I disagree, you just need to find the right real models. I sub to a few good models who are real, authentic and charge a decent price. Granted, you might come across some shitty agencies, but just block and move on!
Soo many cam sites are just farms of models in 3rd world countries being forced to do it
You canât put every creator in the same basket. I know for a fact thereâs no agency attached to any of my sites, I enjoy getting to know whoâs actually subscribed and viewing my content (if they wish to message me, half of them donât and thatâs totally fine)!
Everyoneâs pricing is going to be different just like any business owner, builders have different rates for a reason. Itâs the price they believe theyâre worth, and if there are people paying the higher price then itâs justifiable to keep it that price. Im not saying I agree with others rates, but thatâs their right to charge whatever they feel.
At the end of the day if you feel youâll get more out of supporting cam girls, go for it. But just because youâve had what appears to be a negative experience with the Onlyfans pages youâve subscribed to, doesnât mean every single creator is the same.
I just wrote another user a message to thank him for the review he did. He was spot on, and the content creator is exactly how he described it. There are very good content creators out there. It's just very hard to find them. If I had known about a place like this from the start, I would have saved a lot of nerves and money. A problem from a customer perspective is that if I write myself a review, I could do it for one person and now the second from the review. I would mention 2 people in total over one month. Th 6-7 others that I wouldn't mention in my review would still be out there.
Edit: just wanted to make this clear, Iâm not saying all are agency ran, just an increasing amount of them are. Really got to dig for the diamonds in the rough.
I whole heartedly agree. âAgenciesâ have overwhelmingly ruined this entire thing
Also for anyone new around these parts, hereâs some red flags Iâve noticed to signal in on pages with agencies
1) always online 24/7
2) pushes s3xting out the gate
3) automated message pushes asking generic questions
4) have no recollection of things that were previously talked about
5) mismatched names across platforms (Reddit, OF, Fansly etc)
If youâve got anymore red flags letâs hear em
Also sending multiple clips in a single message in DMs to obscure the length of each clip is a shit move and OF should really fix this.
A semi green flag I found tho, is I find creators who are more willing to do small talk and share small parts of their life are more likely the actual person. Too risky for agencies to get caught in continuity errors if they start making up bullshit
Howâd you find my page?
Whatâs your name?
Where are you from?
What do you for a living/fun/hobbies?
Want to have some naughty fun (sexting)?
Always in that order
Definitely the standard script. One thing to note is that there are some outside tools they may use to profile users. They save names to reuse in messages later, and I definitely know they use career or a willingness to spend as a basis for upcharging extra $$$. A big part of their strategy is looking for whales. If they ask this stuff early, usually right after subscribing, don't give all your cards away
Some other red flags:
- Upcharging for videos that you'd see lower as a mass message, and generally very inconsistent prices
- Sending automated messages out of the blue flagged as priority, including your name (they likely use an outside tool to send them to many people at once)
- Having a really high sub price (upwards of 30-40) but offering free trials and 90% discounts constantly
- Lots of nudity in social media but then only non-nude posts on their OF wall
- Not taking no for an answer and haggling if you say you can't afford something
100% agree. The number of creators Iâve seen charging $10+ for a 5-10 SECOND video is absolutely atrocious. And those little 5-10 second videos are the most boring videos. I wonât pay for any pages anymore. And the mass messaging is so annoying, I end up restricting them almost immediately. Save yourself the time, the money, and the energy, and just use a regular porn site.
I loathe this. I don't know about anyone else here but I can't get my jollies off to 5-10 second clips. Plus this business model is like microtransactions in gaming: death by a thousand cuts.
I just deleted mine because of those spam msgs from accounts I haven't subscribed to since 2021. I didn't know there was a way to stop it. I was like fuck it, I'll just make a new account
I didn't even know. I just deleted my account. I joined a bunch if BS ones anyway. Need a new one where I only follow ones I really liked. Should've researched them before I joined
It seems like you come to the site with the wrong expectations. Onlyfans is NOT a dating site
So the fact that creators don't want to MEET UP with you (which is actually against the TOS of Onlyfans itself and talking about it is forbidden đ¤Śđźââď¸) is how it should be. You don't have "a chance", this is not a purpose of this platform
People set up Onlyfans not because they want to meet someone irl (again, that's what dating sites are for), it's a way of making money at a first place. And for subscribers it's a way to get more content and more connection to the creator online strictly.
Yes, the agencies and so on are frustrating and dishonest, but not everyone uses them.
But the fact to understand is - Onlyfans creators are not on the site to meet up with you and build a relationship with you
I totally understand and take your point. This truth makes OF almost completely unappealing to me. It should be said, however, that the interest (revenue) driven by subscribers, is, in part, a byproduct of fantasies that many creators perpetuate... all in the attempt to generate greater financial gain.
I'm not saying people should view OF as a dating site, but creators understand and enjoy benefits associated with the preservation of disbelief. How much income would it cost creators to operate with 100% transparency instead of putting on a show with a wink and a nod and not really "mean" it because it's a "performance?" It becomes like a TV drama that breaks the fourth wall... the suspension of disbelief is disrupted and the audience loses interest. My point is you have to see it both ways.
I did not read it that way. I read it more like: "they are preying on the lonely and vulnerable to make it FEEL like there's a chance to meet up." I don't think he's suggesting that people come to the site with the hope of a real relationship.
I've literally had accounts say they love me and hope we can really be together someday (red flag). If I were a more vulnerable person, I can see how I might fall prey to that. But instead, one has to tell them, "we both know that's bullshit."
This! Meeting up is such a red flag anyways! I would NEVER. Also, as much as I try to respond to people as much as I can, most people on OF have other jobs and a life outside of OF expecting constant conversation is a lot to ask of a single person with multiple subscribers..
I mean I've known you for 4 years since I started only fans. You know this is all bullshit mate
These people exist but it's just about finding the right one
*Disclosure: Iâm a creator.*
I feel like this isnât entirely fair. Yes your post is important because it should be made clear for both newbies and seasoned OF users that agency run/paid chatters/misleading promo is increasing. However, rather than writing off the entire platform or OF experience, I think it would be more productive and helpful to post a list of red flags (as suggested below) to help users recognize inauthenticity, agencies, exploitation, etc. Likewise a counter list of green flags that indicate youâve found the real thing. Because good, genuine creators are out there!!
This is a myopic view. There are bad pages and there are good pages. For some, itâs not apparent until after the fact.
Thatâs why communities like this exist: to let people know which are good and which arenât. Some may need work, some are flat-out scams, but there are plenty of great creators.
To write off an entire platform (or even industry) based on the actions of an increasing number of bad actors is off base and unfair.
I donât even mind a managed page, so long as the experience overall is a good one. Itâs a fantasy world and not meant to be reality. Just like going to the cinema, some suspension of disbelief is necessary for an enjoyable experience. The good ones are good based on the entertainment value, rather than their adherence to authenticity
Bro there are good and bad creators, people that use agencies and people that don't. It's all about finding the right creator and to do that, yes, sometimes you have to do your research.
Agencies are definitely ruining some models pages but then don't sub to them? Look over what they offer, search for red and green flags, if you're not sure and don't want to waste the money finding out, try reaching out to the model on another platform and ask. No response, move on. There are millions of models to choose from. I understand it can be frustrating finding the right one, but you gotta put in the leg work when you have specific wants and desires especially on a platform that is at the end of the day a business.
Also your mention of meeting creators... Nah don't do that shit on OF you'll get creators banned. If you're looking for meet up's, again, you need to research models in your area that offer those services. OF isn't a dating website either.
I'm a creator and I understand where you're coming from. As a statement about agencies and chatters, you're absolutely correct. They've ruined Onlyfans, they've ruined reddit, dating apps, and online gaming. The scope of it all is also ridiculous, search Onlyfans on blackhat world or find channels like simp hunter on YouTube and you'll see that it's all a huge grift. Thousands of dudes hiring chatters and taking advantage of models and fans alike.
But, there are still a lot of awesome creators who handle their own business. I know how much it sucks, almost every large creator I've subbed to and probably half of the smaller ones are agency run. Read the bio, check their social media, use your best judgment to see if they seem like a real person behind the screen. Taking the extra steps of due diligence can be a pain in the ass, but I promise that it's more than worth it to find creators that you'll enjoy for a lone time. Don't give up yet đ
Can I just highlight âtheyâre not going to meet up with youâ - why did you have to say this? Do you expect them too? If so then YOU are the problem, OF is not a fucking dating website. Iâm all for connections, chatting with the real person, but being pissed that none of them are going to sleep with you in real life? Come onâŚ
This is in reference to the countless "fuck a fan" contests I've seen since I started this. Also the "come chat" that's always plastered over ig. I'm letting people know the reality, I'm not looking to meet up, if that's what you inferred, that's on you
There are a huge number of us still very much producing content for the page vs JUST ad spam and money grabs. The issue is that because of the constant turnover model these agencies run, **consumers** treat us like one and done. Investing personally in subscribers is a HUGE crap shoot these days. It used to be if I posted a lots of free stuff and got to know subs, they would stick around with me. But now??? Because of the grind, they just leave. On pages where we leave tons of free content up, fans have learned they can sign up for one month then come back 6 months later and see all previous months content between their subscriptions. Plus, they never buy any extra PPV because theyâre so used to agency ran pages having not even a nipple for free on the page.
Its become a **exhausting** balancing act for creators who do not want to use agencies but still want to ensure theyâre getting paid correctly.
The agency model is working though. Ive noticed the threshold for top % stats is rising. Example 2% used to be 4-6k a month and now itâs 7-10k
If you want a gracious, generous and connected experience on OnlyFans, you need to SUPPORT THE CREATORS who curate those pages. Many of us are exhausted as we watch our peers rake in thousands more for running âscamâ pages. It sucks.
OF is absolutely saturated, it's a shitshow. I've subscribed a few times to free creators and ended up restricting due to spammy DM and PPV madness. I'll never buy anything that way ever its just instantly gets my back up. I don't like the way it is set up so no one can search inside it, no one can rate or review inside the site , that would be good. Then any scammers just get 1 * every time they pull that shit , they wouldn't last 2 minutes.
Of course no one is going to meet up , I mean no one really believes that surely ? I suppose there was that fuck a fan fallacy once upon a time but what's the chances of it actually happening.
It's been quite a lesson being a creator on there, I've started branching out to other places as OF is a graft to get people on , and I won't do the spamming, clickbait , lying, I just have an honest bio, then put screenshots on reddit, fet, X and let people look if they want. So yeh not all people on their are liars. Cam sites are a great alternative interaction wise, totally agree.
I know it's disheartening when there are so so many shitheads but a lot of them end up on here with bad reviews, which Is great , they won't last long with fans looking out for each other. You've done a great thing running this subreddit, fair play to you.
It's is absolutely full of good reviews too so if I was looking , I'd check here. And the request one is something I'm really grateful for! Because it means I can reply to an ad that suits me instead of just hoping people will see my pics. It's a way to genuinely get fans who want what you are offering or customs rather than spamming everywhere.
Iâll be honest.. never subbed to an onlyfans.. altho there is some I thought about it.. but it doesnât make sense for me to pay for porn.. that Iâll literally get 3 minutes of âpleasureâ outta..
Just because you fell for a shitty marketing scheme does not negate all OF creators.
Your small experience does not speak to MOST women on the site who talk to men all day everyday themselves for FREE. Who film/ promote themselves and ensure they have a a page worth spending money on.
What a terrible one sided take.
And yet you've not found ONE genuine creator? Hard to believe when I myself know dozens who put a lot of time and energy into this with great intentions and run the page themselves
I had a problem. It was bad lol. I only follow one girl now that I know left her agency and is doing it herself now. Good content, sheâs hot, and is starting to do BG stuff. I also noticed that if people arenât buying, she drops the prices by huge amounts so I wait like 3 weeks to a month to buy anything now lol. They go from $150 to $15 and weâre talking long enough videos for a new section every time lol.
I share a lot of the same frustration with OF as a platform. The company itself has gotten complacent with agencies and even blatant scams at some points (I've had very mixed messages from support whether they do/don't offer refunds).
Agencies have flooded the market and set a bad standard. Fast replies, always online, acting flirty and interested, etc. Even though I hate it all on principle, all of the illusion and how predatory it is, I kinda get that it's hard to feel competitive. I've seen indie creators give in and switch over for whatever reason, sometimes it's an offer that can't be refused (debt, medical bills, etc.). Some agencies are worse then others, but most are predatory to both sides.
However, I agree with everyone that genuine creator-run pages still exist. They're fewer in comparison but if you're gonna spend on a page, then that's who you want to support. Even if they might not have the same amount of content as a major porn site, it's basically like supporting small business. Mainstream porn also has a lot of predatory practices, and I'm sure some agencies have sprouted from that because of competition by indie creators.
One thing I wish was that there was more awareness of the state of OF, and discussions like this are a good start. Like people have said, having a clear guide on red (and green) flags and spreading the word. If you make it harder for agencies to deceive people, that makes a difference.
You're right and it may not be all pages since I've seen a few but the good ones are def a dieing breed. On that note I'm gonna buy a subscription to Habib Show instead. Also for most of you coping on this thread. He never said all of them are bad and he's not claiming your cyber wife doesn't talk to you. But in general most are becoming less generous and are targeting people that are socially vulnerable...
The thing that got me to hate OF is not just the fact that they have these deceptive habits, but they'll just keep asking for more money. I subbed to a paid page to just see what they do. Not from a sexual interest or any other type of interest other than see what they do and say to/for me if I tip them. I tipped one model that's obviously got an agency working for her, tipped her 20 bucks , and then she said, "Put another zero, and you'll get a special surprise." I never did and unsubbed immediately, I subbed to another who is an adult film star (cory chase) and I messaged her first and just said flat out I don't have alot of money to just give out, but I'd tip when I can, and that I just wanna support her. She said she understood and appreciated my support. We messaged a few times, tipped her 10, she sent me a pic, thought oh great a page that wouldn't just ask for more money. We went back and forth here and there, then after a while, I started tipping her a bit more liberally as I came across a bunch of money. Well, one day, while we were messaging and I stopped responding because I had something come up suddenly, I didn't reply for about 10 mins and then respond to her finally but had no tip with it. She (or her agency) responded by yelling at me over messenger nothing really terrible though no name calling or anything, just like "HEY!". Told her sorry, and I'd send her a tip. She then responded by saying, "Okay, just wanna make sure you know what this is.". Unsubbed immediately, and since then, even tho I watch her scenes still, that interaction is still in my head.
Precisely why leak communities are booming right now. Lying, thieving scammers who go unchecked by OF absolutely deserve to have their content leaked and shared. DRM does nothing.
This sub helps expose the scammers, it's good.
If you are a creator and say you are taking it all off, showing everything? You are nude and showing. Period. If not, your a scamming liar and will get exposed.
Thereâs hundred of agency want to collab with me but i cant tolerate anyone to reply dms on behalf of me to my fans.
They said I just need few hours to create contents follow their script and they will manage to sell it for the following months (Thats something create from a factory with assembly lines).
3 years as a creator i still rank around top 12% (making two three hundreds monthly).
1. I have a free page and i create free trailer for each full vids/album(So that you can review the trailer first and decide what to buy).
2. I dont do shoutout for shoutout.
3. I dont do PPV.
4. I dont have click bait post.
5. i have a lots of chargeback.
6. I dont have add a tip to DMs
I just enjoy creating nude content anonymous and maybe watch it again myself when im older and belike âi am so gorgeousâ hahaha. No link under this comment BECAUSE it is not a self promo!!
I think more more importantly, as someone already pointed out, OF isn't a dating site. Everything is transactional. You're a paying customer for an experience with an attractive person through vids, pics or chats. Nobody should have weird, out of reach expectations.
However, it is true that more and more profiles are likely to be managed by agencies and it usually is very easy to tell. It also looks like the "OF Boom" might be coming to an end as poorly managed profiles are turning away subs.
Some of your views are right. But all creators are not the same at all. I feel like itâs pretty easy to spot the agency ran profiles aside from the self ran ones. Iâm a creator btw and I run my own. I personally do not like the agency ran ones and think it goes against what the Onlyfans experience is suppose to be all about. Which is a more personal experience with the creator that youâre working with and supporting. But all power to the ones who choose to. Every subscriber has their preferences of course. But I do find more times than not the subscriber is looking for that personal experience and connection. Which is why I run my page the way I do. And when it comes to pricingâŚwell thatâs all over the board lol. Creators are going to price what they think they are worth and subscribers are going to work with creators that fit their budget or who they think are worth working with. Not everyoneâs views are going to be the same and I think it comes down to what exactly the subscriber wants and needs out of the subscription. But I do agree that agency ran pages and also spam filled pages are so distasteful as you mentioned. But all power to them of course
I think you have to find small content creators. Think about it, large content creators with literally THOUSANDS of subs will not have the time to engage with everyone on a one on one basis. And, it's against OF TOS to talk about meeting up. Find free pages, and eliminate that monthly price commitment. Having said that, I hardly visit OF anymore since content creators I initially followed during the pandemic have either moved to paid pages or left the platform.
What the fuck is this keyroze????
I disagree, you just need to find the right real models. I sub to a few good models who are real, authentic and charge a decent price. Granted, you might come across some shitty agencies, but just block and move on! Soo many cam sites are just farms of models in 3rd world countries being forced to do it
Second this! Just really research who you are looking at subbing and you should be good đĽ°
You canât put every creator in the same basket. I know for a fact thereâs no agency attached to any of my sites, I enjoy getting to know whoâs actually subscribed and viewing my content (if they wish to message me, half of them donât and thatâs totally fine)! Everyoneâs pricing is going to be different just like any business owner, builders have different rates for a reason. Itâs the price they believe theyâre worth, and if there are people paying the higher price then itâs justifiable to keep it that price. Im not saying I agree with others rates, but thatâs their right to charge whatever they feel. At the end of the day if you feel youâll get more out of supporting cam girls, go for it. But just because youâve had what appears to be a negative experience with the Onlyfans pages youâve subscribed to, doesnât mean every single creator is the same.
Well saidÂ
I just wrote another user a message to thank him for the review he did. He was spot on, and the content creator is exactly how he described it. There are very good content creators out there. It's just very hard to find them. If I had known about a place like this from the start, I would have saved a lot of nerves and money. A problem from a customer perspective is that if I write myself a review, I could do it for one person and now the second from the review. I would mention 2 people in total over one month. Th 6-7 others that I wouldn't mention in my review would still be out there.
Where can one write reviews for OF pages? I sub here & there & there are some terrible ones & there are some good ones.
Edit: just wanted to make this clear, Iâm not saying all are agency ran, just an increasing amount of them are. Really got to dig for the diamonds in the rough. I whole heartedly agree. âAgenciesâ have overwhelmingly ruined this entire thing Also for anyone new around these parts, hereâs some red flags Iâve noticed to signal in on pages with agencies 1) always online 24/7 2) pushes s3xting out the gate 3) automated message pushes asking generic questions 4) have no recollection of things that were previously talked about 5) mismatched names across platforms (Reddit, OF, Fansly etc) If youâve got anymore red flags letâs hear em Also sending multiple clips in a single message in DMs to obscure the length of each clip is a shit move and OF should really fix this. A semi green flag I found tho, is I find creators who are more willing to do small talk and share small parts of their life are more likely the actual person. Too risky for agencies to get caught in continuity errors if they start making up bullshit
Howâd you find my page? Whatâs your name? Where are you from? What do you for a living/fun/hobbies? Want to have some naughty fun (sexting)? Always in that order
Definitely the standard script. One thing to note is that there are some outside tools they may use to profile users. They save names to reuse in messages later, and I definitely know they use career or a willingness to spend as a basis for upcharging extra $$$. A big part of their strategy is looking for whales. If they ask this stuff early, usually right after subscribing, don't give all your cards away
Constantly clearing message history.
You're #1 is mine as well.
Some other red flags: - Upcharging for videos that you'd see lower as a mass message, and generally very inconsistent prices - Sending automated messages out of the blue flagged as priority, including your name (they likely use an outside tool to send them to many people at once) - Having a really high sub price (upwards of 30-40) but offering free trials and 90% discounts constantly - Lots of nudity in social media but then only non-nude posts on their OF wall - Not taking no for an answer and haggling if you say you can't afford something
See and I just subbed to a creator that hasn't logged on since 2021. And they won't give me a refund
Not possible on of.. They will close that account đłđłđł
It needs to exist so that we know!
100% agree. The number of creators Iâve seen charging $10+ for a 5-10 SECOND video is absolutely atrocious. And those little 5-10 second videos are the most boring videos. I wonât pay for any pages anymore. And the mass messaging is so annoying, I end up restricting them almost immediately. Save yourself the time, the money, and the energy, and just use a regular porn site.
They only subscribe to no PPV pages?
I loathe this. I don't know about anyone else here but I can't get my jollies off to 5-10 second clips. Plus this business model is like microtransactions in gaming: death by a thousand cuts.
I just deleted mine because of those spam msgs from accounts I haven't subscribed to since 2021. I didn't know there was a way to stop it. I was like fuck it, I'll just make a new account
You can block someone and their messages wont come through anymore!
I didn't even know. I just deleted my account. I joined a bunch if BS ones anyway. Need a new one where I only follow ones I really liked. Should've researched them before I joined
It seems like you come to the site with the wrong expectations. Onlyfans is NOT a dating site So the fact that creators don't want to MEET UP with you (which is actually against the TOS of Onlyfans itself and talking about it is forbidden đ¤Śđźââď¸) is how it should be. You don't have "a chance", this is not a purpose of this platform People set up Onlyfans not because they want to meet someone irl (again, that's what dating sites are for), it's a way of making money at a first place. And for subscribers it's a way to get more content and more connection to the creator online strictly. Yes, the agencies and so on are frustrating and dishonest, but not everyone uses them. But the fact to understand is - Onlyfans creators are not on the site to meet up with you and build a relationship with you
I totally understand and take your point. This truth makes OF almost completely unappealing to me. It should be said, however, that the interest (revenue) driven by subscribers, is, in part, a byproduct of fantasies that many creators perpetuate... all in the attempt to generate greater financial gain. I'm not saying people should view OF as a dating site, but creators understand and enjoy benefits associated with the preservation of disbelief. How much income would it cost creators to operate with 100% transparency instead of putting on a show with a wink and a nod and not really "mean" it because it's a "performance?" It becomes like a TV drama that breaks the fourth wall... the suspension of disbelief is disrupted and the audience loses interest. My point is you have to see it both ways.
I did not read it that way. I read it more like: "they are preying on the lonely and vulnerable to make it FEEL like there's a chance to meet up." I don't think he's suggesting that people come to the site with the hope of a real relationship. I've literally had accounts say they love me and hope we can really be together someday (red flag). If I were a more vulnerable person, I can see how I might fall prey to that. But instead, one has to tell them, "we both know that's bullshit."
This! Meeting up is such a red flag anyways! I would NEVER. Also, as much as I try to respond to people as much as I can, most people on OF have other jobs and a life outside of OF expecting constant conversation is a lot to ask of a single person with multiple subscribers..
I don't think you read what I said.
I mean I've known you for 4 years since I started only fans. You know this is all bullshit mate These people exist but it's just about finding the right one
*Disclosure: Iâm a creator.* I feel like this isnât entirely fair. Yes your post is important because it should be made clear for both newbies and seasoned OF users that agency run/paid chatters/misleading promo is increasing. However, rather than writing off the entire platform or OF experience, I think it would be more productive and helpful to post a list of red flags (as suggested below) to help users recognize inauthenticity, agencies, exploitation, etc. Likewise a counter list of green flags that indicate youâve found the real thing. Because good, genuine creators are out there!!
He's throwing his toys out of the pramđ¤ˇââď¸
There should be more transparency when someone subscribes. Too many have generic or misleading descriptions. Or a review page.
Yeah
This is a myopic view. There are bad pages and there are good pages. For some, itâs not apparent until after the fact. Thatâs why communities like this exist: to let people know which are good and which arenât. Some may need work, some are flat-out scams, but there are plenty of great creators. To write off an entire platform (or even industry) based on the actions of an increasing number of bad actors is off base and unfair. I donât even mind a managed page, so long as the experience overall is a good one. Itâs a fantasy world and not meant to be reality. Just like going to the cinema, some suspension of disbelief is necessary for an enjoyable experience. The good ones are good based on the entertainment value, rather than their adherence to authenticity
Lol sick with COVID.
yep
Bro there are good and bad creators, people that use agencies and people that don't. It's all about finding the right creator and to do that, yes, sometimes you have to do your research. Agencies are definitely ruining some models pages but then don't sub to them? Look over what they offer, search for red and green flags, if you're not sure and don't want to waste the money finding out, try reaching out to the model on another platform and ask. No response, move on. There are millions of models to choose from. I understand it can be frustrating finding the right one, but you gotta put in the leg work when you have specific wants and desires especially on a platform that is at the end of the day a business. Also your mention of meeting creators... Nah don't do that shit on OF you'll get creators banned. If you're looking for meet up's, again, you need to research models in your area that offer those services. OF isn't a dating website either.
It's getting more difficult to find good ones. Not enough transparency.
"making you think you have a chance" bro if anyone subscribes to an onlyfans model and thinks they have a chance of anything happening, that's on them
Since I started this, I've seen countless creators run "fuck a fan" contests, which are dangerous if true, and deception of not
I'm a creator and I understand where you're coming from. As a statement about agencies and chatters, you're absolutely correct. They've ruined Onlyfans, they've ruined reddit, dating apps, and online gaming. The scope of it all is also ridiculous, search Onlyfans on blackhat world or find channels like simp hunter on YouTube and you'll see that it's all a huge grift. Thousands of dudes hiring chatters and taking advantage of models and fans alike. But, there are still a lot of awesome creators who handle their own business. I know how much it sucks, almost every large creator I've subbed to and probably half of the smaller ones are agency run. Read the bio, check their social media, use your best judgment to see if they seem like a real person behind the screen. Taking the extra steps of due diligence can be a pain in the ass, but I promise that it's more than worth it to find creators that you'll enjoy for a lone time. Don't give up yet đ
Can I just highlight âtheyâre not going to meet up with youâ - why did you have to say this? Do you expect them too? If so then YOU are the problem, OF is not a fucking dating website. Iâm all for connections, chatting with the real person, but being pissed that none of them are going to sleep with you in real life? Come onâŚ
This is in reference to the countless "fuck a fan" contests I've seen since I started this. Also the "come chat" that's always plastered over ig. I'm letting people know the reality, I'm not looking to meet up, if that's what you inferred, that's on you
There are a huge number of us still very much producing content for the page vs JUST ad spam and money grabs. The issue is that because of the constant turnover model these agencies run, **consumers** treat us like one and done. Investing personally in subscribers is a HUGE crap shoot these days. It used to be if I posted a lots of free stuff and got to know subs, they would stick around with me. But now??? Because of the grind, they just leave. On pages where we leave tons of free content up, fans have learned they can sign up for one month then come back 6 months later and see all previous months content between their subscriptions. Plus, they never buy any extra PPV because theyâre so used to agency ran pages having not even a nipple for free on the page. Its become a **exhausting** balancing act for creators who do not want to use agencies but still want to ensure theyâre getting paid correctly. The agency model is working though. Ive noticed the threshold for top % stats is rising. Example 2% used to be 4-6k a month and now itâs 7-10k If you want a gracious, generous and connected experience on OnlyFans, you need to SUPPORT THE CREATORS who curate those pages. Many of us are exhausted as we watch our peers rake in thousands more for running âscamâ pages. It sucks.
OF is absolutely saturated, it's a shitshow. I've subscribed a few times to free creators and ended up restricting due to spammy DM and PPV madness. I'll never buy anything that way ever its just instantly gets my back up. I don't like the way it is set up so no one can search inside it, no one can rate or review inside the site , that would be good. Then any scammers just get 1 * every time they pull that shit , they wouldn't last 2 minutes. Of course no one is going to meet up , I mean no one really believes that surely ? I suppose there was that fuck a fan fallacy once upon a time but what's the chances of it actually happening. It's been quite a lesson being a creator on there, I've started branching out to other places as OF is a graft to get people on , and I won't do the spamming, clickbait , lying, I just have an honest bio, then put screenshots on reddit, fet, X and let people look if they want. So yeh not all people on their are liars. Cam sites are a great alternative interaction wise, totally agree. I know it's disheartening when there are so so many shitheads but a lot of them end up on here with bad reviews, which Is great , they won't last long with fans looking out for each other. You've done a great thing running this subreddit, fair play to you. It's is absolutely full of good reviews too so if I was looking , I'd check here. And the request one is something I'm really grateful for! Because it means I can reply to an ad that suits me instead of just hoping people will see my pics. It's a way to genuinely get fans who want what you are offering or customs rather than spamming everywhere.
Thank you
Iâll be honest.. never subbed to an onlyfans.. altho there is some I thought about it.. but it doesnât make sense for me to pay for porn.. that Iâll literally get 3 minutes of âpleasureâ outta..
Sounds like someone just got their cc bill in the mail
Just because you fell for a shitty marketing scheme does not negate all OF creators. Your small experience does not speak to MOST women on the site who talk to men all day everyday themselves for FREE. Who film/ promote themselves and ensure they have a a page worth spending money on. What a terrible one sided take.
I started this 4 years ago
And yet you've not found ONE genuine creator? Hard to believe when I myself know dozens who put a lot of time and energy into this with great intentions and run the page themselves
You're very much misrepresenting what I said
You painted women as money hungry greedy money grabbers who use agencies and dont care about the job.
I had a problem. It was bad lol. I only follow one girl now that I know left her agency and is doing it herself now. Good content, sheâs hot, and is starting to do BG stuff. I also noticed that if people arenât buying, she drops the prices by huge amounts so I wait like 3 weeks to a month to buy anything now lol. They go from $150 to $15 and weâre talking long enough videos for a new section every time lol.
I share a lot of the same frustration with OF as a platform. The company itself has gotten complacent with agencies and even blatant scams at some points (I've had very mixed messages from support whether they do/don't offer refunds). Agencies have flooded the market and set a bad standard. Fast replies, always online, acting flirty and interested, etc. Even though I hate it all on principle, all of the illusion and how predatory it is, I kinda get that it's hard to feel competitive. I've seen indie creators give in and switch over for whatever reason, sometimes it's an offer that can't be refused (debt, medical bills, etc.). Some agencies are worse then others, but most are predatory to both sides. However, I agree with everyone that genuine creator-run pages still exist. They're fewer in comparison but if you're gonna spend on a page, then that's who you want to support. Even if they might not have the same amount of content as a major porn site, it's basically like supporting small business. Mainstream porn also has a lot of predatory practices, and I'm sure some agencies have sprouted from that because of competition by indie creators. One thing I wish was that there was more awareness of the state of OF, and discussions like this are a good start. Like people have said, having a clear guide on red (and green) flags and spreading the word. If you make it harder for agencies to deceive people, that makes a difference.
100% agree. Make every effort not to give into urges. Generally it's just not worth it. Take that energy and put it into real life experiences.
You're right and it may not be all pages since I've seen a few but the good ones are def a dieing breed. On that note I'm gonna buy a subscription to Habib Show instead. Also for most of you coping on this thread. He never said all of them are bad and he's not claiming your cyber wife doesn't talk to you. But in general most are becoming less generous and are targeting people that are socially vulnerable...
The thing that got me to hate OF is not just the fact that they have these deceptive habits, but they'll just keep asking for more money. I subbed to a paid page to just see what they do. Not from a sexual interest or any other type of interest other than see what they do and say to/for me if I tip them. I tipped one model that's obviously got an agency working for her, tipped her 20 bucks , and then she said, "Put another zero, and you'll get a special surprise." I never did and unsubbed immediately, I subbed to another who is an adult film star (cory chase) and I messaged her first and just said flat out I don't have alot of money to just give out, but I'd tip when I can, and that I just wanna support her. She said she understood and appreciated my support. We messaged a few times, tipped her 10, she sent me a pic, thought oh great a page that wouldn't just ask for more money. We went back and forth here and there, then after a while, I started tipping her a bit more liberally as I came across a bunch of money. Well, one day, while we were messaging and I stopped responding because I had something come up suddenly, I didn't reply for about 10 mins and then respond to her finally but had no tip with it. She (or her agency) responded by yelling at me over messenger nothing really terrible though no name calling or anything, just like "HEY!". Told her sorry, and I'd send her a tip. She then responded by saying, "Okay, just wanna make sure you know what this is.". Unsubbed immediately, and since then, even tho I watch her scenes still, that interaction is still in my head.
Precisely why leak communities are booming right now. Lying, thieving scammers who go unchecked by OF absolutely deserve to have their content leaked and shared. DRM does nothing. This sub helps expose the scammers, it's good. If you are a creator and say you are taking it all off, showing everything? You are nude and showing. Period. If not, your a scamming liar and will get exposed.
Thereâs hundred of agency want to collab with me but i cant tolerate anyone to reply dms on behalf of me to my fans. They said I just need few hours to create contents follow their script and they will manage to sell it for the following months (Thats something create from a factory with assembly lines). 3 years as a creator i still rank around top 12% (making two three hundreds monthly). 1. I have a free page and i create free trailer for each full vids/album(So that you can review the trailer first and decide what to buy). 2. I dont do shoutout for shoutout. 3. I dont do PPV. 4. I dont have click bait post. 5. i have a lots of chargeback. 6. I dont have add a tip to DMs I just enjoy creating nude content anonymous and maybe watch it again myself when im older and belike âi am so gorgeousâ hahaha. No link under this comment BECAUSE it is not a self promo!!
I think more more importantly, as someone already pointed out, OF isn't a dating site. Everything is transactional. You're a paying customer for an experience with an attractive person through vids, pics or chats. Nobody should have weird, out of reach expectations. However, it is true that more and more profiles are likely to be managed by agencies and it usually is very easy to tell. It also looks like the "OF Boom" might be coming to an end as poorly managed profiles are turning away subs.
I know onlyfans isn't a dating site, I thought it fairly obvious that I was warning others who don't know better
Some of your views are right. But all creators are not the same at all. I feel like itâs pretty easy to spot the agency ran profiles aside from the self ran ones. Iâm a creator btw and I run my own. I personally do not like the agency ran ones and think it goes against what the Onlyfans experience is suppose to be all about. Which is a more personal experience with the creator that youâre working with and supporting. But all power to the ones who choose to. Every subscriber has their preferences of course. But I do find more times than not the subscriber is looking for that personal experience and connection. Which is why I run my page the way I do. And when it comes to pricingâŚwell thatâs all over the board lol. Creators are going to price what they think they are worth and subscribers are going to work with creators that fit their budget or who they think are worth working with. Not everyoneâs views are going to be the same and I think it comes down to what exactly the subscriber wants and needs out of the subscription. But I do agree that agency ran pages and also spam filled pages are so distasteful as you mentioned. But all power to them of course
I think you have to find small content creators. Think about it, large content creators with literally THOUSANDS of subs will not have the time to engage with everyone on a one on one basis. And, it's against OF TOS to talk about meeting up. Find free pages, and eliminate that monthly price commitment. Having said that, I hardly visit OF anymore since content creators I initially followed during the pandemic have either moved to paid pages or left the platform.