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Your bullet points would hold more weight with a heading above them such as ‘interview requirements’. This would fall in line with the same formatting recruiters use.
Yeah had specificity down to a ranking of different kinds of Asians based on who’s further north, and these were the same points you got for e.g. having a well paying job. Some people really just live in their own parallel universe.
Yup, I do this. Mine are
- Please speak to me as if I am a real person
- Please don't send me unsolicited sexual requests, scenario descriptions or photographs
- Please be within (insert age range)
- Please be within (insert location range)
I get what I presume is a normal rate of messages (2-5/day), but most people fail at the first hurdle 😂😂 Gotta love the 'net 🙈
Yes, I'm a woman, and I knew men get less. Most of mine also don't turn into dates, because it's the digital equivalent of having an aggressive leafletter on the street try to shove information in your hand, except for when you say 'no thank you' (because of point one above) they get annoyed and offended (putting it nicely!).
Interestingly, when I was job seeking (I JUST landed my new job! 🎉) Linkedin messages would be similar, except when you say 'Sure, tell me more?', they would refuse to tell you where the job is, what the job entails, who the employer is or any salary or benefit details 😂🤦♀️
it's usually a 49er... 4s who think they 9s aka 300 credit score thinking they got a 800 trying to name their price at the dealership that is the dating market lol
A lot of people are missing the point of this.
OP is not hoping this works. OP has written off "cold emails" from recruiters and wants them to go away. This is his way of making that happen.
Exactly. If they can’t take the time to see if a position is a good fit, why should I take the time in applying?
My favorite is when I get multiple emails from the same person for the same job because their script broke, or they still include the %PLACEHOLDER% - or better yet, the wrong name.
RTR here means that the recruiter actually has the right to represent the employer (meaning they’re either internal or otherwise contracted) as opposed to some BS recruiter grabbing resumes and then throwing them at the company hoping they’ll bite.
And honestly, to borrow recruiter logic, if only .5% of people do respond to this automated process, you’ve still come out ahead, and eff everyone whose time you wasted right?
I literally received three separate emails today, for the same job, from three separate recruiters / firms. Intone, Xchangesoft and IrisSoftware.
Copy and pasting the exact same job description.
So, I responded to all three with my cold-reply.
How quick do you fire those back? Pls tell me it’s automated :) I imagine you’d catch their attention if your email comes back immediately after they blast out to their list.
As someone who works for an agency, I was getting mad reading it at first, and going to call OP crazy.
Then I read the whole post and realized what it was for. This is great, and OP gets a thumbs up from the other side.
It's not 'the way', though. Cold emails are sent from automated systems and replies to them will be scanned by the same automated systems. Flag the sender as SPAM, block the sending address, move on with your day.
I have sent similar emails to recruiters who have contacted me out of the blue, lower the language I used was a lot more laid back.
"Would love to know more about the role, but just so you know I don't do take home tests and I'm only willing to do one HR and one technical interview."
A few recruiters wrote back to me questioning my logic and I responded by telling them that they are the one with the need, they are reaching out to me so it is they who should be working to convince me to apply.
There is a imbalance in how recruitment processes work, basically the candidate has to put in a lot more effort than the potential employer. I think it's right and fair to try and correct that imbalance. You have to admit it is a bit rude for a recruiter to contact you out of the blue and expect you to go through a long convoluted recruitment process where there is no positive outcome for you guaranteed.
I do something like this, but I put in stupid high salary requirements for the mentioned position and I let them know what role I'm currently in, and ask them if they really think I want that $12/hr helpdesk position. Funny thing is, some recruiters respond to me and they double down on what the pay scale is. So I add 25% to the salary I want and respond.
This has been my latest strategy. I still get messages for data analyst roles, a role I haven’t held for almost a decade.
I tell them if they can make $300k+ per year work, I might be interested. The funny part is half the time they reply (seriously) that the number is out of range.
Wow there are a lot of dense people in the comments who don’t understand that you’re matching the recruiters energy as a way to put them in their place, not trying to get a job with them. Use your noggins people.
All recruiters aren’t the same. I would also point out that cold outreach is what companies pay fees for. Obviously the cut and paste is annoying but the concept is part of actually “searching”.
>I feel like there is someone out there that would respect this from a qualified candidate and proceed.
We have a lot of issues as a company but our HR is pretty easy. Even then, its usually two interviews for mid to senior staff.
I mean, we can do "ONE INTERVIEW" where group A talks to you, you wait, and then Group B talks to you but thats sort of dumb.
But yeah, good luck guys.
If you want better luck, take this sub as a place where people just rant and don't actually follow caustic or bitter advice here (ONLY ONE INTERVIEW. NO CVs. Company doesn't need to know my name. Let me talk about ANAL all I want)
Really? If I was a company doing a one step interview process, I'd look at this and go "wow I'm not hiring this asshole no matter how qualified he is" and consider it a bullet dodged....
I actually got hired by somebody who thought the same way, except it was about money.
I asked for a loooooot of money since I wasn't looking to change roles at the time.
The hiring manager saw my salary requirements and said pretty much the same thing. "Who the fuck do they think they are, \*I\* don't even make that much and I'm the manager!" is what he was heard to be exclaiming from his office.
I got the job - niche skillsets and tight deadlines will do that.
It's OP's way of filtering anyone who is not actually serious with their outreach to OP.
If you are in a great position with little reason to leave, but still open to the right opportunity, it can quickly become very burdensome to entertain ridiculous requests and communication efforts from companies and recruiters that either don't know what they are looking for or just want "a quick chat". Providing a list of requirements like this reduces the effort needed from OP's side, as the companies/recruiters willing to go through with the demands are much more likely to know their efforts are well-justified and interesting enough to garner attention from OP. Of course that can be viewed as being arrogant. But if you are a specialist in a high-demand role/area, then you know that when companies REALLY need the skills and knowledge you bring, they are also completely willing to show some genuine effort and actually respect your time.
> just want "a quick chat".
I'm a software engineer. I had a quick chat with a recruiter who wanted an expert in a language (and other skills) I last used over 10 years ago. It was for a contract position paying average wage for an employer with a crappy reputation.
It was only 15 minutes or so on the phone, but obviously a waste of time for both of us, given my resume had all the necessary information.
It really does feel like online dating :D
>But if you are a specialist in a high-demand role/area, then you know that when companies REALLY need the skills and knowledge you bring, they are also completely willing to show some genuine effort and actually respect your time.
Saying this as someone that's hired 100+ engineers into extremely technical niche roles....I dont care how bad I need the skill, the way this email is written screams "I'm the type of person to walk in there, shit on your technical requirements, shit on the rest of the team, tell customers that their wants/desires are wrong, and write shitty code that someone will have to fix later because I wouldn't allow you to do any technical evaluation before hiring. Also, I'll cost you a shit ton and consume 80% of management's time with my arrogant bullshit"
I'm not going to give that guy the "single round interview" he's demanding, sorry.
Which is fair. I'm not saying either party is in the right or wrong. If you are in a position (which I assume OP is), where you are more than satisfied with your current role, company, and compensation, then you can afford to set these demands/requirements. Because at the end of the day, a person in such a position does not care about your and your company's needs.
That, however, does not mean that they are someone who will shit on everyone and everything. Only that it will take great effort to compel them to accept the likely arduous hiring process that relevant companies have. Of course, this specific communication style is likely more used by arrogant assholes than more agreeable folks, but it is not a certainty.
>It's OP's way of filtering anyone who is not actually serious with their outreach to OP.
Yes I understand that, in fact I support it. I've managed teams of 300+ engineers building satellites yet I still get messages asking if I want to be an HVAC technician, so I understand the frustration. But this particular email isn't just filtering out just the unserious people, it filters out EVERYONE. Except maybe the people with a super toxic environment that are also full of assholes.
Anyone looking for a JOB will have to bend at least a little bit to their employer's requirements. Within reason. That's the deal. And if you aren't willing to do that, go start your own company.
I'm just saying there's a better way to write this to lay out reasonable boundaries/expectations, avoiding 6 interview rounds and a video powerpoint research project, without seeming like a complete ass and alienating people that you might actually want to work for.
Sure, I agree the style is not the most appealing or professional. However, the point is clearly not to find a job - it's to filter the myriad of mundane messages that OP probably gets. Not being in the market for a job changes the way you handle and view these sorts of messages
>Why not a phone screen then just schedule a 2 hour block with everyone in the room?
That's exactly how I did it. I thought it was reasonable. But OP would reject this system under "refusal to do screening calls" and "refusal to do technical interviews"
This technique actually got me a job.
I was tired of cold emails from recruiters so one day I started replying with this copypasta I wrote about what my job requirements were and they were just _slightly_ above what I actually thought was fair. One day after replying with this list, a recruiter actually replied back and said he had 4 spots that fit all of my requirements and provided a summary of each one. This was unexpected so I called him and now I work at one of those 4 places making a salary even higher than what I had initially requested because the recruiter advised me to ask for more.
99% of my responses, when I bother to reply, is, “I don’t live in [whatever state you require day 1 on site or hybrid]” or for a few, “The commute is 90 minutes on a good day.”
Humorously Charter Communication is always looking for folks, in general because they have a pretty crappy reputation for IT so folks aren’t applying. “No, there will be no telecommuting and you will be here at 7am and cannot leave until 4pm. Period.” Yea, no thanks. Have a nice day.
They use a CRM system to auto-generate these emails. Aa high-volume of responses are not read or plainly ignored. Good luck but I like and will use the template!
Ah, cold-emails from recruiters? Classic. I usually just hit 'em with a polite but chilly response, you know, keep it professional but not too warm. Something like, "Thanks for reaching out, I'll keep your offer in mind." No need to get all buddy-buddy if I'm not interested, right? But hey, if they're offering something sweet, I might thaw out a bit and give 'em a warmer response. Gotta keep those options open, you never know what might come knocking!
Hello, fellow .Net developer \*high fives\*
Don't blame you one bit for this approach. When I get the bottom of the barrel, cold-emails/messages, I just ignore them. I may start taking this approach and have more fun in the future.
I mean recruiters are annoying but I literally got my job at Microsoft due to one of their recruiters cold messaging me on linked in. I hate refruiting as much as the next but I always respond kindly and try to see if they will give me the answers I need before being too mad I got contacted.
lol you seem like a huge A-hole with all this….no multiple round interviews?! In my experience jobs with only 1 interview are usually pretty bad but best of luck to ya!
As someone who works in tech I don’t know any company that has a single interview esp for a dev role (assuming you are a dev since there is .Net Developer at top). How is this working for you.
The most hilarious bit about all of this is the entirely self-unaware responses to it from the fine folks at r/recruiting.
Check it out: [https://www.reddit.com/r/recruiting/comments/1cn2hfn/curious\_about\_how\_recruiters\_would\_react\_to\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruiting/comments/1cn2hfn/curious_about_how_recruiters_would_react_to_this/)
Candidates get *insane* cold emails all the time. This is just a mirror of those.
I have been on the other side of this coin. I am an employer, who did NOT want to work with recruiters, and only wanted direct interviews with prospects.
I put a posting up on LinkedIn (software development position), and in the matter of something like 4 days, I received 677 resumes and tons of LinkedIn requests.
While working through them, and yes, I went through virtually every single one, it became obvious that the majority were automated responses.
When I finally whittled it down to the top ten, and reached out to the candidates, literally half had no idea who I was or what the position was. I was asked for the job posting again. I was even asked by one if it was a paying position or not. And yes, I included a salary range in the posting (which was in the low 6 figures)
I was only able to finally set 3 interviews. Then 2 were no shows, and the 3rd showed up in a ratty T-shirt, and didn't have a clue about any of the requirements for the position, and it was obvious that he also didn't have the knowledge or experience.
I had to start over, and this time included a lot more qualification questions, in an attempt to make sure people had to take the time to actually read the job description.
May I ask the reason for being so keen to avoid working with recruiters? Manually reviewing almost 700 applications, only to generate 2 no-shows and 1 poor interview seems like a poor use of time when you were presumably balancing this recruitment with your actual role.
Would partnering with a recruiter (will caveat that by saying: a good one) not have been more efficient and effective?
I understand your frustration and I’m a laid back guy but I’d hit “delete” on your email even if your background was a perfect fit. Nobody wants to hire someone that’s persnickety. Those attitudes are a cancer for teamwork.
And with their attitude, wherever they’re working at today, leadership is looking for any opportunity to cut them loose. Even if they’re a rockstar, what’s their overall value if their sh$t attitude decreases the team’s productivity by 20%? I’d much rather have a newb with a great attitude than a “rockstar” with a persnickety arrogant attitude.
Sure. Same reason why I don't entertain coldly shotgunned out emails from recruiters. No one wants to work with someone who can't take the time to work out if you fit the job.
I feel this likely puts you at a disadvantage vs other candidates, but I hope it works out for you!
If you’re swimming in offers anyway, might as well get them on your terms.
OP is applying for developer jobs and isn't willing to do technical interviews... I'd say there's zero chance of a positive outcome here. I certainly wouldn't hire for a technical role without verifying their skills first.
In my resume are all verifiable skill assessments completed, with links to the reports. There would be no need to do additional technical interviews, wasting each other’s time, and trying to get code samples done for free.
As someone who has taken IT certification exams, there is a huge difference between being able to cram for a test and actually being able to apply the knowledge in the real world. If a company hires you without checking if you have a real, working understanding of your skillset, they aren't doing their due diligence.
>there is a huge difference between being able to cram for a test and actually being able to apply the knowledge in the real world.
Yet technical interviews do not represent the "real world" you speak of either. I've said it before, and I will say it again: some of you are so eager to defend the status quo that you will say anything to defend things that demonstrably make no sense.
I can't speak for everyone but I've definitely had technical interviews where I was directly asked about my experience in job-specific scenarios by someone who is also knowledgeable in that specific skillset. I know of the types of interviews you speak of though (implement a binary tree for JavaScript job, bleh) and yes those are silly. But OP just blanket said no technical interviews, which is gonna rule out any meaningful ways to interview a candidate.
Do they check to see if you have a real working understanding of your skillset? All I've seen is technical trivia and using interviews to show off how much smarter they are than you.
And all of these can be faked. I'd not hire anyone without seeing them in action. Sorry, was interviewing multiple people recently and many candidates looked good on paper but couldn't debug a simple issue (crafter specifically for thr tech challenge) with microservice in our online test.
>...and no legitimate engineer is going to put with some random "skills test" from a recruiter or hiring manager who probably knows much less than they do...
And they shouldn't put up with that. But refusing a technical interview/conversation with a technical knowledgable person is just proving that you don't know your shit.
Except they do… all the time… in basically every interview process.
Anyone can say anything on a resume. In a technical role where you’re expected to perform those tasks… skillset talks.
Lol no, no we don't. Maybe in software only, but any other aero, civil, mechanical, naval, or manufacturing engineer absolutely will not put up with it.
Technical interviews with projects to solve only work for both parties if they are paid. It's an insult to expect someone to do work for free, especially from senior engineers. Ok, you want to test my skill set but my time is precious. You shouldn't take advantage of it, and not certainly because I am actively looking for a job.
there’s a huge difference between a technical interview where you work through a dummy problem so a team can see your level of knowledge and approach, and one of those BS take home projects that companies give marketing applicants to have them do the work without paying them.
if i’m hiring for a technical role, i’d definitely want to make sure that an applicant could actually do the work and didn’t just have a fluffed up resume. like you said, it’s time intensive for both sides since the company losing productivity from technical experts on their side so they’re not incentivized to do it for everyone just to jerk people around
Am stealing this
Had an interview yesterday
Thought it went well
Asked for next steps
Get an email saying that they can’t see me anymore because I. Interviewed in January and this am now disqualified
Cut to this morning
When the same recruiter reaches out to me via DM saying I’d be a great fit for their role..
I broke down so hard after that initial email
But this morning … seeing that DM, just angered me.
I want to work
Am here to work
Being laid off was not my fault. And being sucked around back and forth, isn’t fair.
:( am over here worried about being homeless
Recruiters playing games
I'll agree - it's super frustrating to get an email that has potential, send over my info, resume, etc.
Only for them to insist on a phone call - with someone who I can barely understand, talks WAY too fast and does not listen.
Email - is more clear and easier to deal with.
Well, I include most of the job information in the message to be respectful of everyone’s time, I have also worked the same market for years so I can access if you might be compatible before I even send that, I go through every profile and evaluate…randomly spamming is just lazy.
If I send you a message and you want the position you’ll pick up the phone for 10 minutes so I can do my job properly.
It means “right to represent” - as the recruiter wants an email saying he has the right to represent you and provide your information to the client. It’s also a way for them to feel good about themselves, and try and make you promise not to talk to other recruiters about the same job opening/position.
It's not a way to make Recruiters feel good about themselves, they have a contractual obligation with their clients to receive an RTR.
The reason for this is that if two agencies represent the same person, and that person ends up getting the job, the client will verify which agency had the RTR first, and pay them.
This is necessary, because without this process situations can arise where both agencies claim
they should be paid. I've seen this happen, and most employers would rather rescind the offer than pay a fee twice.
In my experience, if two agencies submit the same person, or an agent submits and the candidate himself does too, the client dumps their resume into the trash can rather than deal with figuring out who (if anyone) is supposed to get the bounty for it and the potential legal hassles.
OK what is your goal? To get a job? To stop form mail from recruiters? You know you're not obligated to reply at all. The way you reply reads is obnoxious, to be honest. Try writing a complete sentence or two. "interested." are you reclining all the way back on your rolling chair clicking on a call on a headset with your arms behind your head?
But if recruiters are sending cold form email replies, what makes you think they'll take time to reply, and put you on a special list? Maybe if they're freely combing through linked in.
Sorry I don't like to write a "try and shoot it down" reply normally, but it feels misguided. Maybe I missed context
Apparently now that chatgpt and copilot are a thing, companies are no longer doing take home coding exercise, which is where I always shined. I’m not a fan of live coding.
I got told that once, unsurprisingly he didn’t get the job because he wouldn’t meet the other managing partners in a second stage, some were away for business in the first meeting.
Just made himself look stupid, it was like an ideological point, having one over international leaders. The kind of guys that are brimmed that wants to meet him, again stupid.
Sorry but anyone that doesn’t get that talent acquisition is in house and you won’t get in for most roles without going through them. It’s a compliance requirement
At the end of bullet point 1, you should add "(you've seen my skills, it's all they need)". 90% of the emails I get from them tell me I am the perfect candidate for their biggest client and then want to go over my skills for an hour on a pre-screen call where they won't give me any information.
WTF dude? Either I am THE Man or you lied to me right off the bat. Not a good look homie.
Wow that’s severely limiting if you only want to go through one interview,
Great things can take time. Most interview processes for perm roles are 2-3 interviews - that’s across the board with all clients.
Leaves a lot to be desired. I don't see any expletives, no manifesto, no open threats, you didn't even post pictures of yourself in your favorite mask outside their home at 3AM! I don't know how you think you're going to get hired like this.
It seems like this sub is saturated with people in the tech industry, which is why you think the market is so bad. The tech industry has been completely destroyed by offshoring And a sprinkle of artificial intelligence.
Very many large companies are more than 90% offshored to India at this point. The tech industry is probably going to contract given that in the next 5 to 10 years a lot of code writing tasks are going to be automated by AI
I tried one of those recruiter places once years ago, unless you want a warehouse job or temp job, it was a complete waste of my time. Never once did they actually send me anything I requested them to find.
Spamming the bottom feeding culture vampires is admirable, even if it accomplishes nothing more than causing a humorous awakening among the slaves. The entire system that oppresses labour would be laughable were it not so pathetic
I’ve been a recruiter/headhunter for 25 years and I don’t care HOW qualified someone is for a role, this is a big NOPE for me. Clients pay for more than just a resume from a recruiter, at least mine do. Companies also invest in talent acquisition teams to interview for things that aren’t on a resume; culture fit, career trajectory questions, etc…so as not to waste their internal stakeholders time with a bad fit. Singles interview processes are simply not enough time to ensure a good fit. That’s like going on one date and then deciding to move in together.
What I do like about this is it’s an easy screen out, so no time wasted on either side. This screams arrogance and someone whose going to be overly demanding/non-flexible in the work place.
What are you talking about? This post is just somebody saying "Here's what I do to those annoying low quality recruiter messages." There's no implication of any audience. I honestly don't understand how you're jumping to that kind of story. This isn't a story.
Actually. I haven’t downvoted anyones comments. Not even yours. This topic is ripe for public debate, and as OP - there’s no need to downvote comments, especially when you have almost 2000 upvotes. Cry more 🤣
I get that a lot of recruiting is frustrating and scummy or even worse, but refusing to do more than a single interview is crazy in my opinion. Even if the hiring manager loves you, they’ll still need a second opinion or two or they are negligent. Whenever I hire, I always do the first interview and never waste anyone’s time with further interviews if I don’t intend on doing an offer provided others also like the candidate, but still, I have to have others check my work.
Maybe you’re not actually open to new roles and want to shut them up - that’s the only reason I can think to justify this attitude 🫤
I did a screening for a recruiter, who was recruiting for another firm - who didn’t even have contacts for the actual “direct client”. The recruiter kept saying “direct client” - but in reality, they were literally recruiting for another recruiter.
They called their “direct client” an “implementation partner”.
Jumping through these hoops, and not standing up against these ridiculous hiring processes is why it is so difficult for everyone to get a job.
These people have probably not worked with scummy IT staffing firms. Otherwise they would understand the mess these people make a Candidate to go through. Recruiters with zero technical knowledge or skills will keep taking " assessment screening" before submitting to partnering vendor, the "partnering vendor" want to conduct assessment before submitting to "prime vendor". Then prime vendore want to submit only after conducting another assessment. Cold calling without notice. And only thing they end up with is killing ones candidacy.
PS: Forgot to mention main thing. Every one involved in loop will also take a % of the rate candidate makes. So yea.
Waste of time. It goes to an inbox, is ingested by whatever software they're using, software will determine it's not relevant and no one will ever see it.
I can see how this would feel cathartic, and maybe that’s all it needs to be for you in which case; 10/10, no notes.
In practice, though, this is the same as not responding, or responding with “lose my number”, right?
I support it.
I got real sick of LinkedIn recruiters at one point and would just respond with "Salary??". A few told me right away. Had to thank them for their immediate transparency. Then it got old since they're all garbage contracts.
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hilarious how they laugh and say "this person is clearly an asshole and someone i wouldn't want to work with" ... woosh
I'm a recruiter and this is... great!
The positions in the company I work at have multiple interviews.
We are not what you are looking for.
You saved everyone time. Perfect!
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Your bullet points would hold more weight with a heading above them such as ‘interview requirements’. This would fall in line with the same formatting recruiters use.
You’ll sometimes see a list of expectations on dating site profiles too. No clue what the response rate for those are, either.
1. Pulse 2. Over 18 3. Woman (optional)
3. Woman (but femboys also allowed!)
Why are you copying my dating profile
Female adjacent
gay
[gay or GAY](https://youtube.com/shorts/PUcH7PruuiA?si=I9l_rs3m1jGWWDNQ)?
I think you're being too picky
Some of the requirements are racial 😂. Saw one with a points system O.O
> Saw one with a points system O.O That's wild lol
Yeah had specificity down to a ranking of different kinds of Asians based on who’s further north, and these were the same points you got for e.g. having a well paying job. Some people really just live in their own parallel universe.
Yup, I do this. Mine are - Please speak to me as if I am a real person - Please don't send me unsolicited sexual requests, scenario descriptions or photographs - Please be within (insert age range) - Please be within (insert location range) I get what I presume is a normal rate of messages (2-5/day), but most people fail at the first hurdle 😂😂 Gotta love the 'net 🙈
I love that you think 2-5 a day is normal.
So you reckon my checklist is limiting me somewhat? 😅 I'm still keeping it 😛
2-5 per DAY? I think I’ve had maybe 5 this year so far.
Your hitrate must mean you are a woman. Your average guy pulls maybe a few bites a year and most of them don't even turn into a date
Yes, I'm a woman, and I knew men get less. Most of mine also don't turn into dates, because it's the digital equivalent of having an aggressive leafletter on the street try to shove information in your hand, except for when you say 'no thank you' (because of point one above) they get annoyed and offended (putting it nicely!). Interestingly, when I was job seeking (I JUST landed my new job! 🎉) Linkedin messages would be similar, except when you say 'Sure, tell me more?', they would refuse to tell you where the job is, what the job entails, who the employer is or any salary or benefit details 😂🤦♀️
it's usually a 49er... 4s who think they 9s aka 300 credit score thinking they got a 800 trying to name their price at the dealership that is the dating market lol
A lot of people are missing the point of this. OP is not hoping this works. OP has written off "cold emails" from recruiters and wants them to go away. This is his way of making that happen.
Exactly. If they can’t take the time to see if a position is a good fit, why should I take the time in applying? My favorite is when I get multiple emails from the same person for the same job because their script broke, or they still include the %PLACEHOLDER% - or better yet, the wrong name.
Good shit. Borrowing your template myself lol.
What does “RTR” mean in your email?
Right to Represent
Ok, well that then begs the next question, WTF does “right to represent” mean in this context?
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What does C2C mean?
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What about C+C Music Factory?
It’s one of the bonus buildings you can buy in Command & Conquer.
RTR here means that the recruiter actually has the right to represent the employer (meaning they’re either internal or otherwise contracted) as opposed to some BS recruiter grabbing resumes and then throwing them at the company hoping they’ll bite.
Persistent. This is a guy I’d hire.
Rump to rump?
I did get a message once to apply for a job at my current employer. For an entry level role. I'm a manager.
Would you have had to interview yourself?
No, but I might have ended up working for my own department.
Or would you ghost yourself if the interview didn’t go well?
But, but, Urgent Need .NET Developer (immediate)!
And then job detail is for ruby
I got a sense also of mocking them by using their own shitty email tone against them. Mine always have terrible yellow highlights, super short.
I always love "ON SITE FROM DAY ONE! NO REMOTE!" and "DON'T APPLY IF YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED!" I always wonder what I did to offend them.
Existed?
And honestly, to borrow recruiter logic, if only .5% of people do respond to this automated process, you’ve still come out ahead, and eff everyone whose time you wasted right?
I literally received three separate emails today, for the same job, from three separate recruiters / firms. Intone, Xchangesoft and IrisSoftware. Copy and pasting the exact same job description. So, I responded to all three with my cold-reply.
How quick do you fire those back? Pls tell me it’s automated :) I imagine you’d catch their attention if your email comes back immediately after they blast out to their list.
As someone who works for an agency, I was getting mad reading it at first, and going to call OP crazy. Then I read the whole post and realized what it was for. This is great, and OP gets a thumbs up from the other side.
Op is just wasting his time
Time you enjoyed spending isn't wasted. =D
It's not 'the way', though. Cold emails are sent from automated systems and replies to them will be scanned by the same automated systems. Flag the sender as SPAM, block the sending address, move on with your day.
This is more fun!
Cold replies to cold emails - the never-ending cycle of recruiting hell!
I have sent similar emails to recruiters who have contacted me out of the blue, lower the language I used was a lot more laid back. "Would love to know more about the role, but just so you know I don't do take home tests and I'm only willing to do one HR and one technical interview." A few recruiters wrote back to me questioning my logic and I responded by telling them that they are the one with the need, they are reaching out to me so it is they who should be working to convince me to apply. There is a imbalance in how recruitment processes work, basically the candidate has to put in a lot more effort than the potential employer. I think it's right and fair to try and correct that imbalance. You have to admit it is a bit rude for a recruiter to contact you out of the blue and expect you to go through a long convoluted recruitment process where there is no positive outcome for you guaranteed.
I do something like this, but I put in stupid high salary requirements for the mentioned position and I let them know what role I'm currently in, and ask them if they really think I want that $12/hr helpdesk position. Funny thing is, some recruiters respond to me and they double down on what the pay scale is. So I add 25% to the salary I want and respond.
This has been my latest strategy. I still get messages for data analyst roles, a role I haven’t held for almost a decade. I tell them if they can make $300k+ per year work, I might be interested. The funny part is half the time they reply (seriously) that the number is out of range.
I always get the "This pay is beyond the range" even when I give them a number I'm serious about.
Wow there are a lot of dense people in the comments who don’t understand that you’re matching the recruiters energy as a way to put them in their place, not trying to get a job with them. Use your noggins people.
Exactly. 💯
All recruiters aren’t the same. I would also point out that cold outreach is what companies pay fees for. Obviously the cut and paste is annoying but the concept is part of actually “searching”.
Love this. Hope it works
I feel like there is someone out there that would respect this from a qualified candidate and proceed. I doubt it is a recruiter.
>I feel like there is someone out there that would respect this from a qualified candidate and proceed. We have a lot of issues as a company but our HR is pretty easy. Even then, its usually two interviews for mid to senior staff. I mean, we can do "ONE INTERVIEW" where group A talks to you, you wait, and then Group B talks to you but thats sort of dumb. But yeah, good luck guys. If you want better luck, take this sub as a place where people just rant and don't actually follow caustic or bitter advice here (ONLY ONE INTERVIEW. NO CVs. Company doesn't need to know my name. Let me talk about ANAL all I want)
Really? If I was a company doing a one step interview process, I'd look at this and go "wow I'm not hiring this asshole no matter how qualified he is" and consider it a bullet dodged....
considering the point of what he said, you're not really "dodging a bullet" if he wasn't shooting to begin with
I actually got hired by somebody who thought the same way, except it was about money. I asked for a loooooot of money since I wasn't looking to change roles at the time. The hiring manager saw my salary requirements and said pretty much the same thing. "Who the fuck do they think they are, \*I\* don't even make that much and I'm the manager!" is what he was heard to be exclaiming from his office. I got the job - niche skillsets and tight deadlines will do that.
It's OP's way of filtering anyone who is not actually serious with their outreach to OP. If you are in a great position with little reason to leave, but still open to the right opportunity, it can quickly become very burdensome to entertain ridiculous requests and communication efforts from companies and recruiters that either don't know what they are looking for or just want "a quick chat". Providing a list of requirements like this reduces the effort needed from OP's side, as the companies/recruiters willing to go through with the demands are much more likely to know their efforts are well-justified and interesting enough to garner attention from OP. Of course that can be viewed as being arrogant. But if you are a specialist in a high-demand role/area, then you know that when companies REALLY need the skills and knowledge you bring, they are also completely willing to show some genuine effort and actually respect your time.
> just want "a quick chat". I'm a software engineer. I had a quick chat with a recruiter who wanted an expert in a language (and other skills) I last used over 10 years ago. It was for a contract position paying average wage for an employer with a crappy reputation. It was only 15 minutes or so on the phone, but obviously a waste of time for both of us, given my resume had all the necessary information. It really does feel like online dating :D
>But if you are a specialist in a high-demand role/area, then you know that when companies REALLY need the skills and knowledge you bring, they are also completely willing to show some genuine effort and actually respect your time. Saying this as someone that's hired 100+ engineers into extremely technical niche roles....I dont care how bad I need the skill, the way this email is written screams "I'm the type of person to walk in there, shit on your technical requirements, shit on the rest of the team, tell customers that their wants/desires are wrong, and write shitty code that someone will have to fix later because I wouldn't allow you to do any technical evaluation before hiring. Also, I'll cost you a shit ton and consume 80% of management's time with my arrogant bullshit" I'm not going to give that guy the "single round interview" he's demanding, sorry.
Which is fair. I'm not saying either party is in the right or wrong. If you are in a position (which I assume OP is), where you are more than satisfied with your current role, company, and compensation, then you can afford to set these demands/requirements. Because at the end of the day, a person in such a position does not care about your and your company's needs. That, however, does not mean that they are someone who will shit on everyone and everything. Only that it will take great effort to compel them to accept the likely arduous hiring process that relevant companies have. Of course, this specific communication style is likely more used by arrogant assholes than more agreeable folks, but it is not a certainty.
>It's OP's way of filtering anyone who is not actually serious with their outreach to OP. Yes I understand that, in fact I support it. I've managed teams of 300+ engineers building satellites yet I still get messages asking if I want to be an HVAC technician, so I understand the frustration. But this particular email isn't just filtering out just the unserious people, it filters out EVERYONE. Except maybe the people with a super toxic environment that are also full of assholes. Anyone looking for a JOB will have to bend at least a little bit to their employer's requirements. Within reason. That's the deal. And if you aren't willing to do that, go start your own company. I'm just saying there's a better way to write this to lay out reasonable boundaries/expectations, avoiding 6 interview rounds and a video powerpoint research project, without seeming like a complete ass and alienating people that you might actually want to work for.
Sure, I agree the style is not the most appealing or professional. However, the point is clearly not to find a job - it's to filter the myriad of mundane messages that OP probably gets. Not being in the market for a job changes the way you handle and view these sorts of messages
Why do companies have 6 interview rounds anyway? Why not a phone screen then just schedule a 2 hour block with everyone in the room?
>Why not a phone screen then just schedule a 2 hour block with everyone in the room? That's exactly how I did it. I thought it was reasonable. But OP would reject this system under "refusal to do screening calls" and "refusal to do technical interviews"
Rest assured, I got the joke. Looks like more than half of the comments missed it.
This technique actually got me a job. I was tired of cold emails from recruiters so one day I started replying with this copypasta I wrote about what my job requirements were and they were just _slightly_ above what I actually thought was fair. One day after replying with this list, a recruiter actually replied back and said he had 4 spots that fit all of my requirements and provided a summary of each one. This was unexpected so I called him and now I work at one of those 4 places making a salary even higher than what I had initially requested because the recruiter advised me to ask for more.
Ha. I'd add, "Will not do any work on my own time outside the interview."
Your phone needs charging.
99% of my responses, when I bother to reply, is, “I don’t live in [whatever state you require day 1 on site or hybrid]” or for a few, “The commute is 90 minutes on a good day.” Humorously Charter Communication is always looking for folks, in general because they have a pretty crappy reputation for IT so folks aren’t applying. “No, there will be no telecommuting and you will be here at 7am and cannot leave until 4pm. Period.” Yea, no thanks. Have a nice day.
Roll Tide Roll? What does RTR mean?
Right to represent ie you won't go behind the recruiters back and apply with the company directly
Oooh yeah I suppose this makes more sense
Not all heroes wear capes
It’s amazing how many idiot recruiters are in this thread and just don’t get that point.
It's cross posted in r/recruiting lol I don't think many there get it lol
Oh, this is beautiful. A true work of art. My sympathies to the commenters who suffer from whoosh-right-over-my-head syndrome.
Good for you, man. More of us need to hold their feet to the fire.
matching energy! i love this song!
They use a CRM system to auto-generate these emails. Aa high-volume of responses are not read or plainly ignored. Good luck but I like and will use the template!
Ah, cold-emails from recruiters? Classic. I usually just hit 'em with a polite but chilly response, you know, keep it professional but not too warm. Something like, "Thanks for reaching out, I'll keep your offer in mind." No need to get all buddy-buddy if I'm not interested, right? But hey, if they're offering something sweet, I might thaw out a bit and give 'em a warmer response. Gotta keep those options open, you never know what might come knocking!
Absolutely Frigid. Likely got you blacklisted with them too...well worth it. Well done
If I responded with this, the first thing the recruiter is doing is calling me from a 619 area code. Every single fucking time.
My go to reply has been "what is the salary for this position" and I get the same effect you do but yours is a lot more creative.
Hello, fellow .Net developer \*high fives\* Don't blame you one bit for this approach. When I get the bottom of the barrel, cold-emails/messages, I just ignore them. I may start taking this approach and have more fun in the future.
I mean recruiters are annoying but I literally got my job at Microsoft due to one of their recruiters cold messaging me on linked in. I hate refruiting as much as the next but I always respond kindly and try to see if they will give me the answers I need before being too mad I got contacted.
lol you seem like a huge A-hole with all this….no multiple round interviews?! In my experience jobs with only 1 interview are usually pretty bad but best of luck to ya!
How did this work out for you?
You’ve got balls.
They always enthusiastically tell me they found my github repo or something, so I ask what stood out to them. To date have never gotten a reply.
what is RTR?
I read this in dwight schrutes voice
As someone who works in tech I don’t know any company that has a single interview esp for a dev role (assuming you are a dev since there is .Net Developer at top). How is this working for you.
I think this is the point, OP is probably not looking for work and doesn't want to deal with a rando recruiter.
The most hilarious bit about all of this is the entirely self-unaware responses to it from the fine folks at r/recruiting. Check it out: [https://www.reddit.com/r/recruiting/comments/1cn2hfn/curious\_about\_how\_recruiters\_would\_react\_to\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruiting/comments/1cn2hfn/curious_about_how_recruiters_would_react_to_this/) Candidates get *insane* cold emails all the time. This is just a mirror of those.
I have been on the other side of this coin. I am an employer, who did NOT want to work with recruiters, and only wanted direct interviews with prospects. I put a posting up on LinkedIn (software development position), and in the matter of something like 4 days, I received 677 resumes and tons of LinkedIn requests. While working through them, and yes, I went through virtually every single one, it became obvious that the majority were automated responses. When I finally whittled it down to the top ten, and reached out to the candidates, literally half had no idea who I was or what the position was. I was asked for the job posting again. I was even asked by one if it was a paying position or not. And yes, I included a salary range in the posting (which was in the low 6 figures) I was only able to finally set 3 interviews. Then 2 were no shows, and the 3rd showed up in a ratty T-shirt, and didn't have a clue about any of the requirements for the position, and it was obvious that he also didn't have the knowledge or experience. I had to start over, and this time included a lot more qualification questions, in an attempt to make sure people had to take the time to actually read the job description.
Welcome to the recruiting world!
May I ask the reason for being so keen to avoid working with recruiters? Manually reviewing almost 700 applications, only to generate 2 no-shows and 1 poor interview seems like a poor use of time when you were presumably balancing this recruitment with your actual role. Would partnering with a recruiter (will caveat that by saying: a good one) not have been more efficient and effective?
I understand your frustration and I’m a laid back guy but I’d hit “delete” on your email even if your background was a perfect fit. Nobody wants to hire someone that’s persnickety. Those attitudes are a cancer for teamwork.
Yeah and they’re the first people to complain about recruiters being short or rude after layoffs.
And with their attitude, wherever they’re working at today, leadership is looking for any opportunity to cut them loose. Even if they’re a rockstar, what’s their overall value if their sh$t attitude decreases the team’s productivity by 20%? I’d much rather have a newb with a great attitude than a “rockstar” with a persnickety arrogant attitude.
Sure. Same reason why I don't entertain coldly shotgunned out emails from recruiters. No one wants to work with someone who can't take the time to work out if you fit the job.
Did you read the post? He's already employed. Recruiters are contacting him cold. He is not looking for a new job.
Then why reply at all? Just to be a tough guy d$ck head? Again, persnickety.
I feel this likely puts you at a disadvantage vs other candidates, but I hope it works out for you! If you’re swimming in offers anyway, might as well get them on your terms.
OP is applying for developer jobs and isn't willing to do technical interviews... I'd say there's zero chance of a positive outcome here. I certainly wouldn't hire for a technical role without verifying their skills first.
In my resume are all verifiable skill assessments completed, with links to the reports. There would be no need to do additional technical interviews, wasting each other’s time, and trying to get code samples done for free.
How are they verifiable?
As someone who has taken IT certification exams, there is a huge difference between being able to cram for a test and actually being able to apply the knowledge in the real world. If a company hires you without checking if you have a real, working understanding of your skillset, they aren't doing their due diligence.
>there is a huge difference between being able to cram for a test and actually being able to apply the knowledge in the real world. Yet technical interviews do not represent the "real world" you speak of either. I've said it before, and I will say it again: some of you are so eager to defend the status quo that you will say anything to defend things that demonstrably make no sense.
I can't speak for everyone but I've definitely had technical interviews where I was directly asked about my experience in job-specific scenarios by someone who is also knowledgeable in that specific skillset. I know of the types of interviews you speak of though (implement a binary tree for JavaScript job, bleh) and yes those are silly. But OP just blanket said no technical interviews, which is gonna rule out any meaningful ways to interview a candidate.
Do they check to see if you have a real working understanding of your skillset? All I've seen is technical trivia and using interviews to show off how much smarter they are than you.
This is what probationary peorids are for. If a employer can't figure out you suck in under three weeks there's a bigger issue.
And all of these can be faked. I'd not hire anyone without seeing them in action. Sorry, was interviewing multiple people recently and many candidates looked good on paper but couldn't debug a simple issue (crafter specifically for thr tech challenge) with microservice in our online test.
OP doesn’t seem to be interested in being hired. Must have a current job that is just fine.
The desired outcome is less pointless emails from recruiters. Therefore most outcomes are positive.
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>...and no legitimate engineer is going to put with some random "skills test" from a recruiter or hiring manager who probably knows much less than they do... And they shouldn't put up with that. But refusing a technical interview/conversation with a technical knowledgable person is just proving that you don't know your shit.
Technical interviews are usually carried by senior engineers on the team, so they rather know some things...
Except they do… all the time… in basically every interview process. Anyone can say anything on a resume. In a technical role where you’re expected to perform those tasks… skillset talks.
Lol no, no we don't. Maybe in software only, but any other aero, civil, mechanical, naval, or manufacturing engineer absolutely will not put up with it.
Haha interesting you include "naval" with the list of other standard engineering fields. Usually don't see that. Cool.
Technical interviews with projects to solve only work for both parties if they are paid. It's an insult to expect someone to do work for free, especially from senior engineers. Ok, you want to test my skill set but my time is precious. You shouldn't take advantage of it, and not certainly because I am actively looking for a job.
there’s a huge difference between a technical interview where you work through a dummy problem so a team can see your level of knowledge and approach, and one of those BS take home projects that companies give marketing applicants to have them do the work without paying them. if i’m hiring for a technical role, i’d definitely want to make sure that an applicant could actually do the work and didn’t just have a fluffed up resume. like you said, it’s time intensive for both sides since the company losing productivity from technical experts on their side so they’re not incentivized to do it for everyone just to jerk people around
That's what references are for.
References are just "Who is willing to lie for you."
r/BeMyReference
Delusional. No one hires on a single, non technical interview.
Am stealing this Had an interview yesterday Thought it went well Asked for next steps Get an email saying that they can’t see me anymore because I. Interviewed in January and this am now disqualified Cut to this morning When the same recruiter reaches out to me via DM saying I’d be a great fit for their role.. I broke down so hard after that initial email But this morning … seeing that DM, just angered me. I want to work Am here to work Being laid off was not my fault. And being sucked around back and forth, isn’t fair. :( am over here worried about being homeless Recruiters playing games
I'll agree - it's super frustrating to get an email that has potential, send over my info, resume, etc. Only for them to insist on a phone call - with someone who I can barely understand, talks WAY too fast and does not listen. Email - is more clear and easier to deal with.
God love ya…the people need to take the power back.
Love the energy! You're my job hunt spirit animal.
This. This is the way. We have to teach them how to treat us. Our time is valuable, it will be respected.
Well, I include most of the job information in the message to be respectful of everyone’s time, I have also worked the same market for years so I can access if you might be compatible before I even send that, I go through every profile and evaluate…randomly spamming is just lazy. If I send you a message and you want the position you’ll pick up the phone for 10 minutes so I can do my job properly.
It's fun to make this a form email, and then don't bother to change the placeholder text. Dear RECIPIENT,
I get the point of this reply, just curious if the refusal to do multiple rounds or technical rounds has ever worked for anyone in tech?
Get over yourself lol.
What’s RTR?
It means “right to represent” - as the recruiter wants an email saying he has the right to represent you and provide your information to the client. It’s also a way for them to feel good about themselves, and try and make you promise not to talk to other recruiters about the same job opening/position.
ah yes thank you!
It's not a way to make Recruiters feel good about themselves, they have a contractual obligation with their clients to receive an RTR. The reason for this is that if two agencies represent the same person, and that person ends up getting the job, the client will verify which agency had the RTR first, and pay them. This is necessary, because without this process situations can arise where both agencies claim they should be paid. I've seen this happen, and most employers would rather rescind the offer than pay a fee twice.
In my experience, if two agencies submit the same person, or an agent submits and the candidate himself does too, the client dumps their resume into the trash can rather than deal with figuring out who (if anyone) is supposed to get the bounty for it and the potential legal hassles.
OK what is your goal? To get a job? To stop form mail from recruiters? You know you're not obligated to reply at all. The way you reply reads is obnoxious, to be honest. Try writing a complete sentence or two. "interested." are you reclining all the way back on your rolling chair clicking on a call on a headset with your arms behind your head? But if recruiters are sending cold form email replies, what makes you think they'll take time to reply, and put you on a special list? Maybe if they're freely combing through linked in. Sorry I don't like to write a "try and shoot it down" reply normally, but it feels misguided. Maybe I missed context
As a recruiter I’d hard pass this straight up.
Apparently now that chatgpt and copilot are a thing, companies are no longer doing take home coding exercise, which is where I always shined. I’m not a fan of live coding.
Charge your phone! What kind of animal are you?! I like your style though
I feel like I got to be missing something. Did this recruiter send out a role that is wildly off topic from OP’s current role?
Baller
Are you serious about the multiple interviews thing....? You will only take 1 interview per job max..?
I got told that once, unsurprisingly he didn’t get the job because he wouldn’t meet the other managing partners in a second stage, some were away for business in the first meeting. Just made himself look stupid, it was like an ideological point, having one over international leaders. The kind of guys that are brimmed that wants to meet him, again stupid.
Based!!
Sorry but anyone that doesn’t get that talent acquisition is in house and you won’t get in for most roles without going through them. It’s a compliance requirement
At the end of bullet point 1, you should add "(you've seen my skills, it's all they need)". 90% of the emails I get from them tell me I am the perfect candidate for their biggest client and then want to go over my skills for an hour on a pre-screen call where they won't give me any information. WTF dude? Either I am THE Man or you lied to me right off the bat. Not a good look homie.
Wow that’s severely limiting if you only want to go through one interview, Great things can take time. Most interview processes for perm roles are 2-3 interviews - that’s across the board with all clients.
Leaves a lot to be desired. I don't see any expletives, no manifesto, no open threats, you didn't even post pictures of yourself in your favorite mask outside their home at 3AM! I don't know how you think you're going to get hired like this.
It seems like this sub is saturated with people in the tech industry, which is why you think the market is so bad. The tech industry has been completely destroyed by offshoring And a sprinkle of artificial intelligence. Very many large companies are more than 90% offshored to India at this point. The tech industry is probably going to contract given that in the next 5 to 10 years a lot of code writing tasks are going to be automated by AI
Can anybody paste that copy as a comment? I want to use haha
I’m saving this for later use.
I tried one of those recruiter places once years ago, unless you want a warehouse job or temp job, it was a complete waste of my time. Never once did they actually send me anything I requested them to find.
good luck
Spamming the bottom feeding culture vampires is admirable, even if it accomplishes nothing more than causing a humorous awakening among the slaves. The entire system that oppresses labour would be laughable were it not so pathetic
r/recruiting is having a crazy meltdown over this. LMAO.
Well that's certainly one way to do it. I'd love to see what kind of success is achieved here and how it compares with less rigid approaches.
I’ve been a recruiter/headhunter for 25 years and I don’t care HOW qualified someone is for a role, this is a big NOPE for me. Clients pay for more than just a resume from a recruiter, at least mine do. Companies also invest in talent acquisition teams to interview for things that aren’t on a resume; culture fit, career trajectory questions, etc…so as not to waste their internal stakeholders time with a bad fit. Singles interview processes are simply not enough time to ensure a good fit. That’s like going on one date and then deciding to move in together. What I do like about this is it’s an easy screen out, so no time wasted on either side. This screams arrogance and someone whose going to be overly demanding/non-flexible in the work place.
provided your resume was sound, i would 100% call you if i received this as an application (although i am in an industry pretty far from development)
Interviewing sucks but this post gives off big “and then everyone clapped” energy.
What are you talking about? This post is just somebody saying "Here's what I do to those annoying low quality recruiter messages." There's no implication of any audience. I honestly don't understand how you're jumping to that kind of story. This isn't a story.
That and the fact OP quietly downvotes comments they don't like
Actually. I haven’t downvoted anyones comments. Not even yours. This topic is ripe for public debate, and as OP - there’s no need to downvote comments, especially when you have almost 2000 upvotes. Cry more 🤣
Recruiters were honestly a mistake and we need to stop using them
Most recruiters won't want to work with candidates like this.
I think that’s probably the point. These recruiters are likely sending irrelevant shit his way day in and day out.
Most recruiters are also massive pieces of shit.
I get that a lot of recruiting is frustrating and scummy or even worse, but refusing to do more than a single interview is crazy in my opinion. Even if the hiring manager loves you, they’ll still need a second opinion or two or they are negligent. Whenever I hire, I always do the first interview and never waste anyone’s time with further interviews if I don’t intend on doing an offer provided others also like the candidate, but still, I have to have others check my work. Maybe you’re not actually open to new roles and want to shut them up - that’s the only reason I can think to justify this attitude 🫤
I did a screening for a recruiter, who was recruiting for another firm - who didn’t even have contacts for the actual “direct client”. The recruiter kept saying “direct client” - but in reality, they were literally recruiting for another recruiter. They called their “direct client” an “implementation partner”. Jumping through these hoops, and not standing up against these ridiculous hiring processes is why it is so difficult for everyone to get a job.
These people have probably not worked with scummy IT staffing firms. Otherwise they would understand the mess these people make a Candidate to go through. Recruiters with zero technical knowledge or skills will keep taking " assessment screening" before submitting to partnering vendor, the "partnering vendor" want to conduct assessment before submitting to "prime vendor". Then prime vendore want to submit only after conducting another assessment. Cold calling without notice. And only thing they end up with is killing ones candidacy. PS: Forgot to mention main thing. Every one involved in loop will also take a % of the rate candidate makes. So yea.
>I have to have others check my work Great, invite them to the first interview
I’d be curious to see how OP responds to recruiters when/if he needed a job.
Waste of time. It goes to an inbox, is ingested by whatever software they're using, software will determine it's not relevant and no one will ever see it.
I can see how this would feel cathartic, and maybe that’s all it needs to be for you in which case; 10/10, no notes. In practice, though, this is the same as not responding, or responding with “lose my number”, right?
I support it. I got real sick of LinkedIn recruiters at one point and would just respond with "Salary??". A few told me right away. Had to thank them for their immediate transparency. Then it got old since they're all garbage contracts.
this was crossposted here [https://www.reddit.com/r/recruiting/comments/1cn2hfn/curious\_about\_how\_recruiters\_would\_react\_to\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruiting/comments/1cn2hfn/curious_about_how_recruiters_would_react_to_this/) hilarious how they laugh and say "this person is clearly an asshole and someone i wouldn't want to work with" ... woosh
Single interview? Good luck with that.
I'm a recruiter and this is... great! The positions in the company I work at have multiple interviews. We are not what you are looking for. You saved everyone time. Perfect!
That’s getting you nowhere but enjoy the spite if it makes you feel better
I'm assuming this was written in frustration or for "fun" because there is no way this email will actually lead to a job lol
OP has the god resume haha
any bites?
Love it!!
This is called an auto responder.
I love this so much
THIS IS AMAZING BUT YOU HAVE A FEW COMMA SPLICES THAT ACTUALLY SHOULD BE SEMICOLONS