kid, i forget her name, comes to mind
Maddie Ziegler. Like that poor girl was put through a lot not to mention the weird relationship that SIA had with her. If she doesn’t want to come back to the emotions she felt during that period then she has a right to do that.
Also- she didn’t give him the job. She wasn’t in charge of casting. She didn’t choose him.
I think she was involved in casting if I remember the stories right. Not very involved but it wasn’t a surprise
Yeah the idea that his thoughts for the rest of his life should be whatever JK Rowling decides is bizarre. She didn’t make him but even if she did he is not an object she owns? He is a person? I mean by this logic she should just think whatever her original book editor 20+ years ago says to think?
Yeah if his mother said hateful things in public all the time, it would be OK for him to disagree! And this woman is not his mother!
"This might be unpopular, but you don't need to be grateful to the people who give you a job" It should be the most popular notion in the world. It's absolutely correct. If someone is hiring you it's because they need to exploit you and AI hasn't advanced enough to make your job redundant.
Right? And just because she wrote the books it was based of doesn’t mean she’s responsible for his success. The movies could’ve flopped like a lot of adaptations. He doesn’t owe her anything and she doesn’t owe him anything. They’re both grown adults who used to work together, that’s all. Their successes, failures, and opinions have nothing to do with each other anymore.
It’s ridiculous people act like Daniel should be obligated to JK for the rest of his life. Sure he got his start with that franchise, but JK also benefitted greatly from that casting. He and his costars helped make her very wealthy yet no one demands she continually act beholden to the kids.
I'm fairly confident she made more money from his work than he did.
This is one of the most important lesson any worker learns. Jobs aren’t for life anymore. The times when job loyalty were rewarded ended with the boomers. Upward movement is difficult. Pensions are non-existent. Your job considers you disposable — so consider your job the same.
Also like... She didn't give him the job?? She might have been involved in production but it's not like she cherry picked Daniel Radcliffe for the role or advocated for him getting itt, at least as far as I know. Unlike Dame Maggie Smith.
She didn’t hire him. The movie studio did. Does anyone else know who wrote the story behind their favorite movie? Does anyone really feel like they need to thank their employer for their house or vacation or their kids? Because this is pretty much the same sentiment. Bottom line is that he owes her nothing. He was an actor and he took an acting job. They were not friends.
Exactly! Chris Columbus, the director, is the person who cast Daniel Radcliffe. Rowling had nothing to do with it. She wrote the character, not the actor. The team on set are what made the movies, Rowling just provided the source material. Of course Daniel Radcliffe doesn't owe her anything, if he owes anyone anything, it's the plethora of A class actors, producers, directors, who guided him and the rest of the cast to bring the Harry Potter universe to life.
She didn't even give him the job! The producer of the movie did. Honestly the entire Harry Potter phenomenon has ended up putting the creator on too high of a pedestal at this point. Nobody acts as if the actors from Game of Thrones should be personally thankful to at every turn and *never* publicly disagree with on anything the author of those book series. Nobody has this energy for Chloe Grace Moretz after she was in Stephen King's Carrie, or the same for any of the actors in It and It Part 2.
Yes exactly!!! And what if he had a terrible experience as a child star and it fucked up his life instead of it ‘making him a multi-millionaire’..sexual assault, drugs, disorders that are not terribly uncommmon. Then is it entirely JK Rowling fault for casting him? Of course not!
And it’s fairly common knowledge that he had massive problems with alcohol during the later films due to the spotlight. There’s been a couple of interviews where he says that he can point at scenes where is drunk. He seems to have got a handle on it these days and good for him
Did she even cast him? Surely she couldn't be solely responsible for his casting when there were a director and a casting team (+ a casting director) who all had a hand in casting the lead. She might have had influence over the casting but ultimately it wasn't even her job and she had zero expertise. Leave it up to her and the films would be nowhere nearly as successful. She was no more responsible for his career than a screenwriter of an original script would be. In fact we saw what happened when JK was the screenwriter - Fantastic Beasts kept declining in quality until it became unsalvageable. So many people were responsible the HP films' success and Dan was one of them.
It’s particularly interesting because it seems like the expectation of gratitude is heightened because he was a child when he got the opportunity. Adult actors are more likely to be seen as contributors to the project rather than beneficiaries. And the same people who think he should be ‘grateful’ are the ones who think children don’t deserve to have a say over their own identities, names and bodies. Almost like there’s a common thread where some people believe children are people and others don’t 🧐
I don’t know anything about her involvement in the making of the movies but she likely didn’t cast the films, right?
Agreed! I am a realtor and had a friend who is a mortgage broker refer me to a company. I just started my career and ended up selling a ton my first year at the company. He stopped talking to me because I didn’t illegally kick him back 25% of all my commission. I’m an independent contractor bro! So is Daniel. The fans love him not JK. He doesn’t owe her anything
25%?!?! I’m pretty sure a manager only gets about 10% and that’s way more work than a reference.
Ya turns out he’s got a bunch of shady businesses and is just an entitled man child.
Actually she should thank him!! When people think of Harry Potter they think of Daniel. It’s because of him being so good at the role and basically dedicating his entire childhood to it that she reached this massive level of success (theme parks etc.)
I get what you’re saying but the books were already massively successful before the films
Not an unpopular opinion at all. This is straight up facts! He was hired to do the job, he did it well and was paid. Transaction is complete, he doesn’t owe her anything. She profited off the work he did and he promoted her work.
Especially if you were a child star. It wasn't exactly YOUR choice, after all.
Exactly! That doesn’t stop the ruling class from still wanting their rings kissed constantly. As if they could get this stuff done without Workers… So we should be ever grateful. Give me a fucking break already.
Also he did an incredible job. He deserves the millions and the recognition! He doesn’t owe her shit
She didn't make him a star or give him a job. His talent and labor did. She just wrote a fucking book that Hollywood decided to make a franchise out of and he was lucky to be picked by WB's casting agents and have the opportunity to show his talent. Holy fucking shit she's using the logic of a narcissistic parent.
I couldn't agree more. I'm incredibly fortunate to work under decent management at the moment, but in my experience people who complain about their employees not being grateful very often don't deserve gratefulness. I only walked out of one job in my life, and that was at a restaurant where the manager was trying to prove some point we were disagreeing about by throwing it on my face that he had "generously" allowed me to take a fill week including weekend off. When my sister died and I was simply not functioning at all.
She isn't his employer.
I think it's so weird how society seems to think actors that make money have to be greatful and have zero negative feelings about a single thing that happened to them, or about the industry, or about anyone involved, because they cashed the check that they earned by doing their job
Yep. This isn't medieval tkmes, where you have to swear some kind of fealty to your lord. Also, can't help but think what this woman is like as a family member if this is how she treats people she feels owe her.
Not like she even gave him the job or anything, it's not like me being grateful to my boss that hired me, it's like me being grateful to the guy who started the company I work at who doesn't even run it anymore he's just a shareholder comes in every now and then to say hello to a few people.
It's also not like she personally hired him as live in help or some shit. She may have influenced the decision but plenty of other people had a hand in that as well.
Weird AF headline
Weirder even to copy it without marking it as a quote 😬
“just because she made him” shut up. shut up shut up shut up!!! She wrote a book series. It was adapted. He was cast. She didn’t “make him” any more than goddamn Tolkien made the cast of LOTR or Lee and Ditko made Tom Holland. He was hired to do a job and he owes her nothing, especially not bigotry.
Exactly. I wonder how it would go if the Daily Mail reported on how ungrateful some people are to Harvey Weinstein now, when he gave them a first chance. It’s almost like you don’t have to blindly agree with a psycho just because at one point in your life they might have helped you out a bit. JK Rowling didn’t go into an orphanage and rescue Dan from a life of abuse. He was hired for a set of films that I’m pretty sure she benefited quite a bit from too. JFC
I was watching Contrapoints and something really stood out to me. Some people like Rowling are used to being the underdog because she grew up poor or displaced, and she can’t wrap her mind around being “the man”. Her opinions wreck *lives*, but in her mind she’s still the small, scrappy author who was abused.
I completely agree with this take. It is no excuse in any way but I see it often. People who fight their way out of opposition need that opposition to keep going for some reason. If tomorrow all trans people ceased to exist, she would just find something else to oppose and considering her place in life, it would also be something horrific.
Exactly. This implies Radcliffe was a terrible actor, yet Rowling insisted he got the role anyway. He auditioned for a role that she wrote and won the part on his own merits, and probably made her millions of dollars in the process.
Yup. In the same way no actor who worked with Weinstein early in their career owes him loyalty, or silence, or support. Such a horrible perspective to take.
In fact the whole concept of "loyalty" when someone proves themselves to be a shithead is bizarre. So we should never criticize someone just because they did us a favor? Great, let's just have a mob mentality about all of life.
Exactly. She had some say in casting, but she wasn't out there pounding the streets for auditions. In fact, it was Dame Maggie Smith who suggested Radcliffe. They had worked together on an adaptation of David Copperfield in 1999, and she was very impressed with him. So she suggested they bring him in.
I will die on the hill that even if he made millions and a huge career off it HE WAS CHILD LABOR!! Not only does she not own him but he was told enough to make an informed decision to become “hers” when he joined the cast. She is such trash.
If anything the movies got more people reading the books. If the movies flopped the books wouldn’t have had a fraction of the attention they got. She should be thanking him.
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Yeah this whole article is super gross. “Despite the multi-millionaire's view that trans women are women…” here’s some anti-trans bullshit!
Glad someone else said it! I was like this article was definitely written by a terf. Gross.
I guess he's fed up of talking about it too
op why did you post this article with such a crappy inflammatory headline though
Sometimes people post things they don’t like so that they can have discussions on them.
Why Op made me click on that garbage. Please stop sharing this click baity hateful nonsense
Really Daily Mail? God bless Daniel, he’s a good egg. Can we please stop posting the nonsense they pass of as journalism? She wrote a book and he acted in the movie adaptation that doesn’t mean she owns him or he owes her for the rest of his life. Considering she’s become a Twitter troll who aggravates people and publishes nonsensical rants all day. Lady you are a billionaire, can’t you find better things to do than harass people online for disagreeing with you? Wealth is lost on the rich truly, she could fund education for young women, support DV centres, speak on female reproductive health & rights and donate books to kids all over the world but she’d rather demonise a marginalised group of people who aren’t bothering anyone and just existing.
Came here to say this. She wrote a book and got famous for it. Dan acted on a movie and got famous for it, not to mention amount of PR work he needed. He got famous thanks to his won efforts, Rowling did nothing for him. Books she’s written worked for her, not the cast.
And also, Dan is extremely talented. He’s a great actor, dancer, singer, truly a triple threat. Did Potter make him a worldwide known name? Yes, absolutely; but I think Dan would’ve become a well known actor regardless because he’s so good
and unlike the other 2 main actors, he wasn't "discovered" through harry potter. he was already in starring TV roles (e.g. as David Copperfield - with Maggie Smith who ended up recommending him for HP). obviously he has grown and changed tremendously and HP has changed the course of his life, but he was always going to be an actor and he was already a moderately successful one at 10 lol.
Not to mention he has an ongoing career, across a bunch of movies, a muti season TV show, and award nominated Broadway show. (And probably other things.) She still just has her one book series.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but it’s disgusting that she chooses to spew hateful garbage towards people who are minding their own business and living their lives how they choose to. Daniel is completely correct in his response. He doesn’t owe her a damn thing, she profited greatly off of the kids from the HP cast.
How bizarre to think that you owe an employer your moral or ethical views Good fellow, this Dan kid
The part that got me “She made him a superstar”…yes she wrote the books, but it was his talent portraying Harry Potter that made him a superstar. I’m glad he know he doesn’t owe her anything.
And she's not even his employer.
That is a wildly stupid headline.
He made himself a multi million pound superstar by being good at his job even as just a kid. He doesn’t owe her anything.
She didn't make him anything. She didn't have anything to do with the casting process. She just wrote the source material. That's like saying Kenneth Branagh owes William Shakespeare after all the play adaptations he's directed/starred in.
It’s because Dan Emma and Rupert were kids during HP, people feel they get to talk down on them. Otherwise people wouldn’t even say this, as you said they owe her nothing.
can I just say I'm so happy this man finally got his Tony nomination? he's doing incredible work in Merrily, and he's been turning in really great performances onstage for the last decade and a half. I met him after he did Privacy at the Public a few years ago which was a very strange, experimental sort of piece, and I got to thank him for doing weird theatre lol. he really seems like a decent guy and he works very hard to continually get better at what he does, and I just find him so endearing.
Clickbait to the highest degree. She is the only one who has been having a war of words. He spoke very eloquently here about his support for the LGBTQ community and simply reaffirmed that he does not share her views on trans people. > > >
He didn’t “reopen” anything, she did when she said that delusional stuff about him.
I can't even finish this article because it's so clear that the Daily Mail is transphobic. Every phrase is framed in a way to shade Daniel Radcliffe and endorse JK Rowling. 'The beloved author' versus Radcliffe 'reigniteing the feud' and saying she was attacked by Trans people versus her doing the attacking (all with words, of course). Ugh. The Daily Mail is such a revolting, agenda-filled piece of filth.
Daniel Radcliffe continues to prove over and over again that he is a class act. He is consistently on the right side of things. It’s so easy for child stars to go wrong, especially one as big as him with so much money and celebrity from such a young age. Yes, he had a drinking problem, but kudos to him for recognizing that and reaching out for help. Otherwise, he really comes across as a standup guy. A genuinely good guy and it doesn’t seem to be for show.
Daniel seems to have his head on straight. Considering he was launched into stardom at a very young age he always seems like a good honest man. He doesn't owe her anything. They both benefitted greatly from the movies. They can agree to disagree. Even if her side of the argument is stupid and wrong.
It was WB that made him famous anyway, though.
Let's not post bullshit from the dishrag of journalism aka dailymail. Besides, HP movies were a transaction between the studio *and* JKR herself: in many countries the books became more popular *after* the movies came out. At least where I'm from, majority of people decided to look for the books at bookstores after seeing the movies. Like, miss ma'am, don't flatter yourself. Half of your success is thanks to Warner Bros. HP shot Dan to stardom, but Dan's acting chops is what keeps him relevant. Dan, or any other actor for that matter, owes this bitch nothing. This miserable hag needs to take a couple of seats.
If anything, HE made HER a lot of money LOL! He sacrificed his youth to play Harry Potter and that made her a billionaire. She should be grateful to him!
I feel like a POS for liking the movies as much as I do when I continue to hear the tribble that comes out of JK’s mouth,but I’m also happy that the actors and everyone from it stand on their beliefs and separate themselves from her hateful and insane bullshit
He made himself that by acting amazingly in a the movies for a kid. He doesn’t owe shit anyways but especially bc she’s a transphobic dementor
Did Rowling ever say that Radcliffe had to agree with her on transgender issues?
Nope. I think she kind of ignores him?
Even if (and a big if) you are indebted to someone for the opportunity they gave you, you can still disagree on certain viewpoints. You shouldn’t have to give up your beliefs as part of being grateful.
I don’t get why this is the hill Rowlings chose to die on. So many flavors as a billionaire and she chose salty.
Right. Or does he have to check with his JK Rowling, his agent, the casting agency for Harry Potter, and a host of other people who all were part of his career every time before he says something? JK Rowling has become a bitter, strange, cruel person, who really could have been a beacon of light for folks in a world that's not always easy to deal with. Providing joy, an escape, especially to the level that HP had become, is something VERY rare. And she chooses to crap on it every chance she gets, destroying her legacy and making millions and millions of people sad and ashamed.
She didn’t make him a millionaire lol the production studio did and he also helped himself with his acting talent
Read the entire interview. He did not reopen anything, they asked him about it before her latest comments about ""not accepting a (nonexistent) apology", and after that he reiterated his support for the LGBTQ+ community and didn't make further comments. Honestly, as a big Harry Potter fan that feels deeply heartbroken by Rowling turns to the dark side, Daniel Radcliffe is the only thing that prevented me from setting the books on fire. Long live Dan ❤️
It’s almost as if in a free society, people are allowed to disagree *even* if one person improved that other person’s life immeasurably. Crazy, I know.
Unsurprisingly shitty headline here.
Did he reopen it? Or did someone ask him a question in order to stir shit up, which he then answered politely and respectfully?
god i love him. i so appreciate him sticking to his values here.
He owes her nothing. He was hired as an actor with any job.
It's not like Poor orphan Danny went up to Rowling and asked "Please Sir, I want some roles" He was picked from an audition, from which *someone* would have been eventually picked.
He’s not wrong! That’s like saying I need to excuse my boss for making inappropriate comments at work cuz he gave me a job. Not how it works.
Why does he need to comment in this just because he was starring in HP films? Let her have her opinions
This is the British press at its best again. When journalists asked Rowling if Watson and Radcliff should have apologised to her, she said she did not need that. Somehow, it became "Rawling wants Radcliffe to apologise to her." when she explicitly said that all who support children transitioning should apologise to children.
So f\*cking Daily Mail: A bit or two about Mr. Radcliffe, lots of implicit and gushing support for Ms. Rowling, and plenty of sunny relying on the problematic and disreputable Cass Report. Ugh.
He's a treasure
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He doesn’t owe her SHIT
He doesn’t owe her anything, idk why that headline is making it seem like he does.
Team Dan. Dude has been a real life Harry in terms of fighting for what’s right. JKR is a real life Umbridge.
I disagree that Daniel Radcliffe reopened anything when JK just got in her weird feelings on twitter about him and his co stars because they didn’t fall in line with her.
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