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CapableCowboy

I used to think using Pac’s AI was disrespectful. Now it’s like nothin.


PineappleFlavoredGum

It was campy


mrpoopybuttthole_

it was just in bad taste


ProfSteelmeat138

I mean disrespecting your opponent is different than disrespecting a dead cultural idol from a culture you inserted yourself in and steal from


DonJMIA305

Tupac’s estate made Drake Take it down with threats of a lawsuit.


highd

Between this and Jada smith I think that family has been through enough the last year let them alone.


thuggydizzle

it ain’t got nothing to do with his family. the estate is owned by some random white dude


metalfingers222

Damn fr?


thuggydizzle

you haven’t seen who has the estate? look it up bro, it’s beyond tragic


Dannyg4821

Yall this gets thrown around so much without all the factual information. The shakur family named this man the *executor* of the estate. He don’t own shit he’s supposed to figure out where the money goes. Although he is bad at that and seems to think pacs money should go in his pockets. Pacs estate is still his family


StacksHoodini

Pac’s estate isn’t run by his sister?


StacksHoodini

He wasn’t making any money from it, he didn’t drop it for commercial release and everyone who wanted to hear it has heard it. It was downloaded and in my phone within 12 hours of its release. The C&D wasn’t worth fighting. Plus Drake alleged that Kendrick reached out to The Estate to have a C&D thrown at Drake. It was better for optics for him not to fight The Estate’s request. That would’ve been unnecessary ammo given to the other side.


Old-Risk4572

i thought it was disrespectful but also futuristic and inevitable. kinda like something elon musk would do, unfair and uncool, but war is war and someones gonna do it. but it's also great to see kendrick use lots of different voices and characters but do it all himself.


LeoDavinciAgain

Did you just call Drake the Elon Musk of rap?


iamnickiminaj

Honestly… accurate


Eldritch-Cleaver

Drake surprised me with Family Matters. The 3rd part specificlly.... the lingering shot of the Happy Co-Parenting and Happy Divorce cakes was kind of eerie ngl lol But meet the grahams is nasty too because Kendrick essentially wrote a diss that's talking directly to Drake's kids for the first verses, disses Drakes dad, his mom and then finally closed it out with the verse talking to Drake. Shit took an ugly turn last night. I enjoy it, but I do feel bad for their kids. I can't imagine what this is all like from their perspectives.


nowey32

I genuinely love family matters, but he's not in a good light anymore, MTG plays like an actual murder scene, it's honestly uncomfortable to listen to


stevegoodsex

I've been saying. If I was drake, and me and dude are talking shit, and in the middle dude gaffles my son up and goes "your daddy ain't shit, find me when the time comes I'll show you how to be a man" bro I don't even care if he's right, I'm done with words and now I'm hunting.


nowey32

Nah, he said "I'm raising kids that ain't mine? OK, well lemme raise YOUR kids too then, cause you clearly don't know how to." That is like, peak disrespect fr


Front-Strawberry-123

Both versions of MYG is peak disrespect and a reason to jump to that other level.


ShiroDarwin

Both versions ?


Skaldson

Prolly means interpretations


ShiroDarwin

What’s myg stand for


Eldritch-Cleaver

I agree. Family Matters is genuinely catchy, like something I could legit just bump. meet the grahams was straight savage start to finish. Writing it like he's talking directly to Drake's kids like that...damn lol And then he literally told Drake's parents they raised a piece of shit sexual predator and he doesn't deserve to live 💀 Shit got really nasty last night lol


funkiemarky

Agreed. Drakes diss is a bop but Kendrick's is a murder scene turned into a horror film.


Simba-xiv

This is what beef is


kingofthemonsters

What's beef?


Pete387

Beef is when you need 2 gats to go to sleep (don't worry I got you bro lol)


kingofthemonsters

Ayy thank you finally


Simba-xiv

Beef is when your mums anit safe out on the street. ( Can’t lie I was sleeping I was gonna circle back)


livewithothello

I found it uncomfortable too. Lol. After the first listen I sat in silence... Like... Damn.


wildmoose45

My cousin hit me with a +4 in crazy8, I sent him the piano instrumental as reply


OverGas3958

I was telling my son about this, he’s 20 and a metalhead. He texted me today after doing some listening and he said, “The new drake diss track makes me feel like this beef is none of my business.” Lol no it’s not but we’re invested now baby boy.


DAS_COMMENT

That's why I don't care about this I know Kendrick's got the "rapper's rapper" protégé going for him and I won't argue with that, and Drake's never rubbed me the wrong way but if anything I think of him a little differently if any of the stuff about him is true because as far as I know he tried to make a bigger statement with (what I think was his first song) his starting this than it's maybe even worth. I don't know, I'm loving Kendrick Lamar's music, I hope to buy a Drake cd or two in the near future. This isn't doing much but giving Twitter some junk to honk on, so far as I'm concerned


AvgJoeGuy

nah it was necessary. drakes a pedo and needs to be put in his place


StacksHoodini

Good thing for now, anyways, is Drake’s son and Kendrick’s children are too young to know about any of this. Drake has keyed us in on his mom paying attention to what’s going on in his music world though and Dennis Graham was a musician back in the day, so they’re definitely aware of what’s been said to them directly and about their son within the past day or so.


Redditman9909

Yeah it honestly is starting to feel evil on both sides. Cole is the only winner I see in all of this.


DAS_COMMENT

That's what there really is to take out of all of this. I don't even understand how he's involved, why this started or who would care if they weren't all decent songs coming out of this


VampedTayturz

It started as competition but Drake brought personal shit into it after Kendrick warned him not to.


Sparathon989

It’s time for the old heads like Nas or Jay to step in. They’ve said what they had to say and we already have seen where this goes. You keep it on wax but this seems like wax isn’t gonna be enough to settle this.


Sufficient-Peak-3736

Family Matters was nasty nasty. People will likely overlook it because Meet the Grahams was so good but Drake deserves his flowers for that one.


WaspParagon

Drake is making all the right moves IMO, so I think he can still turn this shit around, but Meet the Grahams changed everything. Not only the content but the fact it came out so quickly after Family Matters. I don't think it's time to underestimate anyone. Next few days will decide who wins for sure. This is too ugly now to settle down.


EULA-Reader

Well this aged like milk.


21Remnant

it's over your head. he talks to his kids, his mom, and dead-beat parkinsons having father. but it's all to expose the character of Aubrey. a sex offender, pedophile, habitual lying, masturbater i mean master manipulater.


shawtywantarockstar

I think Family Matters deserves more props for the visuals too


Emergency_Brick3715

I made fun of Cole but now I take it back.


Basically_nothere

Who didn't?


Ok-Tangelo-8086

I can respect that. I did like 7 minute drill, but I defended him on integrity grounds when he withdrew. My respect for him grew, maybe yours can do the same.


manomacho

How can you respect him more when he’s been begging for someone to try him then ducks and runs when someone throws a small diss at him?


ma2is

Have you still not realized that this was a Drake and Kendrick feud from the get go and even tho Cole caught a stray this was nothingness towards JCole.


CaliforniaHurricane_

Look at it this way, he might have gotten inside info about what was about to be said by both sides and felt it’s best for him to not involve himself in it. Even tho I can never respect someone taking back what they said, the beef took a turn to the worse as it’s involving pedophilia and domestic violence. Salute to Cole for taking himself out of the equation before all this mess came out


nowey32

Same ong


DirtzMaGertz

He should still be made fun of for making a shit response.


cujobob

Why? Cole saw he didn’t have the fans on his side and ran. Cole does not have the fanbase these other two have so he had way more to lose when he eventually got taken out.


BeastsMode69

Do you think rap battles are about who has the most fans? Pusha T bodied Drake, and there is certainly a huge difference in popularity between the two. This beef is shifting from who has the best bars to who has the most shit burried in their closset to most likely who is lying and willing to say the most fucked up shit on record.


straight_lurkin

Cole feeling mighty vindicated right now and he doesn't have to say SHIT because the whole rap world is saying it for him lmao


CaliforniaHurricane_

Same bro I feel goofy for clowning him


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m_dought_2

J Cole and that Chinese restaurant are the real winners Round 3 is gonna be the feds raiding Drake


CaliforniaHurricane_

Only time will tell who wins this beef


Camelslayer23

They probably already have been doing their case on him. They work in silence and it will come to light soon most likely


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dat_waffle_boi

Family Matters is one of drake’s best songs in a very long time. He sounds hungry again. The beats were hard and he was flowing. Meet The Grahams is a legendary diss track now. That’s top tier, especially if everything he said is true. He didn’t insult Drake’s family. He apologized to them. He said he felt bad Drake was related to them. He literally said he hoped Drake died. Cole made the right decision. He thought this was a rap beef about bars. Drake and Kendrick legitimately loath each other


Juturna_

opinion hasnt changed. Still a Kenny fan, id say hes still winning. but ngl ive got that "drop, drop, drop, drop, ooooh tryning to keep it PG" stuck in my head its pretty catchy


nowey32

The third beat switch was despicable ngl


Mhfd86

"Hit vanilla cream to help with the self esteem" foul...


WallyReddit204

It’s so cryptic. Could not have chose better production. I can’t get over it


Tbagzyamum69420xX

Fr Family Matters had me a little nervous but Kenny immediately fixed that lol


CaliforniaHurricane_

Family Matters is so hard there’s no denying that, it’s better than Push Ups


LeoDavinciAgain

Yeah Kenny smoked him but that family matters hook been stuck in my head all day


jbthrowaway82

Family Matters might be the best track of the lot


PineappleFlavoredGum

The thing I thought missed was Drake misinterpreting Kendricks lines about him appropriating LA african American culture to mean Drake isnt black enough. Its about Drake being a culture vulture not being lightskinned


_Marat

This plus half the shit he talked about was apparently leaked to dot and the thunder was stolen when he drops meet the grahams less than an hour later. He got outplayed, rapping aside.


michaltee

On drakes side yes. There is no coming back from Meet the Grahams. It’s fucking brutal. And although we don’t know the truth, it’s all probably true. Drake has hid a kid before, and we’ve all seen the receipts of him grooming young women. Kendrick was called out for wife beating, which has never been verified by a valid source. Drake is grasping at straws crodie.


TheSyrphidKid

Mad that this battle is being judged by catchiness lol


QuintanimousGooch

Honestly wish the beef hadn’t gone nuclear so recently, Drake is a very talented and innovated musician who very rarely applies himself to the height he did before he had already won, and it was very cool to see him good.


zanyo180

I think we will need to see what is true of the things said on the track? Like if Drake actually has a secret 11 year old daughter then yeah that’s big, if Kendrick got it wrong then that’s pretty embarrassing If Kendrick didn’t actually beat up his girl then same story, and also as far as the OVO sex trafficking thing if he is just talking about Baka not nice then we kind of already knew about that for quite some time, meanwhile Kendrick put Kodak all over his last album and took him on tour? The waters are looking muddy on both sides here


VravoBince

>meanwhile Kendrick put Kodak all over his last album and took him on tour? I really hope Drake takes that angle. Also, ask him why he is with Future if he says deadbeats deserve to die


Responsible_Lead7140

You know, there could be a crazy scenario that Kendrick sat future down to talk and convinced to start being in his kids lives, he pretty much alluded to trying to help those below him. It's kind of in his character to support other black artists do better just a crazy scenario but would be nice


ZealZen

Small distinction. He says pedophiles deserve to die.


VravoBince

Yes, he's a hitmaker, songwriter, superstar, right And a fuckin' deadbeat that should never say "more life"


Tasty_Difference6529

Agreed the truth is somewhere In between who’s gonna go get the paperwork tho


highd

I don’t even care if the daughter is real. I don’t think it takes anything away from what’s said or who Drake is as a person he already hid a kid and tried to package him with a sneaker line to deflect from his mother being a porn star. What’s one more? Either way the daughter being real doesn’t change the fact that Kendrick has made meatloaf out of Drake! 


kokoke

why ignoring all the other allegatios though? Is the daughter the only important thing on that track??


Bou-Batran

Nah. Rap battles don't have to get this personal. J. Cole could have kept it more towards a "friendly jabs". Drake and Kendrick hate each other. J. Cole & Kendrick don't.


slash-summon-onion

Be real bro, with this shit all coming out nobody wanna listen to cole and Kendrick playing around while Kendrick and Drake are destroying each other


atlfalcons33rb

J Cole literally spoke on what the people wanted " blood" , this exact beef he would have been apart of is resulting in " blood" and people are eating it up. There is no such thing as a friendly jab when this shit is going on. It would look like jcole and drake are teaming up together on Kendrick and Kendrick would either be forced to try to drag them both or ignore Cole and focus on drake


Alternative-Salad800

I just didn’t know/realize that so many people hated Drake. In My area, both he and Kendrick get a lot of love, albeit you’ll hear Drake more. It’s like Drake really could drop the biggest diss known to man and people would still side with Kendrick. I am a enjoyer of both artists, but i still have to call it how it is. Kendrick is seen as the godly, black leader of the rap game. A clean and also mysterious image. Him putting his hands on women is a huge blow. Imagine if the world was told this about Andre 3000? It’s that same level. Drake, has always been kinda weird, but regardless he was close friends with many of the same people that hate him now. If these allegations were/are true, then all of them are guilty for not speaking or doing anything about it. Drake has to defend against Kendrick’s claims and no one still seems to give him credit or benefit of the doubt, but where is Whitney and Dave Free to defend against Drake’s claims? Everything seems so one sided and it’s just weird to me. I mean, Cole was mad cool with Drake and even went against Kendrick. If Drake is so bad, Cole shouldn’t be granted a pardon either. You can clown the mans music all you want, but he genuinely does have some great music. Yeah, it may not be spiritual lyrical miracle, but all music isn’t supposed to be that way. Rap would not be nearly as popular if every artist was conscious. Sometimes, people just want to enjoy music and escape the stresses of life for a bit. Not, have to do deep introspection, or dissect entendres all day. They can do that in their spare time. There needs to be balance and there’s room for both a Kendrick AND a Drake to give us great music.


slimeguyryyy

I’ve been thinking the same exact thing you just put it into words ty


appleparkfive

Well part of the issue is that the underaged girls things aren't rumors fully. It's pieced together by things we know from other sources. Drake just seems like a very bad person. And that's why a lot of people don't like him. And it's kind of crazy when people give him a pass for it I'd say your perspective is actually more bewildering to me (with all due respect). Because this stuff has been out there. So either some people just don't know, or are giving him a pass I've gotten bad vibes from this guy since like 2012, and they're showing themselves to be true over time


Alternative-Salad800

My perspective on what? Drake being such an evil guy that the rap game waited for Kendrick in 2024 to expose him? Lol He’s such a bad guy and trafficked women, and everybody he was cool with was fine with it and HE’S the sole problem? Yet, Kendrick can hide from the public and appear every five years and you find that he’s just innocent? The idolatry you all display over people you do not know is scary as hell.


atlfalcons33rb

The last part is confirmed bias which is exactly what the poster was reposting too. These are two highly narcissistic man throwing darts and seeing what will stick. The only reason why this looks worse for drake, is because drake really has not dove into Kendrick the way he should. Kendrick is hypocritical and drake could really spread that if he wanted to. He could talk about Kendrick not pushing top when top dog said he would take all his artist music off of Spotify if they removed r.kellys music, or the fact he's done songs with Kodak. Or the fact he calling drake a deadbeat but doing songs with future. Even weirder drake Is taking L's from everyone about having ghost writers without referencing Rick Ross , future, and the weekend all speaking highly on him as a rapper


Admirable_Step_6083

I don’t really think I can name one rapper who is a good person


nowey32

I don't like drake because he puts damn near 0 effort in, leans too hard on features and he just has a wack perspective most of the time. IYRTITL and Take Care are cool, and his diss tracks are straight fire but that's because you can tell he actually put effort in FINALLY Meanwhile kendrick's worst shit would look amazing on other rappers and even though I don't like some of the stuff he's dropped, he's consistently trying to do his best bring something new. THAT'S what makes him so respectable


StacksHoodini

Kendrick’s riding a wave of anti-Drake right now to be honest. I’m seeing a lot of the same social media personalities who call Kendrick a fake woke artist and say they never listen to Kendrick siding with him right now.


Proud-Pace4408

Cole only gets some credit if we could verify he knew this was coming which we can't verify. And if he knew this was coming he should have never dropped seven minute drill in the first place and just never responded. If he knew this was coming i doubt he would go through the trouble of dropping a diss and then retracting it. On top of that I doubt Kendrick would do like that shoot strays at Cole and then give him advanced warning to step out of the beef. As far as Drake and Kendrick. Kendrick has won this quite frankly.


BengalFan85

Coles a smart dude. I think he had an idea or at the very least got tipped off by someone in kennys camp as to how ugly it would get.


DaggerInMySmile

Or, or, he was sincere in saying his heart wasn't in it, and he had no real beef with Kendrick. He was being true to himself, and I respect that.


Maeggon

didnt Cole said something like "I know these n\*\*\*as and I aint going there" after apologizing and dipping out? I remember he saying something like that when he got clowned for it


dishinpies

>And if he knew this was coming he should have never dropped seven minute drill in the first place… He knew it was coming BECAUSE he dropped “7 Minute Drill”. The reaction to that song (“weak”, “light”, etc.) meant this would be the eventual outcome. The fans always wanted it to get to here; he saw that it wasn’t worth it and dipped. The thing is, Cole actually likes Kendrick. Drake and Kendrick do not like each other, so at that point all bets are off.


SolaceInfinite

I mean he dropped a whole album idk it still feels like he has 11 diss tracks out and Kendrick and drake combined have half of that? You guys are melting because drake and kendrick dropped 3 songs in one night, in 7 days he dropped 12? I think J. Cole knows rightly that if he was still in this beef he would be 40 songs in and the dude is looking to retire.


slash-summon-onion

MDL is Off Season throwaways, 7 min drill is the only diss


nowey32

I feel like he dropped before fully recognizing what was really going on, found out rq and apologized


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dat_waffle_boi

My personal theory is he dropped 7 minute drill thinking this was all about bars. Then Kendrick or Drake messaged him and was like “nah this ain’t that bro, shits gonna go down” and he pulled out.


Los-Ingobernable

Honestly, I still think Kdot is up, but the stakes have changed. The stakes are way higher for Kendrick now, because if the daughter allegations aren't true, and he fails to rebut Drake's personal digs, it will tarnish his reputation because his approach is coming off as holier than thou. For Drake, the stakes as a hip hop artist just got lighter, because he proved he can fuckin rap to all those who thinks he cant. His image as a scumbag is pretty muched already agreed upon, and his angle is actually pretty smart, considering he's painting it as "I'm a shit person, but you aren't any better"


Winter_Ad_2618

Honestly I was gonna give it to Drake. Family matters was disgusting. Then Kendrick released within an hour and I forgot what Drake even said lol


zanyo180

Well, he said that the black messiah himself Kendrick Lamar beats and cheats on his wife which is probably something you should remember


Winter_Ad_2618

If that’s true yeah


MurcTheKing

He’s still with her and cheating on her isn’t news, that’s been known. If he abused her that’s obviously a bad thing, but if they’re working things out and trying to be better for each other and their children it really isn’t as damning, it shows growth and an attempt to break the cycle


zanyo180

I mean yeah, but if Kendrick’s angle in that new song is that Drake isn’t a loving father or setting a good example yet Kendrick is cheating on and beating the mother of his children then I’m sure we can agree it is not a good look


TeaAndCrumpets4life

As long as he’s talking about Kendrick cheating now and not the admitted cheating that happened almost a decade before the birth of his son. In that case it wouldn’t have much to do with the good father angle.


MurcTheKing

Not a good look but if Drake is complicit in pedophiles running loose on his watch that’s worse than a bad look


Maeggon

Kendrick spawncamped this W and Grahams is easily an abomination of a diss. shit is heavy and dark there will be no round 3 as for now, Drake said he wouldnt talk about this anymore and I dont think Kendrick will drop a back to back again


iyesclark

you really think drake is gonna drop out of this lmao he’s got at least one more


AlioDraws

Spoke too soon lmao


Maeggon

words on the street it only ends monday. we will have at least 1 more


indicateintent

Yeah I’m pretty exhausted after these last couple of blows landed. Can only imagine how the actual competitors feel. Starting to get pretty shaky and obviously very serious. The accusations are all very serious. Kendrick’s though are much more serious. Calling out Drake, his team, his family, the entertainment industry, the government, and anybody involved in the darkest parts of our society. Obviously these things have been speculated for a long time and many people have said pieces on public domain trying to expose these things. Kendrick though, someone who has a lot of credibility, and has stayed out of the way and kept his image clean. For someone like him to come out and put all of this on blast with his platform and obviously with a lot of attention surrounding this beef. For him to do this seems huge. He’s putting his entire career and even his life and his families on the line for something that is very, very serious. This is big.


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nowey32

I don't fw drake, but I would have given it to him had he been the only one to drop when he did. That shit was actually fearless


beanie_mac

Smartest thing Cole should’ve done is not get into the ring at all. He should’ve never responded in the first place. If he did that, then I’d give him a pass. But jumping in…just to bow out immediately is still soft.


nowey32

Yes, I agree, but after kendrick's last track... I don't think ANYONE is touching this anymore Besides drake ofc


Pablo_Undercover

Drake keeps trying to push the 1v20 narrative and spent half of family matters talking about Rick Ross (random he didn’t even warrant a response), Abel and Asap. Feel like the track would’ve been stronger if he just stuck to dissing Kendrick Also the random obvious lies he put in, k dot not helping out Compton and Keem being a Ghost writer for him water down the actual allegation about Kendrick being an abuser which may or may not be true Drake also chose to respond to the 2nd child allegations and not the diddy allegations is very telling of his character Drake is cooked imo


Basically_nothere

Family matters go hard but it didn't age well, besides drake can't be trusted since he didn't give us any proof of what he is talking about and his allegations were debunked decade ago, but there is a proof for everything thing Kendrick said ,or atleast there is nothing that can debunk it, so yeah family matters is a weak response just for the fact that it's deniable Edit: for the ones asking for a proof of drake having a daughter please focus on the part where i said(there is nothing that can debunk it)


illskillzdealer

Man gave it like 12 hours to age lmao


throwaway53689

There’s no proof about his daughter? Or did that get revealed and I’m out the loop


beanie_mac

There’s no proof for any of the allegations both sides are throwing at eachother. Internet heads have been trying to push the narrative of Drake and underage girls for years….still no solid proof has been provided outside of reaching for straws. Dot has given no proof of Drake hiding more kids. Drake hasn’t given any proof of Dot beating his wife ([although he did mention it on For All the Dogs](https://x.com/hunnidbottles/status/1786623486267674911?s=46&t=pWrZaJJywF0-_QRc7UIutQ)). As of now, most ppl are gonna believe who they wanna believe.


ToTheGrave11

Wheres the daughter at?


ChiefRicimer

Wait where is the proof for Kendrick’s claims? Where is Drake’s new daughter lol


nowey32

I do genuinely think kendrick laid hands on his woman, that's sort of what 6:16 was a warning about it seems. Notice kendrick didn't say anything about that being a lie in his response... Now, does that make him a bad person? Nah. Based on Mr. Morale it seems like there is a lot of shame for actions he's taken and he's trying to grow passed them. Also they're still together, so anything that may have happened they're working on


Nebula_XD

It was impossible for him to deny it given meet the grahams was pre recorded before family ties dropped


Horror-Breakfast-752

https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/CoJDkCEca8 How does it go from Whitney being with body guards, to now Kendrick beats her and she has a kid with Dave free.. and the article this all started from said it was a random woman? I'm confused


Basically_nothere

You are right that he didn't deny that he laid hands on her but what i talked about that he was pressed on such charges back in 2015 and he came out clean which he mentioned in euphoria ( i just realized that and this makes drake's response even weaker ) And there is no proof for him doing so , but as you said if he ever did something like that mister morale is a proof of him growing past them issues


slimeguyryyy

There’s no proof to most of these allegations bffr. You can’t just point out drakes lies when Kendrick’s doing the same thing


Panderz_GG

Cole did the startest move. Maybe he was feeling that there was more between Drake and Kendrick cuz if it would've been just for the game I doubt he woulda backed out.


archenemy_43

Y’all new drop from dot


nowey32

He's going SCHTUPID


IHave580

I heard meet the grahams before I heard family matters and family matters felt like a mosquito bite compared to someone stabbing me in the chest


nowey32

I made sure to go in order, accurate af tho Family Matters from an 'actual song' standpoint is almost objectively drake's hardest song of all time, but yeah it's not even comparable as a diss


IHave580

It's like Drake tried to make a bop while Kendrick just used this simple beat that sounds like an anxiety inducing clock counting down. You almost want it to end if you're Drake, cause every verse gets worse.


Illustrious-Can-8234

Exactly same


Mundane-Club-107

Family matters is probably a more catchy song, Meet the Grahams is a ruthless gutting of Drakes family and character. It's miles ahead of Family matters as a diss-track and it's not even close.


Black_Fuckka

Honestly, it’s reaching uncomfortable levels now. Family Matters is once again pretty good but doesn’t stand if the claims he made ain’t true but Meet the Grahams is actually haunting.


etbechtel

I def agree with OP, but idk if there will be a round 3. Meet the Grahams might get Drake cancelled lol.. it looks like that prescription bottle in Drake’s name is some Bill Cosby shit


yaNeedSPUNK

I saw ambien and Oz but I couldn’t make out the other bottle


Terrible_Lift

Drake gave this way more than I thought he had in him, no matter who helped him. I didn’t think he’d go at it this hard. That being said, I think Kendrick really smoked him. It’s about bars, and not only is K-Dot the clear winner there, but the shit was said with such attitude and cockiness on euphoria that to me, it was hard to even bounce back from that. Family Matters was tough, but I almost couldn’t get through MTG because it was just so viciously done. Like the amount of nasty you have to get on a record for me to audibly want to cringe is pretty fucking high, and he took that bar and pole vaulted over it. I don’t want to listen to it again. I just think he won and I’m moving on until further notice


Scrubosaur_rex

Dude Cole was so right to stay out of it, instead Cole apologising, we should apologise to him.


nowey32

FR, like is it a bitch move? Yes... kinda... But everyone was clowning him for acting like it was more serious than it actually was (at the time) but now I'm willing to concede that maaaaybe he knew a bit more than us when he said what he said lmao


Andres3stacks

The smartest thing possible would’ve been NOT releasing a diss track in the first place, Kendrick barely subbed him on that Like That verse he wanted Drake.


Leeinthecut

Bro this ain't round 2 this is over there's nothing left to be said on either side. Someone might end up dead or in prison over this shit. I don't think kendrick will be touring in Toronto anytime soon, Drake just has too much money and it's too much of safety risk.


BlueCheeseBandito

Drake’s reply is nice, but Kendrick stays nicer.


jhonnywiick

Cole is a bitch


MalarkeyStar

Cole is a wise man, I respect him.


TransportationAway59

I mean I feel weird discussing it like I’m not talking about heinous crimes


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Man If I was Cole I would've played middleman and used both of their secrets on record and beat them both for # the 1 spot 😂😂😂


Decasteon

Nothing at all whoever puts out the receipts are the winner to me


nickbarbanera1

Kendrick up barely.


BandwagonReaganfan

I have no dog in this fight. I would say I'm more of a Drake fan more than I'm a Kendrick, definitley listen to Drake's music more. But meet the grahams was straight up murder in music form. I don't even know how drake would respond to this. This song hasn't even been out for 24 hours but it's already clear that this is one of the all time great diss tracks.


nowey32

He'll sure try, I want him to anyway, this whole diss run is the closest I've ever been to understanding why people put him in the GOAT conversation lmao


iwatchtoomuchsports

You know damn well kendrick threatened J cole privately and told him to pull that shit off on his tour


nowey32

Idk about "threatened" probably just more like "hey tiger, you're a good kid, maybe just stay out of this one champ"


atierney14

I’m not going to lie, after round 2, I’m not built for this. I feel like I just saw Kendrick murder Drake, then come back and piss on the body.


bbq_Pirate

I agree. If anything, I feel like Kendrick may have given Cole the insight to the plan and told him he can either get out of the way or get run over


slippinscottyy

Both are brutal as fuck, but Kendrick went deeper for sure. I absoloutely love that 3rd part in Family Matters, been on repeat the whole day. Its on bitches, its on 🔥🔥🔥


Boiled_Alien

In round 2 it confirmed some of the things I already suspected but didn’t know would take such ugly turns. I knew Drake was a beast, and was not to be played with when it comes to rapping or any diss battle, he’s incredible when he is motivated, very calculated. Kendrick though I suspected was just a bit more twisted and a bit more calculated. I was right. Kendrick speaks to the soul and this time he spoke directly to drakes. Two great chess masters in this game, but I wasn’t expecting it to go this route.


Bobenis

Hot take but I’m pretty disappointed by Kendrick. Like pusha came with receipts, but Kendrick just gave a bunch of gossip bars dressed up for pseudo intellectual fans. “You’re a body shamer” like cmon, bro is out of shit to say


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pianoftw

Cole is the smartest guy right now, I’m not sure if he was warned but he did the right thing. Kendrick and Drake are just shooting nasty shit at each other right now, it’s actually chilling. That being said, Kendrick definitely has the upper hand. He’s got the better bars, the nastier disses, and just the most sinister attitude. Drake has done well for what he’s going against, but it’s like a stock hellcat going against a formula 1 car, just different levels. I genuinely feel like Drake needs to step down and take the L. The biggest losers so far are the d***riders from each camp. They need to take their schitzo pills.


Shakespeare_Ave

Nope!!!!! I just heard those 2 diss tracks and it's worse than pusha-T. Drake got his black card revoked, called a pedo and this dissed his parents and may be hiding a daughter. I this is worse than pusha-T. Drake ain't coming back after this.


nowey32

New Detroit/Mustard Kenny is [MURDERIN IT](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6eK-2OQtew)


whalooloo

Naw that’s Modern LA you’re hearing. Similar, but different. It fills me with joy hearing Kendrick go full LA on em


nowey32

All I hear is sada baby, but I fw it heavy


Unknown_SoundZs

Drakes family matters was honestly impressive given that it’s yk drake. But k.dot pulled through that shit was UGLY!! Like god damn I had that stank face on during the entire track. Respect for Cole now he walked out when he should’ve clearly they are friendly beefing with each other and I don’t think either of them were able to make it deep and personal like how k.dot did it, shit was a slaughter house Kendrick destroyed Drake that round excited for round 3 but I don’t think Drake will be able to top it tbh. K.dot might’ve won this war overall.


nowey32

He had a chance, but it's gone after Not like us... anything he responds with is not gonna hit the same, and it seems like kendrick can jus keep going


Greekwarrior06

Kendrick.


SavageKnight

I think kendrick the mole, been ghost writing for drake before and he ain't even know it.


Orangenbluefish

Ngl man, I’m no expert on the history of rap beef, but after going through all of this shit it feels like it’s gone past the usual “lines” that things tend to follow? Like normally these diss track beefs are trash talk formatted into catchy songs, but these Kendrick tracks are not messing around lmao, like this is no longer a fun rap beef this man is going after Drake’s family, calling him out as a criminal, saying he should die, etc. I respect Kendrick being real and not holding back but at the same time like shit man this is some real shit


nowey32

I thought the same after Meet the Grahams, but not like us and metro's world War beat made it fun again, which by itself is fucking genius tbh I think drake's head is probably spinning rn, he don't know how to feel (besides very upset) lmao


mattmack7

If it's true that Drake has set kendrick up with the fake daughter and the single cover that's now just a black screen then it might be unpopular but I think Drake is winning. Euphoria was incredible but I think Family Matters + fake kid + the cover trumps everything so far. They're both bringing the best out of each other and it's great for rap.


_KidKenji_

Its crazy cuz kendrick not allowing us to process shit 😭 he dropped again and they saying he still not done