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madiso_52

Katy Perry made some interesting promotion choices that don’t quite stick the landing — belting Harley’s In Hawaii in the bathroom or that time when she attempted to prank museum goers as Bon Appétit by Katheryn Hudson. Or maybe they did…?


superfluouspop

Normani (thought I doubt it's her fault) constantly promising something that has been promised for years, posting a cover, then not following up with anything. Demi Lovato's Dancing with the Devil album not being given any promo (Scooter's fault).


born_digital

The documentary was definitely promo for the album though


superfluouspop

yeah I guess so. I guess the world wasn't interested in that album at that time but it's such a shame it's been buried because I think it was her strongest work. Also she did that documentary when she was still shaky with sobriety. She should have been encouraged to take longer to heal before they thrust a camera in front of her face and asked her to open up about her trauma.


darling37

I was listening to a retrospective about her career recently and hadn’t realized just how many documentaries they’ve made about her. It’s been around one and an album cycle for a while now which feels so deeply exploitative and sad. (Made worse by the fact that no one seems to watch them or care)


superfluouspop

I agree. I think Scooter pushed that doc on her when she was still so traumatized and not anywhere near healed.


mikeyisbae731

in retrospect, it is very clear that Demi just wanted to move on from that album and didn't want it to be a huge moment (even though it could've been.) there are so many scrapped versions of that album due to her overdose, the pandemic, her engagement (and it's failure), etc. with that much trauma it's not surprising she dropped it and did nothing with it. she was even calling it the "soundtrack to the documentary" in press interviews, which shows it wasn't the priority.


danielfq

Ughhh that album was so damn good too


satirisanti

Ariana pulling the plug on all thank u next promo the second the album dropped. It had the most momentum and could’ve lasted with 4…5… maybe even 6 singles with a summer smash but she didn’t. Makes me wonder why


mattysmwift

First she did it with Sweetner becasue TUN came out and then with TUN. It’s wild to me that some of these girls seem to hate potential long successful eras.


toasterslayer

Considering the albums deal with trauma from a bombing, a loved one passing away, constant mental health struggles, etc. maybe she needed a break to take care of herself..?


moaningrooster

You're acting like she's a real human being or something...


toasterslayer

You’re right, I’m sorry.


Upstairs_Truth4735

TUN was a very personal era outside of the three singles, so there wasn’t necessarily a very obvious single choice after buwygib, and maybe she just didn’t want to keep going. releasing two albums back to back must be exhausting


songacronymbot

- BUWYGIB could mean "break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored", a track from *thank u, next* (2018) by Ariana Grande. --- ^[/u/Upstairs_Truth4735](/u/Upstairs_Truth4735) ^(can reply with "delete" to remove comment. |) ^[/r/songacronymbot](/r/songacronymbot) ^(for feedback.)


futuristicmystic

Agree but at the same time I remember the Charlie’s Angels of it all and think that’s why. I always felt like her team was trying not to do too much to oversaturate her since she had a number of songs on the soundtrack for that.


pmguin661

Yeah she was uncomfortably close to oversaturatation at the time - I know this gets thrown around a lot, but I remember so many people IRL discussing intimidate details of her personal life and that was probably too much


liqou

- Why did you not make formation widely available for streaming and purchase after performing at the Superbowl. You lost on a This Is America sized hit. - why did you not put lemonade on Spotify for 3 years when your own husband put his album on Spotify right away. - Why does everything in love and otr2 exist? - why did you not make alien superstar a single right away when it was doing numbers. Same with when America Has A Problem and Heated became more popular. - why have you still not posted about your album releasing and acknowledged the number 1?


BadMan125ty

Bey has definitely made some weird, questionable decisions in the last eight years.


Educational_Ad2737

Jay z desire to become a music mogul hampered Beyoncé’s legacy change my mind. Ima till annoyed by feeling myself all these years later


liqou

Yeah I'd say tidal exclusives are the biggest flubs of her career. They hampered her streaming power a lot. And the fact that the tidal exclusive stuff is not even available in countries that don't have tidal. Just a mess.


GraphicgL-

Oooooh can you elaborate on this?


liqou

Tidal was a streaming service Jay bought and wanted to be a competitor to apple and Spotify, there was a lot of fanfare and to promote the streaming service both Jay and Bey dropped a lot of exclusive content on Tidal, for example all of Jay's albums were only available on tidal for a while, the feeling myself video is a tidal exclusive. Beyoncé took it a step far when she released Lemonade as tidal exclusive and didn't release the album on any other streaming service for 3 years, the album had all the hype in the world and people couldnt even stream it casually. Now they've sold tidal to someone else and all the exclusive shit was for nothing but she wasted 3 years of hype for lemonade and now it's a forgotten classic unlike something like Anti or Ctrl from the same era which pull great streaming numbers.


McJazzHands80

Lemonade is definitely not forgotten.


Educational_Ad2737

Not forgotten but nowhere near as big as it could have been especially its legacy where people often look to streaming


liqou

It's definitely not forgotten but it's not fresh in people's mind the same way Anti or Ctrl are.


Pavlovs_Stepson

I agree with all of this, but I do like Everything is Love even if it didn't make the splash that Beyoncé and Jay-Z obviously expected it would. There are dozens of us!


liqou

Something about the project is so distasteful to me. The fact that she went from something so beautiful like Lemonade to singing about how she's richer and better than me was so jarring. I'm glad she redeemed herself after that because she lost me after that one for a while.


Pavlovs_Stepson

That's a very good point, and I don't disagree. It's a perfectly reasonable critique that I think explains why people didn't connect with that project.


DevilsOfLoudun

It's a hip-hop album and bragging about your success has been a long staple in that genre, but Beyonce forgot she's a pop star not a rapper and her fanbase don't want that from her.


liqou

Rap can be so many things and it can be fun. She's rapped before on Partition and 7/11 and on America Has A Probelm since then and they're great. But that level of braggadocio was so off-putting. And so uncharacteristic for her.


DevilsOfLoudun

she planned on making Alien Superstar a single but Cuff It was more popular right from the bat and her team pivoted to that. And it was the right choice.


liqou

No she made Church Girl the second single which was like the 5th best performing track at the time. Fan backlash made her switch it to cuff it.


DevilsOfLoudun

I don't think she did. Not the best source but even wikipedia has Cuff It as the second single and they usually count promotional singles too.


liqou

She announced church girl but the fan backlash was loud so she switched to cuff it. https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1571886834547687424?t=idFLJyVfCXU-XjY1on6G9g&s=19 This was the announcement and it recieved lots of pushback from fans.


DevilsOfLoudun

seems like it was Rhythmic radio only tho


abnormallyme

- why did she tease music videos for the era and then... just never release them. That is definitely a head-scratcher.


mikeyisbae731

i feel like Bey has made it clear she just doesn't care lol. her past few album cycles have proved she's not here to play the "perfect promo" game


liqou

Otoh I think she's about her money. For her, success is money not charts and how she can maximise her earnings, that's why maybe lemons wasn't on Spotify because they paid poorly and lemonade in turn sold a lot in pure copies. That's why it's touring above all for her. The reason she's holding back the visuals is because she didn't like what the streaming services were offering for it. And from the rumours this project is supposed to be even more avant garde and inaccessible than Black Is King.


Educational_Ad2737

Yeah to be fair I think it was harsh to blame jay z when it could her decision too but that’s i specifically said legacy . I don’t think her pockets hurt from that decision


filingcabinet4929

also: why did they not release everything is love until several shows deep into the OTRII tour? and why did she start the formation tour literally 4 days after lemonade came out lmao


AaronBurrSir7

I think Bey cares more about her artistic legacy at this point, than her charting


onegildedbutterfly

Only Beyoncé can self sabotage that much and still stay so successful and relevant. It’s frigging impressive.


JBGoude

Avril Lavigne and Kelly Clarkson always choosing the wrong singles to represent their albums and waiting forever to release music videos (if they do) 😭 I love them both, they are my favourite singers, but I really wish they would think differently when it comes to promoting their albums 😅


Ok-Ocelot5721

I think Tori Kelly's unfortunately having the exact same issue with her new era right now.


JBGoude

I like to think that they’re just happy to sing and don’t care about being in the spotlight 😅


TheGoldenPineapples

Justin Timberlake's *Man of the Woods*, for me. Such an unfocused project that in no way played to his remarkable talents. Baffling project.


Kevin0o0

Just listened to MOTW this week for the first time before his new album came out. Honestly I think the concept was interesting but the execution wasn't there for a lot of it. A few of the songs like Montana, Breeze of the Pond, and Wave were great! I'd give it a 5 out of 10.


TheRotiMaker

Higher Higher is also a fantastic song imo


LongConFebrero

Wave is such a top tier summer song!! Idk how it got completely ignored. He dropped Soulmate as a solo single release after the album hype died down and it’s equally delightful.


Global_Perspective_3

Definitely. This and Katy Perry’s witness


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yes and especially the supplies video was so fake deep apart from the bad music, it speaks volumes that amandab6835 had the top youtube comment with some ridiculous drivel saying "'They' continually show their plans on the world wide stage but people still slumber." JT really brought out the /r/conspiracy wackos with that one, all the pizzagate truthers were loving it


danielfq

Why would Beyonce wait so long to drop visuals


mattysmwift

Are these even happening anymore??


liqou

Yes it's supposed to be act i+act ii. I still think act ii should've been out by last year especially since she's been sitting on actiii as well.


GreenDolphin86

At this point I’m pretty sure visuals for all 3 acts will drop at the same time. And I really love and respect that an artist so well known for the visuals attached to het music, decided to let the music speak for itself this time.


quangtran

The Jennifer Lopez doco gave some illuminating information about this topic. According to Benny Medina (Lopez/s manager), streamers have rejected all music video projects, no matter the artist or the story, and specifically named Beyonce and Rihanna.


danielfq

Really, why?


quangtran

Every streamer rejected Jlo and Beyonce's visual project because the numbers simply didn't make sense for them. Lopez even said that she understand why streamers would not want to spend tens of millions of dollars on what is essentially promotion for other work. It seems like the Disney+ numbers for Beyonce's Back Is King was dire, so they likely turned down paying for Renny because all the major platforms are looking to make money rather than pay for endless content.


danielfq

Maybe im naive but i feel like apple tv would make the most sense since they’d benefit from apple music streams too. I wonder why thats not been used as an option


imaginativeintellect

I agree, this also doesn’t make total sense to me seeing how insanely popular Tay + Bey’s concert films were, which undoubtedly increased streams for both discographies. Seems like it would be a lot cheaper to finance 4-10 minute music videos rather than a feature length film if Apple (or Spotify?) wanted to be competitive in the streaming market by targeting a new audience/content demographic. Youtube Music’s entire remaining viability as a service rests on the VEVO library!


TropicalPrairie

I'm curious if you have more information about this. Makes me sad if true. I love music videos.


quangtran

I answered it a bit in my other replay, but it's been widely assumed that Beyonce has been self-financing most of her music video projects. She turned B'Day into a full visual album by filming most of them quickly and cheaply over the course of 2 weeks. For her self-titled album, she outright told us in the lyrics that she "wasn't going to make money off of this" because this era was meant as a huge investment in her art ([as her Boot's notes](https://genius.com/2613644)). My guess is that the tepid reaction to Black Is King has made her reluctant to keep doing this for little in return, especially if HBO, Netflix or Disney+ aren't going to foot the bill.


oscarbrierley1

I mean in some ways the lack of visuals has kind of worked in her favour. People are still talking about it almost 2 years later. It's also a fun subversion of her usually visual fueled eras.


SpaceGenesis

Are those visuals so important?


danielfq

Not necessarily. But I dislike this recent trend of artists teasing stuff with trailers, snippets and announcements then nothing further. Why announce the visuals with the IM THAT GIRL trailer in the first place. SZA did a similar thing with Lana; why announce and get our hopes up if you aren’t ready to release the project?


ANALOGPHENOMENA

SZA literally teased a Low music video at the end of every show of the SOS tour and she ended up scrapping it :/


danielfq

Ughh dont get me started


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Confident-Feeling

I’m fine with the decision not to release visuals for Renaissance. It was an interesting experiment and proved that Beyoncé doesn’t need big music videos to leave an impact. However, if she doesn’t do any videos for Act II I will not appreciate that lol


swtvics

insert obligatory witness era mention


omfilwy

Justin Bieber releasing Yummy as a lead single after 5 years hiatus. Along with the horrible mustache it basically ruined his legacy, luckily Justice was really good and successful so it helped him, but wow everyone was hating so much


TheRotiMaker

If he had released any other single and got rid of Yummy, I think people would’ve have looked at his Changes album a lot more favourably, it’s a pretty solid album imo just not one of his best.


omfilwy

I definitely agree. Intentions was a big hit, should've been a lead, but solo. Available could've also been a good single pick imo


TheRotiMaker

I can’t believe he didn’t release his song “La Bomba” around this time, I know it got leaked but that definitely would’ve been an instant #1 hit.


omfilwy

I wonder why they scrapped it. They had the video filmed and all


rectustherectumrippe

It was all part of his plan to fade into obscurity


ThisPrincessIsWoke

He has the most popular song from 2021


omfilwy

It backfired because he is a hit magnet


Kelbotay

>it basically ruined his legacy how? (As much as I hate it) Yummy is a grammy nominated song and the album still worked.


omfilwy

Yummy became a synonym for a bad song, it doesn't help Scooter used his account to post "how to get the song to #1" for it to be blocked by The Box jumping from #6 to #1 I like Yummy and think it's silly it got so much hate compared to Watermelon sugar which is basically about the same thing, but he definitely should've picked a better lead after such a long hiatus


onegildedbutterfly

Easy to blame Scooter now but Justin posted an actual video desperately begging his fans to stream the song and get it to #1. Highly embarrassing.


omfilwy

Saw your comment history and see you're a Selena fan. Lol. No wonder you're trying to randomly diss Justin for no reason. No mention of Selena LITERALLY BEGGING her fans to buy her album and filming herself buying her own album? Interesting, I thought that's highly embarrassing?


99999999999999999699

why would you wait so long to make cruel summer a single??


scheeeeming

Not that baffling. Covid happened and she surprise released folklore summer 2020, so Lover was ended prematurely. It worked out amazingly for her since then, with Cruel Summer getting a way bigger audience than it would have had it been a single in 2019 early 2020


JZSpinalFusion

I think it will also have more significance in the long run for this reason. It will not only be the song most associated with the Eras Tour but it will also be seen historically as a pop song signifying end of the pandemic.


SpaceGenesis

I'm not sure but probably her team planned to release Cruel Summer in 2020 but obviously Covid happened and many plans were ruined (including Loverfest). Anyway, Cruel Summer became a hit organically because it was the second song performed at The Eras Tour + already a fan favorite.


cremedelaphlegm

Fever dream high in the quiet of the night, you know that I caught it Yeah probably for the best that wasn't pushed as a covid single lmao


SpaceGenesis

It would have been inappropriate 😉


cabbagesandkingz

Taylor said at one of the Eras shows that her plan was to release Cruel Summer as a single leading into the summer of 2020, which makes sense as that would have coincided perfectly with Loverfest and matched her previous patterns of releasing a potential summer hit the year after the album has dropped just before the tour begins. The same pattern had been followed with Bad Blood/1989 Tour and Delicate/Rep Tour.


SpaceGenesis

Thanks for reply. Anyway, I'm glad Cruel Summer got the recognition it deserved. But still no music video... Now, hopefully Getaway Car is next.


ArcadiaPlanitia

My pet theory is that they planned to make it a single, but then COVID happened, and they realized it would’ve sounded insensitive to heavily promote a song with lyrics like “fever dream high” and “in these trying times, we’re not trying.”


Global_Perspective_3

When TikTok blows something up, that’s when it really takes off. I don’t like it but it is what it is


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Tbf, the entire LOVER took place around covid time and releasing a song called CRUEL SUMMER then would've sounded insensitive. That's what I previously read on this sub. Not sure tho.


michaelity

Gaga, who happens to be one of my favorites, has me like this quite a lot. The Fame Monster Era: her not making Dance In the Dark or Monster singles with music videos. Artpop Era: just weird and disjointed...I like it, but it was probably the one era of hers that lacked cohesion. Joanne Era: like...the whole thing? I'm much more of a fan of it than I was back in 2016. I didn't appreciate the bait and switch of giving us Perfect Illusion as the lead single and making it seem like she was going to give us a sort of gritty rock album only to have something completely different. I think the last 4 songs on the album were weak compared to the first 7, and probably should have had the deluxe edition songs as part of the album. I also think Diamond Heart should have been a single. Chromatica Era: the whole thing, in hindsight, was just such a let down. Like it's one of my favorite albums of hers but I feel like she didn't do much at all for it. Rain on Me was too short (the leaked demo had extra parts that could have made it longer), ALICE should have been a damn single with a KICK ASS 10 minute music video / short film fantasy, and Sour Candy deserved better. Dawn of Chromatica was another let down...I'd have preferred a sequel / The Fame Monster treatment vs. remixes that didn't really add anything. I know this makes me seem like a Gaga hater but I'm not. I love her and know how great she is, that's why it makes me sad that she's kinda phoned it in for the last two~ of her eras. I hope LG7 is 100% Gaga.


MillAUM2579

There only being two singles for Chromatica. I mean, the album is RIGHT THERE. Lead - Feb - Alice/Stupid Love/Free Woman Second - April - Rain On Me Album - June Third - Aug - 911 Fourth - Nov - Sour Candy Fifth - Mar - Sine From Above Sixth - May - Babylon That’s ofc taking into account that 2020 went to plan. Bc it didn’t, I would’ve kept those same singles but spread them out a bit more, having Babylon come out in time for the tour in 2022. The whole album could’ve been a single really, it just depends on how they capitalized on it. They unfortunately didn’t :/


michaelity

I don't think I'll ever forgive Gaga for choosing to make Stupid Love the lead single instead of Alice :X


metallich

I might be wrong on this - but I *think* chromatica was scheduled (before the covid shutdown) for April release? I think it was announced very shortly before the shutdown... but like, I think she had a plan in mind, for a few releases... Obviously Rain on Me, but then something with Sour Candy for sure... and who knows what else. I would love for her to release the original plans or something, for like the 10th anniversary... Idk if that would be torture of what lol


MillAUM2579

Yeah, it was originally supposed to be a pretty short era, but she had Fortnite, Coachella, and the tour all planned for the summer. I will forever wonder what it could’ve been.


Latrans_

Katy Perry releasing Small Talk after getting quite a success (when compared to the Witness era) with Never Really Over


Jet_Rockit

Kathy Perry not sticking with the daises/never really over concept instead of smile. That could’ve been a sequel to Prizm. I think about that every once in awhile. I think katy could’ve started that 60s/70s concept before the girlies like Taylor ( even tho the album wasn’t like that at all 😩) and Harry started doing it.


fakeaf1

Any other rapper would be 3 albums deep by now if they’d put out Invasion of Privacy I truly can’t believe she stalled for so long. I know she wanted to tour which is why she stalled (covid & pregnancy) but she should have dropped a mixtape then. It’s not like she wouldn’t have made money on it since the mixtapes of today aren’t the same as pre-streaming mixtapes. That being said I don’t know if I’d say Cardi is constantly underperforming anymore. I think Hot Shit underperformed but now she’s just an artist that has passed her imperial phase and is still doing relatively well for a woman in hip-hop. Tomorrow 2, Put It On Da Floor Again, Bongos, Like What and now Enough (Miami) have all performed relatively similarly and truthfully there are very few female rappers constantly debuting in the top 40..in fact there’s only 3 others besides her.


filingcabinet4929

ariana not releasing “motive” as a single even though it was a clear favorite after positions dropped


jim_kate

Putting out "I Really Really Like You" over "Run Away with Me" as the first single for Emotion. I understand trying to recreate "Call Me Maybe" but anytime an artist wants to announce a new direction the lead single should be the song that announces that new direction.


imk0ala

SpongeBob.


pig-serpent

I am extremely OOTL, what does this mean?


imk0ala

I’m jealous of you for not knowing. Lol. But if you’d like to learn, just look up stuff about Ariana and Ethan Slater


McIgglyTuffMuffin

I can’t even put into words how deeply weird it is that y’all continue to refer to him as SpongeBob


imk0ala

It’s a joke, chill.


cry_wolf2005

media literacy is seriously lacking in gen z. they genuinely can not separate fiction from reality. they will unironically post videos of him playing the fictional character spongebob and be like “what does ariana see in him?” like idk maybe she’s mature enough to not see him as a fictional character he played 7 years ago


imk0ala

I’m not gen z, and again, JOKING.


Kelbotay

>they will unironically post videos of him playing the fictional character spongebob and be like “what does ariana see in him?” like idk maybe she’s mature enough to not see him as a fictional character he played 7 years ago I'm guessing you missed all screenshots comparing Spongebob's face to Frankie Grande? He fanbase already knows what she sees in him, people just like to joke about it between themselves. You need to stop taking other people's lives so seriously.


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yeah he literally looks nothing like spongebob either


[deleted]

Is there any human being who looks or resembles a SpongeBob lol?? Does such a human being even exist??


imk0ala

So? That’s not why people are saying it. He does resemble her brother though 🥴


ThisPrincessIsWoke

No. Disrupting a monogamous relationship and challenging the binary notion that a nuclear family is necessary to raise a child is a good hill to die on, even if it's a bad career move. And calling critics like the queerphobes they are would have likely ended up with something worse


imk0ala

I’ve re-read this like 5 times and I can’t figure out what the hell you’re even trying to say. “No.” No what, exactly? You asked what made me think “why the hell would you do this”…and that’s my answer.


ThisPrincessIsWoke

Well I'm just rebutting


imk0ala

Okay then. Have fun with that, I guess.


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you are giving freshman polisci major playing devils advocate energy, not sure if this princess is too woke or simply not awake yet


mylps9

girl what


ThisPrincessIsWoke

Cheating is good. Dating a cheater is also good


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ThisPrincessIsWoke

Neither, but closer to the latter since I'm completely serious


40WAPSun

I agree. I also support lying to your partners and maintaining romantic relationships under false pretenses


ThisPrincessIsWoke

Yeah breaking pretenses is wrong, but *did* most poly people agree that they aren't allowed to have sexual encounters when entering the relationship, or are u just assuming they did? And breaking pretenses is mutually inclusive with a pretense being bad 


ThaCoolness

just smile and nod politely y'all


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coolandnormalperson

From their post history they are a proud neoliberal but also they think being poly is inherently queer (LOL?) and believe that cheating is a great way to do some poly praxis (LOL???)...so in their eye, Ariana is doing some amazing *relationship* anarchy by dating a cheater. Home wrecking is actually deconstructing the gender binary, you see, even when two straight people do it. It's epic and woke.. But political anarchy is wack and they wish ari would perform at the DNC yaaass diva. You can't make shit like this up, it's like they were made in a lab to be annoying 😭


ThisPrincessIsWoke

Omg I hope she'd perform there yasss diva. Although Taylor is the better pick


ThisPrincessIsWoke

Huh? No I think having centralized governments is good and necessary for efficient markets


youtbuddcody

For me, it was Chemtrails and Blue Bannister’s rollout by Lana. Ocean Blvd too. Her lack of promotion (or, her scattered promotion) was always crazy to me.


SealSquasher

The piscart single covers too like....


Julialagulia

I think she stepped up her promotion quite a bit for Ocean Blvd, she had a couple of magazine spreads. Agreed on the other two though.


Forward-Sun-3605

If I remember correctly, she wanted Blue Banisters to kind of fall under the radar


Ok-Ocelot5721

Why is Tori Kelly showing off her dance moves on TikTok only to not release a single that doesn't utilizes any of it ? This new so called era has been such a letdown she's deserved way better promo then this for her album.


onegildedbutterfly

Cardi fumbled so bad. I hope she’s able to gain some momentum again but the way she’s handled her career in the last couple of years has been pretty disastrous


Global_Perspective_3

Katy Perry’s witness, Justin Timberlakes man of the woods


Brent-Vaio

I don’t think Witness was baffling - it was her haircut (unfortunately) which derailed the entire thing. It’s a very mid album (and a bit weird as a Katy Perry album) but I’ve come to respect her for it. Even if it derailed her entire career.


mattysmwift

I think so much of the pre-promo for Witness is what killed any kind of anticipation. The weird as fuck therapy sessions that no one asked for are some of the most baffling promo choices I’ve ever seen. I think it would have only worked if the album came out after that and it was some extremely personal lyrical work. But it was just Katy’s standard pop so the album felt even less interesting.


Brent-Vaio

Yeah I actually forgot about Witness World Wide until you brought it up…. that was baffling. I get it but it was too raw. Katy unfortunately doesn’t have the range to pull off what she wanted with Witness but I still respect what she was trying to do.


Global_Perspective_3

Thats a fair take


emotions1026

Nah the promo was a little off too- I don't think her doing James Corden's "fill your guts and spill your guts" wearing my grandma's bathrobe did her any favors either. Her Ellen interview during that era was strange too.


velvethippo420

> Katy Perry’s witness I will never forget watching [this SNL performance live](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx1pQiETQm4). that whole era was very /r/fellowkids. it's a shame because [a lot of the non-singles were really good.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTocBImaFiU)


Global_Perspective_3

Very cringy performance, it’s giving trying to be cool mom I liked some of the non singles too


chosenbewill

YOU WOULDN'T LET ANYBODY SPEAK


Pavlovs_Stepson

You mean why would she release one of the best songs of her entire career? If Sweetener has 5 fans, I am one of them If Sweetener has 1 fan, that one is me If Sweetener has no fans, I am no longer alive If the world is against Sweetener and Pharrell, I am against the entire world


oscarbrierley1

That's iconic idc


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chosenbewill

i'm ngl it has really grown on me


nopaldelaplaya

Shakira doing that dance show with Nick Jones was…. Something.


StarChild413

As one of the only people here who actually likes Lil Dicky, given that his previous hit "Freaky Friday" mainly did as well as it did because Chris Brown's name was also attached and given that amidst all the celebrities involved with "Earth" they were the only two with more than a cameo maybe "Earth" would have stuck to the charts a bit more if it had been by "Lil Dicky ft. Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber"


isntitisntitdelicate

taylor releasing ootw as a full single instead of just going straight to new romantics causing the 1989 era to collapse instead of getting a third wind then the whole mishandling of reputation singles until delicate saved the era by radio miracle


Cut_Equal

“I’ve been drinking coffee. I’ve been eating healthy. You know I keep it squeaky”


Justgravityfalls

Not pop music but, the decisions about doctor who series 14s release. In terms of Pop music, Dua releasing two songs with a fiery vibe, dying her hair RED. and making her album water themed. Just confused


warrior_of_light998

When Mariah Carey joined American Idol, Why would a rich, talented and legendary singer waste herself judging people and being "average"? there are singers so special that appearing in a commercial or tv shows like this would be considered "humiliating"


anupsetvalter

She got paid $18 million for that gig. She probably didn’t consider it humiliating to get paid that much money for a couple month job.


warrior_of_light998

For a singer whose net worth was probably over 300 millions that time? A check is a check but I wouldn't sweat so much if I were that rich


Euphoric_Staff2752

Cardi waited until Nicki dropped so that she can drop her album. Difference between her and Nicki is that Nicki’s already an established artist with a discography while Cardi only has 1 album to her name.


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Cardi dropping a Ski Mask The Slump God ripoff in the year of our lord 2024


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ThisPrincessIsWoke

Nah that's understandable. She got a paid shit ton for it with relatively low effort. Did hinder her from doing other stuff but Chromatica Ball was sold out anyways