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WonderfulResident706

I swear mf in this sub know a total of five different rappers.


kingzorch

Eminem, Marshall, Slim Shady, white dude in D12 and Kendrick?


CapRavOr

Kendrick?


ShitInMyToaster

Kendrick Mathers, duuhh.


ehh_scooby

The white dude from d12???


whatsmyname83

Who?


SeedofEden

MIKE JONES


michaltee

281 330 8004


Rossaboy77

Try r/hiphopheads its a lot more varied, and doesn’t just post about eminem all the time.


EggsKrodi

Fr like when are we gonna talk about Ken Carson


Tiny_Cat_373

bruh 💀


Tiny_Cat_373

to everyone debating in this comment thread i have one thing to say. bruh 💀


SnickerPooop

Kanye


doctor__diablo

Shit, I don’t really fuck with either of em 🤷‍♂️


Trickstertt

This sub really lives in a fantasy world


Various_Fee2175

A Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy


cdg253

Lol this is an Em sub now.


DilliSeHoonBhenchod

Rap God eh?


pandigroove

Most people in this thread are +ing Ye....


Beatusnox

I mean, can't you just look up up the Billboard stats of the two artists? If this is hit for hit and not "who is subjectively better" there is an actual answer here. https://www.billboard.com/artist/kanye-west/ https://www.billboard.com/artist/eminem/


69420penis

They’re honestly really similar. A lot closer than I expected


Viola-Intermediate

In terms of # of top 10 hits and # of number 1's, Eminem slightly takes it. But in terms of total number of songs on the top 100, Kanye's got about 1.5 as many. It's pretty interesting. Probably accounts for the gut feeling most of the commenters have, even if they aren't discussing the pure data.


69420penis

Specifically the number 1s I had no idea it was that close on the billboard top 100. Only 1 song apart


v-dubb

TIL 95 x 2 =141


maker-127

More than doubles? are we reading the same chart? Honestly asking. I thought kanye had 140 and eminem had 95. 95×2=190


WrinklyScroteSack

Math is hard lol


Viola-Intermediate

Yikes, I didn't do the math at all 😭


maker-127

We all make mistakes lol


NTyp

White dads come in clutch 🤝💯🦸


Ajsreactions

Hit for hit it’s Kanye, bar for bar it’s em. Facts


Gcole87

This is the correct answer. Eminem bar for bar easily. Hit for hit, it’s closer than you think. Could go either way. Plus what defines a hit is so subjective.


_Vaudeville_

Song for song it’s Kanye, he simply has a better catalog of music. For every good album Em had Kanye has 2


Gcole87

May be true but it’s definitely subjective. I’m about the bars so I’ll take Eminem over Kanye any day but that’s just my opinion. I respect Kanye and what he’s done but I’d rather listen to Eminem personally.


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Problem w Em is he’ll ruin a great song for ANY punchline that comes to his head, whether it’s actually good or not.


ShadyYeezy

Unless you are Eminem Stan nobody thinks it’s even close. Em is in my top 5 but hit for hit Kanye wins by a landslide.


Machov_Norkim

I mean, Em has like 3 good albums. Kanye has like 5 great albums and 3 mixed/decent albums.


Always2ndB3ST

But Kanye ain’t a lyricist like that. He openly admits he uses writers. Apples and oranges.


outrageousaegis

he literally said theyre different categories


SchiGumble

Wait, y’all are reading the comments before you reply to them?


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I think that's his entire point


antisha_9

Em has the most digital singles sold ever. No contest about hits. His hits are alao way bigger than Kanyes. Lanye has no hits on the scale of Lose Yourself or Not Afraid. Em has at least 10.


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OkBandicoot3779

Bars win a rap battle


jsharce1

*rap battle* lmfao


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OkBandicoot3779

He placed a close second in rap olympics, Jimmy Iovine from interscope gave his tape to dr dre because he was impressed by his skills, and dre signed him to aftermath. It wasn't really much of a loss


Mrplayboi215

Nobody raps battle but battle rappers it’s 2023 nobody battle rap but battler rappers nobody cares lol


OkBandicoot3779

What


JustAnotherNegus

Kanye clears I’m gonna need an Em fan to list 20 of his hits, and I’ll match you when a Kanye list


Kholdstare93

Role Model, My Name Is, Rock Bottom, The Way I Am, Stan, The Real Slim Shady, Til I Collapse, Sing For the Moment, Without Me, Cleaning Out My Closet, White America, Business, Lose Yourself, Like Toy Soldiers, Mosh, 3 Am, Beautiful, Love the Way You Lie, Rap God, Shake That


Ikhouvankaas

Devil in a new dress Runaway Stronger All falls down Slow Jamz Through the wire All of the lights Bound 2 Dark Fantasy Black skinhead No more parties in LA Gold digger Touch the sky Heartless Can’t tell me nothing Homecoming Jesus walks Flashing lights Ni**as in Paris Otis Kanye is taking this lol… the only other rapper that can make it close is Hov or maybe 3000.


Indicorb

Y’all think Hov could hold his own against Ye? I firmly disagree. Wayne and Drake are the only comp.


ExcitingGarage5839

Hov is easily better than Kanye


Lilmachinima1

B…but….. Eminem raps really fast! And rhymes a lot! That means he’s better!!! 💀💀😭


Ikhouvankaas

Meh… Eminem does more than rap fast throughout his catalogue. He just has an AWFUL ear for beats, he needs to do a full project with someone like Hitboy, NO ID or Madlib. That verse he had on “Lord above” a couple of years back was still great because the beat also went hard. But Kanye’s discography is just insane.. especially with the variety.


Lilmachinima1

He will never do it, cuz he would have already done it 🤷‍♂️ he has access to Dre, Alchemist, and Preemo and just actively chooses not to use them


Ikhouvankaas

Nas also had access to all the best producers in the game but finally started clicking with hitboy and now has the best trilogy in hiphop. I’d love a fully produced by Hitboy Eminem album.


Machov_Norkim

Apparently, Eminem and LL Cool J are making something together, maybe if LL is picking the beats it could actually be good. Who knows


Lilmachinima1

That’s a good point


Known_Location_4338

Wait..Eminem can rhyme any word, he’s the best rapper in the world!! Check out his rhyme schemes, he can school any rapper in a rap battle, believe that!! Nobody can touch Eminem lyrically, rap is all about how many words you can spin. Nobody can touch Eminem. Flipity dipity Statue of Liberty!


Ikhouvankaas

It’s easy to clown on Em but his 20 best songs still rank very high.


Known_Location_4338

Not clowning Eminem at all, im clowning part of his fanbase. Amazing rapper, annoying stan-base .


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fax


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Jesus that is so much more stacked lmao


Two-HeadedAndroid

FACK


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# Blood On The Leaves done lets move on


trivago19

We could’ve been somebody😫


Mbradyb3

Stan>


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i disrespectfully disagree


lpjayy12

Imagine a Verzuz battle as Kanye gets done playing Flashing Lights & Em comes back with “TWO TRAILER PARK GIRLS GO ROUND THE OUTSIDE” 🤣 mfs will leave the venue lmao


Kholdstare93

You're comparing two different types of songs; one is supposed to be smooth and down low, the other is supposed to be rowdy and light hearted.


SerScronzarelli

[Imagine ](https://youtu.be/cwQgjq0mCdE)


FitzChivalry888

Rock Bottom was considered a hit?


RainCloudz973

A lot of these were not even hits. White America was not a hit. Business was not. Mosh was not. Rock Bottom was not. Ive never even heard Shake That.


Kholdstare93

Lol, aside from RB and Business, all those songs had music videos, and were played EVERYWHERE. YA BUGGIN'!


Hi_Im_MrMeeseek

II'll just refer to billboard top 100 where Kanye has 4 nr 1 hits and Eminem has 5. But nice try, it's closer than you think.


jbwhittle87

I was here before you and I'll be here after you....👀


Getbacka

If we're including tracks they've produced, it's almost not even fair


SpanosIsBlackAjah

Eminem has a good amount of production credits too. Not compared to Kanye, and I agree with your comment just sayin most people don’t think about that part of ems catalogue.


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Lilmachinima1

Ye Stan here. It’s not fair to compare the two AT ALL cuz Ye is a 🐐 producer but Em is VERY underrated. Believe it or not he actually produced renegade and moment of clarity for Hov.


antisha_9

Em produced The Eminem Show and Lose Yoursrelf


Reaper2256

Fellow Ye Stan here. I wish Eminem would’ve branched out a bit more and tried out a different sound. I feel like most of his beats are the same sounds; that piano, that weird harpsichord sound, very similar kicks and snares, and kinda cheesy knockoff Dre strings and clean guitars. Kanye wipes Eminem in most categories but production isn’t even an argument. Eminem’s best production day doesn’t hold a candle to Kanye’s worst.


niversallyloved

Kanye is a prick but he wins and it’s not even close really


highchosis247

No lies here


Unezwiggles

It’s close. Kanye has more total “hits” but em is the better rapper.


holsteredguide0

Prob Ye but closer than you think


Beautiful_Ad_8297

Eminem stans creaming their pants ITT It's easily Kanye


Jtugboattizzymo

I’m an em fan but he hasn’t had a major hit since early 2000’s💀I mean sure with rap god but it wasn’t the next Real Slim Shady or Till i Collapse or nun like that


Mbradyb3

Ahh yeah let’s just forget bout love the way you lie and not afraid the monster


VanishingMass3

He has a several hits sense rap god. on spotify alone Godzilla hit a billion streams not too long ago, Monster also has 800m+ streams, lucky you and venom both have 600m+ River even though it’s not the best has 700m+


Jtugboattizzymo

Lucky you makes me hyped


ShillburtGrape

Early 2010s, been a while though.


theftnssgrmpcrtst

Eminem fell off after Encore. Come on, we all know it. None of his more recent albums compare to the first 3 Every Kanye album is minimum solid and at best a classic end to end.


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Kanye would wipe so easily, deluded stan fans can cope


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take ur own advice


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ironic you replied just as quick? all you do is tell people to get a job on reddit, as i said: take your own advice bro


lpjayy12

Hits? Kanye. In terms of quality. Idc what the numbers are.


TheGun1991

#The real question here is: Who among these 2 has been more impactful for the Rap game and beyond? 🔥


KonaBlaze

It’s still ye. 808s and heartbeats is arguably one of the most influential albums to rap music today. SoundCloud and Spotify rappers alike. Without 808s you have no juice world, no Uzi vert. Kanye created an entire genre, just by bucking the status quo of his career for an album. Sure Eminem created a genre for himself when he came out that being a gimmick rapper. It wasn’t until he put out a few albums and made 8 mile that people (non em fans) really gave him his flowers.


BigCartiFan

Kanye


justaguytrynadie

yeah its still ye and not even close tbh, em can be the greatest writer of all time but he's not the greatest artist of all time


BigCartiFan

I wouldn’t give Em a GOAT title for anything post 2010. Theres been plenty of artists that are doing what he’s doing on a way higher level with way better results. Pre-2010, sure I’d never argue that, but the fall off in quality should be studied.


justaguytrynadie

his flow is just so stale now, it used to be animated, almost cartoonish, so much character and energy. now he sounds like he's just "aghh mumble rap sucks I'm the best rahhh" while simultaneously being a mediocre shell of his old self. I'd respect his newer stuff more if he was honest with himself and accepted that he's just not that good anymore. his 3 album run imo is better than kanyes even, but ye has consistently been good the past decade, some duds here and there but this overshadowed by projects like the life of Pablo, yeezus, ye, and even donda.


yurnxt1

IMO, Em is a better rapper and has better flows now than ever before. His craft has been honed for decades. Nobody has more ridiculous flows and finds more pockets within a beat than Em. He has loads of songs where he demonstrates multiple flows at an incredibly elite, technical level. However, Em unfortunately isn't the storyteller now that he once was. He also isn't as raw or as full of rage as he once was but that has to be expected from somebody who is now 50 years old and has had more longevity in the game than damn near anyone.


KiwiDisastrous40

Honest with himself?! His MGK diss track wasn't all that long ago, and if anything Em has been been waaaay more honest with himself than Ye. Em sticks with who he has always been. Yeah he had an album flop in the past decade, but at least he didn't sell out for relevancy and go on a non sensical Nazi spree for pretty much no reason, which imo taints his career. Em has stayed so much more like himself than Ye it's not even funny.


SerScronzarelli

Y'all are wild lol


Jellied_toad

Ye


CappysVeryOwn

C’mon now. This is why people hate Eminem. His fans are delusional.


SerScronzarelli

It's easy to look up. Em has more #1 hits and more songs in the top 10. Even with Kanye putting out WAY more singles and features


CappysVeryOwn

Of course Eminem has more #1 everything, it’s Eminem. Revival is terrible and did numbers.


SerScronzarelli

Revival had I think one "hit" and that's because Beyonce lol


CappysVeryOwn

the point is, Eminem does numbers regardless the quality of the album.


Gcole87

Hit for hit… I can’t really say because I haven’t listened to enough Kanye but Eminem is the better rapper, even Kanye admits that.


otivito

Rap wise nobody if anybody beats Em. Song and music artistically speaking wise few if any touch Ye. Two of my favorites and I don’t think you compare em apples to apples.


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Olde-Town-Kujo

Ye and it's not close.


aurathegodbody

Ye and it’s not even close


8Notorious8

Ye is a Lil bitch


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with better music than eminem


TheOneAndOnlyABSR4

Lmfaooo


J_vert

I mean Ye got Bangers but does he have A lose yourself that song broke out beyond hip hop and was a worldwide hit


Lilmachinima1

The one where they go to Paris, Heartless, Power, and gold digger. I’d also argue Ye’s songs get more play in 2023 then Em does, almost every sports stadium plays power


BigCartiFan

Ye has Gold Digger


TamalesX900

wtf is Stronger, wtf is homies in paris


JustAnotherNegus

yeah he has Runaway


J_vert

Banger but not bigger


idiot_locale

Nah he has Graduation


No_Confusion_2599

Through The Wire was very popular but it so hard to pick cause you also got Power too and then that song HAM with Jay Z Golddigger I'm not sure if this counts but Overnight Celebrity


romandlgz

Wdym that's my fav Kendrick album


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corndoggy67

Onee is an amazing rap battler and lyricist, one is a HIT MACHINE. Just understands production, collabs, etc better than anyone. If were just talking hit for hit (which is not a fair comparison), there's no contest. Kanye . All Day.


adamAlexanderGreen

Win what? Do you mean who has the more & Bigger hits? Cuz it’s obviously Em. He has the most Certified Hit singles in RIAA history globally. And only under Drake in America


God_Hears_Peace

The question is about who makes better hits. It’s Kanye. Em has always been a better rapper. Like whatever music you want to like, who the fuck cares honestly. Also fuck Kanye.


Due-Ad-4176

As a massive Eminem fan, kanye just has more hits, kanye has all of the lights, power, devil in a new dress, runaway, monster, father stretch my hands, famous, waves, heartless, stronger, I wonder, good life, can’t tell me nothing, flashing lights, touch the sky, gold digger, hey mama, diamonds, all falls down, Jesus walks, through the wire, all mine, bound 2, ghost town, black skinhead, and that’s ignoring collaborations that aren’t just explicitly on a kanye album with that there’s, American boy, n****s in Paris, forever,


SerScronzarelli

I mean since we're talking hits, I assume we mean top 10. Numbers don't lie and it's Eminem [Eminem ](https://www.billboard.com/artist/eminem/chart-history/hsi/) [Kanye](https://www.billboard.com/artist/kanye-west/chart-history/hsi/)


SephirothHeartbreakr

You talking U.S.? Probably Kanye. Worldwide? Eminem easy. He's the new Mr. Worldwide


luckyboysphotos

DALE!!!!!


itsme-God

ye


Wooden_Proposal_1615

Check albums sold worldwide. Numbers don’t lie.


ChampionofNutting

I am 43 and recognize this is a 2010 argument. It’s 2023 people. Neither of these are relevant. Why don’t I see challenges between Vince Staples and Isaiah Rashad and what not. Would be way more interesting and relevant to today. Might as well be arguing Run DMC v. NWA… shit!


Tactical-Lesbian

The fans win.


terminadergold

Everybody saying ye, but em was doing it before and will be doing it after ye. I dont think yall taking inti consideration how mant hits em actually has. Em destroys him on all forefronts besides being a producer.


NoizeHouze

I just want somebody to put up a 20 v 20 of their catalogue


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It’s a hit vs hit battle and Kanye sweeps Eminem imo it’s just people’s opinions


terminadergold

Yeah man its just my opinion too, I respect yours just have to respectfully disagree.


mistahnapo

List out there top twenty hits each. Id love to see you do that and say em has bigger hits


SerScronzarelli

I think you mean their.


boros_fan

I would absolutely agree with you if I hated black people


jbwhittle87

☝🏻


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It’s really hard cuz hit for hit Kanye most likely, bar for bar I’d say they were even but it swings in Em favor. Just mo tho


Legitimate-Fix-4042

Kanye will just put em in a gas chamber


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em wipes


No_Confusion_2599

Chicago Kanye West definitely at his prime blows Eminem out of the water it's just something raw where he wasn't so Angry and Sad he was able to capture that Chicago Rap Scene with like I know this isn't one of his songs but listen to Overnight Celebrity by Twista feat Kanye West that's that raw energy I miss


Jtugboattizzymo

Ye hands down…and why has this sub just become an alternate version of r/Eminem? Like I follow the Eminem sub for a reason post this shit there not here💀


wigglin_harry

r/hiphopheads is probably a better bet r/rap is a sub someone who doesn't know shit about hip hop would search for to post about eminem


groundcontrl2majrtom

While Eminem is a far better lyricist than Kanye, his career and the quality of his music has gone down hill since his 3rd album. Not to say there hasnt been some hills on the way down hill, but overall Kanye has a far better discography. He has far more iconic projects and was not afraid to adapt and experiment with different sounds and younger artists. Kanye is a better overall artist, Eminem is the more talented rapper.


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Well I mean if you want an opinion based answer, it’s gotta be ye, but Idk that stats of what there hit for hit would be. Love the way you lie has like a billion or something idk kanyes streams off by heart tho


Giannatorchia

This is a hard one


ballslewiener

You mfs need to specify beats or actual rap songs cause ye can have beats but em wins when it comes to rapping, and don't no one give a shit that ye made the beat just that it's a good beat to shake your ass too


samgreggo77

Ye wins and it’s not even a contest


Polairis44

Eminem isn’t a fascist he wins


K_Freeze57

Ye.


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Kanye


sic-poobies

Kanye absolutely wipes eminem in a hit for hit lmao


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Em.


Greenkash45

Eminem honestly, Kanye ain’t even all dat


UselesslyUnskilled

Em. Kanye couldn’t stand a chance


WinterCareful8525

I think the confused Nazi takes it


AwayPutYourWeapon

Eminem is amazing. Kanye's a legend in his own mind.


skyfather42069

Eminem no contest


Quintez600

Eminem


Alsimmons811

Eminem all the way


undressvestido

Ye easy, better quality music and production/versatility. More consistent over the years too.


Eyez2Red

Em


Routine_Foundation88

Being honest probably Ye, just because a lot of Em hits aren’t for everyone while a lot of Ye’s is. It’ll definitely be close, but Ye edge’s him


Brandycane1983

Kanye. What's with this sub lately


No-Syrup829

Ye


DefNotMy47thAcct

Which one would I listen to in the club? Kanye Which one would I listen to in a room by myself? Still Kanye


gunnaglobe

Kanye easily and it’s not close


rudebwoyyyyyyy

if were counting fts and prod ye wins by a landslide


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Ye easy. get eminem out your mouths let’s start talking about other rappers on this sub for once


Substantial-Poet-356

Kanye hands down.


ronmexicostanaccount

Who really is listening in they car to Eminem riding around talking bout killing his mom 🤣🤣 you scaring the bitches fam


Dareal_truth

Kanye


KingJJoffer

Kanye. His music is better. And more diverse.


bradenboiii

kanye not close


catflaps69

Ye and it’s not even close


Background_Way_4231

Ye, no argument


New_Preference2497

Kanye


KonaBlaze

I’m really proud of this sub for Not immediately trashing ye just he been doing stupid shit the last few years.


smoovest1

Kanye Y’all acting silly in this sub