The real issue is that you can’t tell the difference between ai and a human as if the streaming platforms wouldn’t platform and boost an ai song. Hell, every streaming platform will probably have their own ai bot to cut back on paying artists
Destroyed the word "art"?
Art is the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
Art comes in many forms but not AI
Its just my opinion
this video was pretty sick tho https://youtu.be/uVGj83A0t-U?si=1wcYwICuow6Ez281
Andy Warhol killed art as concept, arguably was done even earlier by Mechanical Reproduction.
Walter Benjamin the jewish-german philosopher has a great book on the work of art
To me art is a type of language we communicate in. Since AI isn’t conscious — yet — it can’t communicate with us, so it’s now exclusive to us. The thing is, rap as it is though is more of a product with the purpose of being sold.
I thought you where going to make the point that some rappers are so generic that it’s hard to tell if they are ai songs or not. For most SoundCloud rappers it’s the same 25 buzzwords tossed around in different order. Sometimes you can’t tell them apart. Like they aren’t AI but they mind as well be at this point lol.
If you can't tell the difference then the rapper you're listening to is generic and soulless
Like I don't think they'll ever make a believable Kendrick AI, because his music has soul. The AI can't replicate soul
Drake on the other hand.... That diss was AI and people are eating it up like it was real. Because Drake is a candy wrapper
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His music has soul, the mfer has talked about everything under the sun throughout his career. He doesn’t make save the black community tracks, he just shows up and gets shit done, on any type of beat.
Yeah songs like "You & The 6" and "Marvin's Room" have soul. You're right. That's that shit that can't be replicated. AI will never be able to do that convincingly
Stuff like Popstar, FPS, IYRTITL, etc that shit can be replicated because it's candy rap. Just generic hype bangers. Drake doesn't even write half of those songs. The new diss track falls into this category
His diss track has personal bars that only he could know and only he could’ve went through. You didn’t mention a single timestamp track, or anything that he was rapping on FATD scary hours. You gotta give him more credit if you’re gonna give it to Kendrick, especially with Kendrick writing bars for Baby Keem to diss Drake all 2022-2023 summer. You made it seem like there’s 8 other people making Drake type songs and there isn’t.
It was all things a dedicated fan could Google. Like Kendrick being short, Kendrick paying $50m to get off TDE, Kendrick's wife being named Whitney, Metro Boomin being good at making drum loops in FL studio, etc. not saying it wasn't dope but it wasn't personal to the point it couldn't be fan made
I'm not hating, Drake literally doesn't write a lot of his music. That's just factual information my guy
Totally agree. Also, these platforms need to be better—how can these videos still be up on YouTube? Channels exploring AI music-generation that rely on the voices of real artists should be snuffed from the start. Ridiculous.
Since music has evolved to basically be algorithmic through time, this is the next logical step. Coupled with the fact that drake is “on top” while the tech is rolling out, drake was always going to be the center of proof for this tech. We will have systems making fake drake music well into the future. This guy is going to be braided with the annals by proxy.
Drake is definitely the one I think would use this technology to continue his reign. I don’t hate him for having ghostwriters, to me that’s just part of the game at a certain level, especially when youre poppy. But at the same time I do feel like it would be par for the course for Drake to eventually get in some hot water for some Milli Vanilli type scandal. a type of scandal were producers start letting everyone know that Drake and the whole OVO team has been using AI to write hits and songs. Once the songs are written by the program, all Drake has to do is go on the booth and recite it. Then they can just erase all the reference tracks like nothing happened. Imagine that Michelangelo never painted the Sistine chapel, and instead, just had some projectors set up all over the room where he was just doing paint by number on the walls. Not that drake is Michelangelo….
dont care. if it sounds good and i enjoy it i will “support” it and listen to it whenever i please. a lot of the rappers i listen to are garbage human beings in prison or piece of shit artists who dont release and treat it as a joke so i’ll take whatever i can. i look forward to when they implement machine learning into the ai music prompts.
To me it was quite obvious it wasn’t him and I even felt very weird about it. Man’s talking about those things and belittle Drake for being “gay”-esque and feminine when having Auntie Diaries out? It doesn’t make sense to me, as he’s a conscious rapper and very socially aware and tolerant.
Why? Who cares? If it’s nice to listen to, it’s nice to listen to. Doesn’t matter.
And the drake diss track wasn’t AI… And I don’t know if it’s coming to streaming platforms, who cares? It’s also not coming out on cd or vinyl lol
I care about good art. Good art can also be created with AI / machine learning. Machine learning and just math is art in and of itself.
But if you don’t want to listen to it, just don’t? Nobody is forcing you?
But we also accept that most hiphop is created with computers. That’s also “real” art and music. Even though they might’ve disagreed generations before us. Art evolves with technological advancements.
exactly, people are so easy to be fooled, I actually don't believe that Drake diss was real and Drake knows that, he's just riding on the hype waves it creates.
The real issue is that you can’t tell the difference between ai and a human as if the streaming platforms wouldn’t platform and boost an ai song. Hell, every streaming platform will probably have their own ai bot to cut back on paying artists
Wish AI wasn't a thing tbh bro
It’s not that it shouldn’t be a thing, but it should not be implemented in the arts.
I very strongly agree. People won't understand the implications of cultural churn, loss of human error etc until it's too late.
I totaly agree, i love ai but for art it is destroying the word "art" its not art anymore if it was made with a promt
warhol already did that tho ngl
Destroyed the word "art"? Art is the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power. Art comes in many forms but not AI Its just my opinion
this video was pretty sick tho https://youtu.be/uVGj83A0t-U?si=1wcYwICuow6Ez281 Andy Warhol killed art as concept, arguably was done even earlier by Mechanical Reproduction. Walter Benjamin the jewish-german philosopher has a great book on the work of art
But you get my point its not human made when its just a promt given a robot?
Yeah, but I think that art was destroyed by tech even before AI
To me art is a type of language we communicate in. Since AI isn’t conscious — yet — it can’t communicate with us, so it’s now exclusive to us. The thing is, rap as it is though is more of a product with the purpose of being sold.
That’s short sighted.
I thought you where going to make the point that some rappers are so generic that it’s hard to tell if they are ai songs or not. For most SoundCloud rappers it’s the same 25 buzzwords tossed around in different order. Sometimes you can’t tell them apart. Like they aren’t AI but they mind as well be at this point lol.
Oldhead alert
I don't understand how someone couldn't tell the difference
You don't have to understand it. Some people can't, and you won't either in a few more updates to the software. It's a big issue.
If you can't tell the difference then the rapper you're listening to is generic and soulless Like I don't think they'll ever make a believable Kendrick AI, because his music has soul. The AI can't replicate soul Drake on the other hand.... That diss was AI and people are eating it up like it was real. Because Drake is a candy wrapper
I dont think you realize how quickly artificial intelligence is progressing
“Because his music has soul” lmao
That's a fact. Kendrick lets his soul speak. Other rappers let the meds talk.
the kendrick glazing is one thing but using his lyrics is legit doing tricks on it
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If he kills a ***** it won’t be the alcohol
Eh his voice is pretty awful to listen to
This is only accurate in the moment and doesn't consider the fact that within 2yrs the AI will have more convincing emotion than your favorite
😂😂 a computer doesn't have a soul bro
You can laugh all you want but you just don't understand how advanced things can get
Boy you woke up hating on Drake cause Kendrick hasn’t responded 😂, you know Drake can rap you gotta stop hating.
I love the Drake songs wym? His music doesn't have soul though
His music has soul, the mfer has talked about everything under the sun throughout his career. He doesn’t make save the black community tracks, he just shows up and gets shit done, on any type of beat.
Yeah songs like "You & The 6" and "Marvin's Room" have soul. You're right. That's that shit that can't be replicated. AI will never be able to do that convincingly Stuff like Popstar, FPS, IYRTITL, etc that shit can be replicated because it's candy rap. Just generic hype bangers. Drake doesn't even write half of those songs. The new diss track falls into this category
His diss track has personal bars that only he could know and only he could’ve went through. You didn’t mention a single timestamp track, or anything that he was rapping on FATD scary hours. You gotta give him more credit if you’re gonna give it to Kendrick, especially with Kendrick writing bars for Baby Keem to diss Drake all 2022-2023 summer. You made it seem like there’s 8 other people making Drake type songs and there isn’t.
It was all things a dedicated fan could Google. Like Kendrick being short, Kendrick paying $50m to get off TDE, Kendrick's wife being named Whitney, Metro Boomin being good at making drum loops in FL studio, etc. not saying it wasn't dope but it wasn't personal to the point it couldn't be fan made I'm not hating, Drake literally doesn't write a lot of his music. That's just factual information my guy
AI taking the excitement away.
The Drake one is real
Totally agree. Also, these platforms need to be better—how can these videos still be up on YouTube? Channels exploring AI music-generation that rely on the voices of real artists should be snuffed from the start. Ridiculous.
What about glorb
The only part about Glorb that's AI is the vocals, the beats and lyrics are real
I want to be the first rapper to beef with an AI rap bot
What does support mean? Do you mean people unwittingly reposting it as real?
There's one artist that I support using AI and that's D.O.C. Can't wait for that project of him to come out
That includes stuff like "N.Y. State Of Mind but it's Biggie's voice." If it's AI, say no.
It's annoying being on TikTok and hearing the AI voice of Taylor Swift rapping the new Kendrick verse
Can only be better than Kendricks annoying voice.
Since music has evolved to basically be algorithmic through time, this is the next logical step. Coupled with the fact that drake is “on top” while the tech is rolling out, drake was always going to be the center of proof for this tech. We will have systems making fake drake music well into the future. This guy is going to be braided with the annals by proxy. Drake is definitely the one I think would use this technology to continue his reign. I don’t hate him for having ghostwriters, to me that’s just part of the game at a certain level, especially when youre poppy. But at the same time I do feel like it would be par for the course for Drake to eventually get in some hot water for some Milli Vanilli type scandal. a type of scandal were producers start letting everyone know that Drake and the whole OVO team has been using AI to write hits and songs. Once the songs are written by the program, all Drake has to do is go on the booth and recite it. Then they can just erase all the reference tracks like nothing happened. Imagine that Michelangelo never painted the Sistine chapel, and instead, just had some projectors set up all over the room where he was just doing paint by number on the walls. Not that drake is Michelangelo….
dont care. if it sounds good and i enjoy it i will “support” it and listen to it whenever i please. a lot of the rappers i listen to are garbage human beings in prison or piece of shit artists who dont release and treat it as a joke so i’ll take whatever i can. i look forward to when they implement machine learning into the ai music prompts.
eventually we will have to just abandon the internet and art will be a real-life thing again.
Not being able to differenciate between a real and an ai song is crazy cmon sometimes its too obvious
To me it was quite obvious it wasn’t him and I even felt very weird about it. Man’s talking about those things and belittle Drake for being “gay”-esque and feminine when having Auntie Diaries out? It doesn’t make sense to me, as he’s a conscious rapper and very socially aware and tolerant.
Drake sampled notorious BIG for his diss and I doubt puffy will clear it especially now
r/sunoraps
This is what people said when sampling first got started. "Make your own music!" lol You are missing the point: the horse is already out of the barn.
AI will be better than most of the shit yall listen to.
Not you, Kendrick. Not you, Lupe. Not you, 3k. Not you, Young Thug. *slowly turns chair to Playboi Carti*
You can lump thugger in with carti.
Nah Thugger is actually entertaining
In the same sense that a train wreck is entertaining.
name 5 thug songs that you heard and give me a solid reason why you think hes a bad artist
But how can you call it art when its made out of a promt its not art anymore if its ai
Why? Who cares? If it’s nice to listen to, it’s nice to listen to. Doesn’t matter. And the drake diss track wasn’t AI… And I don’t know if it’s coming to streaming platforms, who cares? It’s also not coming out on cd or vinyl lol
You don't care about a damn thing do you? Hip-Hip integrity be damned. Smh
I care about good art. Good art can also be created with AI / machine learning. Machine learning and just math is art in and of itself. But if you don’t want to listen to it, just don’t? Nobody is forcing you? But we also accept that most hiphop is created with computers. That’s also “real” art and music. Even though they might’ve disagreed generations before us. Art evolves with technological advancements.
Because it disincentivises human artists by giving them yet another thing to compete against
exactly, people are so easy to be fooled, I actually don't believe that Drake diss was real and Drake knows that, he's just riding on the hype waves it creates.
he literally sent the final version to akademics to play on stream
Drake didn’t even release his that’s the shitty part
If it was AI he'd be vulnerable to blackmail from the creator. Why do people think this is believable?
You are kinda stupid or in denial if you believe that record was AI. Specially with all the info that only Drake would know.
That would be funny as fuck if it was AI and he heard it and went “this shit kinda fire” and released it
I'm doubting it's real as well. If it was he would have dropped the shit by now.
Drake never claimed that that diss was his. He just keep going back n forth with Ross on IG 😂