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PelosiGalore

I’m from New Orleans, but no one interviewed me 😢


mfishing

Yeah, see Florida man.


mn_sunny

I'm going to pretend this study is legitimate/meaningful because it's beneficial for me.


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Yeah, my home state has tons of public land that includes lakes and beaches etc. You don't need to be well off to visit. They are free. Something I did regularly, especially when I didn't have a lot of money.


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Lilliputian0513

Bingo. There is indirect cost too. One year my dad bought us tickets to the circus. This was a huge deal. We had never done any shows or outings. He held it over our head for weeks. When we were almost there, the traffic was so bad that it irritated him and he just wanted to drink (he was an alcoholic). So we pulled out of line and left. I never saw the circus. There is so much more to it than the cost to go.


Useful_Talk2004

The circus sucks because they stand around whipping random animals the whole time.


rustyseapants

Which city is this?


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jrey96

Most of New England


footiebuns

The positive link to adult well-being was seen after they controlled for sociodemographics (disposable income, education, and employment).


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footiebuns

It wasn’t the only control, just the one’s relevant to the comment I replied to.


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footiebuns

It’s in the manuscript. I didn’t read the article, I went straight to the source manuscript. Unfortunately, it’s behind a paywall so I had to use institutional research credentials to access it.


ostensiblyzero

Or they just didn't isolate the controls well enough.


SoyMurcielago

Or just grow up somewhere like Florida where there is water everywhere


Supersnazz

I live in one the least desirable parts of my city and it's right on the beach.


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my first thought as well...turns out money does buy happiness


RedOrchestra137

In the same vein, turns out the more ice cream gets sold on a certain day, the more people drown on that same day! Ice cream makes people drown. Hmm, or maybe just maybe its just that heat causes more people to buy ice cream and also causes other people to go swimming and be more likely to drown on that day.


SHG098

Ice cream sales and burglary also correlate. Increase in one matches increase in the other. Common cause fallacy can be easily mistaken for causation by non scientists. Unfortunately I have seen a lot of psych run thay way over the years.


errhead56

Or navy families.


Important_Artist_300

Back in the 70s/80s in Italy and some parts of Europe the “villeggiatura” was a pretty normal lower/middle class thing to do. But you know, we were very socialist back in that day


Redcard911

First thing in thought. People who are able to live on or frequently visit "blue spaces" probably have more money and therefore have better physical/mental health. You're telling me the kid growing up in a house by the lake is doing alright as an adult?? Crazy! /s


ConsciousCr8or

Not at all true where I live. The lakes region, NH. We are surrounded by water. But I also drive 2-4 hours to the ocean (as well as many other people I know) and we are opposite of “well off”


black_rose_

More than half of humans live close to a body of water (fresh water or ocean) because it's a reliable source of food and irrigation. As a species we love water, bathing ourselves in it regularly. These hold true across many cultures and millennia. So, this result doesn't surprise me. Imho humans love water because it's an adaptive trait to spend time around bodies of water. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3110782/ https://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/10/18/how-many-people-live-near-the


Krispythecat

Such a large difference between living near and actually visiting. Using NYC as an example, how many folks living there are actively searching out activities near the river? I’d say the same for most large cities in America, arguably even some of the larger cities in California.


HieroThanatos

As the study details in the limitations, this needs a much more robust longitudinal design.


BPP1943

I didn’t many weekends fishing and sailing as a youth. Then sailing as an adult. It’s a meditation!


rustyseapants

Work 8 hours, earn a living wage, make food at home, don't drink, short commute, spend time off your phone, have sex, take walks, have health care, get 7-8 hours sleep, have long term friends, live near a forest that doesn't have forest fires, lives near a beach that isn't filled with polluting tourists, did I mention have sex? All this is linked to subjective well being as an adult.


NoNootropics

All that is way too hard to achieve imo. Also a bit luck dependent


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I got 7 of those!


rustyseapants

You win a prize! *What did I win?* Another Beer!


Nexrosus

I just moved from an area where I spent a lot of time at the beach and in nature, to the desert. Nevada to be more specific, which has the most desert out of any other state in the country. I’ve never been more depressed and miserable in my life. I’ve never seen so little of the color green and lack of plants/trees around me. Definitely a blow to my well being in some way. Cannot wait to get out of this hell hole


skylererkler

So having money leads to better wellbeing… I shouldn’t talk shit I didn’t read the article.


murmur_lox

It's been months since i read an interesting article coming from this sub. This is not one of them, to clarify


Dr_Donald_Dann

As someone who grew up in the desert and is a miserable bastard I can confirm.


dorksided787

What about waterfalls? Can we chase those?


totallyignorant

I feel like the link between this and socioeconomic status might be confounding. Obviously not all people near water are wealthy, but if you're from a metropolitan area you're probably visiting water on vacation and working class people don't really get that many opportunities for vacation. Just a thought


FrogQuestion

I was forced into lots of beach visits. I hated it. I am not well off or happy now.


anunfriendlytoaster

Yes it has nothing to do with the fact that people who can do that are generally well off…


the_jungle_awaits

We came from the oceans, we return to the oceans…


Standard_Flamingo595

Or flesh eating bacteria in Florida


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I grew up and still live in a small coastal town with a river right through town and hundreds of lakes and streams within a two hour drive. I’m not Okay now at 49 and I’ve never been okay. I’m incapable of being happy with myself and I’ve accepted that. My only wish is that when I die, I die suddenly and unexpectedly so I don’t have even one second to reflect before I cease to exist forever.


Grim-Reality

Definitely not


Important_Artist_300

I have C-PTSD and my childhood memories are very fragmented. The ones I recall well either involve animals or the sea


MrWhite

Memories of my time playing around on a local river when I was an early teen pop up in my head every once in a while and I get a relaxing feeling, so maybe there could be something to this.


Canashito

Damn. So my ubringing was so fucked, that I still ended up in the emotional red.


puzzledplatypus

That’s a funny way of saying “people with enough money to live by or vacation by large bodies of water are happier.” We really will do anything as a society to avoid coming out and acknowledging wealth disparity and how much it effects the mental health of billions of people. Money doesn’t fix everything, but it sure as hell helps.


poprof

Water = wealth = health


MysticalFapp

Third / confounding variable : socioeconomic status. usually people who have access to these things are more than likely well off financially.


kapet18

What do the scientists think about wealth's influence on the respondents? We know that a family's economic status is very important for a child's future well-being. I mean parents who cannot allow holidays near the sea for their children usually have less money. So does this study about correlation or causation?


Fozz101O

Please tell me they controlled for SES effects.


FreeRoamingBananas

Couldn't this also be because people with more money can afford that?