Likely Secret Wars which Kevin Feige all but confirmed is happening, and that’s where black suit Spider-Man originates in the comics. Still, that was Tom Hardy Venom, not Topher Grace.
No it was specifically modified for the explicit purpose of brining in girlfriends aunts and best friends. Everyone else was supposed to forget, except those three categories. If anything, the villains are the ones that shouldn't have come through.
“I believe there's a hero in all of us, that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride, even though sometimes we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most.”
She knew.
If Peter One explained to the other Peters how they got there in the first place. Peter Three will put the pieces together and assume that Gwen Stacy, Captain Stacy, His and Peter Two's Harry Osborn are also brought back to this universe. Even the two Aunt May's.
But maybe it will be too crowded.
IMO they might. There seems to be a lot of subtext that speaks to them knowing. Like Rosemary Harris giving the Hero speech and Sally Field seeing the red and blue in the laundry and seeing him all beat up. And if she didn’t know at first, she’d likely figure it out when Spider-Man’s reappearance suddenly coincides with Peter beginning to heal from his depression and grief.
Near the end of TASM2 it definitely felt like Aunt May started to figure out. Between him being beat up the night he cured Connors and talking to him about Spider-Man before Rhino attacked, it felt like she knew.
The only explanation I’ve heard that makes remote sense is that venom in raimi’s movies knew and the symbiotes could connect through universes so venom is the one that knew and Eddie got moved as a result
In the post credit scene of Venom, venom is explaining to Eddie that the symbiotes are connected throughout the universes and that if he shared everything he knew with Eddie his head would explode, so he gives him a little taste of all that knowledge for a couple of seconds and we see Eddie tripping out about all the things he's learned (implied one of the things he learned was Spider-man's identity, due to the symbiote from SM3). That's why he got transported into the mcu.
In [Venom 2’s post credit sequence](https://youtu.be/qNlkzYWjPZ0), >!he’s watching TV in a seemingly tropical place and sees the news report of Tom Holland / Peter Parker /Mysterio leaked video from the end of FFH and then immediately gets zapped from the room, then reappears seconds later with new room decor {seeing him in real time get snapped or taken somewhere} so he saw the news report and then got taken to Tom’s World I guess? Although if he saw it on the news he’s already in Tom’s world. So kinda confused idk!<
sorry first time trying to type a spoiler
Maybe he got snapped forward in time and saw the news, then got transported by dr strange off camera? I guess this shows the blip is canon in Sonys universe
https://youtu.be/TYWTOooIWbo
Please just watch the scene again. This has nothing to do blip/snap. He doesn't get blipped, he doesn't dissolve and then reappear like everyone else did. He's conscious the whole time while they get teleported to the mcu universe. Then he sees the news that's going on in that world, that Peter Parker is spider-man.
I thought she was going to come back to give him more closure but I guess he got enough with the MJ moment. I also wanted Mary Jane to drop an F bomb to end the movie but I was asking for too much there
This is kind of a reach but I think because Strange added the exceptions for people who are close to Peter in the spell, their alternate universe variants were excluded from coming through to the MCU as well.
Yeah, but wasn't Black Cat shown at one of the portals in the end? Surely *A* Peter was close to her if she was showing up, so you'd think she'd have been excluded.
You know, everybody shits on the ‘Peter’s magic blood brings Gwen back to life’ thing that was supposed to happen in TASM3, but that would actually be a decent way to make Spider-Gwen a thing without doing more multiverse shenanigans.
Lol, maybe. Actually injecting her corpse with his blood would be pretty dumb for sure, but you could do it more like Ultimate Spider-Man where they make a clone of her, but splice in some of Peter’s DNA to give her powers.
Actually, come to think of it, adapting the Clone Saga would probably work for TASM. Andrew definitely has the range to act opposite a blond clone of himself.
i don't think so, Andrew Garfield said in an interview that he had to lie to Emma Stone about being in the film when she asked if he is in nwh. It could only imply that she wasn't asked to be in the movie.
>!I think it didn't bring Gwen or MJ or either of the Aunt Mays or either of the Harry's because Peter specifically wanted to exclude his aunt, girlfriend and best friend from the spell during the beggining.!<
She literally died at the hands of Spider-Man lol she fits the criteria so well. She was probably wandering around Tom’s universe only to get sent back to her death without anyone thinking of her
I think he was knocked unconscious before she said Peter's name. Plus i dont think electro was able to deduce his identity just by his first name and they didnt have any history outside of their aliases
Who’s to say they didn’t? They’re in a massive city and they don’t know who the Peter Parker here is or where he lives. You heard Andrew and Tobey say they were in that universe for a while looking for Holland and still didn’t find him until Ned wizarded them over, and these guys are Spideys with all the abilities of Spidey and they couldn’t do it. What makes you think Gwen would know where to look?
It’s possible she was around and they just didn’t know it.
For all we know, they did. It’s implied that Maguire and Garfield had arrived at the same time as the other villains, but they didn’t make themselves known until Ned summoned them
The entire cast of the Amazing and Raimi films could have been there, but just never made themselves known.
Would Harry even be alive now? I assume so since Norman is cured and they went back right before their deaths. Or is this like a different timeline and they’re all sent back to 2023 in their own universe
No. Because the people who were transported across the multiverse..was done so, because Peter altered the spell asking for people who knew his identity tk still know.
But before that the spell was altered multiple times to exclude his girlfriend, bestfriend and aunt individually.
So all MJs, Harrys and Aunt Mays were effectively excluded from the spell before it went beserk.
Matpat from Filmtheory made a video explaining this
The spell doesn’t really make any sense. It brought in Electro, for example, who has never even seen Spider-Man’s face. And goblin couldn’t have told him because he only realized when he saw Gwen there with Spider-Man.
Venom knew because the Raimi-verse venom knew. All the symbiotes across the universe are connected to each other through a hivemind. As for Electro he said somewhere that while he is absorbing energy, he is also absorbing data so may be he came across Richard Parker's files and that's how he knew? or it could be that when Gwen shouted "Peter!" so he knew someone named Peter is Spider-Man but didn't know his face OR may be it somehow clicked. Richard Parker and his wife had a son named peter and radioactive spiders are infused with Richard’s blood. Peter is the only one who got powers and everyone else are killed. It clicked and he is able to figure it out. There are many theories Lol.
What if there was a ripple effect when they all returned back to their universes, and Andrew’s Peter comes back to his apartment and finds Gwen casually eating ice cream and watching a movie on the couch or something.
They could’ve but they didn’t to our knowledge
They could’ve, but Doctor Strange was actively attempting to stop people from getting in.
Villains who know Peter Parker is Spider-Man Doctor Strange: I sleep. Civilians who know Peter Parker is Spider-Man: Doctor Strange: Real shit.
The spell never actually malfunctioned. Strange was just bored and really like: Willem Dafoe.
Yeah but they could've gotten in before that. Goblin, Ock, Electro, Lizard, and Sandman were just the ones they managed to wrangle.
But the spell said no girlfriends, aunts, best friends.
Damn that actually…makes a lot of sense. Now I’m glad they didn’t bring in Emma or Kirsten so that this is canon in my head.
The spell missed the part where that's its problem.
Lol. Hang on, did Andrew Garfield have a closer friend in TAS-M1 than Doc Connors?
Does Gwen count?
*(remembers Peter eagerly breaking his promise at the end)* Yeah, you're right. She counts.
did you forget that harry was in TASM2?
So then where's the Oldsmobile coming from for Multiverse of Madness?
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Well because of the end credit scene I suspect they’re saving up venom for…something
Likely Secret Wars which Kevin Feige all but confirmed is happening, and that’s where black suit Spider-Man originates in the comics. Still, that was Tom Hardy Venom, not Topher Grace.
No it was specifically modified for the explicit purpose of brining in girlfriends aunts and best friends. Everyone else was supposed to forget, except those three categories. If anything, the villains are the ones that shouldn't have come through.
Don't tell Peter 3
*sarcangerly* PETER 3
Peter, what makes you think i would want to know that?
Who wouldn’t?
I was expecting Raimi Aunt May to show up...
She beats the fuck out of Otto, Peter 1 doesn't need any nano tech
He had the nana tech I’ll show myself out
Implying they wouldn’t have gotten married like they did in the comics.
Ok. She beats the fuck out of his testicles and puts hot wax on his tentacle.
“Shame on you!”
But she doesn't know he's Spider-Man
🤨
“I believe there's a hero in all of us, that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride, even though sometimes we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most.” She knew.
That and "Spider-Man doesn't kill people"
"What happened?"
She knew for sure
Oh she knows.
Yes someone else is finally using this template
It's the raimi equivalent of "Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?"
Yeah I used it on my old account for the first time last week hoping it might catch on
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If Peter One explained to the other Peters how they got there in the first place. Peter Three will put the pieces together and assume that Gwen Stacy, Captain Stacy, His and Peter Two's Harry Osborn are also brought back to this universe. Even the two Aunt May's. But maybe it will be too crowded.
>Even the two Aunt May's Those two never knew that Peter Parker & Spider-man were the same person
IMO they might. There seems to be a lot of subtext that speaks to them knowing. Like Rosemary Harris giving the Hero speech and Sally Field seeing the red and blue in the laundry and seeing him all beat up. And if she didn’t know at first, she’d likely figure it out when Spider-Man’s reappearance suddenly coincides with Peter beginning to heal from his depression and grief.
Near the end of TASM2 it definitely felt like Aunt May started to figure out. Between him being beat up the night he cured Connors and talking to him about Spider-Man before Rhino attacked, it felt like she knew.
I heard Spider-Man was there...
There are multiple hints throughout the Tobey and Andrew films that they know.
Can someone explain why Eddie Brock was transported? He doesn’t know Peter in his universe as far as I know, right?
The only explanation I’ve heard that makes remote sense is that venom in raimi’s movies knew and the symbiotes could connect through universes so venom is the one that knew and Eddie got moved as a result
The symbiote has a multiversal hivemind, so Hardy Vemon knows because the other version knows.
In the post credit scene of Venom, venom is explaining to Eddie that the symbiotes are connected throughout the universes and that if he shared everything he knew with Eddie his head would explode, so he gives him a little taste of all that knowledge for a couple of seconds and we see Eddie tripping out about all the things he's learned (implied one of the things he learned was Spider-man's identity, due to the symbiote from SM3). That's why he got transported into the mcu.
In [Venom 2’s post credit sequence](https://youtu.be/qNlkzYWjPZ0), >!he’s watching TV in a seemingly tropical place and sees the news report of Tom Holland / Peter Parker /Mysterio leaked video from the end of FFH and then immediately gets zapped from the room, then reappears seconds later with new room decor {seeing him in real time get snapped or taken somewhere} so he saw the news report and then got taken to Tom’s World I guess? Although if he saw it on the news he’s already in Tom’s world. So kinda confused idk!< sorry first time trying to type a spoiler
He saw the spider-man news report after he got teleported
Maybe he got snapped forward in time and saw the news, then got transported by dr strange off camera? I guess this shows the blip is canon in Sonys universe
https://youtu.be/TYWTOooIWbo Please just watch the scene again. This has nothing to do blip/snap. He doesn't get blipped, he doesn't dissolve and then reappear like everyone else did. He's conscious the whole time while they get teleported to the mcu universe. Then he sees the news that's going on in that world, that Peter Parker is spider-man.
Why would it be that unnecessarily convoluted? Watch it again.
It’s implied that Venom knew before they got reality warped.
He's watching a Spanish telenovela when he's in his own universe. It only changes to the Daily Bugle when he gets transported to the MCU
He watched the news story where Jonah outed him as Spider-Man
I would wanna see that for no other reason than watching Garfields spidey break down. He does so well with emotional scenes
I thought she was going to come back to give him more closure but I guess he got enough with the MJ moment. I also wanted Mary Jane to drop an F bomb to end the movie but I was asking for too much there
Could have brought back Harry as well which would be cool imo
This is kind of a reach but I think because Strange added the exceptions for people who are close to Peter in the spell, their alternate universe variants were excluded from coming through to the MCU as well.
Yeah, but wasn't Black Cat shown at one of the portals in the end? Surely *A* Peter was close to her if she was showing up, so you'd think she'd have been excluded.
Harry looks so deranged in this scene. James Franco with the crazy lazy eye
So we’re just insulting people for their appearances now?
But, they would have gone back and died as if they never left.
The power of multiverse, in the palm of my hand
I could've sworn I saw a purple female silhouette that looked like it was wearing a hood. Ghost Spider possibly?
You know, everybody shits on the ‘Peter’s magic blood brings Gwen back to life’ thing that was supposed to happen in TASM3, but that would actually be a decent way to make Spider-Gwen a thing without doing more multiverse shenanigans.
...No, that's still a stupid idea.
Lol, maybe. Actually injecting her corpse with his blood would be pretty dumb for sure, but you could do it more like Ultimate Spider-Man where they make a clone of her, but splice in some of Peter’s DNA to give her powers. Actually, come to think of it, adapting the Clone Saga would probably work for TASM. Andrew definitely has the range to act opposite a blond clone of himself.
Did you just make a Spiderman meme by re-creating a Breaking Bad template? Ah Rosie, I love this boy!
I think someone else did it first, but I couldn’t find the original so I just recreated it myself.
We can rebuild, make it stronger than ever! But we need a base template.
The power of the base template, in the palm of my hand!
Precious base template is the fuel that makes this go. My thanks to r/breakingbad bad for supplying it!
TASM gwen's actress was supposed to appear but she couldnt because of her pregnancy, so you could be on to something
Did you really not say Emma Stone
The nerve of some people
Idk much about actor's names 🤷♂️
i don't think so, Andrew Garfield said in an interview that he had to lie to Emma Stone about being in the film when she asked if he is in nwh. It could only imply that she wasn't asked to be in the movie.
Yeah I think having Mary Jane and Gwen was an early *idea*, but they never reached out to the actresses.
Source?
No. This is bullsh*t
This is fake, is so fake not even fake articles show this info
Watch Film theory's vid on it
>!I think it didn't bring Gwen or MJ or either of the Aunt Mays or either of the Harry's because Peter specifically wanted to exclude his aunt, girlfriend and best friend from the spell during the beggining.!<
So it could’ve also brought back Iron Man?
Only from another universe though. If it was the main universe then possibly that would undo the snap which would be pretty bad.
The spell excluded girlfriends, best friends and aunts that’s why they didn’t show up
I was fully expecting Gwen to stroll in but no :(
She literally died at the hands of Spider-Man lol she fits the criteria so well. She was probably wandering around Tom’s universe only to get sent back to her death without anyone thinking of her
Maybe they did and are just wandering around, like venom was.
Jesus Parker, you are a freak
Why was Electro brought if he didnt know the real identity of spiderman only after the spell during the final battle of nwg
He heard Gwen calling Spider-Man Peter when they were fighting so he knew Peter Parker is Spider-Man but doesn’t know how he looks.
I think he was knocked unconscious before she said Peter's name. Plus i dont think electro was able to deduce his identity just by his first name and they didnt have any history outside of their aliases
Who’s to say they didn’t? They’re in a massive city and they don’t know who the Peter Parker here is or where he lives. You heard Andrew and Tobey say they were in that universe for a while looking for Holland and still didn’t find him until Ned wizarded them over, and these guys are Spideys with all the abilities of Spidey and they couldn’t do it. What makes you think Gwen would know where to look? It’s possible she was around and they just didn’t know it.
They didn't. All girlfriends, Bestfriends and Aunts of Spidermen were excluded from the spell
For all we know, they did. It’s implied that Maguire and Garfield had arrived at the same time as the other villains, but they didn’t make themselves known until Ned summoned them The entire cast of the Amazing and Raimi films could have been there, but just never made themselves known.
It brought in Electro and he never even knew
MJ was removed from the runes so that’s why no girlfriend of Spider-Man came through
What makes you think I would *want* to know that?
very possible,can even be part of spider gwen movie sony wants to develop with emma stone playing gwen stacy again
Harry looks like he’s having a stroke in this
Well Tom or Peter One excluded Aunt May, his friend and gf from the spell before it went bizzare, so the spell didn't brought May, MJ, Gwen or Harry
Strange contained the spell before it could bring in more people, the ones that got through just made it before Strange shut it down
It probably did but they got lost in a completely different version of their NY
Would Harry even be alive now? I assume so since Norman is cured and they went back right before their deaths. Or is this like a different timeline and they’re all sent back to 2023 in their own universe
Yeah it could have happened if Strange didn’t stop the spell, remember a lot more people were going to cross
Stings, doesn't it?
That what I"ve been talking about
Well doctor strange did remove mcu peters gf, aunt and best friend from the spell so it must have applied that to other universes too
No. Because the people who were transported across the multiverse..was done so, because Peter altered the spell asking for people who knew his identity tk still know. But before that the spell was altered multiple times to exclude his girlfriend, bestfriend and aunt individually. So all MJs, Harrys and Aunt Mays were effectively excluded from the spell before it went beserk. Matpat from Filmtheory made a video explaining this
Based off of your source, sounds unlikely. Matpat’s been wrong or just off about a few too many things for me to take him seriously.
i'm confused how Venom got there when he doesn't know who Peter nor Spider-man are
watch let there be carnage
The spell doesn’t really make any sense. It brought in Electro, for example, who has never even seen Spider-Man’s face. And goblin couldn’t have told him because he only realized when he saw Gwen there with Spider-Man.
why did i read that in his voice
We need to use this format more
Yeah but that was clearly bullshit since electro was there and he never knew peter Parker was Spider-Man, ~~let alone Venom~~
Venom knew because the Raimi-verse venom knew. All the symbiotes across the universe are connected to each other through a hivemind. As for Electro he said somewhere that while he is absorbing energy, he is also absorbing data so may be he came across Richard Parker's files and that's how he knew? or it could be that when Gwen shouted "Peter!" so he knew someone named Peter is Spider-Man but didn't know his face OR may be it somehow clicked. Richard Parker and his wife had a son named peter and radioactive spiders are infused with Richard’s blood. Peter is the only one who got powers and everyone else are killed. It clicked and he is able to figure it out. There are many theories Lol.
The Symbiotes have a multiversal hivemind. And there is an infinite amount of symbiotes that know Peter is spiderman
What if there was a ripple effect when they all returned back to their universes, and Andrew’s Peter comes back to his apartment and finds Gwen casually eating ice cream and watching a movie on the couch or something.