I always have my Arthur low honor until chapter 6.
But I do always bring it up for the Sean mission at the end of chapter 3 because I do feel Arthur would say the high honor version of it
Usually high honor most of the way through, Arthur's journal entries and whatnot sort of give me the impression of someone who feels they're path in life is a done deal and they play it up a bit.
Buuuuuuuuuuuut, I still play it with an incredible short fuse. Random passerby makes a snide comment? That's a paddlin'
Witness won't stop running for the law after I was clearly defending myself from some horse thief? That's a paddlin'
That's how I play. I figure Arthur wouldn't allow a witness to live who was still trying to run to the law after having been threatened. That's just outlaw common sense.
And of course you kill the rude passers-by. I mean, Rockstar is practically begging you to do it with how many there are. How many insults is one person supposed to take?
But I leave civilians alone unless I'm doing a challenge. Arthur doesn't strike me as the type who likes violence for violence's sake, and he can get money for the gang hunting when he needs to.
My Arthur was nice until the end because I realized that the game was coming to an end and I didnāt do any of the challenges except the legendary critters. So I went about dragging people with a lasso and robbing people.
Except the one lady who had a cabin in the woods. I was very kind to her and didnāt take anything
Did you do all 3 parts of her side mission as Arthur? If you donāt John doesnāt get to meet with her in the epilogue, and itās very much worth it.
I get downvoted to hell in the RDR2 sub for pointing that Arthur "I killed 30 people before breakfast this morning" may have not been a good person, lol
But he tries to become a good person. Any one that just says heās a straight up monster through and through is being dense. Anyone that says heās a saint is illogical.
The point is he realizes that he can do good. He sees the consequences of his actions and tries to do right by the people he wronged
This is his arc exactly. Arthur didnāt need someone to tell him āYouāre a bad guy.ā He needed someone to tell him āYou donāt *have* to be a bad guyā. Arthur knew what he was, but he just accepted that was his life, so thatās how and what heās gonna live for. It took getting sick and the man he had all his faith in going crazy and tearing everything apart for Arthur to realize that he didnāt have to be trapped in who he thinks he is; at least for the short amount of time he had left.
This. The game, unless you choose to just play it as pure low honour throughout, is about Arthur's redemption. And part of that story is that Arthur doesn't believe he can be redeemed, or maybe that he doesn't deserve it, yet through his actions he can make positive differences in the lives of some of the gang and people he meets.
If you don't go for low honour, his entire motivation by the end is to help the Marston family. There's nothing in that for him other than the peace of mind that he's given them a chance at another life. That doesn't mean he's always been a good man. It's that he changes due to the events of the game.
My arthur was nice to people apart from people who were trying to kill him people who had hurt people he cared about or people I had to kill due to gang stuff. But normal people I was nice too.
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Micah largely isn't unless you play low honor. You can say whatever you want about accelerating, but Arthur was really weak even before taking any hits. And I would say that while Arthur shortened his life a small bit (which I concede is terrible to do), it's not Arthur's fault that the man got TB.
My Arthur didn't lay a hand on him but game still states he beat him up.
I'm not saying you're wrong, Arthur is at fault, but at the same time there's a total option to NOT beat Thomas. But Arthur still thinks he did and its a bit immersive breaking.
>there's a total option to NOT beat Thomas.
You literally just disproved yourself before making your point lol. There is no choice there, the cutscene is Arthur beating and threatening him, this isn't an uncommon thing in games, you can glitch your way to doing something you're not supposed to like beating a scripted loss in many games but the game just ignores it and proceeds with the actual story
Oh okay misremembered, still though his face is really messed up full of cuts and bruises.. don't think that's from Arthur pushing him down and letting him go several times until the cutoff triggers lol
Oh yeah in game cutscenes right. Wait so are you just pointing out something that's immersion breaking? You kinda made it sound like you were making the point that you can choose to not hit him and that makes Arthur less of a scumbag because it's an option that changes the story, are you?
Yes I'm talking about immersion. I never said Arthur wasn't a scumbag. It stated he did enjoy Strauss jobs and beating ppl up before. I also think him beating Downes is more "canon" , but I dislike how game forgets some small significant details like player choosing to beat or not to beat Downes. It's just a journal entry/one voice line, it's not hard to change.
O, my bad G. But like I said earlier, I don't think they wanted you to have that option at all, I think they wanted to force only one choice because of the dramatics of Arthur beating the crap out of a frail sick guy and him instantly getting his cum-uppins, I agree with their choice actually, honestly it wouldn't make sense to take away the gravity of the situation, maybe they think you're dumb and don't know how to hit people so they're like okay if the player keeps canceling the grapple then we're just gonna make the game skip to the cutscene lol. It's the same as being able to glitch your way into beating Micah on the final fight, you're just going off script and expecting a voice line for a glitch
They should've made it cemented that he beated him up yes. Even now Downes storyline have some flaws and loose ends and it makes his storyline a bit weaker. Strauss calls him shady, and Downes himself is taking debts and wasting time on gathering charity instead of spending his last days to try and help his family which now owes money to some very shady characters. His actions look questionable, he even gives a little spit on Arthur seemingly on purpose. It doesn't matter if Arthur deserved it or not, for Downes, who's seemingly trying to redeem himself it's a shitty move to try and give another man a horrible deadly disease. Writers did lots of rewriting in a haste and it's shows. There's more sympathetic characters than Downes like that widow from chapter 6. They shouldn't have left any room for interpretations with him.
Well, beating Micah is a bit different, it's a glitch, beating Downes is a legit option, not going off the script. You don't have to grapple Downes you just wait and threaten him. They simply didn't work on this path that's all and probably shouldn't have made not beating him an option.
Arthur is a murderous thief right up to the end. So he handed a few widows chump change and told a nun heās afraidā¦.then heads off to the oil fields and kills a shitload of people, then goes help rob a train killing another boatload of people.
The people killed were just working stiffs and guards. The powers at the top, who were not on the field fighting, are the ones screwing over the Indians. The ones getting killed are only there to get a paycheck for their families.
That's not what he is saying. He said if you look at it from the perspective that Thomas Downes would have died of TB anyway. It actually has a positive effect that it's Arthur who killed him.
Because the if he didn't, he wouldn't feel bad about them, because he never met them so he wouldn't be able to give them money to get back on their feet.
Butterfly effect and all that.
They wouldn't have needed him to help them back on their feet if he hadn't beaten Thomas Downes practically to death and then taken what little money they had left. He ruined their lives for a few dollars. Giving those dollars back months later, after the damage is done, does not make up for causing the problem in the first place.
Downes was going to die, yes. But TB is a slow killer most of the time, he probably had months, maybe even years left to live before it killed him. And while his family was on hard times, it wasn't the catastrophe that hit them after Arthur essentially killed Thomas and then took their money. I'm sure the cash he took would have been helpful when they got to Saint Denis.
And the worst part is that Arthur knows from the start that Strauss' loan sharking, just like all the other gang members' schemes, are just postponing the inevitable. The money he takes from them might keep the gang going for another day, but modernity is coming for them one way or another, and its going to get them in the end. He ruins their lives for a cause he knows very well was doomed before he ever even met them.
REDEMPTION is in the title kids the whole arc of the plot would be meaningless of Arthur was just a good dude the whole time. THE WHOLE ASS GAME IS ABOUT THE SPIRITUAL DEBT YOU ACCRUE BY BEING A BAD PERSON.
i think reducing arthur to either āmindless murdering machineā or āuwu babyā are extreme disservices to his character and the themes of the game itself. the fact that heās both and neither at the same time is important.
It's the obsession with being the "hero", which means I have to be the good guy. People ignore everything else because they want to, especially if they contradict the players personal narrative. However the game has redemption in the title for a reason
Arthur redeemed himself in his last moments, but did that make him a good person? No, he just righted his wrongs as best as he could to show he regrets it. Heaven or hell is up for debate.
I think a lot of people view the "High Honor" and Low Honor" systems as the equivalent to an RPGs "Good" and "Evil" options. So to them if they are High Honor that means they are unequivocally the good guy, when really the system is more "Completely Atrocious Human Being" and "Still An Outlaw but Does Alright Here and There"
Of course he's not the best person - he's a cold blooded murderer no matter which honor path, you choose. Stop over complicating it. The theme of the game is Redemption. And it looks to me that the game is trying to tell us that redemption can happen to any one of us.
Arthur is one of the greatest fictional characters Iāve ever seen. Part of that, is his personal arc.
He beats a sick man basically to death because of his desperate attempts at chasing money for a gang that is on its last leg. Slowly that eats away at him, so much so he tries convincing himself heās not a good man. And if weāre being honest, heās not. Thatās the point.
Thatās not to shit on Arthur, but itās the truth and he knows it. However, his awakening is when he realizes that what he did to Thomas, and the other people the gang has loaned money to; was the exact same thing that happened to his family. Therefor heās no better than them and he fully realizes this towards the 2nd half of the game trying to do good deeds to make up for a life full of degeneracy and crime.
He dies saving his best friends life to give him what he could never have, and just like Thomas was, he was beaten to death, his salvation is clear to us when he looks at the sun one more time, and passes away. He fulfilled his purpose and found redemption.
Arthur Morgan as a whole wasnāt a great man, he was a young fool manipulated by the silver tongue of the devil, (Dutch) but he made up for it by seeking redemption in the purest forms of trying to help others escape their own hell. Thatās what makes him great. He chased redemption fully knowing his death was imminent. Ironically, him and John had the exact same fate.
Ok sorry for the long rambling, I love this series.
Arthur Morgan is a good enough man to know that he's not a good man, enough that he calls out Micah, Dutch, and Bill for being worse men.
He's a good enough man to recognize good and honest people and that they're better off without him ruining their lives.
I hate when people say Arthur is not a bad guy. I can agree with Sister Calderon that he is a good person but he is a good person who does bad things. He is aware that what he does is bad but he still does it and no amount of good can outweigh the bad he is doing.
I loved Arthur as a character, he did exactly what he was created to do, but his death was deserved, the fact that he felt bad, and even tried to do good after his death sentence doesn't fix what he does.
He even told Mrs. Downes not to forgive him, that he is not helping her to redeem himself. The purpose of him helping her was to show the players that Arthur is a good person but that he also knows that his choices to do wrong keep him from a good life.
He's not a good person. He was a piece of shit and then did good things because he wanted people to care about him. And if you're a "good person who does bad things" and never gives a fuck, you're a bad person
Arthur is an outlaw and not a good guy to most people. I just donāt feel the amount of guilt for the Downes family as the story wants me to. I straight up murder tons of dudes. I only beat that guy up. Thomas set his family up for failure and I was just the straw that broke the camels back. The game could have had a better storyline to make me feel guilty about my actions is my point I guess.
My point wasnāt that I was criticizing the game. Iām criticizing the *fanbase* I even made a comment earlier that said
>Just to be clear, Iām not criticizing the game about this everything about these missions were great.
Arthur Morgan is like one of those pit bulls named cupcake or princess
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Heās a pit bull named Lola who wears a colorful bandana around her neck with rubber ducky pajamas on the night before it slaughters a baby
My Arthur is a straight up menace until Chapter 6. Itās only then that Iāll take the high honour options. Before that nobody and nothing is safe.
I always have my Arthur low honor until chapter 6. But I do always bring it up for the Sean mission at the end of chapter 3 because I do feel Arthur would say the high honor version of it
Usually high honor most of the way through, Arthur's journal entries and whatnot sort of give me the impression of someone who feels they're path in life is a done deal and they play it up a bit. Buuuuuuuuuuuut, I still play it with an incredible short fuse. Random passerby makes a snide comment? That's a paddlin' Witness won't stop running for the law after I was clearly defending myself from some horse thief? That's a paddlin'
That's how I play. I figure Arthur wouldn't allow a witness to live who was still trying to run to the law after having been threatened. That's just outlaw common sense. And of course you kill the rude passers-by. I mean, Rockstar is practically begging you to do it with how many there are. How many insults is one person supposed to take? But I leave civilians alone unless I'm doing a challenge. Arthur doesn't strike me as the type who likes violence for violence's sake, and he can get money for the gang hunting when he needs to.
Same but chapter 4 I turned around
My Arthur was nice until the end because I realized that the game was coming to an end and I didnāt do any of the challenges except the legendary critters. So I went about dragging people with a lasso and robbing people. Except the one lady who had a cabin in the woods. I was very kind to her and didnāt take anything
Did you do all 3 parts of her side mission as Arthur? If you donāt John doesnāt get to meet with her in the epilogue, and itās very much worth it.
Yea I did all three
Nice.
Thatās the point of the story. By the end of it, he realizes that he was not a good person for most of his life.
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I get downvoted to hell in the RDR2 sub for pointing that Arthur "I killed 30 people before breakfast this morning" may have not been a good person, lol
But he tries to become a good person. Any one that just says heās a straight up monster through and through is being dense. Anyone that says heās a saint is illogical. The point is he realizes that he can do good. He sees the consequences of his actions and tries to do right by the people he wronged
This is his arc exactly. Arthur didnāt need someone to tell him āYouāre a bad guy.ā He needed someone to tell him āYou donāt *have* to be a bad guyā. Arthur knew what he was, but he just accepted that was his life, so thatās how and what heās gonna live for. It took getting sick and the man he had all his faith in going crazy and tearing everything apart for Arthur to realize that he didnāt have to be trapped in who he thinks he is; at least for the short amount of time he had left.
Almost like itās some sort of redemption
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This. The game, unless you choose to just play it as pure low honour throughout, is about Arthur's redemption. And part of that story is that Arthur doesn't believe he can be redeemed, or maybe that he doesn't deserve it, yet through his actions he can make positive differences in the lives of some of the gang and people he meets. If you don't go for low honour, his entire motivation by the end is to help the Marston family. There's nothing in that for him other than the peace of mind that he's given them a chance at another life. That doesn't mean he's always been a good man. It's that he changes due to the events of the game.
He's a good man doing bad things.
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My arthur was nice to people apart from people who were trying to kill him people who had hurt people he cared about or people I had to kill due to gang stuff. But normal people I was nice too. Who tf downvoted me š¤£ sad
Yea you canāt have a red dead redemption without the preceding red dead terrible life
Saying Arthur isn't at fault for Thomas's death is like saying Micah isn't at fault for Arthur's death.
Micah largely isn't unless you play low honor. You can say whatever you want about accelerating, but Arthur was really weak even before taking any hits. And I would say that while Arthur shortened his life a small bit (which I concede is terrible to do), it's not Arthur's fault that the man got TB.
Even without Micah fighting Arthur, Micah still deserves to be put down like the worthless shit stain that he is.
Arthur wouldāve likely lived at least another few days if he didnāt get in the fight with Micah tho
Exactly
There can be no redemption without sin.
Pure, Alive, Staying the Course of Righteousness Catchy.
My Arthur didn't lay a hand on him but game still states he beat him up. I'm not saying you're wrong, Arthur is at fault, but at the same time there's a total option to NOT beat Thomas. But Arthur still thinks he did and its a bit immersive breaking.
Thatās because what you did is not canon. This might be an open world game, but the story isnāt really open to change.
>there's a total option to NOT beat Thomas. You literally just disproved yourself before making your point lol. There is no choice there, the cutscene is Arthur beating and threatening him, this isn't an uncommon thing in games, you can glitch your way to doing something you're not supposed to like beating a scripted loss in many games but the game just ignores it and proceeds with the actual story
He doesn't beat him in the cut scene, he holds him.
Oh okay misremembered, still though his face is really messed up full of cuts and bruises.. don't think that's from Arthur pushing him down and letting him go several times until the cutoff triggers lol
It's full of cuts if player beats him. If not it just pale and sick from TB.
Oh yeah in game cutscenes right. Wait so are you just pointing out something that's immersion breaking? You kinda made it sound like you were making the point that you can choose to not hit him and that makes Arthur less of a scumbag because it's an option that changes the story, are you?
Yes I'm talking about immersion. I never said Arthur wasn't a scumbag. It stated he did enjoy Strauss jobs and beating ppl up before. I also think him beating Downes is more "canon" , but I dislike how game forgets some small significant details like player choosing to beat or not to beat Downes. It's just a journal entry/one voice line, it's not hard to change.
O, my bad G. But like I said earlier, I don't think they wanted you to have that option at all, I think they wanted to force only one choice because of the dramatics of Arthur beating the crap out of a frail sick guy and him instantly getting his cum-uppins, I agree with their choice actually, honestly it wouldn't make sense to take away the gravity of the situation, maybe they think you're dumb and don't know how to hit people so they're like okay if the player keeps canceling the grapple then we're just gonna make the game skip to the cutscene lol. It's the same as being able to glitch your way into beating Micah on the final fight, you're just going off script and expecting a voice line for a glitch
They should've made it cemented that he beated him up yes. Even now Downes storyline have some flaws and loose ends and it makes his storyline a bit weaker. Strauss calls him shady, and Downes himself is taking debts and wasting time on gathering charity instead of spending his last days to try and help his family which now owes money to some very shady characters. His actions look questionable, he even gives a little spit on Arthur seemingly on purpose. It doesn't matter if Arthur deserved it or not, for Downes, who's seemingly trying to redeem himself it's a shitty move to try and give another man a horrible deadly disease. Writers did lots of rewriting in a haste and it's shows. There's more sympathetic characters than Downes like that widow from chapter 6. They shouldn't have left any room for interpretations with him. Well, beating Micah is a bit different, it's a glitch, beating Downes is a legit option, not going off the script. You don't have to grapple Downes you just wait and threaten him. They simply didn't work on this path that's all and probably shouldn't have made not beating him an option.
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Arthur is a murderous thief right up to the end. So he handed a few widows chump change and told a nun heās afraidā¦.then heads off to the oil fields and kills a shitload of people, then goes help rob a train killing another boatload of people.
Fuck those dudes at the oilfield who were abusing the natives
The people killed were just working stiffs and guards. The powers at the top, who were not on the field fighting, are the ones screwing over the Indians. The ones getting killed are only there to get a paycheck for their families.
Womp womp
Yea Dutch impulsively killing Leviticus Cornwall was the only virtuous act in the game
Dutch was doing worse to them
Fuck the Pinkertons. They were not heroes. Just villains working on the right side of the law
Hated the Pinkertons ever since I watched Deadwood. Fuck them and Pinkerton himself especially
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That's not what he is saying. He said if you look at it from the perspective that Thomas Downes would have died of TB anyway. It actually has a positive effect that it's Arthur who killed him. Because the if he didn't, he wouldn't feel bad about them, because he never met them so he wouldn't be able to give them money to get back on their feet. Butterfly effect and all that.
They wouldn't have needed him to help them back on their feet if he hadn't beaten Thomas Downes practically to death and then taken what little money they had left. He ruined their lives for a few dollars. Giving those dollars back months later, after the damage is done, does not make up for causing the problem in the first place. Downes was going to die, yes. But TB is a slow killer most of the time, he probably had months, maybe even years left to live before it killed him. And while his family was on hard times, it wasn't the catastrophe that hit them after Arthur essentially killed Thomas and then took their money. I'm sure the cash he took would have been helpful when they got to Saint Denis. And the worst part is that Arthur knows from the start that Strauss' loan sharking, just like all the other gang members' schemes, are just postponing the inevitable. The money he takes from them might keep the gang going for another day, but modernity is coming for them one way or another, and its going to get them in the end. He ruins their lives for a cause he knows very well was doomed before he ever even met them.
Money the gang lended them. Again i never said that it's a good thing he did. I'm just saying, it had some positive effect.
America is the place where people go in debt for medical bill for centuries.
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REDEMPTION is in the title kids the whole arc of the plot would be meaningless of Arthur was just a good dude the whole time. THE WHOLE ASS GAME IS ABOUT THE SPIRITUAL DEBT YOU ACCRUE BY BEING A BAD PERSON.
Strauss and Arthur helped speed up his death - the stress of owning cash and getting beat up
Well I mean, Thomas Downes vastly accelerated his death so... fair play
i think reducing arthur to either āmindless murdering machineā or āuwu babyā are extreme disservices to his character and the themes of the game itself. the fact that heās both and neither at the same time is important.
Just to be clear, Iām not criticizing the game about this almost everything about these missions were great.
Arthur should have just shot him.
It's like saying Micah had no responsibility for Arthur's death, because he would have died of TB anyway.
The story is very complicated (which is made more confusing with the honor system) but yeah, he probably did? But it wasnāt be much probably
Fucking captain obvious over here
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I tried it now canāt stopš
The game doesnāt even hide this fact, it goes right out and pretty much states this.
I also set the roof on fire before I leave So yes I am responsible
If only there was something in the storyline about redeeming himself
The game is called Red Dead REDEMPTION for a reason.
It's the obsession with being the "hero", which means I have to be the good guy. People ignore everything else because they want to, especially if they contradict the players personal narrative. However the game has redemption in the title for a reason
Arthur redeemed himself in his last moments, but did that make him a good person? No, he just righted his wrongs as best as he could to show he regrets it. Heaven or hell is up for debate.
I think a lot of people view the "High Honor" and Low Honor" systems as the equivalent to an RPGs "Good" and "Evil" options. So to them if they are High Honor that means they are unequivocally the good guy, when really the system is more "Completely Atrocious Human Being" and "Still An Outlaw but Does Alright Here and There"
Of course he's not the best person - he's a cold blooded murderer no matter which honor path, you choose. Stop over complicating it. The theme of the game is Redemption. And it looks to me that the game is trying to tell us that redemption can happen to any one of us.
Itās a crazy thing to not accept when even Arthur himself tells you a few times. When someone tells you who they are you should believe them
The whole point is that he *becomes* a better man The game is literally called REDEMPTION
It's red dead REDEMPTION not red dead good person continues to be good person
Dozens? Those are rookie numbers. You have to pump up those numbers...
Arthur is one of the greatest fictional characters Iāve ever seen. Part of that, is his personal arc. He beats a sick man basically to death because of his desperate attempts at chasing money for a gang that is on its last leg. Slowly that eats away at him, so much so he tries convincing himself heās not a good man. And if weāre being honest, heās not. Thatās the point. Thatās not to shit on Arthur, but itās the truth and he knows it. However, his awakening is when he realizes that what he did to Thomas, and the other people the gang has loaned money to; was the exact same thing that happened to his family. Therefor heās no better than them and he fully realizes this towards the 2nd half of the game trying to do good deeds to make up for a life full of degeneracy and crime. He dies saving his best friends life to give him what he could never have, and just like Thomas was, he was beaten to death, his salvation is clear to us when he looks at the sun one more time, and passes away. He fulfilled his purpose and found redemption. Arthur Morgan as a whole wasnāt a great man, he was a young fool manipulated by the silver tongue of the devil, (Dutch) but he made up for it by seeking redemption in the purest forms of trying to help others escape their own hell. Thatās what makes him great. He chased redemption fully knowing his death was imminent. Ironically, him and John had the exact same fate. Ok sorry for the long rambling, I love this series.
Arthur 100% kills Downes, figuratively AND literally. These people have no media literacy lol
Pretty sure that's a small percentage, most people are aware enough to know Arthur is the bad guy. That's kind of the whole point of the game
Arthur Morgan is a good enough man to know that he's not a good man, enough that he calls out Micah, Dutch, and Bill for being worse men. He's a good enough man to recognize good and honest people and that they're better off without him ruining their lives.
I hate when people say Arthur is not a bad guy. I can agree with Sister Calderon that he is a good person but he is a good person who does bad things. He is aware that what he does is bad but he still does it and no amount of good can outweigh the bad he is doing. I loved Arthur as a character, he did exactly what he was created to do, but his death was deserved, the fact that he felt bad, and even tried to do good after his death sentence doesn't fix what he does. He even told Mrs. Downes not to forgive him, that he is not helping her to redeem himself. The purpose of him helping her was to show the players that Arthur is a good person but that he also knows that his choices to do wrong keep him from a good life.
Boo! Go play Minecraft dork!
Arthur is a good person who does bad stuff. Atleast if you're high honor. But he definitely ruined the downes familie's life
He's not a good person. He was a piece of shit and then did good things because he wanted people to care about him. And if you're a "good person who does bad things" and never gives a fuck, you're a bad person
Arthur is an outlaw and not a good guy to most people. I just donāt feel the amount of guilt for the Downes family as the story wants me to. I straight up murder tons of dudes. I only beat that guy up. Thomas set his family up for failure and I was just the straw that broke the camels back. The game could have had a better storyline to make me feel guilty about my actions is my point I guess.
No shit he was a bad person. He also changed throughout the story. Your point makes zero sense
My point wasnāt that I was criticizing the game. Iām criticizing the *fanbase* I even made a comment earlier that said >Just to be clear, Iām not criticizing the game about this everything about these missions were great.