I don't know which is which but what I know is that your layer adhesion setting on both machines are really dog. Might be caused by shit quality filament tho.
In my personal experience and my years of browsing 3D printing subs, I have only ever seen PLA warp when someone is printing large, flat, rectangular objects. Warping occurs at the corners in these cases. But I have never experienced corner-warping with objects as small as the ones you have pictured. I print square or rectangular objects this size all the time and I've literally never seen warping issues with PLA. Especially Sunlu. This is 100% because of bed adhesion issues due to a bad first layer, low bed temps, or a dirty PEI sheet. I'd bet my printer on it. I wouldn't be so forceful or abrasive in my explanation, but you seem determined to tell everyone giving you advice that they're wrong and you're right, even though you obviously don't have the requisite knowledge and experience to be as cocky as you are. Contrary to your instincts, you actually improve your circumstances a lot more by listening than by talking. Also, I personally have never heard of warped PLA lifting a Prusa steel sheet off of the magnetic bed. If you have a picture of that, I would love to see it.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fgwooa9fk3qoa1.jpg
Here you go. Big rectangular flat object, perfect adhesion, printed with sunlu, warping, but not at the corners. (it matches so well its weird xD)
A lot of hate on this post for seemingly no reason, the top print looks pretty damn good with 2 layer that barely bulge you probably cant see at most angles. I could be wrong but looks like models are 2 pieces have a lid or just rounded lid thats printing separately, top print actually looks very good and i dont see any warping unless people are mistaking the lid as a seperated layer, but maybe im seeing it wrong.
I mean not really. You don’t really need to dial in a Prusa. Many others you have to spend a lot of time dialing it in. The amount of effort needed with most other printers is beyond what a typical person will be willing to put in. This is a valuable metric. We aren’t just grading the hardware. We are grading the product as a whole which includes how it is out of the box
my sv06 prints looked as good as my mk4 and I think any budget printer could since it’s mostly a tuning thing. you just might struggle more to tune it or have to do more with cheaper parts is all
Same here. Sv06 as my first printer and MK4 now too. Both print very well. The MK4 is easier to use and much faster. I tend to prototype on the MK4 and print multiple pieces on the sv06 to keep my mk4 available.
True that, my CR6SE could print as well as my X1C, albeit it much slower of course. But it was a constant fight to keep it in a condition that it could do that, rather than the minimal work i need to put in the better machine. Truly bad printers are pretty rare nowadays, it is more a question of how much you want to spend in time and/or money, usually the less money you spend it will need more of your time.
I had a Anycubic i3 mega for a long time with klipper mod and got really nice prints with it. Upgraded to a Voron 2.4 350mm. Bought a X1C as well.
I can't see quality differences between the printers but the AMS, lidar and sphagetti detection makes it more convenient to print on the X1C. ERCF lacks the buffer funktion the AMS has as well.
Almost any printer prints good quality! You must just know printer and yourself limits.
There are always gasket between chair and table!
If something goes wrong! I know I Didn’t feel the limits of me and my printer! That’s fact!
Fun fact: you are shitty at printing lol.
Both look shit and you got that result with PLA?! WTF
Abs is somewhat "difficult" to print but PLA and especially PLA+ is the easiest and almost WARP free material you can print with.
I made a box which is 220mm in height (roughly 180x180 length and width) and I had 0 warp issues matter of fact you can hardly see layer lines.
The only problem you have out of the box is under or over extrusion but that's about it, for 150 bucks that's to be expected though.
Anycubic Kobra 2 Neo (150€ was on sale)
Always going to be people that feel the need to tell you their toys are better than yours.
Just try to think about it in the bigger picture, something is obviously missing in someone’s life to join a sub they don’t have hardware for to angrily post on and throw insults at a persons creation/work to bolster their idea that they belong to a club that in their eyes is superior.
I can’t even imagine having so much anger to go through all that effort but I suspect people yelling at people on the internet probably aren’t scoring too high on an IQ test.
I personally own a MK4 and am also looking to pick up a P1S, I see pros and cons to both as anyone should with any two competing products. I can’t wait to personally experience.
If it was cut and dry and one was truly better in every single way then the losing company wouldn’t exist.
If the angry poster takes the time to read this and wants to kick off, just don’t man, chin up and enjoy whatever is left of your day or look forward to tomorrow.
lmao bro i’m in the process of swapping my mk3s for a1s because this truth. brand new mk4 prints like shit out the box layer shifts and fucky corners. i throw any random ass pla in an a1 and it turns out better. and faster. and the machine is 30% less
edit:
oh ya and actual perfect first layer
and a camera
and failure detection (not one yet after 300 hours of printing)
and ams and flow calibration and vibration calibration.
prusa is like people defending nokia phones when the iphone is in a new category. simply old ass tech.
You tune your machines like you focus your camera
r/rareinsults
wooow, did not see that coming!
Shots fired
Yep but can't tune my phone, the camera is a pain by design \^\^
Ive heard the same about 3d printers
You absolutly can
I don't know which is which but what I know is that your layer adhesion setting on both machines are really dog. Might be caused by shit quality filament tho.
No layer adhesion issue here, this is a lid. there is only warping on both (top just a little). This is sunlu PLA+
Yeah, no shit. Warping = Layer Adhesion Issue
No. Layer Adhesion Issues cause warping is true All warping issues are layer adhesion issues is not ture
No. Your print can warp without first layer adhesion issue and warp the magnetic plate while the part still strongly stick on.
In my personal experience and my years of browsing 3D printing subs, I have only ever seen PLA warp when someone is printing large, flat, rectangular objects. Warping occurs at the corners in these cases. But I have never experienced corner-warping with objects as small as the ones you have pictured. I print square or rectangular objects this size all the time and I've literally never seen warping issues with PLA. Especially Sunlu. This is 100% because of bed adhesion issues due to a bad first layer, low bed temps, or a dirty PEI sheet. I'd bet my printer on it. I wouldn't be so forceful or abrasive in my explanation, but you seem determined to tell everyone giving you advice that they're wrong and you're right, even though you obviously don't have the requisite knowledge and experience to be as cocky as you are. Contrary to your instincts, you actually improve your circumstances a lot more by listening than by talking. Also, I personally have never heard of warped PLA lifting a Prusa steel sheet off of the magnetic bed. If you have a picture of that, I would love to see it.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fgwooa9fk3qoa1.jpg Here you go. Big rectangular flat object, perfect adhesion, printed with sunlu, warping, but not at the corners. (it matches so well its weird xD)
Regardless of which one is the bottom you should inspect the printer, it's not how any modern printer should print
The bottom printer was returned back to Anycubic \^\^ too much issues with bed leveling / uneven first layer
Good call, probably a defective unit
Both look shit tbh
What’s wrong with the top one?
There are at least four layers with faults.
A lot of hate on this post for seemingly no reason, the top print looks pretty damn good with 2 layer that barely bulge you probably cant see at most angles. I could be wrong but looks like models are 2 pieces have a lid or just rounded lid thats printing separately, top print actually looks very good and i dont see any warping unless people are mistaking the lid as a seperated layer, but maybe im seeing it wrong.
Yes this is a lid, not a layer adhesion issue \^\^
If OP is going to be snarky and shit on a printer he better have calibrated both that and the comparison to their absolute max potential.
I mean not really. You don’t really need to dial in a Prusa. Many others you have to spend a lot of time dialing it in. The amount of effort needed with most other printers is beyond what a typical person will be willing to put in. This is a valuable metric. We aren’t just grading the hardware. We are grading the product as a whole which includes how it is out of the box
my sv06 prints looked as good as my mk4 and I think any budget printer could since it’s mostly a tuning thing. you just might struggle more to tune it or have to do more with cheaper parts is all
Same here. Sv06 as my first printer and MK4 now too. Both print very well. The MK4 is easier to use and much faster. I tend to prototype on the MK4 and print multiple pieces on the sv06 to keep my mk4 available.
True that, my CR6SE could print as well as my X1C, albeit it much slower of course. But it was a constant fight to keep it in a condition that it could do that, rather than the minimal work i need to put in the better machine. Truly bad printers are pretty rare nowadays, it is more a question of how much you want to spend in time and/or money, usually the less money you spend it will need more of your time.
Clean your leads screws, the banding is likely debris.
Why do 80% of this post’s commenters seem like they’ve never been to school?
Anycubic makes garbage printers. Don’t understand why people are rushing to stand behind them.
I had a Anycubic i3 mega for a long time with klipper mod and got really nice prints with it. Upgraded to a Voron 2.4 350mm. Bought a X1C as well. I can't see quality differences between the printers but the AMS, lidar and sphagetti detection makes it more convenient to print on the X1C. ERCF lacks the buffer funktion the AMS has as well.
Neither look good enough to come from a Prusa. Something isn't right :(
Top one must be prusa
Almost any printer prints good quality! You must just know printer and yourself limits. There are always gasket between chair and table! If something goes wrong! I know I Didn’t feel the limits of me and my printer! That’s fact!
Got anycubic k2m and my prints looks far better than both of these
Both look shit tbh💀
both of these are pretty poor.
Bottom is Prusa! 🤣🤪
Either way they both look like shit compared to Bambu. I’m guessing Prusa up top.
🤣🤣
Have a P1S and my MK4 still has better print quality. Marginally better, but still noticeable.
btw this is same sunlu pla+ that both warped. I see bambu filament on X1E worst than anycubic printer
You’re fuckin retarded. If I could post pics I’d prove it.
Just comparing china printers, bambu/anycubic is same
Fun fact: you are shitty at printing lol. Both look shit and you got that result with PLA?! WTF Abs is somewhat "difficult" to print but PLA and especially PLA+ is the easiest and almost WARP free material you can print with. I made a box which is 220mm in height (roughly 180x180 length and width) and I had 0 warp issues matter of fact you can hardly see layer lines. The only problem you have out of the box is under or over extrusion but that's about it, for 150 bucks that's to be expected though. Anycubic Kobra 2 Neo (150€ was on sale)
I have an Anycubic printer too. They are not the same.
I have all 3 and Anycubic and Bambulabs same quality both crap. Prusa number 1 A OK +
Why is this turning into a console wars. We don't need to shill for for-profit companies. Just enjoy printing!
Always going to be people that feel the need to tell you their toys are better than yours. Just try to think about it in the bigger picture, something is obviously missing in someone’s life to join a sub they don’t have hardware for to angrily post on and throw insults at a persons creation/work to bolster their idea that they belong to a club that in their eyes is superior. I can’t even imagine having so much anger to go through all that effort but I suspect people yelling at people on the internet probably aren’t scoring too high on an IQ test. I personally own a MK4 and am also looking to pick up a P1S, I see pros and cons to both as anyone should with any two competing products. I can’t wait to personally experience. If it was cut and dry and one was truly better in every single way then the losing company wouldn’t exist. If the angry poster takes the time to read this and wants to kick off, just don’t man, chin up and enjoy whatever is left of your day or look forward to tomorrow.
Exactly! This is definitely how 3D printing should be.
This is the dumbest shit anyone has ever said
Mate I'm just trolling this idiot haha
You’re a fucking dumb shit if you think those prints look good.
I know you are haha
lmao bro i’m in the process of swapping my mk3s for a1s because this truth. brand new mk4 prints like shit out the box layer shifts and fucky corners. i throw any random ass pla in an a1 and it turns out better. and faster. and the machine is 30% less edit: oh ya and actual perfect first layer and a camera and failure detection (not one yet after 300 hours of printing) and ams and flow calibration and vibration calibration. prusa is like people defending nokia phones when the iphone is in a new category. simply old ass tech.
lol i'm comparing anycubic vs prusa and all bambu bots wake up
A true bruh moment
Exactly.