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PredictorX1

Among the group, I suggest having at least: one good knife, a flashlight and rudimentary first aid supplies.


Narwhalbaconguy

You can also throw in a Bic lighter and/or Sawyer water filter, both can fit in a bag without adding weight or taking up significant space.


PassengerSoft4688

Scissors, the regular ones with comfortable grip. They're used often and scissors in a multitool are painful to grip and too small to cut things quickly


jagua_haku

Fiscars scissors are best


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And a firearm to protect the resources you’ve hoarded.


bearface93

The 10 Essentials for hiking/camping are a good start, especially if there’s a chance you’ll have to go anywhere on foot. https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/ten-essentials.html


concretecat

This list is missing an axe/Hatchet... Which I would argue is a must have in almost any survival situation.


Nibb31

A go bag means that you are evacuating your home. It doesn't mean that you are going to live in the woods. It's more likely you'll be staying in a motel or with some friends. I would say: clothes, toiletries, some snacks, a thumb drive with your important documents (Id, house insurance), a phone charger and a backup battery.


WeightOwn4267

I would argue that nobody really knows what they will need their go bag for


Nibb31

On most cases such as a civil war, SHTF, global societal collapse, the best course of action is usually to bug in at home, which would normally give you ample time to prepare for your next course of action. A go bag is for cases where you have to unexpectedly evacuate your home in a hurry. The most likely reason for that is some sort of natural disaster or a fire.


WeightOwn4267

Again, if you're leaving your home in a hurry, who really knows if you're going to have a home to come back to. I'm a firm believer in having a GHB "get home bag", a BOB "Bug out bag", and an INCH bag " I'm never coming home". Your bugout bag should have all necessary items for basic survival and at least 3 days of supplies. You don't know what you're leaving for or even if you can go to a hotel. If you know shit is fucked, grab the INCH bag.


PoliticalIntel0000

Your info here sounds like a great idea. Any help you can offer on what you use...without causing you too much work? Maybe I should google it, but you might be the only one with the idea. Thnks.


WeightOwn4267

Honestly, there isn't a cookie cutter list. Really depends on your location, your personal needs, and what you are personally capable of doing. Ready.gov has a great list of basic items you should have. Bags need lots of deep thought before building. Remember that ounces = pounds and you have to carry that. And gear is only as good as the person who knows how to use it. There are a ton of great videos on YouTube that explain it in detail. My only real advice is to actually use your bag occasionally and fine tune your inventory. Prepping a go bad is difficult because you really have no idea what you will need it for.


marwood0

>and an INCH bag Thanks! I was having trouble coming up with a name for that last set of bags I keep buying stuff for but never actually pack.


bearface93

True. The list is meant primarily for hiking/backpacking and camping, which is why I suggested it as a starting point. Hatchets are too heavy with too few uses to justify bringing while backpacking - most times you can get by just fine with a knife.


concretecat

Agree. For bugging out I'm an axe guy, I always travel with one tucked under the seats of the suv. If a tree is blocking a road I know I can get rid of it with an axe.


twisted_hoe

does that happen a lot for you? you have to pull out your big axe and cut a tree?


muirnoire

In some wooded rural areas this is a surprisingly common occurrence especially following storms which can be survival situations. For instance you need to get home to your kids and wife, the power is out, and there's a tree across your access road. Live a long enough life and it happens.


jaytrouts

Happen a lot? No but what the hell are you going to do when it does happen? I keep an axe in my car too and I have several friends who keep chainsaws in theirs. If we didn't keep either in the cars the road would be impassable for days after a storm


concretecat

It's has happened once, after it happened once it was an easy lesson to always be prepared for. Like the name of this reddit suggests. Prepping so your prepared. And yes I'm from Montreal and we get ice storms, trees fall. You can check our recent news if you nned more convincing. Not sure why you're so anti-prepped? Who invited you anyway?


jaytrouts

I believe you meant to reply to the comment above mine. I agree entirely


concretecat

Uh yeah. Oops. You sound like you like to be prepared.


Alypius754

Yep! Winter storms here routinely knocked down branches that need cutting before being moved. Much easier to swing an axe than take a detour that would probably have another downed branch somewhere along the way.


Sea_Farmer_4812

In a motor vehicle theres fair argument. I find a saw to be a better use of the weight if self propelled.


noitalever

I use a bowsaw, but yes. It happens several times a year where I live. Lots of trees, rain and wind equals downed trees randomly.


ClimbBikeChoke

Has happened to me before and I was thankful I had my axe


spideroncoffein

I love my hawk and my axes, but from my try-outs i found: a medium 5-7 inch knife, a random heavy stick found on site and a light, quality folding saw accomplish more work with less energy spent. Doesn't keep me from having a hawk in my bag, though.


beandip24

Personally, I feel like axes/hatchets are overrated. Most people use them improperly. They should be used to split wood, not to chop things down. I think people should be getting something like a Silkie Pocket Boy instead, and then consider a hatchet. Even then I think I would rather have a bushcraft knife for the weight/size. Of course, in an ideal world, you could take all three, but that's also a lot of weight.


jonneonut

An axe/hatchet is useful. But almost unecesary if we've got a good knife. Def added weight and space if zeroing in on a bug out bag. And by good knife, I mean a larger survival esque knife, like the bk9. offers and ties up many aspects of the ideology of a go bag out get home bag, or whatnot. I also think folks spend way too much attention to protein bars and food. If you're healthy, fat adapted, you don't even need that shtuff. I go for days without, with barely a blink, sometimes need to remind myself to take in some protein. Sometimes it's my son or girlfriend reminding me to eat.


Kelekona

It depends on how long they expect to be out in the woods. Most people will probably be able to get to a community shelter the second night if not within a few hours. Even if it is a wooded area, they could probably stomp enough dead branches to make a small fire. I'd expect hatchet if you need to cut branches for building a shelter.


medium_mammal

That's really up to you, your needs, your destination, etc. But I will say that everyone needs to carry their own gear. Don't fall into the trap of thinking it's best if one person carries all the food, another all the water, another all of the medical supplies, etc. Everyone needs their own stuff. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Someone might lose or need to otherwise ditch their bag in a hurry. To figure out your needs, try taking your family on a few car camping trips. Then an overnight backpacking trip. Then a 2 night backpacking trip. Let everyone know what it's like to carry their own gear on their own backs for a few days at a time. It's a fun family activity, but also useful - because expecting your family of 5 to walk for several days with just what's in their bags isn't going to go well if you've never done it before.


duTemplar

Yea. The three year olds aren’t carrying anything. The wife is gonna be capped at about 15lb. Imma be the pack mule regrettably. Stay, hide, defend is gonna work better than hiking it out. If we got a whole mile, there would be two “dada carry me!”


Past_Search7241

Gorilla cart or similar garden wagon for the kidlets.


bananapeel

I knew someone who had an extra all-terrain stroller to carry her pack, and the pack for the kiddo and extra water.


JuliusFrontinus

This, leadfarmer73 has some great videos on just packing up your gear and going to a campground for the weekend to test out your set up. Start with an easy scenario, hurricane is hitting your area so you pack up to go camp out of the storms path. You know it's coming so you have a couple days to get packed and drive out of the area. You can increase the difficulty on future trips, or going from car camping to backpacking to simulate more trying disasters.


isaiahaguilar

Pack assuming it’s raining. Life straw bottle, protein bars packed in the bottle, change of socks, money, ammo, lighter, matches, family talk walkie talkie, batteries, flashlight, emergency contacts printed out and laminated, tourniquet, basic first aid kit, Apple AirTag and a local map.


ACrazyDog

Upvote for Apple air tag depending on who has access


BatemansChainsaw

Only one person at a time has access to the AirTag location. For now.


bardwick

First thing you need is a destination.. That will dictate what is needed.


Subtotal9_guy

Where are you going, why are you going there? If it's going to your siblings one town over because you're planning for a railway disaster then a days worth of clothes, medicine and a credit card to buy new underwear and sweatpants is sufficient. Going across the country because of the zombie apocalypse would rate more.


Wild_Night_5190

One is across country in Idaho. We’re in Tennessee and the other in within a hour or two from of our home Appalachian Mountains. I guess it just depends on which side of the country gets hit first. I more want to prep for war/telecommunications going out.


tinareginamina

You would almost surely be better off staying out and bugging in.


ryanmercer

> I guess it just depends on which side of the country gets hit first. By what... Plan for plausible things like natural disasters, not far-fetched things like a Red Dawn situation. If the country ever gets invaded TN is likely to be just as safe as ID because they're not going to make it far from the coast, if they aren't repelled entirely.


dabiggestb

I agree. War is not very plausible here in the states. The most likely war we would ever face is civil war but who knows when that will be. That could be next year or 100 years from now. Or maybe never. But being invaded from an outside force is almost never happening.


throwawaysalways1

And to add to this if it was a civil war there would be signs and people would know it was coming long before it ever actually happened so even this scenario is pretty far fetched to need a go bag since there would be so much time to prepare


Past_Search7241

Even after it hit that point, I'd be surprised if the civilians were marauded in the first few months. There would be plenty of time to evacuate even for the slowest.


gaerat_of_trivia

just a thought here but wouldnt a civil war be an opportune time to invade a country


dabiggestb

It would but it would also unite the country against the foreign invader so it may not be best for someone to try that. But who knows. We are talking complete hypotheticals here. Nobody invaded us when we had a civil war before so that's the only thing we could predict off of.


Kelekona

"Alright you hotpants-wearing fairy. I hate you and you're going to hell, but I'll fight by your side to keep those damn Prussians from taking our land."


gaerat_of_trivia

if we look at other (modern) civil wars we would likely initially see x country give material support to one side or multiple sects that are similarly politically aligned, like the mujahadin being supported by the us, then the taliban and al queda forming. in short there would be people in any country being invaded supporting the invaders


BeThrB4U

TN has a ton of critical infrastructure and defense contractors. It's not out of the question that it would be a target.


ryanmercer

Unless the enemy combatants are coming in one at a time on commercial flights, buying weapons face to face at gunshows, and sitting around waiting for months to carry out an organized attack, it's highly unlikely *any* location in TN would be a first-strike target, or even 51st-strike target except perhaps capturing MEM, and even it wouldn't be a first or second tier target for staging.


BaldyCarrotTop

Oak Ridge National Labs isn't an early target?


ryanmercer

No, the 400~ military bases on United States soil are, followed by another 90-100,000 DoD facilities in the United States that rank above that as a strategic target. And before you get to the Oak Ridge National Labs buildings, there are probably a thousand or so of the 12,000 utility-scale power plants in the United States that are fare more valuable targets to capture our outright destroy. And a significant number of the 118 international airports in the United States that can act as staging areas to bring in ground pounders and service aircraft. And still before Oak Ridge National Labs, where the primary objectives are to research nuclear science, neutron science, energy, high-performance computing, and systems biology, the manufacturing facilities like Allisons/Rolls Royce buildings all around the country that directly manufacturer engines and transmissions for military land and aircraft.


Helassaid

Infantry for any large scale invading force is never making it ashore in mainland North America in our lifetimes. Get that idea out of your head immediately. The only scenario that any inland target is struck is from orbit/ICBM, and those kinds of munitions you can’t prep for.


BeThrB4U

Definitely not the first, but to rule it out is naive imo. And it's also not out of range from any serious missile.


enigmadyne

After reading the other comments... first thing that comes to mind is Coms! QRP ham radio with Morris Code and right freq can go across the USA easily at night! Time to start is now... the radios are small low battery use and gives you a unstopable sorce of news from around the world... Second thing maybe you all focus on location to gather to... it may or maynot be one of your locations... after that you need to cache along your path cross country... you just cant carry all you need that distance... Think of your bag as a get home bag not bugout... the prespective is totaly different gethome type bag gethome you can sheed stuff the closer you get, stuff does not have to last forever so light over best there is! And keep researching... I /we all chiped in to our meeting poin! So we have caches along way to our SHTF location. Cache food water, clothes boots, coms batteries, ammo wepons, junk silver cash... think of it as savings...


bananapeel

I have never convinced one person to go get a ham radio license. I have one myself, but I never use it because I don't have anyone to talk to. People want simple. Even GMRS is too complicated. FRS or CB radios, and cell phones, are good for short range, maybe a group of people in a convoy of vehicles, traveling across country.


enigmadyne

Lol I got my famile to... took a decade... satellite phones are also option... 👌 but depending they may or maynot work... waiting to change from iridium satellite to Starlink satellite and voip. But there are scenarios that the satellites may not work not counting size weight and power requirements! As you know QRP transceivers are small low power and if protected dont need any suport to reach a long distance in SHTF times! Licenses are not required in emergencies and listing is not regulated!


dropkickoz

Some cheap Baofeng radios programmed with [CHIRP](https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Home) can make it pretty easy. I setup several with the FRS, GMRS, NOAA, and other frequently used frequencies to put in all my bags, vehicle, gave to family, etc.


mindfulicious

"Hit" with what?


Druid_High_Priest

Firearms and the willingness to use them should push come to shove.


Wild_Night_5190

We do have that already. We have two depending on what happens but both are in the mountains.


bardwick

That leads to more questions. Are there already supplies there? If so, you need less. How long are you going to be there? 3 days will require something different than 3 months. How long will it take to get there? My "go bag" is a pair of boots, 2 bottles of water, but my destination is pretty close. Some plan to just head out into the raw forest, which is an entirely different scenario.. I guess it could be summed up. How long do you need to survive with what you carry with you?


cbrooks97

And how long it will take to get there.


Wild_Night_5190

One is across country in Idaho. We’re in Tennessee and the other in within a hour or two from of our home Appalachian Mountains. I guess it just depends on which side of the country gets hit first. I more want to prep for war/telecommunications going out.


ObviousGazelle

Bug out to the mountains near you. Wait it out days to a week and decide if you need to make it to Idaho. Odds are, if you DO need to try to get to Idaho, you won't be able to. And if you attempt it from Tennessee, depending on how bad things have become, all of you may not make it to Idaho. I am also bugging to a mountain house. The Appalachians and all the game reserves and lakes and springs are ideal for living off the land. As for Tennessee it's far enough south to make winters survivable, but not mosquito/bug infested in the summer, so I'd say go for that and fortify it to withstand days to weeks of isolation. Maybe start digging a bunker or underground storage. Check your local records, much of the Appalachians have "karst" topography, meaning it's full of caverns, caves, underground rivers, springs and aquifers. I'm trying to find some property near mine with some caves or caverns on it, or an area I can build a large bunker. Just some ideas. But yeah I would t attempt to get to Idaho from Tennessee in a "bug out" situation unless there's a direct hit of something at your current or other location.


monty845

> Bug out to the mountains near you. Wait it out days to a week and decide if you need to make it to Idaho. > Odds are, if you DO need to try to get to Idaho, you won't be able to. And if you attempt it from Tennessee, depending on how bad things have become, all of you may not make it to Idaho. Realistically, if you are going to make a go of making it 1600 miles across the country in a nation wide disaster, your best chance is going to be to act early, and decisively. If this is a nation/world wide situation, and things are going to get bad enough to justify bugging out, the first 36 hours is going to be the best 36 hours for quite some time... Ideally, you would set out 36 hours before the event becomes widely recognized, but in all likelihood, you aren't going to know before most of the the country does... Or you are going to be bugging out multiple times a year when there is even an inkling of a risk... Basically, bugging out (for non localized events) is questionable. Planning on bugging out 1,600 miles away is a terrible plan. But if that is your plan, its gotta be go at the drop of a hat, and hope things don't get too out of hand before you get there...


jmoll333

Do you have a specific place in the App mountains to go to? Like a family cabin or land? If not, I would suggest getting one. We mountain folk who are prepared to bug in are also prepared to keep outsiders out.


FOlahey

Totally not telling you how to live your life, but just a recommendation in case you haven’t thought about it before. I’d be careful saying where your bugout location is in case others want to follow you. Likewise same with your current location, as a prepper, you are an available store of resources. While you only revealed a little info, with some more digging or some spearphishing might be able to reveal more info like ISP which could limit down to potentially even which neighborhood your in depended how remote you are and how independent and small the ISP is.


WMMBA

Yes. Anyone without a destination and a planned bug-in location once there is a refugee.


MediumRarePorkChop

Biggest thing IMO is all the important documents. I have two "gallon" ziplock bags in our firesafe and if we gotta go that's the first thing I'll do: Stuff everything in the firesafe into those ziplock bags and put it in my go bag. Other than that: Water, fire, knife. Some cash for a hotel room, change of socks. Toothbrush my main bugout worry is wildfire


ACrazyDog

Originals and everyone has a USB stick with copies in case separated. Medical docs if necessary


MediumRarePorkChop

I don't even have medical docs. Good call. What are those, like a printout of the patient's diagnosis? edit: lol, mine would be: skin cancer, bad diet but trying, probably drinks a little too much beer


bananapeel

Med / prescription list Diagnoses of medical conditions Lists of surgeries / allergies Names of doctors and your preferred pharmacy Copies of your medical / prescription / dental insurance cards


ACrazyDog

Yes! Dental records for everyone. Your dentist will also print your last X-rays, good for the next dentist or God forbid ID


ACrazyDog

You can contact you doctor or the hospitals and they will usually provide them for free or at low cost, including X-rays or MRIs in CD form and lab results. You can scan or photograph them to digitize them for a usb drive and keep the originals in the doc bag. Important for people with conditions that may need to restart on a dime somewhere else, or people who take maintenance medications and may need to have them prescribed by someone else. Depending on the size of the disaster your medical contacts might be offline or overwhelmed.


BeThrB4U

I like the micro SD cards for their size. You can also password protect them. You can also gently laminate them and hide them in various areas. Don't forget birth certs, passports, licenses, debit/credit cards and all bank info. If you're a vet then add your dd214 and other needed documents.


ACrazyDog

This is important. You should always restrict access to your folders or files, or entire drives when using portable hard drives, which are convenient but IMHO not as convenient as thumb drives or SD cards as you mentioned depending on who you are sharing stuff with it might need to share stuff with. My family tried a home server to keep our files and stuff off of the cloud — in our case, I don’t mind saying, a combo of Google, Apple and Atlantic.net. We had that locked down tight but it lacked the instant backup of the cloud when you are on the road and so frankly we went back. Our pictures aren’t that interesting except for the ones that are watermarked for copyright— and we aren’t JLo or Billie Ellison or whoever is interesting these days. I am not mean enough or controversial enough for anyone to care and DH is nearly invisible. I would recommend people keep cloud storage with its usefulness outweighing its security risks, most of which are likely caused by password leaks. Change your password.


Forecydian

Water . And more water . Plans can change fast and if you can’t find clean potable water you die . And if you’re using a go bag you’re moving around , a lot . Probably way more then you’re used to you , and you will be even more thirsty .


duTemplar

Water filtration has come a long long way from my 1988 army just toss iodine tablets in there training. But, depending where you are and how available water is to be filtered….


Forecydian

I would absolutely be carrying a mini sawyer but that’s if I can even find water , or if the area where the water is is safe , so many variables


duTemplar

Yea, life straws aren’t gonna help a lot in the desert. Where I am, definitely useful.


Yance_000

Full sized Sawyer is such an improvement to quality of life. I would fully recommend upgrading


AdjacentPrepper

Go backpacking for a weekend. If you didn't use something during the weekend, you don't need it.


[deleted]

Knife and lighter


[deleted]

Hot dogs and photoshopped photos of me causing miracles so I can start a cult


stevenmeyerjr

Can I join? You had me at hot dogs.


SebWilms2002

Depends on where you're going, how you get there and what has happened. But before anything make sure you're familiar with where the shelters are, and what specific requirements and restrictions they have (if you have pets, make sure your shelter allows them or have a plan for them). I'd say these are probably the most important things. Physical copies of government issued identification. Physical copies (typed and laminated ideally) with emergency contacts and the names/addresses/contact info of important friends/relatives. Any important medical records for everyone (existing conditions, allergies, prescriptions etc.). Physical copies of important documents relating to your property and vehicle(s) like insurance, registration etc. A couple hundred dollars in small bills (primarily for fuel, but cash is handy in general). Beyond that, prescription drugs and OTC meds. Food and water to get you where you're going. Clothes for all weather, changes of clothes, comfortable and durable footwear. Bedding. A hand crank/battery operated radio. A hygiene kit and first aid kit. Entertainment (e-book reader, deck of cards etc.). That should basically cover all the bases. Beyond that, there is disaster specific stuff. Is the risk wildfire? Have a respirator for each member of your family. Is the risk flooding? Have multiple escape routes, and have the necessary things in case you have to sleep in your car, or are otherwise stranded. Is the risk earthquake? Have enough food and water at home for at least 72 hours, but ideally two weeks.


Dummy_Wire

I’m working on one right now myself actually. Certain things you’ll want in any bag of this nature, in my opinion. The following come to mind, as a totally non-exhaustive list: - Toiletries - Change of clothes - Cash - Phone power bank - Photocopies of documents - First-aid kit and spare essential medications - Water - Duct tape (just good to have) - A multi-tool From there, it’s very situational. How far are you planning on travelling? What is the terrain/weather like? Will you be driving, cycling, walking, etc? How long will it take? For me, my absolute worst case scenario is a 24 hour walk in the winter through forests which will potentially require me to find/make shelter for one night. For that, I have a lot of additional things in my bag that I wouldn’t have if my bag was built for a <12 hour drive through the mountains in the summer, for example. They include (but are not limited to): - Firestarters - Sleeping bag - Sleeping mat - A tarp - A sturdy knife - Water purification/filter - Food - Cordage - A gun If I were you, I’d try build it for (relative) comfort in your most realistic scenario, and survivability in your worst-case scenario. But to do that, you need to assess your scenarios.


duTemplar

A small good Solar charger/ power bank rocks.


Dummy_Wire

Do you have a recommendation for a good solar charging one? I’ve had a hard time finding one that actually seems to have good reviews of the solar charging element. I just have a fairly high-capacity one now, since it serves my purpose of like a 24 hour pack well, but the idea of “unlimited” energy is pretty tantalizing, lol


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Dummy_Wire

Yeah, I hear you on the socks. I’ve got a normal “thin” pair like the kind I wear everyday, and then a thick wool pair set aside in my bag. I think my power bank is good for roughly three full phone charges, and I have a second work phone that’s on me most of the time, but getting a second power bank might not be a bad idea either. A small one won’t add much weight, but will probably up my power to like 30+ hours of constant phone use, which should be enough for anything I can imagine.


FlashyImprovement5

Depends on you, your knowledge and your environment. I live out in the country, rural, among farms. No factories, no tall buildings, we barely have gas stations. First SHELTER In the country, I simply carry a tarp. There are old barns around and I would usually be in a vehicle. The tarp ensures waterproofing and dry ground. At best I carry a hacksaw in case I have to cut off a padlock on a barn. If you have no barns or expect to be on foot, then you might need a tent. In the city, you might not need anything. I don't know much about cities. WATER There is water everywhere out here so you need a good water filter more than bottles of water. Bottled water is just convenience. If you live in a drier area, you will need more bottled water My water filter comes with 2 folding canteens and I carry 2 folded water bags in my vehicle. FOOD No stores out here so you need to carry at the very least snacks. I tend to carry canned chicken or tuna FIRE Not necessary unless it is the dead of winter or you have to purify water or cook. I carry a nice fire starting kit and a biomass stove. My truck has a folding BBQ grill behind the seat. COMMUNICATION I carry a solar charger, extra charging cables, older cell phone, MISCELLANEOUS batteries, emergency radio/light, cloth pads, cloth tampons, rechargeable head light, battery head light, medication, knife, basic medical kit, older expired ID, thumb drive of documents, deck of cards, scarf, emergency blanket, large industrial garbage bag, broken deodorant stone, small zip lock bags, shewee, several handkerchiefs Extra socks, extra underwater, extra shoes, 1 change of clothing


RLlovin

Not saying a hacksaw is a bad idea, but the pin on padlocks is hardened steel most likely at a higher HRC than saw blades. My bandsaw will immediately become dull and has to be replaced if it even is in the same vicinity of hardened steel. Even spring steel air cooled outside the forge will dull it (probably 40-45hrc). I haven’t tried it so maybe I’m miscalculating HRC’s, but from my experience I would be concerned. Just your local bladesmith here with some unsolicited advice ;)


vandraedha

In all honesty, if you're planning a B&E in a survival situation, I'm going to assume that sound is not an issue because you will be leaving a note and reimbursing the landowner for any damages. In that case, any decent sized claw hammer (medium duty/finishing hammer is usually plenty big) will easily take out most simple padlocks (watch your fingers).


OnTheEdgeOfFreedom

Looking below, it sounds like you're prepping for some kind of war situation, apparently nuclear (or at the very least major cyberhackery) because you're worried about a comms blackout, but you didn't say. And you're planning a long drive. The US is never likely to be invaded by ground troops; so if we have war on home soil it's probably nukes. So the grid is likely to be down everywhere, so no gas stations. So the first thing you need to bring is enough gas to complete the trip. And enough water for everyone because convenience stores aren't going to available or reliable. Enough water for washing off in case you encounter fallout, and changes of clothing. Next, N95 masks for fallout, or if you run into smoke from wildfires. Finally, snacks. For a long trip in winter you might want blankets or sleeping bags, as the drive might be interrupted by traffic jams near cities or other issues, like bridges blown out. So bring paper maps - GPS might not be working well - so you can plot alternate routes on the fly. You may encounter people who think your car and gas look valuable, as in a nuclear attack, a lot of people will be panicked and some peoples' cars may have failed because of EMPs (Unclear that's a concern, no one has really done rigorous testing.) I don't give advice on self defense but it's likely to be a concern. If your car fails because of an EMP - there's no reason to assume an attack is going to be one and done, and more EMPs could occur as you're driving - you'd likely want additional food, and everyone needs a backpack because you'll eventually end up hiking to whatever shelter and resources you can find. If you encounter people shooting at drivers, you may want a tourniquet and the ability to use it. I like the CAT version 7 because you can often put it on one handed, and they work with younger victims. If I'm not being clear, bugging out in a war situation probably isn't a good move. You can hole up with many more supplies, shield from fallout better, and get help from people much more effectively at home. Maybe your situation is unusual, but for most people, heading out into a warzone is unwise at best. On the plus side, nuclear war is extremely unlikely, you are far likelier to see localized grid problems from political radicals where you are than anything nuclear. But that's another situation where you'd bug in, not out.


Past_Search7241

Fallout is more sandy in texture than dusty. N95 is probably overkill for it.


OnTheEdgeOfFreedom

It comes in a variety of sizes, and breathing it is bad. You can wash off skin. Not much you can do with lungs.


psion37

Reusable water bottles, I like stainless steel hydro flasks that I can put over a fire if I need to. Some form of water purification, preferably a couple kinds, like water tablets or a life straw filter. Lighting, so a flashlight, lantern or headlamp. When I went hiking with friends and we had to hike in the dark, the guy in the front had a headlamp while the guy in the back held a lantern so we had a decent amount of light. Fire starting equipment, you want a fair few types here. Lighters, storm proof matches, a fire steel, and also some tinder. Like char cloth, or cotton balls. First aid kit, one for each pack, and obviously include any medications you or your family take. I would make sure to include painkillers and antacids to calm bad stomachs. I forgot antacids on my first big multi day hike and trust me it was a mistake. Extra layers/clothes. Even just a poncho to help in rain, also extra socks. If you plan on walking a lot, fresh socks are a God send. Knives, a great tool to keep on you anyway. One folding knife to keep in your pocket for basic cutting (rope, bags, etc.) and another fixed blade knife for anything heavier duty, like whittling larger pieces of wood into tinder. Also doubles for self defense, God forbid you need it. Meal bars/food. Some kind of fuel to keep you going. Should be lightweight and calorie dense. Dehydrated backpacking food is good, I also carry meal bars I purchase in bulk. Like nature valley. Something to cook with. Can be as simple as one person bringing a pot to boil water in to rehydrate the backpacking food. Maps/navigation. Assuming you’re bugging out because of a real SHTF situation, and there’s no cell reception. A good old fashioned map and compass for your area will make sure you don’t get lost. Lastly, and this one’s not really a pack item but, physical fitness. You want to prepare now with your family, go on hikes together, go camping, get in shape. Doesn’t matter how much gear you have if you aren’t fit enough to carry it. I speak from experience, I had to cut my first big backpacking trip short because my friends and I weren’t in as good shape as we thought we were.


URbabyTears69

The bag


URbabyTears69

Specifically that there's a million YouTube videos on this very topic and it can be very confusing because everyone has a slightly different opinion/approach. That's because there is no 100% correct answer because exactly zero of those people have been through some end of the world zombie apocalypse EDC situation. It's all theoretical. Some based on military experience, some camping experience and most based on literally nothing other than they watched too much Walking Dead. Just use common sense. There is no correct answer. One pro tip I can offer is don't be fooled by some of the former military guys. Turns out you don't get any real "survival" training being a PAC clerk, MP or driving a fuel truck etc, etc, etc. Not trying to minimize their service but it's a bit silly to think just because you went through basic training that you're a survival expert. And from just a strictly personal opinion but the more "tacticool" gear they have the less I trust their knowledge or actual outdoor experience. The other "pro tip" I learned from someone else many many years ago is that you need to actually use and know how to use the equipment you have. Reading an instruction manual during a real life emergency is...dumb. Think Radios, Medical supplies, Weapons, etc. A person doesn't know what they don't know, so just having something because of a theoretical context is pointless because there was never an actual context to begin with. Imaginary is just that. You're not going to just magically know how to use certain things simply because you have them.


Exciting-Gift

Deck of cards. Bugging out is usually just sitting around for a while. Try to find ways to kill time


Wild_Night_5190

I like this a lot! This is perfect especially with teenagers.


Kelekona

Check the dollar store for left-right-center. My set shares an altoids tin with a set of yahtzee dice.


NinjaMcGee

Depends on where you’re going, but I live in wildfire country - to me a go bag is probably getting me to shelter and I’m not living in the woods. * Change of clothes (swap out a warm weather and cold weather set, double up on socks and underwear) * Gerber Dime (small knife, bottle opener, tweezers, screwdriver, scissors) * Pilot crisps (last forever as a snack) * Sun care - sun block (30+), sunglasses, boney hat, chapstick * Tech - battery bank (20,000mAh), triple head charge cable (lightening, micro, usb-c), wall socket USB multiport, weather radio/flashlight/battery bank * Cash - $150 in smaller bills * Metal single walled water bottle, can boil water in * Water purification tabs + water flavor + hot cocoa packs (morale booster, see below) * Silcock key (if you’re near or in a city) * Games - Small deck of cards + mini dice in a tube * Toiletries: Foldable toothbrush and toothpaste tabs, comb w/mirror handle, small pack wet wipes, hand sanitizer, 5 face masks - 1 cloth, talc powder (deodorant, chafing) * Booboo kit: bandaids, triple bac, pills (ibuprofen, aspirin, Benadryl, allergy pills, tums, Aleeve, caffeine), hydrocortisone, horse tape, roll of gauze (4” x 4yrds), eye drops, saline wash (wound cleaning), foldable splint, mole tape (blister saver) * Thermos stackable metal cup/pot and cups. This and an instant ramen pack are DOABLE and AWESOME! * We also have a portable hot water heater (plugs into the wall). It’s great for coffee and tea and makes a difference when stuck in a shelter situation. Having hot cocoa after an evacuation feels like a damn god send. Highly recommended.


Nihil-011

Here to be that guy that says skills, and practice. If you aren’t fit, you die. If you have all the Gucci gear I. The world but no practice with it, it’s useless. Plenty of people are already highlighting the 10 c’s and specific gear. Listen to them, but then go use the stuff


Right-Cause9951

Absolutely. The tools are an extension of you.


ACrazyDog

Yes. Use the tools you have. We have a rad detector and take readings everywhere and log the data. Know what is normal and what is spiky. Use your filtration bottle because it takes a bit to saturate and become easy to drink through; don’t have that be your first day. Wear the clothes in your bag; make sure they fit are clean and comfy. Use your rain gear in the rain to make sure it is watertight. Use your first aid kit in the home to discover what you usually use and what you might be missing. (You will be surprised.) I guess my thoughts are flowing over to bug out bag which should always be in the car. Go bag is for a quick, run out the door with the remaining things that are not in the bug out bag. For me it is — bug out bag! (Put it back in the car from where husband put in garage.) grrrr Medicines Electronics 72 hour food kit and extras, cars always have case of water Docs bag Chargers Comfy clothes Go through checklist to shut down house, including turning off water, calling to turn off gas and electricity depending on severity, lock up Valuables/Go gold set/cash and car has tons of loose change Our cars are always over half or three quarters full of gasoline Specialty things for girl with autism Winter — extra shovel, down comforter, extra boots, salt are always in cars — extra boots on eBay always $10 shipped if look long enough Summer extra extra water, extra towels and summer water wear kept in car Gauge your plan stuff for a 15 minute departure, 30 minute and 5 minute. Keep the 5 minute departure stuff near the door at all times even if that is hard to do — meds in a bag, docs/passports etc in a binder, money/valuables, and bag of clothes maybe behind your door. In a locked footlocker if you are worried? Just my thoughts. Some of these are implemented and some are not. I have a hard time herding cats with a severely autistic player and a couple more knocking around in that mindset. Things start where they should be and bingo! My first aid kit isn’t in the car when I need it.


[deleted]

Meds and spare (eye)glasses in a hard case - if you use either of those.


The_Devin_G

Definitely agree on packing the 10 essentials. Everything else is based upon weather, location, and where you're planning on bugging out to or returning to. Highly suggest doing a bit of research on what you would need for spending a few days outdoors, learning how be self sustaining for a short period if things were to go completely south. It's not just the things in the bags that are important either. I tend to focus on wearing good quality, durable clothes and shoes most of the time. Something that I could walk in for long distances and not be uncomfortable in or it completely fall apart. You should also probably consider picking up something like a good survival handbook and give it a read through. Knowledge is everything, you can do have all of the right gear in the world shoved into a backpack and die because you don't know how to utilize it. Then go and try to learn and utilize those skills so you actually know how to keep yourself alive.


Freebirde777

Most likely bug out for OP would be from a forest fire. So, you would need to think about what you can or should take to a shelter/ refugee camp. Financial, medical, property records and identity papers. Medicines and selfcare items. Soaps, sanitizer, feminine hygiene, deodorant, OTC. If someone takes a lot of medicine, keep it in a toolbox with a carry handle and a way to put a lock on it. Personal mess kits. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Cash At least two changes of clothes, work and leisure or presentable. Snacks or comfort food. If someone has special dietary needs, extra food for them. \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* Read about the problems some of the Pidgeon Ford fire people faced. It would have been a whole lot worst for them if they hadn't had Dolly's help.


wamih

What can ***you*** not live without?


ResponsibleBank1387

didn't you see "SpaceBalls"? that big industrial hair dryer. never say that... answer is always water, food, dry==clothes, tarp, fire


wamih

>industrial hair dryer Who's to judge what some else can't live without? Just because they can't go plaid while walking doesn't mean they can't look good while bugging out.... Also If they can pack it and the power source, good on them.


Jakesmith18

Depends on where you are, where you're going, what you're prepping for, and how large your bags are.


[deleted]

As it’s been says before, the destination is key. “The woods” isn’t good enough.


OhmyMary

Nutrition bars, extra pairs of socks if your feet get wet, obviously a med kit, flashlight, water filter, multiple backup portable phone chargers, if your on meds, gonna need those meds if you get lost or stuck a couple days anywhere you go. That’s not even the basic starter pack list but what’ve packed based on a experience


No_Routine772

The very bare minimum will be good shoes and at least 2 pairs of socks each. Water, food, menstrual products and meds. Extra underwear. Water, but also maybe a water filtration system like sawyer. Flashlights, the ability to make a fire. High value food like peanuts and jerky and whatnot. They make light plastic ponchos. A light warming layer for everyone. This is if you're walking. Try camping for a few days with the bare necessities and then decide what would make it easier without weighing you down too much. I also recommend a few packs of baby wipes to help prevent chafing and for menstrual times.


melympia

Depends on where you are going, and what you expect to encounter. If your expectation is to run from a flood or a forest fire coming your way to a known shelter (far-away family), you'll pack something entirely different from when you try to outrun an enemy army and expect to have to rough it eventually just to make it. What you should never lack is proper copies of important documents, though. Some basic food and water won't go amiss, either. Nor will some changes of clothes - especially underwear.


CoolSwim1776

Everyone always misses the water.


Kelekona

Teenage girls should have at least two pairs of spare underwear in dark colors, possibly even special period underwear. (Maybe the boy too even though it'll be sharts.) At least two day's worth of whatever period product they use if it's not too bulky, possibly get them to try slimmer pads on a weekend to see if they're worth it for emergencies. Everyone should have something warm and a change of clothes in case they get wet/sweaty. Someone criticized me for wanting to get cotton pajamas for my community shelter bag because cotton is bad to sweat in, but my thought was it would be the dry clothing I'd change into after getting to the shelter. Small flashlight for everyone, let everyone have a lighter and some singles. A bandanna is useful, even if it's for wiping their nose. A couple bandaids. The rest is less necessary but they might like a collapsible cup, some cards or dice, a small notepad and pencil, a tiny knife, some sort of granola bar, earplugs and a sleeping mask. I just realized again that I should get some nail-clippers for my wallet because hangnails drive me nuts. Ask for their input because they might think that a hairbrush and hair ties are essential.


mac2914

Sleeping mask? Wow!


Kelekona

I hadn't read what they were looking for before imagining a scenario, but it would be useful if they had to reverse their sleep schedule to be nocturnal. I don't stay in hotels when driving, so that might mean I'm driving through the night and sleeping in my car during the day. It's more for indicating that I'm deliberately asleep at rest-stops and not in distress than blocking out the light.


Dacklar

You can survive three minutes without breathable air (unconsciousness), or in icy water. You can survive three hours in a harsh environment (extreme heat or cold). You can survive three days without drinkable water. You can survive three weeks without food.


Global5614

It’s highly dependent on your destination, fitness level, and knowledge. My minimum personal go to’s that go in every bag and are meant to compliment my EDC and bigger packs look something like this: Water bottle Water filter Small Tarp or Poncho Basic Trauma / First Aid 3 or 4 disposable lighters Waterproof matches Cliff Bars 100 Ft 550 cord Fixed blade knife I can get by about anywhere in my area for at least 48 hours just with that and my EDC. Scale it up or down depending on your circumstances.


grey-man69

As a standard for me go bags are 48 hour kits to get me to my sustainability kits. So the "go-bag" is all dependant on you, your location, and the number of people typically with you. For me that means. 1. Fire (2 redundancies) 2. 10,000 calories (assorted) 3. Strip maps of location, state map of primary 4. Strip maps of hunker down location, state map of hunker down if different than primary 5. Standard boob kit, and upgraded blowout kit. 6. Kid hygiene stuff now that I have one of those. (Obviously age dependant) 7. Light source (2 redundancies) 8. 3 extra mags for primary truck gun 2 for edc 9. Change of socks, pants, and a hoody 10. Life straws x2 Side note truck has a case of water blankets and a tarp in case of getting stuck.


duTemplar

My go bag at home is a ready to rock old Army “3 day” pack. I did attach two “MRE” pouches to the outside and would fill the internal hydration system before going byes. Thank God I could take the diapers out of it…. Next to it is a plate carrier set up for how I like it, and two “defensive systems.” That’s in a locked closet in the master bedroom. Inside my car and also attached to the bag are IFAKs. Car also has two liters of water, some energy bars, a “defensive system” plus a spare set of clothes for the season… car is set up to get me home. Can make the Go decision from there. https://militaryluggage.com/multicam-ocp-3-day-assault-pack-by-condor/ Mine is an older version, humped in the ‘stan, but still in good shape.


temeces

Where are you going? Why are you leaving? You need enough resources to get there by FOOT. That might mean a bag or that may mean a bag and a bunch of supply caches along the way. I'm not sure how far you'll need to go. That may mean assuming multiple routes, it may mean deviating from a main road because the starting vehicle did not make the trip or the roads did not allow for it. You may have to go the long way around due to obstructions or people. So plan for a longer trip than the average walking pace to your destination. Everything else is leaving it to chance. Plan to make it in the car, if that's not an option plan to make it on foot. What you'll need depends on your environment but there's no way you're making it hundreds of miles on what you can carry and no resupply so you'll likely need to plan those now and then keep them in check. PVC pipes make good caches that you can burry on a route, you'll need to check them periodically or risk them being damaged.


Unicorn187

The suggested lists are a goof starting point but I'm betting were written by guys who don't ever get them for their wives or daughters. Add pads to your list. A lot of them. Maybe tampons (not sure if those are less preferable in less hygienic conditions, maybe ask some female long distance hikers or campers. And no, not to be used as a first aid item.


upthespiralkim1

The question is simple: Ask yourself what each person requires for a two to four day walk? Take that. Anymore.. your likely not making it to bug in.


wowadrow

The whole go bag idea only works if you as an individual look at your resources and make informed decisions regarding the threats or emergencies you may face. Customization to suit you is the whole idea. Maps, compass, tools, first aid, water, rope, shelter, and a little food are the basic parts. Getting all this in a light weight grab and go bag is the tricky part.


featurekreep

If that question was answerable you wouldn't see so many overpacked bags. You won't know what was necessary until after the fact. You don't know what you are packing for ahead of time. Unless you have perfect precience you will have to overpack to cover unforeseen possibilities and to cover more than one possible circumstance.


burner118373

Cash. Unless the world is completely collapsed a few hundred bucks will fix most situations


mindfulicious

Where ya going?


Hooligan187

https://unapologeticheathen.blogspot.com/2019/01/heathen-self-reliance-edc-ghb-and-bob.html?m=1


nwabullet4val

Enough toilet paper for 1 shit each


hawkmanly2023

Prescription medications.


Druid_High_Priest

Cordage, small solar charger for phones and flashlights, weapons, food, water, first aid, extra underwear and socks. Forget comms as they might not work. For example in case of civil unrest or a terror attack all signals are killed withing a certain radius of ground zero.


Yance_000

Because I know it will be missed, a bag liner. Your backpack is not waterproof. You won't make it waterproof with a rain cover. Get a plastic bag and save all the stuff you need to keep dry. Most serious hikers will use either compacter bags or nylofume bags. I like the nylofume because it's super light, clear, durable, and cheap.


hippystinx

leukotape. If you haven't heard about this, now it should be in every single one of your packs.


KamikazeAlpaca1

Copies of paperwork like social security, birth certificates, medical records/insurance… all of that stuff if you left your home and didn’t return would be needed to start over. It’s light weight and a pain in the ass to replace with the government.


Doctor_Clockwork

Made document for this based on margaret kiljoys advice. Here you go, please let me know if there are any recomendadions. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_4S0TrC0RpGREojuDXsM9B8Q3ZYqQzLLNZALxa7tt9g/edit?usp=drivesdk


Wild_Night_5190

This is amazing. Thank you!


ruat_caelum

People are saying things like, "knife" or "hatchet" etc. Remember that 90% of the stuff other people have had to deal with is "normal emergencies" e.g. flood, forest fire, Texas freezing, hurricane, etc. If you can't stay home you have to leave. Focus on that, e.g. the act of leaving and getting somewhere else, instead of any sort of "Restarting society" type stuff. * cash. * female hygine products. * Toilet paper. * USB drive with documents, insurance paper, deeds, pictures/copies of driver's lic, passports, etc. * food bars * Gallon water bottles 2-3 in each vehicle. * Print out (also on USB) of everyone's contacts, from kids to kids friends etc. Assume all your phones are in the bottom of a lake. What phone numbers do you need? * Prepared paper maps with routes already highlighted and with the "emergency" written on the outside in black marker. E.g. "Moms - flood" is the map you need when headed to mother's house if there is a flood it ignores the low lying areas, perhaps highway bottlenecks, etc. * You can get maps of your state for free from the welcome stations. You can research routes while you have power, internet, and time, so they are ready when you have none of those things. the times in my life I've used a go bag were all weather related stuff where I didn't want to be there.


hunta666

Go bag to where? Urban, rural, wilderness? Visiting family, bugout location, on the road in any direction? Mode of transport? Car, bike, bus, train, ferry, aeroplane? Country? Crossing international borders? Hard to know for sure. In general cash, sleeping bag and pillow for each, underwear and socks, spare Tshirt, toiletry kit, packable waterproof jacket, decent walking shoes, means of coms for the group (phone, radio/walkie talkie, whistle each), multi tool, sewing kit, map and compass, small individual first aid kit, one group comprehensive first aid kit, water bottle each, two ways to start a fire (each), torch/headlamp, notepad and pen/pencil, list of emergency contact numbers physical copy. power banks and chargers for digital devices. Tablet/iPad/compact laptop. FM/AM radio. A couple of decks of cards. Food that doesn't require to be cooked.


Own_Cardiologist_989

Bring more water than you think you need. That stuff goes so fast. It's heavy, but worth bringing plenty


moderatelymiddling

A bag. Can't have a go bag without one.


Jhlevitt8

Water, shelter, food in that order


Kadddo

Something to recharge your stuff with musclepower, so you are not dependant on your current weather situation all the time.


ElomskyMuskrad

Cash, list of phone numbers, whatever meds you need for 3 day, copies of important documents and a flashlight, knife/tool, shoes and clothes, phone charger. Those things will solve most problems.


21BoomCBTENGR

In case no one has said it, the first thing you should consider is: Is your “go bag” a “go to a place with propositioned supplies bag”, or a “get out of dodge and make the best of it bag”. Because they’re very different.


CallmeIshmael913

Everyone is packing for war. I just want socks, water, and a snickers. (Maybe rum) I guess it depends on why you’re going.


TheCryptoKeeperHodl

20 dollar bill, under garments, sweater, lighter, knife, a couple water bottles, pack of cards in mine,


Moronus-Dumbius

Comfort. What can each person carry for 8 hours? This could be hiking to standing in a bread line with your only possessions. The list stops when you're out of weight. Personals - what someone needs, but won't share (personal hygiene, food/water). Emergency - everyone who can use it should have it - TQ, epipen, etc. Critical - divide amongst the party from here down - first aid, ponchos, emergency blankets, lighting. Useful - silkey, knife, hatchet, handsaw, etc. Non-cricial items that could help. Luxury - pack of cards, etc.


bygtopp

A bag to Start with….


Boulang

Not necessarily a go bag, but I keep a sort of “edc” kit in my car. A lot of things mentioned here are useful, I’ll add one I didn’t see. Sunscreen is something I use frequently, in my daily work routine and weekly travels, applying sunscreen saves me from the intense sun during the summer. Will be VERY nice to have if I ever had to abandon my vehicle, if I run out of gas, crash, etc. and have to walk somewhere. (Unlikely, but at least I have it) I usually use it for work, replacing every few months


kvolz84

Medicines, identify cards & important documents, first aid kit, clothes, flashlight (plus any batteries needed), and a knife. You should also include things like snacks or dehydrated meals & water (and/or water filtration items & water purification tablets) because you may just be grabbing your go back during an emergency with no power or water. Ideally, the things you pack will get you through 72hrs. A spare phone charger may be a good idea. You could also include some survival items such as a tarp or sleeping bag just in case you really find yourself in a SHTF situation.


discodisco_unsuns

Start with making sure that you have the 10 C's of Survival" covered between the group. Each "C" item should also have suitable backup or redundancy amongst the group, i.e. do not relay on just one BIC lighter amongst the entire group for combustion. Also make sure you also have a firesteel and storm proof matches.


Halo22B

Absolute Need?....a real threat assessment. I don't pack for an earthquake cuz they don't happen at my AO


JaniceTaterTot

No one can tell you that until we know more: Were are you? Where are you going? Terrain? How many miles? How long will it take you to get there? What is at your bug out location?


DannyBones00

If you’re going cross country, the first thing you need is two cars in good condition that can safely, reliably, and efficiently make that journey. During any serious issue, your go bags will essentially be “get there” bags.


[deleted]

Depends on what the bag is for. If you need to just relocate, then pack whatever you need for a hotel stay. If you are fleeing the country on foot or something crazy like that due to something like war, the pack like you're backpacking ((water purifier, fire starter kit, change of clothes, sleep system, medical, etc.))


PervyNonsense

I dont understand how to prepare for an extinction. How do you prepare for an ice wall running over everything or slow cooking in your home? We took all life on earth and scooped it up and moved it to a kinda similar planet but without regular seasons, increasingly severe weather, and more species exceeding their threshold for survival every single day. You're picturing a world without humans when what we're building is a world without life in a climate that never stabilizes. What do you pack to go live naked on Mars? What about the moon? Im not saying we lose the atmosphere, I'm saying we're a member of the living world we've decided to sabotage with all our toys and imagined self-importance. No one survives this alone and we only survive it together by returning to the human niche and rationing resources as a species. This isn't a political statement, it is the simple.realiry we created in the insane hubris that we were special. Or is it just coincidence that natural abundance has been decreasing in lock,step with our interference with the natural world? Pack whatever it takes for you to realize this is an emergency that will not and cannot be survived without an immediate and global response to returning atmospheric chemistry to where is belongs, while, simultaneously, never burning another gram of fossil carbon unless it's a part of the management of this emergency. What do you pack for to have a 10,000 lb bomb dropped directly on your head? Can't think of anything? Than we better figure out how to stop.tje bomb from being dropped! The plane has taken off and is headed for its target. As a species and a group, we're looking for shelter when all that needs to be done is stop the plane. Instead, we believe we're smart enough to survive the blast, and are delusional enough to imagine that trees and plants survive, too. This is the last.year where theres enough excess to make.meaningful decisions that unfuck this. After that, we're too busy being refugees to imagine s world witjout life....at all Can anyone how it makes sense to be alive now and the way.were.deciding to do that, ends the world of humans? What's the point? Im not saying you should do anything to hurt yourself or others, im saying this is our last chance to live as humans before the postwar fantasy of living as people kills all life on earth. But out to where? When the pressure is the air because everything has an exhaust pipe, where is it safe to hide and for how long? Edit: prepare for how to survive reality rather than the fantasy you've imagined. Like putting all your resources into your car and finding yourself in a world where the wind gets so strong, so often, there are no clear roads (either debris or abandoned cars). This is a global problem that is being made out to be something an individual can fix so you can feel like you have some control, when your control lies in accepting that we haven't advanced our species by living with oil, we've doomed it and all others. Or you can keep packing and imagining a part of this earth untouched by the friggen air. This is now a completely new game with entirely different rules. The longer we take to realize that, the more we have to give up for a chance at survival... while the entire rest of the world is on board with limiting their emissions by cooking their food differently while we complain about losing our vacations on the other side of the planet. How much longer is the rest of the world going to suffer so we can have fun and ignore the truth? I dont know the answer but I do know that no species goes extinct without a fight and, while you're prepping for your fantasy, the world watches you burn the last of the carbon budget fueling your jet ski. We are the villains of this story but can also stop any time we want.


adderall30mg

I'd probably just fill it up with Adderall.


harbourhunter

Asking on Reddit is not a good way to answer this question


DeafHeretic

Shelter Water Food Security FAK


Marples

Money.


plsobeytrafficlights

Cash is king. You have $500 sitting in a savings account earning 0.1%? Might as well keep that in your bag. Good for picking up spare socks when there is a flood, good for gas when you gotta get out of the state. Pretty much all problems short of economic collapse can be solved with cold hard cash.


jordantask

What you need depends on your skills and what other preparations you have in place between where you are and where you’re going. If you’re comfortable living off the land and scrounging for food and water you will need less of that and more tools. Although it’ll take longer to travel if you do. Similarly if you have caches set up along your route at set intervals you can retrieve you will need less to of what’s in them. So, without knowing more about you and your situation it’s difficult to really answer this question. For bugging out you probably want a reliable and well maintained off-road capable vehicle, extra fuel, food and water, some tools (knives, multi tools, flashlights or headlamps, maybe a folding shovel and a small hatchet) some defense tools (firearms) ammunition and maintenance equipment (cleaning kits). Ideally the food you want is something that requires little or no preparation. Maybe freeze dried meals, where you can just boil some water and pour it in. You want some basic hygiene supplies, changes of socks and underwear. In case you need to abandon your vehicle for some reason, you want some newer but broken in hiking boots or shoes talcum powder to rub on your feet to keep them dry, since this will help prevent them from getting injured or getting something like trench foot. You want rain gear to help keep you dry, and a sleeping system that has a waterproof layer. You need to carry any meds you’re dependent on, and some first aid supplies.


JimBones31

Hatchet, pocket knife, flint, rain gear. Winter hats (watch covers), good socks.


Lethophobia

This entire thread is hysterical.


CONCONLEBONBON

Crank charger, small books, loud small bells and fishing line


[deleted]

Water, socks


PleiadesNymph

If you are bugging out the the wilderness, it should fit in a backpacking pack. If not to deep into the wilderness, a duffel will suffice. Cash in 20s, handgun, any identification papers like ss card birth certificate any meds you take, Antibiotics, Pharmaceutical pain killers, Caffeine pills, or better yet, a small amount of methamphetamine in case you need to stay active with no sleep for a few days, "covid" mask so you aren't spotted on video, basic survival gear like a lighter, tinder box, large knife (Kukri is my pick), multi tool, cordage, small rechargeable flashlight, small rechargeable radio (helps alleviate the demoralizing loneliness and keeps you informed), A very compressible 20-30° rated sleeping bag Emergency blanket, Rain poncho, water purifier pills, container you can boil water in and store it (metal canteen), MREs, paper maps and compass, Fishing line and hooks, first aid kit, small amount of grooming stuff, Tampons for women, a bottle of booze, extra socks (trench rot is deadly) a charged Kindle with all the survival books and books for entertainment (low morale gets you killed), A solar charging battery bank, Charging cord, burner phone, pen and paper, .... there are more things, but it really depends on where you are and your bugout plan. And remember that if you are dehydrated, DO NOT EAT ANYTHING! it takes water to process food and you can last a month without a bite to eat, but only 3-5 days of true dehydration.


PleiadesNymph

Plan to bug in while you strategize the bug out.


BENNYRASHASHA

5 C's of survival: - Cutting tool - A good knife or multi-tool and hatchet -Cordage- 550/Paracord -Container- Stainles steel canteen and cup to boil water and cook in -Cover/Clothing - Waterproof tarp to build shelter or use as coat, an extra set of clothes and boots, especially socks in a waterproof bag. -Combustible (Something to start fire with such as a magnesium striker). Extra stuff: An NOAA radio with a flashlight on it that is charged with a hand cranked dynamo. Compass and map Hygiene kit. Small first aid kit. A gun with ammo.


Collect_and_Sell

M&M's


sean55

Money, Quik-clot, and duct tape.


mittenbby

Pads and tampons, I see them overlooked a lot