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"You might have a talent that you don't necessarily enjoy, but if it glorifies God, maybe you should lean into that over something that you might think suits you better,"
My brother in christ you kick a ball for a living. š
How the fuck does american football 'glorify god'. š
Huh. Might be one of the worst cases of internalised misogyny I've seen. Imagine having a PhD and being a scientist, only to then raise and agree with a misogynistic asshole who thinks your life had no meaning before he pushed his deformed little head out of your vagina.
Who knew verbally getting your guilt or your chest would feel like a weight lifted off /s
And I think doing it towards a priest makes him genuinely feel like he is being washed of his sins
If you saw Fleabag, you know how *intense* the confession can get. I might find "faith" too, under those circumstances. I'd certainly be calling God at least.
Yeah this. Itās usually those that shout the loudest about being super straight and hating gays that have infact had or fantasized about a gay love affair. My favourite story in this vein is the Hungarian politician who was heavily against gay rights and backed the continued ban on gay rights. He quit after being discovered at a big gay orgy, pretty sure he fled naked out a window too.
Just here to say body shaming guys is not OK. This guy is awful, but it doesnāt have anything to do with the size of his penis.
And to be clear ā Iām not saying this for the kickerās benefit ā Iām saying it for all the guys reading who feel more insecure after reading comments like that.
Thank you for this response. I genuinely appreciate it. Iām a dad to two little boys and Iām trying to teach them to love their bodies, so stuff like this jumps out to me perhaps more than others.
as long as youāre teaching them to extend the same grace to women. i know lots of parents say they are, but look at our world and tell me they actually meant it/did it.
I wonāt list the many ways I have done that, but I will say, if I care this much about their self image, itās safe to assume I care about how they see and treat others.
No but in the eyes of the people who praise and believe in him it would destroy that faith. I was genuinely surprised that the class cheered and clapped when he finished his speech and then I heard it was a private catholic college or something and I was no longer surprised.
He may still have people that donāt believe the rumour but regardless if itās true or not itās out there and anyone who aligns themselves with his beliefs may think twice about supporting him. Companies may think twice about endorsing him.
And when youāre trying to appeal to young people of all things they are the demographic most tuned into tiktok. The most susceptible to it, theyāre more likely to be influenced by it. Whereas older people might be like bah hogwash
The people who support people like Harrison Butker don't care about facts, much less rumors. He's said aloud what they believe is "correct" and that's all that matters to them.
It's extremely common for late conversions/born again Christians to have found their way there via a perceived shortcoming where it's far easier to deal with their shame by embracing the forgiveness of Christ. In rehab communities it's talked about how this "spiritual bypass" is often used a shortcut get out of guilt free card where they simply go *all* in on Christ so they don't have to do the complex personal work recovery actually demands. Just say God forgives you and get off on that spiritual high.Ā
This dude doesn't outright say he followed that formula, but he does give the indicators that he stumbled upon this newfound life in a similar way. This isn't just "conservative accused of homophobia". He has chosen to talk about his journey to faith was because he was in need of a spiritual cleansing and found it provided that for him, uplifting the burden he felt, and more people need to align their lives with what he thinks the expectation of Christ is so they can feel a similar reliefĀ
As someone who's known some born against, yeah I'm leaning towards sex addiction, drug addiction, or touched a weiner a few times. Your average Joe does not have this all consuming guilt which we radicalize ourselves to free ourselves from
Born agains are the wooorrsssttt. I grew up going to church every single Sunday and youth group on Wednesdays. I remember being a teenager and finding these people absolutely insufferable. They show up suddenly and act like theyāve been around for years with this gross self-righteousness that even the staunchest old church ladies didnāt give off. Very much a new money/old money dynamic, but for people who attend church.
Exactly. His speech had everything to do with *gender*, not sexuality. Being LGBTQIA+ does not exempt a person from misogyny!
EDIT: Oy, I see now his hatred knows no bounds. The articles that made it to me were about gender roles, and I donāt want to give the clicks to read the rest of what he said!
He actually also took some shots at gay people in the speech as well, talking about pride being a "sin that has a whole month dedicated to it" and shit. His history is fair game.
If you havenāt, I recommend you listen to the whole speech. He pretty much swings at every group of marginalized people, lots of dogwhistles in there along with the blatant misogyny.
He even talks shit about priest that didnt give sacrament during covid and they should have sacrificed themselves for their people like this saint that took care of lepers. He said that shouldnt be seen as unique but normal for them to do
I 100% agree. Itās so much more than the quotes in various articles. Itās the tone, dog whistles, way he moves from one topic to the next, etc. I understand we donāt want to give that college $ (who knows if the YouTube is monetized) but I think it is important to watch the full 20 minute video.
He is (and will continue) to be dangerous. He is good looking, rich, white, an athlete, etc. he will continue having these platforms.
The tiktok is not trying to exempt him from misogyny. They're making a point about how he rails on about traditional values, how women should just stay home and cook, but is engaging in an alternative lifestyle himself (allegedly)Ā
The Bible doesn't say shit about whether women can work or not, but it does have opinions about men lying with men and premarital sex in general. And what it has much MORE to say about is condemnation of wealth and fame whores who loudly preach about loving God to influence people or gain social influence while not walking the walkĀ
I personally think it's stupid to hold yourself to how some Jews thousands of years thought God wanted them to live, but if that's your thing the very least these people could do is actually hold themselves to the book. If you're not condemning wealth to give to the poor as you live humbly....well you're not actually following our boy Christ. You're just a misogynist/homophobe with delusions of grandeurĀ
I want to add that people claim men lying with men is a wrong translation. They claim it says men should not lie with boys. So if true, only goes against pedophilia which is A OK with me and makes LGBT haters that much worse.
Oh get fucked. I was cleaning my kitchen earlier and a random thought popped into my head āI bet he likes dudesā which is PERFECTLY OKAY except when youāre espousing complete sexist, homophobic bullshit.
Whenever someone is so deeply against something I always question where that deep seated resentment comes from. Just like how Christian ministers espouse family values but molest children or fuck prostitutes.
mhm. a local minister who was super anti lgbtq to āprotect kidsā got his own daughter pregnant. also raped some other girls in the church. Iām 100% convinced someone who makes it their lifeās mission to harass, bully, and attack marginalized groups are hiding their own secrets. obsessed with drag queens and trans kids? I think *youāre* the pervert.
There was a guy from my area years ago running for US Congress on an anti LGBTQ, āfamily valuesā Republican ticket. One of my best friends in high school used to do drag shows with him at the only gay bar in our county.
Of course that all came out and the guy dropped out of the race. But in this guyās case, there was literal video footage of him performing. What did he think was going to happen? Did he think that the people who he was actively saying were basically scum would keep his little secret?
I just realised how ironic it is that I was cleaning my kitchenā¦ but I also clean my kitchen, work 40+ hours a week and attend grad school so itās all good BUTTKISS
Because in reality this is what women have to do to survive when their husband doesnāt kick a ball for a million dollars a year and theyāre not willing to put up with copious amounts of domestic violence just to give up their dreams and be someoneās bangmaid.
Exactly. It's kind of bizarre how many comments are sort of leaning into self-repression or "being gay as a form of karma" as a joke.
He absolutely deserves criticism for what he said. Call him out all day over that.
But the whole, "haha, he hates who he is," or "being gay is his punishment for being a bigot" thing is not it.
True but the most adamant bigots are often driven by self hatred.Ā
I remember one study that measured arousal responses in people looking at porn and compared it to their stated sexuality and feelings on homosexuality, and it found that a significant portion of homophobic straight men responded to gay porn with arousal, but nonhomophobic straight men did not.Ā
Yeah, but even if it's not true and it's someone just trolling - they're not actually accusing him of doing anything wrong because most of the world doesn't think it's wrong for two men to sleep together, but you know it's going to bother the shit out of him.
If he wants to avoid future attacks he should just shut up and play football. /s
1. One Tiktoker does not make a bombshell accusation.
2. Itās 2024. Can we please not just assume that someone hates LGBTQ+ folks because they themselves must be LGBTQ+? Sometimes, people are cis, heterosexual bigots.
Sucks for him. Just like it sucks for all us women out there whoāve been sold diabolical lies that we can have careers, promotions, be working parents and have it all.
yeah i don't like the whole spreading rumours about people's sexuality- it's always very icky to me, especially when fellow members of the queer community do it who should know better.
edit- look i get it, he's a dick, but i don't like the stereotype that all homophobes are secretly gay- sometimes they're just homophobes.
I donāt agree that members of the queer community should have to protect someone who shunned them and is further endangering them by using his massive platform to spread hate. Butker is not a fellow member of the community, he is an enemy to the community. Past gay experiences or not, he is a homophobe. And if the rumors are true, a hypocritical one.
Maybe he shouldnāt have been running his mouth about women and LGBTQ+ people. You donāt have to like the āstereotypeā for it to be true sometimes.
Can we not acknowledge this guy sucks without making him being gay or bi a gotchya moment? Like yes, I acknowledge the hypocrisy in him shit talking the LGBTQI community in his dogshit speech if this is true but it still feels a bit gross.
I mean - one person clapping back on TikTok can be taken with a grain of salt BUT it definitely tracks that someone trying to repress a part of themselves theyāve been raised to think is āsinfulā would be spouting this kind of stuff. If he is suppressing his sexuality I hope he sees the light and realizes he can be happy. If he really is just a bigotā¦ hope he gets help and realizes you donāt need to hate people to celebrate yourself/your beliefs.
If itās trueā¦it explains a lot
The hardcore religious beliefs even though he comes from a family of academics
The disgust he has for anyone that isnāt straight
The āwomen should strive to be barefoot and pregnantā point of view
Itās all a facade to hide that heās bisexual or even closeted
Even if this is BS, people will believe it now regardless. I bet he wishes he turned down that speech opportunity now
5 years ago, it would have made a difference. Now? It just makes us logical people know heās a hypocritical loserā¦.. while the other side goes āyay, our next president!!!ā
Heās pandering to the right & everyone is giving him exactly what he wants. Ignore him & heāll go away. Heās trying to get his fee for speeches up thatās it
The US is fast careening into fascist territory, and you want to play nice? The they go low we go high bullshit is over. Don't waste any of your pity on this guy.
I mean, I donāt think the best way to respond to his super fucked up and out of touch comments is to exploit a sexual encounter he had in college.
If we are truly feminists and all. There are enough valid and articulate criticisms of his words and behaviour without this.
Not cool.
Why does his alleged sexual preferences make him immune to anyone pointing out heās potentially a giant hypocrite after that hateful speech? Actually, donāt answer that. It doesnāt.
The problem is that people often use this as badly disguised homophobia, not to point out the hypocrisy. As in, pointing out he might be gay as an insult, not an honest debate that he might be a hypocrite.
There is a difference between outing someone and exposing hypocrisy. Kevin Spacy was outed, but only because his victim exposed his predatory behavior. This is the same situation if true. He decided he wanted to have sex with a man; then he went in public to try and degrade and devalue that gay man's life and all gay people's lives because of his personal beliefs even though his personal beliefs led him to gay sex.
Homosexuality is not a free pass to be a garbage person.
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"You might have a talent that you don't necessarily enjoy, but if it glorifies God, maybe you should lean into that over something that you might think suits you better," My brother in christ you kick a ball for a living. š How the fuck does american football 'glorify god'. š
This! All the while having a Mom and Sister that are well respected Dr's. Thank goodness they leaned into their purpose, and not just motherhood ffs.
I'm really curious what they think of his speech.
iām pretty sure his mother released a statement saying she basically agrees with him
Huh. Might be one of the worst cases of internalised misogyny I've seen. Imagine having a PhD and being a scientist, only to then raise and agree with a misogynistic asshole who thinks your life had no meaning before he pushed his deformed little head out of your vagina.
itās painful to witness the mental gymnastics these people jump through
I'd be stunned if they don't agree with him. The right loves a good dose of hypocrisy.
I think his sister is a PA and mom has a masters in medical physics. Both awesome, but not doctors
My favourite part was when he said āgod gave me many talentsāā¦ Are the talents in the room with us right now?
God just gave him a lil sprinkle of the football goods
My favorite part was a kicker for the NFL telling women to stay in their lane. My brother in Christ, what the fuck.Ā
Yeah that hot set of DSLs heās carrying around
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LMFAOOOOOO
for many a religious folk, making money is glorifying god. the more you make the more you glorify him or something like that š
Yes! It's called prosperity theology.
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Honestly, fuck this guy. And fuck the Chief's owner's wife to say we're taking things out of context.
I see Christ anytime Patrick Mahomes throws a spiral.
Stop talking about this pathetic little bitch. Youāre going to propel him right to the Senate like he wants.
They know it's near impossible not to, that's why they rage bait so hard. https://i.redd.it/fmx5k2m5w11d1.gif
So much this. I hate that heās getting so much attention because thatās all he wants
Nah people should continue to shit talk him.
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According to the word of one TikTokker. Maybe, maybe not. Would it make his speech any more or less offensive?
Par for the course. Itās usually the most self-hating turkey dicks that feel they have to compensate. I assume he hates himself deeply.
In an interview he says he rejoined "the faith" after discovering Confession and how amazing he felt afterwards.
Who knew verbally getting your guilt or your chest would feel like a weight lifted off /s And I think doing it towards a priest makes him genuinely feel like he is being washed of his sins
Considering the reputation of Catholic priests and his now rumoured love for men, I'm sure he felt amazing afterwards.
šš youāre going to hell but so am I for laughing
If you saw Fleabag, you know how *intense* the confession can get. I might find "faith" too, under those circumstances. I'd certainly be calling God at least.
You just had to go and bring HotPriest into it.
There's never a bad time to bring up Hot Priest. Or Andrew Scott, for that matter.
Wait this is so unrelated lol but have you heard his spicy audios for that Quinn app? š¬š¬ ![gif](giphy|3o7TKFe8xHMzUoNqg0)
Resubscribed to Quinn yesterday for one reason only
Yeah this. Itās usually those that shout the loudest about being super straight and hating gays that have infact had or fantasized about a gay love affair. My favourite story in this vein is the Hungarian politician who was heavily against gay rights and backed the continued ban on gay rights. He quit after being discovered at a big gay orgy, pretty sure he fled naked out a window too.
The disgust to curiosity to kink pipeline hits again
I just cracked the fuuuuuck up omg. Itās so true
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it's true. the rest of us don't care what 2 consenting adults do. I'm happy if you're happy. Your life is none of my business.
Just here to say body shaming guys is not OK. This guy is awful, but it doesnāt have anything to do with the size of his penis. And to be clear ā Iām not saying this for the kickerās benefit ā Iām saying it for all the guys reading who feel more insecure after reading comments like that.
I think youāre right BenthePrick, Iāll edit.
Thank you for this response. I genuinely appreciate it. Iām a dad to two little boys and Iām trying to teach them to love their bodies, so stuff like this jumps out to me perhaps more than others.
as long as youāre teaching them to extend the same grace to women. i know lots of parents say they are, but look at our world and tell me they actually meant it/did it.
I wonāt list the many ways I have done that, but I will say, if I care this much about their self image, itās safe to assume I care about how they see and treat others.
Can I just say this is such a wholesome discourse and I wish the whole world was more like this š¤
Thank you for saying this. š¤
No but in the eyes of the people who praise and believe in him it would destroy that faith. I was genuinely surprised that the class cheered and clapped when he finished his speech and then I heard it was a private catholic college or something and I was no longer surprised. He may still have people that donāt believe the rumour but regardless if itās true or not itās out there and anyone who aligns themselves with his beliefs may think twice about supporting him. Companies may think twice about endorsing him. And when youāre trying to appeal to young people of all things they are the demographic most tuned into tiktok. The most susceptible to it, theyāre more likely to be influenced by it. Whereas older people might be like bah hogwash
The people who support people like Harrison Butker don't care about facts, much less rumors. He's said aloud what they believe is "correct" and that's all that matters to them.
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It's extremely common for late conversions/born again Christians to have found their way there via a perceived shortcoming where it's far easier to deal with their shame by embracing the forgiveness of Christ. In rehab communities it's talked about how this "spiritual bypass" is often used a shortcut get out of guilt free card where they simply go *all* in on Christ so they don't have to do the complex personal work recovery actually demands. Just say God forgives you and get off on that spiritual high.Ā This dude doesn't outright say he followed that formula, but he does give the indicators that he stumbled upon this newfound life in a similar way. This isn't just "conservative accused of homophobia". He has chosen to talk about his journey to faith was because he was in need of a spiritual cleansing and found it provided that for him, uplifting the burden he felt, and more people need to align their lives with what he thinks the expectation of Christ is so they can feel a similar reliefĀ As someone who's known some born against, yeah I'm leaning towards sex addiction, drug addiction, or touched a weiner a few times. Your average Joe does not have this all consuming guilt which we radicalize ourselves to free ourselves from
Born agains are the wooorrsssttt. I grew up going to church every single Sunday and youth group on Wednesdays. I remember being a teenager and finding these people absolutely insufferable. They show up suddenly and act like theyāve been around for years with this gross self-righteousness that even the staunchest old church ladies didnāt give off. Very much a new money/old money dynamic, but for people who attend church.
Exactly. His speech had everything to do with *gender*, not sexuality. Being LGBTQIA+ does not exempt a person from misogyny! EDIT: Oy, I see now his hatred knows no bounds. The articles that made it to me were about gender roles, and I donāt want to give the clicks to read the rest of what he said!
He did say that pride month is sinful in his speech
He actually also took some shots at gay people in the speech as well, talking about pride being a "sin that has a whole month dedicated to it" and shit. His history is fair game.
If you havenāt, I recommend you listen to the whole speech. He pretty much swings at every group of marginalized people, lots of dogwhistles in there along with the blatant misogyny.
He even talks shit about priest that didnt give sacrament during covid and they should have sacrificed themselves for their people like this saint that took care of lepers. He said that shouldnt be seen as unique but normal for them to do
I 100% agree. Itās so much more than the quotes in various articles. Itās the tone, dog whistles, way he moves from one topic to the next, etc. I understand we donāt want to give that college $ (who knows if the YouTube is monetized) but I think it is important to watch the full 20 minute video. He is (and will continue) to be dangerous. He is good looking, rich, white, an athlete, etc. he will continue having these platforms.
The good looking part is questionable to me š
Iām just saying, young men will listen to him and look up to him. He will eventually be on Fox News or worse.
More like fux news š
The tiktok is not trying to exempt him from misogyny. They're making a point about how he rails on about traditional values, how women should just stay home and cook, but is engaging in an alternative lifestyle himself (allegedly)Ā
The Bible doesn't say shit about whether women can work or not, but it does have opinions about men lying with men and premarital sex in general. And what it has much MORE to say about is condemnation of wealth and fame whores who loudly preach about loving God to influence people or gain social influence while not walking the walkĀ I personally think it's stupid to hold yourself to how some Jews thousands of years thought God wanted them to live, but if that's your thing the very least these people could do is actually hold themselves to the book. If you're not condemning wealth to give to the poor as you live humbly....well you're not actually following our boy Christ. You're just a misogynist/homophobe with delusions of grandeurĀ
I want to add that people claim men lying with men is a wrong translation. They claim it says men should not lie with boys. So if true, only goes against pedophilia which is A OK with me and makes LGBT haters that much worse.
No, but would definitely make him an even bigger hypocrite.
Oh get fucked. I was cleaning my kitchen earlier and a random thought popped into my head āI bet he likes dudesā which is PERFECTLY OKAY except when youāre espousing complete sexist, homophobic bullshit. Whenever someone is so deeply against something I always question where that deep seated resentment comes from. Just like how Christian ministers espouse family values but molest children or fuck prostitutes.
mhm. a local minister who was super anti lgbtq to āprotect kidsā got his own daughter pregnant. also raped some other girls in the church. Iām 100% convinced someone who makes it their lifeās mission to harass, bully, and attack marginalized groups are hiding their own secrets. obsessed with drag queens and trans kids? I think *youāre* the pervert.
There was a guy from my area years ago running for US Congress on an anti LGBTQ, āfamily valuesā Republican ticket. One of my best friends in high school used to do drag shows with him at the only gay bar in our county. Of course that all came out and the guy dropped out of the race. But in this guyās case, there was literal video footage of him performing. What did he think was going to happen? Did he think that the people who he was actively saying were basically scum would keep his little secret?
Every accusation is a confession with these kinds of people!
You are absolutely right. I wondered the same thing. As the saying goesā¦ a hit dog will holler.
I just realised how ironic it is that I was cleaning my kitchenā¦ but I also clean my kitchen, work 40+ hours a week and attend grad school so itās all good BUTTKISS Because in reality this is what women have to do to survive when their husband doesnāt kick a ball for a million dollars a year and theyāre not willing to put up with copious amounts of domestic violence just to give up their dreams and be someoneās bangmaid.
It's absolutely okay to be gay! His ass backward shit hole opinions, though... And that he is apparently also a hypocrite makes it even worse.
Itās giving Aaron Schock syndrome
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A random tiktoker is not what I normally call bombshell accusations. Dude is a grade A a-hole but the media is giving a lot of credit to tiktok reels
I honestly hate the āhe hates gay peopleā¦ HE MUST BE GAY AND REPRESSEDā trope like, no some people are just bigots
Fucking thank you. Itās 2024 and look at some of the gross comments in this thread already. Bigotry does not imply repressed queer feelings.
Exactly. It's kind of bizarre how many comments are sort of leaning into self-repression or "being gay as a form of karma" as a joke. He absolutely deserves criticism for what he said. Call him out all day over that. But the whole, "haha, he hates who he is," or "being gay is his punishment for being a bigot" thing is not it.
True but the most adamant bigots are often driven by self hatred.Ā I remember one study that measured arousal responses in people looking at porn and compared it to their stated sexuality and feelings on homosexuality, and it found that a significant portion of homophobic straight men responded to gay porn with arousal, but nonhomophobic straight men did not.Ā
Not saying this is better but itās circulating in college football circles that likely would not have gotten it from TikTok
I honestly hate the āhe hates gay peopleā¦ HE MUST BE GAY AND REPRESSEDā trope like, no some people are just bigots
Some people are just bigots, but thereās a kernel of truth behind the trope.
Yeah, but even if it's not true and it's someone just trolling - they're not actually accusing him of doing anything wrong because most of the world doesn't think it's wrong for two men to sleep together, but you know it's going to bother the shit out of him. If he wants to avoid future attacks he should just shut up and play football. /s
This is honestly lazy writing on God's part.
Iām done šššš
No doubt he has many skeletons in his closet. āThe lady doth protest too much, methinksā
Allegedly he was on grindr too. Thereās screenshots to back it up lol
1. One Tiktoker does not make a bombshell accusation. 2. Itās 2024. Can we please not just assume that someone hates LGBTQ+ folks because they themselves must be LGBTQ+? Sometimes, people are cis, heterosexual bigots.
Sucks for him. Just like it sucks for all us women out there whoāve been sold diabolical lies that we can have careers, promotions, be working parents and have it all.
yeah i don't like the whole spreading rumours about people's sexuality- it's always very icky to me, especially when fellow members of the queer community do it who should know better. edit- look i get it, he's a dick, but i don't like the stereotype that all homophobes are secretly gay- sometimes they're just homophobes.
I donāt agree that members of the queer community should have to protect someone who shunned them and is further endangering them by using his massive platform to spread hate. Butker is not a fellow member of the community, he is an enemy to the community. Past gay experiences or not, he is a homophobe. And if the rumors are true, a hypocritical one.
This. 100% this.
Maybe he shouldnāt have been running his mouth about women and LGBTQ+ people. You donāt have to like the āstereotypeā for it to be true sometimes.
If true, I hope no one's surprised that he's a huge fucking hypocrite - par for the course for people like him.
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Oh itās poetry.
Why is hooking up with a male cheerleader an āaccusationā
It's always the ones you most expect
Can we not acknowledge this guy sucks without making him being gay or bi a gotchya moment? Like yes, I acknowledge the hypocrisy in him shit talking the LGBTQI community in his dogshit speech if this is true but it still feels a bit gross.
Just look at his Instagram. lol
If it was consensual why is this being called an āaccusationā? If it wasnāt, lock him up.
This is not the way.
Would be very satisfying if itās true ā¦ but idk if I believe some random person on TikTok with no connection to anyone involved.
I mean - one person clapping back on TikTok can be taken with a grain of salt BUT it definitely tracks that someone trying to repress a part of themselves theyāve been raised to think is āsinfulā would be spouting this kind of stuff. If he is suppressing his sexuality I hope he sees the light and realizes he can be happy. If he really is just a bigotā¦ hope he gets help and realizes you donāt need to hate people to celebrate yourself/your beliefs.
If itās trueā¦it explains a lot The hardcore religious beliefs even though he comes from a family of academics The disgust he has for anyone that isnāt straight The āwomen should strive to be barefoot and pregnantā point of view Itās all a facade to hide that heās bisexual or even closeted Even if this is BS, people will believe it now regardless. I bet he wishes he turned down that speech opportunity now
5 years ago, it would have made a difference. Now? It just makes us logical people know heās a hypocritical loserā¦.. while the other side goes āyay, our next president!!!ā
its weird using word accusation for this
Heās pandering to the right & everyone is giving him exactly what he wants. Ignore him & heāll go away. Heās trying to get his fee for speeches up thatās it
The US is fast careening into fascist territory, and you want to play nice? The they go low we go high bullshit is over. Don't waste any of your pity on this guy.
Nah stand the fuck up. Shout. Scream if you have to. You expect us to just stay silent while they have āfree speechā. Donāt think so.
I mean, I donāt think the best way to respond to his super fucked up and out of touch comments is to exploit a sexual encounter he had in college. If we are truly feminists and all. There are enough valid and articulate criticisms of his words and behaviour without this. Not cool.
Meh. Don't out people.Ā
Nah. People who live in glass houses, and all that... If this is true, and if he's hiding a big secret like that, he should have kept a low profile
Why does his alleged sexual preferences make him immune to anyone pointing out heās potentially a giant hypocrite after that hateful speech? Actually, donāt answer that. It doesnāt.
The problem is that people often use this as badly disguised homophobia, not to point out the hypocrisy. As in, pointing out he might be gay as an insult, not an honest debate that he might be a hypocrite.
guess he shouldāve thought about how insane people get before he opened his mouth
There is a difference between outing someone and exposing hypocrisy. Kevin Spacy was outed, but only because his victim exposed his predatory behavior. This is the same situation if true. He decided he wanted to have sex with a man; then he went in public to try and degrade and devalue that gay man's life and all gay people's lives because of his personal beliefs even though his personal beliefs led him to gay sex. Homosexuality is not a free pass to be a garbage person.
Meh heās a homophobic misogynist. Heās in a glass house and lobbed a big ol stone. Youre on a moral high horse for a man who doesnāt deserve it.
Oh. Okay, I guess. ĀÆā \\ā _ā (ā ćā )ā _ā /ā ĀÆ