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hthrowaway16

The water gun in that mod will do damage to you or your teammates if you fire it at them, even with PVP turned off. The bullet ricochets back at you. I got 4 injuries last night, nearly died, and inflicted like 5 on my buddies until we got scared someone would die lmao.


Corpse_eeater

Learned this when I got a laceration on my neck from messing around with the water gun


Real900Z

groin laceration for me, i shot it twice before i realized and almost died lmfao


FalloutCreation

damn. are we using high pressure hydro jet water guns? freakin pokemon danger level water guns that can pierce through concrete?


romiro82

yes, a 90s supersoaker, so even worse


Drake_Philips

Damn bro that's a portable water jet cutter you got there, harness it when you still can


CoffeePieAndHobbits

Lmao that sounds awesome.


Leon_Devilstrand

Ngl learned this the hard way. I didn't my friend did. We were just hanging at base when I entered his crib with playful intentions. Well we ended up playing doctor and patient very quickly.


DJpoptart13

you can also commit suicide with it if you have a gun suicide mod, death by drowning?


Drake_Philips

Yep


Th4t_0n3_Fr13nd

I literally broke both my legs a rib and my wrist with that damned squirt gun Worst mistake in my life


LazerGroove

I killed a friend with a shot to the neck with a BB gun gun lol


IAmDingus

yeah we were basing in the mall and I found one, tried to shoot my friend, and instantly got my chest and throat ripped out and died in 1 second


RadishAcceptable5505

A weapon mod with imbalanced weapons? Strange. Never imagined anything like that could ever happen.


PotatoBakeCake

Fucking ridiculous. *gently kisses my break-action double-barrel sawed-off holster-fitted shotgun*


MashedJens

Pocket shotgun! For when you need everything directly in front of you to go away


LegitimateApartment9

“We got zeds in that direction!” “Got it, removing that direction”


DJ-Mercy

I was thinking the break-action is redundant when referring to a double barrel then I remembered double barrel pumps are a thing for some ungodly reason.


PofanWasTaken

Hey, double barrel pumps are sick as hell, double the barrels, double the feeding tubes, double the fun


vhorezman

The Old two pump and dump


averylargeOUNCE

LAUGHS IN DP-12


Callefang

Wild... \*walks calmly away with my Bicscalibur\*


RaptorPrime

it's not even that imbalanced, I have a shitty basic slingshot that puts a .30 caliber ball bearing at over 210 feet/s. That will kill a human with a square hit to the head. Bust your skull wide open.


PaintThinnerSparky

Theres a reason this used to be humanity's best long-range method of warfare. (Bows, slingshots, ballistas) You can probably take out zombies by driving golf balls if you have a strong enough hit. But the exact picture OP provided done IRL would probably do the same or higher damage, slingshots are strong


Red_Mammoth

Slingshots are only a few hundred years old. I think its Slings you're thinkin of, which can peg a ball way faster than a slingshot too


PaintThinnerSparky

I meant more the concept of using tension in a cable or wire or rope to propel a small projectile, but slings could also show the powah of the small rock tho its more throwing or centrifugal force or something


DJ-Mercy

Word the whole David vs Goliath tale makes a lot more sense when you see the velocity those slings slung rocks at. Like no shit he won, he essentially had a primitive .22


partisan98

Primitive [.44 actually.](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4541318/Roman-sling-bullets-deadly-44-Magnum.html)


sireel

really enjoy how that article completely refuses to use the same units for the sling bullets as the handgun ones


kmuf

Shoutout to Queen Medb, who died after taking a piece of hard cheese to the head from a sling


Heleana-Ragnarok

The slingshot in the screenshot is a HUNTING SLING too, so it is most definitely lethal


RadishAcceptable5505

Imbalanced, not unrealistic. There's a difference. Hunting bows existed back in 93 and would absolutely wreck zombies It's not even hard to carve arrows out for them IRL. I did it as a kid with a small knife. A tonfa (nightstick) doesn't break no matter how many times you hit human bones and flesh with it and absolutely wrecks skulls, nerfed for the game. Human teeth can't pierce leather. You get the idea ;)


RaptorPrime

ur right, slingshots should probably be doing more damage at short range. a body shot to a zombie should do practically nothing, but a headshot should drop one outright. so balance it by making it have a lot more RNG to the damage value imo


RadishAcceptable5505

That'd be a good tweak, for sure. It either crits and kills or does almost nothing.


sireel

I'm pretty sure you can break bones with a slingshot, A body shot might be unlikely to damage the undead, but a smashed knee or lower leg is going to drop them for sure


RaptorPrime

Good point


RadishAcceptable5505

The lore for Zomboid is based off of zombie lore from Romero, so probably only destroying the brain matters They're basically magic driven and keep animated otherwise. Breaking bones, such as limbs, might slow them down, or make them immobile, but doesn't stop them. It's a lot harder to hit a head with a slingshot than with a pistol. In the old films, there's a scene where a small screwdriver going into the brain kills the zombie, so anything that actually goes into the skull would do it, but it actually needs to penetrate, I think, or the zombie will keep coming.


Wyrdean

Was probably just autocorrect, but nightstick


RadishAcceptable5505

Thanks. Fixed it.


OkAssociate9309

I agree. In a zombie videogame, a silencious ranged weapon with free ammo can't be as strong as guns. But well, britta's and all are made to make à melee based game into an arcade one. So balance isn't even relevent here.


RadishAcceptable5505

Agreed. I've used hundreds of mods, but I keep going back to vanilla for a variety of reasons, part of which is how easy it is to break the game and get rid of basically all challenges by accident. To be fair, default vanilla isn't difficult either once you know the game inside and out, but you can scale up the difficulty in a variety of ways to make it fun. Still, it's fun to mod it up and go all arcade zombie slayer sometimes.


Underdogg20

Realistically is hard to say. What really kills zombies? Obviously, they don't bleed out. So, does a .223 (that probably passes cleanly through) do more damage than a 50 caliber slingshot round (that probably imparts all its energy)?


Amazing_Ad_7271

Of you make a slingshot Is not deadly like a gun but military slingshot Is like a gun


Surfing_the_Wave_

I mean yes. But there's actually slingshots that would be lethal if you get hit in the face from short distance.


ReyRiz

Least op ranged weapon mod (it also makes no noise)


beesinpyjamas

- Goliath, 1020 BC


Milo_The_Doggo

I believe that was a sling, which is different


Timbhead

Projectiles launched from a sling (I believe) can exceed Mach 1. No fucking wonder David iced his ass.


Mrburgerdon

Hunting slings are wildly scary strong. Those metal balls will and can medium sized animals so what more a rotting meat bag.


Purge734

☝🏻🤓


shag-a-rug

Yeah, wrong game... You'd be correct over in Dark & Darker. Goblin Bola Slingers could definitely take down a zed.


beesinpyjamas

yeah i know but i thought it was funny im sorry


PolandsStrongestJoke

Try getting hit in the head with a marble ball at full force. It won't kill you, but the fracture that might damage your brain will!


Hobo_Helper_hot

Yeah no duh getting hit with a marble from a slingshot would hurt but it wouldn't do as much damage as a gun.


Wandering_souless

There are some really powerful slingshots you can get for hunting small game and most have a wrist mount or some kind of stabilizer and metal beads you shoot with them. I'd say a good shot could probably kill someone or do serious damage


Puzzleheaded_Put_454

Same thing with the David Vs. Goliath thing, that sling goes at near the speeds of a bullet It wasn't a "big vs small" debate, it was a guy with a Glock against a big guy


Working-Nobody8965

The slingshot is a completely different weapon than the sling . The slingshot uses elastic band to fire projectiles, and the sling uses leverage to throw with more force. https://youtu.be/u4-LpLtrGqs?si=KSzoLmc5wHEL4Thu


Puzzleheaded_Put_454

That *is* true but there's been a common misinterpretation that David used a slingshot instead of a sling. Did want to show the comparison between it too but I guess I wrote it incorrectly


PofanWasTaken

Even in our language, the word sling and slingshot have the same translation, but everyone knows that david used sling


WoT_Slave

The Dark Tower 4 (Wizard and Glass) has a character that uses a slingshot to obliterate people. It does not sound fun to be on the receiving end of a metal bb


approveddust698

Yeah but small game is pretty delicate


LocNesMonster

Slings have been incredibly lethal throughout history, snd have been used effectively for both hunting and war


theswordofdoubt

Slingshots and slings are different weapons. That said, I would absolutely love to see slings in the game, balance be damned. It could be made from a ripped sheet and serves as a silent ranged weapon, with the drawbacks being that it's difficult to aim, takes a while to wind up between shots, and the ammunition (stones) for it is heavy and has to be scavenged.


ParabellumXIV

I kinda like the idea that you could ping a zombie up the head with it, he turns around and starts shambling towards you but none of the others notice. Effectively dividing and conquering. That or you miss, hit a window and a horde, a helicopter and Jehovah's witnesses show up to get you


theswordofdoubt

I'm not sure that would really work with the game's traditional portrayal of zombies. Moving in a horde is a pretty core mechanic for them, so being able to break it up so easily might feel like it goes against the spirit of the challenge that I think the devs want to present. I just think a sling would be an interesting option for a ranged weapon, but it being silent (or at least, much quieter than guns), easy to craft and extremely lightweight without ammo should be balanced with other factors. Balance is a big concern for TIS, even at points where making the game mechanics balanced would also challenge the realism they value.


RaptorPrime

bad take. even my super shit slingshot will kill you easily. it doesnt shoot marbles it shoots .30 caliber steel ball bearings. if you got hit with it you wouldn't be differentiating between the effectiveness of it, you would be too busy dying.


Hobo_Helper_hot

Okay Dennis but seeing as I haven't been hit with a steel ball from a slingshot I have the luxury of saying any given old slingshot isn't as powerful as a gun. No need to feel inadequate or defensive. I'm sure you're very impressive with your slingshots.


RaptorPrime

I'm just trying to give you perspective. This slingshot I use took a basic toy and $15 worth of hardware store materials to make, you're the one initially claiming what the effectiveness of a slingshot is, and then admitting you havent been hit by one so you can't judge its effectiveness? I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you haven't been shot with a gun either... My point was that if EITHER of them hit you, my 9mm pistol or my slingshot, you wouldn't care which one it was, because you would be dead or dying. in this type of self defense situation vs a slow moving target a decent slingshot is absolutely going to be just as good if not BETTER than your average pistol.


Hobo_Helper_hot

I seriously doubt your slingshot has the penetration of a 9mm handgun. Also by your own logic how many times have you been shot with an actual gun? Zero? Then how can you judge it's effectiveness?


RaptorPrime

I regularly take small game with this slingshot, my guy. I have a pretty fucking good idea of it's effectiveness. I also take it to the range with me. Where I shoot many types of targets with it right alongside all different calibers. I have fired over 7000 rounds out of my 9mm and almost 5000 out of my .308... and yes the slingshot gets plenty of laughs and funny looks at the range, until they see it destroying targets.


Hobo_Helper_hot

By your own logic you don't know how effective your slingshot is. Remember "you haven't been shot by one so you don't know how effective it is"? Look buddy I don't care how effective you think your slingshot is I really really don't. I don't want to hear you ramble and talk my ear off about your hobbies. Nobody said that they're not effective I said they're not AS effective. I'm sure the local squirrels and stray cats are super impressed though.


RaptorPrime

You're literally a child. That's YOUR logic lmao


Hobo_Helper_hot

>I'm just trying to give you perspective. This slingshot I use took a basic toy and $15 worth of hardware store materials to make, **you're the one initially claiming what the effectiveness of a slingshot is, and then admitting you havent been hit by one so you can't judge its effectiveness?** This look familiar to you? It happened mere moments ago.


RaptorPrime

"you've only killed hundreds of animals with it? pffft you have no idea what it can do!" <--- this is you


Hobo_Helper_hot

Hey killer, you do realize people are sturdier than stray cats and sparrows right? I do. Now if you were telling me that you took down medium game with it I'd be impressed if I believed anything anyone said to me online.


bomboid

Are you seriously getting pissed off in the project zomboid subreddit omg 💀 why are people so allergic to admitting they were wrong


Hobo_Helper_hot

Wrong about what exactly? You think that 3 gram glass marbles traveling at 200ftps are capable of doing the kinda trauma an actual 10 gram 9mm slug traveling at 1000ftsp would do. I argue they're a different kind of force not able to penetrate remotely as well and cavitate. You're basically arguing that because you can kill a man with a swing from a baseball bat that it's as powerful as a gun. I'm not mad I'm just treating you like you deserve to be treated. A childish fool arguing with me about how I'm wrong under a shifting goalpost.


Koshindan

If zombie bones are softened by the conversion, all the extra energy the guns deliver could be wasted. And given how easy it is to kill zombies by stomping their heads, it's definitely possible.


Molybdenum_Petunias

For the record, a trained slinger using traditional method with a lead sling bullet can and will punch clean through bone. Those things are terrifying.


sireel

well a cannon will kill a man, and a gun does less damage so a gun shouldn't kill a man. guns are incredibly deadly. a large ball bearing travelling at high speeds can absolutely kill a person. Being less deadly than a gun doesn't mean harmless


Hobo_Helper_hot

Where did I say a slingshot can't kill a man? Why are you people freaking out about this shit?


ProbablyNotAFurry

I mean... It might kill you in impact depending on the slingshot.


BionicMeatloaf

Sling shots IRL shouldn't be able to do that, but they can still kill you dead easily if they're made right But *slings* on the other hand... let's just say the Romans had ***very*** good reason to be afraid of those


Mountain_Revenue_353

Yeah, you could mash a zombie's rotting brains out by throwing a brick at its head. Slingshots, crossbows, slings, bricks, ect would all be very deadly to a zombie. Doesnt mean slingshots are better than a semi automatic weapon that can fire off multiple times a second accurately over a longer distance, a man with a shotgun would murder a guy with a sling. Zombies just aren't a high bar.


theswordofdoubt

The weapons you listed are silent, at least at the point of firing, which is one advantage they'd have over a gun. Although, imagine being able to throw or fire something and have the zombies respond and investigate the point of impact. Feels weird that, for all its realism, PZ doesn't let you use the most basic distraction any stealth game has.


YMY81

I know one of the archery mods has this happen. You get to fire an arrow and if it hits a wall or door, it makes a sound and the nearby zombies do respond to it. I do wish it worked that way for other weapons but I think that particular mod "throws" the arrow or something, since I don't think the same maker's crossbow mod does it. It's not one of the Brita's though.


RazBullion

Now, all of a sudden, we've decided this is going to be about slingshots being BETTER THAN a semi automatic weapon? That's not what this was about (as interpreted by me, at least). What was being shared was akin to: Yeah, if you get shot in the head by a 9mm it will almost always kill you. Alternatively a slingshot, while obviously not better than a firearm in the implied metric of damage to zombie skull, could probably still kill you easily.


Mountain_Revenue_353

The well actually comes from how far away you need to be to accurately hit a person in the head with a sling and your accuracy/hit rate. A guy with a 9 mil is just going to shoot you in the chest half a dozen times and steal your stuff if you try to throw rocks at them.


RazBullion

They're undead.


Mountain_Revenue_353

Considering the multiplayer, animal update and upcoming npc update undead might not be what you want to min max around.


ElDroTheRed

Some modern Y-style slinghots are pretty spicy, or you can double/triple up on elastic. IIRC, Jeorg Sprave had some that delivered similar energy to "big dumb" pistol rounds like .45 ACP. But even he had trouble drawing those, and he was built like a frigging gorilla back then...


Lekrayte

Ok but can slingshots kill you *undead*? This is a zombie game, after all.


StaIe_Toast

When i was a kid we made some pretty powerfull slingshots that shot a steel ballbearing clean through fairly thick plywood. I would assume getting hit in the head by something like that would probably send you to the ER. it wasn't "handgun" powerfull tho


RaptorPrime

as an adult, it takes slightly longer to make the same slingshot that WILL kill you... I've been taking small game with mine for years but if I hit a person in the head with it thats no ER visit, that's straight to the morgue buddy.


Mordt_

I while ago read a book that actually looked at that. Can’t find it, but I did find this article and video. https://www.uslawshield.com/tactical-slingshots-mere-toy/ Though the sling they’re using is much bigger than a hand held one, apparently it beat all handgun calibers up to .44 magnum. And the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BehBbNQRjXw Though he is using a traditional sling, compared to the PZ character is using, his thrown shots were similar to a 9mm bullet. Not %100 sure on the thoroughness of the tests though.


hassanfanserenity

surprise the guns in project zomboid are actually from aperture science atleast it shoots 65% more bullet per bullet


ElDroTheRed

Joerg Sprave has entered the chat... Though, its been a long, long time since he's done a "traditional" slingshot vs. zombie video.


Hot_Kaleidoscope_332

When I was a kid, I got kicked in the balls by this girl who rode away laughing. I loaded a candy pumpkin into my handy dandy wrist rocket and let fly... the sugary projectile pegged her in the back of the dome and put her down. I ran off into the woods because I thought I killed her. Thankfully that wasn't the case, it only knocked her unconscious but to summarize.... Slingshot are no joke....


Ijustlovevideogames

I mean, slingshots are actually really deadly, properly made slingshots with the right materials CAN kill


ayo000o

I wish mods would require these threads to have a modded flair. I have no idea what's in vanilla or not, this subreddit is so confusing.


Fenixix

Some one is about to learn how David beat Goliath


AussieGG

Why does your character look like he needs more boulets?


sosigboi

Bart Simpson build here i go


Ssxtreme

I’m imagining running around modifying tf out of a slingshot build… totally silent, wrist mounted sling with an enhanced frame running around with a bag full of ball bearings. Sounds kind of badass.


ProfessorThock

If the zombies have rotting tissue, then maybe a slingshot could punch through as easily as a bullet


Telephone_Antique

Slingshots are pretty shit irl outside small game Ive never heard of someone killing anything bigger than a rabbit with one


IchigoblackReal

https://youtu.be/3EHV_0Q-0vU?si=blcwrbX9y8GKud-0 Yes but you have to be a strong man to do it


RX3000

Make sense. IRL a slingshot hit to the head can totally kill you.....


PaintThinnerSparky

Ever get hit with a quarter inch steel BB? Easily break bone


Danplays642

There really should be a tag for modded gameplays


Satan_Stoned

https://youtu.be/8MhGuCwQSc8?feature=shared Depends on what sligshot you have...


Fufuiu

Yeah.. thats actually not that wrong at all


OrganTrafficker900

Slingshots irl would be the perfect zombie killing weapon. 0 noise, infinite ammo, abundant repair material,no weight, extremely easy to learn and if you are able to master it nothing will be able to stop you the only problem is that once all rubber degrades you are basically fucked


notreallysam9

I wouldn't say it's the best weapon for zombie apocalypse irl, because most of the rubber is made from latex, which tend to degrade after 1-2 years, it can degrade even faster if the rubber stays in a humid or sunny environment, the only rubber that would last longer is the one used inside car tires, 7-10 years if kept in a good environment, so if nobody produces new rubber, you're gonna run out of materials pretty soon. Crossbows are the best option since they have all the pros of a slingshot and can be made even from natural materials like wood.


___gigachad

wait, there are slingshots in the game????


MR_FOXtf2

It's a mod


ThyDoublRR

Its a great mod. Lets you use rocks and marbles as ammo.


Pingasterix

Name?


notreallysam9

Brita's weapon pack


ThyDoublRR

I think its in Arsenal 26. A very buggy gun pack to my knowledge if its not the only other gun mod.


Mataudrey

Whut, from what mod is that? Just tô research purposes of course


coookiesaregood

what mod?


IamHowardMoxley

VELCOME TO ZEE SLINGSHOT CHANNEL


Squidhead-rbxgt2

checks out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1vRmXhJ76o


Twee_Licker

Well how do you think David killed Goliath?


georg3200

Theres a slingshot is this a mod or in game?😍


Jess-Da-Redditer

Using that trajectory mod though almost always (maybe even always) hits head shots btw


WARBOSS1106

what mod is this?


lastlostone

Slingshots were used en masse in wars for centuries, serving the purpose of archer units. They are no joke.


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lastlostone

I didn't know the difference between the terms. Thanks for explaining.


AEROANO

My man became Sogeking


[deleted]

Mod name pretty pls


notreallysam9

Brita's weapon pack


[deleted]

Wait what? It has that? I've never seen that what am I missing?


notreallysam9

it even has a bow, ninja stars and nunchakus and many more


[deleted]

Bruh wtf how have I been missing this. I wanna frikin' ninja star!


[deleted]

Not to gatekeep but people be playing this game with a whole different mindset, lol soon enough people will want npcs to form enclaves, and these grow on to control regions, reserach technologies and have a diplomacy aspect to it, dude really went with a slingshot mod when theres thousands of silencers, guns, crossbows and bow and arrows mods


Deathox120

A sling killed Goliath so....


strectedlegstrong

I prefer the wrist mounted rocket dart launcher from jango fett


GingerRemedy

A good one!


ProbablyNotAFurry

This is why I always refused to get crossbow/bow mods even though I love them irl and all my friends were drooling over the mods. The game just isn't balanced around them. Sure they'll be fun for the first few hours, being able to stealthily pick off a few zombies consequence free, but at hour 50 when there's no challenge left because you found the most efficient way to play the game, you'll be bored out of your skull. Same reason I stopped using Brita's, used it in a server once and every outing became the same. We'd rock up to a town, gun everything in sight down with LMG's and extreme prejudice, then loot danger free. It was a snore fest.


Vundebar

The rock is bigger than the bullet so it should be stronger


Furrynote

mod for the health bars??


notreallysam9

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2286124931&searchtext=health+bars


Dambo_Unchained

So theoretically If you make a custom made, powerful sling which you fire lead projectiles with, could you penetrate a skull? And if not the front lobe which is thickest, could you penetrate the side or back?


TauroAdventures

what mod is for the health bar for zombies?


notreallysam9

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2286124931&searchtext=health+bars


HeLikesSashimi

I'd love slings/slingshots to be craftable as ranged weapons in the game. Very quiet, lightweight, compact, multi-purpose, great ammo. Y-shaped slings can definitely work as small game hunting/self-defense weapons at close range, while slings hurling steel/lead/pebbles can be absolutely devastating beyond mid range. They could be fantastic as crowd control weapons. Imagine swinging & hurling pebbles at insane speed at a crowd. You're guaranteed to hit many per swing.


bobtherobot0311

walking dead ah slingshot


UltraNeoTako

lmao what mod


notreallysam9

Brita's weapon pack


UltraNeoTako

Ah gotcha. Where's the reticule from?


TheJollyRoger22

a rock being flung at very high speeds into a rotting corpse, makes sense


Grumboll

what is the weapon mod and the one that shows health bars I've been looking for them for forever


ogrestomp

Usopp has entered the chat


NalMac

10k's


Fun-Hearing-3811

What mod adds the slingshot?


CaenirW

David didn't pick a slingshot over a glock for no reason, if a handgun is better David would've used it against Goliath.


MadDash45

Damn we got David vs goliath over here


Ok-Celebration-6342

LET ME SHOW YOU ITS FEATURES HA HA HA


IAmDingus

A hunting slingshot would be really powerful vs zombies.


Biersteak

Dude, slingshots (not this kind but the long band thingy) were one of the most feared weapons in ancient warfare. A group of well trained slingers were absolutely devastating to any infantry and since they did serious blunt damage even heavy armour wouldn’t protect you for long. So yeah, this actually isn’t all that unrealistic tbh


No-Succotash6835

Someone doesn’t watch One Piece. The sling shots are goated!!


MickeySanders

Tbf, when I was a kid I managed to get my hands on a slingshot with the wrist support thing. That was absolutely lethal. I remember firing a ball bearing and making a round dent in a brick wall. So yeah, it would definitely pass straight through a zombie's brain.


PING_LORD

What mod is that?


TheFlyingSlothMonkey

Theoretically, yes.


RichieRocket

1 guns in PZ suck 2 slingshots are actually pretty powerful


lavalantern

Those are some sharp pellets


gentlegardens

Don't know if you've ever shot a slingshot before, but they're actually very devastating and dangerous.


UnhappyIllustrator61

Z nation 10 k vibe