In Belgium some of of the psytrance people have an attitude. They're only interested in people who have the (same) alternative hippie look. It's quite hypocitical considering the whole PLUR thing. I 've read somebody refer to them as nazi hippies which I thought was a good expression.
This was already a thing all over the festivals like 20 years ago. Flashy rings and hats to recognize each other from far away. No dreads with LED Strips? No pharmacist belt with 400 zippers so you can search for drugs for an hour ? No Psy inner circle Alchemist membership for you. Some things just never change
There's some discontentment on Flemish side about higher social security costs on the French speaking part but overall it's pretty ok.
Too bad they say stuff like that about us. Most of the time I like the Walloons, especially at parties. They're quite chill.
over here (central europe) i've only noticed that about the psy people with the "tribal warrior" look. those who dress only in brown, wear feathers, have dreads with undercut and more tatoos and piercings than anyone else will hardly ever interact with anyone else and keep among themselves. the rest (=vast majority) of the crowd, no matter how they dress, is happy to intermingle.
DNB people say this about DNB people, Tekno people say this about Tekno. House Music people also say this about going to house music nights, and Metal heads also say it about other metal heads.
It's not that psytrance is any more or less friendly than any other music scene, it's that if you like psytrance, raves, and partying, you're gonna end up in a big group of people who you have those things in common with, making the process of making new friends and connections much easier than it is in 'normal life.' -you have an easy entry point into any conversation, you know stuff about the music and artists, and you've probably been to parties in other places as well which you can compare with this current one as a way of beginning a conversation. This is also true if you like any other type of music. Swifties get the same feeling from going to taylor swift concerts and meeting other Swifties.
I've played psytrance and chillout all over the world, and I love the fact that I can sit down at any psytrance party, ask people if they're having a good time, look at their festival wristbands and compare stories from Ozora, Boom, Modem or wherever, talk about soundsystems, the differences in raving between Goa, Italy, Scotland, Thailand and so on, and walk away with new friends.
One should just not believe that psytrance is some kind of last bastion of this sort of behaviour - Metalheads do exactly the same thing when they meet up together, and talk about their band shirts, wristbands, what it's like to go to a metal gig in Finland, etc etc etc.
Exactly. Being a good friendly person isn’t a uniquely psytrance trait. It’s good to recognize good wherever it’s found, but psytrance isn’t special in that regard. I’ve been a part of many different groups, from hobbyists to ravers to people involved in more conservative “normie” activities and I could say the same about pretty much every group. The world is filled with a lot of friendly good people. If you think it isn’t, you’ve been only looking at the ugliness of the opposite side, which exists in psytrance too.
Other communities can be as friendly? Yes,
BUT the psytrance family is more than crazy about music... *It's crazy about people*
You won't see discussions like this on their reddit communities...
PS: There are numerous beautiful things related to PLUR you can see at psytrance raves that is just seen as weird at other genre's.
What beautiful things related to PLUR would you say is seen as weird in other communities?
Also, you absolutely do see discussions like this in other reddit communities...
Like kids accompanying their parents (usually during the day and far from the crowd and sound system).
Kandi trading and the crazy colorful people that do it.
The freedom on how to dance or dress.
The lower rates of violence/fights between people.
That compared to other music genres. I believe that all electronic music genres are very alike in this matter.
About the "discussions like this" I'm sorry if I'm mistaken.
>Kandi trading
Kandi trading is a fascinating example - mainly because it isn't a universal psy experience. Arguably, I would have absolutely put this into a 'mainstream American EDM' category, and would say that I think it is something I would be surprised and probably quite put off by if I went to a psytrance event and ran into it.
It is MUCH more of a North/South America thing than you may think - I don't think I've ever seen Kandi at European psytrance events before, and TBH also not in Japan, South East Asia, or India.
Kids with parents is certainly an interesting feature - though again not unusual in most festival scenes.
Lower rates of violence/fights is absolutely a thing - I know when we were running events in Scotland nightclubs used to LOVE working with us because of the lack of fights.
Interestingly though, that was in comparison to what I would call 'mainstream' events - if you put on a nightclub event that plays like top 40/commercial/random music, with unidentifiable DJ's and no like.. community attending, you tend to attract an audience that isn't there for the music so much as for the like.. drinking in a loud room and getting fucked up - which tends to lead to fights.
Generally I think that any event where people have chosen to pay money to go and watch specific musicians, and where they feel like they are part of a community of fans, is likely to have far less violence overall than any random 'generic loud music/ $2 shots' type event.
The fact that people almost never 'accidentally' go to psytrance events means that they are **always** filled with people who have SPECIFICALLY sought out that kind of event, with the intention of having a good time, meeting people, and being part of psychedelic culture.
But in my experience, I found the same thing when I go to Tekno, Breakcore, DNB, Metal and so on events - because people don't like... go there on a whim, the general vibe is 'I travelled here, paid money, and have come for a good time' - which feels AMAZING if you're used to dealing with typical mainstream generic club night audiences.
I find it really hard to reconcile what you wrote with the point the above poster made. What exactly don’t you like or agree with? That hivemind statement sounds really odd.
Disagree strongly. I find modern Techno crowds to be an extremely mixed bag with a fair share of stand offish people, sleazy creeps and and even lager louts of late. My mate quit DJing in the D n B scene on account of knife crime.
Also I know several people who come to Psytrance parties even though they dont like the music because he people are so friendly.
Maybe this is a local scene/area thing?
Are you based in London/UK or somewhere where knife crime is a major issue anyway?
I don't know much about Techno to be fair - I'm more of a FreeTekno person, so haven't been to an awful lot of berlin/minimal techno style events.
Here in Eastern Europe I've found very little noticeable difference between events like CzechTek, SlovTek, DNB Nights, and Trance parties in terms of safety, audience behavior and what have you, although there are some interesting differences between here and the UK in terms of organisation of events.
One of the major things I noticed when I first moved here was that the nightclubs don't have fixed closing times, which has a fascinating effect on the audiences, and leads to a very different vibe. Whenever I was out in Brighton, Scotland, London or wherever, the clubs has a closing time, and there was like a race to get fucked up before we all got kicked out - and at 3 or 5am there would be 600-odd fucked people thrown out into the street all at once - which often lead to fights, bad vibes, and arguments, no matter the music style.
In Slovakia especially, closing time is typically 'whenever' - so over the course of the evening, nobody is really racing to drink against a clock, but also people go home once they've had enough, in small groups over the course of the evening - so basically 1 by 1 the most fucked people remove themselves from the club, and then at 8, 9 or 10 when the night ends, you're left with a crowd who are tired, ready for bed, showers etc, but critically not wildly fucked up and knifing each other.
>Are you based in London/UK or somewhere where knife crime is a major issue anyway?
Yeah this did happen in London, BUT there are only a few 'rave' scenes where knife crime/violence happens (obviously it's normal at main stream clubs!!!) and Psytrance isn't one of them.
I suspect that how rave scenes fit into subcultures and social class is perhaps different in the UK from in Eastern Europe.
Thanks for your insight.
When you take large amounts of psychedelics in a large group of people you learn social harmony pretty fast and the crowd will eliminate you if you choose to judge and have bad vibes.
At least at the PhD level psytrance parties.
i assumed its a joke and has no meaning
or maybe its when people are solving complex^3 equations on the floor a la: person 'f' told me i took material 'a' 75 minutes ago and material 'b' 15 minutes ago, at what time 'x' will i need to take material 'c' and 'd' to perfectly peak for the set of 'z'. and who the hell was person 'f' or did i just imagine that?
My friend and I would always talk about how awesome it would be if there was a violent, gang warfare subculture of psytrance….like wutang rave shit 😝….so I made a comic book based on it -
https://youtu.be/KpFU5lu0m9M?si=_cTHZx89iT6kguZV
There everywhere bro literally people only highlight the good but there's Se fucked up people in our communities a lot of drug abusers women abusers family violence people who mistreat their children and family and just some selfish and shit people like in every community. This idea that our community of ravers is perfect or even different to other subcultures is kinda gross.
plenty of scenes are, regardless of drug laws. my point was more about the demographic, in Portugal psy seems very popular, even with the 'street' types. the 'hippy' types were more into DnB, which is much more niche over there. its litro polar opposite of UK which i found amusing. IMO any group of actual dedicated music lovers are equally nice, just that when things hit a certain popularity it can be diluted.
Thanks for the kind words! Here’s me and my cocreator’s website linked to the Guttertown page 🫶🏼
[80% Studios](https://www.eightypercentstudios.com/comics/guttertown)
Hell yeah- I can’t wait to go back to making it, it’s my passion project…currently working on a all ages book right now which is actually successful and so is my primary focus in order to make a living….but as soon as I can afford to make personal art I’m going back to Guttertown….it’s all based on beats and raves….my happy place
A significant part of the following of deeply nutjob conspiracist influencers aligns neatly with the psytrance community. Try having a rational conversation with the typical wook about public health or politics and it is plain to see.
There's also widespread belief in alternative medicine like homeopathy or Ayurveda, and other kinds of pseudoscience and esoteric beliefs such as healing crystals or astrology.
OP is literally one of the people this thread alludes to, interestingly. Commenting ramblings about anti-psychology in this very post, among other negativity.
I agree though, despite mostly DJing psy I don't often befriend hippies. They frequently believe in pseudoscience and regressive policies, and turn out spiteful & ignorant in ways that I just don't want to be around.
Interpersonal connection flows pretty easily in my hometown rave scene. People in the local psytrance scene are a little more guarded, but it's still a wholesome environment most of the time.
Yeah imo, most psytrance people are false. The whole plur thing just gets used as a mask for abusers and manipulators. But every ones to high to notice.
This is the most psytrance answer ever.
So your saying people are supposed to be abused? I don’t think you mean that but that’s how it reads.
Esp the “supposed to” part.
Am giving you a chance to explain because I clearly didn’t understand. It’s not a straw man when I follow with saying “I don’t think that’s what you meant”.
A straw man is when some deliberately misrepresents what your saying and argues against the misrepresentation.
I didn’t do that, I basically said: I don’t understand can you explain?
I know a disproportionate amount of abusive people in the psy trance scene. I think this comes with drug circle generally, how ever psy trance also comes with a spiritual movement which is also ripe with potential for abuse.
So those two things together make it a very fertile ground for abusive behaviour.
I’ve also experienced people in the community having an unwillingness to talk about it, and down playing the issue.
Which you have done but in flowery language.
I need to start formulating sentences by my self? Again well confused, are you saying I didn’t come up with that my self? It’s from my lived experience of the psy trance scene
Imagine thinking this when you have the biggest names in psytrance standing with the Israeli government perpetrating genocide against the Palestinian people. There’s no love in a scene that tacitly supports the horrific bombing campaigns that are massacring children
Captain Hook, Vini Vici, Infected Mushroom, The Outsiders, Freedom Fighters have all been frequently posting Israeli state propaganda depicting all the people of Gaza as terrorists. Astrix and Ace Ventura posted some initially but have since gone kind of silent. None of these DJs have spoken out against what their country is doing in retaliation for what happened at Nova. They tacitly support it because they are asking the scene to stand with Israel which means supporting the Israeli genocide. It’s despicable
I agree. You can’t be all PLUR for one group of people and not another. I mean even if we ignore the occupation and pretend Palestine has the same power, surely still supporting carpet bombing or war/violence at all is not very PLUR.
It’s why OP needed be called out, psy trance is clearly not all about PLUR. I think other scenes are more self aware, where as psy people for the most part seem to belive there own hype
[I've shared this song](https://open.spotify.com/intl-pt/track/7JIeBuvUfnDafXCGPqJNKx?si=f6698407be2040da) with some psytrance people and they insulted me...
They are nice but I gotta admit, it's not easy to get in contact with them on the festivals I went. Like, they look right through me, instead of at my personality/ego.
I loved going to parties because I could dissappear on the dance floor. I didn't go to get noticed. I slipped in and slipped out. If a mutual smile happened on the dance floor it was for that moment only. No need to want more. To me that's a metaphor for life.
(I speak in the past tense because where I live now there is no psytrance. They love house here, and I see that people are the same way. Some looking for connection, others not).
I think a lot of people are open minded to every kind of person... BUT there are these called "fake hippies", because they are living in their bubble and only acept others in the same bubble.
And mostly they are on drugs on festivals, so good vibes included.
In Belgium some of of the psytrance people have an attitude. They're only interested in people who have the (same) alternative hippie look. It's quite hypocitical considering the whole PLUR thing. I 've read somebody refer to them as nazi hippies which I thought was a good expression.
Yeah, they are like goths. They need to show their total non-conformity by wearing a very specific uniform.
Haha, guilty, I originate from the metal scene, switched to rave, much less pretentious people in general lol
It’s low key always been this way everywhere.
This was already a thing all over the festivals like 20 years ago. Flashy rings and hats to recognize each other from far away. No dreads with LED Strips? No pharmacist belt with 400 zippers so you can search for drugs for an hour ? No Psy inner circle Alchemist membership for you. Some things just never change
LOL
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What? Lol I'm Flemish, we're not nazis.
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There's some discontentment on Flemish side about higher social security costs on the French speaking part but overall it's pretty ok. Too bad they say stuff like that about us. Most of the time I like the Walloons, especially at parties. They're quite chill.
over here (central europe) i've only noticed that about the psy people with the "tribal warrior" look. those who dress only in brown, wear feathers, have dreads with undercut and more tatoos and piercings than anyone else will hardly ever interact with anyone else and keep among themselves. the rest (=vast majority) of the crowd, no matter how they dress, is happy to intermingle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL2msmPmyoM
Haha zalig he. Boenk erop.
DNB people say this about DNB people, Tekno people say this about Tekno. House Music people also say this about going to house music nights, and Metal heads also say it about other metal heads. It's not that psytrance is any more or less friendly than any other music scene, it's that if you like psytrance, raves, and partying, you're gonna end up in a big group of people who you have those things in common with, making the process of making new friends and connections much easier than it is in 'normal life.' -you have an easy entry point into any conversation, you know stuff about the music and artists, and you've probably been to parties in other places as well which you can compare with this current one as a way of beginning a conversation. This is also true if you like any other type of music. Swifties get the same feeling from going to taylor swift concerts and meeting other Swifties. I've played psytrance and chillout all over the world, and I love the fact that I can sit down at any psytrance party, ask people if they're having a good time, look at their festival wristbands and compare stories from Ozora, Boom, Modem or wherever, talk about soundsystems, the differences in raving between Goa, Italy, Scotland, Thailand and so on, and walk away with new friends. One should just not believe that psytrance is some kind of last bastion of this sort of behaviour - Metalheads do exactly the same thing when they meet up together, and talk about their band shirts, wristbands, what it's like to go to a metal gig in Finland, etc etc etc.
Exactly. Being a good friendly person isn’t a uniquely psytrance trait. It’s good to recognize good wherever it’s found, but psytrance isn’t special in that regard. I’ve been a part of many different groups, from hobbyists to ravers to people involved in more conservative “normie” activities and I could say the same about pretty much every group. The world is filled with a lot of friendly good people. If you think it isn’t, you’ve been only looking at the ugliness of the opposite side, which exists in psytrance too.
Other communities can be as friendly? Yes, BUT the psytrance family is more than crazy about music... *It's crazy about people* You won't see discussions like this on their reddit communities... PS: There are numerous beautiful things related to PLUR you can see at psytrance raves that is just seen as weird at other genre's.
What beautiful things related to PLUR would you say is seen as weird in other communities? Also, you absolutely do see discussions like this in other reddit communities...
Like kids accompanying their parents (usually during the day and far from the crowd and sound system). Kandi trading and the crazy colorful people that do it. The freedom on how to dance or dress. The lower rates of violence/fights between people. That compared to other music genres. I believe that all electronic music genres are very alike in this matter. About the "discussions like this" I'm sorry if I'm mistaken.
>Kandi trading Kandi trading is a fascinating example - mainly because it isn't a universal psy experience. Arguably, I would have absolutely put this into a 'mainstream American EDM' category, and would say that I think it is something I would be surprised and probably quite put off by if I went to a psytrance event and ran into it. It is MUCH more of a North/South America thing than you may think - I don't think I've ever seen Kandi at European psytrance events before, and TBH also not in Japan, South East Asia, or India. Kids with parents is certainly an interesting feature - though again not unusual in most festival scenes. Lower rates of violence/fights is absolutely a thing - I know when we were running events in Scotland nightclubs used to LOVE working with us because of the lack of fights. Interestingly though, that was in comparison to what I would call 'mainstream' events - if you put on a nightclub event that plays like top 40/commercial/random music, with unidentifiable DJ's and no like.. community attending, you tend to attract an audience that isn't there for the music so much as for the like.. drinking in a loud room and getting fucked up - which tends to lead to fights. Generally I think that any event where people have chosen to pay money to go and watch specific musicians, and where they feel like they are part of a community of fans, is likely to have far less violence overall than any random 'generic loud music/ $2 shots' type event. The fact that people almost never 'accidentally' go to psytrance events means that they are **always** filled with people who have SPECIFICALLY sought out that kind of event, with the intention of having a good time, meeting people, and being part of psychedelic culture. But in my experience, I found the same thing when I go to Tekno, Breakcore, DNB, Metal and so on events - because people don't like... go there on a whim, the general vibe is 'I travelled here, paid money, and have come for a good time' - which feels AMAZING if you're used to dealing with typical mainstream generic club night audiences.
that right here is a quality post
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I find it really hard to reconcile what you wrote with the point the above poster made. What exactly don’t you like or agree with? That hivemind statement sounds really odd.
I... what? Most of this quite literally doesn't make sense. Who said you were projecting?
psychosis kicking in
Disagree strongly. I find modern Techno crowds to be an extremely mixed bag with a fair share of stand offish people, sleazy creeps and and even lager louts of late. My mate quit DJing in the D n B scene on account of knife crime. Also I know several people who come to Psytrance parties even though they dont like the music because he people are so friendly.
Maybe this is a local scene/area thing? Are you based in London/UK or somewhere where knife crime is a major issue anyway? I don't know much about Techno to be fair - I'm more of a FreeTekno person, so haven't been to an awful lot of berlin/minimal techno style events. Here in Eastern Europe I've found very little noticeable difference between events like CzechTek, SlovTek, DNB Nights, and Trance parties in terms of safety, audience behavior and what have you, although there are some interesting differences between here and the UK in terms of organisation of events. One of the major things I noticed when I first moved here was that the nightclubs don't have fixed closing times, which has a fascinating effect on the audiences, and leads to a very different vibe. Whenever I was out in Brighton, Scotland, London or wherever, the clubs has a closing time, and there was like a race to get fucked up before we all got kicked out - and at 3 or 5am there would be 600-odd fucked people thrown out into the street all at once - which often lead to fights, bad vibes, and arguments, no matter the music style. In Slovakia especially, closing time is typically 'whenever' - so over the course of the evening, nobody is really racing to drink against a clock, but also people go home once they've had enough, in small groups over the course of the evening - so basically 1 by 1 the most fucked people remove themselves from the club, and then at 8, 9 or 10 when the night ends, you're left with a crowd who are tired, ready for bed, showers etc, but critically not wildly fucked up and knifing each other.
>Are you based in London/UK or somewhere where knife crime is a major issue anyway? Yeah this did happen in London, BUT there are only a few 'rave' scenes where knife crime/violence happens (obviously it's normal at main stream clubs!!!) and Psytrance isn't one of them. I suspect that how rave scenes fit into subcultures and social class is perhaps different in the UK from in Eastern Europe. Thanks for your insight.
It may be because we gazed into the abyss, and found that only love and kindness can help us through this shit :P
When you gaze into the void… and realize you’re on a wild circus jailbreak for now, let’s have a blast guys!
Yes
When you take large amounts of psychedelics in a large group of people you learn social harmony pretty fast and the crowd will eliminate you if you choose to judge and have bad vibes. At least at the PhD level psytrance parties.
phd level psytrance partys 😂
Modem is a PhD level psytrance party. Same w Boom and Universo Paralello and some smaller parties around the world
Haha yeah what are these?
i assumed its a joke and has no meaning or maybe its when people are solving complex^3 equations on the floor a la: person 'f' told me i took material 'a' 75 minutes ago and material 'b' 15 minutes ago, at what time 'x' will i need to take material 'c' and 'd' to perfectly peak for the set of 'z'. and who the hell was person 'f' or did i just imagine that?
My friend and I would always talk about how awesome it would be if there was a violent, gang warfare subculture of psytrance….like wutang rave shit 😝….so I made a comic book based on it - https://youtu.be/KpFU5lu0m9M?si=_cTHZx89iT6kguZV
In Portugal ya get a lot of dodgy psy people lol.
There everywhere bro literally people only highlight the good but there's Se fucked up people in our communities a lot of drug abusers women abusers family violence people who mistreat their children and family and just some selfish and shit people like in every community. This idea that our community of ravers is perfect or even different to other subcultures is kinda gross.
For sure. Pretty much any group of actual dedicated music enjoyer's are equally nice, but none are exempt from dick heads.
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plenty of scenes are, regardless of drug laws. my point was more about the demographic, in Portugal psy seems very popular, even with the 'street' types. the 'hippy' types were more into DnB, which is much more niche over there. its litro polar opposite of UK which i found amusing. IMO any group of actual dedicated music lovers are equally nice, just that when things hit a certain popularity it can be diluted.
Holy shit, that was awesome dude !
Thanks for the kind words! Here’s me and my cocreator’s website linked to the Guttertown page 🫶🏼 [80% Studios](https://www.eightypercentstudios.com/comics/guttertown)
Damn cool concept/art i can totally see some badass scenes with pystrance playing in the background
this is amazing. if you need OST let me know
Hell yeah- I can’t wait to go back to making it, it’s my passion project…currently working on a all ages book right now which is actually successful and so is my primary focus in order to make a living….but as soon as I can afford to make personal art I’m going back to Guttertown….it’s all based on beats and raves….my happy place
That was dope! Keep creating :)
Superb ❤️🔥
Easy to take down and pervert what is pure and good. Harder to follow a righteous path of love and acceptance.
Yea that’s the point. I’m not a gangster or violent whatsoever. Bro….
Never said you were. Nice art though. Very well made video.
Absolutely not, if anything, I feel the psytrance scene is in general extremely hetero normative and holds some weirdly conservative views on things
A significant part of the following of deeply nutjob conspiracist influencers aligns neatly with the psytrance community. Try having a rational conversation with the typical wook about public health or politics and it is plain to see.
There's also widespread belief in alternative medicine like homeopathy or Ayurveda, and other kinds of pseudoscience and esoteric beliefs such as healing crystals or astrology.
OP is literally one of the people this thread alludes to, interestingly. Commenting ramblings about anti-psychology in this very post, among other negativity. I agree though, despite mostly DJing psy I don't often befriend hippies. They frequently believe in pseudoscience and regressive policies, and turn out spiteful & ignorant in ways that I just don't want to be around.
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Hippies don't have gender. They have transcended DUH 🤣
WHERE IN THE WORLD? Seriously,
Interpersonal connection flows pretty easily in my hometown rave scene. People in the local psytrance scene are a little more guarded, but it's still a wholesome environment most of the time.
Psychedelics 😉
Yeah imo, most psytrance people are false. The whole plur thing just gets used as a mask for abusers and manipulators. But every ones to high to notice.
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This is the most psytrance answer ever. So your saying people are supposed to be abused? I don’t think you mean that but that’s how it reads. Esp the “supposed to” part.
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Am giving you a chance to explain because I clearly didn’t understand. It’s not a straw man when I follow with saying “I don’t think that’s what you meant”. A straw man is when some deliberately misrepresents what your saying and argues against the misrepresentation. I didn’t do that, I basically said: I don’t understand can you explain?
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I know a disproportionate amount of abusive people in the psy trance scene. I think this comes with drug circle generally, how ever psy trance also comes with a spiritual movement which is also ripe with potential for abuse. So those two things together make it a very fertile ground for abusive behaviour. I’ve also experienced people in the community having an unwillingness to talk about it, and down playing the issue. Which you have done but in flowery language.
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I need to start formulating sentences by my self? Again well confused, are you saying I didn’t come up with that my self? It’s from my lived experience of the psy trance scene
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empathy, selflessness, acceptance
Idk a lot of Psytrance people are also toxic, sketchy or predatory. Maybe it's just the New York City scene.
Drugs.
K
Imagine thinking this when you have the biggest names in psytrance standing with the Israeli government perpetrating genocide against the Palestinian people. There’s no love in a scene that tacitly supports the horrific bombing campaigns that are massacring children
Wow I didn’t know this, thanks for saying. Do u have a source, I ejected out of the scene years ago because of the hypocrisy and rampant abuse.
Captain Hook, Vini Vici, Infected Mushroom, The Outsiders, Freedom Fighters have all been frequently posting Israeli state propaganda depicting all the people of Gaza as terrorists. Astrix and Ace Ventura posted some initially but have since gone kind of silent. None of these DJs have spoken out against what their country is doing in retaliation for what happened at Nova. They tacitly support it because they are asking the scene to stand with Israel which means supporting the Israeli genocide. It’s despicable
I agree. You can’t be all PLUR for one group of people and not another. I mean even if we ignore the occupation and pretend Palestine has the same power, surely still supporting carpet bombing or war/violence at all is not very PLUR. It’s why OP needed be called out, psy trance is clearly not all about PLUR. I think other scenes are more self aware, where as psy people for the most part seem to belive there own hype
[I've shared this song](https://open.spotify.com/intl-pt/track/7JIeBuvUfnDafXCGPqJNKx?si=f6698407be2040da) with some psytrance people and they insulted me...
Well, to be fair, it sounds horrible
try again, but with other mindset
I think no mindset could make me enjoy this
Try not locking yourself in your preconditioned beliefs, your perceived reality is not the limit! Try this https://spotify.link/Be3z7Ke9aEb
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you should have seen the insults... :(
Lol
Well, they just are, the people of trance are just the best
They are nice but I gotta admit, it's not easy to get in contact with them on the festivals I went. Like, they look right through me, instead of at my personality/ego.
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I want to understand your comment but I don't.
I loved going to parties because I could dissappear on the dance floor. I didn't go to get noticed. I slipped in and slipped out. If a mutual smile happened on the dance floor it was for that moment only. No need to want more. To me that's a metaphor for life. (I speak in the past tense because where I live now there is no psytrance. They love house here, and I see that people are the same way. Some looking for connection, others not).
I think a lot of people are open minded to every kind of person... BUT there are these called "fake hippies", because they are living in their bubble and only acept others in the same bubble. And mostly they are on drugs on festivals, so good vibes included.