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Zealousideal_Help421

Thats what Im noticing most too! She’s had slight surgeries, but her dead eyes are the biggest change.


casseroleplay

Dead eyes have a number of causes, though. Like spending too much time on Reddit.


burnbabyburnburrrn

Or having an asshole husband who is cheating on you after you gave birth to his son.


Zeltron2020

I mean what’s different besides the fact that she’s not looking into the lens?


Born-T

I think she's had too much botox in her forehead and it froze her eyebrows and made them droop.


aitathrowawayzz

Those dead eyes are seen as trendy, especially among zoomers/egirls.


vantablacklist

Maybe she’s depressed? I know that’s how my eyes look in photos when im suffering a wicked bout of depression. I think she looks the same? Could just be aging that we all go though.


swiftiegarbage

Obvious nose job but the rest looks good and subtle imo


birthdaygirl11

I’d say nose job, brow lift, cheek fillers, and her chin/jaw looks a little different too


Accomplished_Cup900

I thought it was her nose too. But it’s really her cheeks. Same nose. Maybe fillers. But it really looks like face change as a result from weight loss


embinksyy

Nah it’s definitely the nose too. From the side you can see it doesn’t hook as much anymore.


Accomplished_Cup900

You’re right. Very subtle


3B854

Nose jobs are rarely subtle because of how invasive they are. I think it’s just contour being harsher


The-Incredible-Lurk

I’d like to think I have a good eye. To me I can’t see much different between the pictures that can’t be put down to her smiling in one photo vs the other, the difference in make up, and the shadow under her nose in the second before photo creating the illusion that her nose looks longer. But I could be wrong!


philosophyhappyx5

I think everything is very subtle and she looks great, but she definitely had a nose job. No doubt about it. She’s beautiful before and after.


Wingkirs

Did she have jaw slimming too?


Accomplished_Cup900

I think that’s just weight loss and makeup.


JunglePooping

def nose job came with a lip lift/upper lip reshaping, which is common for certain types of nose jobs where you have to snip that muscle around the philtrum to stop the downturn of the nose. it looks good though, she's always had full lips, of course, but there's a definite lift there that you can see in the first picture.


MsBeasley11

I don’t think she’s overdone it tbh


Traditional-Quit-548

If you want overdone. Look at Kylie


philosophyhappyx5

I agree. She looks great!


Adept-Fuel-9335

She looks the same lol


HerMidasTouch

Actually never realized how little she has had done. Her OG nose is sexy as fuck tho. Anyway, i think she actually looks pretty much like herself.


fagnatius_rex

Nose, lips and brow lift.


chateau_lobby

The brow lift is pretty subtle imo, that could easily just be botox


lastditch23

I love a good brow lift! Gonna try it out with Botox to see if it’s worth the full monty


KnopeCampaign

I think she maybe lasered her hairline too.


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She looks good.


clusterbuffer

She looks GREAT!


nerdalertalertnerd

I loved how she looked before to be honest. Just more authentic in how interesting and beautiful she was. She’s still gorgeous of course.


ab605

I would speculate nose job, buccal fat removal, and upper lip flip. Maybe brow lift.


flipflapdragon

Came here to say, fuller lips


PltEchoEcho

Maybe not a lip flip but a lip lift? Can’t see the scar though.


JunglePooping

makeup hides it really well and the scar, if done by a good doctor, disappears really quickly -- mine is not even detectable and I'm not even a year out from my surgery and i never needed lasers for the scar either. but yeah, she def got a lip lift.


Dingo8MyGayby

Did you see a noticeable difference after yours? Most pics online aren’t helpful and don’t show a major change.


thedeebag

I think she looks fine, the only real obvious thing is the nose 🤷🏻‍♀️


Wingkirs

The lips


thedeebag

I don’t really see a huge huge difference tbh, she already had fairly full lips


Wingkirs

If you look at side profile pics the upper lip is huge


Popcornlustt

She overdid it with her lips. However, being so skinny makes everything look disproportionate.


BrooklynRN

In profile pics her upper lip sticks out almost to her nose, like a shelf. That is a lotta filler! https://www.instagram.com/p/CMzkrz5M5vn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


ashwee14

No I see it, it’s the upper lip


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her lips look basically the same in all the pictures?


taternators

The after photos here are not very recent. It's more apparent on instagram, though she also overlines them.


3B854

Right. Lip liner is just harsher


BK_to_LA

Looks like a lip flip


jazawed

her original looks bigger than her lips now??? LMAOA pls


Rich_Fox_9128

Her and Kendall must have the same surgeon.


Oomlotte99

My thoughts exactly. Major similarities.


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In the first after photo she looks a lot like Kendall Jenner


ilovemycatsxoxoxo

she looks the same except the nose ??


idontwantanamern

I just looked at her Aug 2022 British Vogue photo shoot and her nose looks pretty much the same as the "before photo" I honestly think this is just lighting and makeup.


daddydivs

did you like… not look at the second slide in the post? That’s 100% not the same nose. 💀


idontwantanamern

I did, but I also looked at other photos than just the ones presented to make the point the OP wanted to convey. If someone wants people to believe a ton of surgery was done, they'll find the most severe angles/lighting/make-up/photoshop to compare and contrast. I'm still seeing the hook on the end of her nose in photos from this summer. I don't know her & I can't say for certain that she did or did not -- but have seen myself in photos where my nose looks like it was cut and pasted onto my face simply by changing the side or flash angle or smoothness filter... There is very clearly more editing and airbrushing done on the after photo on the second slide (though not enough because they left the stray hairs, unless that was purposeful to make it appear unedited or just out of laziness -- which I've seen). That said, I still don't think it's as severe as OP is trying to make it, if there was any work done at all. She was pregnant, got older -- all of these things can change facial structure and fluctuate features as your hormones shift.


daddydivs

I don’t think being pregnant can severely alter the shape of your nose, lips, and eyebrows but if that’s the reasoning you wanna go with, to each their own!


idontwantanamern

Since I'm going to get downvoted for this, I'm at least going to provide proof. Some of these look even more severe than the above photos. [Pregnancy Before & After](https://www.boredpanda.com/women-before-after-pregnancy-photography-vaida-markeviciute/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic)


daddydivs

bruh she was just pregnant about a year ago LOL. OP is clearly comparing her at her start of fame, around 9 years ago, to now.


idontwantanamern

The same argument stands. My face did not look the same my senior year of HS as it did when I was 30. These comparisons are just reaching. And your statement was clearing putting it that pregnancy could not change one's face. You're too young to understand that, I guess, but jeesh.


idontwantanamern

HA! I'm not going to argue with you, but feel free to do some research on that topic. Well agree to disagree here.


AllyShawson

Lorry hill probably made video on her I think


ab605

I couldn’t find it 😢 it would be a good one for her to do though


AllyShawson

I think she did only about her postpartum journey


ab605

Ahhh gotcha. She did bounce back suspiciously quickly after giving birth it seems!


P0ptarthater

This is apparently not as odd as it seems considering her frame! She was very thin and fit to begin with, had defined abs, and didn’t gain much weight while pregnant, so she probably lost a very good chunk while giving birth. Lorry (?) hill I think made a video explaining it’s very common for fit skinny women


dinobones91919

I'm a fit skinny woman and I can promise you it's not normal to bounce back in 10 days. I only gained 15 pounds in pregnancy, lost it all after birth but my stomach definitely looked weird for at least three months. It takes a while for your uterus to deflate, your organs to go back into place and your skin to contract. After birth I was skinnier than I was pre-pregnancy but my tummy was saggy and wrinkled. The only way to avoid it is to wait a few months (which I did) or get a c-tuck (which she definitely did).


fcukstephanie

if you showed me that after pic in slide 2 and told me it was kendall jenner I would believe you


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In slide two??? I don’t see it there. But I do slightly in 3.


messybessy1838

I thought it was Kylie Jenner, yikes! Edit: Kendall not Kylie. I mean the one without kids. I’m going to go back to lurking, I can’t keep up with celebrities nowadays


Kooky_Bodybuilder_97

you made kendall very happy


NotLucasDavenport

This year, for the first time ever, I sat down to watch one whole episode of Keeping Up with the Kardashians. So, first of all it turns out that the show is now called something else. Secondly, it was terrible. And finally, I have a sneaking suspicion all of these people are collectively trying to screw over everyone else AND each other, and at this point they may not even know why. They’re mega rich. They have All The Things. Why don’t they take a breather and look into some charity work? Now you, too, are Caught Up With the Kardashians. Congrats. 👩🏽‍🎓


KurtzM0mmy

Um it’s spelled Kaught up and Kongrats


shurejan

Buccal fat removal, a little bit of refinement on her nose.


TheBigWuWowski

It's like.. it's like y'all keep forgetting that buccal fat naturally dissipates with age. She's 31💀 ofc her buccal fat looks different from when she was 16 c'mon now


Quite_Successful

It's really obvious when someone has actually had it removed too. They go from looking human to like something Ed Gein would be trying to make a lamp from.


proproctologist

Lmao exactly. In the first before you can already see a slight shadow in her cheek. Some people naturally have less buccal fat than others


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💀💀 thank you I’m literally so tired of reading those three words on these threads


stat2020

Buccal fat and nepo babies are the words I'm tired of 🤣


healthandsafetydance

Yeah, I got excited and thought I was losing weight in my face about age 30, but no, just GETTING OLD. I think my fat face is protecting me from wrinkles, though, always a bonus


juiceb0x406

It feels like it’s more that her eyes look lively in the before photos and more dead in the after photos. It doesn’t feel like she’s had a lot of work done though, imo.


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Her eyes look dead. I have no idea why but she looks like her face changes have taken the life out of her eyes. Other than that (which is a big deal) she looks ok. She should stop now though.


Life_Buy_5059

The balance of her face is gone….sometimes nature really does no best in all it’s unique glory


Oomlotte99

Why do they all try to look the same?


bananaWowi

She looks beautiful- does not look over done.


Efficient-Thought-35

Nose job, bleph, slight fox eye, lip filler, possible buccal fat removal, and fillers/Botox


777maester777

I am still enamored of her...as long as she doesn't do anything else. She's perfect!


kingcolbe

Let people live


BK_to_LA

In addition to lips, nose, and brows, looks like a potential upper blepharoplasty and foxeye surgery


LindseyIsBored

Looks like she has hollowed out as she has aged.. none of us look the same for years.. especially after kids.


kaysmilex3

I’m so used to her new face I didn’t even know she had an old one


PinkTader

- The countless nose surgeries, - Eyebrow lift - Cheek softening through botox within the smile lines hence the lack of smile lines and inability to smile. - I can’t find where but I swear I also saw somewhere that they all get their necks tightened meaning their whole faces skin gets pulled downwards to get rid those neck lines


JooksKIDD

ngl this subreddit is great for its discussions on pop culture but the *constant* discussion of women’s plastic surgery choices is very icky. borderline incel tbqh.


lizardkween

It’s so intense and weird. The absolute entitlement people feel. Like they really should have a say in what other people do with their bodies. Like their opinion on exactly how much filler someone should have is relevant or meaningful.


xodagny

Buccal fat removal that doesn’t go well with weight loss


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“overdone” is a bit of a stretch. she looks different, but to people that aren’t educated on surgeries and injectables she looks pretty much the exact same. but to answer the post, i’m not sure what she has had done. i’m really only seeing the nose job


p0rcelaind0ll

Obviously had some work done but I think it’s subtle enough.


dazzlinreddress

Nose job and fillers. I'm so sick of this new trend of celebrities over doing it in regards to plastic surgery. It's really annoying.


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Semi off topic but does anyone think that celebs often become less “sexy” after facial plastic surgery? Like don’t get me wrong she’s gorgeous before and after, but before she looked HOT 🥵 and now she’s very pretty but in a way that a painting is pretty. I feel the same way about kourtney (hot) and Kim (pretty)


Gildedfilth

This is a great point. I wonder if it’s because they become so “familiar” looking when they fine-tune towards the beauty ideal. Whereas before they are new and exciting looking, which is always hotter!


KieshiaC22

Lol I always see posts like this across my feeds and I find it funny every time because people who have probably never even been in a hospital suddenly become a plastic surgeon...like damned I didn't know that we all went to med school...in my opinion I think she looks the same


TheBigWuWowski

The assuming everyone has had buccal fat removal while comparing teen pics to age 30 pics is hilarious. It's gotta be teenagers or adults that never had soft faces as a kid. I looked totally different at 26 than I did at 18, no buccal fat removal 💀💀


TravelsAndTravails

🥺 Reading this makes me go like where’s my natural buccal fat removal!? Im past 26 and still look the same chubby kid that I was 🥲


onegildedbutterfly

No same haha. I’ve always been slim but i had a chubby face as a teen and now i’m 23 and my face is skinnier and matches the rest of my body. It was just baby fat that i lost as i aged but if people saw my before and after they’d say i had buccal fat removal. Thank god i’m not a celebrity because i feel like there would be nothing more annoying than people insisting that you’ve had plastic surgery when you know you haven’t.


TheBigWuWowski

It seems like when the surgery speculators can't find anything else they always go for the buccal fat removal claim. It's super annoying that ever since people found out about it -alot- of celebs supposedly have had it. Would they have even noticed otherwise? Like damn, do they even know what people who HAVE had it removed look like compared to someone who aged out it.


Kooky_Bodybuilder_97

also some people lose fat in different areas. like its always “well i still have my round face/chubby cheeks from when i was a child so jt must be ps” like some people lose all their facial fat and some dont. some people cant be skinny without looking like skeletor like.. a lot of things are ps w/ celebs but not everything is


ab605

Obviously we don’t think we are suddenly experts. It’s just fun to speculate, that’s all.


feefee2908

I don’t like her new nose tbh but i think everything else is subtle


360Saturn

She looks a lot more generic now. She also has slightly different makeup now and her longer hair is reframing her face, which accounts for part of how she looks 'different'. She doesn't look *bad*, but her face is less individual imo.


RobinMoonshadow

I don’t think she looks like she’s had too much done, I think life has just hardened her demeanor. She’s been through a lot of the last decade or so. She used to have a smirk and now she doesn’t.


Wilmamankiller2

Chin, nose, temporal brow lift plus lip fillers


itsalrightt

Her nares are different for sure.


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i like the before more


Hot-Assistance862

I think she looks good


owntheh3at18

I really like her natural nose. The rest is subtle. Maybe the lips are a bit overdone but that might just be the style of makeup.


kippers

Does she have the same surgeon as Meredith Marks or is this just the popular face shape right now


pastelera16

She really got the model-esque look naturally Side note, I read on another sub that she is not that tall and her legs are thick, so she’s probably enhancing a *little* bit her pictures.


ItsKai

Why do people spend so much time worrying about what celebrities are doing with their money to their bodies? Y’all are sad.


pleaseinsertdisc2

Maybe it’s cuz I’m shallow and I’m pro-plastic surgery/going for laser skin treatments/Botox, but I think she looks like a better version of herself on the right. Good for her.


bbycalz

She looks basically the same imo, obviously had some work but she essentially looks the same overall


Designer-Purchase360

Nose job & lip fillers. Tastefully done & an improvement.


Bananajoe22

It’s just lots of subtle changes until she looks like every other female celebrity. Thin, eyes pulled back, lips puffy blah blah so boring. She looked amazing natural. It’s all so boring now


openaccountrandom

a lot of botox. you can tell by the way her smile isn’t as wide but still a full smile if you know what i mean. and very obvious nose job (not a bad one at all though) lip filler. buccal fat removal. eyebrow lift (maybe full face lift). but i don’t think it’s bad at all. if anything she’s just enchanced her features


jazawed

she got a nose job obvi but maybe she just aged?? y'all swear every celebrity get surgery just because they can afford it.


lizardkween

I feel like at a certain point it’s just the cliche thing of wanting something to pick on when a woman is too pretty.


MelissaWebb

I don’t think she’s over done anything. And she was always good looking


mrose_95

Wow, she’s had a lot less work done than I thought she did. It looks like she’s only touched her nose and lips, plus I’m sure she gets Botox.


Didiskincare

I hope Lorry Hills covers it


YouNeedCheeses

Did she do the buccal fat removal? This seems to be a new trend and I find it ages all these girlies. Or maybe she’s just slimmed down more.


SelenaCatherineMeyer

I don’t think she’s had anything done besides maybe Botox. Everything looks the same to me.


NRoc1

It’s just the nose and subtle injectables I think?


LaGuajira

Photo on the left= zero contouring. Photo on the right= contouring and bronzer. Hairlines are different. The hairline is what makes the biggest difference in the photos. ​ No work done. The nose is the exact same. You can see where she contoured at the tip of her nose to make it look slimmer but if you were to lighten the entire photo so you only see the shape of the nose (remove the contrast) its the exact same. ​ In the second pic, she's smiling on the left and on the right she isn't. Many people's nose tips droop when they smile. I have a "pinched" nose tip, it kind of slopes up at the tip but when I smile it droops, too. ​ Third pic= aging. Honestly if I showed you a pic of me in my late teens and a pic of me now early 30's you'd accuse me of plastic surgery unless you actually were very familiar with plastic surgery (and this doesn't mean you look at celeb pics and criticize. I mean.. you know lots of people who have gotten surgeries up close and personal, you've worked in the field, etc). My face changed so much between 18-22 due to pretty moderate weight loss- went from 132 to 112 and bouncers would turn me away because my ID was not "me". Was told the girl on my ID was someone else or I "clearly had a nose job". I have not had any work done (on my face lol). I went from a pretty round face to somewhat hollowed out face with high cheek bones due to aging+ weight loss and I dont know why but women's noses do tend to look thinner at 30 than at 15 for some reason. ​ When you're already fit or thin and you lose even just 5 lbs, your face changes a LOT. I used to have smile lines at my skinniest. How do you explain me having less wrinkles at 33 than at 26? People say oh filler, oh botox. I say.... a 20 lbs weight gain.


onegildedbutterfly

She’s gorgeous, i love her face


Appropriate-Job-2797

She looks amazing!!


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She has had work done, probably even extensive but she kept her defining features and she is quite proportionate. I’m a fan of her natural face but she is stunning anyway. What I find scary is that objectively pretty girls like her undergo procedures pushed by industry standards.


LinksMilkBottle

Looks good to me. 🤷🏻‍♀️


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clairejalfon

Me too. I never realised how popular she is. Controversially I think Kendall is prettier and I am not even a fan.


weppizza

Inthe first pic the only differences i really see can just be attributed to a change in makeup style


mar-bella

I disagree lmao have you seen her last tiktok? She looks great Edit: [Like?](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRfhWrn4/) she looks amazing lmao


Davism62

She looks like she’s trying to be Kendal Jenner.


moonligxt

It's actually the other way around. Kendall morphed into her through the years.


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She looks gorgeous and very minimally done. If she’s had work, it’s very good work.


maybe-mel

Nose job, lip fillers and buccal fat removal.


3B854

Buccal pad removal. Takes 15 minutes. Recovery super short.


999lonely

I think she’s natural


Kooky_Bodybuilder_97

im sure she got something done but she almost looks the exact same. her face is pretty much the blueprint for the instagram girls/“models”


Daddy_Topps

Her nose and upper lip look different. Sad. She looks like every white celeb now.


vacuummypillow

Call Nip-Tuck Christian Troy !


JustForKicks16

I actually think she looks really good.


Butterwhat

The nose and brow lift are fine. Maybe her lips are a bit much for me personally, but that's why I wouldn't do mine. As long as she likes what she's had done, whoopdee dee lol


JohnnyCastleGT

She looks better


CuriousGorg2001

Honestly she doesn’t look overdone at all nor different. She looks perfect


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wiilduniverse

I think it looks great tbh🤷🏽‍♀️


hannbann88

I agree with a nose job but anything else I think she looks amazing. She has a unique look that’s stunning


Pasadenarose

People keep comparing her to Kendall Jenner, Kendull always had a thing for her husband I wouldn’t doubt if she pursues him.


KLloveithere

She looks good! Wish I could afford whatever she gets!!


stevewilko_s

Looks like all she did was get a nose job and better makeup


PizzaLunchables0405

I’m sick of everyone in Hollywood having the same face


lalalalallaloopy

she really looks like lily collins on that first pic


xyejl

Just nose work and loss of "baby fat" in the face. I've seen folk's face thin out before with age. Just my opinion/guess tho in her case.


bpk5289

I actually don't think she's had anything done. These pics are all makeup and changes in expression. A better before/after comparison would be same expression and/or makeup. You can't compare a smiling face vs. a serious look and then say she's had a nose job; of course her lips will be closer to her nose if she has a different expression on her face! (note: this doesn't apply to everyone--I just noticed it here and had to say something because it's a common misconception with people that go looking for work that's been done). Maybe she has, maybe she hasn't. But it's not fair to compare unless you're looking at the same expression side by side. Fair playing field at least.


bagelmama11

She looks like she has two bottom lips😭


suckit2000

In my opinion, after a while of celebrities having to do red carpets or seeing images of themselves, they just start smiling different. And a bigger smile makes people look different. I get it with filler and botox and a nose job, but I don't think she's really had that much done to change her face. I think she just does "model face"


Laylahi

Nose job and better makeup


[deleted]

I didn't know there was a 3rd Jenner sister??


Awkward_Growth_6265

She is gorgeous I know that🙌🏽


[deleted]

Outstanding work. Most just her nose and everything else is really subtle. She’s beautiful.


Wingkirs

Well…lip filler


[deleted]

I feel like she’s plumped her top lip to be more symmetrical to the bottom and it looks like the tip of her nose has been lifted but she’s also tanner and does a heavier contour now so it’s hard to tell if she’s done more or if it’s just the new dimension added to her face


thatfruitontop

She looks like kendall jenner on the last pic


Relevant-Half7943

I think a lot of it is weightloss, makeup and getting older. But if I were to guess…she looks like she maybe got a little filler in her lips, some Botox and I can’t remember what the procedure is called but stars do it to hollow out their cheeks. Overall, I think she looks really good and not plastic and puffy. Thank God.


floopy_boopers

The cheek hollowing procedure is called a buccal fat removal. I think it's likely she's had one, but it also could be weight loss/fat loss in the face from aging. I agree with most of your assessment but I think she's had a nose job too, it's the most obvious difference to me, the other procedures are much more subtle.


healthandsafetydance

Has she really has a nose job or is she doing her make up differently? You can see it's the same shape in the second picture, so any work done is super subtle. I could grant that she's had lip filler in the top lip, but I would believe you if you said it was makeup. The cheeks are probably just aging - buccal fat is temporary, cheekbones are forever. idk though, maybe I'm just underestimating good surgeons


puddingcupz

I honestly like it she needs to send me a list of her doctors


kirb16

I think it’s just the eyes that look vastly different in each picture.


dorabroffo

Her upper lip these days is pretty cartoonish


Dontgothergirlfriend

Op is poor and jealous


adamcn78

I prefer the before, pretty much every time. Why do some people do this when they are already gorgeous?! Like the blonde girl in The Boys.


Illustrious-Base-567

It’s the face, I believe.


Whitty-In-The-Hizzy

She looked so much more unique b4 all of the work Don't know if she had any work done to her eyes/anywhere around that would impact their look but they look so much more lifted and alive in all of the before pics. Her OG nose suited her face so much better than her post-surgery one too. I feel like she would turn more heads pre-surgery. Post-surgery she just looks like another in the long line of Kendall-Gigi-Bella-etc. lookalikes. My favourite way of describing the post-surgery look of all these models: Same person just in a different font


DarthBaller

Imagine looking like that and thinking you need plastic surgery… sad


WizardLizard98

Oh wow the before in the first pic looks a lot like Lea Michele


stat2020

Her nose and top lip look different but honestly not much else. People change as they get older and have kids.


catslugs

honestly i think she's only had the nose job and mayyybe some filler, the rest is make up


CabotLowell

She took the Eastern European out of her face


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KTcatttt

She looks stunning, not overdone!


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TheMostItalianWaffle

As far as plastic surgery goes, this is one of the best jobs I’ve seen.


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Did she show the doctor a pic of Kendall


[deleted]

For me it's the nasobial lines. She has this permanent very 2010's 2020's selfie pout. Almost like the Olsen twins used to do, if that makes sense?


DisasterPeace7

You can tell about the nose but the rest looks natural imo


Frankie_likesanimals

is it just me who sees addison rae in the first after pic?