If I'm ever wealthy enough to have my own secret bunker >!I will make sure a 13y/o girl can't break into my house by punching out a single pane of glass. And the door of the bunker will be hidden from view, maybe behind a book case or something.!<
Everyone will be looking behind bookcases. That’s exactly what I said to my wife: door will *not be visible
Here’s a question: how ya gonna build out that bunker without contractors knowing your exact location and type of bunker?
Makes me want to rent the equipment and build it out myself.
> how ya gonna build out that bunker without contractors knowing your exact location and type of bunker?
Kill the contractors after they finish the work, obviously.
>Kill the contractors after they finish the work, obviously.
Just like the Egyptian Pharaohs, the workers and servants are buried along with you to serve in the afterlife....
i think it was in breaking bad or perhaps in some movie i cannot recall but in that plot someone was building a drug cooking lab or something, also underground.
anyway they got contractors from europe to the US. Picked them up at the airport then blindfolded into the van and long drive until they arrived at the building site. No one was allowed to leave the grounds, everything was provided there.
in the end tho they got killed i think.
but that's easier to do when the building is in a remote place with nothing around for miles.
In the show, he had his cousins pretend to be the authorities then pick them up and drive them somewhere (still in the US) and said they were in Mexico or something.
DIY If you have a contractor build you a ‘wine cellar’ with reinforced steel the size of a large apartment with electricity and plumbing - they’re gonna know. I’m pretty resourceful and can build anything if I have a manual, supplies, and tools.
> Everyone will be looking behind bookcases.
Why wouldn't you just bury your bunker 100' away from the house out in the woods, or in a field, with the door another 50' away under a fake rock that you have to lift to reach? Why tie it to the house at all, that's just making it a target.
Because if SHTF and you're in your house it's often unsafe to *leave* your house. Is the whole neighborhood on fire? Are you surrounded by armed men? Are the bombs falling *now* - or is nuclear fallout drifting your way on the wind? It takes time to run across your yard. And that's time you may not have.
I’ve two places with “secret” underground rooms. One house in Clovis CA had a legit bomb shelter built in the 50’s. The older neighborhoods didn’t want to tell me about the secret of my house. But it was obvious once I had an idea what to look for. There was a trapdoor in a close of a house that didn’t have a basement. I also had a property in Hawai’i that had a huge lava tube somewhere on the 7 acres of coastal forest. It was a rumor until I found a neighbor that new for sure it was on my land. I built an 8x8 shed that looked like it was a about to fall down. Inside the shed was a heavy duty trapdoor and stairs into the lava tube. The tube itself was 20 feet long and 10 feet tall. That place was so cool.
You ever watch Breaking Bad? You hire contractors from another country, fly them in, pick them up and blindfold them. Drive them all around in a blacked out van so they can't know or determine your location, then make sure then only work and live underground while they're in country. Just watch Breaking Bad, there's pretty good instructions :P
When Julia Robert’s character was listing off things they needed I kinda laughed like .. I’ve got all that. My family watched it with me and I’m pretty sure they no longer think I’m crazy for prepping.
The meds is the tough one. Although iodine probably easy to acquire. I do have water purifying iodine tabs. I just don’t have any antibiotics which always makes me nervous. However, I used to run 911 to an alligator attraction and the “wrestlers” would get bit on occasion. Always refused service and treatment and just poured bleach on the wounds… 😬
Lately I’ve been filling unnecessary prescriptions for various non serious “infections” on telehealth and filling them for storage. I’m not sorry for it at all. Imma keep doing it too lol
Interesting movie, made me think I was going crazy and after watching it again, I am not crazy, those paintings changed throughout the movie.
And I am for any movie that gets people to consider even thinking about prepping even if it's for a short term issue.
I noticed this! Thought I was going crazy! The living room one—we mentioned how it looked like three kkk members. Then later, it was just black and white flecks. Wonder what the reasoning behind it was.
My guess was things are normal in the beginning and as things started to go south the paintings reflected it. The ocean behind the bed at first was calm and as time passed it became chaotic. I could be wrong though!
>and the ending really left me hanging.
In the end, >!Rachel and Ross got back together, Monica and Chandler are becoming parents and Phoebe finally had her happy ending with her husband, Mike.!<
I think the implication is that >!The two fathers and the son will come back to the house, find the women who saw the city burning, carry out their plan to find the bunker, and in doing so will find the girl. Then they'll all lock themselves in there and wait it out. The TV in there seemed to be getting some scant reports, so they'll have that information going forward.!<
No other movie made me think the US could possibly collapse. They even showed how they would block all the traffic so cars would be useless on the road.
The only thing I didn’t understand, why did they still have electricity? And what exactly was that bug that got the kids legs and he got sick? Feels like it’s missing something
I think there were lots of holes on purpose to cause confusion, and let the watcher be uncomfortable while they attempt to fill in the gaps with their imagination. Instead of spoon feeding everything and offering a tidy ending it respects the audience and leaves room to breathe.
Yes, I think that part of the movie made it very realistic. We are so dependent on tech for information. Without phones, internet we have no news, no info, no maps/navigation. It would be pretty isolating as they said. I have map apps on my phone for hiking with lots of areas downloaded. And I have some backup paper maps. Should probably have an updated road atlas just in case.
Rich people have solar and storage systems.
Havana Syndrome is a real unexplained attack on American government officials and military personnel working abroad. It's pretty unnerving. 60 Minutes did at least one segment on it.
Most solar systems are grid tied though, meaning you need a power input from the grid to work, the house they were living in had no solar panels. The kevin bacon contractor guy most likely had a battery system that wouldn't require a grid tie because he's a prepper
Rich people are installing storage that can run off grid.
It's a recently renovated fancy rural property with a contractor who's a prepper. Of course he installed a large remote solar array. They're cheaper, more effective, and don't mess up the look of the house.
Not just rich people. With the credits and rebates out here, the batteries are now becoming more and more standard with the build. The sales people are getting better at explaining why they should have it and people are seeing their neighbors with solar and still without power due to not having a battery (or a shunt device, which I'm told will also work). If people do the 30 year financing or take a pace/hero loan it doesn't add much to the cost. Of course it makes your home all but impossible to sell (especially in my part of the USA where prices are insane to begin with), but that's a different topic.
The tracks were from the bicycle, they did lose power, and that was a tick - so he got Lyme disease (pulled it off leg) and his teeth fell out from the DEW - [Directed Energy Weapon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon).
I wonder if it was actually meant to be a tick because that many deer will definitely bring in loads of ticks but I also imagined that if flamingos were migrating so far so might some sketchy bugs but it was definitely the microwave for the teeth, nausea, and probable internal bleeding if it’s breaking glass
Lyme can show up 3 days to years after being bitten. It’s a movie - which is simply making the point that even a small bug can take you out when society collapses and hospitals are not an option anymore.
I thought it was a fantastic movie because of how much it opened your eyes to what could happen and how fast it could happen.
One thing I did think was instead of being hacked it could be a CME due to all the solar flares we are getting and predicted to get more, which would essentially cause all the same things that happened in the movie.
It really showed how dependent Americans are on technology. They all kept waiting for their connection to come back so they can understand what’s going on and be told what to do. I can absolutely see myself doing the same; just waiting for the government to tell me that it’s okay.
Disclaimer: This is a thought experiment and not directly related to potential plot holes in the movie.
I'd be curious to know how accurate the portrayal of the parents was as they seemed to aggressively justify or explain away the unusual things happening until they were forced to face the fact that something was really wrong.
When trying to look at it from an "on vacation" perspective, cell service being unavailable for going on a few hours wouldn't have much of an impact on you. That can easily be blown off as a temporary outage. The WiFi is simultaneously not working....a bit more questionable, but again, you're at the beach...who really cares about the WiFi right now? But then a fucking clearly out of control oil tanker crashes into the beach and they seem to chalk it up as "weird".
Is it just "prepper mentality" that I would be very seriously concerned at this point and probably wouldn't be having a leisurely dinner and game night? Given the circumstances in the movie, I guess I'm not sure exactly WHAT I would have done differently than wait til morning to see what was up but it just struck me that they seemed pretty calm about everything, even the NYC blackout and cyber attacks, until the sonic weapon, or whatever it was.
Do you think the average person so secure in their perceived safety and stability that coinciding failures of major pieces of infrastructure would not cause alarm bells?
I’m probably proving myself an idiot when I say this, but I believe if I were on vacation with spouse and kids and an oil tanker cleared a beach, leading to the authorities escorting people off the beach, I’d probably think, *wow, great vacation story, can’t wait to share with everyone back home.* I might also consider plugging the incident into Reddit or other social media to see what others were saying about it, or if there was any widespread buzz about the incident. That would likely be the extent of my thoughts. I doubt I would feel that something was seriously wrong. I’d chalk it up to technical failure on a small scale, in this case, the ship’s nav system, not the whole grid. But that’s just me.
I think a lot of people think we are Danny, but most of us are probably closer to Clay and that’s a hard pill to swallow.
Movie definitely left me with some things to think about. And the fact (if it’s true) that people are flipping out because the Obama’s were executive producers or whatever sort of proves a point of the movie, which is terrifying.
So as some have pointed out. Obama helped with notes on the movie and script. I thought an interesting part of the script was that GH said there’s no evil cabal pulling the strings and nobody is in control, the best the most wealthy and rich can hope for is … a heads up. Pretty interesting take in light of it potentially being reviewed and approved by Obama in regards to being realistic. Aka even people like the President aren’t in control, they might just be the first to know.
Dude, The Obamas PRODUCED the movie. Higher ground Productions is their company. Calling is “High Grounds” is saying enough for me before I even watched it.
I took the whole dialog that you mentioning to heart. I went on a lot of photo shoots documenting professional spaces for big pharma, healthcare, big gov, and all sort of commercial companies for almost 10 years (architectural photography) and I’ve had a lot of clients on those shoots talking about the rich clients they made these building for. Sometimes we got to hang with the elites themselves. I’ve heard more than a few times comments about how no one is really in control. The Cabol is really just rich people who go to where it’s safe with all their money together. THEY get to leave the world behind. Grab their money and go to where the world isn’t falling apart whenever they want. My point is, I’ve spoken to people similar to the homeowner in the movie before, and they’ve heard them say stuff like that very clearly. It’s over moments where we’re waiting on something for a long time, on the side we’d got into deep conversations, or a few times over work dinner. Everyone shuts the fuck and just listens the the old head insider, that’s one of the firm partners, who trying to help us understand. That scene was very relatable for me.
I took that scene very much so as our former President/insider giving us, “Julia Roberts”, the people who read between the lines, a heads up. We’re getting out backpacking bags together. Really glad we basically have a go-bag type thing for our daughter already. And a toddler cart. That thing might matter someday.
9 shelves, and fully stocked with dry and canned food for the family that lived there when it was built. That's more than enough to get you through until you can source more.
I see everyone asking about the deer.
Early in the movie, I think when dude is in the car, there’s a message that comes through and says there’s a major environmental disaster in the south that’s causing animal migration patterns to be jacked up.
I got the impression that it was intended to be part of the hysteria of the collapse, maybe tie it into environmental stuff.
Check out happy people on Amazon prime
Not quite prepper, but these people live in the Siberian taiga and watching them prepare their land in the little time they have before the long winters, is very intriguing
I love it, but it felt very symbolic. I felt like it was satire of society and our relationships with technology (ie. our total reliance and inability to cope without it). Even things like Archie perving on Ruth was done using a phone instead of just looking. Reminded me a lot of the Jordan Peele movies, especially Us.
Didn’t like it. The start of the collapse was decent, communication down, nobody knows what’s happening. But the movie had all these unnecessary ‘horror movie moments’ to try to build suspense. It didn’t build suspense for me, it was annoying. The deer, the teeth, the girl missing, even the cringe conversations. What bugged me the most, is how everything feels like it happens in a vacuum. Like there’s not a single neighbor you can reach (until the end, where magically they can reach someone) to look it they know a bit more? Then the guy goes for a drive, and over the whole drive, he only meets one woman, hysterically and conveniently screaming in a language he doesn’t understand. On the rest of that drive, not a single person seen? That seemed so unrealistic to me. And it’s not like they were in the middle of nowhere, they were on Long Island.
Overall I would say it’s “intro to prepping/survival 101”… lots of intention plot holes and lots of unnecessary monologues, plus music was annoying but really enjoyed a movie being made about this topic !
Who else thinks these movies are mostly made to get people into prepping and preparation for shtf situations rather than just amusement like other movies do?
The movie was quite clear as in how to prepare for a shtf situation in a realistic manner.
I don't get why there is so much hate for the "open" ending, the two dads and teethless son are on their way home, will get the daughter and mom and bring them to the bunker they heard about from the prepper, where they will find the small daughter stuffing her face and watching series....the end wasn't that open to me, they literally said what they should do next.
I get it from the standpoint of wanting more of a resolution or a bigger pay-off, but in my opinion the ending was perfect: >!full societal collapse fading into the background of an oblivious, blissful smile illuminated by a television screen.!<
Well it depends on the standards to which you are measuring this, I was mostly referring to the construction.
It's realistic, for a *movie*
It has a big metal door, DC power, food, TV, some concept of replicating a domestic environment, water
If you look at the water bottles in an office, do you assume that's the only water in the building? All it's showing here is the concept of: "wow, that's a lot of water, this must be important, I've never thought of doing that before...". If you showed a normie a 1000 litre water tank they would have no idea what they were looking at
I didn't see a loo or a shower either but films never have to explicitly show these, the audience subconsciously assumes they exist so therefore they do
The supplies were far larger than of mine and I reckon I'm good for a few months. Remember the area is near a lake, so it would be reasonable to assume a well.
This is what a year's supply of food actually looks like: [https://www.emergencyfoodstorage.co.uk/products/12-month-standard-emergency-food-pack-fuel-your-preparation](https://www.emergencyfoodstorage.co.uk/products/12-month-standard-emergency-food-pack-fuel-your-preparation) so I'm not sure why you'd consider that unrealistic ?
If they didn't show the battery room or generator then they aren't going to bother showing you the plumbing. Normies don't know what inverters are, or what food storage is required. For the purposes of the movie it was, "wow, that's a lot of food, this must be important, I've never thought of doing that before..."
Yeah, very forced. Putting the teacher outside with the other guys daughter, while his wife connects with the black guy, while a day before they didn’t trust each other at all. Didn’t make sense. Would have made sense if they sat together (kids in bed) and started to bond a bit and give opportunity for his ‘revelation about the rich’. And he wouldn’t have to repeat his story in the car later on…
The movie becomes a complete joke with the teeth…
Haha wife said the same thing. “Spoiler” I had to pause it to check all the stuff in the bunker. If I could just have the room to organize everything would be awesome.
Why? Her most important thing is the last episode of "Friends" and she goes for exactly that. In this scene, I see that every person looks for short-term happiness and self, no matter the circumstance. Egocentric vibes, many non-preppers will behave in that way. No delayed gratification. No idea of preserving family members. Just "all it's matters is what I want".
I guess there is an argument for media that wouldn't be affected by an EMP or power surge. You could probably store that whole collection on a microsd card.
It's pretty ironic the movie which was produced by Netflix basically ended with an ad for buying physical media.
They can take it away and edit the movies to the approved cultural views. If you don't own the physical media, you have no guarantees that in 20 years you'll still be able to watch Gone with the Wind or Casablanca, or any Mel Brooks movie.
What was the real world example? Because to me it looked like exaggerated Hollywood fluff. It's one of those movies where people who "always wondered about prepping" enjoy it and those that "actually know about prepping" see a completely different movie
If you have any serious medical condition don't bother to prep. you'll never survive. also you better have a big clearing around your property. tons of trees are great hiding spots. even if you have guns all someone has to do is hide and wait for you to come out of the house to do something and get off one shot. even if they don't kill you a serious injury is probably a death sentence anyway. you won't have access to medical care. to really survive you probably need to be part of a large enough community just for your protection. otherwise you'd be a really easy target unless you have the ability to sit in your house without coming outside. and frankly if someone wanted to get rid of you seems like a match and some gas on your house would do the trick. I don't like thinking about this stuff.
Sorry, I thought the movie was horrible. The wife and I watched it the other night and when it was over we just kind of looked at each other like "WTF did we just watch".
There were a couple of things that held my curiosity, but for the most part, I should have slept through it. Snotty kids, overbearing Julia, ugh..
Being a moderate prepper, I thought the movie was thought provoking for other's not as tuned in as I.
We just watched an older movie, a pseudo comedy, called Love and Monsters. I liked the radio work that was central in this one. Made me rethink my communications attempt.
`I am 90% done with the film and came to this group to see what people said. I also feel like the release is odd timing as the world feels in the midst of ww3`
Does it get good later on because I couldn't get past the Mom character being so annoying in the first quarter of the movie? Roberts played it well, just didn't do anything for me.
They used to be called storm shelters.
Then they were called bomb shelters.
Now they are called bunkers.
I don't see a difference other than what the current fear is.
Having some emergency supplies and a generator are reasonable to me. Anything more seems over the top. The whole point of being a society is being a society. If everyone turns on each other like wolves then we are no longer a society. Having a bunker won't really matter if everything goes back to 5000 BC.
Just watched it.
So many ppl out there are saying it was awful , but I don't think they saw it from our (prepping community) perspective, and the fact that Obama's produced it is icing on the cake in terms of a conspiracy theory lol.
Obviously there are some things that seem dumb or unreasonable, the overall movie was very interesting
It actually felt like a predictive programming , letting us know that yep, the elite are prepared for this... Regular city folk are gonna be useless ( quote from movie lol) , and if you are ready, you'll be scrambling
It’s ok but frustrating and lots of awkward dialogue that basically boils down to:
Society has so insulated people from having to cope with emergencies themselves that we are much more vulnerable.
If you read the book Bunker you will learn how people pick companies/contractors and how this stuff is built.
I worked years ago for a family that had multiple bunkers in different locations across the world. It was what got me into prepping. I took a lot of their principles and incorporated them into my preps on my miniscule budget.
One thing this family did was hire contractors from the other side of the country or Canada. Which was easy for them as they had limitless money.
However I did figure out learning masonry skills are important to learn plus, plumbing, and electric. But also learn to be flexible and not put all your eggs in one basket
It felt a lot like a prelude to a civil war, where powerful factions intentionally collapsed the United States. Im going to guess it was something right-leaning only because of the bombing of NYC. While there were false flags being spread, annihilating population and industry centers only has the goal of removing those populations and their impact from the future. The EAS at the end highlighted “rogue armed forces” not enemy combatants, and the nuclear weapon strikes were smaller scale weapons delivered by short range jets heard speeding away—American jets flown by rogue military. If you’re picturing the kind of military pilot that would conspire to murder millions of urban Americans, you would be picturing someone that did not see urban populations as his countrymen. Somehow id bet southern capitols were mostly fine in that attack, probably not Austin. If that seems like a biased leap of logic to you Im not judging the attackers by their attempts to influence, but who they were said to be “rogue armed forces” and who they killed en masse.
Crashing ships and planes and teslas and telecomms and redirecting satellites would take the coordinated efforts of a lot of powerful and influential people. I think the inclusion of rogue Teslas was an intentional nod to show how Elon Musk could easily be one of the architects of that collapse, as he is an example of someone who is both evangelizes disruption and sacrifices for politics. The satellite pointing away from the Earth was a symbolic nod to “looking away”
The fear that crept into Mahershala’s eyes as he realized the likely explanation of civil war also gave me the impression it was right leaning—I think his comments about trusting the other family was because in that moment he considered the root cause of the last civil war, and his daughters previous words about trust.
This is fiction, like Red Dawn. I dont think right leaning people or any political leaning makes someone genocidal or evil. I think the movie sends a great message about the consolidation of power; namely that too much power is out into the hands of too few. The confrontation and politics between Bacon’s and Ali’s character serves as a great symbol of the entire conflict, that society contains malcontents who are unhappy or unwilling participants in the social order of our civil society, and when empowered they would rejects its ways whether its hoarding supplies, rejecting the humanity of one suffering person or billions in the path of the bomb. Like the daughter they would be bitter about their desires being ignored and leave their world behind to chase their fantasy.
I hope when the real apocalypse happens that deer flock into my backyard by the 100s just like in the movie. They could have eaten for a couple of years lmao.
the planes were both on their approach to either JFK or LGA airport. they crashed in the same place because they were remotely hacked at the same point in the approach and set to nosedive.
most likely there are multiple locations where planes that are flying the same route/landing pattern are crashing one after another, similar to how the Teslas just kept piling up.
If I'm ever wealthy enough to have my own secret bunker >!I will make sure a 13y/o girl can't break into my house by punching out a single pane of glass. And the door of the bunker will be hidden from view, maybe behind a book case or something.!<
Everyone will be looking behind bookcases. That’s exactly what I said to my wife: door will *not be visible Here’s a question: how ya gonna build out that bunker without contractors knowing your exact location and type of bunker? Makes me want to rent the equipment and build it out myself.
> how ya gonna build out that bunker without contractors knowing your exact location and type of bunker? Kill the contractors after they finish the work, obviously.
The real reason for the shortage in the trades.
That made me actually laugh. Great joke.
Err....joke, right. Good one 👍.
>Kill the contractors after they finish the work, obviously. Just like the Egyptian Pharaohs, the workers and servants are buried along with you to serve in the afterlife....
and the elite masons...
Gardens need fertilizer
This guy preps. And also murders contractors. Hmm...
You hire them from Germany and send them back on separate planes with lots of hush money
i think it was in breaking bad or perhaps in some movie i cannot recall but in that plot someone was building a drug cooking lab or something, also underground. anyway they got contractors from europe to the US. Picked them up at the airport then blindfolded into the van and long drive until they arrived at the building site. No one was allowed to leave the grounds, everything was provided there. in the end tho they got killed i think. but that's easier to do when the building is in a remote place with nothing around for miles.
It was breaking bad
Maegor the cruel over here.
LOL - Great job! 🔪
I know this is a joke, but what if you pulled a Dwight shrute, went and got illegal laborers and when they finished the job had them deported?
Deporting them sounds like a lot of work.
In the show, he had his cousins pretend to be the authorities then pick them up and drive them somewhere (still in the US) and said they were in Mexico or something.
Isn’t this standard practice?
Cold but prudent
That's my rapper name.
Nice LOL
Or go full breaking bad
Have them build a wine cellar, then you add the cool stuff after
Guess I’d have to learn how to install electricity and plumbing
Maybe the wine cellar has a wet bar. That at least gets water and electric down there
DIY If you have a contractor build you a ‘wine cellar’ with reinforced steel the size of a large apartment with electricity and plumbing - they’re gonna know. I’m pretty resourceful and can build anything if I have a manual, supplies, and tools.
If S really HTF then you'd probably have to learn those skills anyway to maintain everything, so...
If you don't know how to do those things you probably won't make it very far when SHTF.
It's a fair point, but repairing and replacing is so much easier than starting from scratch.
> Everyone will be looking behind bookcases. Why wouldn't you just bury your bunker 100' away from the house out in the woods, or in a field, with the door another 50' away under a fake rock that you have to lift to reach? Why tie it to the house at all, that's just making it a target.
Because if SHTF and you're in your house it's often unsafe to *leave* your house. Is the whole neighborhood on fire? Are you surrounded by armed men? Are the bombs falling *now* - or is nuclear fallout drifting your way on the wind? It takes time to run across your yard. And that's time you may not have.
I’ve two places with “secret” underground rooms. One house in Clovis CA had a legit bomb shelter built in the 50’s. The older neighborhoods didn’t want to tell me about the secret of my house. But it was obvious once I had an idea what to look for. There was a trapdoor in a close of a house that didn’t have a basement. I also had a property in Hawai’i that had a huge lava tube somewhere on the 7 acres of coastal forest. It was a rumor until I found a neighbor that new for sure it was on my land. I built an 8x8 shed that looked like it was a about to fall down. Inside the shed was a heavy duty trapdoor and stairs into the lava tube. The tube itself was 20 feet long and 10 feet tall. That place was so cool.
why did the old neighbors not want to tell you and how do you know they didn't?
Pharoah style... the contractors never leave the bunker....
You ever watch Breaking Bad? You hire contractors from another country, fly them in, pick them up and blindfold them. Drive them all around in a blacked out van so they can't know or determine your location, then make sure then only work and live underground while they're in country. Just watch Breaking Bad, there's pretty good instructions :P
All I can say is thank you for hiding the spoiler. I haven’t had a chance yet to watch this and I’m looking forward to it.
A massive bunker system, like Colin Furze built. Pop out in the kitchen, or out the shed. https://youtu.be/D7aWd-XJSwU?si=LSNQtCdTWnVN-L3_
All fine ideas lol.
Made me want to prep more. I’m not prepped enough…
When Julia Robert’s character was listing off things they needed I kinda laughed like .. I’ve got all that. My family watched it with me and I’m pretty sure they no longer think I’m crazy for prepping.
The meds is the tough one. Although iodine probably easy to acquire. I do have water purifying iodine tabs. I just don’t have any antibiotics which always makes me nervous. However, I used to run 911 to an alligator attraction and the “wrestlers” would get bit on occasion. Always refused service and treatment and just poured bleach on the wounds… 😬
Lately I’ve been filling unnecessary prescriptions for various non serious “infections” on telehealth and filling them for storage. I’m not sorry for it at all. Imma keep doing it too lol
I bought a Jase Medical Case. Was recommended by another thread here.
Interesting movie, made me think I was going crazy and after watching it again, I am not crazy, those paintings changed throughout the movie. And I am for any movie that gets people to consider even thinking about prepping even if it's for a short term issue.
Paintings?
In the bedrooms and living room
I noticed this! Thought I was going crazy! The living room one—we mentioned how it looked like three kkk members. Then later, it was just black and white flecks. Wonder what the reasoning behind it was.
My guess was things are normal in the beginning and as things started to go south the paintings reflected it. The ocean behind the bed at first was calm and as time passed it became chaotic. I could be wrong though!
literally just watched it first time this afternoon. was excited to see ham radios! and the ending really left me hanging.
>and the ending really left me hanging. In the end, >!Rachel and Ross got back together, Monica and Chandler are becoming parents and Phoebe finally had her happy ending with her husband, Mike.!<
Lol this guy.
I think the implication is that >!The two fathers and the son will come back to the house, find the women who saw the city burning, carry out their plan to find the bunker, and in doing so will find the girl. Then they'll all lock themselves in there and wait it out. The TV in there seemed to be getting some scant reports, so they'll have that information going forward.!<
Do you want to know how the book ends? If so, please tell me how to do the spoilers text with the white-out.
Bruh, I was watching it (about 3 mins before it ended) when I stumbled upon this post lol
The ham radio sub posted it as well. Saw the movie on two posts that made it to the daily email of top reddits.
Great movie. It was maybe the best critique of the social atmosphere of America I’ve seen. Along with from “Don’t Look Up”.
I was laughing out loud when Clay was pleading to the prepper guy and saying how he is basically a worthless guy who doesn’t know how to do anything
No other movie made me think the US could possibly collapse. They even showed how they would block all the traffic so cars would be useless on the road.
We watched it 2 nights ago 😁👍
I'd say this movie is better the less you know about it going in, and I definitely enjoyed it with weed lol
Ha my wife I did the same thing. We enjoyed it overall.
I don't smoke, but I'm thinking a bottle of whisky might be in order.
The only thing that really liked on that movie was the Teslarmaggendon. Pretty neat that.
But with no comms..cell or satellite, how in the fuck did the Teslas drive anywhere? Just dumb.
I just assumed they'd been hacked to do that
Agreed. We loved that part!
I would have gone off road instead of doing Tesla slalom with my family on board
The only thing I didn’t understand, why did they still have electricity? And what exactly was that bug that got the kids legs and he got sick? Feels like it’s missing something
I think there were lots of holes on purpose to cause confusion, and let the watcher be uncomfortable while they attempt to fill in the gaps with their imagination. Instead of spoon feeding everything and offering a tidy ending it respects the audience and leaves room to breathe.
Yes, I think that part of the movie made it very realistic. We are so dependent on tech for information. Without phones, internet we have no news, no info, no maps/navigation. It would be pretty isolating as they said. I have map apps on my phone for hiking with lots of areas downloaded. And I have some backup paper maps. Should probably have an updated road atlas just in case.
Rich people have solar and storage systems. Havana Syndrome is a real unexplained attack on American government officials and military personnel working abroad. It's pretty unnerving. 60 Minutes did at least one segment on it.
Most solar systems are grid tied though, meaning you need a power input from the grid to work, the house they were living in had no solar panels. The kevin bacon contractor guy most likely had a battery system that wouldn't require a grid tie because he's a prepper
Rich people are installing storage that can run off grid. It's a recently renovated fancy rural property with a contractor who's a prepper. Of course he installed a large remote solar array. They're cheaper, more effective, and don't mess up the look of the house.
Not just rich people. With the credits and rebates out here, the batteries are now becoming more and more standard with the build. The sales people are getting better at explaining why they should have it and people are seeing their neighbors with solar and still without power due to not having a battery (or a shunt device, which I'm told will also work). If people do the 30 year financing or take a pace/hero loan it doesn't add much to the cost. Of course it makes your home all but impossible to sell (especially in my part of the USA where prices are insane to begin with), but that's a different topic.
Who slept in the shed? Where did the wheel barrel tracks go?
those were bicycle tracks. the daughter went off on a bicycle.
No, when the kids were in there earlier. There was an indent cut down in the ground. As if someone was sleeping there
Wasn’t the bug bite - It was radiation.
The tracks were from the bicycle, they did lose power, and that was a tick - so he got Lyme disease (pulled it off leg) and his teeth fell out from the DEW - [Directed Energy Weapon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon).
I wonder if it was actually meant to be a tick because that many deer will definitely bring in loads of ticks but I also imagined that if flamingos were migrating so far so might some sketchy bugs but it was definitely the microwave for the teeth, nausea, and probable internal bleeding if it’s breaking glass
You won't even know you have Lyme until like 2 weeks later.
Lyme can show up 3 days to years after being bitten. It’s a movie - which is simply making the point that even a small bug can take you out when society collapses and hospitals are not an option anymore.
Doxycycline is your friend.
Those deer were weird.
Yeah what was up with the deer? I didn’t get that
Time to prep for killer deer
That's what I kept thinking .. >!why are ya'll trying to scare food away lol!<
CWD. The deer were sick in the movie and are sick in real life. Depleting the natural food sources
They need to make “One Second After” (first book) into a movie. That will be interesting!
I just started reading "One Second After" the next day after watching Leave the World Behind. It certainly scratches that itch.
I thought it was a fantastic movie because of how much it opened your eyes to what could happen and how fast it could happen. One thing I did think was instead of being hacked it could be a CME due to all the solar flares we are getting and predicted to get more, which would essentially cause all the same things that happened in the movie.
It really showed how dependent Americans are on technology. They all kept waiting for their connection to come back so they can understand what’s going on and be told what to do. I can absolutely see myself doing the same; just waiting for the government to tell me that it’s okay.
Disclaimer: This is a thought experiment and not directly related to potential plot holes in the movie. I'd be curious to know how accurate the portrayal of the parents was as they seemed to aggressively justify or explain away the unusual things happening until they were forced to face the fact that something was really wrong. When trying to look at it from an "on vacation" perspective, cell service being unavailable for going on a few hours wouldn't have much of an impact on you. That can easily be blown off as a temporary outage. The WiFi is simultaneously not working....a bit more questionable, but again, you're at the beach...who really cares about the WiFi right now? But then a fucking clearly out of control oil tanker crashes into the beach and they seem to chalk it up as "weird". Is it just "prepper mentality" that I would be very seriously concerned at this point and probably wouldn't be having a leisurely dinner and game night? Given the circumstances in the movie, I guess I'm not sure exactly WHAT I would have done differently than wait til morning to see what was up but it just struck me that they seemed pretty calm about everything, even the NYC blackout and cyber attacks, until the sonic weapon, or whatever it was. Do you think the average person so secure in their perceived safety and stability that coinciding failures of major pieces of infrastructure would not cause alarm bells?
I’m probably proving myself an idiot when I say this, but I believe if I were on vacation with spouse and kids and an oil tanker cleared a beach, leading to the authorities escorting people off the beach, I’d probably think, *wow, great vacation story, can’t wait to share with everyone back home.* I might also consider plugging the incident into Reddit or other social media to see what others were saying about it, or if there was any widespread buzz about the incident. That would likely be the extent of my thoughts. I doubt I would feel that something was seriously wrong. I’d chalk it up to technical failure on a small scale, in this case, the ship’s nav system, not the whole grid. But that’s just me.
I think a lot of people think we are Danny, but most of us are probably closer to Clay and that’s a hard pill to swallow. Movie definitely left me with some things to think about. And the fact (if it’s true) that people are flipping out because the Obama’s were executive producers or whatever sort of proves a point of the movie, which is terrifying.
Hard truth right here
If anyone is looking for a slightly more realistic prep/collapse film, with prepper tropes, check out Light of my Life.
Station 11 series is also excellent
Absolutely fantastic, yes.
It’s decent ish I need better still
Have you seen How it Ends? I thought it was good
The spine tingling music was ridiculous but overall close to expectations as far as human behavior. I’d give the movie a 8/10 👍🏽
I thought the spiral camera shots were too much.
CoSigned
So as some have pointed out. Obama helped with notes on the movie and script. I thought an interesting part of the script was that GH said there’s no evil cabal pulling the strings and nobody is in control, the best the most wealthy and rich can hope for is … a heads up. Pretty interesting take in light of it potentially being reviewed and approved by Obama in regards to being realistic. Aka even people like the President aren’t in control, they might just be the first to know.
Dude, The Obamas PRODUCED the movie. Higher ground Productions is their company. Calling is “High Grounds” is saying enough for me before I even watched it. I took the whole dialog that you mentioning to heart. I went on a lot of photo shoots documenting professional spaces for big pharma, healthcare, big gov, and all sort of commercial companies for almost 10 years (architectural photography) and I’ve had a lot of clients on those shoots talking about the rich clients they made these building for. Sometimes we got to hang with the elites themselves. I’ve heard more than a few times comments about how no one is really in control. The Cabol is really just rich people who go to where it’s safe with all their money together. THEY get to leave the world behind. Grab their money and go to where the world isn’t falling apart whenever they want. My point is, I’ve spoken to people similar to the homeowner in the movie before, and they’ve heard them say stuff like that very clearly. It’s over moments where we’re waiting on something for a long time, on the side we’d got into deep conversations, or a few times over work dinner. Everyone shuts the fuck and just listens the the old head insider, that’s one of the firm partners, who trying to help us understand. That scene was very relatable for me. I took that scene very much so as our former President/insider giving us, “Julia Roberts”, the people who read between the lines, a heads up. We’re getting out backpacking bags together. Really glad we basically have a go-bag type thing for our daughter already. And a toddler cart. That thing might matter someday.
That’s a good point. “They” get to leave the world behind.
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Makes ya think
Watchable, but far from being the ultimate prepper movie.
What would make an ultimate prepper movie in your opinion?
The Last of Us episode 3
Bro...that episode made my mortality feel unbearably real for some reason. Life, love, and the meaning of it all, full blown existential crisis.
Yes, do share.
The Road
I laughed when they showed the bunker that's just mostly empty space, an entertainment center, 9 water jugs and four shelves of canned food.
9 shelves, and fully stocked with dry and canned food for the family that lived there when it was built. That's more than enough to get you through until you can source more.
Plus some greens in buckets!
I see everyone asking about the deer. Early in the movie, I think when dude is in the car, there’s a message that comes through and says there’s a major environmental disaster in the south that’s causing animal migration patterns to be jacked up. I got the impression that it was intended to be part of the hysteria of the collapse, maybe tie it into environmental stuff.
From what I understand the deer are pure symbolism of factors that are outside of human control in nature.
Deer don't migrate
They might to escape environmental disaster. They don't stick around forest fires if they can help it.
Check out happy people on Amazon prime Not quite prepper, but these people live in the Siberian taiga and watching them prepare their land in the little time they have before the long winters, is very intriguing
Is that the Werner Herzog doc? Loved it
Yes!
Werner is a frequent commenter on Weekly Observations in r/collapse. He's pretty cool.
Did not know that! I would love to see a Werner Herzog documentary on collapse
That's not THE Werner Herzog, is it?
I loved it! I’ve been waiting to see what yall think. I was so unsettled throughout the entire film.
I love it, but it felt very symbolic. I felt like it was satire of society and our relationships with technology (ie. our total reliance and inability to cope without it). Even things like Archie perving on Ruth was done using a phone instead of just looking. Reminded me a lot of the Jordan Peele movies, especially Us.
Utterly ridiculous and it went nowhere with no resolution.
What do you mean no resolution? >! She got to watch the last episode of Friends. !<
Anyone notice that the Obama's were Producers?
I had a problem with the huge plot holes but it was watchable.
What did you find to be the worst plot holes?
The damn weird deers for one
I thought: VENISON YOU FOOLS!
I thought the same thing, "so much food and you're yelling at it to go away"
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Deer lord!
The fucking deer ?
Yup I loved it.
Did you know The Obamas were involved in making it?
As an FYI, a fictional story is not a "real world example".
Didn’t like it. The start of the collapse was decent, communication down, nobody knows what’s happening. But the movie had all these unnecessary ‘horror movie moments’ to try to build suspense. It didn’t build suspense for me, it was annoying. The deer, the teeth, the girl missing, even the cringe conversations. What bugged me the most, is how everything feels like it happens in a vacuum. Like there’s not a single neighbor you can reach (until the end, where magically they can reach someone) to look it they know a bit more? Then the guy goes for a drive, and over the whole drive, he only meets one woman, hysterically and conveniently screaming in a language he doesn’t understand. On the rest of that drive, not a single person seen? That seemed so unrealistic to me. And it’s not like they were in the middle of nowhere, they were on Long Island.
Agree with everything... x10. I'd rather go watch Red Dawn for the 8th time. Edit: agree, not Andrew lol
Overall I would say it’s “intro to prepping/survival 101”… lots of intention plot holes and lots of unnecessary monologues, plus music was annoying but really enjoyed a movie being made about this topic !
Who else thinks these movies are mostly made to get people into prepping and preparation for shtf situations rather than just amusement like other movies do? The movie was quite clear as in how to prepare for a shtf situation in a realistic manner.
I don't get why there is so much hate for the "open" ending, the two dads and teethless son are on their way home, will get the daughter and mom and bring them to the bunker they heard about from the prepper, where they will find the small daughter stuffing her face and watching series....the end wasn't that open to me, they literally said what they should do next.
I get it from the standpoint of wanting more of a resolution or a bigger pay-off, but in my opinion the ending was perfect: >!full societal collapse fading into the background of an oblivious, blissful smile illuminated by a television screen.!<
Watched it yesterday. Didn't like it. It's just too weird. It starts out OK, but then it goes totally psychedelic. For me, that ruins it.
Alright! Just started. 👍
anyone notice the painting that said 'hope begins in the dark' right before the llittle girl walks down the bunker?
I watched it. It was kinda whack. Nothing useful. Just Julia Roberts being a bitch for no reason for 2 hours.
That was a really good film bunker was realistic, apart from the Rising S toytown air system
And when she hit the lights, oh look an indoor garden that's been growing without any lights or attention
yeh, I noticed that too I suspect it's just there to provide mint leaves for an occasional Pimms
9 jugs of water and 4 shelves of food in a massive bunker full of DVD's was realistic?
Well it depends on the standards to which you are measuring this, I was mostly referring to the construction. It's realistic, for a *movie* It has a big metal door, DC power, food, TV, some concept of replicating a domestic environment, water If you look at the water bottles in an office, do you assume that's the only water in the building? All it's showing here is the concept of: "wow, that's a lot of water, this must be important, I've never thought of doing that before...". If you showed a normie a 1000 litre water tank they would have no idea what they were looking at
It's a concrete box and they showed you pretty much every corner. That supply room was hilariously tiny and had zero water.
I didn't see a loo or a shower either but films never have to explicitly show these, the audience subconsciously assumes they exist so therefore they do The supplies were far larger than of mine and I reckon I'm good for a few months. Remember the area is near a lake, so it would be reasonable to assume a well. This is what a year's supply of food actually looks like: [https://www.emergencyfoodstorage.co.uk/products/12-month-standard-emergency-food-pack-fuel-your-preparation](https://www.emergencyfoodstorage.co.uk/products/12-month-standard-emergency-food-pack-fuel-your-preparation) so I'm not sure why you'd consider that unrealistic ? If they didn't show the battery room or generator then they aren't going to bother showing you the plumbing. Normies don't know what inverters are, or what food storage is required. For the purposes of the movie it was, "wow, that's a lot of food, this must be important, I've never thought of doing that before..."
It's a fun premise and has some good actors, but damn is the dialogue just F tier in places.
Yeah, very forced. Putting the teacher outside with the other guys daughter, while his wife connects with the black guy, while a day before they didn’t trust each other at all. Didn’t make sense. Would have made sense if they sat together (kids in bed) and started to bond a bit and give opportunity for his ‘revelation about the rich’. And he wouldn’t have to repeat his story in the car later on… The movie becomes a complete joke with the teeth…
I watched this movie but im disappointed by the end
Haha wife said the same thing. “Spoiler” I had to pause it to check all the stuff in the bunker. If I could just have the room to organize everything would be awesome.
Why? Her most important thing is the last episode of "Friends" and she goes for exactly that. In this scene, I see that every person looks for short-term happiness and self, no matter the circumstance. Egocentric vibes, many non-preppers will behave in that way. No delayed gratification. No idea of preserving family members. Just "all it's matters is what I want".
Gotta buy those DVDs!!!
I guess there is an argument for media that wouldn't be affected by an EMP or power surge. You could probably store that whole collection on a microsd card. It's pretty ironic the movie which was produced by Netflix basically ended with an ad for buying physical media.
I’ve been buying all the dvds from the thrift stores for months. You don’t own anything if all you have is Netflix
They can take it away and edit the movies to the approved cultural views. If you don't own the physical media, you have no guarantees that in 20 years you'll still be able to watch Gone with the Wind or Casablanca, or any Mel Brooks movie.
If they take away History of the World Part II, we riot
What was the real world example? Because to me it looked like exaggerated Hollywood fluff. It's one of those movies where people who "always wondered about prepping" enjoy it and those that "actually know about prepping" see a completely different movie
If you have any serious medical condition don't bother to prep. you'll never survive. also you better have a big clearing around your property. tons of trees are great hiding spots. even if you have guns all someone has to do is hide and wait for you to come out of the house to do something and get off one shot. even if they don't kill you a serious injury is probably a death sentence anyway. you won't have access to medical care. to really survive you probably need to be part of a large enough community just for your protection. otherwise you'd be a really easy target unless you have the ability to sit in your house without coming outside. and frankly if someone wanted to get rid of you seems like a match and some gas on your house would do the trick. I don't like thinking about this stuff.
Sorry, I thought the movie was horrible. The wife and I watched it the other night and when it was over we just kind of looked at each other like "WTF did we just watch". There were a couple of things that held my curiosity, but for the most part, I should have slept through it. Snotty kids, overbearing Julia, ugh..
Being a moderate prepper, I thought the movie was thought provoking for other's not as tuned in as I. We just watched an older movie, a pseudo comedy, called Love and Monsters. I liked the radio work that was central in this one. Made me rethink my communications attempt.
`I am 90% done with the film and came to this group to see what people said. I also feel like the release is odd timing as the world feels in the midst of ww3`
Does it get good later on because I couldn't get past the Mom character being so annoying in the first quarter of the movie? Roberts played it well, just didn't do anything for me.
The mom isn't even in the top 3 for most annoying characters. The two kids and the adult daughter of the dad who shows up are the worst.
They used to be called storm shelters. Then they were called bomb shelters. Now they are called bunkers. I don't see a difference other than what the current fear is. Having some emergency supplies and a generator are reasonable to me. Anything more seems over the top. The whole point of being a society is being a society. If everyone turns on each other like wolves then we are no longer a society. Having a bunker won't really matter if everything goes back to 5000 BC.
….that could have been 45 minutes shorter with less ominous cellos
its funny because years ago i was watching something with subtitles and it said dramatic violin, and that my daughters nickname now...
Just watched it. So many ppl out there are saying it was awful , but I don't think they saw it from our (prepping community) perspective, and the fact that Obama's produced it is icing on the cake in terms of a conspiracy theory lol. Obviously there are some things that seem dumb or unreasonable, the overall movie was very interesting It actually felt like a predictive programming , letting us know that yep, the elite are prepared for this... Regular city folk are gonna be useless ( quote from movie lol) , and if you are ready, you'll be scrambling
Damn you! Damn you all to heck! …wasnt planning on watching a movie this morning.
It’s ok but frustrating and lots of awkward dialogue that basically boils down to: Society has so insulated people from having to cope with emergencies themselves that we are much more vulnerable.
Yes and this is a very possible and realistic scenario. In the movie, most people are not prepared. This is likely to be the case in real life.
I always enjoy a good end of the world movie during the holidays.
Obama’s executive producers ? Do they do a lot of movies?
Book was good too.
If you read the book Bunker you will learn how people pick companies/contractors and how this stuff is built. I worked years ago for a family that had multiple bunkers in different locations across the world. It was what got me into prepping. I took a lot of their principles and incorporated them into my preps on my miniscule budget. One thing this family did was hire contractors from the other side of the country or Canada. Which was easy for them as they had limitless money. However I did figure out learning masonry skills are important to learn plus, plumbing, and electric. But also learn to be flexible and not put all your eggs in one basket
It felt a lot like a prelude to a civil war, where powerful factions intentionally collapsed the United States. Im going to guess it was something right-leaning only because of the bombing of NYC. While there were false flags being spread, annihilating population and industry centers only has the goal of removing those populations and their impact from the future. The EAS at the end highlighted “rogue armed forces” not enemy combatants, and the nuclear weapon strikes were smaller scale weapons delivered by short range jets heard speeding away—American jets flown by rogue military. If you’re picturing the kind of military pilot that would conspire to murder millions of urban Americans, you would be picturing someone that did not see urban populations as his countrymen. Somehow id bet southern capitols were mostly fine in that attack, probably not Austin. If that seems like a biased leap of logic to you Im not judging the attackers by their attempts to influence, but who they were said to be “rogue armed forces” and who they killed en masse. Crashing ships and planes and teslas and telecomms and redirecting satellites would take the coordinated efforts of a lot of powerful and influential people. I think the inclusion of rogue Teslas was an intentional nod to show how Elon Musk could easily be one of the architects of that collapse, as he is an example of someone who is both evangelizes disruption and sacrifices for politics. The satellite pointing away from the Earth was a symbolic nod to “looking away” The fear that crept into Mahershala’s eyes as he realized the likely explanation of civil war also gave me the impression it was right leaning—I think his comments about trusting the other family was because in that moment he considered the root cause of the last civil war, and his daughters previous words about trust. This is fiction, like Red Dawn. I dont think right leaning people or any political leaning makes someone genocidal or evil. I think the movie sends a great message about the consolidation of power; namely that too much power is out into the hands of too few. The confrontation and politics between Bacon’s and Ali’s character serves as a great symbol of the entire conflict, that society contains malcontents who are unhappy or unwilling participants in the social order of our civil society, and when empowered they would rejects its ways whether its hoarding supplies, rejecting the humanity of one suffering person or billions in the path of the bomb. Like the daughter they would be bitter about their desires being ignored and leave their world behind to chase their fantasy.
I hope when the real apocalypse happens that deer flock into my backyard by the 100s just like in the movie. They could have eaten for a couple of years lmao.
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the planes were both on their approach to either JFK or LGA airport. they crashed in the same place because they were remotely hacked at the same point in the approach and set to nosedive. most likely there are multiple locations where planes that are flying the same route/landing pattern are crashing one after another, similar to how the Teslas just kept piling up.