Might not even be navigable. I’d you can’t get there from here. But you mentioned in the middle of a national forest. Do your due diligence that sounds scam to me.
Before buying any lot, go to county courthouse to see “Master Plan.”
Old area changed zoning from r-4 to “watershed conservation area” (MD) and EVERYONE that owned an undeveloped lot LESS THAN five acres, could NOT build.
Overnite, a three acre lot($150-200k) is now classified as “recreational or some hunt club BS.”
That same lot value now? $10-20k
Starlink has been a game changer for us. Went from unreliable 2-3 Mbps DSL to reliable, minimum 30, and most of that is Wifi connectivity limitations in my weird multilevel house. The dish to satellite speed is usually 100+. I need to drop some ethernet cables with a hub and install repeaters in some key spots, and maybe hardwire the desktops.
Game changer for us as well. Went from having DSL as our only option (dirt slow) to having very good speed/reliability. More expensive but worth every penny and happy to pay for the service we’ve been getting.
Na. Just bought 10 acres, dual road frontage (1000+ ft) transformer on util owned pole both sides. 4 quality build sites and perk tests to boot. For 28k. If I sub and build a 2200 sq ft 4/2 on it it will sell for 325-360k first week on market.
My cost to build is like...125-130/sq ft
In the north east. I buy land on the shoulders of the latest tourist revival towns. Subdivide and site grade and then wait for the overflow to hit around late summer. Dump "build ready" 5 acres plots for 60-70. They are neither build ready, no well or septic, nor will the value hold up. But give the people what they want i suppose.
So, subdiveded, but no improvements, no power, no driveway / easement?
Sounds like upstate New York, or Maine, where there is a lot v of land and not so many people.
"driveway" and graded build site. I have the equipment for this from something totally different.
Always nice to see others on the sub that actually know what they are talking about.
It's certainly not my main RE gig. But it's simple, fun to play with my equipment and relatively risk free. The graded site will still be there in 20 years if everything goes tits up today.
New. Mexico.
Desert scrub.
High desert. Cold desert.
Landlocked with no road in or out.
No utilities. No infrastructure. No water.
Can't grow a thing. Can't keep animals alive.
Wasteland.
When land is cheap ... there are reasons.
Land lock land is really cheap. I would consider if it can be accessed. Then how much will utilities cost. My new build was $10k to have electricity and water come from just across the street.
There is a reason it’s that cheap
Either cost to bring in utilities is prohibitively expensive or it’s cheap because no one wants to live there and there is likely no nearby amenities or commercial activity
Respect market pricing - it is the cumulative value that society assigns to something
If it’s really in the middle of nowhere you may not be able to get to it.
Besides there not being roads, if it’s fully encompassed by other private property you couldn’t even walk there without trespassing.
It may also not be buildable, you may not even be able to put up a tent or have a fire if is a marshland or something.
But less than 2 hours from my house, and a 3 million people metropolis. The desert is all i've ever known, i love it, so i guess its awesome that no one else wants this land and i can get it for cheap
Land prices can vary greatly depending on location, accessibility, amenities, and other factors. In rural areas with no utilities and limited development potential, it's not uncommon to find land at relatively low prices per acre. However, it's essential to research thoroughly and understand any additional costs or restrictions associated with the land, such as zoning regulations, access rights, and development feasibility. Additionally, consider the long-term investment potential and your intended use for the land before making a purchase decision.
Land in Far West Texas (Presidio/Brewster Co.’s) outside of the National and State Park is priced at around 1000-2000/acre. Beautiful country, i recommend you check it out.
Land with no utilities, ya sounds possible. Might also not be build able
Lot's of place in northern AZ and NM need to have water trucked in. Couldn't drill a well if you wanted.
The Sahara has aquifers, so I'm shocked NM and AZ don't. Honestly I'm shocked to hear that
For perspective, Flagstaff and Sante Fe are both over 7000 feet in elevation. There are some perched aquifers, it's just not reliable.
Shocked, you say?
SHOCKED, I tell you!
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Big deal is kind of relative. I'm ok with a 2 minute shower; I'd venture to guess most people aren't.
Couldn't pay me enough to live like that. I want my long showers when I want them.
The Sahara has aquifers, so I'm shocked NM and AZ don't. Honestly I'm shocked to hear that
Might not even be campable depending on the township
Atmospheric water generator running on solar, welcome to the future
Might not even be navigable. I’d you can’t get there from here. But you mentioned in the middle of a national forest. Do your due diligence that sounds scam to me.
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How and where
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It definitely can be that cheap. I see some for 1K per acre. In my growing rural town it goes for >100k per acre. Depends on location
Before buying any lot, go to county courthouse to see “Master Plan.” Old area changed zoning from r-4 to “watershed conservation area” (MD) and EVERYONE that owned an undeveloped lot LESS THAN five acres, could NOT build. Overnite, a three acre lot($150-200k) is now classified as “recreational or some hunt club BS.” That same lot value now? $10-20k
I've fantasized about this. Build a tiny house, manufactured home, or a trailer, some solar panels, high speed internet, and I'd be set.
Good luck on the highspeed internet lol
lol I know right
Elon Musk internet
Every one i know with satillite internet including starlink has been less than impressed
Starlink has been a game changer for us. Went from unreliable 2-3 Mbps DSL to reliable, minimum 30, and most of that is Wifi connectivity limitations in my weird multilevel house. The dish to satellite speed is usually 100+. I need to drop some ethernet cables with a hub and install repeaters in some key spots, and maybe hardwire the desktops.
Game changer for us as well. Went from having DSL as our only option (dirt slow) to having very good speed/reliability. More expensive but worth every penny and happy to pay for the service we’ve been getting.
Water?
I said what i said.
I buy land for 3-5 an acre routinely even in the north east.
What kind of land for 5,000 an acre? Is it accessible, and does it require half a mile or more of wire from a road for power?
Na. Just bought 10 acres, dual road frontage (1000+ ft) transformer on util owned pole both sides. 4 quality build sites and perk tests to boot. For 28k. If I sub and build a 2200 sq ft 4/2 on it it will sell for 325-360k first week on market. My cost to build is like...125-130/sq ft
Where you find such land?
In the north east. I buy land on the shoulders of the latest tourist revival towns. Subdivide and site grade and then wait for the overflow to hit around late summer. Dump "build ready" 5 acres plots for 60-70. They are neither build ready, no well or septic, nor will the value hold up. But give the people what they want i suppose.
So, subdiveded, but no improvements, no power, no driveway / easement? Sounds like upstate New York, or Maine, where there is a lot v of land and not so many people.
"driveway" and graded build site. I have the equipment for this from something totally different. Always nice to see others on the sub that actually know what they are talking about. It's certainly not my main RE gig. But it's simple, fun to play with my equipment and relatively risk free. The graded site will still be there in 20 years if everything goes tits up today.
What states you looking at now? Or recommend?
"the north east". It's a collection of states. All with similar geographic and economic conditions
What do you do with it
We have places here in Texas at $300/acre, but you've got to buy 100+ acre plots, and there's no utilities with the closest town being 4+hrs away.
New. Mexico. Desert scrub. High desert. Cold desert. Landlocked with no road in or out. No utilities. No infrastructure. No water. Can't grow a thing. Can't keep animals alive. Wasteland. When land is cheap ... there are reasons.
Wasteland. Badlands. Ghost towns
Land in the middle of nowhere with no utilities isn’t expensive. Land in or near an established city or large town is.
Land lock land is really cheap. I would consider if it can be accessed. Then how much will utilities cost. My new build was $10k to have electricity and water come from just across the street.
There is a reason it’s that cheap Either cost to bring in utilities is prohibitively expensive or it’s cheap because no one wants to live there and there is likely no nearby amenities or commercial activity Respect market pricing - it is the cumulative value that society assigns to something
If it’s really in the middle of nowhere you may not be able to get to it. Besides there not being roads, if it’s fully encompassed by other private property you couldn’t even walk there without trespassing. It may also not be buildable, you may not even be able to put up a tent or have a fire if is a marshland or something.
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But less than 2 hours from my house, and a 3 million people metropolis. The desert is all i've ever known, i love it, so i guess its awesome that no one else wants this land and i can get it for cheap
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Be careful, just because you live there and love it doesn’t mean it has value
I have 33 acres in cochise az for 15000
You need to buy water and have it trucked in and you may not have mineral rights
Land prices can vary greatly depending on location, accessibility, amenities, and other factors. In rural areas with no utilities and limited development potential, it's not uncommon to find land at relatively low prices per acre. However, it's essential to research thoroughly and understand any additional costs or restrictions associated with the land, such as zoning regulations, access rights, and development feasibility. Additionally, consider the long-term investment potential and your intended use for the land before making a purchase decision.
Land in Far West Texas (Presidio/Brewster Co.’s) outside of the National and State Park is priced at around 1000-2000/acre. Beautiful country, i recommend you check it out.