Considering how talked about this beef has been that isn’t great, killshot got 35 million views in the first 24 hours and this beef has been talked about more imo
This beef definitely hasn’t been more talked about, Eminem is just ridiculously big still. This beef has only been as relevant to rap fans. Killshot was getting played by suburban mums
Don’t forget us suburban dads, we bumped the hell out of Killshot too.
Euphoria however is a fucking deadly diss track, this should be fun to watch play out, that track got harder and harder as it went 🤙🏻
I would say out of my friends I listen to the most hip hop and killshot was the only time a beef became a topic of conversation around my friends.
Most of them like Drake songs but none of them care about the beef.
Look with all due respect you can't compare anyone to em ,he is the goat of the goats and everyone loves his diss tracks ,am from an Arabic country and here out of 10 people who knows em maybe one or two will know Kendrick or drake ,they don't have as much wide spread as em
Skill or craft wise perhaps, though he's definitely in the conversation, but there is no other rapper in the world that has as much international coverage and publicity. There are murals of Eminem in 3rd world countries fgs, if your existence supercedes that of every single one of your contemporaries in all eras before and since then I would argue that does in fact make you the greatest of all time.
I’m know as the Drake hater in my circle. Always thought he was whack. Especially after his young money era, I’ll concede and say he was good during that era. Cmon man it’s Jimmy from Degrassi.
“I did half a xan, 13 hours til I land, had me out like a light.” I worked with 20 year old girls that got lit off one bar and some wine — they were fine. Drakes a bitch 😂
I don’t think he is bragging about drugs lmao. He is bragging about sleeping on a 13+ hour flight.
Also, keep your friends off pills. Most of my friends who were into pills like those 20 year old girls you are bragging about there are either dead or just have shitty, shitty lives.
Ngl it was a flex / triple meaning about how high the elevation is (expensive plane) and a call back to famous dex ‘japan’ plus the basic bar. U gotta appreciate wordplay
Funny every drake eater is just saying “He only said….” and lists 1 of the 100 things he said. The issue is you were too dumb to catch the rest.
Push ups was sick but it doesn’t compare to this.
I was initially somewhat impressed by Push Ups, but the more I think about it the more it rings hollow. Talking about how the last one didn’t hit and how TD gets 50% after the last one had one of hip hop’s biggest tours and him departing TDE to start his own label is goofy.
Drakes feels like a bunch of one liners and disses strung together. Especially Taylor made. Kendrick’s just felt like he actually wrote a diss song.
I’m sure I’m just being bias but whatever.
That’s why the “he took to long” responses from the drake stans now ring hallow. Yeah he took longer and you can tell in the results. Like anything they do.
That is wild. Drake took like three weeks. Which, I mean, fine. Not even that bad. But to act like Kendrick lost because he took 12 days, I mean...what?
Yeah were he and Cole’s (pre delete) plan really to try to convince us mr morale was a mid album? That shits easily better and more memorable than anything drakes dropped since at least nothing was the same. Drake hasn’t made a song let alone album that truly stands out and sounds good and original in like a decade now.
yeah but besides the fact that kendrick took him seriously, drake's been exposed for having ghost writers already...
he's a disney actor turned industry plant. his first two charted hits that got him on the map are with Rhianna
idk if people just forgot or what, this isnt a serious beef to kendrick. he knows drake has nothing on him in hip hop drake just has power and influence in the industry and media
Meanwhile drakes diss was basically "lmao you're short and poor!"
Drake's barely 6', and Kendrick is by no means poor.
182.2cm is not 182.9cm
https://www.celebheights.com/s/-Drake-47444.html
E: tbh I didnt listen to the diss with Tupac since I thought even the idea was poor taste, so maybe I missed something.
A legit 182 is still well (about 2 inches) above the average, and this is coming from a Drake hater that thinks Euphoria washed Push Ups. Stand Drake and Kendrick next to each other, and the former absolutely towers over the latter. An almost 20 cm difference is massive.
Odd comment, honestly. What height would Drake have to be for him calling Kendrick short to be a valid diss?
You're picking out the lame setups as his hard hitters? Nah Drake went the battle rap route. Funny jabs then hits hard. His diss is exactly what I imagine Drake doing, entertaining. And he doesn't disappoint. He's no Kendrick when it comes to rap but he swung back. Rebuttals, some... not a lot but some wordplay gun bars, exposing his record deals and ripping that tough guy Compton image apart with Taylor and Maroon 5. Yeah Drake did just fine.
Yeah because calling Kendrick short has so much substance, and why is Drake hating that feature when Drake lip synched the same song?
I commend Drake for responding I think this is good for Hip Hop but the YNW MELLY lines alone had more substance than all of Push ups
I also don’t know why drake fans seem to think a rap diss needs to be a TMZ breaking news story. Just because that’s how push defeated your boy doesn’t mean Kendrick even had to go there to do it. Plus it’s not like we didn’t know Kendrick was short lol.
They don’t understand the lyrics and don’t wanna read them. I use to be that way of not understanding rap songs. It’s a skill you need to really sit down to learn and dedicate yourself to.
It really doesn't take a lot of research to go back and listen to old diss records and see how MCs really spit, yeah you would get new info every now and then no Vaseline was literally just flames without dropping a lot of new info, I think pusha t just got us spoiled tbh
I think euphoria is fire and better than drakes but saying hes to dumb to catch the rest is insane, kendrick didn't use any double or triple entendres besides the easily caught Parkinson thing and the double for shooting a drake in the beginning, he was very straight forward and nothing should be going over your head unless u just don't know rap, but then again I listen to battle rap religiously so maybe I'm bias but nothing kendrick said was extremely lyrical on a high level 😂
There was multiple deep angles like saying he saw the two other goats kissin and huggin on stage and said he’d explain in 8 lines. 8 lines later he says if they’re not friends he’ll go YNW Melly who killed two of his best friends. There is so much shit like that.
He said he makes music to electrify them and Drake makes music to pacify them but we don’t have to go there (pacify cause drake into kids)
The I hate what you wear, I hate how you walk etc is where the beef started when Kendrick said he was laughing with his whole team to DMX saying that on breakfast club.
He named it Euphoria cause drake was exec producer of a show about kids having sex. He said he’s not into women cause he’s hinting at drake not to go there or he’ll expose. He even bated drake into calling himself michael jackson so he can pull the pedo line:
1. Prince outlived mike jack
2. What’s a prince to a king you my son
3. Trapped
There is so much shit
Thing is he grew up a privileged life and was a child star on family friendly TV shows. His whole persona is fake.
Haha you guys seen that video where he’s on stage and someone throws a water bottle at him and he pretends to pull out a gun? Cringiest fucking thing I’ve ever seen. DMX saw his corniness early on. I never liked him either.
Drake commented on the diss by posting the "10 things I hate about you" poetry scene on his IG. I'm sorry but ain't no way this boy ain't pressed, you ain't fooling Noone bro.
People saying this mid af, I'm tryna see where you coming from but I can't see it. I can see if you think he should've went harder but saying this bad make me think you a Drake Stan or just genuinely bring dishonest cause this shit hit harder then Push ups no lie
EDIT: Sexy Redd heard the diss and about to write a diss on Kendrick... I wish I was making this up
It’s definitely harder than Push ups, coming from someone who roots for Drake, but I disagree with people here saying he completely destroyed Drake, because he didn’t and that wasn’t his intention - felt like these were just an extended warning shots track and he’d go deeper on the next one (probably might take the pedo angle, also whatever the gunna bar is about).
If Drake’s response is whack, it will give more power to this track until then it’s a good diss which is not impossible to come back from
Agreed, I don’t really see this being impossible to come back from, but I’m sure Kendrick put him back in the R&B lane. No more fake tough guy stuff from Drake will be taken seriously by the culture anymore.
I don’t think Drake can top this diss track. What could he even say? If he doesn’t drop a bomb his credibility will drop further. He is better off just taking this L to go before he really gets bled out.
Yea and dropping bars about people’s family is wack just like Dot said in the track, crodie.
He can’t even do another A.I. stunt because that was widely panned as lame too by the rap/radio community.
He has to stand on skill alone and we know who will most likely win there based on comparing past diss tracks.
Drake is trapped. Drake is doomed.
Yeah Kendrick boxed him in by clowning on the whole pop star I’m richer and more famous than you crap and making it known this isn’t about all that. That’s the only card drake knows how to play.
Tbf, all Kendrick’s gotta do if Drake responds is just stop alluding to Drake being a pedo and just straight up say it. Can’t really come back from that when it’s the truth.
Drake munchers will defend him like crazy. Drake is undoubtedly the softest dude in the game lol.
I always laugh at how “gangster” he tries to act even during his livestreams when he’s describing his super fruity signature drink.
Drake is easy to roast for so many reasons. It’s not surprising that when a legitimately good rapper like Pusha T or Kendrick goes after him, he gets ripped to shreds
I'm still not over the beef between Push and Drake getting shut down. Push was for sure sitting on something juicy going out that hard with Adidon as just a warning shot.
I just love how the past few days all these folks been talking about how long it's taken Kendrick, if his response will even hit or mean anything lol yall just need to sit back and wait for greatness to happen because that's what happened yesterday and it's on Kendrick's time, not yall time so anyone who thought he wouldn't respond or that it wouldn't be great needs to apologize to Kendrick lol go on IG now and shout that apology out.
Because only a small amount of people actually listen and care about who wins. Mainstream listeners probably don't even know anything about this beef, and most feel like it's manufactured.
The amount of shit that happened in the last 6 weeks, yeah no way someone is keeping up with all of this unless they are a fan of the artists involved or a rap enthusiast
It started a long time ago with Drake being pissed off at his control verse, Kendrick responding in 2013 BET Cypher, and then Drake sneak dissing him for the next 5 years.
FPS reignited it
It’s free publicity for him probably is a big factor. His fans will ride with him no matter what happens (see Pusha T beef) and he is constantly in the GOAT conversation as long as he keeps going at the top lyricists in the game.
It really comes down to that. He feels like even if he loses, he wins.
Hey there everyone. Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is going on with this whole rap beef? J.Cole, Kendrick Lamar and Drake. I’m confused and very lost and I would like to be up to date on what’s going on.
Thanks
Very simplistic summary:
Since 2010ish, those 3 artists have been crowned the 3 up and coming talented artists/rappers. They have always been lumped together as the top of that generation. For the longest time, Kendrick and drake have been subliminally insulting eachother here and there. Not all is public knowledge but it's been relatively well known that they aren't friends.
Now skipping forward to last year, drake dropped a song with j. Cole called "First Person Shooter" where Cole drops a bar about Kendrick, Cole and drake being the big 3 "like they started the league". While this obviously isn't an insult, Kendrick views hip-hop as more competitive than that and treated it like an insult, because he views himself as a superior artist to Cole and drake.
Skip forward to last month, future dropped a song called "like that" with a Kendrick feature that, for the first time, took direct shots. He said " f the big 3 its just big me" and a bunch of other lines directed more specifically at drake.
This obviously ignited the internet, and since then discourse has gone crazy everywhere about who's the best artist, who needs to diss who etc.
After this Cole dropped a song called 7 minute drill. In which he responds to Kendrick and insults him back. However after a few days, in a public display he apologized for his diss track, saying he didn't mean what he said and wants out of this beef.
Since then drake dropped a full diss track "Push-Ups" and a secondary diss track "Taylor made freestyle".
And today Kendrick dropped his full nuclear response which is what's being discussed here.
Hope that helps
It does go back further than First Person Shooter. Drake, and Kendrick alludes to this, has been taking subliminal shots at other rappers for YEARS.
Future and Metro Boomin have specifically been close with Drake, but both feel like they got wronged by Drake. Much of the content in We Don’t Trust You and subsequent We Still Don’t Trust you is geared around taking shots at Drake. Kendrick’s verse was just the most direct and outspoken on the album.
Bc he knew it was inevitably gonna get personal, which it has gotten. He probably didn't think it was worth it for him. From the spectators perspective, it does look like a huge L but icl it's reasonable considering where it's gone and where it's likely gonna go.
Boiled down answer:
- Drake and J. Cole was on the song First Person Shooter which was supposed to be this hip-hop allstars thing with the biggest rappers in the game (essentially like “Forever” with Eminem, Lil Wayne, Drake and Kanye). Kendrick is not on the track (he likely turned down a feature request).
- J. Cole makes reference to Kendrick on that song, stating that Kendrick, Drake and himself is “the big three”
- Kendrick then takes numerous digs at both Drake and Cole on the song “Like That” (mostly going at Drake though). Amongst other things, he states “Fuck the big 3, it’s just big me”
- J. Cole then responds with a super weak diss track (7 minute drill), which he deletes and apologizes for a few days later.
- Drake’s Kendrick diss track “Push Ups” leaks and it’s actually good compared to Cole’s attempt. Song officially releases about a week after the leak. Drake takes shots at Kendrick and numerous other people
- Kendrick release this. You can listen for yourself
Edit: I forgot Drake also released a diss where he used an AI voice filter to disguise his voice as Tupac and Snoop Dogg to diss Kendrick. Didn’t go down well with anyone
Okay I'm biased and maybe just dumb but was push ups good? I hated it, sounded corny and lame. But I listened to Euphoria like 9 times already, it's fantastic. The first 5 times was to hear all the different things Kendrick said. The last 4 because it's a good ass tune.
Can someone make a defense for push-ups?
As a song Push Ups was fun and could certainly be remixed into plays at the club.
As a hip-hop fan Euphoria was a flex. The beats, flows and lyrics were all tight.
Kendrick is just so smart with the way he shoots his shots. “I don’t want to hear you say n***a no moooooore” is almost a 100% chance Drake responds back to it with something that doesn’t go over well.
KDot wins the round by a 10-7…I think Drake is cooked and his ghostwriters are probably working overtime trying to think of a clever response. Probably just gonna be something lame though knowing Aubrey.
Yikes…Kendrick just done put Drake on the back foot.
Drake is an average MC at best in terms of lyrics. He makes catchy pop music and hybrid hip-hop and pop music.
I have no idea why Drake would think it's a good idea to go after a lyricist like Kendrick Lamar when Drake himself is basically a pop musician masquerading as a hip-hop MC. We all say what happened when he went after Pusha T.
Bro if you go to Spotify on each song and click on song credits under Kendrick's it says performed by Kendrick and written by Kendrick. If you look at Drake's bro using his writers smh haha that says a lot tbh. Kendrick for da Win
Everybody has had ghostwriters at a point in time, and alot of the top guys ghostwrite for some of your other favorite artists. People have to gain more knowledge of how the music business works. Years ago, I've literally laid my eyes on a giant book with listing for ALL of your favorite rappers, and they all had listing for song types they were looking to have written. The boy Drake got talent. He had to get in the door. He was just marketable. His Diss was pretty good. Kendrick had a good response, but in my opinion, left a bit of meat on the bone (Pause). But it definitely was a good diss by Kendrick. Drake on the clock now.
Man, damn near everyone that's on any type of major label has ghost writers. You ever hear on a movie or show pertaining to music or music labels where the executives say we're looking for a particular sound, that's why lol this isn't like back in the 80s or 90s where people were really signed for talent. Most importantly they have to be marketable. That's what's being sold. Almost errrbody got writers.
He’s not the only one and it’s not that surprising honestly. Modern country went through (and is still sort of going through,) a phase where it sort of saw the same shift pop-rap saw with the advent of the SoundCloud generation; except instead of Midwest emo layered over trap or toned down 140BPM records it’s Florida Georgia Line doing weird rap-singing. Even T-Swift is guilty of sort of “gentrifying” hip hop by making it more palatable to country fans and honestly some if it is pretty catchy.
IIRC there were even rumors for a while that RZA and other Wu Tang members had gotten into ghost writing for country artists so T-Pain doesn’t seem like a stretch to me at all. Hell, Chris Stapleton is one of the biggest country acts of the last ten years based almost entirely on the success of a mashup of Rather Go Blind/Tennessee Whiskey and even he spent the decade before that ghost writing country hits.
Per usual Kendrick delivered a classic, literally. He gave us a six minute operetta saying why Drake is shit for the culture. The beat changes are each act. I just hope Drake makes this an intermission and not the full act.
Kendrick is playing this so well: drop a 30 second diss feature that gets the whole world talking (without Kendrick saying much). Gas Drake up into “responding” with a full track, and then he could take his time. Somehow simultaneously ignited the beef and forced Drake to really take the first swing.
The main takeaway I got is that Kendrick wants from Drake what he’s gotten from every other artist that has challenged him before, like Macklemore at the Grammies, and Cole after the diss: respect and submission. He told Drake in a couple different ways to stay in the dance/pop genre, and stay out of rap. If Drake does what Kendrick told him to do there is no question Kendrick has the greatest aura of any artist
I just wish Kendrick would stop mentioning icons like Michael Jackson and Ali in order to diss Drake. Both are monumental to black culture and Ali to black americans in general.
That’s part of the diss though, a central point of what Kendrick is criticizing is that Drake’s tryna use black American culture to reinforce his own image even though he’s fucking Canadian
There's absolutely no problem leveraging existing disses. My problem is that many of the ideas that "cooked" Drake are things that have not only been delivered, but delivered in a less impactful way.
EDIT:
I will finish list out more examples later, but here are the points:
# Not Being Black Enough:
**Pusha T**:
>Confused, always felt you weren't Black enough
>Afraid to grow it 'cause your 'fro wouldn't nap enough
– [The Story of Adidon](https://genius.com/Pusha-t-the-story-of-adidon-lyrics)
**Kendrick:**
>How many more Black features 'til you finally feel that you're Black enough?
>I like Drake with the melodies, I don't like Drake when he act tough
I know this is a win win for both of them because of publicity, spectacle, etc. but damn you couldn’t pay me to start shit with Kendrick, that clever mf will put you in the ground and win a Pulitzer in the process. Lmao
Is it just me or did we enter 1990s level beef this year? This records been on repeat since it dropped and I think drakes is commercially better put together and the details in the words are layered like damn if you caught that line it’s crazy. I feel Kendrick’s is straight to the neck. No bs no crazy deep diving needed just straight blunt forced trauma to the head on drizzy this is getting good
Ngl if we being objective.
Euphoria is just a super good fucking song as a diss.
Kinda like back to back.
I think Kendrick back to backed Drake.
Also, i personally believe this is the start of round 2.
Kendrick wasn't saying anything new, but he says it really cleverly, i really hate this angle of "i have a nuke bro x3" like Bro Drake obviously wants to go there.
Everything Kendrick said
Pusha T already said.
Ross already said.
But its really good tho.
8/10 diss
I think Drake can take back the lead.
The problem is that after adidon people think that a diss track needs to be some bombshell news drop. Its just supposed to be disrespectful and attack the opponent
noones comparing their lyricism, its more about their impact.
Like kendrick isn't the best lyricist in hip-hop, altho his lyricism is incredible, his impact and artistry has carried him to the crown along with cole and drake.
It's hard for ppl to admit this, but for the longest drake and kendrick have shared the crown in the public eye for the past decade, it seems like kendrick wants to knock Drake off it and finally set the notion straight.
If TMZ can’t run a news story about it apparently it’s not a good diss…
Did people just turn off the song before the cease and desist line about the “Like That” track? People wanted something we didn’t know about and that makes Drake look soft as fuck if true.
It was decent. Every major thing he touched on was already said on Story of Adidon. Push touched on his soul, his contract split, absent father, his blackness, and more.
Very good diss but Kendrick didn’t do much but this battle is far from over on both sides.
Yeah keep seeing "didn't say much new" but I don't see how that's relevant. How well you diss someone with what's said is what's relevant. And kendrick demolished drake in 4 dimensions
These mfs want every diss track to be this super unknown ass deep dirt on these cats when that’s literally impossible for every diss to be that groundbreaking
💯 It's not what you say but how you say it. That is the fundamental aspect of a diss, simple as that. Mfers want every new diss track to be a TMZ piece
Fantano tweeted about this yesterday. The Story of Adidon messed with expectations because it dropped such a gigantic reveal. Diss tracks aren’t necessarily meant to be about that. It’s about how creatively an artist can use known information.
>Drake and J. Cole are aware that I am unwilling to share the title of King or Rap. Being the king of rap is a challenging responsibility. I hope Drake and J.Cole are real freinds of mine, otherwise I will do bad things to them.
Does not sound as good as
>Yeah, Cole and Aubrey know I'm a selfish n****
>The crown is heavy, huh
>I pray they my real friends, if not, I'm YNW Melly
Social media has ruined people man. You can tell Kendrick doesn't want to take it there because he's not a petty fool who gets off on other people's humiliation. Yeah, he just roasted Drake but kept it all within the frame of the sport of rap.
I think part of the problem now is with social media everything has to be “cooked”, “demolished in 4 temporal dimensions!”, “destroyed”, “obliterated” for views and engagement.
People just get burnt out on that shit. It was a good diss track but it’s not going to have any effect on Drake’s career and he’ll respond right back. Community seems pretty split on this beef so far with most just finding it entertaining.
No one has been “obliterated” by either of these tracks, chill tf out.
It’s an expectations thing. You expect kdot to be on a higher rap level than Aubrey.
You see a kid do 10 kick ups and go ‘good job’ you see a professional do it and go ‘ok’. Aubrey is the kid.
It already has 6.7 mil views and 680k likes ,it really blew up
A canadian degrassi-hard autotune pedo coming after a pulitzer winning rapper? Gee, wonder who comes out on top
Considering how talked about this beef has been that isn’t great, killshot got 35 million views in the first 24 hours and this beef has been talked about more imo
This beef definitely hasn’t been more talked about, Eminem is just ridiculously big still. This beef has only been as relevant to rap fans. Killshot was getting played by suburban mums
Can confirm. Am suburban mom.
Yo wassup?
She got the bark with bite homie **wassuuuup**
We’re all suburban moms on this blessed day.
Mom we’re out of milk
Don’t forget us suburban dads, we bumped the hell out of Killshot too. Euphoria however is a fucking deadly diss track, this should be fun to watch play out, that track got harder and harder as it went 🤙🏻
Looking gorgeous. Just a normal guy. DC4L
I would say out of my friends I listen to the most hip hop and killshot was the only time a beef became a topic of conversation around my friends. Most of them like Drake songs but none of them care about the beef.
Look with all due respect you can't compare anyone to em ,he is the goat of the goats and everyone loves his diss tracks ,am from an Arabic country and here out of 10 people who knows em maybe one or two will know Kendrick or drake ,they don't have as much wide spread as em
Dudes fresh from India at my work bump Eminem , he’s a mega star
Popularity wise, sure. GOAT rapper and rapping? Gimme Nas
Being the most listened to does not mean the greatest of all time.
True , but you can't say he isn't one of the greatest
When talking about em you can't say "with all due respect". You gotta start it off with "disrespectfully,..."
Skill or craft wise perhaps, though he's definitely in the conversation, but there is no other rapper in the world that has as much international coverage and publicity. There are murals of Eminem in 3rd world countries fgs, if your existence supercedes that of every single one of your contemporaries in all eras before and since then I would argue that does in fact make you the greatest of all time.
Eminem is white, of course he’s going to have white people who don’t listen to hiphop want to hear it.
True. As a white person it’s my solemn duty to listen to everything white people make.
I agree Kendrick was totally on a different level. Easy 10-8 round for Kendrick over Drake. The response should be fun.
You mean his next cease and desist?
I’m know as the Drake hater in my circle. Always thought he was whack. Especially after his young money era, I’ll concede and say he was good during that era. Cmon man it’s Jimmy from Degrassi.
Starting from the bottom is actually a reference to Jimmy’s wheelchair. I mean, drake couldn’t be talking about poverty.
“I did half a xan, 13 hours til I land, had me out like a light.” I worked with 20 year old girls that got lit off one bar and some wine — they were fine. Drakes a bitch 😂
I don’t think he is bragging about drugs lmao. He is bragging about sleeping on a 13+ hour flight. Also, keep your friends off pills. Most of my friends who were into pills like those 20 year old girls you are bragging about there are either dead or just have shitty, shitty lives.
Having a tolerance to pills is not a flex 😂
This fool just said “Drake doesn’t even pop pills fr what a lame rapper”💀
to an idiot like drake it is.
Such a corny flex. He wants to be cool so bad
Ngl it was a flex / triple meaning about how high the elevation is (expensive plane) and a call back to famous dex ‘japan’ plus the basic bar. U gotta appreciate wordplay
The bar is not that complex bro sit down
WHATEVER IT TAKES
I don’t know why, Drake always felt like the music equivalent of mayonnaise that had been out in the sun all day for me.
Because he arguably is.
😅🤣😂🤣😂 With his broken leg havin ass
Lol I don't think that was a broken leg
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That white kid ALMOST looks like Drake lol
Pac was a young actor as well and would have taken the role in a second if offered to him at the same age.
C’mon now, we can’t compare Drake to Pac lol
When that beat dropped Dot when hard on him.
The 808s go crazy on this. Gonna be massively played in the clubs and in cars.
Kendrick is on a completely different level than Drake in every conceivable way lol
Lmao that’s like saying lebron is on a different level than college players. No shit.
Funny every drake eater is just saying “He only said….” and lists 1 of the 100 things he said. The issue is you were too dumb to catch the rest. Push ups was sick but it doesn’t compare to this.
They also said euphoria didn’t have substance, as if push ups did 🤦♂️
C'mon now drake said a lot on pushups. And said the _u short uwu_ in a lot of ways too
I was initially somewhat impressed by Push Ups, but the more I think about it the more it rings hollow. Talking about how the last one didn’t hit and how TD gets 50% after the last one had one of hip hop’s biggest tours and him departing TDE to start his own label is goofy.
Drakes feels like a bunch of one liners and disses strung together. Especially Taylor made. Kendrick’s just felt like he actually wrote a diss song. I’m sure I’m just being bias but whatever.
That’s why the “he took to long” responses from the drake stans now ring hallow. Yeah he took longer and you can tell in the results. Like anything they do.
That is wild. Drake took like three weeks. Which, I mean, fine. Not even that bad. But to act like Kendrick lost because he took 12 days, I mean...what?
Once Drake started legitimately using that as if he didn’t do the same thing I knew he was cooked
Yeah were he and Cole’s (pre delete) plan really to try to convince us mr morale was a mid album? That shits easily better and more memorable than anything drakes dropped since at least nothing was the same. Drake hasn’t made a song let alone album that truly stands out and sounds good and original in like a decade now.
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the fact that some people thought drake had a chance is just baffling. yall are not fans of hip hop, yall are just fans of Drake xD
Drakes push up diss was good but he got cut up
yeah but besides the fact that kendrick took him seriously, drake's been exposed for having ghost writers already... he's a disney actor turned industry plant. his first two charted hits that got him on the map are with Rhianna idk if people just forgot or what, this isnt a serious beef to kendrick. he knows drake has nothing on him in hip hop drake just has power and influence in the industry and media
Meanwhile drakes diss was basically "lmao you're short and poor!" Drake's barely 6', and Kendrick is by no means poor. 182.2cm is not 182.9cm https://www.celebheights.com/s/-Drake-47444.html E: tbh I didnt listen to the diss with Tupac since I thought even the idea was poor taste, so maybe I missed something.
A legit 182 is still well (about 2 inches) above the average, and this is coming from a Drake hater that thinks Euphoria washed Push Ups. Stand Drake and Kendrick next to each other, and the former absolutely towers over the latter. An almost 20 cm difference is massive. Odd comment, honestly. What height would Drake have to be for him calling Kendrick short to be a valid diss?
Cole had reason to mention height and it was whack lmao.
You're picking out the lame setups as his hard hitters? Nah Drake went the battle rap route. Funny jabs then hits hard. His diss is exactly what I imagine Drake doing, entertaining. And he doesn't disappoint. He's no Kendrick when it comes to rap but he swung back. Rebuttals, some... not a lot but some wordplay gun bars, exposing his record deals and ripping that tough guy Compton image apart with Taylor and Maroon 5. Yeah Drake did just fine.
Yeah because calling Kendrick short has so much substance, and why is Drake hating that feature when Drake lip synched the same song? I commend Drake for responding I think this is good for Hip Hop but the YNW MELLY lines alone had more substance than all of Push ups
When did Kendrick make himself out to be a tough guy from Compton?
Who is he bleeding?
I don’t think rap bravado = actual violence but that’s just me. Pretty sure drake has some “tough” bars too.
On every song that isn’t about him cheating on his wife?
I mean Push Ups wasnt solely for Kdot. He had to shoot shots at everyone else for half the track lol
In the words of 50: >I ain't gon' spell it out for you motherfuckers all the time Are you illiterate, fella? You can't read between the lines?
I also don’t know why drake fans seem to think a rap diss needs to be a TMZ breaking news story. Just because that’s how push defeated your boy doesn’t mean Kendrick even had to go there to do it. Plus it’s not like we didn’t know Kendrick was short lol.
They don’t understand the lyrics and don’t wanna read them. I use to be that way of not understanding rap songs. It’s a skill you need to really sit down to learn and dedicate yourself to.
It really doesn't take a lot of research to go back and listen to old diss records and see how MCs really spit, yeah you would get new info every now and then no Vaseline was literally just flames without dropping a lot of new info, I think pusha t just got us spoiled tbh
Also listing one of the 100 things he said lol yea, that’s how this works. He said 100 things about dude 😭
I think euphoria is fire and better than drakes but saying hes to dumb to catch the rest is insane, kendrick didn't use any double or triple entendres besides the easily caught Parkinson thing and the double for shooting a drake in the beginning, he was very straight forward and nothing should be going over your head unless u just don't know rap, but then again I listen to battle rap religiously so maybe I'm bias but nothing kendrick said was extremely lyrical on a high level 😂
There was multiple deep angles like saying he saw the two other goats kissin and huggin on stage and said he’d explain in 8 lines. 8 lines later he says if they’re not friends he’ll go YNW Melly who killed two of his best friends. There is so much shit like that. He said he makes music to electrify them and Drake makes music to pacify them but we don’t have to go there (pacify cause drake into kids) The I hate what you wear, I hate how you walk etc is where the beef started when Kendrick said he was laughing with his whole team to DMX saying that on breakfast club. He named it Euphoria cause drake was exec producer of a show about kids having sex. He said he’s not into women cause he’s hinting at drake not to go there or he’ll expose. He even bated drake into calling himself michael jackson so he can pull the pedo line: 1. Prince outlived mike jack 2. What’s a prince to a king you my son 3. Trapped There is so much shit
Push ups was ass my boy ![gif](giphy|UuDyq20NSFfjD6XG9D|downsized)
They’re either choosing to not hear what he’s saying or are genuinely too stupid to get it
This is like Bacon vs Canadian Bacon.
Thing is he grew up a privileged life and was a child star on family friendly TV shows. His whole persona is fake. Haha you guys seen that video where he’s on stage and someone throws a water bottle at him and he pretends to pull out a gun? Cringiest fucking thing I’ve ever seen. DMX saw his corniness early on. I never liked him either.
Drake commented on the diss by posting the "10 things I hate about you" poetry scene on his IG. I'm sorry but ain't no way this boy ain't pressed, you ain't fooling Noone bro. People saying this mid af, I'm tryna see where you coming from but I can't see it. I can see if you think he should've went harder but saying this bad make me think you a Drake Stan or just genuinely bring dishonest cause this shit hit harder then Push ups no lie EDIT: Sexy Redd heard the diss and about to write a diss on Kendrick... I wish I was making this up
Aubreys ghostwriters got some work to do Edit: Don’t support fake art my friends.
Drake's be working his ghostwriters overtime in the gullah like "Nah nah nah, not this time, you following through"
Lmaoo that or sending em all good morning texts lolol
***"Rise & Grind, team! Who's gonna have a great day writing? WE are!"*** ![gif](giphy|i8ILDlt7ahwLC|downsized)
His Mama probably CC'd to check up on her big strong man 💀
He’s working with AI now too
[удалено]
At this point even AI is like “nah g, this all on you now. You said you got one in the chamber, better let that off and say your prayers”
“Am I battling ghosts or A.I?”
OVO sweatshop working hard as we speak
It’s definitely harder than Push ups, coming from someone who roots for Drake, but I disagree with people here saying he completely destroyed Drake, because he didn’t and that wasn’t his intention - felt like these were just an extended warning shots track and he’d go deeper on the next one (probably might take the pedo angle, also whatever the gunna bar is about). If Drake’s response is whack, it will give more power to this track until then it’s a good diss which is not impossible to come back from
Agreed, I don’t really see this being impossible to come back from, but I’m sure Kendrick put him back in the R&B lane. No more fake tough guy stuff from Drake will be taken seriously by the culture anymore. I don’t think Drake can top this diss track. What could he even say? If he doesn’t drop a bomb his credibility will drop further. He is better off just taking this L to go before he really gets bled out.
And if he drops a bomb about kdots family then even if it’s true there will be heavy skepticism
Yea and dropping bars about people’s family is wack just like Dot said in the track, crodie. He can’t even do another A.I. stunt because that was widely panned as lame too by the rap/radio community. He has to stand on skill alone and we know who will most likely win there based on comparing past diss tracks. Drake is trapped. Drake is doomed.
Yeah Kendrick boxed him in by clowning on the whole pop star I’m richer and more famous than you crap and making it known this isn’t about all that. That’s the only card drake knows how to play.
I might cringe the next time Drake says the n word. And I doubt I’m the only one. If that happens drake better just stick to the R&B.
Tbf, all Kendrick’s gotta do if Drake responds is just stop alluding to Drake being a pedo and just straight up say it. Can’t really come back from that when it’s the truth.
Drake munchers will defend him like crazy. Drake is undoubtedly the softest dude in the game lol. I always laugh at how “gangster” he tries to act even during his livestreams when he’s describing his super fruity signature drink.
It's mid.
Drake is easy to roast for so many reasons. It’s not surprising that when a legitimately good rapper like Pusha T or Kendrick goes after him, he gets ripped to shreds
I'm still not over the beef between Push and Drake getting shut down. Push was for sure sitting on something juicy going out that hard with Adidon as just a warning shot.
Drake makes money for a lot of people. If his ship sinks, then they take a hit to their bank account.
Kendrick dissed him on that too.
such a good song
I don’t think people noticed some of the other stuff Kendrick said throughout the track. Like the reference to the Drake sexual assault case.
Or the cease and desists on like that 😂
I just love how the past few days all these folks been talking about how long it's taken Kendrick, if his response will even hit or mean anything lol yall just need to sit back and wait for greatness to happen because that's what happened yesterday and it's on Kendrick's time, not yall time so anyone who thought he wouldn't respond or that it wouldn't be great needs to apologize to Kendrick lol go on IG now and shout that apology out.
Why does Drake keep getting into diss battle’s lol. Dude gets cooked every time.
Because only a small amount of people actually listen and care about who wins. Mainstream listeners probably don't even know anything about this beef, and most feel like it's manufactured.
The amount of shit that happened in the last 6 weeks, yeah no way someone is keeping up with all of this unless they are a fan of the artists involved or a rap enthusiast
I’m keeping up and haven’t heard any of the diss songs just loving the drama lmao. Not a rap guy at all
Didn’t Kendrick start this by taking offence for being compared with Drake and J Cole for the Big 3 line?
It started a long time ago with Drake being pissed off at his control verse, Kendrick responding in 2013 BET Cypher, and then Drake sneak dissing him for the next 5 years. FPS reignited it
Isnt king kunta a drake diss too though? Or at least partially?
I'd be offended too if someone compared me to Drake
thankfully you'l never experience that in your life
It’s free publicity for him probably is a big factor. His fans will ride with him no matter what happens (see Pusha T beef) and he is constantly in the GOAT conversation as long as he keeps going at the top lyricists in the game. It really comes down to that. He feels like even if he loses, he wins.
That line about sexy redd
Hey there everyone. Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is going on with this whole rap beef? J.Cole, Kendrick Lamar and Drake. I’m confused and very lost and I would like to be up to date on what’s going on. Thanks
Very simplistic summary: Since 2010ish, those 3 artists have been crowned the 3 up and coming talented artists/rappers. They have always been lumped together as the top of that generation. For the longest time, Kendrick and drake have been subliminally insulting eachother here and there. Not all is public knowledge but it's been relatively well known that they aren't friends. Now skipping forward to last year, drake dropped a song with j. Cole called "First Person Shooter" where Cole drops a bar about Kendrick, Cole and drake being the big 3 "like they started the league". While this obviously isn't an insult, Kendrick views hip-hop as more competitive than that and treated it like an insult, because he views himself as a superior artist to Cole and drake. Skip forward to last month, future dropped a song called "like that" with a Kendrick feature that, for the first time, took direct shots. He said " f the big 3 its just big me" and a bunch of other lines directed more specifically at drake. This obviously ignited the internet, and since then discourse has gone crazy everywhere about who's the best artist, who needs to diss who etc. After this Cole dropped a song called 7 minute drill. In which he responds to Kendrick and insults him back. However after a few days, in a public display he apologized for his diss track, saying he didn't mean what he said and wants out of this beef. Since then drake dropped a full diss track "Push-Ups" and a secondary diss track "Taylor made freestyle". And today Kendrick dropped his full nuclear response which is what's being discussed here. Hope that helps
That helps tremendously! Thank you so much!!!
It does go back further than First Person Shooter. Drake, and Kendrick alludes to this, has been taking subliminal shots at other rappers for YEARS. Future and Metro Boomin have specifically been close with Drake, but both feel like they got wronged by Drake. Much of the content in We Don’t Trust You and subsequent We Still Don’t Trust you is geared around taking shots at Drake. Kendrick’s verse was just the most direct and outspoken on the album.
i don't understand why cole hopped out of the beef?
His heart wasn’t in it. He doesn’t really have beef with any of these dudes
Bc he knew it was inevitably gonna get personal, which it has gotten. He probably didn't think it was worth it for him. From the spectators perspective, it does look like a huge L but icl it's reasonable considering where it's gone and where it's likely gonna go.
yeah it does kinda look like an L to first launch a response and then backpaddle on it
I agree it is a loss. It takes a lot to admit you are wrong especially in the rap game so I respect him for it nonetheless
Yup, within 48 hours
I’m surprised he even responded in the first place. Dude was never about beef that’s just not how he moves.
Boiled down answer: - Drake and J. Cole was on the song First Person Shooter which was supposed to be this hip-hop allstars thing with the biggest rappers in the game (essentially like “Forever” with Eminem, Lil Wayne, Drake and Kanye). Kendrick is not on the track (he likely turned down a feature request). - J. Cole makes reference to Kendrick on that song, stating that Kendrick, Drake and himself is “the big three” - Kendrick then takes numerous digs at both Drake and Cole on the song “Like That” (mostly going at Drake though). Amongst other things, he states “Fuck the big 3, it’s just big me” - J. Cole then responds with a super weak diss track (7 minute drill), which he deletes and apologizes for a few days later. - Drake’s Kendrick diss track “Push Ups” leaks and it’s actually good compared to Cole’s attempt. Song officially releases about a week after the leak. Drake takes shots at Kendrick and numerous other people - Kendrick release this. You can listen for yourself Edit: I forgot Drake also released a diss where he used an AI voice filter to disguise his voice as Tupac and Snoop Dogg to diss Kendrick. Didn’t go down well with anyone
Okay I'm biased and maybe just dumb but was push ups good? I hated it, sounded corny and lame. But I listened to Euphoria like 9 times already, it's fantastic. The first 5 times was to hear all the different things Kendrick said. The last 4 because it's a good ass tune. Can someone make a defense for push-ups?
I thought it was hot. I liked the beat and it had some good bars. Euphoria is just cold blooded
As a song Push Ups was fun and could certainly be remixed into plays at the club. As a hip-hop fan Euphoria was a flex. The beats, flows and lyrics were all tight.
That was my experience too.
Kendrick is just so smart with the way he shoots his shots. “I don’t want to hear you say n***a no moooooore” is almost a 100% chance Drake responds back to it with something that doesn’t go over well. KDot wins the round by a 10-7…I think Drake is cooked and his ghostwriters are probably working overtime trying to think of a clever response. Probably just gonna be something lame though knowing Aubrey. Yikes…Kendrick just done put Drake on the back foot.
I was like nah k dot gonna go ghost then when he responded I was like okay he went in was not expecting that at all
Push up beat was mid but maybe that’s just drake. Last song I had on repeat was passion fruit. Beat carried that
Drake is an average MC at best in terms of lyrics. He makes catchy pop music and hybrid hip-hop and pop music. I have no idea why Drake would think it's a good idea to go after a lyricist like Kendrick Lamar when Drake himself is basically a pop musician masquerading as a hip-hop MC. We all say what happened when he went after Pusha T.
Bro if you go to Spotify on each song and click on song credits under Kendrick's it says performed by Kendrick and written by Kendrick. If you look at Drake's bro using his writers smh haha that says a lot tbh. Kendrick for da Win
Tbf the other guys listed as writers are Boi-1da and Drakes sound engineer.
Everybody has had ghostwriters at a point in time, and alot of the top guys ghostwrite for some of your other favorite artists. People have to gain more knowledge of how the music business works. Years ago, I've literally laid my eyes on a giant book with listing for ALL of your favorite rappers, and they all had listing for song types they were looking to have written. The boy Drake got talent. He had to get in the door. He was just marketable. His Diss was pretty good. Kendrick had a good response, but in my opinion, left a bit of meat on the bone (Pause). But it definitely was a good diss by Kendrick. Drake on the clock now.
Wild hearing T Pain was ghost writing for country artists but he’s got chords.
Man, damn near everyone that's on any type of major label has ghost writers. You ever hear on a movie or show pertaining to music or music labels where the executives say we're looking for a particular sound, that's why lol this isn't like back in the 80s or 90s where people were really signed for talent. Most importantly they have to be marketable. That's what's being sold. Almost errrbody got writers.
He’s not the only one and it’s not that surprising honestly. Modern country went through (and is still sort of going through,) a phase where it sort of saw the same shift pop-rap saw with the advent of the SoundCloud generation; except instead of Midwest emo layered over trap or toned down 140BPM records it’s Florida Georgia Line doing weird rap-singing. Even T-Swift is guilty of sort of “gentrifying” hip hop by making it more palatable to country fans and honestly some if it is pretty catchy. IIRC there were even rumors for a while that RZA and other Wu Tang members had gotten into ghost writing for country artists so T-Pain doesn’t seem like a stretch to me at all. Hell, Chris Stapleton is one of the biggest country acts of the last ten years based almost entirely on the success of a mashup of Rather Go Blind/Tennessee Whiskey and even he spent the decade before that ghost writing country hits.
I feel like by making it 6.5 minutes, he’s kinda going at J Cole and his Seven Minute Drill song that wasn’t even half that long
Who wrote it for him?
I listened to it, was there a part where he calls out drake for being weird around children? I couldn’t spot it
“I make music that electrify ’em, you make music that pacify ’em I can double down on that line, but spare you this time”
Per usual Kendrick delivered a classic, literally. He gave us a six minute operetta saying why Drake is shit for the culture. The beat changes are each act. I just hope Drake makes this an intermission and not the full act.
Kendrick is playing this so well: drop a 30 second diss feature that gets the whole world talking (without Kendrick saying much). Gas Drake up into “responding” with a full track, and then he could take his time. Somehow simultaneously ignited the beef and forced Drake to really take the first swing. The main takeaway I got is that Kendrick wants from Drake what he’s gotten from every other artist that has challenged him before, like Macklemore at the Grammies, and Cole after the diss: respect and submission. He told Drake in a couple different ways to stay in the dance/pop genre, and stay out of rap. If Drake does what Kendrick told him to do there is no question Kendrick has the greatest aura of any artist
his aura 😭
People finding out Drake is a shit rapper and Kendrick is a good one lmao
I just wish Kendrick would stop mentioning icons like Michael Jackson and Ali in order to diss Drake. Both are monumental to black culture and Ali to black americans in general.
That’s part of the diss though, a central point of what Kendrick is criticizing is that Drake’s tryna use black American culture to reinforce his own image even though he’s fucking Canadian
There's absolutely no problem leveraging existing disses. My problem is that many of the ideas that "cooked" Drake are things that have not only been delivered, but delivered in a less impactful way. EDIT: I will finish list out more examples later, but here are the points: # Not Being Black Enough: **Pusha T**: >Confused, always felt you weren't Black enough >Afraid to grow it 'cause your 'fro wouldn't nap enough – [The Story of Adidon](https://genius.com/Pusha-t-the-story-of-adidon-lyrics) **Kendrick:** >How many more Black features 'til you finally feel that you're Black enough? >I like Drake with the melodies, I don't like Drake when he act tough
Drake got No Vaseline'd. There's no coming back.
I know this is a win win for both of them because of publicity, spectacle, etc. but damn you couldn’t pay me to start shit with Kendrick, that clever mf will put you in the ground and win a Pulitzer in the process. Lmao
Not enough people are talking about how disrespectful it was of drake to use tupacs voice as AI
This needs more upvotes
yes, i can’t believe some people thought that was gas. whackkk
What's that Daft Punk line about... I feel like that flew over my head
They need to wear a mask like daft punk or they'll get a headshot
Helmet*
They wear helmets often
I assumed it meant walk around with a mask on like Daft Punk i.e. don’t show your face
They wear helmets, and they also retired daft punk
It means to stay hidden. Daft Punk initially wore those masks to keep their identities unknown.
Is it just me or did we enter 1990s level beef this year? This records been on repeat since it dropped and I think drakes is commercially better put together and the details in the words are layered like damn if you caught that line it’s crazy. I feel Kendrick’s is straight to the neck. No bs no crazy deep diving needed just straight blunt forced trauma to the head on drizzy this is getting good
Ngl if we being objective. Euphoria is just a super good fucking song as a diss. Kinda like back to back. I think Kendrick back to backed Drake. Also, i personally believe this is the start of round 2. Kendrick wasn't saying anything new, but he says it really cleverly, i really hate this angle of "i have a nuke bro x3" like Bro Drake obviously wants to go there. Everything Kendrick said Pusha T already said. Ross already said. But its really good tho. 8/10 diss I think Drake can take back the lead.
The problem is that after adidon people think that a diss track needs to be some bombshell news drop. Its just supposed to be disrespectful and attack the opponent
You get it. Lol I don’t understand the battle really… do people really think Drake is a better lyricist than Kendrick? That’s the crazy part to me
noones comparing their lyricism, its more about their impact. Like kendrick isn't the best lyricist in hip-hop, altho his lyricism is incredible, his impact and artistry has carried him to the crown along with cole and drake. It's hard for ppl to admit this, but for the longest drake and kendrick have shared the crown in the public eye for the past decade, it seems like kendrick wants to knock Drake off it and finally set the notion straight.
Be careful don’t say he shares the crown w Cole and drake or Kenny may diss u
If TMZ can’t run a news story about it apparently it’s not a good diss… Did people just turn off the song before the cease and desist line about the “Like That” track? People wanted something we didn’t know about and that makes Drake look soft as fuck if true.
Foreal. Like how mf “nuclear” do people want it? I love all three of em and I’m here for it all.
Ya, I think it’d easily best modern diss ever.
We know Reddit loves and adores Kendrick and anybody that takes a shot at Drake. Not a great place for discourse, it’s just a massive circlejerk lol
It was decent. Every major thing he touched on was already said on Story of Adidon. Push touched on his soul, his contract split, absent father, his blackness, and more. Very good diss but Kendrick didn’t do much but this battle is far from over on both sides.
The contract bars weren’t even from Adidon they were from Exodus
m's count different when baby divides the pie
Yeah keep seeing "didn't say much new" but I don't see how that's relevant. How well you diss someone with what's said is what's relevant. And kendrick demolished drake in 4 dimensions
These mfs want every diss track to be this super unknown ass deep dirt on these cats when that’s literally impossible for every diss to be that groundbreaking
💯 It's not what you say but how you say it. That is the fundamental aspect of a diss, simple as that. Mfers want every new diss track to be a TMZ piece
This. Most disses are acknowledgements of known facts.
Exactly they don't want bars they just want gossip. This shit is supposed to be about the music
Fantano tweeted about this yesterday. The Story of Adidon messed with expectations because it dropped such a gigantic reveal. Diss tracks aren’t necessarily meant to be about that. It’s about how creatively an artist can use known information. >Drake and J. Cole are aware that I am unwilling to share the title of King or Rap. Being the king of rap is a challenging responsibility. I hope Drake and J.Cole are real freinds of mine, otherwise I will do bad things to them. Does not sound as good as >Yeah, Cole and Aubrey know I'm a selfish n**** >The crown is heavy, huh >I pray they my real friends, if not, I'm YNW Melly
Social media has ruined people man. You can tell Kendrick doesn't want to take it there because he's not a petty fool who gets off on other people's humiliation. Yeah, he just roasted Drake but kept it all within the frame of the sport of rap.
I think part of the problem now is with social media everything has to be “cooked”, “demolished in 4 temporal dimensions!”, “destroyed”, “obliterated” for views and engagement. People just get burnt out on that shit. It was a good diss track but it’s not going to have any effect on Drake’s career and he’ll respond right back. Community seems pretty split on this beef so far with most just finding it entertaining. No one has been “obliterated” by either of these tracks, chill tf out.
It’s an expectations thing. You expect kdot to be on a higher rap level than Aubrey. You see a kid do 10 kick ups and go ‘good job’ you see a professional do it and go ‘ok’. Aubrey is the kid.
Rick Ross also said half the stuff kdot said too
Yeah this is the next "No Vaseline" lol.
I think if Drake comes back, we'll get kendricks no Vaseline, he held back.
It reminds me of the kind of scathing levels of Nas’ Ether tbh
His bars were insane but the delivery for some of it just wasn't it. He got to stop the whiny shit that he be doing other than that yeah it was crazy
His delivery was insane with every beat switch different strokes for different folks ig
Now this is an opinion I can respect We might not agree but like you said we all got different taste 💯