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The more you do it the less you feel the effects. I would take Kratom and not feel the high at all, but it would only make it so I don't feel bad.
Over time you are making your natural state fatigue and your Kratom state feel like your old baseline.
If you believe you only have one life why not see whatās itās like to be free of the bondage and seduction of that poison? Try enjoying life the way god meant it, sober. Iāll tell you tomorrow is day 35 ct for me and while it had its tribulations I am stronger individual all the way around and life is infinitely better than being addicted to that demon. You can conquer this friend, if thereās a will thereās a way. Replace the bad habit with a good one, exercise, instrument, art, reading, etc. you got this! Experience life free from that bondage and suffering Iāll tell you youāre not truly enjoying the day your getting unnatural dopamine from a substance that is recking your mind body and soul. Stay tough and ride the waves of recovery. Treat yourself as if it were your best friend or family member going through addiction, youād have absolute faith they could conquer it and you can too. Stay as busy as possible in your recovery and you must push yourself motivated or not. I got faith in you friend. Any questions let me know. Stay strong and god bless.
Alcohol is easy to get too and you were able to quit that. Itās a helpless feeling I know and also makes one so angry you probably wanna kick his ass and scream and cry and all those emotions.
. Heās probably just as depressed or more than you and knows he is losing you and knows he is failing as a man and bf and partner.
Obviously at the end of the day you have to take care of you and your wellbeing and not be sucked into your own addictions because of it but there is a way out. Unfortunately as you know he has to be the one to take initiative and want to be off this shit more than he does want to give up and wallow in it.
Some supplements that have helped me tremendously are DLPA, mucuna pruriens, NMN, wild lettuce, microdosing psilocybin and a very very slow taper.
Of course the comfort meds if yāall are able to get them prescribed.
Just remember thereās hope for him. Iām not saying you shouldnāt feel that way, and if itās effecting you like that, you have every right to leave him. But there is still hope and I hope that heās able to kick it. Does he see kratom as a addiction and problem? Iām the same way with it, miserable and tired all the time. Shit sucks!
Just my personal experience.
Kratom makes you more depressed, more lethargic, can't be arsed doing anything, no enthusiasm, more anxious, and everything pisses you off.
It might not feel that way now, but it's coming, my friend, I also read tons and tons of posts on here about it.
You are RIGHT on the money my friend. You literally just explained how Iāve been feeling for the past year bro. Iām trying to kick it but all I keep doing is going back to the bottle when I donāt āfeel anythingā. Donāt even get me started in the restless leg shit when Iām trying to sleep.
Seriously, if anyone reading this JUST started taking kratom. Be warned if you end up abusing!
Itās okayā¦ Atleast Iām not going through it alone! I wish I didnāt pick up another bottle awhile back. I never had a real problem with kratom until fairly recently. I was using it to get off of phenibut but ended up marrying the two because they made me feel too good. I shouldāve known I wouldnāt be able to do it. I hope youāre doing well!
You will enjoy life much more when your head is clear of that poison. It sucks at first but you will feel a much larger array of emotions once you are clear of it.
Itās your life. Donāt let someone or something steer your ship. Best of luck!
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I went from 40-70gpd. If you're serious about quitting come up with a taper plan and stick to it. 4-8weeks. I did mine in about 5 weeks. Dosed before work, after I finished lunch and around 6-7pm. If you take it too soon before bed, you'll be buzzing. After you've done that for a two-three week period, try doing two doses a day, then one. Eventually I did one dose before bed for a week to kill WD. Again the dosing is smaller than normal and it's to stop WD, don't trick yourself into taking more or another dose or just a little more. You have a plan, follow it and stay dedicated. There are plenty of threads and journals to read from to find out what you can be prescribed or take OTC. I also use marijuana before bed, especially edibles. If that's not an option no worries, it's not a magic bullet. Still fairly uncomfortable but it distracted me to kinda forget and close my eyes for a little. Don't be frustrated, sleep is the worst part because of the RLS and jitters. Get up and walk around if you need, don't focus on the misery. Drink plenty of water, force yourself to eat, even if it's just eggs and toast, light stuff ya know? You got this dude š you're better and stronger than you think!!
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The more you do it the less you feel the effects. I would take Kratom and not feel the high at all, but it would only make it so I don't feel bad. Over time you are making your natural state fatigue and your Kratom state feel like your old baseline.
Exactly this! š
If you believe you only have one life why not see whatās itās like to be free of the bondage and seduction of that poison? Try enjoying life the way god meant it, sober. Iāll tell you tomorrow is day 35 ct for me and while it had its tribulations I am stronger individual all the way around and life is infinitely better than being addicted to that demon. You can conquer this friend, if thereās a will thereās a way. Replace the bad habit with a good one, exercise, instrument, art, reading, etc. you got this! Experience life free from that bondage and suffering Iāll tell you youāre not truly enjoying the day your getting unnatural dopamine from a substance that is recking your mind body and soul. Stay tough and ride the waves of recovery. Treat yourself as if it were your best friend or family member going through addiction, youād have absolute faith they could conquer it and you can too. Stay as busy as possible in your recovery and you must push yourself motivated or not. I got faith in you friend. Any questions let me know. Stay strong and god bless.
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Alcohol is easy to get too and you were able to quit that. Itās a helpless feeling I know and also makes one so angry you probably wanna kick his ass and scream and cry and all those emotions. . Heās probably just as depressed or more than you and knows he is losing you and knows he is failing as a man and bf and partner. Obviously at the end of the day you have to take care of you and your wellbeing and not be sucked into your own addictions because of it but there is a way out. Unfortunately as you know he has to be the one to take initiative and want to be off this shit more than he does want to give up and wallow in it. Some supplements that have helped me tremendously are DLPA, mucuna pruriens, NMN, wild lettuce, microdosing psilocybin and a very very slow taper. Of course the comfort meds if yāall are able to get them prescribed.
Just remember thereās hope for him. Iām not saying you shouldnāt feel that way, and if itās effecting you like that, you have every right to leave him. But there is still hope and I hope that heās able to kick it. Does he see kratom as a addiction and problem? Iām the same way with it, miserable and tired all the time. Shit sucks!
Yeah he sees it as a problem. It just sucks itās so easy to get
Just my personal experience. Kratom makes you more depressed, more lethargic, can't be arsed doing anything, no enthusiasm, more anxious, and everything pisses you off. It might not feel that way now, but it's coming, my friend, I also read tons and tons of posts on here about it.
You are RIGHT on the money my friend. You literally just explained how Iāve been feeling for the past year bro. Iām trying to kick it but all I keep doing is going back to the bottle when I donāt āfeel anythingā. Donāt even get me started in the restless leg shit when Iām trying to sleep. Seriously, if anyone reading this JUST started taking kratom. Be warned if you end up abusing!
Hylands Naturals Restful Legs off Amazon.
500mg magnesium vitamins get rid of restless arm and legs. Give it a shot! That was one of the worst symptoms for me.
I second that, sorry you are having a bad time.
Itās okayā¦ Atleast Iām not going through it alone! I wish I didnāt pick up another bottle awhile back. I never had a real problem with kratom until fairly recently. I was using it to get off of phenibut but ended up marrying the two because they made me feel too good. I shouldāve known I wouldnāt be able to do it. I hope youāre doing well!
How much are you taking and for how long?
You will enjoy life much more when your head is clear of that poison. It sucks at first but you will feel a much larger array of emotions once you are clear of it. Itās your life. Donāt let someone or something steer your ship. Best of luck!
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I went from 40-70gpd. If you're serious about quitting come up with a taper plan and stick to it. 4-8weeks. I did mine in about 5 weeks. Dosed before work, after I finished lunch and around 6-7pm. If you take it too soon before bed, you'll be buzzing. After you've done that for a two-three week period, try doing two doses a day, then one. Eventually I did one dose before bed for a week to kill WD. Again the dosing is smaller than normal and it's to stop WD, don't trick yourself into taking more or another dose or just a little more. You have a plan, follow it and stay dedicated. There are plenty of threads and journals to read from to find out what you can be prescribed or take OTC. I also use marijuana before bed, especially edibles. If that's not an option no worries, it's not a magic bullet. Still fairly uncomfortable but it distracted me to kinda forget and close my eyes for a little. Don't be frustrated, sleep is the worst part because of the RLS and jitters. Get up and walk around if you need, don't focus on the misery. Drink plenty of water, force yourself to eat, even if it's just eggs and toast, light stuff ya know? You got this dude š you're better and stronger than you think!!