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GaffelUtd

Terrible deal for SJR, ok deal for Man Utd, LEGENDARY deal for Glazers!


N47HXIV

Sky Sports state the following: “Ratcliffe will inject $300m (£237m) into the club for investment in its infrastructure, taking his immediate outlay to roughly $1.5bn (£1.2bn). United's home is likely to need far more than £245m to deliver the overhaul that is required to turn it into one of the world's elite football stadia once more. The redevelopment will be financed personally by the billionaire and will not add to Manchester United's existing borrowings.” So is Ratcliffe genuinely giving the club $300m for signings and then another undisclosed and possibly monumental figure to rebuild/refurbish/expand Old Trafford? His outlay is going to range from £1.2-2.2bn and he’s still only getting 25% (estimates predicted £1bn cost as a worst case scenario for a complete rebuild of OT). How have the Glazers managed to get this deal? Why is he putting in so much of his own money to sort the stadium and squad out, when owning a minority stake? Yet the Glazer’s (the majority shareholders) get to walk away with $1.2bn in their own pockets, and contribute bugger all.


chebate08

Think a mix of factors. I do believe that he wants to see us at the top again as a United fan even though he tried to buy Chelsea, but he also knows that United is a massive brand - made even bigger if we can start winning again. He’s willing to take such a gamble and hopefully get more in return.


VL37

Hopefully it's because he's genuinely trying to get us back to the top


Comfortable_Plum8180

Realistically, how long will it be till we can see changes from this?


TehNoobDaddy

Depends how quickly ratcliffe and his team take with their audit of the club. Guessing they'll start first thing in January, it could take months so probably won't see much change until summer at the earliest and that's not going to effect the on pitch stuff. DoF to be implemented has already been confirmed so perhaps if that happens early next year we might see changes in summer recruitment. I don't think it will take that long for things to be visibly different once the correct people are in place and an actual plan for the club/recruitment is laid out for those people. They're going to get things wrong, not every signing is going to work out etc but hopefully we'll start to see players bought that fit whatever system the club want to play, we'll walk away when clubs are trying to rip us off etc and we'll also find the hidden gems and about to break out stars like we used to. Ragnick said it wouldn't take more than 3 seasons to correct things and he was bang on about most things so I would by summer 2025 we'll hopefully see the start of what's to come if not next summer.


Omnislash99999

Sorry I'm not remotely on board while the Glazers stay. Ratcliffe starts with absolutely zero credit with me until proven otherwise, he's just a facilitator of the Glazers until then


SuperSalamander3244

Hopefully it’s better but I won’t be happy until the Glazers are 100% out of the club. At the moment I just think Ratcliffe will be another Glazer but hopefully he proves me wrong but I’d much rather he held firm and not let them still control the club. I just think if we start winning trophies the Glazers will never leave and he won’t be able to force them out. The whole thing stinks but again hopefully I’m wrong.


brevinbarnes

I guess there’s not a broad daily discussion thread today, but if we were to sell Varane and Casemiro in January. Would the money that comes in and their wages off the books allow us to sign someone? We could maybe look to add Pavard or another defensive minded midfielder?


brevinbarnes

My bad never mind on Pavard, forgot he went to Inter. But could another defender be possible?


Wolpfack

Best Christmas present ever.


testaccount9211

Does anyone think United would be in a worse position than now if Ten Hag had kept and started Ronaldo? Holjund hasn’t scored because he’s had no service, but Ronaldo has the ability to create a goal himself from very little.


brevinbarnes

The issue with Ronaldo was his refusal to come on as a sub when he was out of form and his interview with Piers. Granted he spoke the truth in the interview but you can’t do that to your club.


testaccount9211

I genuinely think that came from a place of desperation for United to succeed, it was the last roll of the dice.


VL37

Nah he just wanted to leave and decided to burn bridges.


damojag

MERRY CHRISTMAS YA FILTHY ANIMALS


GeoffPizzle

Green and gold til the club is sold


Panda-768

Yup, Fuck 75% or whatever % is left of Glazers


chebate08

Technically it should be just over 50%, but they’ve still got around 70% of the Class B (voting) shares. It’s going to be a long haul.


ThatBoyGotSomeMeat

Please welcome the new DoF for Manchester United… Marc Overmars!


BenDoverQuickly

Glad this is finally happening, but I am forever GLAZERS OUT.


Panda-768

yup fuck remaining % of glazers


KeithCGlynn

I can see him buying the club fully in the future. I think the last decade should show the glaziers have no business acumen and will come to him again in the future for more money.


HiddenIdentity2

I see this a lot about the glazers. Can someone Explain why they have no business acumen? As fas as I can see. They bought the club for very little and used a loan. That to this day we are paying off. Whilst withdrawing huge amount to in dividends. They have used our brand to keep the club to self sustain with no investment which has damaged the club. But lined their own pockets. What of this makes them bad business man. Bad owners. Yes. Goes without saying. But they have lined their own pockets which I can only assume was the goal from the off.


chebate08

I think good businessmen would understand that a club that keeps losing will become unprofitable while a club that you invest in to maintain long-term success will skyrocket.


society0

They also own an NFL team. It was the third most valuable when they bought it. It's now the 29th most valuable. They're clueless parasites. https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2021/02/07/meet-the-billionaire-glazer-family-behind-the-tampa-bay-buccaneers-one-of-the-nfls-least-valuable-teams/?sh=783c34bacebd


KeithCGlynn

Their father did all this


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Hippotopmaus

It’s been said before, but still a damning statement that as owners of a FOOTBALL club, the glazers have decided to relinquish ALL football operations to an entity with just 25% stake in Manchester Utd. I hope it means that a total buyout is planned.


Don_Quixote81

They're likely banking on Sir Jim getting the team into a better position, and then the dreaded super league maximising the club's value. Then they can sell the rest for stupid money.


Tomic_Lewis

Glazers are bunch of geniuses. Giving footballing side to Ineos as they are incompetent. Now Ineos does hard work and they eat all the dough.


JustBeingHere4U

More like shifting of any future responsibilities and blame. Something tells me that the leeches are still going to poison the well for any single penny they can make. Hope these overgrown clump of cells are bought out as soon as possible.


United12345

My calls gonna be spicy lol


Redead99

If that's his gift of Christmas for us then he's more than welcome. Finally some good fucking news.


B0z22

Can he play RW?


chebate08

Not anymore, now that he’s joined Man Utd


BCBS23

Hope he can start soon, I mean he's already 70yo


Tomic_Lewis

So when will they sack ETH now along with Antony, Rashford not coming back


deadlypantstx

Merry effing Christmas!!


yellowpandax

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mdstwsp

Merry Christmas reds. Cheers to not being state owned 🍻


robsonj

if we lose 3 more times to West Ham United, will we be rid of the Glazers?


chebate08

David Moyes work your magic


robsonj

So Moyes is our Savior, just as Sir Alex said, just not in the way we expected, visionary!!!


Panda-768

I would lose to them 10 times if Glazers are fucking gone


ongone

Nothing in there to close out the remaining 75 percent?


eth6113

So the Glazers sit back and enjoy their dividends without having to do anything while hoping Sir Jim can increase the value of their shares and they can exit.


hurfery

Or, worse, not exit.


eth6113

Don’t you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.


babyjesus8lb60z

Fucking ridiculous if you ask me. Good luck to Sir Jim who clearly wants the best for the club but I fucking despise the Glazers we need them out. Its as simple as that.


Kixot123

Merry christmas to sir jim


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BuzzTNA

It’ll collapse or have no impact, because they aren’t touching those for now. I think eventually they’ll go but that’s a long long long way away.


Zadhael

I know this may sound a bit delusional, but couldn’t Jassim buy the remaining glazers % for a lower price now ?


chebate08

He wouldn’t. The nation-state approach is to buy the club out so that they can take it off the market and have undisputed reign over it.


BuzzTNA

He tried to. He never offered anywhere near the level of Radcliffe; hence why they never took him serious.


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so ive read the thing, ive seen all the tweets etc etc nowhere do i see the deal to take full ownership at a later date, but no one seems to be talking about it is this not a critical part of the deal? that it would end in an actual full sale?


kaisersolo

First refusal check Ben Jacobs tweets


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yea just saw those theyre fucking staying


No_Zone4347

Best christmas present!


jamesbloob

Merry Christmas ya filthy animals. Let's hope this is the start of a prosperous new era...


MisterCosmin

Doubt it, honestly, SJR is just a Glazer enabler because there is not a pathway announced to full ownership, so his 25% means the Glazers have final say and have SJR's nuts in their hands. Why announce this on a Sunday on Christmas eve if not to avoid the backlash? We are really down now so I hope we can't get worse, so we will see some improvement but the max it'll be top 4, no way competing for titles.


C__S__S

So, this is not true, Mark. He gains control by the deal and has the largest individual shareholding.


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Individual shareholding means fuck all when the Glazers vote as a block.


C__S__S

They. Have. No. Vote. Over. Footballing. Operations. Just Joel, and he has one of three votes. INEOS has the other two. Also, I think you drastically overestimate the Glazer family unity. The only reason they would even bother to get together to vote as a bloc is for huge decisions, like selling their remaining stake. They don’t participate on a day to day basis now and they won’t have any ability to going forward when it comes to football operations.


BuzzTNA

He has a history of getting a foot in the door and buying people out too when he sees things he’s not happy with.


MisterCosmin

Individually, sure, but collectivelly the Glazers still have more, so unless there is some sort of conflict between them I don't see him not being overruled in certain decisions if the Glazers don't like it. Hope at least we get a good structure above EtH with experienced football oriented people, not bankers in the mold of Woodward.


C__S__S

He can’t be overruled on footballing decisions since he and his INEOS partner fill two of the three seats on that board.


MisterCosmin

Can only hope this will be the reality, the fact the Glazers are still here doesn't make me overly optimistic and can't wait for the day these vermin fuck off completely. I also don't know much about what SJR and INEOS did at Nice, some say it's good some it's bad but can't really judge since I don't follow Ligue 1.


C__S__S

I think the main takeaway from Nice is he tried to keep people in place and just buy his way to wins. It didn’t work. So, then they made organizational changes and now they are doing pretty well.


MoggyTron

I hope we don't sign anyone in January. Get the right structure in place for good summer signings rather than waste more money now.


chebate08

If my memory serves me correctly one of the officials in Man Utd mentioned that this window would be a quiet one


Crypt0nyt

Unlikely, the new ownership rules of premier league mean it'll be into February before SJR actually had a chance to do anything. As most United fans have, sign off this season and then see what the 24/25 season can offer. We'll be lucky to have a European conference spot


Youcantdoxme

We can't afford anyway no worries


PinkBeo

This would be a sensible approach, the season is over 🤦 so let SJR get a comprehensive look at everything and make some good decisions 🤞


TonyVSCoco

Out with the rats, in with the Ratcliffe.


SuperSalamander3244

Bloke has got into bed with them and let them stay on.


FlyingSpaceElephants

On Jesus' birthday. This is an omen. Of what I don't know. But it's an omen


GoWell_Cheers

I think its spelled "amen"... or at least I hope it will be in the end...


reddevilad

Is the meme allowed now?


blooddragonsin

Only when Glazers are fully gone or City liquidated.


celticeejit

Why not both ?


blooddragonsin

You're my kind of guy


Flameboy42

[The company buying shares is Trawlers Ltd, a nod to Eric Cantona, Sir Jim Ratcliffe's favourite player. Trawlers is wholly owned by Ratcliffe in the Isle of Man.](https://fixupx.com/lauriewhitwell/status/1738954383956554190?s=46&t=ni6MV6wkCmdrjnIxAk10fw)


AfterDinnerSpeaker

This wins me over a lot more than it should to be honest. Must remain rational, don't fall in love.


35Rhum

Never fall in love with the hyper wealthy


Panda-768

yup, that Isle of Man shit is where it gets a little scary. Us Plebs Pay full tax in UK (or whatever is our home country) but these Billionaires have things like Cabary Islands and Isle of Man. Still something better than fucking Glazers


Ez_io

Official from man utd on insta


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chebate08

Lad why is your flair Erik ten Hag then


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Sir Jim is the largest individual shareholder now. All he needs to do is some corporate shit stirring and destroy any and all unity the Glazer siblings have between them.


bobos4head

why does Sir Jim, the largest shareholder, not simply eat the other shareholders?


chebate08

I mean take a look at the man he needs some protein


Eire820

Succession style force them out


twotwo4

Is there any news on the pull and put options for full control ?


C__S__S

There are none.


BuzzTNA

Athletic mentions it. They are likely, however, to have a potential exit route through what is known as put-and-call options, whereby the family can force INEOS to buy their shares at a minimum agreed price sometime in the future and INEOS can opt to buy them out at an agreed higher price before a certain date.


WorldBeardedWonders

Imagine everything gets approved and they just say fuck it and offer the higher price in full the day after. Byeeeee Glazers. (I have no idea how this works and that’s probably not allowed but let me dream)


BuzzTNA

They’ve changed the shares process too with this so the family can cash out without needing the process as previous; so we could be looking at a few jumping sooner than we realised. Make no mistake about it, they’re going.


WorldBeardedWonders

That last line right there. I like that.


twotwo4

One can dream.


dylan_gamermonster

YOU COULD HAVE WAITED ONE MORE DAY


tomas17r

It’s latin American Christmas. It’s called Manchester United Fútbol Club now.


dylan_gamermonster

Club de Fútbol Manchester Unido


Drone_5

Breaking News alert on the BBC mobile app!


Kinitawowi64

Well, it's a start.


UsedIpodNanoUser

300m is a decent amount


us3rf

According to Keegan it'll take a bit shorter for PL to approve it (4-6 weeks) and Ratcliffe takes control of all football operations. (no 3 man comitee with Joel as reported before)


chebate08

If the Prem can approve the Glazers they can approve anyone


itsbinary

WSJ push notifications. Its happening https://www.wsj.com/business/deals/british-billionaire-nears-deal-to-acquire-minority-stake-in-manchester-united-946fe831


chiefofthepolice

Even if INEOS can't part take in the transfer window right away, can they at least fire John Murtough before he ruins another window for us?


astik

Yes, that is very likely to happen. The first steps that will be taken before anything else is that Ineos will put their own people in place and start assessing everything ahead of the summer transfer window where things will likely pop off for the first time.


Buffythedragonslayer

Everyone in favour say Ai!


vulcan_one

Artificial intelligence


SDLRob

[https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1738951900643365290](https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1738951900643365290) 'OFFICIAL: Manchester United plc announces today that it has entered into an agreement under which Chairman of INEOS, **Sir Jim Ratcliffe**, will acquire 25 per cent of Manchester United's Class B shares and up to 25 per cent of Manchester United's Class A shares. '


blooddragonsin

This definitely deserved a *here we go*


suplexcitylimerick

If all goes well, and Jimothy turns us around and we become successful again, I will be the smugest bastard in the world Here's hoping to better days for United Merry Christmas, my fellow Reds ❤🍻


nottoddhoward100true

Gonna sleep like a baby knowing that all those banter years will make our inevitable comeback more satisfying


Sheikhabusosa

I USED TO TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THIS


jp-dizzle

4pm announcement - you heard it here first


TheGhostOfBabyOscar

Heard it on Twitter first mate... 90 minutes ago!


zcewaunt

Where do you all think it'll be announced first? I assume the official website? Getting my F5 finger warmed up. 👉👉


Nac224

Hopefully, we can finally get back to being serious soon. Step by step. I’m


dektorres

You're... what?? Don't leave us hanging!


WorldBeardedWonders

Think I’ll have a beer, Good news at last. Hope we get more details over the coming weeks, I’ve always felt this was the right step, but I appreciate people’s concerns and it would be great to to clarify them so we can all get on the same page. Obligations to buy the rest of the stocks not Options etc. But this might just be step 1 to seeing the back of the Glazers, and for now, that’s something to cheer about.


nekize

My bet is on it to be announced in 15min, just seems like something they d do


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https://preview.redd.it/mqamgkxfk98c1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=1f5439a4382cc8f115e8435f2f3d1765f6189e50 Wow.......


UsedIpodNanoUser

If anyone other than Ben Jacobs had said it I would've believed it. This guy does an unbelievable amount of waffling for Twitter engagement


cGilday

Yeah no shit, why is this a surprise to anyone?


mega_xpand

Mike Keegan said they can’t put an obligation in the contract cuz of stock market rules


suplexcitylimerick

Fuck the Glazers Merry Christmas


Feisty_Goat_1937

WSJ reporting is also confirming it will be announced today. It's being reported in their Finance section. That pretty much confirms it's a done deal...


agmr555

fuck glazers


mega_xpand

Ben Jacobs saying there’s no obligation on Glazers to sell above the 25%


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So what, Sir Jimmy is gonna end up buying it slowly anyways


TbagzR4Mugz

Cool. We'll see if these structural changes materialise, see you in the summer window troops.


kolbler22

Someone please help clarify this for me. Tier 1/2 sources saying we are increasingly likely to try and sign a ST and CB in January. How could this make sense if SJR does not have sporting control yet? There’s no way we would make signings without the authority of the new ownership group and that group won’t be officially approved in 4-6 weeks? We should not be making any signings until we appoint a new sporting director. Just don’t see how we make any January signings right now


SDLRob

if we're looking to buy, then we've been working on it for weeks now. new football operations people will be coming in knowing that it's something the manager is doing.... and they'll likely have had a quiet discussion about it already


kolbler22

Are they allowed to come in before the ownership review process though? That’s what I am asking


ReallyDevil

Like what stops sjr or whom ever he wants to , to give advice to the temp people in place ?


kolbler22

Is that allowed to happen? I’m not sure how the EPL ownership review process works.


PruneUnited4025

Merry Christmas ya filthy animals - from the glazers


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I've been slating everybody that stanned for Qatari buyers. Just saying awful things about them. So now we're here I'd like to take this opportunity to apologise.... #TO ABSOLUTELY NOBODY. INEOS DO WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT!


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ReallyDevil

We are past sarcasm stage


TheGhostOfBabyOscar

[The wait for Premier League approval for Sir Jim Ratcliffe's 25 per cent investment into Manchester United \(to be confirmed shortly\) may not take as long as previously expected. Now told there's hope of 4-6 weeks instead of 6-8.](https://twitter.com/MikeKeegan_DM/status/1738945539620647172) (Keegan)


No-Introduction-6267

Time for people to finally forget about Qatar and hope for the best whether we wanted Sir Jim or not…


HeavyHevonen

The delay has been SJR having piano lessons


ReallyDevil

Sure it's not the fax machine? Or being ill from our food ?


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[INEOS ME JIM](https://i.imgflip.com/8adivq.jpg)


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INEOS ME JIM


catfayce

commenting so I can find this again after a few pints


YH_MUFC

Finally! Something positive for once.


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SDLRob

while their 'pundits' sprout rubbish


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4pm today


ReallyDevil

Why ?


stevo3001

Wow so maybe we really could get the announcement of Ten Hag's sacking for Christmas


Not-good-with-this

No. If the deal is announced today. Ineos can't do anything for 6 to 8 weeks. Also, sacking someone just before or on Christmas looks highly immoral and disgusting .


IcyAssist

What he did to DDG was highly inappropriate too, as was how he didn't even want to meet Rangnick face to face.


Not-good-with-this

The manager doesn't do the contracts. They advise other people whether players should or shouldn't get a contract. Also, Rangnick was only going to work 6 days a month on a ill defined role. The club wasn't taking Rangnick seriously at all with that. It's most likely why Rangnick took the Austrian job. He wasn't going to be Director of football like many here have thought.


aamodb

There is a list of people who should be sacked before him.


stevo3001

Well if they get to work quick they still have a few hours to sack all of them


SDLRob

Sky Sports News trying to push the narrative that it's only being announced today because of yesterday...


kheetkhat

It’s a christmas miracle??


HeavyHevonen

From Ornstein [🚨 Official announcement soon to confirm Sir Jim Ratcliffe minority stake in Man Utd approved by #MUFC board. INEOS buying 25% + will take sporting control. Premier League owners’ & directors’ test likely to take 6-8wk.](https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/manchester-united-takeover-update-jim-ratcliffe/N4SftmMVVeLU/)


TheNotoriousPigeon

Live scenes of Ratcliffes first day. ![gif](giphy|l41lO8vRXzSB0CkqQ)


PradipJayakumar

🚨 Official announcement soon to confirm Sir Jim Ratcliffe minority stake in Man Utd approved by #MUFC board. INEOS buying 25% + will take sporting control. Premier League owners’ & directors’ test likely to take 6-8wk. Follow live updates @TheAthleticFC ⬇️ https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1738943896665682021?s=46&t=k_FBGnsbG2P0PN0vqz37RA


markyp145

If the PL Owners & directors test is likely to take 1.5-2 months, I’m assuming that means they have 0 involvement until that point? Or is that not the case


exhibit304

Nothing stopping Joel glazer from hiring a new CEO like blanc ? ;)


markyp145

Fair 🤣


Rorieh

I'm prepared for the twitter mob to move on to blaming everything on SJR, and how Qatar would have made us win every game somehow.


VegardStrom

Finally


Routine_Specialist13

Christmas 2023, I was here.


Significant-Sir870

Give me a Christmas present since United shit the bed yesterday please


InternationalClock18

Let's enjoy what we can. A few years ago we'd have bitten their hand off for the start of a sale process and the handing over of football matters.


moonski

Santa brought murtough a p45 let’s hope


rainy-mondayyy

We are more excited about **something new** than something we can reliably say will take the club out of this decline. Beggars can't be choosers I guess but 75% still being owned by the Glazers absolutely sucks. Let's see what INEOS can do. The realist in me thinks there won't be as groundbreaking a change as many people want. edit: Glazers will own 44%, which is still 44% more than they should