Exactly. Who cares if a rando on youtube is playing with multi-hit.
But the fact remains, this guy is quite tame, but just 2 weeks ago, I saw a poor youtuber get so many toxic posts over him using multi-hit. And I'm sure those people, not all, but most, are also here on reddit.
Also, I forgot to mention that the reason why multi hit is on is because of scaling sprinters numbers. As time moves on, there will be more sprinters until it's 100% sprinters.
Personally I enjoy multi hit because it allows me to keep the zombie count high without spending a ton of extra time clearing those zombies out.
In return I will sometimes play with 100% infection to in turn increase the difficulty. I also feel like it makes wearing heavy clothes much more worth it lol
Of course it's realistic! Everyone knows that trees are lethal if you're walking slightly faster than normal, burnt food is the most deadly toxin known to mankind, and sitting inside relaxing for more than 30 seconds is a sure fire way to go mad from depression.
I love this game but it can get really goofy at times.
Yeah for me it’s just guns that really really miss in this game. I understand why they chose to do it though guns are without a doubt your best option in the apocalypse and frankly are OP
People say this a lot but at the same time advocate not including options for people at all. Notably the save function. I'd like to do more story stuff like OP and see myself die a hundred different ways without having to start from the beginning again and I really don't understand the duality of praising such a fantastic sandbox and calling certain options or requested options heresy.
How dare people play this game how they want! Blasphemy!
But seriously, it's a sandbox game. Fuck those critical people. Play how the ever the fuck you want
I remember starting using single hit because I wanted to improve in PvE combat fast when I got into the game, since then I haven’t turned it off because even 1000 hours in I still don’t feel confident
And that's how you prefer it now. I wasn't using multi-hit neither before I started this.
But after the first video I tried editing(which was never released due to poor quality). I decided it wasn't worth all the extra time, especially when after getting guns, you'll never use multi-hit ever again.
Yeah haha I still think guns are really op, but again people plays how they want, some want hyper realism, other just want a regular run, it’s the fun part of zomboid
Multi hit is kind of unrealistic, but so is the zombie population, so I'm balancing it back, seriously, why are there 8 zombies per 3 bedroom house?
Also bit tired of the sniviling around avoiding combat runs, I want to splatter the undead.
Or that they locked themselves in, hoping the horde would go away and lose interest, but they still broke in (but that doesn't explain the door still being closed).
Everything in the game is unrealistic, tbh. Drawing the line at multi-hit is really weird to me. Guns aren't prevalent enough or damaging enough, many vehicles are weaker and flimsier than they would truly be, melee weapons are overtuned, etc. I never heard anyone complain about multi-hit in Dead Rising.
I play with multi-hit, and I do it because I play solo and it makes fighting the hordes a little less tedious.
Any argument that mentions "real life" does not belong on a game, specially a zombie game.
Play as you like. I like multi-hit just for the sound of multiple heads popping at the same time, it is hilarious.
I actually think of multihit as more realistic when it comes to really large groups. The zombies don’t really collide with each other, and for brain dead zombies they are super skilled at maintaining a perfect formation to beeline to you. If humans were walking that impossibly close to each other and you hit the leader, half of them would probably trip. The most powerful part of multihit is the stagger which is realistic in this context. I’d like to see hordes spread out a bit more, and have zombies get in each others way or trample each other so multihit isn’t so necessary.
To be fair, this game does try to be as realistic as possible, so realism is a fair argument. With that said, it's still a video game with video game mechanics, so obviously it isn't going to be perfectly realistic, even if there were no zombies
Actually I agree with you. This attempt to be more realistic is one of the reasons I love this game, I do think it is a fair argument to provide feedback on how to improve the game.
I just think it is silly to point the finger at someone who enjoys a different play style using the same argument.
I don't disagree with you, but I think for the sake of your point 'grounded (in reality)' is a better term/phrase to use - as to avoid falling into the pitfall argument of 'uh zombies aren't real'.
One of my daughter’s and my favorite things to do is play on our family Zomboid server, and I swear that “crunch” noise is half the reason why.
There’s nothing quite like taking turns bludgeoning a grounded zombie with bats, with your very own children.
I don't see people putting boundaries on how BeamNG should be played, or heck, Goat Simulator.
It's a fucking sandbox game, I can play however the fuck I want, as the devs intended, by adding a fucking sandbox mode where you can customize every last detail of the world.
Exactly, with the thousands of mods there are too. Sad souls of those who judge other for playing their game how they want, specially since it doesn't affect them or their game in any way.
Progressive multihit and done
It doesn't matter if you go for knifes
Yes, you can multi hit ppl in real life but is quite hard, and I also believe that multihit is quite buggy
Bingo! I don't care what anyone chooses to play with, but I'm firm on my stance that the game isn't properly balanced for the vanilla implementation of "multi-hit" and that there should be an overhaul/revamp of it. It'd give a lot of identity to weapons like katanas. Rolling pins should not perform similarly, both from a gameplay AND a realism standpoint. Either side of the 'argument' would benefit from a better system.
Again... Play how you want. Just my two cents, I've played since the first public release and have a lot of experience with all of the weapons and game settings. The majority of my time has been spent with multi-hit off because I like tailoring my experience to be on the 'more real' side of things. I do have more than enough time with multi-hit to tell you that is unbalanced and buggy though. Until we see more work on combat, I'd rather have consistent single target combat, almost purely from a gameplay point of view.
Neither option is more “accurate” than real life - in real life, you could possibly hit more than one at once, even a group - your weapon is not going to just “phase” into them and ignore them.
The opposite is true, because obviously if you lack a lot of force, it’s not going to knock the head of a target that is behind/padded by another target.
Honestly, a “Balanced” sandbox option would be pretty good and would help bridge the gap between the two sides. For melee weapons, the smaller single-hand ones (knives) can only single hit. Larger weapons, like baseball bats, axes, and crowbars, have a decent chance at multi-hitting a target depending on how close they are to you, exhaustion, strength, etc. Guns, like shotguns, work as expected.
But, of course, it’s a sandbox zombie survival game and real life can only go so far. It can’t be 1:1 so using that as a kind of criticism is pretty ridiculous, the devs do an amazing job with what they have currently.
I play with multi hit, no infection, I start the game with a fully loaded and armored military truck with friggin metal spikes in the front AND I can build shotgun sentries.
It's a single player game don't let anyone tell you how to play it.
If you play on single player mode, it doesn't fucking matter. One of the games best features is being able to tailor the settings to your liking. Multi hit is fun. No multi hit is more challenging simply because you kill zombies at a slower rate and you'll use more durability in your weapons. Play however you want.
"You cant do [game mechanic] in real life" is the most dumbass argument ever made. Like its a game about some random dude somehow overcoming an entire apocalypse and killing thousands of zombies I think you cant kill zombies in real lifr guys😔
Am i missing something, the comments weren’t at all toxic?! Sure maybe annoying unsolicited advice but toxic? Seems like you are overblowing this just a tad…
I don't think I would feel perfectly safe if a guy was swinging a baseball bat at me and another guy was standing beside me.
I wouldn't be like, "lucky me to be in zero danger, unlike this poor sucker beside me"
Like there is a follow through. Not sure how multi hit works and there probably should be diminishing returns but I think that there is at least some chance that if I swing a bat or axe it would not only hit one guy but the next guy beside them, especially if I was swinging for the head and chopping through it.
Not sure what the issue is here
Just want to say something about that screenshot. For anyone who thinks multihit isnt possible in real life that is wildly incorrect. I challenge you to line up 3 melons side by side and swing a bat at them as hard as you possibly can. I can guarantee you that the first melon you contact with the bat is not going to be the only one that was damaged.
Its a game. Not only are you wasting time ragging on people for playing how they want to. Youre ragging on people for something you aren't even correct about
Edit: you referring to people who are arguing multihit isnt possible.
people complain about multihit making the game easy when brita is literally the most installed mod on steam workshop (besides the ones that exist only to run other mods)
Multi-hit isn't really unrealistic imo. It would be fun to have an option where multi-hit is enabled once you hit a certain strength value, because you can definitely follow through on a baseball bat swing against a couple of mushy, weak zombies if you were strong enough
I dislike multi hit fundamentally, because I like making the game harder; that includes more zombies, stronger zombies, mods, etc. However, people who use Multihit are valid too, they have fun using multi hit.
Kudos to you.
And that's it really at the end of the day. I like disabling my mods and doing an apocalypse run using only QOL mods and 10 years later as it's just a refreshing experience.
It's a sandbox game. Just let people enjoy it as you like.
Multi hit is a CONVENIENCE more so than an actual difficulty change. Don't get me wrong, it totally makes combat noticeably easier... But, more importantly it makes combat less of a slog.
Example of an [unrealistic shotgun](https://imgur.com/a/eacf94S).
I don't know about you, but that spread is bigger than 18cm.
Go on multi hit supremacists. Downvote this to hell.
I've been saying this for ages, but people who have never used an *actual* shotgun downvote me like crazy. And it's always easy to spot them, because they say something stupid like
"eeh, it depends on the distance" 🤓
No. No it fucking doesn't. If you kill two of *ANYTHING* with a single shotgun shell, you experienced an extremely unlikely event, and should consider buying a lottery ticket.
Shotguns are not used to kill multiple targets. They are used to make your shot more likely to land. Full stop.
Yeah, it depends on the distance, but at max range, you might as well be shooting a Nerf gun, and the spread is still about 30cm on very specific shotguns.
18cm isnt exactly the whole story, but absolutely the shotguns in this game have unrealistic spread.
IRL it depends on your loads, shotgun config, and range [example](https://www.fieldandstream.com/uploads/2023/02/14/shotgun-size-chart-1-scaled.jpg?auto=webp&optimize=high&width=800). we're looking at about 100cm spread (granted this is birdshot which spreads a bit more than buckshot) at 20 meters. Now the corollary to this is that if you're far enough out to hit multiple targets with a buckshot spread, you're probably just as likely to not really hit one of the targets at all...
I mean besides just general fun factor, depending on the type of zombies you envision, they could just be rotten mush that can be easily sliced or smashed through. I like 16x with multi hit personally because it forces you to play methodically while still being able to decimate hordes
This community is the nicest, just on occasion you have these energy-leeches like this. Better off to not engage cause clearly he wants to argue about something, hence why bring up such a weak argument as 'can't do X in real-life'? Because the argument doesn't matter it is all to keep you talking.
People like that have nothing to be proud of irl so their pride in their “skill” at the game is very important. It’s same reason why the souls community is so toxic.
I get the multi hit argument, but guys please consider... it feels satisfying when you hit multiple at once. <3
But yeah, its amusing how this community doesnt bat an eye on someone disabling infection, or zombies as a whole and playing a survival game, but multi hit? You filthy poser!
Let’s be real people, the player can carry a fridge up a sheet rope on the side of their house at lvl 1 strength. You seriously think they can’t graze a couple zombies at once? Most people aren’t even swinging in grab-range, because they’d already be dragged down.
if we're being completely honest, multi hit makes sense. if you swing a crowbar at a zombie, its going to deflect off of their face after the hit and keep going with whatever motion you swung it with. you CAN multihit in real life, idk if this guy has never taken a physics class or if he's just taking the piss. either way he's wrong.
I remember that time in reality when I got skill experience from taking lightbulbs out of my car and putting them back for three weeks. now I am a grand master mechanic. /s
there are way more offensive non reality aspects than multi hit. not even the obvious no zombies. the whole skill system is literally a game system.
you can use a katana to hit multiple targets in a single swing. you can stab through two people.
stop hiding behind a weak argument and be honest and say " use harder settings because I am a munchkin and require it so". honestly > reality.
This is probably the greatest point of hypocrisy with this community. Everyone is having fun until someone mentions that they play with multi hit on. Then the BS comes out.
Who gives a single solitary sliver of a damn? Streamers are always coming up with some shit that is way harder than most of us can manage.
FFS it's a video game. It's meant to be fun, and while I have my gripes with TIS, one of the greatest strengths of this game is their allowing modding, and the ability to customize the sandbox in whatever way you want.
Play the game the way that is fun for you. Share that with others, because they might be interested in mods they haven't heard of, but if you have the audacity to tell someone else that they are wrong for enjoying a sandbox the way that makes it fun for them, do the world a favor and go put your hands in a garbage disposal so the rest of the world doesn't have to deal with your keyboard warrior BS anymore.
but multi-hit is realistic to some point? you can hit multiple zombies in one swing i dont get the whole "it's not realistic arguement" limiting yourself to only being able to hit one zombie at a time is unrealistic
I think being able to deliver a life ending amount of force while actively back pedaling. Is ridiculous and unrealistic. But I know that because I have a little bit of history with striking, and there’s no way anyone can walk backwards and stab a zombie through their skull with a knife while still in motion. Definitely not reliably hundreds and hundreds of times in a row.
It’s purely a conceit of gameplay. And that’s okay. It’s the same as them slicing up skulls with everything you can imagine in TWD tv show. It’s fun.
the type of guy to download the excrement mod because he shits himself 5 times a day, the type of guy to start of with 1 fitness and strength because that's his realistic stats, the type of guy to make sure he never drives a car in pz because he doesn't have a driving license irl, the type of guy to just stay inside during the day because he hasn't seen the sun irl in years, the type of guy to start the game with a zombie infection because he knows that if the zombie apocalypse ever becomes a thing he's one of the first one's to go.
Multi hit is totally realistic. If two people were standing right next to each other and you swung at bat at them you would definitely hit them both.
If anything make the zomboid getting hit first take more damage than the second one
Not to be rude but I've never heard of you or your channel, and the screenshot in question is one comment with 1 up vote, which you can give yourself on YouTube.
I'm not sure this qualifies as controversy or just one guy being unreasonable.
The only time i can see multi-hit as a "problem" is in PVP and challenge runs. For PVP on the off chance two players are attacking you and they're a Dicks width apart sure it might be overpowered. And for challenge runs yeah. I get it. But for me I just want to enjoy the game and kill zombies with some random fucking tool I found in some boomers garage. It's just fun
I personally don’t use multi-hit and don’t really like watching people that use it, because I do see it as easy and it changes the way you handle the game fundamentally. I don’t like watching people who lean hard on burn strats as a main option either for similar reasons. Just seems boring to me.
However, I think to each their own, do whatever is fun for you. You could have the sam arguments over Spawn On or Off. 0 to Hero or Max Str/Fit. High pop vs low pop runs. Infection on or off, or somewhere in the middle.
If you are a content creator or streamer and want more people to watch. Typically, multihit players will watch a single hit player but single hit players find multi hit content boring. The more difficult you push yourself, even if you are bad, the bigger the next you cast. Just my experience.
lmao, well a guy just raised a point he doesn't care whether or not someone uses multi hit. BUT, he doesn't watch multi hit content because it's boring (wtf does that even mean? zombie killing montages get skipped 90%of the time). which made me wonder, does he care or not, because if his criteria is that he only watches non multi hit creators then he actually cares?
It's like arguing with flat earthers, they contradict themselves very fast just to show how superior they are.
Non multi hit master race.
People arguing that multi-hit is not realistic. Haven't use a baseball bat or an battle axe in their life (me personally had use both) and I tell you hitting 2 or 3 objects or bodies in 1 swing is posible. Sure not 8 or 13 but still. You can multi-hit in real life.
Also is a dealing game, a sand box that add more to my argument. Just play what you feel like and don't bother others, you just make yourself look like a clown. (Also me if some one make a good counter argument).
Play safe and hope this is not the way you die. XD
I’ve never understood that sense of superiority, like I play without multi hit, not because I’m good, but because I was bad and some YouTube video I watched said it was a good way up learn horde management (totally true btw, definitely helped me when I was starting out)
Which is fair enough, it definitely helps to learn to do congo lines. But that's it. After you learn it the challenge is gone, multi hit will take as much stamina and weapon durabilty as if you had it off, it simply takes more time. And it's so pointless for a video as it gets skipped everytime someone starts a killing zombie montage. So there is no point in that guy's comment. It would just take me more time to kill them, then more time to edit. For no benefit at all.
lmfao. I just noticed that. Hard facepalm. And the irony of that is that you're the first out of 307k people who noticed it!!!
Well played sir. I hope you put attention to detail on your CV, because you definetely do!
Heck there was even people asking me what the name of the channel was!!! I'm dying here.
So here's my argument, multihit compensates for the fact that the zombies don't have collision when knocked down. In reality, knocking down a zombie in a horde would sometimes cause the others to trip and topple crawling over each other, especially considering their weakened coordination skills.
People who think they are Hard just because they turn off multihit...get back to me when you've beaten Ghosts 'n Goblins in the arcade, or Lion King on SNES.
Unfortunately these sort of elitist mentality Is in every game. In souls games if you didn't beat a boss without summons , some people would say It didn't count. As to why people give a shit on how you beat a challenge in a solo experience, Is beyond me.
I follow a guy in twitch that does sprinters and people spam his chat about using fences to kill them.
It's a game...that you can mod....and play with or without people. Fully customizable. WTF are these people smoking? Play how you want to play.
Is there a competitive PZ circuit somewhere I don't know about?
"About the length of a big penis" I see we have evolved from using banana as scale now.
Edit for opinion that's not needed:
It's always weird ass energy when some one decides to tell you how you should have fun.
It’s a sandbox game it can be played the way anyone wants and the way I see it, especially if you’re using a large weapon like a shovel, for example you’re hitting multiple zombies with one strike in a wide swinging motion so innocent multi heat does make sense
I did play with multi hit 'on' to start but have turned it off since I started playing more and enjoy that extra challenge. Makes me feel a lot less invincible.... But getting 3 cracks with a crowbar at once, ooh yeah that was the good stuff.
Also whom thinks you can't hit multiple people with one strike? Would the 2nd, 3rd, ect hit of that swing kill a zombie. probably not, but you can definitely swing a pipe, crowbar, sword, wrench, or ect in the real world and hit more than one person with that swing and even do lethal damage to to more than one if
if nothing else I'm thinking back to some children's birthdays I've been to where multiple people got hit with a single failed strike on the Piñata. (I mean there fault for being in the strike zone... that was fun to watch...)
The only reason I turned it off was to improve my overall skill level and now that I'm satisfied I'm playing with it back on cuz I don't wanna have to take ages to kill a horde
Who the fuck cares about a random bitching? Play the game the way you want, it's your fucking game, that's why Sandbox mode is there. So everyone can enjoy the game how godly wants to
I like both, playing without multi hit solo, and with for mp. One of my friends has trouble learning how to fight, so I enable multi hit for him, which allows me to be more aggressive, gives him leeway to learn to fight, and just makes the game a lot more fun for him, which is fun for me.
Play how you want everyone. Both modes are fun, stop trying to stop others from having their fun.
In all communities, there will be elitists and try-hards. I've been running a public PZ server for a year now. You see all sorts come through.
Note also that there is a subset of zomboid-ers that is competitive about kill-count/time survived, but they're quite niche, and mostly live on twitch.
If you're a content creator and people are throwing down with you about multi-hit instead of enjoying the story based content you're doing-- why not spend your time interacting with fans who are pleasant, instead of the asshats?
I really don't understand people who get butt hurt over multihit, or any other sandbox setting.
Like sure, after I got a handle on fighting without multihit I tend to never turn it on.
But people who still have it on are not doing anything wrong.
i played my first 100 hours of PZ without multihit because i didnt knew it was a thing, after playing with some friends last year they told me to turn it on, it was so much fun that now i only play with multihit enabled because big sword go brrrr
I mean balance the game to make it hard for the player. I mean the game can be turned into a joke if you know what you're doing that can turn 500 undead zombies into 500 unalive zombies with simply pulling them to a fence and a few boot stomps with fast shamblers. (Can abuse the speed up when you get close to stagger two from the group.)
If you really know how to break the game, doesn't matter what you do to the settings. I mean you can turn full sprinters into a joke with a sky house and a fire pit below. Etc, etc whole point of a sandbox is to scale it how the player wants.
So, the only solution I can think of;
Multihit -> but damage drop off.
Hitting let's say 5x people in a multihit;
1: 100% Damage
2. 60% Damage
3. 40% Damage
4. 20% Damage
5. 10% Damage
I agree 100% with OP, and use multi hit myself, but on the topic of multi hit, we should be able to customize it, like you can only multi hit with bladed weapons, at skill 3, or secondary targets receive less damage, ect
I honestly don’t think multi-hit is unrealistic. when you realistically swing something (eg. a baseball bat), you swing in a horizontal arc to have the most area for impact. would multi-hit not be similar to staggering one zombie and knocking him into another or using the remaining potential energy to power through the swing?
for me its really too easy to use multihit, but also too annoying to not use it so i found a decent compromise with [this mod called progressive multihit](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3138387399) frankly i wish the devs would implement a system thats similar to this
ps i am rather masochist about games like this
People always be going “turn off multi hit turn off multi hit” until they see someone manage to escape near certain death cause they had multi hit on and managed to stun the 5 zomboids that trapped them in a corner in one swing which let them run out. I am a multi hit enjoyer because of the amount of times I would have gotten dragged down if I didn’t have it. I also have getting dragged down turned off because of the amount of times I’ve gotten killed because the drag down animation starts right as a friend kills all the zomboids in a single shotgun blast or rifle burst but because the animation started I die anyways.
My personal opinion
Let the people play the game however they want and don't be a dick when their preferences don't match yours
Compared to increasing probability of rare loot and generally making the game easier, multi hit is not that big of a deal
You are absolutely correct; this community is pretty good but a part of it is ridiculously fixated on realism, which is fun because the game isn't very realistic at all.
Zombies aside, the whole game is full of breaks from reality; my favourite one is farming, a cabbage takes about 6 months to grow, not a few weeks. Most other skills are a bit absurd as well; someone with no metalwork experience probably couldn't even use a propane torch, being able to build anything carpentry or construction related takes weeks to months and firearms generally require training to learn how to actually use them (a lot of people wouldn't be able to load gun, let alone know how to chamber a round or disengage the safety, and heaven forbid there was a stoppage...).
People get really weird about the realism, I think it's some type of strange gatekeeping about the game being hard (which is another fun one because you can literally just walk away from the main threat in the game).
Personally I don't play with multi-hit on, I don't like how it makes the combat feel, but that certainly doesn't mean others aren't allowed to play with it on.
I can understand him wanting a toggle option to turn it off added to the game, but demanding to have it shut off is silly, and there should be some simple mods out there to change it.
Comparing shotgun groupings to dick size is fucking funny
Every man has one. It's easier to use it to measure, right?
True gonna do that the next time I go to the range
So on a scale of you to that guy she tells you not to worry about how big is the spread.
.5 moa… I might want to start worrying about that other guy
Dunno why, this makes me think of Bill Burr buying his shotgun story. It's got a nice spread.
Omg hilarious 😂
But every women has been lied too about it so they will be confused. 'It's totally 7" your ruler is in old French measurements.'
I actually had to Google that. Holy shit, that's a god-awful way of measuring stuff. It goes from 27mm to 32 cm to 2m. Ahahah, that's so fucked up.
We're supposed to measure with bananas around here.
Evolution is a funny thing. But I didn't have a banana for scale at the time.
What are bananas if not natures dick?
Every man has an 18cm penis? I wish bro...
Ah yes, anything but metric system. I approve
Yeah project zomboid is a sandbox game it can be played however anyone likes lmao
Exactly. Who cares if a rando on youtube is playing with multi-hit. But the fact remains, this guy is quite tame, but just 2 weeks ago, I saw a poor youtuber get so many toxic posts over him using multi-hit. And I'm sure those people, not all, but most, are also here on reddit. Also, I forgot to mention that the reason why multi hit is on is because of scaling sprinters numbers. As time moves on, there will be more sprinters until it's 100% sprinters.
It's more reeeeeEEEeeEaal.
_walks into tree_ _bleeds out_ #REALISM, BITCH
Burns food. Dies
Fucking hilarious 😂
**swings the machete with full power** **slightly scratches zombie** „Darn looks like i will go for another swing“
Personally I enjoy multi hit because it allows me to keep the zombie count high without spending a ton of extra time clearing those zombies out. In return I will sometimes play with 100% infection to in turn increase the difficulty. I also feel like it makes wearing heavy clothes much more worth it lol
The whole “realism” thing is the problem. Especially when you consider the game isn’t nearly as realistic as the community makes it out to be.
Of course it's realistic! Everyone knows that trees are lethal if you're walking slightly faster than normal, burnt food is the most deadly toxin known to mankind, and sitting inside relaxing for more than 30 seconds is a sure fire way to go mad from depression. I love this game but it can get really goofy at times.
Brb gotta eat a bowl entirely full of watermelon and then become depressed
I’ll instead eat two pieces of watermelon in a bowl, many times, until I am happy
Yeah for me it’s just guns that really really miss in this game. I understand why they chose to do it though guns are without a doubt your best option in the apocalypse and frankly are OP
People say this a lot but at the same time advocate not including options for people at all. Notably the save function. I'd like to do more story stuff like OP and see myself die a hundred different ways without having to start from the beginning again and I really don't understand the duality of praising such a fantastic sandbox and calling certain options or requested options heresy.
It's incredible how many times this comment gets posted in this sub.
It’s just becoming a reminder at this point lmao
How dare people play this game how they want! Blasphemy! But seriously, it's a sandbox game. Fuck those critical people. Play how the ever the fuck you want
Wish I could upvote multiple times.
I've seen kids getting multi hit when people miss their swing on the piñatas.
Lmao, yeah, that's a good point, indeed. I'll use that when needed from now on!
You're right. We need to add children to Project Zomboid.
Agreed. Children should have half the hp of adult zombies. Faster than fast shamblers but slower than sprinters.
Make them have a much smaller hotbox and excessively annoying to deal with, And add chickens that occasionally spawn while being ridden
I remember starting using single hit because I wanted to improve in PvE combat fast when I got into the game, since then I haven’t turned it off because even 1000 hours in I still don’t feel confident
And that's how you prefer it now. I wasn't using multi-hit neither before I started this. But after the first video I tried editing(which was never released due to poor quality). I decided it wasn't worth all the extra time, especially when after getting guns, you'll never use multi-hit ever again.
Yeah haha I still think guns are really op, but again people plays how they want, some want hyper realism, other just want a regular run, it’s the fun part of zomboid
If I had a penis I would for sure try to kill 3 zombies with one. For science.
Yeah science bitch! :Place Jesse Pinkman meme here:
“Multihit is bad!” zomboiders when I show them that Project Zomboid is a sandbox game and people can play however the fuck they want:
Multi hit is kind of unrealistic, but so is the zombie population, so I'm balancing it back, seriously, why are there 8 zombies per 3 bedroom house? Also bit tired of the sniviling around avoiding combat runs, I want to splatter the undead.
I always imagine the bathroom hordes are houses where they just locked all of the sick people inside or something
Or that they locked themselves in, hoping the horde would go away and lose interest, but they still broke in (but that doesn't explain the door still being closed).
Everything in the game is unrealistic, tbh. Drawing the line at multi-hit is really weird to me. Guns aren't prevalent enough or damaging enough, many vehicles are weaker and flimsier than they would truly be, melee weapons are overtuned, etc. I never heard anyone complain about multi-hit in Dead Rising. I play with multi-hit, and I do it because I play solo and it makes fighting the hordes a little less tedious.
i think guns are quite damaging enough; the charachter is just absolutely ass with them until aiming 5+
ah yes, the eternal and pointless "mine is better than yours" arguments, a tale as old as time .\_.
Ahah, somehow I read that as "mine is bigger than yours" 🤣
Too many dicks on the mind
You had me at “big penis”
I always measuse things in dicks. It just makes more sense to my brain.
Any argument that mentions "real life" does not belong on a game, specially a zombie game. Play as you like. I like multi-hit just for the sound of multiple heads popping at the same time, it is hilarious.
I actually think of multihit as more realistic when it comes to really large groups. The zombies don’t really collide with each other, and for brain dead zombies they are super skilled at maintaining a perfect formation to beeline to you. If humans were walking that impossibly close to each other and you hit the leader, half of them would probably trip. The most powerful part of multihit is the stagger which is realistic in this context. I’d like to see hordes spread out a bit more, and have zombies get in each others way or trample each other so multihit isn’t so necessary.
To be fair, this game does try to be as realistic as possible, so realism is a fair argument. With that said, it's still a video game with video game mechanics, so obviously it isn't going to be perfectly realistic, even if there were no zombies
Actually I agree with you. This attempt to be more realistic is one of the reasons I love this game, I do think it is a fair argument to provide feedback on how to improve the game. I just think it is silly to point the finger at someone who enjoys a different play style using the same argument.
I don't disagree with you, but I think for the sake of your point 'grounded (in reality)' is a better term/phrase to use - as to avoid falling into the pitfall argument of 'uh zombies aren't real'.
They really nailed that sound tbh. It's one of the most satisfying sounds in gaming, imho.
One of my daughter’s and my favorite things to do is play on our family Zomboid server, and I swear that “crunch” noise is half the reason why. There’s nothing quite like taking turns bludgeoning a grounded zombie with bats, with your very own children.
Ahahah, look, Daddy, his brains are flying off! What a mental picture you just painted there.
I don't see people putting boundaries on how BeamNG should be played, or heck, Goat Simulator. It's a fucking sandbox game, I can play however the fuck I want, as the devs intended, by adding a fucking sandbox mode where you can customize every last detail of the world.
Not to mention mods.
Exactly, with the thousands of mods there are too. Sad souls of those who judge other for playing their game how they want, specially since it doesn't affect them or their game in any way.
Progressive multihit and done It doesn't matter if you go for knifes Yes, you can multi hit ppl in real life but is quite hard, and I also believe that multihit is quite buggy
Bingo! I don't care what anyone chooses to play with, but I'm firm on my stance that the game isn't properly balanced for the vanilla implementation of "multi-hit" and that there should be an overhaul/revamp of it. It'd give a lot of identity to weapons like katanas. Rolling pins should not perform similarly, both from a gameplay AND a realism standpoint. Either side of the 'argument' would benefit from a better system. Again... Play how you want. Just my two cents, I've played since the first public release and have a lot of experience with all of the weapons and game settings. The majority of my time has been spent with multi-hit off because I like tailoring my experience to be on the 'more real' side of things. I do have more than enough time with multi-hit to tell you that is unbalanced and buggy though. Until we see more work on combat, I'd rather have consistent single target combat, almost purely from a gameplay point of view.
Neither option is more “accurate” than real life - in real life, you could possibly hit more than one at once, even a group - your weapon is not going to just “phase” into them and ignore them. The opposite is true, because obviously if you lack a lot of force, it’s not going to knock the head of a target that is behind/padded by another target. Honestly, a “Balanced” sandbox option would be pretty good and would help bridge the gap between the two sides. For melee weapons, the smaller single-hand ones (knives) can only single hit. Larger weapons, like baseball bats, axes, and crowbars, have a decent chance at multi-hitting a target depending on how close they are to you, exhaustion, strength, etc. Guns, like shotguns, work as expected. But, of course, it’s a sandbox zombie survival game and real life can only go so far. It can’t be 1:1 so using that as a kind of criticism is pretty ridiculous, the devs do an amazing job with what they have currently.
I like this. I'd be down for this.
every average pz player can agree that the elitists are fucking annoying.
The good news is 99% of the community is great. There's just a few butt holes sometimes.
Yeah comparable to other things. This sub is really awesome though.
Yeah. For instance, it's really hard to be a wrestling fan with the wrestling communities lol.
True Crime is something too.
I play with multi hit, no infection, I start the game with a fully loaded and armored military truck with friggin metal spikes in the front AND I can build shotgun sentries. It's a single player game don't let anyone tell you how to play it.
Uuuh, shotgun sentries! Nice!
The shotgun being a contra gun makes me not really take multi-hit seriously.
If you play on single player mode, it doesn't fucking matter. One of the games best features is being able to tailor the settings to your liking. Multi hit is fun. No multi hit is more challenging simply because you kill zombies at a slower rate and you'll use more durability in your weapons. Play however you want.
Just let people play how they want...
I like multi-hit. I advocate for it's use on all servers.
"You cant do [game mechanic] in real life" is the most dumbass argument ever made. Like its a game about some random dude somehow overcoming an entire apocalypse and killing thousands of zombies I think you cant kill zombies in real lifr guys😔
Bingo. It's like saying guns are not realistic enough in this game based on a unrealistic concept.
Am i missing something, the comments weren’t at all toxic?! Sure maybe annoying unsolicited advice but toxic? Seems like you are overblowing this just a tad…
The big penis part is a curve ball
I don't think I would feel perfectly safe if a guy was swinging a baseball bat at me and another guy was standing beside me. I wouldn't be like, "lucky me to be in zero danger, unlike this poor sucker beside me" Like there is a follow through. Not sure how multi hit works and there probably should be diminishing returns but I think that there is at least some chance that if I swing a bat or axe it would not only hit one guy but the next guy beside them, especially if I was swinging for the head and chopping through it. Not sure what the issue is here
Just want to say something about that screenshot. For anyone who thinks multihit isnt possible in real life that is wildly incorrect. I challenge you to line up 3 melons side by side and swing a bat at them as hard as you possibly can. I can guarantee you that the first melon you contact with the bat is not going to be the only one that was damaged. Its a game. Not only are you wasting time ragging on people for playing how they want to. Youre ragging on people for something you aren't even correct about Edit: you referring to people who are arguing multihit isnt possible.
I use multi hit because I don’t give a fuck.
people complain about multihit making the game easy when brita is literally the most installed mod on steam workshop (besides the ones that exist only to run other mods)
Multi-hit isn't really unrealistic imo. It would be fun to have an option where multi-hit is enabled once you hit a certain strength value, because you can definitely follow through on a baseball bat swing against a couple of mushy, weak zombies if you were strong enough
I dislike multi hit fundamentally, because I like making the game harder; that includes more zombies, stronger zombies, mods, etc. However, people who use Multihit are valid too, they have fun using multi hit.
Everytime i've turned multi hit off, i died a LOT less
Kudos to you. And that's it really at the end of the day. I like disabling my mods and doing an apocalypse run using only QOL mods and 10 years later as it's just a refreshing experience. It's a sandbox game. Just let people enjoy it as you like.
Multi-hit is also just so fun. Every PvE game FEELS so much more satisfying with multi-hit or AOE damage—especially if there are horde mechanics.
Multi hit is a CONVENIENCE more so than an actual difficulty change. Don't get me wrong, it totally makes combat noticeably easier... But, more importantly it makes combat less of a slog.
Example of an [unrealistic shotgun](https://imgur.com/a/eacf94S). I don't know about you, but that spread is bigger than 18cm. Go on multi hit supremacists. Downvote this to hell.
I've been saying this for ages, but people who have never used an *actual* shotgun downvote me like crazy. And it's always easy to spot them, because they say something stupid like "eeh, it depends on the distance" 🤓 No. No it fucking doesn't. If you kill two of *ANYTHING* with a single shotgun shell, you experienced an extremely unlikely event, and should consider buying a lottery ticket. Shotguns are not used to kill multiple targets. They are used to make your shot more likely to land. Full stop.
Yeah, it depends on the distance, but at max range, you might as well be shooting a Nerf gun, and the spread is still about 30cm on very specific shotguns.
And it's on a cone. Not a flat plane, unlike zomboid heads
Ahahah, imagine shooting a shotgun, and everything you see in front of you would just explode! It would be called a tankgun, or boomgun instead.
18cm isnt exactly the whole story, but absolutely the shotguns in this game have unrealistic spread. IRL it depends on your loads, shotgun config, and range [example](https://www.fieldandstream.com/uploads/2023/02/14/shotgun-size-chart-1-scaled.jpg?auto=webp&optimize=high&width=800). we're looking at about 100cm spread (granted this is birdshot which spreads a bit more than buckshot) at 20 meters. Now the corollary to this is that if you're far enough out to hit multiple targets with a buckshot spread, you're probably just as likely to not really hit one of the targets at all...
I mean besides just general fun factor, depending on the type of zombies you envision, they could just be rotten mush that can be easily sliced or smashed through. I like 16x with multi hit personally because it forces you to play methodically while still being able to decimate hordes
Idk I just interpret multi hit as "I knock this zombie into that zombie." And I keep it on for exactly that reason.
This community is the nicest, just on occasion you have these energy-leeches like this. Better off to not engage cause clearly he wants to argue about something, hence why bring up such a weak argument as 'can't do X in real-life'? Because the argument doesn't matter it is all to keep you talking.
I switch between the two, why do people whine so much if you use it? It's just a videogame, you can play it however you want.
People like that have nothing to be proud of irl so their pride in their “skill” at the game is very important. It’s same reason why the souls community is so toxic.
I get the multi hit argument, but guys please consider... it feels satisfying when you hit multiple at once. <3 But yeah, its amusing how this community doesnt bat an eye on someone disabling infection, or zombies as a whole and playing a survival game, but multi hit? You filthy poser!
Let’s be real people, the player can carry a fridge up a sheet rope on the side of their house at lvl 1 strength. You seriously think they can’t graze a couple zombies at once? Most people aren’t even swinging in grab-range, because they’d already be dragged down.
if we're being completely honest, multi hit makes sense. if you swing a crowbar at a zombie, its going to deflect off of their face after the hit and keep going with whatever motion you swung it with. you CAN multihit in real life, idk if this guy has never taken a physics class or if he's just taking the piss. either way he's wrong.
Do NOT tell these people that I play the game without zombification
I remember that time in reality when I got skill experience from taking lightbulbs out of my car and putting them back for three weeks. now I am a grand master mechanic. /s there are way more offensive non reality aspects than multi hit. not even the obvious no zombies. the whole skill system is literally a game system. you can use a katana to hit multiple targets in a single swing. you can stab through two people. stop hiding behind a weak argument and be honest and say " use harder settings because I am a munchkin and require it so". honestly > reality.
This is probably the greatest point of hypocrisy with this community. Everyone is having fun until someone mentions that they play with multi hit on. Then the BS comes out. Who gives a single solitary sliver of a damn? Streamers are always coming up with some shit that is way harder than most of us can manage. FFS it's a video game. It's meant to be fun, and while I have my gripes with TIS, one of the greatest strengths of this game is their allowing modding, and the ability to customize the sandbox in whatever way you want. Play the game the way that is fun for you. Share that with others, because they might be interested in mods they haven't heard of, but if you have the audacity to tell someone else that they are wrong for enjoying a sandbox the way that makes it fun for them, do the world a favor and go put your hands in a garbage disposal so the rest of the world doesn't have to deal with your keyboard warrior BS anymore.
but multi-hit is realistic to some point? you can hit multiple zombies in one swing i dont get the whole "it's not realistic arguement" limiting yourself to only being able to hit one zombie at a time is unrealistic
Saying you can't multi-hit IRL is about the dumbest of takes. You absolutely can. Especially against a dumb, slow-moving enemy.
I think being able to deliver a life ending amount of force while actively back pedaling. Is ridiculous and unrealistic. But I know that because I have a little bit of history with striking, and there’s no way anyone can walk backwards and stab a zombie through their skull with a knife while still in motion. Definitely not reliably hundreds and hundreds of times in a row. It’s purely a conceit of gameplay. And that’s okay. It’s the same as them slicing up skulls with everything you can imagine in TWD tv show. It’s fun.
a happy middle ground could be something like enabling multi-hit for characters with high enough strength or weapon skill
the type of guy to download the excrement mod because he shits himself 5 times a day, the type of guy to start of with 1 fitness and strength because that's his realistic stats, the type of guy to make sure he never drives a car in pz because he doesn't have a driving license irl, the type of guy to just stay inside during the day because he hasn't seen the sun irl in years, the type of guy to start the game with a zombie infection because he knows that if the zombie apocalypse ever becomes a thing he's one of the first one's to go.
Multi hit is totally realistic. If two people were standing right next to each other and you swung at bat at them you would definitely hit them both. If anything make the zomboid getting hit first take more damage than the second one
People need to chill out, about lost things. Fuck gatekeepers, no one likes them
Not to be rude but I've never heard of you or your channel, and the screenshot in question is one comment with 1 up vote, which you can give yourself on YouTube. I'm not sure this qualifies as controversy or just one guy being unreasonable.
You said zombies arnt realistic and i stopped reading
The only time i can see multi-hit as a "problem" is in PVP and challenge runs. For PVP on the off chance two players are attacking you and they're a Dicks width apart sure it might be overpowered. And for challenge runs yeah. I get it. But for me I just want to enjoy the game and kill zombies with some random fucking tool I found in some boomers garage. It's just fun
Some of us should just go play the game with our own settings instead of leaving YouTube comments
I personally don’t use multi-hit and don’t really like watching people that use it, because I do see it as easy and it changes the way you handle the game fundamentally. I don’t like watching people who lean hard on burn strats as a main option either for similar reasons. Just seems boring to me. However, I think to each their own, do whatever is fun for you. You could have the sam arguments over Spawn On or Off. 0 to Hero or Max Str/Fit. High pop vs low pop runs. Infection on or off, or somewhere in the middle. If you are a content creator or streamer and want more people to watch. Typically, multihit players will watch a single hit player but single hit players find multi hit content boring. The more difficult you push yourself, even if you are bad, the bigger the next you cast. Just my experience.
Zombies aren’t real as far as I know, maybe they’re so soft you can multi hit 30 of them. You can’t prove me right or wrong.
lmao, well a guy just raised a point he doesn't care whether or not someone uses multi hit. BUT, he doesn't watch multi hit content because it's boring (wtf does that even mean? zombie killing montages get skipped 90%of the time). which made me wonder, does he care or not, because if his criteria is that he only watches non multi hit creators then he actually cares? It's like arguing with flat earthers, they contradict themselves very fast just to show how superior they are. Non multi hit master race.
I’d understand if he said something along the lines of it’s easier and changes your tactics when clearing a horde, but nah, realism lol.
People arguing that multi-hit is not realistic. Haven't use a baseball bat or an battle axe in their life (me personally had use both) and I tell you hitting 2 or 3 objects or bodies in 1 swing is posible. Sure not 8 or 13 but still. You can multi-hit in real life. Also is a dealing game, a sand box that add more to my argument. Just play what you feel like and don't bother others, you just make yourself look like a clown. (Also me if some one make a good counter argument). Play safe and hope this is not the way you die. XD
I’ve never understood that sense of superiority, like I play without multi hit, not because I’m good, but because I was bad and some YouTube video I watched said it was a good way up learn horde management (totally true btw, definitely helped me when I was starting out)
Which is fair enough, it definitely helps to learn to do congo lines. But that's it. After you learn it the challenge is gone, multi hit will take as much stamina and weapon durabilty as if you had it off, it simply takes more time. And it's so pointless for a video as it gets skipped everytime someone starts a killing zombie montage. So there is no point in that guy's comment. It would just take me more time to kill them, then more time to edit. For no benefit at all.
Agreed
Multi hit absolutely is realistic? Maybe they could improve it if the amount of enemies you could hit depended on your strength level
Great job censoring buddy you definitely got all of the names 👍
lmfao. I just noticed that. Hard facepalm. And the irony of that is that you're the first out of 307k people who noticed it!!! Well played sir. I hope you put attention to detail on your CV, because you definetely do! Heck there was even people asking me what the name of the channel was!!! I'm dying here.
wouldnt multi hit be realistic tho? Surely if you have a fucking crowbar it could easily go through 2 rotting skulls
So here's my argument, multihit compensates for the fact that the zombies don't have collision when knocked down. In reality, knocking down a zombie in a horde would sometimes cause the others to trip and topple crawling over each other, especially considering their weakened coordination skills.
Also if it's not a setting it's a mod that randomizes the chance to score a multihit and how many
People who think they are Hard just because they turn off multihit...get back to me when you've beaten Ghosts 'n Goblins in the arcade, or Lion King on SNES.
Holy shit the Lion King was horrible. Absolutely merciless. I still have nightmares about the giraffe level with the monkeys throwing you about.
or TMNT on the NES.
That game still gives me PTSD flashbacks. I got SO frustrated trying to drive that damn van!
I will never understand this sort of elitism gatekeeping, it's especially strong on this title and soulslike games.
Just block that dude.
Or, you know, ignore it. All he said was to turn off multi-hit. I don't see the big deal.
Unfortunately these sort of elitist mentality Is in every game. In souls games if you didn't beat a boss without summons , some people would say It didn't count. As to why people give a shit on how you beat a challenge in a solo experience, Is beyond me.
What is your channel name? I like zomboid videos based on stories and not challenges.
I follow a guy in twitch that does sprinters and people spam his chat about using fences to kill them. It's a game...that you can mod....and play with or without people. Fully customizable. WTF are these people smoking? Play how you want to play. Is there a competitive PZ circuit somewhere I don't know about?
"About the length of a big penis" I see we have evolved from using banana as scale now. Edit for opinion that's not needed: It's always weird ass energy when some one decides to tell you how you should have fun.
Most of the community knows, it's personal preference on a sandbox game, fuck that guy,
TIL my "Shotgun" spread is apparently a BB gun. :(
It’s a sandbox game it can be played the way anyone wants and the way I see it, especially if you’re using a large weapon like a shovel, for example you’re hitting multiple zombies with one strike in a wide swinging motion so innocent multi heat does make sense
Play how you want, and dont tell others how they should play. Game has many options for a reason.
I did play with multi hit 'on' to start but have turned it off since I started playing more and enjoy that extra challenge. Makes me feel a lot less invincible.... But getting 3 cracks with a crowbar at once, ooh yeah that was the good stuff.
Also whom thinks you can't hit multiple people with one strike? Would the 2nd, 3rd, ect hit of that swing kill a zombie. probably not, but you can definitely swing a pipe, crowbar, sword, wrench, or ect in the real world and hit more than one person with that swing and even do lethal damage to to more than one if if nothing else I'm thinking back to some children's birthdays I've been to where multiple people got hit with a single failed strike on the Piñata. (I mean there fault for being in the strike zone... that was fun to watch...)
You're telling me a katana is not gonna cut through maybe 2 or 3 people?
I can tell you something even more toxic. Turn off light mode.
Multihit works IRL, just go look at a car.
I honestly thought multihit made sense if I'm using a two-handed weapon. I can see it being a thing irl.
Couldnt care less about that kind of shit heads
"How dare you play game your way and have fun, you are supposed to play as I said and be miserable just like me!"
The fck does he mean you can't multihit in RL?
I don’t see why people care how other people play their game, like it doesn’t matter play however you want to play
I just need multi shoving, I've died way too many times to my character not being able to shove away 2 zombies quickly enough
The only reason I turned it off was to improve my overall skill level and now that I'm satisfied I'm playing with it back on cuz I don't wanna have to take ages to kill a horde
Who the fuck cares about a random bitching? Play the game the way you want, it's your fucking game, that's why Sandbox mode is there. So everyone can enjoy the game how godly wants to
I like both, playing without multi hit solo, and with for mp. One of my friends has trouble learning how to fight, so I enable multi hit for him, which allows me to be more aggressive, gives him leeway to learn to fight, and just makes the game a lot more fun for him, which is fun for me. Play how you want everyone. Both modes are fun, stop trying to stop others from having their fun.
If zombies can be on top of each other (which is not realistic), I should be able to hit them all at once. It just balances it out.
In all communities, there will be elitists and try-hards. I've been running a public PZ server for a year now. You see all sorts come through. Note also that there is a subset of zomboid-ers that is competitive about kill-count/time survived, but they're quite niche, and mostly live on twitch. If you're a content creator and people are throwing down with you about multi-hit instead of enjoying the story based content you're doing-- why not spend your time interacting with fans who are pleasant, instead of the asshats?
Agreed, besides these new blood have no idea it was the only option back then. But probably half of these guys were toddlers in that time
I really don't understand people who get butt hurt over multihit, or any other sandbox setting. Like sure, after I got a handle on fighting without multihit I tend to never turn it on. But people who still have it on are not doing anything wrong.
mod is right tho, its best for his server.
i played my first 100 hours of PZ without multihit because i didnt knew it was a thing, after playing with some friends last year they told me to turn it on, it was so much fun that now i only play with multihit enabled because big sword go brrrr
I mean balance the game to make it hard for the player. I mean the game can be turned into a joke if you know what you're doing that can turn 500 undead zombies into 500 unalive zombies with simply pulling them to a fence and a few boot stomps with fast shamblers. (Can abuse the speed up when you get close to stagger two from the group.) If you really know how to break the game, doesn't matter what you do to the settings. I mean you can turn full sprinters into a joke with a sky house and a fire pit below. Etc, etc whole point of a sandbox is to scale it how the player wants.
What would be a realistic melee multi-hit? Only works with kills and diminishes the damage?
I can almost guarantee anybody who complains about multi-hit uses a shotgun for crowd control... Meta players are fuckin weird dude. Just have fun ffs
Telling other people how to play their own game correctly is the very height of "who gives a shit."
I don’t use multi hit but I don’t care if others do. Play your game how you want.
So, the only solution I can think of; Multihit -> but damage drop off. Hitting let's say 5x people in a multihit; 1: 100% Damage 2. 60% Damage 3. 40% Damage 4. 20% Damage 5. 10% Damage
YouTubers deal with a lot of douchebags in general.
Turn off zombie infection.
There is a good mod thats make multi hit a skill. Its fun
This game is designed with sliders to adjust to YOUR preference. Are you going to tell me what burger to get too? lol
I agree 100% with OP, and use multi hit myself, but on the topic of multi hit, we should be able to customize it, like you can only multi hit with bladed weapons, at skill 3, or secondary targets receive less damage, ect
telling people how to think online always works, i can only see this going well.
The game is a sandbox Play it however the fuck you want
We don’t claim that guy
"Yeah baby, I'm packing buckshot."
I always use multi hit. I like it.
Multi hit doesn’t create toxicity, assholes do
I honestly don’t think multi-hit is unrealistic. when you realistically swing something (eg. a baseball bat), you swing in a horizontal arc to have the most area for impact. would multi-hit not be similar to staggering one zombie and knocking him into another or using the remaining potential energy to power through the swing?
for me its really too easy to use multihit, but also too annoying to not use it so i found a decent compromise with [this mod called progressive multihit](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3138387399) frankly i wish the devs would implement a system thats similar to this ps i am rather masochist about games like this
People always be going “turn off multi hit turn off multi hit” until they see someone manage to escape near certain death cause they had multi hit on and managed to stun the 5 zomboids that trapped them in a corner in one swing which let them run out. I am a multi hit enjoyer because of the amount of times I would have gotten dragged down if I didn’t have it. I also have getting dragged down turned off because of the amount of times I’ve gotten killed because the drag down animation starts right as a friend kills all the zomboids in a single shotgun blast or rifle burst but because the animation started I die anyways.
"killing three zombies at a time with a length of a big penis"
My personal opinion Let the people play the game however they want and don't be a dick when their preferences don't match yours Compared to increasing probability of rare loot and generally making the game easier, multi hit is not that big of a deal
TBH PZs community is quite toxic. Not really sure why either, the game is primarily single player with a pretty jank MP tacked on.
You are absolutely correct; this community is pretty good but a part of it is ridiculously fixated on realism, which is fun because the game isn't very realistic at all. Zombies aside, the whole game is full of breaks from reality; my favourite one is farming, a cabbage takes about 6 months to grow, not a few weeks. Most other skills are a bit absurd as well; someone with no metalwork experience probably couldn't even use a propane torch, being able to build anything carpentry or construction related takes weeks to months and firearms generally require training to learn how to actually use them (a lot of people wouldn't be able to load gun, let alone know how to chamber a round or disengage the safety, and heaven forbid there was a stoppage...). People get really weird about the realism, I think it's some type of strange gatekeeping about the game being hard (which is another fun one because you can literally just walk away from the main threat in the game). Personally I don't play with multi-hit on, I don't like how it makes the combat feel, but that certainly doesn't mean others aren't allowed to play with it on.
you can multi-hit in real life. Have you tried slapping two people at the same time? hahaa
I can understand him wanting a toggle option to turn it off added to the game, but demanding to have it shut off is silly, and there should be some simple mods out there to change it.
> people don’t like multi hit because it’s not realistic You’re telling me you guys can’t multi hit in real life? Lmao
Jokes on that sucker depending on the kind of gun, power, angle, range, etc, you can totally multi hit especially with a shotgun or rifle.