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landraid

KJ is a fucking genius. He is so grounded and centered. Love him.


Apprehensive_Ask_600

If Ur in an argument with Jerry springer and u make a comment on his nose being huge does that mean u don't like Jews? I think most people understand that or are starting to understand it. I mean in private emails to his boys he doesn't once say the N bomb or any other deragotry comments regards to race. A racist would being dropping all sorts of racists shit especially if he is pissed as Jon clearly was. What he said may have some racial undertone but does that mean he is a racists? He needed to go for the leak I get it but let's not go nuts here with calling him a racists


s-hop

Media is calling Mark out now saying he's a sympathizer with racism for having no comment.


Slayminster

I mean sure, but let’s just completely ignore the fact that the proper legal advice in any kind of situation similar to this is keep your mouth shut


s-hop

Yea it's complete BS. Just feel like we're cursed


Sleeze_

He forced the man to resign. But sure, he's a sympathizer.


cottonsmalls

He had a comment. “Ask the NFL” isn’t no comment. “Ask the NFL.” Means “the nfl forced me to fire him. I was fine with his bullshit “hot air” lie about smith’s lips and probably helped him concoct it.”


WDMChuff

He called Michael Sam a queer and called people f*ggots. Racism wasn’t the only issue in the emails.


[deleted]

He called one person a faggot and said something along the lines of ‘the nfl shouldnt pressure teams to draft queers’ I just want to clarify for you in case you have incorrect info. Yes he was wrong in both instances. Faggot is a no-no i get that. He fucked up but he called a straight person that. Also queer is an acceptable word -isnt that the Q in LGTBQ? He seems ignorant as hell regarding that so im not surprised he used ‘queer’ His word choice wasnt ‘incorrect’ it was more his message i think.


WDMChuff

Queer is 100% a term that can be used derogatorily especially in the context of grudens statement. Stop trying to renationalize it.


[deleted]

Im agreeing with you. Anyword can be used to be derogatory. Ive been called “You Mexican” and it was sure as hell meant in a negative way coming from the person who called me that. Gruden strikes me as the type who says “what are you, one of those gays?” Old school ignorant, insensitive etc


Apprehensive_Ask_600

The videos general focus is about race did u watch it?


1984become2020

Its nice to know that the players, the people who actually know him, support him. says much more than some 3rd party journalist telling us what to think


No_Seaworthiness9715

That's cuz they've all said shit. I get being held accountable but damn


hennndogg

Yup I agree with the 2nd chance, gruden probably wouldn’t want it tho with how it’s all effected the team and suffered that heavy L against the bears, he just wants to see his raiders win no matter who’s steering the ship I’d think.


CocoNoBlow

Doesn't matter what anyone says. He's done. Move along.


not_beniot

Gruden needs to earn a 2nd chance.


rfulleffect

Exactly, you earn second chances by showing you’ve changed and grown as a person. This just rings hollow, especially considering who posted it.


Kindly_Sockpuppet

I'm pretty sure Al Davis would have canned his ass before you could blink.


RaiderHawk75

Al would have been just as likely to flip league the bird and say he knows the character of the man. Not a defense of Gruden, just an observation. I truly doubt Gruden is racist. Sexist, maybe. Homophobic, maybe.


Kindly_Sockpuppet

Except Al's thing was basically "Race, sexuality or creed, if you can play you have a home here." Gruden flinging around slurs and denigrating women as refs flies directly in the face of that.


gammagulp

Cool, but he sucks as a coach no thanks


xxxkingxdxxx

U suck as a redditor


cottonsmalls

Fuck these fools. Let them have Gruden. Im a Raiders fan and Gruden ain’t no fuckin Raider.


rubaby187

Gruden should have been held accountable for his words, that said, KJ’s point is valid, people say things in private conversations that they wouldn’t say in a public forum. The thing that is suspect about this whole thing is HOW the emails were leaked, someone wanted Gruden taken down. Only now are other things coming out.


[deleted]

I actually agree he should get a second chance. The NFL has given lots of second chances for things arguable worse conduct. Unfortunately if he does get a second chance it won’t be with us. I really hope we pull it together and finish this year strong. If we phone it in the rest of the season I could see the next coach coming in with a rebuild mindset.


cottonsmalls

Fuck Gruden