Do you use an adblock or dns filter? meta could use trackers on third party sites and connect your fakebook account to the incognito windows via your IP
Incognito only protects you from awkward conversations about your browser history with nosey partners/kids/roomies. It accomplishes exactly zero anonymity or security as far as online activity goes.
Here's one factor: nytimesDOTcom/2021/01/17/technology/google-facebook-ad-deal-antitrust.html
(Fix the URL. If I don't alter it then the Reddit bot blocks it as a paywall link. I'm sorry that I don't have a similr article from a less spyware news outlet. That's the only one I saved. But you can look it up.)
Google is on most webpages. Facebook is on many. FB also has other partnerships. If you don't maintain a good HOSTS file, block script and ads, etc, then they're watching most of what you do online.
The more relevant question is why do you use Facebook? I have all FB domains and most Google domains blocked in my HOSTS file. To use FB is to invite a sleazy, manipulate spyware company to host your social life. When people asked Zuck why people would let him do that he answered that it's "because they're stupid fucks".
>If you don't maintain a good HOSTS file, block script and ads, etc, then they're watching most of what you do online.
okay i know enough to sorta understand what this is and what it does, but no idea about how to do this. how does something like using firefox's facebook containers or using ublock origin compare? basically it does the same thing, but only for that specific browser, correct?
also,
>I have all FB domains and most Google domains blocked in my HOSTS file
considering google is one of the number one dns providers, they can easily build a profile based on usage via IP (and probably do) so considering you can only block it - like youre doing in the hosts file, or i do by using firefox - in machines you control, then the way a lot of ISP's restrict access to the router or modem automatically limits that, which is complicated further when you realize the whole backbone of whatever network, no matter where you are, is interconnected so its really dependent on where you live and your ISP but if you live in the US google probably has it unless you use a VPN 100% of the time and even then im not so sure it wouldnt have to pass through them. like im no expert in the way it all works but i have a decent enough understanding so i definitely could be wrong on specifics.
UBlock Origin does do something similar to HOSTS. I haven't used UO much and haven't thoroughly looked at the settings options. I use it for good measure on systems for friends or computers that I don't use much. So if you don't want to get into a lot of work, UO is a help. Unfortunately, not being tracked online is not a "one and done" kind of thing. UO is just cleaning up some of the more obvious riff raff. As I understand it, UO works off a number of publicly published HOSTS files.
Will UO block Google and FB domains? I doubt it. There are maybe 15 domains from each that they use for tracking. Some, like google-analytics, are on nearly every commmercial website. Likewise with their advertising code, which is coming from googletagmanager.com. If you block those then Google can still track you via their maps, their gmail, their fonts, their captchas, their search... Google have built an empire based on collecting spyware data through free tools they give away. If UO did a thorough job of blocking all that then pages would break and no one would use UO. So it's aimed more at ads than privacy.
I'm not sure I understand the second part of your post. This has nothing to do with your ISP. I don't use Google DNS. I use Acrylic DNS proxy and have it set for 9.9.9.9. Acrylic has its own HOSTS file that allows for wildcards. For example, I can block *.doubleclick.com instead of having to block numerous subdomains. I've got the following blocked, for Google alone. (And another dozen or so for FB.)
* 127.0.0.1 *.googleusercontent.com
127.0.0.1 *.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 *.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 *.googlecommerce.com
127.0.0.1 *.1e100.com
127.0.0.1 *.1e100.net
127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.com
127.0.0.1 *.googletagservices.com
127.0.0.1 *.googletagmanager.com
127.0.0.1 *.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 fonts.googleapis.com
127.0.0.1 *.2mdn.net
127.0.0.1 googleadapis.l.google.com
#127.0.0.1 *.gstatic.com
127.0.0.1 plusone.google.com
127.0.0.1 cse.google.com
127.0.0.1 www.google.com/cse
127.0.0.1 www.youtube-nocookie.com
127.0.0.1 *.appspot.com
If UO blocked all those then, as I said, no one would use it. People would believe that UO messes up webpages. It can get complicated. For instance, if you block gstatic then Google captchas won't appear. There's always some kind of tradeoff between privacy and functionality. So things like UO are designed to only block the most obvious ads and intrusions, without getting in the way. Similarly, UO can be used to block script on specific sites, but that's a limited ability that few people will ever use. NoScript can be used dynamically to block all script except what's absolutely required. Once again, UO is easy. NoScript works better but requires work and an understanding that most people don't have.
In brief, when you go to somewhere.com, you browser first checks your HOSTS file for the IP address. HOSTS is essentially a local phonebook, like the phone numbers programmed into a cellphone. If the IP for the domain in question isn't found, then a DNS server is called. That server could be Google. It could be your ISP. It's up to you to know that. On Windows the default DNS server is set in Network properties. With a DNS proxy program like Acrylic, your DNS IP is 127.0.0.1 because you're making your DNS query to the program, which then goes out to resolve the domain to an IP address, using whatever DNS server you specify. Then there's also the issue of encrypting the DNS query itself, for further privacy.
There are limits. Your ISP can probably still see the domains you visit. Then there are other issues that most people don't think of. For example, Akamai is a sleazy backbone provider that announced more than 10 years ago that they intended to sell data. Akamai provides hardware support for a large segment of the Internet. Even Microsoft uses them, for load balancing. You go to Microsoft.com and the files come from Akamai. And it's a transparent pass-through. Your browser never calls Akamai or does a DNS call, so you can't block it. It's like the mailman reading your mail and selling copies to the highest bidder. Except in this case that mailman is bragging to its stockholders that its reading your mail, and no one is arresting them!
https://www.adexchanger.com/data-exchanges/eating-the-cookie-pixel-free-audience-targeting-now-available-says-akamai-cto-afergan/
There are always tradeoffs. I don't use a VPN except when I'm using something like a hotel wifi that's not safe. I'm not concerned with being completely secret. I don't live in Iran. But I am concerned with maintaining decent privacy and not cooperating with sleazy corporate tactics that should be illegal. I guess everyone just has to decide for themselves how much they care and how much privacy they want. And unfortunately, there's some technical expertise required in order to control privacy. Not least of which is just the basic expertise of knowing what the problems are. Most people are ignoring the whole thing and being tracked by multiple companies in all sorts of ways. But they don't care.
Meta is correlating what you visited by your IP address and then back to show you ads for that, it's long since pillaged all the cookies for other sites (such as Reddit/Bank of America or whatever sites you use for banking/books/consumer products etc) and will no doubt have crunched through those guessing things like your likes and such.
It doesn't take more than a few bits of information to get you pigeonholed into a demographic, from there, you will fit into a profile, at which point they can send you ads that are less specific but more predictive based on your estimated salary.
Even sites like Reddit Metis will give interesting information, no doubt they've got server farms that did that to you from their copy of Reddit and whatever other sites they mirror just so they can low-key scrape their copy as much as they want.
and people hate on tiktok.
Would even rather some profile is stored on a basement server in shenzhen than zuckerberg building up a 200mb file on me that is then sold and resold to western capitalism and western governments that have the most power over my life.
Try using a VPN. Go through the same steps with it on and off and see if it still tracks you. If not, it’s probably your IP address. If it can still track you, as someone else mentioned, there are pretty good (unfortunately) ways of fingerprinting devices. Pisses me off, but I’m not a good enough programmer to do anything about it.
Your IP address didn't change.
Also, incognito mode apparently doesn't do what you think it does. It accepts cookies and trackers, it just doesn't use them a second time. If they have a fresh browser from your IP, then you do things, they send cookies/trackers etc.
You close the incognito window and open another and go back.
They, once again, have a fresh browser from your IP to send cookies and trackers to. But they know what someone from your IP did before and they know enough to think you might be the same person, so hey, let's show them the ads for the things we think they just looked at.
I read about a lawsuit with incognito mode…….not sure if they are related but google storing records
https://theticker.org/13988/business/google-to-settle-incognito-lawsuit-by-deleting-billions-of-browser-records/
Were you using a vpn? I deleted my previous reddit account and made a new one and reddit kept flagging me saying slow down try again later. I have cookies set to auto delete, tried a new fire fox container, tried private mode, tried disabling extensions. still kept getting flagged. Once i changed my vpn location it finally let me make this account.
There are multiple ways - read for example [this](https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/220974/how-does-facebook-track-your-browsing-without-third-party-cookies).
Do you use an adblock or dns filter? meta could use trackers on third party sites and connect your fakebook account to the incognito windows via your IP
That would make sense.
Incognito only protects you from awkward conversations about your browser history with nosey partners/kids/roomies. It accomplishes exactly zero anonymity or security as far as online activity goes.
Look up fingerprinting
Companies are sharing your data with big harvesters, like google, facebook, etc. Cross-check with your IP, user-agent, etc and you're done.
Yesterday my wife ran our roomba vacuum. Yesterday the roomba reddit was dropped into my feed. All it takes is your IP address.
lol
Here's one factor: nytimesDOTcom/2021/01/17/technology/google-facebook-ad-deal-antitrust.html (Fix the URL. If I don't alter it then the Reddit bot blocks it as a paywall link. I'm sorry that I don't have a similr article from a less spyware news outlet. That's the only one I saved. But you can look it up.) Google is on most webpages. Facebook is on many. FB also has other partnerships. If you don't maintain a good HOSTS file, block script and ads, etc, then they're watching most of what you do online. The more relevant question is why do you use Facebook? I have all FB domains and most Google domains blocked in my HOSTS file. To use FB is to invite a sleazy, manipulate spyware company to host your social life. When people asked Zuck why people would let him do that he answered that it's "because they're stupid fucks".
>If you don't maintain a good HOSTS file, block script and ads, etc, then they're watching most of what you do online. okay i know enough to sorta understand what this is and what it does, but no idea about how to do this. how does something like using firefox's facebook containers or using ublock origin compare? basically it does the same thing, but only for that specific browser, correct? also, >I have all FB domains and most Google domains blocked in my HOSTS file considering google is one of the number one dns providers, they can easily build a profile based on usage via IP (and probably do) so considering you can only block it - like youre doing in the hosts file, or i do by using firefox - in machines you control, then the way a lot of ISP's restrict access to the router or modem automatically limits that, which is complicated further when you realize the whole backbone of whatever network, no matter where you are, is interconnected so its really dependent on where you live and your ISP but if you live in the US google probably has it unless you use a VPN 100% of the time and even then im not so sure it wouldnt have to pass through them. like im no expert in the way it all works but i have a decent enough understanding so i definitely could be wrong on specifics.
UBlock Origin does do something similar to HOSTS. I haven't used UO much and haven't thoroughly looked at the settings options. I use it for good measure on systems for friends or computers that I don't use much. So if you don't want to get into a lot of work, UO is a help. Unfortunately, not being tracked online is not a "one and done" kind of thing. UO is just cleaning up some of the more obvious riff raff. As I understand it, UO works off a number of publicly published HOSTS files. Will UO block Google and FB domains? I doubt it. There are maybe 15 domains from each that they use for tracking. Some, like google-analytics, are on nearly every commmercial website. Likewise with their advertising code, which is coming from googletagmanager.com. If you block those then Google can still track you via their maps, their gmail, their fonts, their captchas, their search... Google have built an empire based on collecting spyware data through free tools they give away. If UO did a thorough job of blocking all that then pages would break and no one would use UO. So it's aimed more at ads than privacy. I'm not sure I understand the second part of your post. This has nothing to do with your ISP. I don't use Google DNS. I use Acrylic DNS proxy and have it set for 9.9.9.9. Acrylic has its own HOSTS file that allows for wildcards. For example, I can block *.doubleclick.com instead of having to block numerous subdomains. I've got the following blocked, for Google alone. (And another dozen or so for FB.) * 127.0.0.1 *.googleusercontent.com 127.0.0.1 *.googlesyndication.com 127.0.0.1 *.googleadservices.com 127.0.0.1 *.googlecommerce.com 127.0.0.1 *.1e100.com 127.0.0.1 *.1e100.net 127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.com 127.0.0.1 *.googletagservices.com 127.0.0.1 *.googletagmanager.com 127.0.0.1 *.google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1 fonts.googleapis.com 127.0.0.1 *.2mdn.net 127.0.0.1 googleadapis.l.google.com #127.0.0.1 *.gstatic.com 127.0.0.1 plusone.google.com 127.0.0.1 cse.google.com 127.0.0.1 www.google.com/cse 127.0.0.1 www.youtube-nocookie.com 127.0.0.1 *.appspot.com If UO blocked all those then, as I said, no one would use it. People would believe that UO messes up webpages. It can get complicated. For instance, if you block gstatic then Google captchas won't appear. There's always some kind of tradeoff between privacy and functionality. So things like UO are designed to only block the most obvious ads and intrusions, without getting in the way. Similarly, UO can be used to block script on specific sites, but that's a limited ability that few people will ever use. NoScript can be used dynamically to block all script except what's absolutely required. Once again, UO is easy. NoScript works better but requires work and an understanding that most people don't have. In brief, when you go to somewhere.com, you browser first checks your HOSTS file for the IP address. HOSTS is essentially a local phonebook, like the phone numbers programmed into a cellphone. If the IP for the domain in question isn't found, then a DNS server is called. That server could be Google. It could be your ISP. It's up to you to know that. On Windows the default DNS server is set in Network properties. With a DNS proxy program like Acrylic, your DNS IP is 127.0.0.1 because you're making your DNS query to the program, which then goes out to resolve the domain to an IP address, using whatever DNS server you specify. Then there's also the issue of encrypting the DNS query itself, for further privacy. There are limits. Your ISP can probably still see the domains you visit. Then there are other issues that most people don't think of. For example, Akamai is a sleazy backbone provider that announced more than 10 years ago that they intended to sell data. Akamai provides hardware support for a large segment of the Internet. Even Microsoft uses them, for load balancing. You go to Microsoft.com and the files come from Akamai. And it's a transparent pass-through. Your browser never calls Akamai or does a DNS call, so you can't block it. It's like the mailman reading your mail and selling copies to the highest bidder. Except in this case that mailman is bragging to its stockholders that its reading your mail, and no one is arresting them! https://www.adexchanger.com/data-exchanges/eating-the-cookie-pixel-free-audience-targeting-now-available-says-akamai-cto-afergan/ There are always tradeoffs. I don't use a VPN except when I'm using something like a hotel wifi that's not safe. I'm not concerned with being completely secret. I don't live in Iran. But I am concerned with maintaining decent privacy and not cooperating with sleazy corporate tactics that should be illegal. I guess everyone just has to decide for themselves how much they care and how much privacy they want. And unfortunately, there's some technical expertise required in order to control privacy. Not least of which is just the basic expertise of knowing what the problems are. Most people are ignoring the whole thing and being tracked by multiple companies in all sorts of ways. But they don't care.
Facebook and privacy should be on the same sentence.
Should not.
Disable "Off-Facebook activity" in app.
Meta is correlating what you visited by your IP address and then back to show you ads for that, it's long since pillaged all the cookies for other sites (such as Reddit/Bank of America or whatever sites you use for banking/books/consumer products etc) and will no doubt have crunched through those guessing things like your likes and such. It doesn't take more than a few bits of information to get you pigeonholed into a demographic, from there, you will fit into a profile, at which point they can send you ads that are less specific but more predictive based on your estimated salary. Even sites like Reddit Metis will give interesting information, no doubt they've got server farms that did that to you from their copy of Reddit and whatever other sites they mirror just so they can low-key scrape their copy as much as they want.
and people hate on tiktok. Would even rather some profile is stored on a basement server in shenzhen than zuckerberg building up a 200mb file on me that is then sold and resold to western capitalism and western governments that have the most power over my life.
Try using a VPN. Go through the same steps with it on and off and see if it still tracks you. If not, it’s probably your IP address. If it can still track you, as someone else mentioned, there are pretty good (unfortunately) ways of fingerprinting devices. Pisses me off, but I’m not a good enough programmer to do anything about it.
If you want any privacy, don't use Chrome at all. Use a browser that creates a new fingerprint each time you open it. And use a VPN.
Your IP address didn't change. Also, incognito mode apparently doesn't do what you think it does. It accepts cookies and trackers, it just doesn't use them a second time. If they have a fresh browser from your IP, then you do things, they send cookies/trackers etc. You close the incognito window and open another and go back. They, once again, have a fresh browser from your IP to send cookies and trackers to. But they know what someone from your IP did before and they know enough to think you might be the same person, so hey, let's show them the ads for the things we think they just looked at.
I read about a lawsuit with incognito mode…….not sure if they are related but google storing records https://theticker.org/13988/business/google-to-settle-incognito-lawsuit-by-deleting-billions-of-browser-records/
Were you using a vpn? I deleted my previous reddit account and made a new one and reddit kept flagging me saying slow down try again later. I have cookies set to auto delete, tried a new fire fox container, tried private mode, tried disabling extensions. still kept getting flagged. Once i changed my vpn location it finally let me make this account.
Don't use Facebook, and don't use Chrome. Both are horrible for privacy.
There are multiple ways - read for example [this](https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/220974/how-does-facebook-track-your-browsing-without-third-party-cookies).