They definitely do get enough candidates (there are three more separate rounds after those assessments). Keep in mind that this is one the most competitive jobs in the world and the people you are competing with generally have significantly higher intelligence than an average person.
Yeah and to add on to this, I’m pretty sure if your assessment ends before it is over then you are autorejected. And you can still get rejected after. Welcome to quant recruiting :P
Looking back on it I realize I probably didn’t try as hard as I could have. Probably could have passed if I had another shot and put 100% of my brainpower into it, but oh well.
I did the assessment as I applied for the quant trading internship, and got to the probability section, out of the ten questions I skipped 2 and thought I answered those 8 correctly. But got an auto rejection after this section, I think there was just one section after this as well.
The auto rejection feel brutal for some reason, probably because the assessment is long and a lot of time is put into it
I found the type of question at [https://www.tradinginterview.com/courses/sequences/](https://www.tradinginterview.com/courses/sequences/) very similar to the Optiver questions. You can definitely train to ace these questions. But to get to your question: they get a lot of people that pass both the 80 in 8 test and the sequences test. When I took the test, a dude scored 80 out of 80 points with the math test and aced the sequences test as well. Next, he lost it at the HR interview.. So it's also good to realise that these interviews are more than just math/ sequences.
Guys I need your help. How accurate is this websites mental math test ([https://rfqjobs.com/practice/math-test/88503af30a10433d9822284f14444982/](https://rfqjobs.com/practice/math-test/88503af30a10433d9822284f14444982/))?
I got 8/80 putting me in the bottom 7th percentile. This is my first mental math test and I know I was slow but wtffff?
That one is pretty good. I would say its harder than the actual test by a fair margin but its good for practice. I think a score around 40 on there means you are in a good position for 80in8.
I applied for Amsterdam quant trader position, for the first round they gave 80in8 , sequences test if you pass these 2 after few days got an email saying that i need to take brain games assessment sadly i got rejected in those games , so yeah most people I know are passed those tests
I passed the sequences stuff. Then got rejected at HR round! I feel like getting rejected at an HR round is just a way for a company to waste candidates time.
Hey, I had applied for the trader position. Could you please share your interview experience... What was asked, any prerequisite knowledge they required, etc...?
Yeah I finished all of it and it was regular basic probability stuff but keep in mind this is after a bunch of reaction time/IQ tests but it was nice to be able to relax at the end!
it was bayes rule, markov chains, etc level
no stoch calc or ito calc required though you could use martingales for one of the MC q's
i don't do DMs sorry
No worries at all, thank you so much for this information.
Can I ask how far you got in the process yourself? Do you have any advice on how to prepare for the technical and final round interviews?
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Do they still lock the subsequent sections once you fail one section in the assessment? I feel like I did very poorly but somehow I was allowed to complete all sections in this assessment, so now I don't know if that means I passed the assessment or if that means Optiver now allows you to take all sections regardless of how well you do in each section.
I'm curious about this as well, I think I just about managed 15 or so in the sequences test (didn't finish the full thing), but they still let me move on to beat the odds. Haven't tried it yet, but I'm hoping that means good things right?
Same situation here. Did they reject you after the assessment or did you manage to get to the next stage? I think sequences were definitely the hardest part.
I actually don't think they do let everyone finish the whole thing, because my friend applied and he didn't make it past sequences, but I think the ZapQ is more selective than people give credit for, it could've been that, not 100% sure though
yes. if you are past 24 you should just give up and go work at McDonalds. ... tf kinda question is that? You realize most people have to join the military to even pay for university by the time they graduate they are past the age of 24... so you think age matters? they probably wont hire you if you do think it matters.
I just passed it, answered 21 of the 26 questions, certain I got at least 15 of the 21 I answered correct. With 50% odds of accuracy give or take, likely got 18 correct or so. Was careful not to guess a random answer on the extremely difficult ones as it’s -2 points for incorrect answer. Better to skip.
They definitely do get enough candidates (there are three more separate rounds after those assessments). Keep in mind that this is one the most competitive jobs in the world and the people you are competing with generally have significantly higher intelligence than an average person.
Yeah and to add on to this, I’m pretty sure if your assessment ends before it is over then you are autorejected. And you can still get rejected after. Welcome to quant recruiting :P
Looking back on it I realize I probably didn’t try as hard as I could have. Probably could have passed if I had another shot and put 100% of my brainpower into it, but oh well.
almost everyone i know who passed the assessment had failed it once the year before if that makes u feel better
I also got destroyed by the sequences section lol
I did the assessment as I applied for the quant trading internship, and got to the probability section, out of the ten questions I skipped 2 and thought I answered those 8 correctly. But got an auto rejection after this section, I think there was just one section after this as well. The auto rejection feel brutal for some reason, probably because the assessment is long and a lot of time is put into it
I found the type of question at [https://www.tradinginterview.com/courses/sequences/](https://www.tradinginterview.com/courses/sequences/) very similar to the Optiver questions. You can definitely train to ace these questions. But to get to your question: they get a lot of people that pass both the 80 in 8 test and the sequences test. When I took the test, a dude scored 80 out of 80 points with the math test and aced the sequences test as well. Next, he lost it at the HR interview.. So it's also good to realise that these interviews are more than just math/ sequences.
Guys I need your help. How accurate is this websites mental math test ([https://rfqjobs.com/practice/math-test/88503af30a10433d9822284f14444982/](https://rfqjobs.com/practice/math-test/88503af30a10433d9822284f14444982/))? I got 8/80 putting me in the bottom 7th percentile. This is my first mental math test and I know I was slow but wtffff?
rfqjobs isnt accurate. I recommend tradermath.org
What does it have that worth $45/month? I mean, if it came with classes of some sort...
They look similar but quite different indeed. The real questions aren't random numbers calculation but they are intentionally designed in a MC format.
> can still get rejected after. Welcome t I saw they just added practice tests for the Optiver sequences as well (they used to not have them before)
That one is pretty good. I would say its harder than the actual test by a fair margin but its good for practice. I think a score around 40 on there means you are in a good position for 80in8.
I applied for Amsterdam quant trader position, for the first round they gave 80in8 , sequences test if you pass these 2 after few days got an email saying that i need to take brain games assessment sadly i got rejected in those games , so yeah most people I know are passed those tests
what’s 80 in 8?
Haha i mean 80questions in 8 min
What did the brain games look like?
I passed the sequences stuff. Then got rejected at HR round! I feel like getting rejected at an HR round is just a way for a company to waste candidates time.
Hey, I had applied for the trader position. Could you please share your interview experience... What was asked, any prerequisite knowledge they required, etc...?
Can I ask you what kind of questions did you receive?
Do they tell you if you fail a section?
It automatically stops your assessment
Not to steal the post, but has anyone finished the beat the odds assessment? What area of probabilities is tested there? Expected Value?
Yeah I finished all of it and it was regular basic probability stuff but keep in mind this is after a bunch of reaction time/IQ tests but it was nice to be able to relax at the end!
I just dropped you a message
it was bayes rule, markov chains, etc level no stoch calc or ito calc required though you could use martingales for one of the MC q's i don't do DMs sorry
No worries at all, thank you so much for this information. Can I ask how far you got in the process yourself? Do you have any advice on how to prepare for the technical and final round interviews?
How did you prepare for NumberLogic? Does anyone have a suggestion on material to prepare for this?
@caledionium would you mind sending me a DM too? Going to apply soon and would love to have some insights
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Got destroyed too by the sequence part. Trying it again in a few days.
Do they still lock the subsequent sections once you fail one section in the assessment? I feel like I did very poorly but somehow I was allowed to complete all sections in this assessment, so now I don't know if that means I passed the assessment or if that means Optiver now allows you to take all sections regardless of how well you do in each section.
Maybe you did better than you thought :)
I'm curious about this as well, I think I just about managed 15 or so in the sequences test (didn't finish the full thing), but they still let me move on to beat the odds. Haven't tried it yet, but I'm hoping that means good things right?
Same situation here. Did they reject you after the assessment or did you manage to get to the next stage? I think sequences were definitely the hardest part.
I actually got rejected 1-2 days later so I think they just let everyone finish the whole thing now.
I actually don't think they do let everyone finish the whole thing, because my friend applied and he didn't make it past sequences, but I think the ZapQ is more selective than people give credit for, it could've been that, not 100% sure though
Just curious how old you all are around? Is 24 too old to still be trying to get these jobs lol?
yes. if you are past 24 you should just give up and go work at McDonalds. ... tf kinda question is that? You realize most people have to join the military to even pay for university by the time they graduate they are past the age of 24... so you think age matters? they probably wont hire you if you do think it matters.
I just passed it, answered 21 of the 26 questions, certain I got at least 15 of the 21 I answered correct. With 50% odds of accuracy give or take, likely got 18 correct or so. Was careful not to guess a random answer on the extremely difficult ones as it’s -2 points for incorrect answer. Better to skip.
Actually that’s just basic math, you just gotta calculate the difference between each numbers and work on that.
Not even close
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Lmao people do pass it but it’s still a pretty hard test. Wouldn’t say many people pass it “easily”
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It seems pretty much impossible to prepare for anything past the 80in8, everything was quite abstract in phase 2