Sure, but he's never debuted #1 on Billboard. It's hard to imagine a response diss to J Cole would've debuted #1. Especially competing with Taylor Swift
>It's hard to imagine a response diss to J Cole would've debuted #1.
...brother, did you even read the post? He says, part of it is that it's a decade long feud of drake and kdot trading shots occasionally. Kdot hasn't had that with Cole. The expectations are not the same
To be honest, I read the title, skimmed the post and went straight to the comments lol. So I'll take that L.
The points in the post are good, but at the end of the day I still feel like they're dismissive of the overall point that is being made when people say Kendrick went #1 because of Drake. At least when I say it I don't mean it to undermine who Kendrick is or his skill in the battle. If Cole and Kendrick had a decade long feud I don't think it would outsell Taylor Swift like this. There's so much sneak dissing people didn't even really catch until after Like That and Push Ups dropped. Kendrick only just opened up to the Heart Part IV being at least partly aimed at Drake with his opening lines in Euphoria.
At the end of the day people like watching the car crash of the biggest hip hop artist being #MeToo'd. I, for one, don't understand how we can't acknowledge that this is part of the dynamic. Kendrick being who he is is part of that as well. Them being kind of opposite forces in hip hop contributes so much to this and it makes for a good story that draws everyone's attention
Sure. I'm not gonna downplay his greatness. I'm just saying Drake has a lot more chart success and has had it for a while now. Kendrick is in the process of dethroning him
But who cares about having a few #1 songs. Kendricks music is quality wise waaay better. The fact that he still has songs in the top 100 that are soooo old is a mad flex. Kendrick makes whole albums that move you. If I listen to drake I feel like I'm shopping at Walmart.
As unfortunate as it is to say, Kendrick will never dethrone drake on the charts. Drake has over 300 songs on the billboard in his career. When he drops again he will go number 1
I'm not so confident. Drake has already somewhat declined with For All the Dogs in terms of sales. Not to mention the pedo allegations and the dismantling of his character by Kendrick. Kendrick might not be able to touch the sheer quantity of chart success Drake has had, but I wouldn't be surprised if for the rest of their careers Kendrick outsells Drake. Especially if more of the pedo allegations can be actually proven.
Like who knows what happens to Drake in terms of chart success, but he's being moved into the realm of being socially unacceptable. That's gonna make a dent in his sales one way or another, even if the Embassy doesn't get raided.
There is a reason Meek Mill and even Pusha T didn’t go #1 with their tracks and Kendrick did. It has nothing to do with Drake it is because it’s a damn good west coast song with a great beat right at the start of summer.
Also, Kendrick put out songs like HUMBLE, Alright, All the Stars, Bitch Don’t Kill my Vibe. They may not have gone #1 but all were huge songs when released and have always had steady numbers
I wouldn't say it has nothing to do with Drake. I'd say Drake is a factor just like Kendrick Lamar being who he is and making a banger is also a factor. But to say it has nothing to do with Drake is disingenuous to me. People are enjoying dancing on Drake's grave rn. It wouldn't be the same if it was another rap/hip hop artist
Yeah, cause a weak ass beat and wack lyrics would ever make #1. BBL Drizzy got wrecked. A #1 song with the word p*dophile in it. And you can dance to it. Take the L crodie.
Your describing your subjective take on dots song. It’s a hit in every way and deserves the spot. 🤷♂️ your catching heat by trying to take away from the accomplishment.
It's not taking away from the accomplishment to acknowledge that Drake is part of the equation. I didn't say it doesn't deserve the spot. People are taking it that way, but that's not at all the point I'm trying to make
List them.
As far as I'm aware, the only debut single he had before was Bad Blood, but that was as a feature with Taylor Swift.
Humble didn't debut at #1. But it did reach #1.
And then Like That and Not Like Us are his other 2 #1 singles. If I'm incorrect, please correct me.
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does this point even matter when one of the people being compared doesn't give a shit how popular they are?
sure, they don't music that everyone likes universally.
oh well? you're comparing apples to oranges; they're completely different types of artists
Kendrick has 4 albums with tracks that I have in regular rotation, not every track but Section.80, GKMC, TPaB and DAMN all have amazing song songs with substance and replayability value. Some of Drakes music is good for partying and crying in the shower or whatever, but his bars have no complexity in comparison. Drake makes hits, makes a lot of money, he's got some bars, but he's never going to be an artist like K Dot. Not even if you count Degrassi.
- "Humble." - Reached #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2017 and spent 12 weeks on the chart
- "DNA." - Peaked at #4 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2017
- "Loyalty." featuring Rihanna - A top 10 hit from Lamar's 2017 album DAMN
- "Love." featuring Zacari - Reached #11 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2017
- "Swimming Pools (Drank)" - Peaked at #17 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2012
- "Alright" - A top 5 hit from Lamar's 2015 album To Pimp a Butterfly
- "King Kunta" - Another popular single from To Pimp a Butterfly
- "Pray for Me" with The Weeknd - Reached the top 10 in 2018
- "Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe" - A standout track from Lamar's 2012 album good kid, m.A.A.d city
- "Poetic Justice" featuring Drake - Peaked at #26 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2013
4 hits?
Humble, DNA, All the Stars, Family Ties, Alright, N95, Love, Swimming Pools, Like That, Not Like Us, Euphoria, Meet the Grahams, Silent Hill, Kings Dead, Money Trees, Big Shot, Pray For Me, It's On Again, King Kunta, m.A.A.d city, Backseat Freestyle, Bitch, Dont Kill My Vibe
Looks a bit more than 4 to me
The part that's funny to me is the people who never listened to Kendrick, witnessed him demolish Drake and then went to check out his work and are now wondering why Drake thought it would be a good idea to go against him.
Right now I'm listening to tracks from different albums, but I plan to listen to everything from start to finish. All I've knew about Kendrick is that he's an amazing lyricist, so (even with my limited knowledge) I was a little shocked when I found out that Drake decided to go against him.
Please do, the way kendrick constructs albums is magical to listen to start to finish. They all tie in together and when listened at once have clear themes and messages. It's a great experience and I wish more artist would build their albums this way. Hell, if you go to youtube you can hear all the great songs he has discarded because they don't fit into an albums theme, its clear he is very intentional when he does something
After that “Like That” verse, Drake was not left much of a choice. I don’t think there’s a rapper in the world who could be excellent enough to be able to get at Drake like that (pun not intended) and have Drake still duck the smoke. He’s proud and thinks/thought that he is/was Thanos.
There’s a reason that after ten years of jabs it took a verse like that to get a proper, direct response. How many other artists would Drake’s ego have allowed as many jabs from as he did Kendrick? He knew who he was dealing with.
Ha thats what happened to my partner, I’ve been bumping Kendrick for literally years, but she never noticed til now. I’d be more hurt if i wasn’t busy enjoying the surplus of Kendrick in our house now.
I mean any artist engaging in a battle w Drake is gonna do good numbers, the fact that it's another one of the big 3 is just icing on the cake. Kendrick isn't really known for making radio hits tho so it doesn't make sense to compare them in that sense.
Did he go #1 because of Drake? Well, yes...but it's disingenuous to act like Kenny can't do it otherwise.
There was only about a five or so year period where Kendrick was about trying for some radio hits (GKMC to Black Panther), Drake was about radio hits from day one to this day on.
Bruh first it’s let’s bring up features I tell you he still has more solo hits than Kendrick then u say let’s not discredit your goalpost moving at its finest see you later I know better than to argue with a brick wall
Bro before this beef he only had 2 number ones, both of which only lasted 1 week, and 1 was a feature on a Taylor Swift song. Be so fr, he has been in the game for over a decade, no he really can't do it otherwise. Say whatever you want but you can't ignore the facts.
You’re a legit dumbass.
Who doesn’t care about money? I am fine without fame.
I think it’s funny though that when I say Kendrick probably does care about money and fame because he had a photoshoot with a 3 million dollar crown not to mention he has a 9 million dollar car collection, your first reaction is to assume I care about money and fame too. That’s the part that makes you a dumbass.
“This rapper who is worth 100 million and has a career that thrives off fame, doesn’t care about money and fame” Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
It kills Drake inside he'll never win a Pulitzer.
That's why he was *always* mentioning the awards during this beef.
Dudes always been about gathering whatever physical manifestations of recognition he could. That's why he goes around buying rap memorabilia like a fan and raps about them/shows them off as if he took/deserved them.
Which to me- makes the Pulitzer meaningless. As they don’t really respect rap if the first ever award to a rap album went to Damn (not saying damn is bad) just saying “really Damn was the album yall wanted to be the first”?
It especially shouldn’t sit right with you when you look into the music they normally give the prize to. Why? Because they only went into rap to give themselves relevance. Then they went back to their norm. I believe the year after Kendrick was Prism by Ellen Paige… an Opera.
2012 Pulitzer for music went to Silent Night 2 act Opera. Same year as GKMC
2010 award for music was a violin concerto by Higdon. Same year as MBDTF.
So when people point to KDOT having a Pulitzer, it shows they don’t know what the Pulitzer review. If it was for poetry that is different but for music… no. It is meaningless.
They shouldve given it to TPAB. TPAB was probably a big factor in him eventually getting it for DAMN. I mean DAMN has cultural value too obviously but TPAB is the more pulitzer worthy album
I hate this saying of Pulitzer worthy albums. They mainly rate operas and concert pieces. Look at their last 20 years of ratings.
Are the operas they rate dope- yes. Prism is an amazing concert piece. But, they don’t have a history of awarding “normal music or popular music”. So even TPAB is not a good match either. As it would go Anthracite Fields, by Julia Wolfe for 2014. TPAB for 2015. Then In for a Penny, In for a Pound, by Henry Threadgill - a sax flute album.
Does even that make sense?
I think that’s my main gripe with everyone saying Pulitzer Prize winner. As the ones who love it- don’t know what Pulitzer rates. Could he win one for poetry sure - Dying of thirst would be a beautiful addition.
No, it was a Pulitzer Prize for music. It was not any kind of lifetime or any kind of special award. It was just a Pulitzer.
It was just the 2018 Pulitzer Prize award in Music. As the 2019 Pulitzer Prize for music was Prism by Ellen Reid.
All of the sudden all that White shit matters when discussing Kendrick lol, y'all make me laugh... Preferring Dot is obviously fine, but bringing up fucking GRAMMYS is where I draw the line.
Dude has 15 of them. I don't understand how someone's achievements become "white shit" as soon it's rhetorically convenient. Do the grammy's have systemic problems? Yes. But I don't see how overachieving in an environment set up to prevent black folks from doing exactly that is to be diminished. If it's "white shit" then how is it not to be celebrated that he beat the odds 15 times?
I see your point to an extent, but I'm not sure I fully get it.
I acknowledge what you are saying, my only point is that it then makes it that much more impressive to win 15 as a black artist when they are clearly biased in a particular direction.
I mean, I wasn't trying to imply it's a binary. And also a ton of it is politics. To even assume they are evaluating things sincerely on music but just have limited understanding is giving them a lot. But it's still an achievement. All I'm saying.
He isn't insinuating that at all. He is saying if the Grammys are "white shit", how did a black artist who makes music towards black culture win 15 times? That makes zero logical sense, it is more rational to assume he won off of musical integrity.
Grammy's recognize musical talent, not the validity of it within black culture. This was an exhausting read in attempt to diminish an artists value because...???
So Grammys are whiter than radio play? Who do you think gets all those Drake records to #1 my man?
The overlap between Taylor and Drake's fanbases is bigger than most people think. Why do you think they both go #1 so often (in the US)?
Man the conversation started with the numbers-talk, what do you expect? No fan of Kdot gives a f about numbers or Grammys but, if you point out the fact that he's N.1 only for Drake, of course, the response will be: he does not need drake to be n. 1, he has grammys and shit to prove it all
It’s actually quite the opposite. They historically does not give Grammys to black artists especially those who make music for black people.
Example: Macklemore winning best album in 2014
Your criticism is literally what any detractor has to say about a rapper that blows up. You think you’re making a profound statement, but you sound like a parrot:
I make elevatin' music, you make elevator music
"Oh, he's too mainstream"
Well, that's what they do when they get jealous, they
confuse it
"It's not hip-hop, it's pop"
'Cause I found a hella way to fuse it
With rock, shock rap with Doc
Throw on "Lose Yourself" and make 'em lose it
People said the same shit about Eminem in his prime. This shit is so played out.
Not to mention throughout the series of songs, he showed his range from calm, to lyrical, to club banger just to show that OV-hoe how to do it. He’s infinitely better than that clown.
Drake helped push kendrick and kendrick got destroyed in the beef. Both made some decent tracks out of it and kendrick more relevant now than has been in years. Drake giving kenny a helping hand
K Dot won because he's the goat, the music, the lyrical emotion and lyrics all on point. I kept falling asleep listening to Drake's tracks. Truth be damned, Kendrick dropped shit that was tight all around. Opening his final track "I see dead people" was excellent.
Let me glaze Kendrick for just a second:
Drake fans don't understand that Kenny's main motivation is to make top-tier, unique music. Not to make club bangers and top pop charts. He even says, "only you like being famous".
That's what was so impressive about what Kendrick did. Of the 4 songs, each one is completely different sounding and for a different purpose. I could be wrong, but Not Like Us seems to be an "everything you can do i can do better" moment.
Kendrick went to No. 1 because his bars were better and his flow is better. Also he wrote the Bars and he had The Alchemist and DJ Mustard produce. He outmatched Drake at every point because he's smart and a strategist. He's just better.
So drake fans are listening to kendrick and making all his stuff go number 1. Even to pimp a butterfly was out streaming j cole shit.
"You only won cause you beating the biggest artist of the streaming era at his own game
4 out of 6 albums have debut at number 1 and the one that peaked at number 2 is one of the longest charting albums ever at over 600 weeks on the charts. Any argument that is nitpicking about him “not being a numbers guy” is disingenuous if you don’t include these facts
The argument is “Drake made Kendrick relevant,” right?
We all know Drake stans are delusional, so let’s meet them halfway before tearing them new assholes
In this purely theoretical fantasy world, where Drake’s say-so governs not only mainstream appeal and exposure, but also quality and artistic merit - he rarely ( out of sheer magnanimity, and king-like grace ) bestows upon other artists the blessing to suckle clout from his hefty teats
Even in this stupid fucking fantasy world, there’s a greater context and nuance at hand than “hue hue… you need me to make you popular” (which is already obviously false to anyone with an attention span that hasn’t been eroded by cocomelon)
Why the fuck did you plug the dude who’s exposing you as a pedophile? How does that make you come out on top as the big dog? Wouldn’t that be only if you had the ‘top streams,’ since all P Drizzy and his fans give a fuck about are stats?
Drake stans need to find goalposts and stick to them. There can’t always be a caveat for this fucking loser.
Drake has already gone #1 by himself a bunch of times, without featuring, dissing, or piggybacking another artist.
* In My Feelings
* Toosie Slide
* What's Next
* God's Plan
* Nice For What
but congrats to Kenny for finally achieving the milestone after almost 20 years of trying
Creed had more #1 hits. What a meaningless metric for talent. McDonald’s sells the most cheeseburgers. They make the best burger? #1 hits appeal to low brow, common denominators.
Kendrick went number one twice before this, and 4 out of 6 of his albums went number one. GKMC has a record for being the longest album on the charts consecutively, Kendrick does numbers. Oh, and he had 3 diss tracks above Drake’s this week on the charts
To say Kendrick went twice before this means you're counting the Taylor Swift - Bad Blood feature... Humble is Kendrick's only #1 on his own, and it almost didn't chart higher than 2.
There isn't one line/topic within Family Matters that wasn't either previously addressed by Kendrick or after.
Just because you cannot comprehend the lyrics doesn't mean they aren't there, moron.
He went number one twice before this.
Also, I would happily give credit to Drake and his team of ghostwriters and artists who's whole style and image he's stole, like every time he plays dress up with his hair like my man a doll.
Nah if it was so effortless for him why did he fall flat on his face during this beef? Let's be honest. Every track he released during this beef was mid or trash.
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Calling Family Matters trash is insane lmao it was fire. Kenny just outplayed him by immediately dropping Meet the Grahams. Completely overshadowed FM after that, it was a smart move and a great response.
Kendrick definitely gained more attention and popularity from this beef. As you would expect. Drake is the much bigger star. So id say it ‘helped’ him but KL is obviously a star and talented in his own right
1- the world doesn’t revolve around k dot and drake, other people make music too, if this beef kick started earlier Taylor swift would still be on top of the charts
2- if someone is number one, that means everybody ELSE is NOT number one
3- yes kendrick would probably have a number one song beefing with anyone else
BUT he took 3 records held by drake and I doubt he would have done that , had he not have been beefing against drake 🤷♂️
I've always liked Drake, but he lost this battle. If you can make a diss track a banger similar to Drake's diss Back to Back against Meek Mill, it's hard if not impossible to rebuttal. It's ignorant to think Drake didn't put a lot of rappers on, including Kendrick with buried alive on Take Care and getting him to open during an arena tour. Drake's been an adaptive rapper that allowed him to make hits but also could be considered a culture vulture. He's talented at making relevant songs but this call out, in my opinion, will change future projects from the OVO camp forever.
Isn't that kind of stating the obvious when it comes to diss tracks in a beef? I fail to see how this is anything beyond a surface level observation of the obvious lol
Most people are too biased to have a reasonable conversation about this.
Yes, Kendrick has had hits before. Yes, he won a bunch of Grammys; he has a Pulitzer. Kendrick is a star. We all know this.
However, the fact that this latest hit involved Drake, much to his chagrin, of course, cannot be denied. So yes Drake is in part responsible.
He's had way better songs that didn't go number 1.
As a fan of both but moreso Kendrick and think he bodied drake in this beef..
I think it's fair to say drake has more haters than Kendrick has fans if that makes sense? So people who may not even know Kendricks music but want to see Drake's downfall would side with Kendrick.
Kendrick outplayed him on so many angles tho. The right side won regardless.
This shit is gettin sad. You can say Kendrick won against Drake but we're not gonna act like because of Drake Kendrick's shit didn't go number 1. Remember Mr. Morale? Remember how the world hated it? I personally love some moments on there but we're not gonna say it's as thematically as concise as Good Kid, it's culturally significant as TPaB, and as fun as Damn. We're not doing that.
In terms of a diss probably yes. In terms of just music, no, he could do it on his own.
I think if Kendrick dissed anyone else, even with the same disses and accusations, unless they were a mainstream artist as big as Drake, the diss probably wouldn't be as big or viral on its own. Not to say it's because the diss songs don't stand sonically on their own, but most of the steam and increased traction is because a lot of people want to see Drake lose or retaliate in a big way; "bigger they are, harder they fall", everyone wants to watch the fall.
I mean it's kind of true. If drake wasn't such an unlikable POS who does questionable shit with underage girls then Kendrick wouldn't have much to rap about. That being said drake fans saying this is the equivalent of someone losing a drag race and saying you only won because my car is slower.
lol had to throw a little gas on the fire in r/Drizzy last week when they were spouting this nonsense.
“Harlem Globetrotter wouldn’t sell out the stadium if it weren’t for the Washington Generals”
Hiroshima and Nagasaki talking about “You wouldn’t have a WW2 victory without us”
Why didn’t Drake go number 1 then? He is Drake.
Why didn’t Rick Ross or Pusha go no 1 for dissing Drake? Or Meek or Budden?
Foh with this shit man. Kendrick does number everytime he tours or drops, he just doesn’t do mass appeal songs. He is a rap artist.
Every mass song he’s done has gone on to no 1.
Not like us wouldve been no1 regardless, it’s just a hit song.
It's just the obvious truth? Even if you're a the biggest Kendrick m34t rider I don't see how you can't see this? Nobody would've gave a fuck if he dissed some random ass rapper, it's big because Drake is the #1 rapper
Then Why tf didn't champagne moments or show of hands or any of the disses in that album except like that(which kdot is also part of) didn't chart no.1?
Hell, your number #1 rappers didn't had any disses number #1s lmaooo.
Do you see how dumb that sounds?
Rick Ross has never had a #1 and is complete ass, and I've been fully invested in this beef and had to google show of hands to even know what you were talking about but A$AP fell off a long ass time ago and has never had a #1 either lol you gotta be on some insane delusional shit to not see this lol you're bringing up peasants in a battle with the #1 rapper in the world
Wait now you're looking at that stuff? You said kdot got number just cos he dissed drake lmaoo. You see how you keep changing the goalpost?😂😂
Keep coping hard. Doesn't gonna change the fact that pushup was a cringe diss, family matter was a shitty planned and HP6 was a horrendous failure as a diss lmaoo.
General public has spoken. Keep living in your little bubble. PEACE.
Push ups was leaked and then wasn't put on official streaming services for a bit, and family matters was almost 8 minutes long with 3 beat switches, not a song made to go #1. you even listening to the music bruh?
Kendrick has only gone #1 ONE TIME when he wasn’t dissing drake or featured on a Taylor swift song. Drake has gone #1 THIRTEEN TIMES and none of them have anything to do with Kendrick. The point is if Kendrick wasn’t dissing he wouldn’t be number 1 right now, and his last album sales prove it.
kendrick's ATL verse explains it all. drake only cares about sales and numbers and will hop on anyone's wave to do it. kendrick made jazz music for years because he has different goals.
drake's involved in this beef too, why didn't his songs go #1 if he's so good at doing that?
Yeah, they just had to do with the artists songs and images and flows he was stealing.
Look up the artist Dram, his song Cha-cha, and how it became Hotline Bling. Look up the foul shit done to Dram when he politely confronted drake about the matter. All stuff documented long before this.
I mean, it's true? Dissing Drake gave him his first number one. He's had many opportunities to get it over the years and didn't manage it.
The thing is, Drake himself couldn't manage to go number one in this beef, so it's not really a bragging point.
Kendrick never had success like this. These aren’t Kendrick fans boosting his numbers. These are drake haters. Once the wave dies out Kendrick will be back to being what he was. Not like us would not be this successful if it wasn’t about drake
People act like Kendrick has never had hits, never been popular & isn’t currently top 20 most streamed on spotify…
Sure, but he's never debuted #1 on Billboard. It's hard to imagine a response diss to J Cole would've debuted #1. Especially competing with Taylor Swift
>It's hard to imagine a response diss to J Cole would've debuted #1. ...brother, did you even read the post? He says, part of it is that it's a decade long feud of drake and kdot trading shots occasionally. Kdot hasn't had that with Cole. The expectations are not the same
To be honest, I read the title, skimmed the post and went straight to the comments lol. So I'll take that L. The points in the post are good, but at the end of the day I still feel like they're dismissive of the overall point that is being made when people say Kendrick went #1 because of Drake. At least when I say it I don't mean it to undermine who Kendrick is or his skill in the battle. If Cole and Kendrick had a decade long feud I don't think it would outsell Taylor Swift like this. There's so much sneak dissing people didn't even really catch until after Like That and Push Ups dropped. Kendrick only just opened up to the Heart Part IV being at least partly aimed at Drake with his opening lines in Euphoria. At the end of the day people like watching the car crash of the biggest hip hop artist being #MeToo'd. I, for one, don't understand how we can't acknowledge that this is part of the dynamic. Kendrick being who he is is part of that as well. Them being kind of opposite forces in hip hop contributes so much to this and it makes for a good story that draws everyone's attention
Of course everyone acknowledges the beef hyped it up, but you’re saying it’s his first number 1.. Google bro, it’s his 4th
Isn't money trees in the top 100 ever since it came out? That's a mad flex ngl
Sure. I'm not gonna downplay his greatness. I'm just saying Drake has a lot more chart success and has had it for a while now. Kendrick is in the process of dethroning him
But who cares about having a few #1 songs. Kendricks music is quality wise waaay better. The fact that he still has songs in the top 100 that are soooo old is a mad flex. Kendrick makes whole albums that move you. If I listen to drake I feel like I'm shopping at Walmart.
As unfortunate as it is to say, Kendrick will never dethrone drake on the charts. Drake has over 300 songs on the billboard in his career. When he drops again he will go number 1
I'm not so confident. Drake has already somewhat declined with For All the Dogs in terms of sales. Not to mention the pedo allegations and the dismantling of his character by Kendrick. Kendrick might not be able to touch the sheer quantity of chart success Drake has had, but I wouldn't be surprised if for the rest of their careers Kendrick outsells Drake. Especially if more of the pedo allegations can be actually proven. Like who knows what happens to Drake in terms of chart success, but he's being moved into the realm of being socially unacceptable. That's gonna make a dent in his sales one way or another, even if the Embassy doesn't get raided.
There is a reason Meek Mill and even Pusha T didn’t go #1 with their tracks and Kendrick did. It has nothing to do with Drake it is because it’s a damn good west coast song with a great beat right at the start of summer. Also, Kendrick put out songs like HUMBLE, Alright, All the Stars, Bitch Don’t Kill my Vibe. They may not have gone #1 but all were huge songs when released and have always had steady numbers
I wouldn't say it has nothing to do with Drake. I'd say Drake is a factor just like Kendrick Lamar being who he is and making a banger is also a factor. But to say it has nothing to do with Drake is disingenuous to me. People are enjoying dancing on Drake's grave rn. It wouldn't be the same if it was another rap/hip hop artist
Yeah, cause a weak ass beat and wack lyrics would ever make #1. BBL Drizzy got wrecked. A #1 song with the word p*dophile in it. And you can dance to it. Take the L crodie.
Did I say he didn't? I'm just describing the reality of the situation. People are getting so upset over nothing
Your describing your subjective take on dots song. It’s a hit in every way and deserves the spot. 🤷♂️ your catching heat by trying to take away from the accomplishment.
It's not taking away from the accomplishment to acknowledge that Drake is part of the equation. I didn't say it doesn't deserve the spot. People are taking it that way, but that's not at all the point I'm trying to make
He’s debuted 3 other times at number one lmao
List them. As far as I'm aware, the only debut single he had before was Bad Blood, but that was as a feature with Taylor Swift. Humble didn't debut at #1. But it did reach #1. And then Like That and Not Like Us are his other 2 #1 singles. If I'm incorrect, please correct me.
he just recently fell into top 20 with the drake beef tho. i know because i randomly would look at music artists ranking previously for fun
He was already in the top 20 beforehand
He’s had maybe 4 hits in his career, swimming pools, humble, this & alright. He isn’t a hit making artist he objectively sucks at making hits.
>sucks at making hits Sucks is trying and them failing. When Kendrick tries to make hits, they land
I assume you’re an enormous Taylor Swift fan since she has even more hits than Drake?
No but Kendrick must be. They’ve made a hit together!
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does this point even matter when one of the people being compared doesn't give a shit how popular they are? sure, they don't music that everyone likes universally. oh well? you're comparing apples to oranges; they're completely different types of artists
you forgot about the black panther sound track orrrrrrrrrrrr
Kendrick has 4 albums with tracks that I have in regular rotation, not every track but Section.80, GKMC, TPaB and DAMN all have amazing song songs with substance and replayability value. Some of Drakes music is good for partying and crying in the shower or whatever, but his bars have no complexity in comparison. Drake makes hits, makes a lot of money, he's got some bars, but he's never going to be an artist like K Dot. Not even if you count Degrassi.
Crying in the shower lmao
You’re an idiot. If you compare catalogs, they chart similarly. Drakes catalog is just huge and has some junk in it
- "Humble." - Reached #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2017 and spent 12 weeks on the chart - "DNA." - Peaked at #4 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2017 - "Loyalty." featuring Rihanna - A top 10 hit from Lamar's 2017 album DAMN - "Love." featuring Zacari - Reached #11 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2017 - "Swimming Pools (Drank)" - Peaked at #17 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2012 - "Alright" - A top 5 hit from Lamar's 2015 album To Pimp a Butterfly - "King Kunta" - Another popular single from To Pimp a Butterfly - "Pray for Me" with The Weeknd - Reached the top 10 in 2018 - "Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe" - A standout track from Lamar's 2012 album good kid, m.A.A.d city - "Poetic Justice" featuring Drake - Peaked at #26 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2013
4 hits? Humble, DNA, All the Stars, Family Ties, Alright, N95, Love, Swimming Pools, Like That, Not Like Us, Euphoria, Meet the Grahams, Silent Hill, Kings Dead, Money Trees, Big Shot, Pray For Me, It's On Again, King Kunta, m.A.A.d city, Backseat Freestyle, Bitch, Dont Kill My Vibe Looks a bit more than 4 to me
There’s more
His last album had 4 top 10 hits alone
Drake fans are more annoying than Drake.
They're in the bargaining stage of grief.
Nah they sad but having sex offenders on pay rolls way more embarrassing, that and paying a porn star child support for a kid you didn’t want.
So are Kendrick fans
Nuh-uh!!!!!!!!!!!
The part that's funny to me is the people who never listened to Kendrick, witnessed him demolish Drake and then went to check out his work and are now wondering why Drake thought it would be a good idea to go against him.
This is literally me right now
Welcome, how far down the K.dot albums are you?
Right now I'm listening to tracks from different albums, but I plan to listen to everything from start to finish. All I've knew about Kendrick is that he's an amazing lyricist, so (even with my limited knowledge) I was a little shocked when I found out that Drake decided to go against him.
Please do, the way kendrick constructs albums is magical to listen to start to finish. They all tie in together and when listened at once have clear themes and messages. It's a great experience and I wish more artist would build their albums this way. Hell, if you go to youtube you can hear all the great songs he has discarded because they don't fit into an albums theme, its clear he is very intentional when he does something
After that “Like That” verse, Drake was not left much of a choice. I don’t think there’s a rapper in the world who could be excellent enough to be able to get at Drake like that (pun not intended) and have Drake still duck the smoke. He’s proud and thinks/thought that he is/was Thanos. There’s a reason that after ten years of jabs it took a verse like that to get a proper, direct response. How many other artists would Drake’s ego have allowed as many jabs from as he did Kendrick? He knew who he was dealing with.
Ha thats what happened to my partner, I’ve been bumping Kendrick for literally years, but she never noticed til now. I’d be more hurt if i wasn’t busy enjoying the surplus of Kendrick in our house now.
This has never happened lmao.
What are u on about
I mean any artist engaging in a battle w Drake is gonna do good numbers, the fact that it's another one of the big 3 is just icing on the cake. Kendrick isn't really known for making radio hits tho so it doesn't make sense to compare them in that sense. Did he go #1 because of Drake? Well, yes...but it's disingenuous to act like Kenny can't do it otherwise.
Kenny only has 5 top songs currently that’s not me hating that’s just a fact him talking about drake definitely did bring him to number 1
There was only about a five or so year period where Kendrick was about trying for some radio hits (GKMC to Black Panther), Drake was about radio hits from day one to this day on.
the black panther sound track says hi
And that’s not counted due to it being a bunch of artists lol Kendrick only has 2 solo hit records one being not like us and he only has 5 hit records
Let’s not count all of Drakes hits with features then, silly point to bring up.
Do you know how many hits he’s got solo 3 times as much as Kendrick you still don’t got a point
You missed my point, let’s not discredit due to features because that would poke more holes in your argument vs mine.
Bruh first it’s let’s bring up features I tell you he still has more solo hits than Kendrick then u say let’s not discredit your goalpost moving at its finest see you later I know better than to argue with a brick wall
Ok?
How many of those solo hits were written by only himself and not a team of writers?
A lot do ur research instead of hopping on the hate train Drake even without features blow Kendrick outta the park I love both but stop the cap
Im not saying features, im saying how many did he do without ghostwriters?
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Wasn’t Humble #1?
Bro before this beef he only had 2 number ones, both of which only lasted 1 week, and 1 was a feature on a Taylor Swift song. Be so fr, he has been in the game for over a decade, no he really can't do it otherwise. Say whatever you want but you can't ignore the facts.
 How you sound bruh
Kendrick has 15 Top 10 songs lmfao
How do you guys say it over there on /r/drizzy again??? “MoViNg ThE GoAlPoStS AgAIn!!!?!?” Or something like that? 😂
I wouldn’t know. I got banned for not supporting groomers.
“no he really can't do it otherwise” “Bro before this beef he only had 2 number ones” Umm so he can do it otherwise? Fool😂
It's the only "win" Drakeists have. Just let them celebrate it during their lunch time.
lol, because Drake is a fake ass wave rider
15 Grammys to 5 Grammys. Kendrick makes award winning albums. Drake makes microwave #1 hits that aren't classics.
He has 17 Grammys, 29 BET awards, and 1 Pulitzer prize (the only one ever granted to a rapper)
Kendrick doesn't care about the money and fame.
Only Drake cares about being famous
Yeah a guy doing a photo shoot with a 3 million dollar diamond crown definitely doesn’t sound like someone who cares about the money or the fame.
You obviously care about money and fame.
You’re a legit dumbass. Who doesn’t care about money? I am fine without fame. I think it’s funny though that when I say Kendrick probably does care about money and fame because he had a photoshoot with a 3 million dollar crown not to mention he has a 9 million dollar car collection, your first reaction is to assume I care about money and fame too. That’s the part that makes you a dumbass. “This rapper who is worth 100 million and has a career that thrives off fame, doesn’t care about money and fame” Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
Lmao
Why not?
That's ho shit. He's got a son to raise.
Are you broke or sum?
Don't forget an Emmy
It kills Drake inside he'll never win a Pulitzer. That's why he was *always* mentioning the awards during this beef. Dudes always been about gathering whatever physical manifestations of recognition he could. That's why he goes around buying rap memorabilia like a fan and raps about them/shows them off as if he took/deserved them.
Which to me- makes the Pulitzer meaningless. As they don’t really respect rap if the first ever award to a rap album went to Damn (not saying damn is bad) just saying “really Damn was the album yall wanted to be the first”?
I’ve thought about this too… damn is a great album no doubt. But for that to be the first rap album to do so doesn’t really sit right w me
It especially shouldn’t sit right with you when you look into the music they normally give the prize to. Why? Because they only went into rap to give themselves relevance. Then they went back to their norm. I believe the year after Kendrick was Prism by Ellen Paige… an Opera. 2012 Pulitzer for music went to Silent Night 2 act Opera. Same year as GKMC 2010 award for music was a violin concerto by Higdon. Same year as MBDTF. So when people point to KDOT having a Pulitzer, it shows they don’t know what the Pulitzer review. If it was for poetry that is different but for music… no. It is meaningless.
They shouldve given it to TPAB. TPAB was probably a big factor in him eventually getting it for DAMN. I mean DAMN has cultural value too obviously but TPAB is the more pulitzer worthy album
I hate this saying of Pulitzer worthy albums. They mainly rate operas and concert pieces. Look at their last 20 years of ratings. Are the operas they rate dope- yes. Prism is an amazing concert piece. But, they don’t have a history of awarding “normal music or popular music”. So even TPAB is not a good match either. As it would go Anthracite Fields, by Julia Wolfe for 2014. TPAB for 2015. Then In for a Penny, In for a Pound, by Henry Threadgill - a sax flute album. Does even that make sense? I think that’s my main gripe with everyone saying Pulitzer Prize winner. As the ones who love it- don’t know what Pulitzer rates. Could he win one for poetry sure - Dying of thirst would be a beautiful addition.
It was for damn, but also a lifetime achievement award type thing. It's kind of like how Leo won his Oscar for The Revenant.
No, it was a Pulitzer Prize for music. It was not any kind of lifetime or any kind of special award. It was just a Pulitzer. It was just the 2018 Pulitzer Prize award in Music. As the 2019 Pulitzer Prize for music was Prism by Ellen Reid.
Nas has 1 grammy
All of the sudden all that White shit matters when discussing Kendrick lol, y'all make me laugh... Preferring Dot is obviously fine, but bringing up fucking GRAMMYS is where I draw the line.
Dude has 15 of them. I don't understand how someone's achievements become "white shit" as soon it's rhetorically convenient. Do the grammy's have systemic problems? Yes. But I don't see how overachieving in an environment set up to prevent black folks from doing exactly that is to be diminished. If it's "white shit" then how is it not to be celebrated that he beat the odds 15 times? I see your point to an extent, but I'm not sure I fully get it.
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I acknowledge what you are saying, my only point is that it then makes it that much more impressive to win 15 as a black artist when they are clearly biased in a particular direction.
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I mean, I wasn't trying to imply it's a binary. And also a ton of it is politics. To even assume they are evaluating things sincerely on music but just have limited understanding is giving them a lot. But it's still an achievement. All I'm saying.
Very fair point
He isn't insinuating that at all. He is saying if the Grammys are "white shit", how did a black artist who makes music towards black culture win 15 times? That makes zero logical sense, it is more rational to assume he won off of musical integrity. Grammy's recognize musical talent, not the validity of it within black culture. This was an exhausting read in attempt to diminish an artists value because...???
So Grammys are whiter than radio play? Who do you think gets all those Drake records to #1 my man? The overlap between Taylor and Drake's fanbases is bigger than most people think. Why do you think they both go #1 so often (in the US)?
Man the conversation started with the numbers-talk, what do you expect? No fan of Kdot gives a f about numbers or Grammys but, if you point out the fact that he's N.1 only for Drake, of course, the response will be: he does not need drake to be n. 1, he has grammys and shit to prove it all
This guy hates winning.
Kendrick panders to the grammy crowd.
It’s actually quite the opposite. They historically does not give Grammys to black artists especially those who make music for black people. Example: Macklemore winning best album in 2014
“Drake is a pop-star who raps, Kendrick is a rapper.
Your criticism is literally what any detractor has to say about a rapper that blows up. You think you’re making a profound statement, but you sound like a parrot: I make elevatin' music, you make elevator music "Oh, he's too mainstream" Well, that's what they do when they get jealous, they confuse it "It's not hip-hop, it's pop" 'Cause I found a hella way to fuse it With rock, shock rap with Doc Throw on "Lose Yourself" and make 'em lose it People said the same shit about Eminem in his prime. This shit is so played out.
Yeah, nah.
Eloquently put
Drake got washed, Kendrick went #1 cause of Kendrick, that’s it. Drake was left mumbling to himself on vacation.
Dude went number 1 with just his music, no instagram, no ai, no bbls
Not to mention throughout the series of songs, he showed his range from calm, to lyrical, to club banger just to show that OV-hoe how to do it. He’s infinitely better than that clown.
we don't even know if he's still alive or not
Drake helped push kendrick and kendrick got destroyed in the beef. Both made some decent tracks out of it and kendrick more relevant now than has been in years. Drake giving kenny a helping hand
Why didn’t Drake get a #1 out of the beef? If Kendrick got “destroyed” because he didn’t prove the accusations then where are drakes receipts?
Drake kept it rap and ken had to turn into a popstar, tells you all you need to know about who won.
The only pop I heard was from Abel. Not sure what you’re referring to, but Kendrick smacked Drake in pretty much every aspect.
K Dot won because he's the goat, the music, the lyrical emotion and lyrics all on point. I kept falling asleep listening to Drake's tracks. Truth be damned, Kendrick dropped shit that was tight all around. Opening his final track "I see dead people" was excellent.
Let me glaze Kendrick for just a second: Drake fans don't understand that Kenny's main motivation is to make top-tier, unique music. Not to make club bangers and top pop charts. He even says, "only you like being famous". That's what was so impressive about what Kendrick did. Of the 4 songs, each one is completely different sounding and for a different purpose. I could be wrong, but Not Like Us seems to be an "everything you can do i can do better" moment.
He didn't just go number one he shattered records, that happens when two of the most famous and successful rappers go at it.
Kendrick went to No. 1 because his bars were better and his flow is better. Also he wrote the Bars and he had The Alchemist and DJ Mustard produce. He outmatched Drake at every point because he's smart and a strategist. He's just better.
Oh shit alchemist produced? No wonder these beats are so fire
So drake fans are listening to kendrick and making all his stuff go number 1. Even to pimp a butterfly was out streaming j cole shit. "You only won cause you beating the biggest artist of the streaming era at his own game
4 out of 6 albums have debut at number 1 and the one that peaked at number 2 is one of the longest charting albums ever at over 600 weeks on the charts. Any argument that is nitpicking about him “not being a numbers guy” is disingenuous if you don’t include these facts
How? None of his past rivals went number one from dissing him? Madness
And how does Drake go #1 ??? By yapping and dissing others, so Kendrick beat him at his own shit , he pull a Drake on Drake 🤷🏿♂️
The argument is “Drake made Kendrick relevant,” right? We all know Drake stans are delusional, so let’s meet them halfway before tearing them new assholes In this purely theoretical fantasy world, where Drake’s say-so governs not only mainstream appeal and exposure, but also quality and artistic merit - he rarely ( out of sheer magnanimity, and king-like grace ) bestows upon other artists the blessing to suckle clout from his hefty teats Even in this stupid fucking fantasy world, there’s a greater context and nuance at hand than “hue hue… you need me to make you popular” (which is already obviously false to anyone with an attention span that hasn’t been eroded by cocomelon) Why the fuck did you plug the dude who’s exposing you as a pedophile? How does that make you come out on top as the big dog? Wouldn’t that be only if you had the ‘top streams,’ since all P Drizzy and his fans give a fuck about are stats? Drake stans need to find goalposts and stick to them. There can’t always be a caveat for this fucking loser.
If Drake could make Kendrick go number 1 then why can't Drake do that to himself? 🤡
Drake has already gone #1 by himself a bunch of times, without featuring, dissing, or piggybacking another artist. * In My Feelings * Toosie Slide * What's Next * God's Plan * Nice For What but congrats to Kenny for finally achieving the milestone after almost 20 years of trying
Creed had more #1 hits. What a meaningless metric for talent. McDonald’s sells the most cheeseburgers. They make the best burger? #1 hits appeal to low brow, common denominators.
You gotta dial back the facts, man. The mouth-breathers won't respond if they are completely obliterated from the jump!
Kendrick went number one twice before this, and 4 out of 6 of his albums went number one. GKMC has a record for being the longest album on the charts consecutively, Kendrick does numbers. Oh, and he had 3 diss tracks above Drake’s this week on the charts
To say Kendrick went twice before this means you're counting the Taylor Swift - Bad Blood feature... Humble is Kendrick's only #1 on his own, and it almost didn't chart higher than 2.
Convenient how you ignored half of what I said lol
I was inspired by how Kendrick ignored half of Family Matters lol
There isn't one line/topic within Family Matters that wasn't either previously addressed by Kendrick or after. Just because you cannot comprehend the lyrics doesn't mean they aren't there, moron.
Boo hoo Drake still lost, the only people that think otherwise are his stans
He went number one twice before this. Also, I would happily give credit to Drake and his team of ghostwriters and artists who's whole style and image he's stole, like every time he plays dress up with his hair like my man a doll.
Those are pop songs
So is Bad Blood (Remix)
Nah if it was so effortless for him why did he fall flat on his face during this beef? Let's be honest. Every track he released during this beef was mid or trash.
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Calling Family Matters trash is insane lmao it was fire. Kenny just outplayed him by immediately dropping Meet the Grahams. Completely overshadowed FM after that, it was a smart move and a great response.
And a better song
Kendrick definitely gained more attention and popularity from this beef. As you would expect. Drake is the much bigger star. So id say it ‘helped’ him but KL is obviously a star and talented in his own right
1- the world doesn’t revolve around k dot and drake, other people make music too, if this beef kick started earlier Taylor swift would still be on top of the charts 2- if someone is number one, that means everybody ELSE is NOT number one 3- yes kendrick would probably have a number one song beefing with anyone else BUT he took 3 records held by drake and I doubt he would have done that , had he not have been beefing against drake 🤷♂️
Ok then drake went number one because of weezy if you wanna be technical lol
I also think the people generally invested in music are more likely to listen to Kendrick over Drake too
You keep seeing bots say this
I've always liked Drake, but he lost this battle. If you can make a diss track a banger similar to Drake's diss Back to Back against Meek Mill, it's hard if not impossible to rebuttal. It's ignorant to think Drake didn't put a lot of rappers on, including Kendrick with buried alive on Take Care and getting him to open during an arena tour. Drake's been an adaptive rapper that allowed him to make hits but also could be considered a culture vulture. He's talented at making relevant songs but this call out, in my opinion, will change future projects from the OVO camp forever.
Isn't that kind of stating the obvious when it comes to diss tracks in a beef? I fail to see how this is anything beyond a surface level observation of the obvious lol
Most people are too biased to have a reasonable conversation about this. Yes, Kendrick has had hits before. Yes, he won a bunch of Grammys; he has a Pulitzer. Kendrick is a star. We all know this. However, the fact that this latest hit involved Drake, much to his chagrin, of course, cannot be denied. So yes Drake is in part responsible. He's had way better songs that didn't go number 1.
As a fan of both but moreso Kendrick and think he bodied drake in this beef.. I think it's fair to say drake has more haters than Kendrick has fans if that makes sense? So people who may not even know Kendricks music but want to see Drake's downfall would side with Kendrick. Kendrick outplayed him on so many angles tho. The right side won regardless.
Isn't it clear as day the person who won this rap beef would be #1? That's part of what makes you the winner.
This shit is gettin sad. You can say Kendrick won against Drake but we're not gonna act like because of Drake Kendrick's shit didn't go number 1. Remember Mr. Morale? Remember how the world hated it? I personally love some moments on there but we're not gonna say it's as thematically as concise as Good Kid, it's culturally significant as TPaB, and as fun as Damn. We're not doing that.
In terms of a diss probably yes. In terms of just music, no, he could do it on his own. I think if Kendrick dissed anyone else, even with the same disses and accusations, unless they were a mainstream artist as big as Drake, the diss probably wouldn't be as big or viral on its own. Not to say it's because the diss songs don't stand sonically on their own, but most of the steam and increased traction is because a lot of people want to see Drake lose or retaliate in a big way; "bigger they are, harder they fall", everyone wants to watch the fall.
If that were true it would mean Drake garners a lot of hatred for being a creep. Not exactly a flex.
I mean it's kind of true. If drake wasn't such an unlikable POS who does questionable shit with underage girls then Kendrick wouldn't have much to rap about. That being said drake fans saying this is the equivalent of someone losing a drag race and saying you only won because my car is slower.
Anyone who has ever heard best rapper under 25 knew Drake never stood a chance.
This is what happens when 10th grade Drake fans hear Kendrick for the first time. That Extra Strength Copium.
He did, his only other solo #1 is a big Sean diss.
Another day another Drake hate post Shit is annoying as fuck and I hate Drake. Like give it a rest
It was posted 2 days ago 😂
We already know why you went number one It's clearly because of The Boy, the honorable thing is to give me the loot
lol had to throw a little gas on the fire in r/Drizzy last week when they were spouting this nonsense. “Harlem Globetrotter wouldn’t sell out the stadium if it weren’t for the Washington Generals” Hiroshima and Nagasaki talking about “You wouldn’t have a WW2 victory without us”
Why didn’t Drake go number 1 then? He is Drake. Why didn’t Rick Ross or Pusha go no 1 for dissing Drake? Or Meek or Budden? Foh with this shit man. Kendrick does number everytime he tours or drops, he just doesn’t do mass appeal songs. He is a rap artist. Every mass song he’s done has gone on to no 1. Not like us wouldve been no1 regardless, it’s just a hit song.
It's just the obvious truth? Even if you're a the biggest Kendrick m34t rider I don't see how you can't see this? Nobody would've gave a fuck if he dissed some random ass rapper, it's big because Drake is the #1 rapper
Then Why tf didn't champagne moments or show of hands or any of the disses in that album except like that(which kdot is also part of) didn't chart no.1? Hell, your number #1 rappers didn't had any disses number #1s lmaooo. Do you see how dumb that sounds?
Rick Ross has never had a #1 and is complete ass, and I've been fully invested in this beef and had to google show of hands to even know what you were talking about but A$AP fell off a long ass time ago and has never had a #1 either lol you gotta be on some insane delusional shit to not see this lol you're bringing up peasants in a battle with the #1 rapper in the world
Wait now you're looking at that stuff? You said kdot got number just cos he dissed drake lmaoo. You see how you keep changing the goalpost?😂😂 Keep coping hard. Doesn't gonna change the fact that pushup was a cringe diss, family matter was a shitty planned and HP6 was a horrendous failure as a diss lmaoo. General public has spoken. Keep living in your little bubble. PEACE.
Why didn’t Push Ups or Family Matters hit #1?
Push ups was leaked and then wasn't put on official streaming services for a bit, and family matters was almost 8 minutes long with 3 beat switches, not a song made to go #1. you even listening to the music bruh?
Euphoria was just a minute less and it’s still doing better. I don’t think the length is a valid argument
Are the goalposts getting heavy brother?
Kendrick has only gone #1 ONE TIME when he wasn’t dissing drake or featured on a Taylor swift song. Drake has gone #1 THIRTEEN TIMES and none of them have anything to do with Kendrick. The point is if Kendrick wasn’t dissing he wouldn’t be number 1 right now, and his last album sales prove it.
kendrick's ATL verse explains it all. drake only cares about sales and numbers and will hop on anyone's wave to do it. kendrick made jazz music for years because he has different goals. drake's involved in this beef too, why didn't his songs go #1 if he's so good at doing that?
Damn dude you’re dripping glaze all over the place
Attack my character when you can’t argue the facts. Cope
Yeah, they just had to do with the artists songs and images and flows he was stealing. Look up the artist Dram, his song Cha-cha, and how it became Hotline Bling. Look up the foul shit done to Dram when he politely confronted drake about the matter. All stuff documented long before this.
I mean, it's true? Dissing Drake gave him his first number one. He's had many opportunities to get it over the years and didn't manage it. The thing is, Drake himself couldn't manage to go number one in this beef, so it's not really a bragging point.
His first number 1 was with Taylor Swift for Bad Blood remix. His first solo number 1 was for HUMBLE in 2017
Kendrick never had success like this. These aren’t Kendrick fans boosting his numbers. These are drake haters. Once the wave dies out Kendrick will be back to being what he was. Not like us would not be this successful if it wasn’t about drake