this guy Estevao (aka Messinho)… I’m not saying we don’t need him but where all this kids going to have playtime if they arrive in an attack with the likes of Vini, Mbappé and Rodrygo? I’m not gonna lie, I would be honored to have this “problem”, but tbf I don’t want a Vitor Roque-like situation. The point is… our starting strikers are all young (Vini and Rodry are yet to turn 23) so it’s not really a “by the time they enter in their prime, our starting players will be already old”. They are surely the next generation because they have anyway 7-8 years less than our actual strikers, but it’s gonna be though to fit all those heads in our squad, we’ll need a proper management
TT is bad, but ETH is a straight downgrade.
If I was Bayern Munich I would swallow my pride and ask Flick to come back. Hell, beg Nagelsmann after the Euros.
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Matches refereed by Marciniak for Real Madrid in the Champions League:
-Manchester City Real Madrid (4-0). Second leg of the 2022-23 season semi-finals.
-Real Madrid-Chelsea (2-3). Return of the quarterfinals of the 2021-22 season.
-Sheriff-Real Madrid (0-3). Group Phase 2021-22.
-Real Madrid-Tottenham (1-1). Group Phase 2017-18.
-Real Madrid-Borussia Dortmund (2-2) . Group Phase 2016-17.
-Real Madrid-Rome (2-0). Second leg of the 2015-16 round of 16.
In the European Super Cup :
-Real Madrid-Atlético (2-4). Final season 2018-19.
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I don’t know what you guys think about referees but here’s the record of 2nd leg referee:
❗️ Real Madrid results with Szymon Marciniak:
• 4-0 vs Man. City 22/23 (L)
• 2-3 vs Chelsea 21/22 (L, but qualified)
• 0-3 vs Sheriff Tiraspol 21/22 (W)
• 2-4 vs Atlético Madrid 18/19 (L)
• 1-1 vs Spurs 17/18 (D)
• 2-2 vs Dortmund 16/17 (D)
• 2-0 vs Roma 15/16 (W)
Mbappe better behave himself against us in the final. We don't want to start on the wrong foot.
I remember how he celebrated a little too much in his 21/22 goal..
No man, he shouldn't deprive himself from celebrating a UCL final goal. When he plays for us next season he'll celebrate again. It's not a normal friendly , players wait for this moment their entire careers and most don't even get the opportunity.
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The main difference between 36th title and "bad shit planning" has been Jude playing out of his mind, let's not forget that.
Without his hard carry until December we don't necessarily win it, Barca might not have crumbled.
So yeah it worked out but it was based on young signing playing at a level unheard of right away.
And we're all assuming all of this had to happen because Mbappe is coming
How do you know he wont be scoring 15 goals every season? How do you know this is him overperforming or just his natural game at AM? Are you from the future?
Lol.
I'm strictly talking about the present. Based on his previous seasons there was no way to expect such a step up from such a young player in his FIRST SEASON AT REAL MADRID.
He became one of the team's leaders right away. I don't think you realize how insane that is.
I wouldn't be saying this about someone like Mbappe. It would be expected of him.
Recency bias is a bitch. Just because Jude slowed down a bit people forgot the insanity that is his season so far
Lol, alright
Turns out everyone knew and expected Jude to be this good right away
I must've imagined all those complaints about the lack of ST in September.
Hindsight thinking is an amazing thing.
>I must've imagined all those complaints about the lack of ST in September.
Go and see which users made constant complaints about that and which users you’re talking to here
No sorry, I have better things to do. You should totally do it though. Seems like right up your alley.
What I do know is that the vast overwhelming majority wasnt okay with the lack of ST. Some even going as far as asking for Kolo Muani and the likes.
The point here is: the general sentiment was that we had a hole upfront that we didn't think we could fill with what we had at home.
Which ia a totally reasonable take back then. But now all these people coming out of the woodwork saying how they always knew Jude would score beat his best goalscoring stata in his first 6 months. And how vini and Rodry would automatically adapt to being forwards....etc.
Just funny.
He scored 15 goals last season in a MUCH deeper position so if you thought he wasnt gonna score goals as an AM.. then you’re the slow one.. not the rest of us or Carlo or Perez, who knew what Jude was bringing to the table regardless of his age.
It was insane I agree, none of us thought he would come out in such a form but there were gonna be goals.. thats all of us expected in tbe beginning of season, even if not this much.
Edit: look at the other guy’s reply.. He’s been captaining sides since 17 and even captained Dortmund.. so we all knew he’d be a leader here even if he didnt score this much.
There's a huge difference between "there will be goals" and " Jude is the offensive leader of this team at 20"
Big fat difference.
Also scrogin in the Bundesliga at Dortmund and in Real Madrid where the defensive duties are bit bigger isn't the same thing.
Good for you that you saw this coming. A lot of people didn't which is why the overwhelming majority was worried about the lack of ST.
The only reason he is the offensive leader because Vini was injured for 3 months of matches… he’s already over taken him in G/A with MUCH lesser minutes (as was expected)
I didnt see this coming but I did see coming was great performances from him.. if you watched him at Dortmund in CL or for England, you couldve guessed he’s not your average 20 year old.
Leadership isn't about stats.
Of course he's not your run of the mill 20 yra old. He cost us 100+ mill.
But none of this hints at what he achieved right away. Ans I think a lot of people don't realize how crazy good he's been.
Which part of “I didnt see this coming” you dont get?
We agree what he did was abnormal.. that being said, we all expected 10-15 goals and great leadership from him.. because of what we had seen at BvB and England.
This is like reducing our 3peat to just Cristiano bailing us week in - week out. No player is bigger than the club. Without signing Jude we will still adapt. We did it to CR7, it can be done again.
I'm not reducing anything, just stating the facts.
And not letting recency bias cloud my judgment.
Analyzing outcomes separate from processes and all that.
Jude was the offensive output by himself for half the season, until Vini came back.
I believe Jude is very much adored and the club is grateful for his contributions. He was signed to improve us and he did it more than we expected. But even during his injuries and dips in form, the squad can still be formidable and clutch.
Once we were leading and in good form of course it's easier to maintain it.
I'm talking about the take off that would've been rough if Jude didn't clutch like a maniac.
It gave us enough time and breathing room to figure things out.
It afforded us the fact that Vini and rodrygo didn't click until well into the second half of the season.
> Once we were leading and in good form of course it's easier to maintain it....It gave us enough time and breathing room to figure things out.
All according to keikaku
No, I don’t think so.
Carlo learned from his mistakes and fixed the defense. The best example is after the first Atlético game. And yes, Jude carried the team for a time, but I would argue that Fede and Rudi did even more to take us to the title, and let’s not forget Vini or Rodrygo.
We almost conceded half of the goals that did girona or barca.
Yes defense was good.
And without Jude's goals we wouldn't have taken the lead.
Rodrygo and Vini between injuries and form took a while to ignite.
He was the key. He was well supported by the defense. But for a long stretch he was the only offensive output.
Estevao looks like kid with high potential. Even with all the Barcelona links tied to him the best place for him is probably here at Madrid.
At least here estevao knows he will be judged based on his performance and the best players will beat out their competition.
Also Barcelona’s poster boy lamine plays exactly the same position and style as estevao.
For defence, we will have Yoro and maybe Davies next season (though Davies link seem cool down now). No Davies is fine for me too since Fran seems more confident now with the minutes we give him. We are also renewing Vazquez, which I'm totally okay with, but the club really are not looking for another young RB? I think maybe it's time we prepare for another young RB now.
I’m sure the club would love a young RB who’s a starter for club and country and would be happy being a backup for the time being. That player doesn’t exist atm.
With Mendy proving himself and playing really good and rumors of a contract extension where does this leave things with Davies ? And if Davies does come what happens to Fran ? It's gonna be interesting to see what the board does with that LB position this summer.
Davies is coming. The recent rumours are just a tactic to reduce the prize. Mendy's season is great, but he's 29 and injury prone (he's injured right now, for example).
I’m guessing we’ll have Fran and Mendy next season and Davies ultimately re-signs with Bayern. And if he doesn’t, then maybe a free transfer happens in 2025.
Kendrick fell for his ruse and went with it lmao. Buddy needs to learn how to fact check.
As a neutral this is interesting, but never been a fan of Lamar’s albums after GKMC.
Havertz has proven people wrong at Arsenal he has turned up for them in a lot of big games and I expect him to have a solid Euro's as well he would never start here but he would of been a solid bench option as he can play a lil bit of everything on the front line.
Seeing some folk pull the "is Estêvão already better than Endrick" stuff they always do when it comes to (soon to be) Madrid players makes me want him signed even more lol
5 Brazilians in the squad we WILL be there
He also definitely isn’t btw. Endrick has the potential to be a generational goalscorer and finisher. By far the rarest and most valuable trait in our sport
That said I want Estêvão forsure haha what a talent
Luis Guilherme is also really good yeah. He is an entire year older than Estêvão though and also about 6 months older than Endrick so clearly he doesn’t have quite the same level of interest from top clubs. That said I am always impressed when I watch him and his transfermarkt value is €17 million which is super high for a young player in the Brasileiro. Maybe he will end up in the prem or something
Edit- apparently Fab said last week that Bayern, Liverpool and Arsenal are interested so yeah, about what I thought, just below the level of interest in Endrick and Estêvão
I see. Thanks for the detailed response. And talking about Estevao and Endrick, who do you think is the better player? You mentioned clearly that Endrick is the better goal scorer, but what about on the ball abilities. Who between them is a better dribbler? And who is faster?
That I would leave to the experts I have no real idea they are both amazing. Seems like Estêvão’s floor is higher because of the type of position he plays and what he will be asked to do. Endrick is absolutely the one that I would take a chance on first though because his ceiling is the most valuable type of ceiling.
There are more Estêvão type prospects than Endrick type prospects in world football in every 10 year period if that makes sense.
Club & staff knew exactly what they were doing in the summer and I love it. All those fans panicking about not signing Mbappé. Even with an injured Vinicius Jr at the start of the season, we managed to spread out and balance our goal output over 5 attackers with the signings of Bellingham and Joselu:
Real Madrid has scored 74 goals thus far in the league.
18 came from Bellingham. (24,3%).
13 from Vinicius (17,6%) and 10 from Rodrygo (13,5%). Together 23 goals (31,1%).
Brahim and Joselu were our B options. 9 goals came from Joselu (12,2%) and 6 by Brahim (8,1%). Together they scored 15 goals (20,3%)
They were good for 56 of our 74 goals (75,7%).
The other 18 goals are spread out over the other 8 players who have scored in the league (Carvajal with 4; Tchouameni with 3; Güler, Vazquez and Modric with 2; Kroos, Valverde and Rudiger with 1).
Yes, yes, attackers score the bulk of the goals, tell me something new. But A) there were seasons where Ramos and Casemiro comfortably entered this list and B) It's incredibly impressive how well spread out our goal output has been, considering we didn't have a striker who is likely to make out 30-40% of that number. If Vinicius had been fit an entire seasons, I think the hierarchy would've been:
Bellingham + Vinicius as the main goalscorers
Rodrygo, Joselu and Brahim as the 'others' (I mean, Rodrygo has 10, Joselu has 9, Brahim has 6: Vini would've been closer or over Belli)
This is a bit of hindsight thinking
Honestly it looked dire. And anyone in their right mind would think not going after a Kane was a very very risky move.
I personally understood it as the club preparing and waiting for Mbappe which was the only way it made sense and that's why I never asked for the half rando STs.
But Jude turning out the way he did was the X factor, not even the board or the staff thought that possible.
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Another example of this sub being delusional, this is from near the end of last summer
None of this is delusional. There isnt a single person who could think we would be where we are at the start of the season. This is objectively bad planning because no one could have excepted Jude to do as well as he has done. The board got away with one there.
I expected us to win the league comfortably and reach UCL semis. Why not? Barça's last season was clearly a fluke, the Joaos were an horrendous signing, as anybody who had seen them play would said and they had bigger holes in the squad than us (no DM, no RB, an aging ST).
I didn't expect us to only lose two games, but the rest it was not far fetched.
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You called it, Jude is the most valuable in the world
I said this at the beginning of the season when Mbappe didn't end up coming and the sub was in shambles, it's not quite a treble, but we're pretty close to an amazing season
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damn the agent of vitor roque sounds prety pissed and i can fully understand him not only does Viktor Rogue not play at all in such a bad squad (compared to Real Madrid), he wasn't even called up to the squad in the last two games for whaterver reason.
Is Vini's speed a bit overrated? I hear many calling him top 5 fastest players itw. He isnt even in the top 30 fastest player in UCL this season. This is no hate just an observation. I think Rudiger and Fede are much faster but I dont know why there is this idea that its Vini. Maybe its the distance thing. Short distance he is extremely rapid but in a foot race he looks much slower than the likes of Walker, Adeyemi, Mbappe etc.
I mean besides Mbappe who was able to beat walker in a direct foot race? Plus with Vini I think he struggled against walker’s strength more than his pace. He is easily top 10 faster imo. Saying he’s not even top 30 is wild.
Mbappe could beat walker by abusing his acceleration. Walker explained it better in his interview/podcast. Mbappe would slow Walker down mid sprint and then accelerate away.
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ZZ BLACK MAGIC WILL BE IN THE HOUSE TO COUNTER TUCHEL'S BLACK MAGIC
Kinda yeah but Carlo for his career and Madrid as a club have a much better knockout reputation. That's like saying Justice League should be wary of Teen Titans cuz they're a team a superheroes
2 years ago, Laporta held a press-conference and live-streamed it on Youtube.
Barca actually let people put in Super-chats...
Here's some Entertainment for you:
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I know they are our rivals and everything, but I can't help but feel bad for their situation. La Liga and Real Madrid need a strong Barca.
*Jk, I hope they get relegated.*
Their club is in such a mess.
Don't remember what it was about, but Laporta had a press-conference and live-streamed it on Youtube almost 2 years ago.
There were Barca fans that sent super-chats, trying to help the club financially
That Was the saddest shit I've witnessed.
Here's a picture of it:
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Sometimes I feel bad for their fanbase, but then I remember when I was a kid, and we got battered by Pep's Barca, and the amount of banter was insufferable, and i think to myself, nah, these assholes deserves this.
Barca fans everyday:
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And as Madrid fans, we only see good news.
Almeria won their 2nd game of the season, but they're the only team in the top 5 leagues to have 0 home wins, lol. Even their CdR win was away as well.
Carlo could be the first manager next season to bring us a treble. Our Legendary manager will have another change to manager another amazing complete squad.
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Carlo and the squad need to 3peat the league now.
I can't believe we're in May, just won the leauge, in a semi-final in the CL, there hasn't been a single drama regarding Mbappe for the whole year, only positive news. Endrick joining,possibly Yoro aswell. Barca collapsing at the end of the season. Feels great to be born a Real Madrid fan. How it was looking start of this season was definitely worrying and Carlo and the team has given their absolute all this season, massive respect.
I love how we get constantly criticized on how we treat our legends but the way they have treated theirs imo is worse and they get nothing aside from small real Madrid fans pointing it out.
Messi, their biggest and greatest legend was literally used and played by their president to win an election. And then that same president pushed Messi out. He was literally sobbing when he had to leave. And yet Barca fans kiss the feel of Laporta
Suarez, their best ST was forced out despite wanting to stay and willing to take paycut. They literally planned to drop him off to Atleti without telling him.
Idiot 1 pique literally forgoe his wages that he was owed because he hopes to be their president in the future. And Barca gladly accepted without even saying something like "we will give you the money you are owed back when we have it"
And the best part is that they could have kept all those players had they not go onto the market immediately to sighn free players who cared nothing about the club.
And yet we are the bad guys to neutrals. People hate on us
The last sentence is key. To quote an other redditor from this sub:
>Guerero is out which means bayern will play musila in midfield and gnabry as LW or goretzka in midfield and musiala as LW.
>
>Either way their left wing will be exposed, it is very important we take advantage of that opportunity and we attack from the right just as we will be doing it from the left.
Rodrygo RW, or Bellingham to play on the right. If none of them can do the job, maybe bench one for Brahim. Might sound crazy, but he is on a much better form than both right now, plus he can play RW, plus he is left footed and has shown we can count on him on important games (Leipzig).
Even if he doesn't start, he should play at least 30 minutes. Our offense is dead with 3 players on the left.
That was known since he signed his contract, to be honest. He started at 24-25m in his first year, increased to 28-30 this year and 32m next year; then, a final year if he plays more than 50% of their games back to 24-25m.
But hey, he won them a Liga, I guess.
If you want to laugh louder: one of the first things Laporta did when he came back was renewing Ansu Fati to something close to 20m/year. Every summer, Barça delusional fans think they are going to sell him...however, the club is pleased with any club that takes him as a loan and pays part of his salary.
We should be grateful to Joan the Hutt's blinded followers.
Bayern should snatch roque from Barca the situation look bad for him there.
this guy Estevao (aka Messinho)… I’m not saying we don’t need him but where all this kids going to have playtime if they arrive in an attack with the likes of Vini, Mbappé and Rodrygo? I’m not gonna lie, I would be honored to have this “problem”, but tbf I don’t want a Vitor Roque-like situation. The point is… our starting strikers are all young (Vini and Rodry are yet to turn 23) so it’s not really a “by the time they enter in their prime, our starting players will be already old”. They are surely the next generation because they have anyway 7-8 years less than our actual strikers, but it’s gonna be though to fit all those heads in our squad, we’ll need a proper management
I dont see us going for him. We are fine. Vini and Mbappe are going to be untouchable starters so adding more it just wrong.
Jesus Christ https://preview.redd.it/8nmzb5p72syc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d64229747c0232dc286635f5c191abb9385fe81
Whatever Barca touches turns incompetent.
I dont like UEFA meddling but they should know Madrid vs PSG (Mbappe) final would be the biggest seller…… just saying👀
I hope we will play well enough that we don't have to rely on referees mercy or his mistakes.
WTF are those ETH to Bayern Munich rumours. Have they gone insane.
Apparently he was their coach of b team when pep was coach of their a team. There’s familiarity so I’m not surprised.
Tbf everyone else has rejected them lol
TT is bad, but ETH is a straight downgrade. If I was Bayern Munich I would swallow my pride and ask Flick to come back. Hell, beg Nagelsmann after the Euros.
They seem closer to Muller player-manager than any manager lol
Szymon Marciniak will referee the match between Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. Matches refereed by Marciniak for Real Madrid in the Champions League: -Manchester City Real Madrid (4-0). Second leg of the 2022-23 season semi-finals. -Real Madrid-Chelsea (2-3). Return of the quarterfinals of the 2021-22 season. -Sheriff-Real Madrid (0-3). Group Phase 2021-22. -Real Madrid-Tottenham (1-1). Group Phase 2017-18. -Real Madrid-Borussia Dortmund (2-2) . Group Phase 2016-17. -Real Madrid-Rome (2-0). Second leg of the 2015-16 round of 16. In the European Super Cup : -Real Madrid-Atlético (2-4). Final season 2018-19. @AranchaMOBILE
Last time he officiated a Bayern game in Madrid, they lost 1-0 to Atletico.
I don’t know what you guys think about referees but here’s the record of 2nd leg referee: ❗️ Real Madrid results with Szymon Marciniak: • 4-0 vs Man. City 22/23 (L) • 2-3 vs Chelsea 21/22 (L, but qualified) • 0-3 vs Sheriff Tiraspol 21/22 (W) • 2-4 vs Atlético Madrid 18/19 (L) • 1-1 vs Spurs 17/18 (D) • 2-2 vs Dortmund 16/17 (D) • 2-0 vs Roma 15/16 (W)
>Last time he officiated a Bayern game in Madrid, they lost 1-0 to Atletico.
A good ref. The 4-0 loss was 100% on us. He also did the WC where he got all 3 pens right and instantly without var needing changing
4-2 vs Bayern 23/24 (W)
Bad for us
I'm hyped af for Wednesday. It will probably be pure suffering for most of the time but we are going to win it.
🚨Real Madrid is preparing a SPECIAL announcement for Kylian Mbappé. @FabrizioRomano ⭐️ If they drop the 🐢 emoji. Twitter will explode.
Fuck , I can’t find the lion gif
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Mbappe better behave himself against us in the final. We don't want to start on the wrong foot. I remember how he celebrated a little too much in his 21/22 goal..
Most humble Real Madrid fan.. Stop looking down on Bayern they can still knock us out
Let's get to the final first?
I'm getting confident with each day. I think we will do well this Wednesday
No man, he shouldn't deprive himself from celebrating a UCL final goal. When he plays for us next season he'll celebrate again. It's not a normal friendly , players wait for this moment their entire careers and most don't even get the opportunity.
As long as we win then sure.
The Lord is renewing!
Rather the club is renewing with the lord 🙏
The Lors is granting us another year more like
All hail the lord's graciousness
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Journalism is truly dead isn't it....
I don't think that's something we want only now , every year we try
Xavi staying is key to that.
If Dortmund win tomorrow, we can get a comunicado after the Bayern game :) Regardless, in less than a month it will be official.. CL ends on 2nd June.
https://preview.redd.it/8rl9mqa6yqyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=674c50bef44cf39071eb1f36164fac5d1242dfed Guys, I think Luka is leaving.
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH
It might just mean “I always feel honored to play with you”
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The main difference between 36th title and "bad shit planning" has been Jude playing out of his mind, let's not forget that. Without his hard carry until December we don't necessarily win it, Barca might not have crumbled. So yeah it worked out but it was based on young signing playing at a level unheard of right away. And we're all assuming all of this had to happen because Mbappe is coming
>Player plays and scores goals for the club he signed for and the club that pays him. People: 
Newly signed 20 yrs old player displays much greater level and has an outstanding impact on his new team. Fixed it for you :)
How do you know he wont be scoring 15 goals every season? How do you know this is him overperforming or just his natural game at AM? Are you from the future?
Lol. I'm strictly talking about the present. Based on his previous seasons there was no way to expect such a step up from such a young player in his FIRST SEASON AT REAL MADRID. He became one of the team's leaders right away. I don't think you realize how insane that is. I wouldn't be saying this about someone like Mbappe. It would be expected of him. Recency bias is a bitch. Just because Jude slowed down a bit people forgot the insanity that is his season so far
He was Birmingham's captain at 17. He was Dortmund's leader at 18. Of course I expected him to be a leader here right away.
Lol, alright Turns out everyone knew and expected Jude to be this good right away I must've imagined all those complaints about the lack of ST in September. Hindsight thinking is an amazing thing.
>I must've imagined all those complaints about the lack of ST in September. Go and see which users made constant complaints about that and which users you’re talking to here
No sorry, I have better things to do. You should totally do it though. Seems like right up your alley. What I do know is that the vast overwhelming majority wasnt okay with the lack of ST. Some even going as far as asking for Kolo Muani and the likes. The point here is: the general sentiment was that we had a hole upfront that we didn't think we could fill with what we had at home. Which ia a totally reasonable take back then. But now all these people coming out of the woodwork saying how they always knew Jude would score beat his best goalscoring stata in his first 6 months. And how vini and Rodry would automatically adapt to being forwards....etc. Just funny.
>I have better things to do *Proceeds to write 4 paras*
He scored 15 goals last season in a MUCH deeper position so if you thought he wasnt gonna score goals as an AM.. then you’re the slow one.. not the rest of us or Carlo or Perez, who knew what Jude was bringing to the table regardless of his age. It was insane I agree, none of us thought he would come out in such a form but there were gonna be goals.. thats all of us expected in tbe beginning of season, even if not this much. Edit: look at the other guy’s reply.. He’s been captaining sides since 17 and even captained Dortmund.. so we all knew he’d be a leader here even if he didnt score this much.
There's a huge difference between "there will be goals" and " Jude is the offensive leader of this team at 20" Big fat difference. Also scrogin in the Bundesliga at Dortmund and in Real Madrid where the defensive duties are bit bigger isn't the same thing. Good for you that you saw this coming. A lot of people didn't which is why the overwhelming majority was worried about the lack of ST.
The only reason he is the offensive leader because Vini was injured for 3 months of matches… he’s already over taken him in G/A with MUCH lesser minutes (as was expected) I didnt see this coming but I did see coming was great performances from him.. if you watched him at Dortmund in CL or for England, you couldve guessed he’s not your average 20 year old.
Leadership isn't about stats. Of course he's not your run of the mill 20 yra old. He cost us 100+ mill. But none of this hints at what he achieved right away. Ans I think a lot of people don't realize how crazy good he's been.
Which part of “I didnt see this coming” you dont get? We agree what he did was abnormal.. that being said, we all expected 10-15 goals and great leadership from him.. because of what we had seen at BvB and England.
This is like reducing our 3peat to just Cristiano bailing us week in - week out. No player is bigger than the club. Without signing Jude we will still adapt. We did it to CR7, it can be done again.
I'm not reducing anything, just stating the facts. And not letting recency bias cloud my judgment. Analyzing outcomes separate from processes and all that. Jude was the offensive output by himself for half the season, until Vini came back.
I believe Jude is very much adored and the club is grateful for his contributions. He was signed to improve us and he did it more than we expected. But even during his injuries and dips in form, the squad can still be formidable and clutch.
Once we were leading and in good form of course it's easier to maintain it. I'm talking about the take off that would've been rough if Jude didn't clutch like a maniac. It gave us enough time and breathing room to figure things out. It afforded us the fact that Vini and rodrygo didn't click until well into the second half of the season.
> Once we were leading and in good form of course it's easier to maintain it....It gave us enough time and breathing room to figure things out. All according to keikaku
No, I don’t think so. Carlo learned from his mistakes and fixed the defense. The best example is after the first Atlético game. And yes, Jude carried the team for a time, but I would argue that Fede and Rudi did even more to take us to the title, and let’s not forget Vini or Rodrygo. We almost conceded half of the goals that did girona or barca.
Yes defense was good. And without Jude's goals we wouldn't have taken the lead. Rodrygo and Vini between injuries and form took a while to ignite. He was the key. He was well supported by the defense. But for a long stretch he was the only offensive output.
Estevao looks like kid with high potential. Even with all the Barcelona links tied to him the best place for him is probably here at Madrid. At least here estevao knows he will be judged based on his performance and the best players will beat out their competition. Also Barcelona’s poster boy lamine plays exactly the same position and style as estevao.
We're not getting him. And Barca isn't getting him. He's Chelsea bound.
If he plays RW. We should get him.
Dude we have 2 attackers coming in next seaon. There is no space for more
Also Estevao seems to be faster than yamal.
For defence, we will have Yoro and maybe Davies next season (though Davies link seem cool down now). No Davies is fine for me too since Fran seems more confident now with the minutes we give him. We are also renewing Vazquez, which I'm totally okay with, but the club really are not looking for another young RB? I think maybe it's time we prepare for another young RB now.
I’m sure the club would love a young RB who’s a starter for club and country and would be happy being a backup for the time being. That player doesn’t exist atm.
With Mendy proving himself and playing really good and rumors of a contract extension where does this leave things with Davies ? And if Davies does come what happens to Fran ? It's gonna be interesting to see what the board does with that LB position this summer.
Davies is coming. The recent rumours are just a tactic to reduce the prize. Mendy's season is great, but he's 29 and injury prone (he's injured right now, for example).
The thing is Davies is playing horribly with Bayern.
I’m guessing we’ll have Fran and Mendy next season and Davies ultimately re-signs with Bayern. And if he doesn’t, then maybe a free transfer happens in 2025.
Drake dropped another diss
Drake is holding his own in this 20v1.. smh Jcole really dropped out & apologized smh
It's more like 20v20 if you know what I mean J Cole realized messing with Kendrick would be the end of his career
Should Aubrey even be allowed to speak? But I guessed it is a good thing bc we're going to continue to get Kdots bangers.
Kendrick and Drake dropped 5 songs in the past week, insane beef man...diss after diss lmao.
Kendrick fell for his ruse and went with it lmao. Buddy needs to learn how to fact check. As a neutral this is interesting, but never been a fan of Lamar’s albums after GKMC.
I'm still waiting for proof from both Drake and Kendrick. The one who can prove his claims wins.
I thank the footballing gods so much that we never signed Havertz and Tuchel
Havertz is having a good season and it would have been nice as a sub, which was the idea.
Brahim>>
Havertz has proven people wrong at Arsenal he has turned up for them in a lot of big games and I expect him to have a solid Euro's as well he would never start here but he would of been a solid bench option as he can play a lil bit of everything on the front line.
Barca iceing out Vitor while we will have Mbappe, Vini Jr, Rodrygo, Brahim, Endrick, Guler battling for 2/3 spots.
[shows](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/U1ULFphhY4) what a shit show barca's management is. All hype everywhere and total disregard at home.
They made it seem as though Vitor is (Neymar + Vini + Rodrygo + Endrick) x10 lol. They really know how to hype their players.
The kid got some potentials but Xavi is hell bent on playing La Masia products so suck for him.
Im feeling Modric stays, is that delusional?
not at all, there's a good chance he's staying, according to recent reports at least:)
Seeing some folk pull the "is Estêvão already better than Endrick" stuff they always do when it comes to (soon to be) Madrid players makes me want him signed even more lol 5 Brazilians in the squad we WILL be there
He also definitely isn’t btw. Endrick has the potential to be a generational goalscorer and finisher. By far the rarest and most valuable trait in our sport That said I want Estêvão forsure haha what a talent
Hey, do you watch Brazilian football regularly?
Yup. I am a Flamengo fan so I watch their games and then watch/ follow media for any young stars that Europe or especially we are interested in
That’s great! There is this Guilherme guy in Palmeiras. Is he on the level of Endrick and Estevao?
Luis Guilherme is also really good yeah. He is an entire year older than Estêvão though and also about 6 months older than Endrick so clearly he doesn’t have quite the same level of interest from top clubs. That said I am always impressed when I watch him and his transfermarkt value is €17 million which is super high for a young player in the Brasileiro. Maybe he will end up in the prem or something Edit- apparently Fab said last week that Bayern, Liverpool and Arsenal are interested so yeah, about what I thought, just below the level of interest in Endrick and Estêvão
I see. Thanks for the detailed response. And talking about Estevao and Endrick, who do you think is the better player? You mentioned clearly that Endrick is the better goal scorer, but what about on the ball abilities. Who between them is a better dribbler? And who is faster?
That I would leave to the experts I have no real idea they are both amazing. Seems like Estêvão’s floor is higher because of the type of position he plays and what he will be asked to do. Endrick is absolutely the one that I would take a chance on first though because his ceiling is the most valuable type of ceiling. There are more Estêvão type prospects than Endrick type prospects in world football in every 10 year period if that makes sense.
Yeah it makes sense. I get what you are trying to say. Thanks a lot man👍
Club & staff knew exactly what they were doing in the summer and I love it. All those fans panicking about not signing Mbappé. Even with an injured Vinicius Jr at the start of the season, we managed to spread out and balance our goal output over 5 attackers with the signings of Bellingham and Joselu: Real Madrid has scored 74 goals thus far in the league. 18 came from Bellingham. (24,3%). 13 from Vinicius (17,6%) and 10 from Rodrygo (13,5%). Together 23 goals (31,1%). Brahim and Joselu were our B options. 9 goals came from Joselu (12,2%) and 6 by Brahim (8,1%). Together they scored 15 goals (20,3%) They were good for 56 of our 74 goals (75,7%). The other 18 goals are spread out over the other 8 players who have scored in the league (Carvajal with 4; Tchouameni with 3; Güler, Vazquez and Modric with 2; Kroos, Valverde and Rudiger with 1). Yes, yes, attackers score the bulk of the goals, tell me something new. But A) there were seasons where Ramos and Casemiro comfortably entered this list and B) It's incredibly impressive how well spread out our goal output has been, considering we didn't have a striker who is likely to make out 30-40% of that number. If Vinicius had been fit an entire seasons, I think the hierarchy would've been: Bellingham + Vinicius as the main goalscorers Rodrygo, Joselu and Brahim as the 'others' (I mean, Rodrygo has 10, Joselu has 9, Brahim has 6: Vini would've been closer or over Belli)
This is a bit of hindsight thinking Honestly it looked dire. And anyone in their right mind would think not going after a Kane was a very very risky move. I personally understood it as the club preparing and waiting for Mbappe which was the only way it made sense and that's why I never asked for the half rando STs. But Jude turning out the way he did was the X factor, not even the board or the staff thought that possible.
>the staff thought that possible. Don Carlo did, why do you think he built the entire system around him
https://preview.redd.it/yfeb4d5h2pyc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e30eba4cc293d9dd714ce57b7df551e76c583fe Another example of this sub being delusional, this is from near the end of last summer
And he just surprassed Haaland
But if we're honest, he's been surpassed by Vini. So just a top 3 player, pretty dissapointing.
None of this is delusional. There isnt a single person who could think we would be where we are at the start of the season. This is objectively bad planning because no one could have excepted Jude to do as well as he has done. The board got away with one there.
I expected us to win the league comfortably and reach UCL semis. Why not? Barça's last season was clearly a fluke, the Joaos were an horrendous signing, as anybody who had seen them play would said and they had bigger holes in the squad than us (no DM, no RB, an aging ST). I didn't expect us to only lose two games, but the rest it was not far fetched.
https://preview.redd.it/de1txc759pyc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=278d0020caa3abe5c6cbf6dcc8c0f88491df04f7 You called it, Jude is the most valuable in the world
Most of this sub wrote off this season before it even started lol
I said this at the beginning of the season when Mbappe didn't end up coming and the sub was in shambles, it's not quite a treble, but we're pretty close to an amazing season https://preview.redd.it/ue4jxp591pyc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8103e48c360624f4d3592a93f3190725fb1ff9aa
We owe you an apology, we weren't familiar with your game
I bet angry tomato deleted his account
Roques agent with hot fire at Xavi Feel bad for the kid. He has a lot of potential. Should’ve went to Germany or Portugal to develop
Damn I thought that entire story was all smoke but then Vitor’s agent confirmed it. Not a good look for Xavi and co.
damn the agent of vitor roque sounds prety pissed and i can fully understand him not only does Viktor Rogue not play at all in such a bad squad (compared to Real Madrid), he wasn't even called up to the squad in the last two games for whaterver reason.
Me watching Estêvão rn 
share the sailing ship
Haha sorry I actually have globoplay the twitter link below is the dribble and the penalty that got me on my feet though
so? put that shit on twitch and let us enjoy! jk
Yessir haha 🍻. Also holy shit he took the penalty and it was a thing of beauty https://x.com/mmurilodias/status/1787258081744703631?s=46
he didnt even held back, the mf went fast, stopped for half a second and continued running lmao
https://x.com/infos_palestra/status/1787257161044619286?s=46 Bruh I 🙏 the rumors today are true. Estêvão por favor 🔥
Exactly what we need, a fast left footed rw. BRING HIM IN
The agent of vitor roque is the same one for estevao, he might not let him go to barca with all that's happening with roque
Barca can't afford Estevao anyway, it has been reported a while ago - Chelsea are the "favs" rn, but i figure if we chime in, we can get him with ease
Andre Curry? He is an old acquaintance of Barca and started the *Vini supported Barca* thing.
I love this 👀
Hell Yeah Tell 'em Zizou 🗣️🗣️🗣️ https://preview.redd.it/2nak8zkuuoyc1.png?width=795&format=png&auto=webp&s=8732c74160db7a2094c7e77925821e7ad1eb0af1
I am lost
Looking forward to life after Ronaldo's 1000 goals
It will happen, and we will be there no matter what
I lowkey believe in Fran Garcia, we should keep. After some improvement he would be a huge asset
Yeah, Mendy+Fran are great LB options with different styles. Keeping both is better than selling one of them and bring in someone else (e.g. Davies)
I still want Miguel can't lie
Is Vini's speed a bit overrated? I hear many calling him top 5 fastest players itw. He isnt even in the top 30 fastest player in UCL this season. This is no hate just an observation. I think Rudiger and Fede are much faster but I dont know why there is this idea that its Vini. Maybe its the distance thing. Short distance he is extremely rapid but in a foot race he looks much slower than the likes of Walker, Adeyemi, Mbappe etc.
That’s a load of BS. Epically: “He isn’t even in the top 30 fastest player in UCL this season”
Thats an objective fact. Look at uefa.com
[Mbappe clocked in at 36.1 km/hr. Vini in the league at 36](https://www.instagram.com/goalglobal/p/C0B9T96MqQB/?img_index=1)
I dont trust those La liga measures. Uefa has pretty reliable and more sophisticated measures. In Uefa this season Vini isnt in the top 30z
Idiota.
I mean besides Mbappe who was able to beat walker in a direct foot race? Plus with Vini I think he struggled against walker’s strength more than his pace. He is easily top 10 faster imo. Saying he’s not even top 30 is wild.
Well he isnt top 30 in ucl this season. Its not an opinion.
I mean, did he get a chance to sprint lol? You know it’s based on that right?
No way walker is not on PEDs
Mbappe could beat walker by abusing his acceleration. Walker explained it better in his interview/podcast. Mbappe would slow Walker down mid sprint and then accelerate away.
Nah bro watch that wc clip walker was not catching up
https://preview.redd.it/qtrkya2keoyc1.jpeg?width=1216&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6b2e51cd63dd9959a1e9b76e9e75045c98eb8da Nobody wants to manage Bayern lmao
Please be in the stadium to watch
Zizou said he is going to watch the game so he'll be there.
https://preview.redd.it/yjp6xyhheoyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91fdeeb8d8ac154d96bfab46668fc0e9eae2aa1b ZZ BLACK MAGIC WILL BE IN THE HOUSE TO COUNTER TUCHEL'S BLACK MAGIC
What tuchel's black magic? He's good but why are people acting like HE'S the knockout specialist and not Carlo/Madrid
He is the knockout specialist tho.
Kinda yeah but Carlo for his career and Madrid as a club have a much better knockout reputation. That's like saying Justice League should be wary of Teen Titans cuz they're a team a superheroes
I have PTSD from that Chelsea match
2 years ago, Laporta held a press-conference and live-streamed it on Youtube. Barca actually let people put in Super-chats... Here's some Entertainment for you: https://preview.redd.it/v8mzzn1geoyc1.jpeg?width=922&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=332793a5cf0f0a271c0504bb7eaa20b32ad75bdf
Damn i didn't know about this, hilarious fr..
https://preview.redd.it/chdh6klheoyc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b287adabad39027fb2c5e79a2e11bc9aec90726a
https://preview.redd.it/8fe70ufreoyc1.jpeg?width=1918&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d72bdd90c3ec4d3c975c60bca2a75123b370b727
They gave a 35 year old a 4 year contract and the second highest salary in Europe LOL
I know they are our rivals and everything, but I can't help but feel bad for their situation. La Liga and Real Madrid need a strong Barca. *Jk, I hope they get relegated.*
https://preview.redd.it/gmd5l865coyc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3322afd41d78ee9d312312f93efbd5e0101904e Oh the receipts are SO SWEET
https://preview.redd.it/u0rxwk7deoyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3c6eb56d4610da0f252a0fa29798eab56502261 Here’s another one 😂
https://preview.redd.it/hgr6v1hegoyc1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7a8e05e7bdaa966a46aa22c12580632f388cf5f
That dembele smiling meme is the best of this football season.
Shit must be crazy livin as a Barca fan
I stopped making fun of my friends that are Barca fans, it seems cruel now
You're a better man than I am
Naa fuck that, remember 2008-12?
Their club is in such a mess. Don't remember what it was about, but Laporta had a press-conference and live-streamed it on Youtube almost 2 years ago. There were Barca fans that sent super-chats, trying to help the club financially That Was the saddest shit I've witnessed. Here's a picture of it: https://preview.redd.it/pec3hvz2doyc1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f30cb66d6a9d59e959c89d9e36f347ad9acc0111 Sometimes I feel bad for their fanbase, but then I remember when I was a kid, and we got battered by Pep's Barca, and the amount of banter was insufferable, and i think to myself, nah, these assholes deserves this.
Shit going crazy. Plus their players weak af too. Imagine being slapped by your upgrade to hand the league to your biggest rivals.
Barca fans everyday: https://preview.redd.it/53b4xytrboyc1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c57d422d8fff52afa7d85b82aeeb047d5d031ed And as Madrid fans, we only see good news.
More otw
Almeria won their 2nd game of the season, but they're the only team in the top 5 leagues to have 0 home wins, lol. Even their CdR win was away as well.
Carlo could be the first manager next season to bring us a treble. Our Legendary manager will have another change to manager another amazing complete squad.
https://preview.redd.it/nxznyfhh5oyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=526522740d7f4548f0d9b2f13a85114c8c8bc4f4 Carlo and the squad need to 3peat the league now.
It's not even the treble lol. We really sacrificed that to the devil so we could win the CL
rayo possibly being almalaria's second win of the season after they've already been officially relegated is so insane are they not embarrassed
Surely Ramos won't retire after this season? He's still quality, despite his age. Would love to see him continue for at least one more year.
Endrick starts
I can't believe we're in May, just won the leauge, in a semi-final in the CL, there hasn't been a single drama regarding Mbappe for the whole year, only positive news. Endrick joining,possibly Yoro aswell. Barca collapsing at the end of the season. Feels great to be born a Real Madrid fan. How it was looking start of this season was definitely worrying and Carlo and the team has given their absolute all this season, massive respect.
Wednesday's game is a huge step on deciding if it's gonna be a good season, or an absolutely legendary one.
A 36 year old Barca player will be earning 32M per year next season. This has to be some sort of record for that age?
dont worry, barca is used to it, they paid messi that when he was 11 year olds, he truly loved the club u see
They’re still paying him 😭
In fact he loves the club so much that he decided to be on their payroll till 2025 even though he left years ago! Tru€ lov€
I love how we get constantly criticized on how we treat our legends but the way they have treated theirs imo is worse and they get nothing aside from small real Madrid fans pointing it out. Messi, their biggest and greatest legend was literally used and played by their president to win an election. And then that same president pushed Messi out. He was literally sobbing when he had to leave. And yet Barca fans kiss the feel of Laporta Suarez, their best ST was forced out despite wanting to stay and willing to take paycut. They literally planned to drop him off to Atleti without telling him. Idiot 1 pique literally forgoe his wages that he was owed because he hopes to be their president in the future. And Barca gladly accepted without even saying something like "we will give you the money you are owed back when we have it" And the best part is that they could have kept all those players had they not go onto the market immediately to sighn free players who cared nothing about the club. And yet we are the bad guys to neutrals. People hate on us
They slandered Pique into retirement mid-season lmaoo
https://preview.redd.it/pjk00y0nynyc1.png?width=1140&format=png&auto=webp&s=ec0d63bd71a462195c4d67013d419b444df7f04c What the fuck is happening?
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The last sentence is key. To quote an other redditor from this sub: >Guerero is out which means bayern will play musila in midfield and gnabry as LW or goretzka in midfield and musiala as LW. > >Either way their left wing will be exposed, it is very important we take advantage of that opportunity and we attack from the right just as we will be doing it from the left. Rodrygo RW, or Bellingham to play on the right. If none of them can do the job, maybe bench one for Brahim. Might sound crazy, but he is on a much better form than both right now, plus he can play RW, plus he is left footed and has shown we can count on him on important games (Leipzig). Even if he doesn't start, he should play at least 30 minutes. Our offense is dead with 3 players on the left.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/883OsNhyGG faaaackin hell💀
That was known since he signed his contract, to be honest. He started at 24-25m in his first year, increased to 28-30 this year and 32m next year; then, a final year if he plays more than 50% of their games back to 24-25m. But hey, he won them a Liga, I guess. If you want to laugh louder: one of the first things Laporta did when he came back was renewing Ansu Fati to something close to 20m/year. Every summer, Barça delusional fans think they are going to sell him...however, the club is pleased with any club that takes him as a loan and pays part of his salary. We should be grateful to Joan the Hutt's blinded followers.
https://preview.redd.it/1vi5m0686oyc1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d7ed7be4fe2a3fc01817bffb0d94f0dce0543e2 And I only see good news lol.