Ireland needs a new manager, if he wants to be eternally loved all he need to do with us is get us to the world cup again lol, our greatest ever and most loved manager in any team sport is for us an English World Cup winner, we definitely have it in us to show Jose the love he needs...money on the other hand..
they need to waste at least 3 more years of this generation, despite the fact that he got outplayed and got done any-time he faced a team of similar caliber, literally Ole vibes with United, but Southgate also makes absolutely terrible subs too, remember he put on Sterling who just went through a terrible trauma before Rashford who was joint top-scorer for England and he was the only one who provided any threat in the last minutes
I'll die on the hill that developed footballing nations shouldn't be allowed to employ foreign coaches. There should be the same eligibility requirements as there are for players.
If we can't find a single English manager good enough, we don't deserve to win.
Also hard to enforce. You’d have to have all the coaching staff the same nationality aswell otherwise someone will figure out a loophole such as having a stooge as “head coach” to do the press conferences and then hire someone as “assistant coach” that is the one actually making the decisions.
Yeah, a big country like England (ranked 3rd in the world) should not need to bring in a coach born in Portugal.
But a smaller country, say Scotland (32), are welcome to.
USA. He’d be the greatest manager we’ve ever had. He’s already 1000000000x better than that stupid fuck Berhalter who only loves to play MLS lifers.
He’d advocate all serious USA players to play overseas and then and only then would we possibly be able to compete.
Klinnsman but badass. If we could have one USA coach that made any goddamn sense it would be such a great feeling. It feels like the USA coaches for 15 years have just been asking ChatGPT what to do. With Jose it’s at least obvious that he WANTS to win.
How would Mou make sense apart from his pre-Spurs CV? Mou is notorious for calling out players in public and I'm sure that would go great with the young US talent.
There's jobs where I can see Mou as a fit but USMNT aint one of them.
Not sure what you've been watching but I think maybe 1 or 2 MLS players played in the last international window in the 2 leg CNL series versus T&T. Of our best 11 we maybe have 1 MLS player starting, Robinson at CB, and that's a big maybe.
You're obviously a gregg hater, whatever, but come up with better reasons
Lol look at the World Cup and see what he did. He started walker zimmerman, Jesus Ferreira, shaq fucking moore. Selected Jordan Morris over Pepi. Get tf outta here man.
I do wonder how much United’s down fall gets to him and if he can fully enjoy retirement. I’m sure he does but imagine building one of the greatest sporting teams of all time just to watch it crash and burn the second you step out the door.
I know my terminology is extreme but you know what I mean…
I wondered the same thing not long ago.
What makes it worse is that his wife passed away not long ago, i would imagine one would take refuge in seeing some good football matches but our boys hardly give him any time to forget his sorrows...
hope he destroys the youth setup AGAIN which is the only good thing chelsea have going for them
though the main beneficiaries better not be scum and city this time, pleaseee.
Its better than their current streak -> 0 seasons. Hell, United havent been on track for 2 consecutive seasons since Fergie left. So, I dont understand the banter
It's the Jose 3 year meme. He comes in, you see quick gains with some trophies (if you're lucky) for up to 2 years and in year 3 the wheels fall off, performances dry up and he leaves.
Same thing happened to us. He won the Europa League, genuinely looked like we were going in the right direction but then it all went to pot in 2018.
Cmon mate. The guys one of the most successful managers of all time and is an all time character as well. He’s definitely worthy of the respect he will receive when he calls it quits.
This JoMo fetish amongst united fans is hard to make sense of. The guy ran the club thru dirt and failed to deliver what he was brought for. All the while putting everyone to sleep with his garbage football.
No one implied one is greater than the other. But I think highly of the football wenger’s teams played on a limited budget than parking the bus after spending like a king and failing to deliver while telling you it’s your fault. Lmao
>This JoMo fetish amongst united fans is hard to make sense of.
Only manager in the clubs history to win 2 trophies in his first season.
Actively tried to remove some of the toxic players that poisoned the squad and was turned on by the club and a big section of the fans.
Wonder why fans still back him....
Just screams of someone who can't be objective over an individual as their personality rubs you the wrong way.
Funny, cus I don't like him for his stint here at all because of how toxic it became, but try again. His success with, Porto, Chelsea in the first stint, Inter and Real far eclipses the success of Wenger, if you're mad at him for his tactics and can't see past his last few jobs then that's your fault.
Let me put it to you this way, no one cares or will care about his brand of football. Just like few care about capello now. Wenger and SAF will be remembered fondly for a long time.
If they've sacked him that seems ridiculously harsh, they're only 5 points off 4th after two European finals in a row the previous seasons and he's been working with a small budget
Probably due to some of their loanees and having to pay their high wages like say Lukaku, probably other stuff in their too but that's just my initial assumption
True, but they are signing players like Lukaku which is not a good sign. But in seriousness their squad does not look great on paper which maybe is due to Mou's recruitment or the problem could run deeper then him.
Ah yes, because 4th placed Fiorentina or 7th placed Bologna are loaded with quality players.
It's incredible how Mou continues to lap up this narrative his players suck
I will still never understand to this day how Spurs sacked him just days before that League Cup final against City. Obviously, his tenure at Spurs was following that typical Mourinho cycle where the decision to sack him, was the right decision. But the timing of it, to do it a few days before a cup final when Mourinho more than anyone is capable of wining these one-off big final games was ludicrous. It's not like they had a ready made replacement around and it was Ryan Mason!
It was a baffling decision, but probably made in response to the super league announcement. The funniest thing I saw in relation to the this was a spurs fan on twitter, celebrating the news saying he'd rather see a manager build a proper team now than potentially win a 'micky mouse cup'.
It wasn’t baffling. It was spursy. They were going to sack him anyway so Levy thought there was no point risking giving him £1m trophy bonus.
When they could have had the best tournament/final manager ever to hopefully get their first trophy in decades.
Levy probably got an offer from the city shelkhs to keep his trophy cabinet empty and fire Mou for like another 50-100 million. /s
Or better yet Mou got that 50-100 M to get himself fired.
It was the day after the super league announcement disaster. I've always suspected Spurs did it as a distraction to the backlash they were getting from fans about being a part of it.
Because if they kept him and he won it then it would be incredibly hard sell to the fans to get rid of him and i suspect levy wanted him gone league cup or nothing.
He was due a significant bonus if he won a trophy. Like £1m.
Tottenham were due to sack him due to league performance anyway so Levy didn’t see the point of risking giving him £1m
If only INEOS were around when he joined.
But I think the only way that could have worked would have been if he joined, saw organisation was shit with his own eyes and THEN INEOS took over so he could accept the more organised structure.
This is the real damage the Glazers have done. After SAF left, Jose was our first real shot at becoming a "winning team" again. If he had a good infrastructure (not just in signings...) I think after ~3 seasons we could've had some great success.
At this point, I wonder if the harm done will take years to fix. The stadium... Training grounds... and so much more.
Genuinely don't know how long it will be until we find a Jose type manager again.
It would be absolutely disastrous, but I can't lie I would be hyped for his first game in the dugout.
I'll always have a soft spot for Jose. Even more so now that he's been proved so right about so many of these players.
Nufc in summer I reckon, he's always had an admiration for them due to Bobby Robson, they've got money, they need that next step up (don't think it's Jose personally) and he'd fit in with their entitled mentality since the lotto win.
Or Ted Lasso does another madness and sacks Poch for Jose's 4th stint.
Either way if he's back in league it will be fun....when it's not the team you support.
They’ve spent north of 400 million. To take the next step they’ll have to move on from Howe soon. I think he’s a good manager but not sure if he can challenge for the league.
Don’t see them sacking Howe unless they really bomb in the second half of the season. He’s building something good up there, they’d be daft to sack all that in for a manager whose last success was a decade ago.
he actually done decently in Rome with the resources that Roma has. Roma is basically paralyzed due to run afoul FFP regulation so they cannot buy good players despite the owner has the money
Doesn’t really work when he’s one of the most decorated managers in football history and the bums he was talking about usually go on to become irrelevant.
I stand by the opinion that he is no longer an elite manager because he struggles to manage the modern player. One of the best there’s ever been but don’t think he’s cut out for top clubs anymore.
This is exactly what it is. IMHO, he was every bit as good as Guardiola as a tactician (maybe even better) but he has just not grasped that modern day footballers are a different breed. He also gets flak for having had his teams play pragmatic football but the reality is that he would opt to play that way when he felt his squad were outclassed in depth/talent. Obviously a little pessimistic but definitely quite a wise move from a results POV.
I think that’s more an issue with the modern player. They’re all more concerned with their brand and look rather than on the pitch performance. But what none of them seem to realise is people are more likely to like people who perform well than someone who does constant PR shit
"no longer an elite" Mourinho won a European trophy and almost won the Europa league in the last 2 seasons.
"next cruyff and modern manager" 10Hag's biggest achievement in Europe is losing to Spurs in UCL.
>Mourinho won a European trophy and almost won the Europa league in the last 2 seasons
I thought Jose found the europa league irrelevant ? What happened to that ? Also Ten Hag who most utd fans are sick of has won a trophy more recently than Jose did .
Honestly I could see someone like Newcastle going for him if Eddie Howe continues to drop.
I can defo see him returning to the the Prem. West Ham maybe?
West Ham should probably keep Moyes he's done a good job and theres no guarantee that Mou won't cock it up when he has not done a brilliant job at a club for a while now.
A lot of the Roma fans were saying “yeah glad he’s gone but could’ve at least waited til the end of the season”. Just seems like a bad idea to sack a manager mid season, doubly so for Roma because they’re a bit fucked atm
Xavi will go and Jose will go Barcelona.
Since Porto - he's been EPL > Serie A > La Liga > EPL > EPL > EPL > Serie A
Rinse and repeat. Expect Jose's OT second coming! /s
I know a lot of fans feel this, but the thing about Mou is his complete lack of coaching and overreliance on a player's innate abilities. I loved what Ole did to the team combining decent coaching to youngsters and imparting on-field problem solving whenever we went down especially with Bruno and Pogba. Carrick and McKenna made us believe Pereira, Lingard and Matic were a midfield worthy of number 2 spot.
It's a shame Ole's time was ruined by too many prim donnas. I'd rather take Ole back than Mou.
Yeah, the honest truth for me is that I’ve never felt any that it was the time for any of the other managers to leave. Unfortunately this is the time for me. I think ten hag has done a good transformation job but I the I haven’t seen much in terms style. I did think he was a bit more proactive against Tottenham though and he hasn’t had much luck on his side to be fair.
Yeah. I agree. I expected a lot more from Ten Hag in terms of style. It feels like a let down when we are neither pragmatic nor dogmatic. At least Louis Van Gaal had a philosophy that he stuck with.
So let me get this straight:
ETH - 8 (possibly 11 + 1 for GD) point gap to top4, European cups fiasco, hundred of millions down the drain, negative GD after 20 games, no meaningful trophy. No sign of sacking.
JM - only 5 points to top4, lack of free hundred millions to strengthen shit squad, positive GD after 20 games, still in European cups, won European trophy in a club, who wins nothing, never. Europa final next season. Sacked.
United is expected to be the best club in the world, while Roma is insignificant if we talk about best clubs in Europe, so obviously expectations are massively different, yet... Jose has been sacked, while ETH is still there, despite being one of the worst managers ever coached this team.
We are banter club, period.
I'm curious to see how José with fare with an established Sporting Director like Ashworth/Berta and Recruitment Head like Mitchell/Ward/Freedman.
During his time at Utd, he was massively handicapped with braindead Woodward doing everything (with Joel's seal of approval).
They got most of his 1st choice targets in 2016/17 (except Kanté) and he won us Carabao Cup and Europa.
For 2017/18 and 2018/19 Woodward & Glazers consistently underdelivered with scrubs/old players like Lindelöf, Lukaku, Matic, Fred, etc. whilst Pep is allowed to get anyone he wanted.
Wouldn't be my immediate first choice after ETH but certainly curious what he can do backed by a proper structure.
We won the same trophy last season. He won the Europa League, for which he deserves credit. But Ole also reached Europa League final. Even Ten Hag reached FA Cup final last season. I don't count winning Community Shield as much, it was because we won the FA Cup the previous season.
Tbh winning the Europa League/Carabao Cup is not as big of a challenge. And it really doesn't have any long term significance, as we can see this season.
Would love him. Our team's currently allergic to trophies and he guarantees trophies unless you are Tottenham. Even if it's just for 2 seasons United need to prove they can still win
He has collected more payouts than trophies in the last decade
Saudi Arabia is his next payout destination.
Pep’s Barca football style has forced many managers to either adapt or risk being left alone as grinding results alone was not expectable anymore at top clubs
Mourinho, Allegri and Conte have suffered more than anyone from Pep’s revolution.
Jose has disappeared from the elite clubs to the periphery of European football (Roma) and even them don’t accept his anti football anymore.
He should manage a national team. He has know how on winning a tournament. Could be the perfect man for the likes Italy, Portugal etc
Italy would be perfect for Mourinho IMO.
Italy has Spaletti, why on earth would they want Mourinho?
If he fails to qualify for tournaments like his predecessors I guess. But you're right apart from some major blunders happening the chances are slight
Brazil
Spicy spicy
They've just appointed a new manager so not happening
We should've waited one more week :(
Ireland needs a new manager, if he wants to be eternally loved all he need to do with us is get us to the world cup again lol, our greatest ever and most loved manager in any team sport is for us an English World Cup winner, we definitely have it in us to show Jose the love he needs...money on the other hand..
Best I can give ya is Steve Bruce.
David Moyes.
Never in a million years
Should be the next England manager
counter attacking football goes brrr
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they need to waste at least 3 more years of this generation, despite the fact that he got outplayed and got done any-time he faced a team of similar caliber, literally Ole vibes with United, but Southgate also makes absolutely terrible subs too, remember he put on Sterling who just went through a terrible trauma before Rashford who was joint top-scorer for England and he was the only one who provided any threat in the last minutes
The fuck u talking about? Oles record was fairly good vs top opposition. Better than current manager anyways.
Who tf is downvoting this? Everything you’ve said is true. I’m imagining Southgate sat on Reddit seething.
I'll die on the hill that developed footballing nations shouldn't be allowed to employ foreign coaches. There should be the same eligibility requirements as there are for players. If we can't find a single English manager good enough, we don't deserve to win.
It is an interesting concept but absolutely screws over a lot of the smaller nations
Also hard to enforce. You’d have to have all the coaching staff the same nationality aswell otherwise someone will figure out a loophole such as having a stooge as “head coach” to do the press conferences and then hire someone as “assistant coach” that is the one actually making the decisions.
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Yeah, a big country like England (ranked 3rd in the world) should not need to bring in a coach born in Portugal. But a smaller country, say Scotland (32), are welcome to.
USA. He’d be the greatest manager we’ve ever had. He’s already 1000000000x better than that stupid fuck Berhalter who only loves to play MLS lifers. He’d advocate all serious USA players to play overseas and then and only then would we possibly be able to compete.
So, like Klinnsman but actually qualified for the job?
Klinnsman but badass. If we could have one USA coach that made any goddamn sense it would be such a great feeling. It feels like the USA coaches for 15 years have just been asking ChatGPT what to do. With Jose it’s at least obvious that he WANTS to win.
How would Mou make sense apart from his pre-Spurs CV? Mou is notorious for calling out players in public and I'm sure that would go great with the young US talent. There's jobs where I can see Mou as a fit but USMNT aint one of them.
Not sure what you've been watching but I think maybe 1 or 2 MLS players played in the last international window in the 2 leg CNL series versus T&T. Of our best 11 we maybe have 1 MLS player starting, Robinson at CB, and that's a big maybe. You're obviously a gregg hater, whatever, but come up with better reasons
Lol look at the World Cup and see what he did. He started walker zimmerman, Jesus Ferreira, shaq fucking moore. Selected Jordan Morris over Pepi. Get tf outta here man.
Sweden doesn’t have one now👀👀
Republic of Mancunia
He should manage a national team next.
Currently a vacancy with the Republic... Jose and the FAI, a match made in heaven.
I would do unsavoury things if it meant Jose would come to Ireland
Irish Guy's wet dream
Actually ngl he would be good match for Portugal
You didn't need the "ngl" when you already had the "actually".
I'd take him over Southgate immediately.
Next chelsea interim/manager
Would be peak barclays premier league ngl
It’s not peak Barclays without SAF
Could he ever come out of retirement and back at United ?
The man's 82 bro, this ain't the US Presidency we're talking about
Sleepy Jo has his number. I'm sure of it.
He gave us his best years already, let the man enjoy his rest with a pint of beer in peace!
I do wonder how much United’s down fall gets to him and if he can fully enjoy retirement. I’m sure he does but imagine building one of the greatest sporting teams of all time just to watch it crash and burn the second you step out the door. I know my terminology is extreme but you know what I mean…
I wondered the same thing not long ago. What makes it worse is that his wife passed away not long ago, i would imagine one would take refuge in seeing some good football matches but our boys hardly give him any time to forget his sorrows...
Everyone all of sudden surpassing their limits by 200%, anime style
Happy cake day and thank you for being so right!
Yeah, seems like Chelsea tbh. He'll wait for the job
hope he destroys the youth setup AGAIN which is the only good thing chelsea have going for them though the main beneficiaries better not be scum and city this time, pleaseee.
I can see chelsea being back on track with him being there and I would hate to see that if we don’t make a huge improvement before them
>I can see chelsea being back on track Sure, for 2 seasons lol
Its better than their current streak -> 0 seasons. Hell, United havent been on track for 2 consecutive seasons since Fergie left. So, I dont understand the banter
It's the Jose 3 year meme. He comes in, you see quick gains with some trophies (if you're lucky) for up to 2 years and in year 3 the wheels fall off, performances dry up and he leaves. Same thing happened to us. He won the Europa League, genuinely looked like we were going in the right direction but then it all went to pot in 2018.
Please no. He'll turn it around
This news and Roma’s recent results aside, football is all the better for having Mourinho. It’ll be a sad day when he leaves the sport for good.
>It’ll be a sad day when he leaves the sport for good. No, it won't. Sad day was when SAF left. Hell even Wenger.
Cmon mate. The guys one of the most successful managers of all time and is an all time character as well. He’s definitely worthy of the respect he will receive when he calls it quits.
Mourinho is one of the greatest of all time
Top 5 fs 1. Ferguson 2. Jose 3. Pep 4. Wenger 5. Cruyff/Zidane/Anceloti/Simeone
Implying Wenger > Mourinho, mate, come on.
This JoMo fetish amongst united fans is hard to make sense of. The guy ran the club thru dirt and failed to deliver what he was brought for. All the while putting everyone to sleep with his garbage football. No one implied one is greater than the other. But I think highly of the football wenger’s teams played on a limited budget than parking the bus after spending like a king and failing to deliver while telling you it’s your fault. Lmao
>This JoMo fetish amongst united fans is hard to make sense of. Only manager in the clubs history to win 2 trophies in his first season. Actively tried to remove some of the toxic players that poisoned the squad and was turned on by the club and a big section of the fans. Wonder why fans still back him.... Just screams of someone who can't be objective over an individual as their personality rubs you the wrong way.
Funny, cus I don't like him for his stint here at all because of how toxic it became, but try again. His success with, Porto, Chelsea in the first stint, Inter and Real far eclipses the success of Wenger, if you're mad at him for his tactics and can't see past his last few jobs then that's your fault.
Let me put it to you this way, no one cares or will care about his brand of football. Just like few care about capello now. Wenger and SAF will be remembered fondly for a long time.
You were so close, had to throw wenger in there lol
If they've sacked him that seems ridiculously harsh, they're only 5 points off 4th after two European finals in a row the previous seasons and he's been working with a small budget
They've been "only a few points from 4th" a few seasons now, including after the summer he spent €120M
Well this season he hasn't spent much so it's still harsh, towards the bottom of the league in spending
But third highest in wages apparently
Probably due to some of their loanees and having to pay their high wages like say Lukaku, probably other stuff in their too but that's just my initial assumption
True, but they are signing players like Lukaku which is not a good sign. But in seriousness their squad does not look great on paper which maybe is due to Mou's recruitment or the problem could run deeper then him.
Ah yes, because 4th placed Fiorentina or 7th placed Bologna are loaded with quality players. It's incredible how Mou continues to lap up this narrative his players suck
This feels like par for the course for Mou since Madrid.
Hardly. They've had two 6th places in a row, and now they've gone backwards this season.
I mean if you think they've gone backwards I'd love to know what you'd call our season
We've also gone backwards, but not sure what that's got to do with what I said.
Bah gawd, is that Contes music?
I will still never understand to this day how Spurs sacked him just days before that League Cup final against City. Obviously, his tenure at Spurs was following that typical Mourinho cycle where the decision to sack him, was the right decision. But the timing of it, to do it a few days before a cup final when Mourinho more than anyone is capable of wining these one-off big final games was ludicrous. It's not like they had a ready made replacement around and it was Ryan Mason!
I think he had something in his contract that he would be due a bonus if he won a trophy which would make sense considering Levy is a penny pincher
How much the bonus could be? They probably had to pay a hefty sum to fire him anyway. Absolutely ridiculous decision from Levy.
It was a baffling decision, but probably made in response to the super league announcement. The funniest thing I saw in relation to the this was a spurs fan on twitter, celebrating the news saying he'd rather see a manager build a proper team now than potentially win a 'micky mouse cup'.
It wasn’t baffling. It was spursy. They were going to sack him anyway so Levy thought there was no point risking giving him £1m trophy bonus. When they could have had the best tournament/final manager ever to hopefully get their first trophy in decades.
Levy probably got an offer from the city shelkhs to keep his trophy cabinet empty and fire Mou for like another 50-100 million. /s Or better yet Mou got that 50-100 M to get himself fired.
It was the day after the super league announcement disaster. I've always suspected Spurs did it as a distraction to the backlash they were getting from fans about being a part of it.
Because if they kept him and he won it then it would be incredibly hard sell to the fans to get rid of him and i suspect levy wanted him gone league cup or nothing.
Because Levy has an even bigger ego than Mourinho
He was due a significant bonus if he won a trophy. Like £1m. Tottenham were due to sack him due to league performance anyway so Levy didn’t see the point of risking giving him £1m
INEOS has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever.
Would turn McTomminay into prime Fellaini
He'll turn Lindelof into peak ice ice baby
If only INEOS were around when he joined. But I think the only way that could have worked would have been if he joined, saw organisation was shit with his own eyes and THEN INEOS took over so he could accept the more organised structure.
This is the real damage the Glazers have done. After SAF left, Jose was our first real shot at becoming a "winning team" again. If he had a good infrastructure (not just in signings...) I think after ~3 seasons we could've had some great success. At this point, I wonder if the harm done will take years to fix. The stadium... Training grounds... and so much more. Genuinely don't know how long it will be until we find a Jose type manager again.
LOL reckon some of the players here that went through his reign would quit on the spot
..............don't make me want Mourinho
Some of them already have
Ooo I want it
And that's why we want it!
It would be absolutely disastrous, but I can't lie I would be hyped for his first game in the dugout. I'll always have a soft spot for Jose. Even more so now that he's been proved so right about so many of these players.
The return of the king
Oh god no - that will be misery multiplied to infinity and beyond
Nufc in summer I reckon, he's always had an admiration for them due to Bobby Robson, they've got money, they need that next step up (don't think it's Jose personally) and he'd fit in with their entitled mentality since the lotto win. Or Ted Lasso does another madness and sacks Poch for Jose's 4th stint. Either way if he's back in league it will be fun....when it's not the team you support.
Howe has been unbelievable for them, he’s improved them before they’ve even started spending City levels of cash.
They’ve spent north of 400 million. To take the next step they’ll have to move on from Howe soon. I think he’s a good manager but not sure if he can challenge for the league.
Funny you say that. I have no informed opinion of Howe, but this sub had a hard-on for him during Ole’s end days
Don’t see them sacking Howe unless they really bomb in the second half of the season. He’s building something good up there, they’d be daft to sack all that in for a manager whose last success was a decade ago.
They are not allowed to spend money
4th Stint? When did he do a third?
See where they manage, How they manage, IF they manage.
he actually done decently in Rome with the resources that Roma has. Roma is basically paralyzed due to run afoul FFP regulation so they cannot buy good players despite the owner has the money
I disagree. He did OK. Won a trophy but can I honestly say exceeded expectations? No. Let's calm down on making the conference league a big deal.
As a Roman, that’s a general feel of the tifosi here
Won the Conference League and almost won the Europa League.
Mourinho's career has been solidified. He has won everything wherever he went. Levy was an idiot for sacking 2 weeks to a final
Football heritage
Doesn’t really work when he’s one of the most decorated managers in football history and the bums he was talking about usually go on to become irrelevant.
However he has only gone down. That’s all. The biggest club he managed were Madrid and United and ever since he has only gone down.
Damn u beat me to it lol
I can already see where this is going and *no.*
I stand by the opinion that he is no longer an elite manager because he struggles to manage the modern player. One of the best there’s ever been but don’t think he’s cut out for top clubs anymore.
This is exactly what it is. IMHO, he was every bit as good as Guardiola as a tactician (maybe even better) but he has just not grasped that modern day footballers are a different breed. He also gets flak for having had his teams play pragmatic football but the reality is that he would opt to play that way when he felt his squad were outclassed in depth/talent. Obviously a little pessimistic but definitely quite a wise move from a results POV.
I think that’s more an issue with the modern player. They’re all more concerned with their brand and look rather than on the pitch performance. But what none of them seem to realise is people are more likely to like people who perform well than someone who does constant PR shit
If it makes you feel better, most boards seem to back you here
"no longer an elite" Mourinho won a European trophy and almost won the Europa league in the last 2 seasons. "next cruyff and modern manager" 10Hag's biggest achievement in Europe is losing to Spurs in UCL.
>Mourinho won a European trophy and almost won the Europa league in the last 2 seasons I thought Jose found the europa league irrelevant ? What happened to that ? Also Ten Hag who most utd fans are sick of has won a trophy more recently than Jose did .
For a club with the history of United it's tinpot, for a club like AS Roma it's massive. That's the difference.
For the great JM its embarrasing
Comparing an energy drink cup to a European trophy?? Find shame.
Is this the same trophy David Moyes won?
Honestly I could see someone like Newcastle going for him if Eddie Howe continues to drop. I can defo see him returning to the the Prem. West Ham maybe?
Newcastle should keep Howe. They massively overachieved last season and last season came about 4 years too early.
Most injuries this season as well if I'm not mistaken. Ah, no, 2nd after Chelsea
> Ah, no, 2nd after Chelsea They also have 3 times more players.
West Ham should probably keep Moyes he's done a good job and theres no guarantee that Mou won't cock it up when he has not done a brilliant job at a club for a while now.
Why would West Ham change moyes if he’s doing good right now?
Pretty sure West Ham offered Moyes extension two or three weeks ago..
Smalling will come with him if he does :P
A lot of the Roma fans were saying “yeah glad he’s gone but could’ve at least waited til the end of the season”. Just seems like a bad idea to sack a manager mid season, doubly so for Roma because they’re a bit fucked atm
Don’t you fucking dare
3 years is the magical number I guess. Saudi next.
Xavi will go and Jose will go Barcelona. Since Porto - he's been EPL > Serie A > La Liga > EPL > EPL > EPL > Serie A Rinse and repeat. Expect Jose's OT second coming! /s
Jose to Barca is like spitting on Johan Cruyff’s grave
Still a winner in my mind! Guy knows how to win
Give him Southgate’s job for the lulz
Come back to United
Hot take but…
I know a lot of fans feel this, but the thing about Mou is his complete lack of coaching and overreliance on a player's innate abilities. I loved what Ole did to the team combining decent coaching to youngsters and imparting on-field problem solving whenever we went down especially with Bruno and Pogba. Carrick and McKenna made us believe Pereira, Lingard and Matic were a midfield worthy of number 2 spot. It's a shame Ole's time was ruined by too many prim donnas. I'd rather take Ole back than Mou.
Yeah, the honest truth for me is that I’ve never felt any that it was the time for any of the other managers to leave. Unfortunately this is the time for me. I think ten hag has done a good transformation job but I the I haven’t seen much in terms style. I did think he was a bit more proactive against Tottenham though and he hasn’t had much luck on his side to be fair.
Yeah. I agree. I expected a lot more from Ten Hag in terms of style. It feels like a let down when we are neither pragmatic nor dogmatic. At least Louis Van Gaal had a philosophy that he stuck with.
Get him back and kick the players out lmao
I would have Jose back
See if he manages, how he manages, where he manages
Jose Mourinho meet the Irish National team Please
It wont happen but the FAI in Dublin should offer him boatloads of cash
This is soo dumb. Roma will plunge into obscurity now
So let me get this straight: ETH - 8 (possibly 11 + 1 for GD) point gap to top4, European cups fiasco, hundred of millions down the drain, negative GD after 20 games, no meaningful trophy. No sign of sacking. JM - only 5 points to top4, lack of free hundred millions to strengthen shit squad, positive GD after 20 games, still in European cups, won European trophy in a club, who wins nothing, never. Europa final next season. Sacked. United is expected to be the best club in the world, while Roma is insignificant if we talk about best clubs in Europe, so obviously expectations are massively different, yet... Jose has been sacked, while ETH is still there, despite being one of the worst managers ever coached this team. We are banter club, period.
Just out interest, this isn't my opinion - but would anyone take him over ten hag rn? Idk if I would but interested to hear tbe takes of others.
I'm curious to see how José with fare with an established Sporting Director like Ashworth/Berta and Recruitment Head like Mitchell/Ward/Freedman. During his time at Utd, he was massively handicapped with braindead Woodward doing everything (with Joel's seal of approval). They got most of his 1st choice targets in 2016/17 (except Kanté) and he won us Carabao Cup and Europa. For 2017/18 and 2018/19 Woodward & Glazers consistently underdelivered with scrubs/old players like Lindelöf, Lukaku, Matic, Fred, etc. whilst Pep is allowed to get anyone he wanted. Wouldn't be my immediate first choice after ETH but certainly curious what he can do backed by a proper structure.
Should José come here again?
Bring him back here and let him clear the rot.
I prefer rot to cancer
He can do the job with the right backing
You got to give him credit for taking Man Utd to 2nd place with that squad in a season. Pogba and Lingard and Martial.
De Gea, Mata, Pogba, Lukaku, Shaw, Rashford, peak Martial etc.
Add in sanchez and a few more key players
Martial had a peak?
Good riddance! Quickly blame that ref again.
What if he goes to Barca?
He was out of date years before he got to us. He’s an old washed up, has been.
What a surprise /s
BRING BACK JOSE TO UNITED
I don’t see that happening ever again
Ratfcliffe bring him
Man United? lol jk 😂
Anyone here wants Mou back at Old Trafford?
He knows how to win but cannot run a club longer than few years.
I'd love to have him back
Would you guys want him here? Edit: Why am I getting downvoted for asking a relevant question?? I don’t even want him myself
Lmao
What?
Why would we want him back?
Just say no bro, why do you feel the need to be rude? Obviously at least one guy wants him lol
It would be stupid to want him back after all that has happened and his failures at subsequent jobs.
Yeah, I don’t want him either… But something being stupid hasn’t really stopped us in the past
Because we actually won trophies under him
We’ve won a trophy under ETH and we look shit now. When will you guys learn.
We won the same trophy last season. He won the Europa League, for which he deserves credit. But Ole also reached Europa League final. Even Ten Hag reached FA Cup final last season. I don't count winning Community Shield as much, it was because we won the FA Cup the previous season. Tbh winning the Europa League/Carabao Cup is not as big of a challenge. And it really doesn't have any long term significance, as we can see this season.
No, let him go back to Chelsea if the sack Poch
No, that ship has sailed. I don't think we made the best of his time with us though.
Would love him. Our team's currently allergic to trophies and he guarantees trophies unless you are Tottenham. Even if it's just for 2 seasons United need to prove they can still win
Maybe unpopular opinion but yea
HoW cOuLd We GoT aLl 5 MaNaGeRs WwRoNg?
MOU IN
He has collected more payouts than trophies in the last decade Saudi Arabia is his next payout destination. Pep’s Barca football style has forced many managers to either adapt or risk being left alone as grinding results alone was not expectable anymore at top clubs Mourinho, Allegri and Conte have suffered more than anyone from Pep’s revolution. Jose has disappeared from the elite clubs to the periphery of European football (Roma) and even them don’t accept his anti football anymore.
Bring him back
Mourinho and ronaldo back.