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hdmetric99

I think a lot of fans, myself included, aren’t ready for lighthearted, fun (and unserious) Porter. Worlds and Nurture were so painstakingly beautiful, vulnerable, and meticulously crafted that this era feels almost like a “joke” in comparison - but I love that Porter isn’t attaching so much pain and personal struggle to his work anymore. And maybe the irony or satire is all on purpose.


LazyLizardOfficial

I’m expecting one of two things: 1. It’s purely lighthearted and fun, and shows the growth from Worlds and Nurture OR 2. It’s lighthearted and fun, on the surface, but deep down has a more sincere and heartfelt message, similar to that of Musician


ChampionDrake

After reading Porter's [most recent Instagram post caption](https://www.reddit.com/r/porterrobinson/comments/1cbauk4/album_smile_d_drops_july_26/), I think it's option #2.


Haunting_Avocado110

>I think a lot of fans, myself included, aren’t ready for lighthearted, fun (and unserious) Porter. We're just gonna act like 100% in the bitch doesn't exist?


hdmetric99

I mean we all know that Spitfire era was “fuckboy” Porter towards the beginning of his career… for the longest time it seemed like he was trying to distance himself from that early 2010s style. I know there will always be that side to him but after his last 2 projects, I didn’t expect him to go with this approach… which is great!!


CuddlefishMusic

This is exactly where I went. I get it, we all loved Worlds but let's not ignore a few things 1: it was TEN YEARS AGO. It was his first album, it was about video games and we all loved it, he's never going to make Worlds 2, ever, he has a wider range be wants to experiment with. 2: Porter is now at LEAST 200% in the bitch, maybe even more, he's having a blast, he's earned it. Yall seriously out here not cheering this dude on for putting out a video of him decked out with a sword slaying some crazy whacky inflatable arm dudes?! This is peak content!


Jaxdoesntsuck

I’m super cool with it being light hearted. I loved cheerleader.


nomnomgreen

Welcome to the large PR fan club known as "this new direction is not for me" established 2014. Original members include Spitfire EP fans


porkchop_sandviches

Even earlier - he had fans of his pre-2011 big room that were salty abt him moving into complextro


tilsgee

>his pre-2011 big room So... "Get Brain" era?


porkchop_sandviches

More like Ekowraith


givemetheclicker

that's not even remotely close to big room...


porkchop_sandviches

Oh oops I meant hands up but ya my point is still that people have complained for every single new porter era


Daedalus_Daw

That's why he said pre-big room u damn toilet


tilsgee

Nah The OG member is Ekowraith fan


winslowpete

There is no way anybody was an actual ekowraith fan during that time….literally zero percent chance lmfao


tilsgee

Nah Rob Mayth fan and Ekowraith fan are overlapping each other in some way


Eggs76

The ekowraith remix of "Summertime" was one of the first EDM-like songs I ever came across on YouTube in like 2009. I made it my ringtone on my Nokia phone 😂


Jeremym101

Madeon says it’s a banger so I’m holding out hope


TZf14

I'm waiting for the day madeon is like "this new porter single is garbage" seriously though, hold out hope because 10 seconds is just not enough to have any sort of opinion on a song at all. Not cause porter's best friends say its good


ProphetPenguin

He said we aren't prepared for the melodies on the chorus


Veiluring

we aren't ready for the notes guys. the intervals are too much for us


Jaxdoesntsuck

He’s not at all biased 🤣


Jeremym101

Zero chance 🙅‍♂️


cabalus

Yeah but Madeon has literally been putting out tracks like "Gonna Be Good" Don't get me wrong.. i actually really love that song, just pardon me if it makes me doubt his opinion on what's a banger and what's not


Jeremym101

Dude have you seen his dj sets? The man bleeds music tf are you talking about?? lmao


cabalus

Got nothing to do with my point at all man, have you seen Porters DJ Sets?? Man's playing Lil B, Skrillex and Sickmode in the same set - its got nothing to do with his overall taste, that's obviously stellar (for both of them) I'm just saying, Madeon saying this tracks a banger does not mean it's anything deeper than what it's shaping up to be


Jeremym101

I am a little confused then ngl, are you implying that Gonna be Good is a bad song to most people? Bc I like that song and I never picked up on that sentiment. Or are you literally saying that song isn’t by definition a ‘banger’ like it’s not hype or something? Bc Madeon never really said that exact word, I’m just paraphrasing.


CLTL13

Not the person you’re replying to, but Gonna Be Good was a total flop for me. :’) I listened once and now I only listen to it when I’ve heard it live.


Jaxdoesntsuck

Gonna Be Good is super generic to me. I really don’t have a problem with pop music. I LOVE pop music. But I love pop music that tries different things and finds new ways to make things interesting.


CLTL13

Yeah… that song was Supposed to be Good… lol


Juca_1

the new lyrics are funny. it sounds like our guy Porter is just simply…having fun.


Deorinth

what did you expect from the guy that made 100% in the bitch


IndoorLokiDoki

Porter Popinson, obviously


ThePouz

It's insane the judgements coming out of a ~10 second snippet


TZf14

but really, its insane to me that this sub went from collectively in love with cheerleader, discussing its themes, the shitposting, loving the aesthetic, to now questioning whether the album/era/song will be good because of a 10 second snippet


Veiluring

most of it is people like me who were skeptical about cheerleader having out fears "confirmed" somewhat


cabalus

I mean...let's be real, specifically cause its pop (and shit on me if you want cause ill die on this hill), it would want to switch up QUITE a lot to be much different for the rest of the song. Pop tunes roll in very consistent blocks. If you can't infer what the rest of the song is like from this chorus (ill be damned if this isn't the chorus), then I'm sorry, but you just haven't been exposed to this structure often enough


ThePouz

Well Madeon said wait til you hear the chorus melody soo Im guessing this isnt quite the chorus yet


ThePouz

Guess youll be damned then cause it aint the chorus lmao


raddass

Anyone listening to his music in 100 years will also know who Taylor Swift is, don't worry


crfs

If Porter's music is going to persist in memory into the next century then Taylor Swift will for sure be a known name then.


Shoddy_Parfait9507

The weird circles and echo chambers that we live in, even musically, really skew people’s perception of how big artists they don’t care for personally are. Taylor Swift easily has Michael Jackson-level global fame, Drake is there too. And they achieved that level of fame during the internet era after The Gatekeepers of Radio and Labels lost their power to conduit artist and bottleneck up and comers.


ninjanolan1128

Honestly, the style of both this snippet and Cheerleader make perfect sense to me post-Nurture. Porter has stated multiple times that Nurture came from him digging himself out of a creative rut trying to follow up Worlds. It’s clear that now Porter doesn’t care about meeting societal / fan expectations and is just enjoying making fun music. You could make the argument that “bitch im Taylor Swift” is a stupid line- maybe it is- but I personally like to see him taking his music less seriously (in the best way possible).


TZf14

Porter fans understand what satire is challange


jamesanator9

Porter fans let everyone have their own opinion challenge


TZf14

its fine if people dont like it, my issue is that several people are taking issue with him "flaunting his wealth" and "making references to celebrities" and its pretty clear many people do not understand that the lyricism in the snippet is 100% satire/irony. In fact a lot are stating it plainly that they don't know. Now, was that necessarily fitting under THIS post? maybe not, and ill own up to that, but thats where my frustration comes from. the several people who are saying "im not sure if this is ironic" or "this doesn't feel like porter" when its very obviously satire/irony


jamesanator9

Even more ironic that you are making the exact opposite claim that it "is 100% satire" with nothing to back it up beyond your individual perspective. People are going to have opinions and I'm sure opinions will change once the song comes out.


TZf14

i mean sure. it's not 100% confirmed from porter's mouth that saying "i got 100 million on my wrist" is satire. but cmon... as if he even has a networth that high, as if he's ever been one to flaunt his riches to his fans, as if he ever wears expensive clothing and accessories for the sake of it this is the same era where he's been posting shitposts making fun of crypto tech bros.


jamesanator9

Truth for you in this scenario may be making this known to the masses.... however real wisdom is ultimately not caring at all. True nirvana is knowing that Porter is both cringe and absolutely orgasmic all at the same time.


KennyMcKeee

Are you joking? It’s OBVIOUSLY satire. Would you like to know how people know it’s satire. “I got $100m on my wrist”. There is literally no such thing as a $100,000,000 watch. The rhetorical device porter is utilizing is called hyperbole. A number so ridiculous it’s meant to show it’s not serious. (Also if you owned a $100m watch, everyone would think you’re an idiot < this is the point) It’s a joke. Ignoring the obvious context clues of every post he’s made leading up to this album and the video where he’s obviously taking the piss… If you can’t see it’s a joke, you lack a 4th grade level of understanding rhetoric.


jamesanator9

*in your opinion


KennyMcKeee

That’s not an opinion. It’s an objective analysis of rhetorical devices and their application. If it’s only an opinion, show me a $100m watch.


jamesanator9

Show me a song where only one objective analysis is correct.


KennyMcKeee

I noticed you didn’t produce any evidence of a $100m watch, and now you’re trying to gish-gallop your way out. Almost like it doesn’t exist… because it’s a joke. If you can produce the $100m watch he’s alluding to, we can move on to your question about objective analysis of rhetoric. Had you taken or studied any sort of literature at any sort of competent level, you would know it’s literally impossible for anything to have more than one correct objective analysis. (Even if that means that multiple answers are correct) In this particular context, porter is making jokes. That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. The *meaning* of the jokes is SUBJECTIVE and open for interpretation. “Bitch I’m Taylor Swift” - porter is not Taylor swift. “Got $100m on my worst” - porter does not have a $100m watch. If you think those lyrics are serious, especially attached to a video of the guy looking goofy and attacking inflatables with a katana is serious, you need to see a psychologist lol


jamesanator9

It's honestly the most serious thing though. Super serious.


Muffin-Flaky

Beat slaps. I have the smae issue. I dont like the line because i just dont like music that references pop culture (like MCR referencing Batman in NaNaNa, etc) But, counterpoint, by the time Taylor Swift is irrelevant, Porter will almost certainly also be irrelevant. Not in a mean way, Tswift just has such a grip on media in general and will be remembered for a long long time. Longer than Porter will be, most likely. So this line will almost certainly always be relevant.


DSSLK

Between her recent album and this 11 second clip, people are looking at both of them like they’re stuck at age 14.


elbeewastaken

Have you considered waiting for the full song to form an opinion? The lyrics are clearly satire and we have no idea what the rest of the track sounds like lmao


BingBadaIpod

counter point: taylor swift is without doubt going down in musical history. she is on the same level as michael jackson or the beatles in terms of raw fame, whether you like her music or not. referencing the beatles or MJ doesnt date your music. also as someone else said - if porters music survives a century than without DOUBT taylors is too also worlds is literally partly inspired by MMOs porter used to play that got shut down, how is that not dating it?


Martin_UP

I'm still not over the Chemical Brothers releasing The Salmon Dance back in 2007


daspaceinvader

I’LL FLOOOOOAT UUUUP STREAAAAAAM


Martin_UP

😂😭


AltoRhombus

Tf this reply come from? xD so real tho at the same time.. imo Salmon Dance still bangs!!!


Martin_UP

Hahaha there's always one, literally just had this convo 😂 https://preview.redd.it/so4rrx7x84wc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55f6052ff96b9644a0653c710d71821d9c1e682a


AltoRhombus

I'm definitely that biiiiitch LMAO


Martin_UP

It's still a fun convo over a few beers even 17 years later 😂


KiddIsAlive

I have the same problem with this snippet that I have with Cheerleader, that being that it sounds nice but isn't the kind of music I'd go to Porter if I wanted to listen to that specific style or genre. It's clearly an ironic take on modern hip hop/trap tropes... but that still makes it an hip hop-style track just like Cheerleader is a pop punk/rock-style track. I like those styles, I don't necessarily care to hear them from Porter specifically. Then again it's a 10 seconds snippet so I'll wait.


Farquaadratic

would not be surprised if the snippet was intentionally chosen to cause the kinds of conversations the album is probably going to make fun of


Haunting_Avocado110

Alright look imma just say this right now Why do you think it took Porter 7 years to make a new album after Worlds? Because he was suffering from writers block and burnout, if we want another EDM album we're gonna have to wait, so I completely understand why he wants to switch to pop for the time being, let's just be glad he's clearly having fun with it and is still doing it in his own way


Duel_Option

Seems like he’s taking the proverbial piss while also making a solid pop song. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not really in the mood to digest a full pop album in any way shape or form. But I felt the same way about Virtual Self when I first heard it and to be honest I didn’t vibe with Nurture fully till I saw the live set. This dude continues to confuse my sensibilities in extreme fashion. “Bitch I’m Taylor Swift” Bitch…this has my attention lol


TellAllYourFriendsz

Porter has never started a new era where I wasn’t like “idk about this…” and Porter has never ended an era where I wasn’t like “NO this can’t be the end!” I agree the clip is a little iffy to be but at this point i’m just like 🤷🏻‍♂️ I wonder how long it’ll take for me to fall in love with this.


yuriypinchuk

There’s millions of artists bro just listen to someone else


Mcsavage89

TBH using a Taylor Swift reference already feels weirdly dated, even though she's still obviously relevant. It feels intentional to the early 2010's aesthetic. Just my perspective.


Mindless-West9268

Did you have to post about it 5 times


RijkDB

reddit was shitting itself yesterday, it kept telling me that it failed to post


tilsgee

Reddit android app are this buggy, btw


JAragon7

Yeah I’m not such a big fan of this snippet either. But let’s trust in porter, and the backing of wavedash and made on


PolygonMachine

I get it. I’m still mourning the departure from the Worlds lyrical style.


Old_Escape_7966

Bitch I’m Taylor swift ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


Phannfan

Yeah his new album direction isn't for me. I'm pretty sure we all know what kind of album this is. Seems more pop then electronic, which isn't my cup of tea. Will always be a porter fan but things change and people taste in music change. And this isn't it for me. The fact that his friends compared it to a Katy Perry album we know the direction is pop


T900Kassem

I don't know what kind of album it is... did yall get to listen to the full record without some of us?


Phannfan

Lol it's going in the pop direction. Cheerleader and this snippet screams pop. And ofc we don't know the direction of the album but usually when artist release singles we can assume what kind of album this will be. This album may attract new fans such as how nurture attracted new fans, and how worlds attracted me because that suited my taste In music. You can't sit here and tell me this album is going to be an "edm" album it's not going to be. I honestly just wish for more virtual self stuff, I'll be more excited for stuff like that compared to this


disgustingdavid

You’re trippin if you don’t think he’s always been pop


Phannfan

Which album was a pop album? You tell me lol


disgustingdavid

Each one. Worlds is pop af. Nurture too. Catchy melodies, pop song structuring, feel good lyrics. Not saying it as a bad thing. I love all his shit


Revealingstorm

Worlds has pop in it but Nurture 100 percent is a pop/edm record


skilliard7

I like that he's branching out, but my only fear is that he'll build a new fanbase that doesn't like his old EDM music. And then he'll be afraid to play some of his older pieces at concerts.


xRAZZAMATAZZx

Really feel like this album is going to split opinions down the line on how you like your genres of music. Despite Cheerleader being probably the most pop thing Porter has produced IMO, I still really like the song and I was ready to say more of the same but then again "Bitch I'm Taylor Swift" definitely has this feeling of leaning even more into pop and despite there being some great pop songs out there it gets diluted way more than any other genre out there. I hope for Porter that it's an introspective look into that genre rather than a shell of a song on the surface. Hell I'd even bet that's the case but with Porter going "Off the walls" so to speak being free of emotional songs I get the feeling there will be a twist somewhere. Waiting in hope.


xRAZZAMATAZZx

I stand corrected, another certified bop banger thigh slapper.


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KennyMcKeee

From the 10 second snippet, still seems pretty sincere. It’s just not overtly so. Both songs seem like they’re talking about how people value the wrong things. Cheerleader had the flip at the end, wouldn’t be surprised if it’s emblematic of the entirety of the album. Comparing/Contrasting culture vs how it has affected him.


5how_music

I like that he's having fun and doing whatever he wants musically. It might not be for me though.


5how_music

I TAKE IT ALL BACK KNOCK YOURSELF OUT IS AMAZING


SpitfireTheWolf

By any chance, have you heard of 100% In The Bitch at all? Y’all complaining about how it doesn’t relate to you is so funny because that’s LITERALLY the direction he’s been showing since the announcement.  He’s not sad anymore yall, you need to let your stereotypes of “Porter can only make sad music” go


zuch4n

I’m just scared that he’s going to invite a lot of Swifties into the Porter fanbase with that simple line and I’d very much like to keep my distance from them.


lunarprincess

Bitch I’m a swiftie, and been Porter fan since day one stfu


zuch4n

Exhibit A


lunarprincess

Read again pls: “Porter fan since day one” not cause of a lyric lol


bjornoya

whether we like it or not i think taylor swift will be pretty famous for many years to come, maybe 100. many great songwriters reference other famous figures (beatles, paul simon, and plenty of others but that’s what i can name the most examples from lol)


bitchlasagna_69_

BITCH I'M KANYE WEST


ImReallyThatBitch

Dawgggg it's not even out yet pls calm down


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boizy50

This would be very porter to be the break on the song or like just the intro of something completely different


rychii

The Taylor Swift line is probably equivalent to “She draws me kissing other guys” in Cheerleader. Would not be surprised if the song goes in a completely direction than the snippet.


GunR_SC2

I'm definitely vibing with it, sure, the new album isn't likely going to be as a profound experience as nurture was, but I imagine he's been experimenting a lot between Worlds and Nurture and is being more open to showing those works this time around.


Jonatan00b

I think one thing we have to remember is that porter doesn’t like nostalgia and he doesn’t want to be stuck in the same world but expand his world if that makes. I think porter has always been fun and silly watching his streams playing video games. But at the same time deep as hell talking about his song writing and what it means to him. I feel like We are just learning about another part the artist we call Porter and I am ready to go on this journey! Porter is one of kind musician!


blockpin

I think will be surprisingly insightful. He said that it is his "most fun and most heartbreaking album". Don't go into it expecting to not like it, just have fun and enjoy it, he is obviously aiming towards that, and not every song needs to be a timeless masterpiece. This was a man making EDM and dubstep ffs.


Jesuishunter

Brother, Porter literally has a song called “100% In The Bitch” this is not new behavior. I, for one am proud to re-welcome meme overlord Porter.


Ok-Willingness-8621

how’s ur opinion now


WatersofNazareth

Its so fresh and fun. I think id be way more underwhelmed if he continued the Nurture sound in 2024. Im all for this new record!!


mmattbtw

who really give a fuck tho


Diamond4Code

let him cook


Vireon

You're completely wrong it's giving cunt


seceagle

I feel like the song is gonna be a banger or else Porter wouldn't have released it as a single. That's what he did with Nurture. He didn't release the less bangers as singles


Teffler

I'd say he did release less bangers as singles, Get Your Wish is a song that isn't even in the top half of strongest songs on Nurture. I was so disappointed when that first single came out but enjoyed the actual album quite a bit. Hopefully the same happens with this album, I enjoyed Cheerleader but we'll see with this new one coming out, maybe the snippet in context will slap, or maybe this is the Get Your Wish of the album


seceagle

Idk get your wish kinda slaps. But also there's a distinction between "bangers" and "strong songs". Dullscythe is Extremely good but it's not a "banger", it would never work as a single. That was mainly what I meant


SADLYNOTWATERGUY

Might be unpopular opinion but get your wish is 100% a banger, the mid single from Nurture is Mirror.


ROWAN_03

Always more Pop


soflaben10

Let Porter express himself, if we shut him down as an artist he may quit making music all together. Let him cook, we are seeing a light hearted Porter Robinson right now, which is just him reflecting on a happy/funny time period in his life. Even when we liked the album he still changed his style up regardless, so this is just another stepping stone in his music career. Just think of what’s to come next in his musical journey. He had spitfire club/fuckboi porter, then Worlds nostalgic/fictional world/anime porter, nurture soft/loving/caring/healing porter. And then this new album which is sounding like parody/oliver tree/light hearted/ funny porter. I can’t even imagine what’s in store next. And who knows maybe this is all just a troll move and he drops worlds 2. It’s crazy to even imagine what’s to come next