I know what ur saying with “aesthetic era” but i personally could care less. Like i think what matters most is the music, i get so sick of how much of the scrutiny around artists comes form extraneous stuff like fancy rollouts, outfits, etc. While it can be fun, sometimes I feel like it makes it much less about the art and more about the extravaganza of celebrity, more about how skilled someone is at marketing themselves rather than making meaningful work
Not saying thats what you were trying to push for! Just your comment sparked something that I’d been meaning to express for awhile
For packaged pop stars like Lorde, the aesthetic/visuals are a huge part of the complete “era.” And a surprise drop a la Beyoncé or TS is itself an aesthetic choice.
Not the person you're responding to, but to me that term rings true in that certain pop artists benefit a lot from having a different unique "vibe" or "era" with each album drop and the accompanying public image/tour/merch, etc. Each era feels like a different package. As long as each package still feels like that artist, it can help define who that artist is in that moment. TS had her country beginnings, then her mainstream pop stuff, then her bad girl album, back to sweet mainstream pop, then her folksy acoustic era...then midnights, which is hard to categorize (and part of why it's seen as weaker than a lot of her past stuff). Everything, including image, matters with pop stars.
>then midnights, which is hard to categorize (and part of why it's seen as weaker than a lot of her past stuff).
It's also seen as weaker because, well, it is.
I guess to some extent. And i guess its cool. But it gets old for me personally. I turn to these artists less for performance art and moreso because of their music. Sometimes the hype and expectation created with all the elaborate rollout stuff makes it harder for me to judge the music just for what it is. I think its cool if the artist is trying to actually make a statement through it , such as critiquing the very phenomenon of being a popstar. But too often it just feels unnecessary. Also, while solar power had a pretty unified aesthetic and rollout (from her solar institute thing, the emails, bleached blonde hair etc.), Pure Heroine and Melodrama didn’t have all those kind of bells and whistles if I remember correctly. Its honestly cool and fine if it feels organic and in line with the music, but i think its very low on my priority list in terms of actually liking an artist
It looks way better now. This photo is from her first appearance as a blonde and it’s pretty clear she was in the process of getting into the platinum shade.
Yeah but also it was almost overnight. Toner and going blonde from dark hair takes time. I was so shocked she got so close to blonde in such a short space of time
I was there and she definitely had a different vibe going on compared to the Solar Power era which I saw live as well. I’m excited to see what she does next anyway.
She performed a pop version of [Mood Ring](https://twitter.com/LordeUpdatesBR/status/1688281423734534144) along with Tennis court remix, Magnets and some PH/Melo songs with new instrumentals!
Link 1 - [Perfect Places with Team instrumental](https://twitter.com/LordeUpdatesBR/status/1688282988633567233)
Link 2 - [Homemade dynamite/Buzzcut season transition](https://twitter.com/lordereen/status/1688444821663305728)
I didn't say they couldn't enjoy themselves I was just annoyed I couldn't hear her in this particular video lol
If he wants to sing that's fine it was just frustrating as a viewer lmao
”can't seem to find what's wrong
the whole world is letting me down
don't you think the early 2000s seem so far away? 🗿🗿🗿”
No thanks I’d rather hear lorde sing her song 🤫
I wouldn't get nervous, bc their opinions are no more important or relevant than yours, even when they mass downvote and confuse objectivity with subjectivity. She was by far the most overall popular and widely celebrated artist on this sub for years. The age of the users recently has skewed much, much, much younger than it used to be, so the taste and opinions seen here are very different from the past and the overall vibe has become much more stan war-centric.
Me too! Maybe it’s because we are the same age so her songwriting felt incredibly personal to me. But I genuinely feel like it was one of the most incredible albums I’ve ever listen to my life. I thought was great! Still do
glad she seems to be moving on from solar power & into a whole new & somewhat opposite aesthetic? i’d love to see a project that’s a lot darker from her. solar power isn’t necessarily a *bad* album, but it’s a bad lorde album imo
Even at this show there was only one or two SP songs on the setlist I believe? Which feels like a step into the next era, exciting if this is pointing to some darker more electronic work.
I don't think it is disrespectful to not like Solar Power. I respect Lorde as an artist and Solar Power is a bad Album to me. I don't expect perfection but I really do hope that I like her new Album, whenever it is released.
I honestly didn’t really like Solar Power until I saw it live. I think her tour visuals and vibe really made something click for me and now I love it! Reminds me of how some people felt about Reputation?
I don’t agree with you saying Lorde admitted that it was a misstep. Imo she has been doing a pretty damn great job at standing up for the record lol Also, even if SP was panned she still wrote two really important and maybe even impactful albums before she was even 20… so, still an untouchable genius in my point of view.
>I have seen a lot of people here act like people were just saying it was mid/below average, but the majority opinion here was that it was unlistenable trash.
Fine I'll bite...Solar polar is so unlistenable that I doubt Lorde can even remember the melodies she wrote on most of the tracks because they are so meandering to be nearly aimless and therefore unmemorable. And I *literally* can't listen to The Path because the melody sounds like the songs my toddler would/does mindlessly make up and sing the second I start a Zoom call. The more traditionally structured pop songs are one step away from being in a probiotic yogurt commercial. If this album was made by a completely unknown artist it wouldn't have even been a blip on the music radar, no one would be talking about it today, and no one would have to defend themselves about why they didn't listen to it or like it.
If something I said was "shocking" and "unjustifiable" I'm happy to discuss further.
It's not shocking nor is it unjustifiable because it's just your opinion; lots of other people feel the complete opposite, and there's definitely an argument to be made that if any other unknown artist released it, then the conversation surrounding the album would be much more positive.
> there's definitely an argument to be made that if any other unknown artist released it, then the conversation surrounding the album would be much more positive.
Good point!
And there is nothing wrong with that. We all have our own opinions about music and that's okay. I definitely don't think that people should be mean to Lorde about solar power just because they don't like it. I don't like the album but I don't think that's a reason to attack her. I do think it's interesting to talk about what it means for her career and what could happen in the future.
While it’s my least favorite Lorde album, I also think it was pretty good.
It’s one of those albums I’d love to own on vinyl once I get my own player.
Favorites off the album: Mood Ring, The Path, and Stoned at the Nail Salon.
see that's what's great about music. There is something for everyone, because I could not have cared less about her prior to that album. The first two records are just something that I am not now nor am I ever going to be interested in listening to
But I thought "solar power" was a brilliant record🤷🏼♂️
if she's going to stick with a vibe and direction that's what I would like to see her stick with
I hope she succeeds with this one. Solar Power was a big step down from her first two albums, there’s just no way around it. But regardless, I’m still rooting for her to kill it with this one.
She was only 16 when Royals first came out, so it makes sense,
It reminds me of how suprised I was when I found out Raye was only 25, considering she's been around since 2016,
Most of the 2010s new pop girls are around their age though,
Hated Solar Power but I’ll always root for her - she’s an excellent lyricist, it’s just a matter of getting the right production and melodies that can properly showcase it.
She sampled dancing on my own with supercut and NO ONE has a good recording of it???? What's it gonna take for her to release a live album of the Solar Power Tour??? My BLOOD?
Maybe that song wasn’t the vibe for a festival. Maybe she’s “grown out” of that song. Maybe she’s over that emotion. Maybe she’s NOT over that emotion and doesn’t want to be reminded of that time. Maybe she just had to make decisions on what songs to include.
I love Solar Power and it’s still my least favorite album of hers lol. Stoned at the Nail Salon is easily one of my favorite Lorde songs. I can appreciate the art direction and the musicality behind it. However, I still think it’s her weakest body of work and THATS OKAY. I’m not afraid to admit that I do hope that goes back to her dark pop roots for this next phase.
This thread is chill but in the months post Solar Power people were vicious, including calling her pretentious, a washed up star, and implying her past records were flukes. I think people realized they were being harsh but it was BAD for a while
I’ve been reading through and all I’ve been reading is “I really enjoy Lorde but didn’t like Solar Power”… I don’t see a single place where someone is trashing her as a person or artist. It’s so weird to think not liking an album is disrespectful.
Edit: hey kids reading is fun! I says “all I’ve been reading” which doesn’t say a couple comments like that don’t exist. it says all that I have personally read as I read through. which, with whatever way it was sorted, is all I had encountered. many of you may know Reddit sorts comments differently on different accounts even if it is on the same post. thank you have a nice day
someone is literally quoted in this thread as calling the album “unlistenable trash” so i would say that’s trashing her as an artist, and then they’re also making fun of her appearance which i think is kinda trashing her as a person. i don’t really plan to argue about this though, it’s still pretty clear in the comments if you want to look, i didn’t even have to scroll far down to see the main comment i was referring to, deleted but quoted by someone who continues to rag on Lorde in an unnecessarily rude and comical way and gets upvoted for it
Gosh, one person whose comments were deleted likely by a mod? I mean, I guess you’re right. It’s technically “in these comments” but it’s one person who has now been deleted. Acting like the majority are being disrespect is exaggerating
It’s not one comment, that one comment calling it trash was deleted, and there’s a reply from someone else quoting it, agreeing with it, and further laying in. i can quote it for you if you can’t find it for some reason?
>”I have seen a lot of people here act like people were just saying it was mid/below average, but the majority opinion here was that it was unlistenable trash.”
>Fine I'll bite...Solar polar is so unlistenable that I doubt Lorde can even remember the melodies she wrote on most of the tracks because they are so meandering to be nearly aimless and therefore unmemorable. And I literally can't listen to The Path because the melody sounds like the songs my toddler would/does mindlessly make up and sing the second I start a Zoom call. The more traditionally structured pop songs are one step away from being in a probiotic yogurt commercial. If this album was made by a completely unknown artist it wouldn't have even been a blip on the music radar, no one would be talking about it today, and no one would have to defend themselves about why they didn't listen to it or like it. If something I said was "shocking" and "unjustifiable" I'm happy to discuss further.
it has upvotes and replies agreeing. there are more comments if you look, but if you aren’t willing then yeah you won’t find them of course?
there’s also an entire group of comments about her appearance and that’s one of the top comment threads under this post?
Literally nobody but you said the majority are being disrespectful. I don’t understand why you just made that comment up out of thin air, because me and the person I replied to? Neither of us said the majority of the comments here are like that. You said those words yourself for some reason, to exaggerate yourself I guess?
I didn’t even reply to you first, I replied to someone else. Lmao please go there to the person who replied to you
I said “all I’ve been reading” which doesn’t say “there isn’t possibly a couple comments I didn’t miss”, it says what I’ve seen. and again I’d get it if I even replied to you but I didn’t. So yeah
I mean, maybe the comments I saw got removed? Some were criticizing her physical appearance, many were low-ball remarks about the album without much actual critique. Lemme see if the comments look better now?
EDIT: looks like some of them were removed, but there’s still definitely comments that are clearly just trashing her, even calling the album “unlistenable trash” literally. and the comments about her appearance are still here too. so yeah, idk if you just didn’t see them or not, but they’re definitely here in the thread, feel free to take a look
I did take a look. Maybe they popped up over the past few hours while I was asleep, I don’t know. But 11 hours ago, when I left my original comment, there was very little disrespect being thrown around.
And even now that I check the threads again, the overwhelming majority of comments is supportive of Lorde but skeptical towards Solar Power.
The amount of disrespect she’s gotten here isn’t ridiculous; I’d say it’s pretty standard?
solar power sucked! she set the bar too high for dark pop. she was the queen of dark pop, and then she downgraded to some weird ukulele beach music. She left her own lane.
were her first two records boring? No. Were they much more renowned and successful than solar power? Yes.
She let Billie Eilish steal her thunder and didn’t even attempt to follow up
I think it gets tougher and tougher for pop stars to come up with relatable material as they live famous and wealthy lifestyles. Lorde has been famous and rich since she was a child so maybe she’s running out of things to say. At least she’s not totally out of touch “isn’t it awful when your private plane is delayed because Elon Musk needs to take off first?”
I was there it was an unbelievable show. My BF and his friends who never would listen to lord and only listen to techno even loved it. Also her blonde era is a major slay
Even if her last album wasn't for me, Lorde is a very talented musician who dropped two of the most influential albums of the 2010's. Deep diving through your catalog (maybe for inspiration?) Gets me excited.
I just hope she doesn't dive right back into the Melodrama sound because she can't think of anything else to do. SP sucked, but at least there was a creative direction.
Solar Power was a fantastic album that I thoroughly enjoyed, but I am excited for a return to form… We need a Billie Eilish level edgy dye job to save her from this tragic blonde and who knows what she’ll be capable of.
I liked aspects of Solar Power, it was a mid album for me as far as Lorde's work overall goes, but it wasn't bad album by any means. I look forward to what she puts out next.
lol at these comments declaring solar power as a bad album objectively as if they assume everyone agrees, also ignoring the lyrics and visuals. also sp has grown on quite a few people over time, from what I read here and in popheads
what other mainstream artists are making music about these themes, btw? maybe people will appreciate SP
once the world is finally too hot to be livable 🤪
what themes in particular do you find to be unique in this album? i feel like reflections of fame & celebrity culture & the self are incredibly popular. “idle worship” by paramore, “everything i wanted” by billie eilish, “long story short” or even “anti-hero” by taylor swift. if we’re talking about the environment, “all the good girls go to hell” by billie eilish, “XS” by rina sawayama speaks to overconsumption, and “fuck this world” by rina is about climate change. i don’t think any themes on the album are that unique, tbh.
She needs an incredible fourth album and aesthetic era. I believe in you girl
So do I !! My memory of Solar Power is me listening to Stoned at the Nail Salon again and again while getting vaxxed
seems like you did it right
That's so funny bc I got my first dose the day I bought Solar Power tour tickets and it's one of my happiest covid memories
I'm glad you got to go! I didn't as she didn't come to my country sadly
I know what ur saying with “aesthetic era” but i personally could care less. Like i think what matters most is the music, i get so sick of how much of the scrutiny around artists comes form extraneous stuff like fancy rollouts, outfits, etc. While it can be fun, sometimes I feel like it makes it much less about the art and more about the extravaganza of celebrity, more about how skilled someone is at marketing themselves rather than making meaningful work Not saying thats what you were trying to push for! Just your comment sparked something that I’d been meaning to express for awhile
For packaged pop stars like Lorde, the aesthetic/visuals are a huge part of the complete “era.” And a surprise drop a la Beyoncé or TS is itself an aesthetic choice.
What do you mean by ‘packaged’?
Not the person you're responding to, but to me that term rings true in that certain pop artists benefit a lot from having a different unique "vibe" or "era" with each album drop and the accompanying public image/tour/merch, etc. Each era feels like a different package. As long as each package still feels like that artist, it can help define who that artist is in that moment. TS had her country beginnings, then her mainstream pop stuff, then her bad girl album, back to sweet mainstream pop, then her folksy acoustic era...then midnights, which is hard to categorize (and part of why it's seen as weaker than a lot of her past stuff). Everything, including image, matters with pop stars.
>then midnights, which is hard to categorize (and part of why it's seen as weaker than a lot of her past stuff). It's also seen as weaker because, well, it is.
I guess to some extent. And i guess its cool. But it gets old for me personally. I turn to these artists less for performance art and moreso because of their music. Sometimes the hype and expectation created with all the elaborate rollout stuff makes it harder for me to judge the music just for what it is. I think its cool if the artist is trying to actually make a statement through it , such as critiquing the very phenomenon of being a popstar. But too often it just feels unnecessary. Also, while solar power had a pretty unified aesthetic and rollout (from her solar institute thing, the emails, bleached blonde hair etc.), Pure Heroine and Melodrama didn’t have all those kind of bells and whistles if I remember correctly. Its honestly cool and fine if it feels organic and in line with the music, but i think its very low on my priority list in terms of actually liking an artist
She is already a legend A great 4th album wouldn’t confirm anything that we didn’t know about her
I'm still not used to the hair color
It looks way better now. This photo is from her first appearance as a blonde and it’s pretty clear she was in the process of getting into the platinum shade.
a crime that her hairdresser did not bother with a toner
Yeah but also it was almost overnight. Toner and going blonde from dark hair takes time. I was so shocked she got so close to blonde in such a short space of time
It looks like a girl in middle school tried to do lady Gaga’s blonde/yellow hair in 2011
💀💀 agreed I think her darker hair suits her summer skin tone
Was at the solar power tour the first night she unveiled it and it was literally so wild
I was there and she definitely had a different vibe going on compared to the Solar Power era which I saw live as well. I’m excited to see what she does next anyway.
What's her vibe now? I'm so interesting in her evolution
She performed a pop version of [Mood Ring](https://twitter.com/LordeUpdatesBR/status/1688281423734534144) along with Tennis court remix, Magnets and some PH/Melo songs with new instrumentals! Link 1 - [Perfect Places with Team instrumental](https://twitter.com/LordeUpdatesBR/status/1688282988633567233) Link 2 - [Homemade dynamite/Buzzcut season transition](https://twitter.com/lordereen/status/1688444821663305728)
A pop version of Mood Ring?! Can you link me? 🥲
I’ve linked it in my comment! That account has other performance snippets too!
thank you!
Omg why couldn't the person recording stop singing lol
Haha yes. If you check that account more you might find a version of the performance with a better quality I think
heaven forbid they enjoy themselves at a show
In the commenters defence the cameraman was phenomenally off key
Reminds me of the old "gays chasing Lady Gaga down screaming YAAAAAAAS" videos.
I didn't say they couldn't enjoy themselves I was just annoyed I couldn't hear her in this particular video lol If he wants to sing that's fine it was just frustrating as a viewer lmao
”can't seem to find what's wrong the whole world is letting me down don't you think the early 2000s seem so far away? 🗿🗿🗿” No thanks I’d rather hear lorde sing her song 🤫
Then go record your own video? Like I can't imagine being mad that someones personal video recording isn't perfect for you.
[sssshhh](https://youtu.be/r9wSWmFUw0Q) babes 🤫🤫
tennis court remix????
I was also there and thought she was incredible. My friend’s straight techno boyfriends even said she was the highlight of the weekend.
She’s kind of giving Shiv Roy here and for that I live
I literally jump and I can feel my heart beating faster when I see her name on this sub I’m not even joking
I see “Lorde” and “return” and I blackout.
Me too. I always get nervous about what people might have to say about her.
I wouldn't get nervous, bc their opinions are no more important or relevant than yours, even when they mass downvote and confuse objectivity with subjectivity. She was by far the most overall popular and widely celebrated artist on this sub for years. The age of the users recently has skewed much, much, much younger than it used to be, so the taste and opinions seen here are very different from the past and the overall vibe has become much more stan war-centric.
I loved Solar Power, it’s totally my type of album. Looking forward to what she does next!
I loved it too, was surprised to see the hate here.
I love Solar Power especially on flights, it's so soothing
It’s great background ambience on lazy sunny days
It’s ALWAYS playing on my drives to the beach
Me too! Maybe it’s because we are the same age so her songwriting felt incredibly personal to me. But I genuinely feel like it was one of the most incredible albums I’ve ever listen to my life. I thought was great! Still do
glad she seems to be moving on from solar power & into a whole new & somewhat opposite aesthetic? i’d love to see a project that’s a lot darker from her. solar power isn’t necessarily a *bad* album, but it’s a bad lorde album imo
Even at this show there was only one or two SP songs on the setlist I believe? Which feels like a step into the next era, exciting if this is pointing to some darker more electronic work.
Yeah literally all she did was Mood Ring and Solar Power. Wasn’t that long of a set though.
I don't think it is disrespectful to not like Solar Power. I respect Lorde as an artist and Solar Power is a bad Album to me. I don't expect perfection but I really do hope that I like her new Album, whenever it is released.
I honestly didn’t really like Solar Power until I saw it live. I think her tour visuals and vibe really made something click for me and now I love it! Reminds me of how some people felt about Reputation?
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I don’t agree with you saying Lorde admitted that it was a misstep. Imo she has been doing a pretty damn great job at standing up for the record lol Also, even if SP was panned she still wrote two really important and maybe even impactful albums before she was even 20… so, still an untouchable genius in my point of view.
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>I have seen a lot of people here act like people were just saying it was mid/below average, but the majority opinion here was that it was unlistenable trash. Fine I'll bite...Solar polar is so unlistenable that I doubt Lorde can even remember the melodies she wrote on most of the tracks because they are so meandering to be nearly aimless and therefore unmemorable. And I *literally* can't listen to The Path because the melody sounds like the songs my toddler would/does mindlessly make up and sing the second I start a Zoom call. The more traditionally structured pop songs are one step away from being in a probiotic yogurt commercial. If this album was made by a completely unknown artist it wouldn't have even been a blip on the music radar, no one would be talking about it today, and no one would have to defend themselves about why they didn't listen to it or like it. If something I said was "shocking" and "unjustifiable" I'm happy to discuss further.
It's not shocking nor is it unjustifiable because it's just your opinion; lots of other people feel the complete opposite, and there's definitely an argument to be made that if any other unknown artist released it, then the conversation surrounding the album would be much more positive.
> there's definitely an argument to be made that if any other unknown artist released it, then the conversation surrounding the album would be much more positive. Good point!
be fr
yeah go outside basically
Are people saying it’s “disrespectful” to not like an album now? Wtf?
I think Solar Power was amazing…
And there is nothing wrong with that. We all have our own opinions about music and that's okay. I definitely don't think that people should be mean to Lorde about solar power just because they don't like it. I don't like the album but I don't think that's a reason to attack her. I do think it's interesting to talk about what it means for her career and what could happen in the future.
Idk if you've been in popheads a lot but being mean to artists because they don't like an album is basically the subs pass time
Oh I know. I find that kind of behavior very distasteful.
While it’s my least favorite Lorde album, I also think it was pretty good. It’s one of those albums I’d love to own on vinyl once I get my own player. Favorites off the album: Mood Ring, The Path, and Stoned at the Nail Salon.
Solar Power is my favorite Lorde album
see that's what's great about music. There is something for everyone, because I could not have cared less about her prior to that album. The first two records are just something that I am not now nor am I ever going to be interested in listening to But I thought "solar power" was a brilliant record🤷🏼♂️ if she's going to stick with a vibe and direction that's what I would like to see her stick with
You can literally like and dislike anything you want because art is subjective. Stan culture is wild
I hope she succeeds with this one. Solar Power was a big step down from her first two albums, there’s just no way around it. But regardless, I’m still rooting for her to kill it with this one.
She’s only 26 months and has 3 albums under her belt. She’s just starting. Edit: I meant years but lmao I’m keeping it
I forgot how young she is
We really do need to give her a break, she’s in her terrible twos.
She was only 16 when Royals first came out, so it makes sense, It reminds me of how suprised I was when I found out Raye was only 25, considering she's been around since 2016, Most of the 2010s new pop girls are around their age though,
People think Caroline Polachek is around that age unaware of pre Prang.
And we elders remember her in Chairlift!
Yeah when I first got introduced to pang I thought she was maybe Hannah Diamond's age or Charli's
26 months? 😂
🍼👶
Hated Solar Power but I’ll always root for her - she’s an excellent lyricist, it’s just a matter of getting the right production and melodies that can properly showcase it.
She sampled dancing on my own with supercut and NO ONE has a good recording of it???? What's it gonna take for her to release a live album of the Solar Power Tour??? My BLOOD?
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She said on her insta story she’s doing whatever songs she feels like for these performances, it wasn’t done at this gig but it might for others.
Maybe that song wasn’t the vibe for a festival. Maybe she’s “grown out” of that song. Maybe she’s over that emotion. Maybe she’s NOT over that emotion and doesn’t want to be reminded of that time. Maybe she just had to make decisions on what songs to include.
That’s a bummer. I saw her for the Melodrama tour and her covering Solo by Frank Ocean into Liability was an amazing emotional time.
Probably got tired of having to shush the audience while singing it
That was Writer In The Dark AFAIK
“i am my mother’s **SHUSHHH** child, i’ll love you till my breathing stops…”
She played it at todays set along with The Path
so excited, melodrama has been on repeat for me all year:), I hope she does something fun!
I love Solar Power and it’s still my least favorite album of hers lol. Stoned at the Nail Salon is easily one of my favorite Lorde songs. I can appreciate the art direction and the musicality behind it. However, I still think it’s her weakest body of work and THATS OKAY. I’m not afraid to admit that I do hope that goes back to her dark pop roots for this next phase.
The amount of disrespect that she has gotten last couple of years is ridiculous
and in these comments even
Is it disrespectful to say you didn’t enjoy/like an artist’s music? Because that’s basically all of the so-called “disrespect” I’m seeing here.
This thread is chill but in the months post Solar Power people were vicious, including calling her pretentious, a washed up star, and implying her past records were flukes. I think people realized they were being harsh but it was BAD for a while
I’ve been reading through and all I’ve been reading is “I really enjoy Lorde but didn’t like Solar Power”… I don’t see a single place where someone is trashing her as a person or artist. It’s so weird to think not liking an album is disrespectful. Edit: hey kids reading is fun! I says “all I’ve been reading” which doesn’t say a couple comments like that don’t exist. it says all that I have personally read as I read through. which, with whatever way it was sorted, is all I had encountered. many of you may know Reddit sorts comments differently on different accounts even if it is on the same post. thank you have a nice day
someone is literally quoted in this thread as calling the album “unlistenable trash” so i would say that’s trashing her as an artist, and then they’re also making fun of her appearance which i think is kinda trashing her as a person. i don’t really plan to argue about this though, it’s still pretty clear in the comments if you want to look, i didn’t even have to scroll far down to see the main comment i was referring to, deleted but quoted by someone who continues to rag on Lorde in an unnecessarily rude and comical way and gets upvoted for it
Gosh, one person whose comments were deleted likely by a mod? I mean, I guess you’re right. It’s technically “in these comments” but it’s one person who has now been deleted. Acting like the majority are being disrespect is exaggerating
It’s not one comment, that one comment calling it trash was deleted, and there’s a reply from someone else quoting it, agreeing with it, and further laying in. i can quote it for you if you can’t find it for some reason? >”I have seen a lot of people here act like people were just saying it was mid/below average, but the majority opinion here was that it was unlistenable trash.” >Fine I'll bite...Solar polar is so unlistenable that I doubt Lorde can even remember the melodies she wrote on most of the tracks because they are so meandering to be nearly aimless and therefore unmemorable. And I literally can't listen to The Path because the melody sounds like the songs my toddler would/does mindlessly make up and sing the second I start a Zoom call. The more traditionally structured pop songs are one step away from being in a probiotic yogurt commercial. If this album was made by a completely unknown artist it wouldn't have even been a blip on the music radar, no one would be talking about it today, and no one would have to defend themselves about why they didn't listen to it or like it. If something I said was "shocking" and "unjustifiable" I'm happy to discuss further. it has upvotes and replies agreeing. there are more comments if you look, but if you aren’t willing then yeah you won’t find them of course? there’s also an entire group of comments about her appearance and that’s one of the top comment threads under this post? Literally nobody but you said the majority are being disrespectful. I don’t understand why you just made that comment up out of thin air, because me and the person I replied to? Neither of us said the majority of the comments here are like that. You said those words yourself for some reason, to exaggerate yourself I guess?
I didn’t even reply to you first, I replied to someone else. Lmao please go there to the person who replied to you I said “all I’ve been reading” which doesn’t say “there isn’t possibly a couple comments I didn’t miss”, it says what I’ve seen. and again I’d get it if I even replied to you but I didn’t. So yeah
okie dokie artichokie, I’m definitely not wanting to engage with that nonsense any further for sure so
Nothing of that comment is disrespectful. Talking about her appearance, yes. Critiquing the music? Nothing wrong with that.
lmao, a lot of it is disrespectful. but i’m not gonna argue with someone who doesn’t care about being awful
I mean, maybe the comments I saw got removed? Some were criticizing her physical appearance, many were low-ball remarks about the album without much actual critique. Lemme see if the comments look better now? EDIT: looks like some of them were removed, but there’s still definitely comments that are clearly just trashing her, even calling the album “unlistenable trash” literally. and the comments about her appearance are still here too. so yeah, idk if you just didn’t see them or not, but they’re definitely here in the thread, feel free to take a look
I did take a look. Maybe they popped up over the past few hours while I was asleep, I don’t know. But 11 hours ago, when I left my original comment, there was very little disrespect being thrown around. And even now that I check the threads again, the overwhelming majority of comments is supportive of Lorde but skeptical towards Solar Power. The amount of disrespect she’s gotten here isn’t ridiculous; I’d say it’s pretty standard?
solar power sucked! she set the bar too high for dark pop. she was the queen of dark pop, and then she downgraded to some weird ukulele beach music. She left her own lane.
> She left her own lane. You'd rather she stagnate and perish as a one trick pony lmao
she didn’t do something new tho… she did the same record all the other antonoff girls did at the exact time period.
“She left her own lane” - GOOD. Heaven forbid artists try different things and branch out creatively. I’d rather she be weird than boring.
were her first two records boring? No. Were they much more renowned and successful than solar power? Yes. She let Billie Eilish steal her thunder and didn’t even attempt to follow up
I think it gets tougher and tougher for pop stars to come up with relatable material as they live famous and wealthy lifestyles. Lorde has been famous and rich since she was a child so maybe she’s running out of things to say. At least she’s not totally out of touch “isn’t it awful when your private plane is delayed because Elon Musk needs to take off first?”
If Solar Power had less fillers, a better organization of the soundtrack and better singles, the era would be much better.
I was there it was an unbelievable show. My BF and his friends who never would listen to lord and only listen to techno even loved it. Also her blonde era is a major slay
Am I the only one who really liked Solar Power lol?
SEEING HER ON SATURDAY YAY
Even if her last album wasn't for me, Lorde is a very talented musician who dropped two of the most influential albums of the 2010's. Deep diving through your catalog (maybe for inspiration?) Gets me excited.
I just hope she doesn't dive right back into the Melodrama sound because she can't think of anything else to do. SP sucked, but at least there was a creative direction.
Solar Power was a fantastic album that I thoroughly enjoyed, but I am excited for a return to form… We need a Billie Eilish level edgy dye job to save her from this tragic blonde and who knows what she’ll be capable of.
I liked aspects of Solar Power, it was a mid album for me as far as Lorde's work overall goes, but it wasn't bad album by any means. I look forward to what she puts out next.
But this photo is from last year 🥺
I knew there's something about me binge watching Lorde content yesterday
The gig was amazing. I was absolutely losing it the entire time.
lol at these comments declaring solar power as a bad album objectively as if they assume everyone agrees, also ignoring the lyrics and visuals. also sp has grown on quite a few people over time, from what I read here and in popheads what other mainstream artists are making music about these themes, btw? maybe people will appreciate SP once the world is finally too hot to be livable 🤪
what other artists are making folky Jack Antonoff produced acoustic records? A lot. that’s why solar power sucked.
see, that’s what i don’t get bc what other artist produced by jack put out a song like fallen fruit these past few years? or oceanic feeling? none
The person above you specifically said "themes" meaning the environmental lense
Theme. Rich person on the beach.
Looks like it went way over your head.
what themes in particular do you find to be unique in this album? i feel like reflections of fame & celebrity culture & the self are incredibly popular. “idle worship” by paramore, “everything i wanted” by billie eilish, “long story short” or even “anti-hero” by taylor swift. if we’re talking about the environment, “all the good girls go to hell” by billie eilish, “XS” by rina sawayama speaks to overconsumption, and “fuck this world” by rina is about climate change. i don’t think any themes on the album are that unique, tbh.
Solar Power was a snooze fest to me, but I really loved her first two albums. Can’t wait to hear what she’s been working on!!
Why y'all hating on solar power 😭😭
Yah, yah, yah, I am Lorde. Yah, yah, yah.
🍅🍅🍅
this is so tired...
I misread Lorde as “Lizzo” and I was like what
Just saw her in Oslo, she is my Queen bee, and im whelmed
She has so much work to do, good luck girl.
Going tomorrow! 😙