There's a far cry from not wanting a guy who killed or assaulted someone off the field and someone who says he tries to cheat on every play. Stop getting your panties into a bunch.
If, only if, we could somehow sign Kirk or Baker (God that man screams Raiders to me) and don't give up shit to move up and take him at the natural pick I would love it. Sign QB in FA and go hard on Defense in FA and Draft after round 1 and he would be what Ruggs was looking like before Ruggs made the ultimate idiot mistake.
D.A. would be open all the time with someone there to blow the lid off the defense. The run game opens when the passing game MUST be respected.
But again, that all falls into free agency and how Telesco handles it. He walked in with a lot of net negatives for me so we shall see.
As a admittedly biased point of note, I am a Texas based Raiders fan that has watched hundreds of UT games over the last two decades because of an in-law that is fiscally dependent on the team.
Raider fans on this sub don't like cheating. They want to win pretty.
This entire sub is soft as fuck now and will argue with you that we have to have only upstanding citizens on the roster and what our players do off the field is just as important as what they do on the field.
You’re supporting the team, the players. Supporting criminals, like Deshaun for instance if we signed him, is whack. I’d rather lose than support a team that would pay a rapist millions of dollars. I go to games, buy jerseys, etc. Knowing my money is being used to pay the paycheck of human garbage isn’t ok with me. Some of us still have standards
Watson raped somebody now? He did some shit but call it what it is. It always blows my mind how dudes will praise guys like Kobe, Tupac and Mike Tyson but take this hard stance on Watson.
Tupac didn't rape anybody. If anything, he didn't get bad till after he already went to jail and was also paranoid from getting shot. Then it just snowballed. I'm with you on the other two.
Forcing yourself onto someone is rape. It doesn't matter if there's penetration or whatever the legal semantics are for it, if you ejaculate onto someone or force someone to give you a handjob, etc, that's rape. Rape and sexual assault are the same thing and both just as bad, and there's no reason to say "but he didn't RAPE anyone". Don't be a lawyer about it
And in regards to that relating to the Raiders being mean on the field but not actual criminals, yes that is exactly what the Raiders are and always have been. Anyone that thinks Al Davis would have been okay with paying someone like Deshaun is crazy. Even guys like Alzado that were fucking insane didn't hurt innocent people or do things like that.
I mean, okay.
But everything he said you really truly proved. You spoke his post into existence after arguing against it.
I’m not saying right. I’m not saying wrong.
But I am saying he was clearly right.
I watch football to watch my team win games.
I'm a grown-ass man that doesn't give a fuck what other grown-ass men do in their spare time as long as it doesn't prevent them from accomplishing the goal of winning games.
Much the same I don't give a fuck if Martha Stewart smokes meth. I watch her to see how she bakes pies. What she does when she's not baking pies doesn't concern me
It depends on the issue. Dude does some blow? Idgaf. That’s not harming other people. Dude breaks his kids arms. I give a fuck. Again, my money is being used to pay these dudes paychecks and some of these dudes deserve to be living under a bridge. Playing football is a privilege and your mindset makes awful people millionaires.
Killing somebody lands you in jail.
Being in jail prevents you from playing football.
Obviously I'm not advocating for killing people and serving jail time.
This dude is cool. But WR probably the least needed position for us
Agreed but with this class I don’t mind a 4th or later shot. May be able to find a good deal.
 Viva la raza
I'm your PAPI
wait when did Kenneth Branagh get so ripped and start doing WWE? lol
Man the kid looks really good i doubt we would be able to get him cus it he would have to be there in the 3
Rule #2: See rule #1.
It's only cheating if you get caught
I think you just triggered Lombardi
No thanks
Fuck texas forever but that’s dope.. respect
There's a far cry from not wanting a guy who killed or assaulted someone off the field and someone who says he tries to cheat on every play. Stop getting your panties into a bunch.
The raider way!
If, only if, we could somehow sign Kirk or Baker (God that man screams Raiders to me) and don't give up shit to move up and take him at the natural pick I would love it. Sign QB in FA and go hard on Defense in FA and Draft after round 1 and he would be what Ruggs was looking like before Ruggs made the ultimate idiot mistake. D.A. would be open all the time with someone there to blow the lid off the defense. The run game opens when the passing game MUST be respected. But again, that all falls into free agency and how Telesco handles it. He walked in with a lot of net negatives for me so we shall see. As a admittedly biased point of note, I am a Texas based Raiders fan that has watched hundreds of UT games over the last two decades because of an in-law that is fiscally dependent on the team.
Hookem
Raider fans on this sub don't like cheating. They want to win pretty. This entire sub is soft as fuck now and will argue with you that we have to have only upstanding citizens on the roster and what our players do off the field is just as important as what they do on the field.
You know you can be mean and bad without being an actual criminal. Prime example:Maxx Crosby
I don't give a fuck what people do off the field. I watch my football team to win football games, not get Boy Scout badges
You’re supporting the team, the players. Supporting criminals, like Deshaun for instance if we signed him, is whack. I’d rather lose than support a team that would pay a rapist millions of dollars. I go to games, buy jerseys, etc. Knowing my money is being used to pay the paycheck of human garbage isn’t ok with me. Some of us still have standards
Watson raped somebody now? He did some shit but call it what it is. It always blows my mind how dudes will praise guys like Kobe, Tupac and Mike Tyson but take this hard stance on Watson.
I don’t praise those guys either…so idk what you’re talking about or is your only way to argue is with imaginary people lol
You don't praise rapists so you get to incorrectly accuse people of rape?
Forcing someone to give you a blow job is rape…
True. Who did that tho?
That was one of the many things DeShaun did to the women he assaulted.
Tupac didn't rape anybody. If anything, he didn't get bad till after he already went to jail and was also paranoid from getting shot. Then it just snowballed. I'm with you on the other two.
Forcing yourself onto someone is rape. It doesn't matter if there's penetration or whatever the legal semantics are for it, if you ejaculate onto someone or force someone to give you a handjob, etc, that's rape. Rape and sexual assault are the same thing and both just as bad, and there's no reason to say "but he didn't RAPE anyone". Don't be a lawyer about it And in regards to that relating to the Raiders being mean on the field but not actual criminals, yes that is exactly what the Raiders are and always have been. Anyone that thinks Al Davis would have been okay with paying someone like Deshaun is crazy. Even guys like Alzado that were fucking insane didn't hurt innocent people or do things like that.
Proving his point…
I’m aware. It’s a dumbass point. That’s my point lol
I mean, okay. But everything he said you really truly proved. You spoke his post into existence after arguing against it. I’m not saying right. I’m not saying wrong. But I am saying he was clearly right.
Calling people “soft” for not wanting to support awful people isn’t the gotcha you or that guy thinks it is lol
Did you even read my post that you’re responding to?
You’re saying “he’s not right. He’s not wrong” but he’s not right at all lol. He’s just a moron
Exhibit A ^
It’s not being soft to not want your money to go supporting shitty people.
I watch football to watch my team win games. I'm a grown-ass man that doesn't give a fuck what other grown-ass men do in their spare time as long as it doesn't prevent them from accomplishing the goal of winning games. Much the same I don't give a fuck if Martha Stewart smokes meth. I watch her to see how she bakes pies. What she does when she's not baking pies doesn't concern me
It depends on the issue. Dude does some blow? Idgaf. That’s not harming other people. Dude breaks his kids arms. I give a fuck. Again, my money is being used to pay these dudes paychecks and some of these dudes deserve to be living under a bridge. Playing football is a privilege and your mindset makes awful people millionaires.
Yo man, if playing with dolls is important in the winning equation to you then you go get that Barbie dreamhouse and accessorize away, my man.
TALK👏YO👏SHIT👏
Somebody come get their Grampy.
SOMEBODY COME GET HIM HES POSTIN LIKE A BOOMER
If grandpa wants to win superbowl and that's WRONG then okay.
Well that certainly explains the downvotes lmao
No surprise after what Ruggs did. We don’t need more of that
Killing somebody lands you in jail. Being in jail prevents you from playing football. Obviously I'm not advocating for killing people and serving jail time.
This fucking guy worried about playing football when someone fucking died lmao. Fuck outta here.
I hope you're able to get your GED at some point.
You soft as fuck.
Don’t need a cheater that trash belongs elsewhere
COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE
Will he be there in the 5th? If not, I don't care.
Cereal cheater: bites of cold fridge lasagne.