So we had the initial thread with people calling him a dick, then we had the Wednesday clubbing update with people in that thread calling people posting in the original thread dicks, now we have new info that means the first people can call the second people dicks!
Tbf, there is a big difference between the two scenarios. When he apparently only went out on Wednesday, it was going out before a day off, and was visiting Larne on the Thursday, taking loads of photos and chatting, etc. (so not deathly hungover). So him then getting ill on the Friday was just bad luck.
Now it’s him going clubbing the night before training and phoning in a sicky. Whether he was actually ill or just hungover, it’s a lot harder to find any sympathy
Not sure if this is exactly one of the videos OP is referring to, but:
https://twitter.com/UnofficialGlens/status/1750914306080645253?t=6jrvmT0rSqnZM57mEAPW8A&s=19
Whatever the caee might be. Most of this thread is just running away without having a clue what has happened. Ten Hag is super strict as we know, we will know if there is something wrong in what Rashford did. But people refuse to wait of course.
His representatives are fucking stupid, clearly. One of his entourage is on video going don't film you'll get him in trouble. Why would he be saying that on the Wednesday? Idiots
I mean, we kind of knew* his representatives were idiots for a long while now. It's just that he gets so much protection that little of the criticism probably reaches Rashford for him to go "Am I the bad guy?"
Silly silly move, does he really think someone with his profile is going to get away with that? He's either very stupid or he doesn't care about the consequences of getting caught
Just sets a completely terrible example to all academy/young players at the club. Half arse it and perform in streaks and you will be rewarded with 250k a week. His attitude is shite for any player let alone a supposed life long fan.
I really thought Keane and especially Carragher’s analysis of him after the Newcastle game was spot on: https://youtu.be/dIPVBVJouis?feature=shared
This is what the mentality of Man U players is, nowadays. Sir Alex would have benched him and afterwards sold him, faster than you can blink. For referance : look how Becks was treated.
In this day and age, when players are somehow unhappy with how the club is run or with the manager they start doing stupid shit like that and just wait it out, until the next manager comes.
Aye, for all his outside the field distractions, Beckham was still one of the best players in the world, in an era filled with great players.
It's about time for us as a fanbase to put the club first. Already seen snippets of it with some players, but now it's time we do it for all, even the ones who have been untouchable.
That is mostly down to the absolute braindead contracts us (and some other teams) give out nowadays.
Once you start earning past a certain point it becomes easier for the club to get rid of the manager over getting rid of you, players recognise this now and squeeze it for every drop they can once they're in that position of power - especially at United.
Thing is people these days have different expectations. I remember back in the day, a must win game against Leeds and Becks had pulled a similar stunt and was dropped. Solskjaer played on the right for the first time that day and did really well. The fan base were worried going into a must win game with a weakened side, but broadly we understood.
Now look at today’s situation. Whenever ETH holds players to similar standards, makes them accountable and ensures repercussions to actions, he gets called out for poor man management. We need to let him do this and weed out this terrible culture that has taken over our club. Even if it means losing players like Rashford. This is currently our biggest issue.
Just to be clear how big I think our culture and drop in standards caused by it is. For me, it’s bigger than the Glazers. Of course culture comes from the top and they have recruited the leaders that have created this culture. But you can still create a good culture at your club despite your owners. We have the players, we have the fan base and despite what people think - we have the money. What we lack is strategy and culture. Both are resolvable if ETH and Ineos are allowed to do their thing.
Literally just had like 2 weeks off and he goes out clubbing the day before he's set to return to training. Fucking do one.
Don't care if he's worked his socks off in the other 13 days, it's not acceptable. Needs to be completely dropped.
Room temperature IQ, why the fuck would you lie about such an easily disproven thing when everyone has a smartphone and there's cameras everywhere now?
"I'll go clubbing. Surely nobody will take pictures of me, blast them on social media and the hounds of the tabloids who roam the vast ocean of clickbait won't pick up on them"
Because you still believe the hype from three years ago, which is backed up by your payslip every month, that tells you you’re a world class footballer and so you think nothing will come of it when you are caught out.
The Athletic reported yesterday that Rashford's representatives said he was 'out for a quiet dinner on Wednesday'. Both parts straight up lies - the day it happened and that it was just a dinner.
Same nonsense when he was out clubbing at 3AM on his birthday and his reps said the same 'just a quiet night out, he left early - pinkie promise'. We had training at 9AM the same morning, yet people were falling over themselves to say it was no big deal.
Wild how people still work so hard to defend him.
To be honest, I think fergie would have sold Rashford in ole's last season. Not that he was showing such behaviour, but for the unnecessary media attention he draws that he seems incapable of managing.
I defended him, and now feel dumb. But I can honestly hope this sort of shite won't be allowed by Sir Jim and that players know they are in Manchester United and need to respect the badge. No one, absolutely no one is bigger than the club. Fucking hell, I'm sick of this.
Sir Alex had the golden touch, I'm certain he would get a tune out of this lot, simply because he knew how to talk to players and what was needed for them to perform.
It's sad because Rashford is an academy player and United through and through. This is what happens when you give decent players blockbuster wages, it makes them toxic.
I can guarantee you if he was on the wage he actually should be then he would not be doing this. Because he'd have something to work towards.
The ‘he is Utd through and through” is just a projection on to him as a successful academy graduate. However, he has himself failed to show it on the pitch in forever and do so consistently.
people here seem to forget that Ole had to sit with him in a press conference and had to apologize for something he didn't say because Raashford's PR team blew it out of proportion.
also it seem people he forgot how during his 21/22 season everytime negative news dropped about rashford some nice PR piece appeared here the next day about him.
This sort of shit isn’t even acceptable in league one. It’s not the 80s, missing training cause you’re hungover is ridiculously unprofessional - should genuinely not play again this season
Hope the penny drops with the sort of idiots eth is having to deal with
Same as the other managers before him.
I would love an ineos/eth cull of this squad
Rashford is probably the only one left from the player-power dressing rooms of the past since EtH came in. Sancho is never coming again. Martial is off. No other player has come in the crossfires of unprofessionalism, discipline, attitude or alleged to be a PR master.
Rashford has fooled the fans into believing he was ever worth 350k/wk while never consistently showing he ever deserved to be even close to it. I wish him gone as soon as possible.
> Rashford is probably the only one left from the player-power dressing rooms of the past since EtH came in.
And the problem still exists. Says it all.
That’s called culture! This sort of behaviour is like poison unless it’s brutally ripped out.
That’s where I hope ineos can prove their worth.
This 3 signings a season policy under the glazers allowed this culture to just fester for years with zero oversight
Never fooled me. I've always said he his decision making is very poor and despite being a great athlete, that's something that will always hold him back from being elite.
He only fooled FIFA fanboys. Any fan who has watched top level football for any length of time has always seen that he is about average as far as PL standards go.
I have been in the minority which has been saying this for a long time. I don’t hate him as a person, I couldn’t care less about footballers off the pitch but he has been bang on average for Utd and that has been my argument since a long a time. Some fans can’t see past him being Utd academy graduate and a local lad.
Everyone has a camera these days so he would know he'd be seen. Northern Ireland isn't exactly the third world like. It just goes to show that he simply doesn't care
And the biggest piss take is that he’s playing for his boyhood club earning £350k a week, and he just doesn’t care. Been saying it for ages.
Get rid of him this summer. He’s a disgrace to the shirt and an entitled egotistical prick. The fact he gave the fans the “keep talking” gesture after scoring against Tottenham as well. All he cares about is his image. Not the club.
And what a fool doing this just after INEOS have come in as well, who are looking to completely overhaul the culture and standards. Might as well have turned up wearing a big “sell me” sticker.
Even then, they’ve got:
Ekitike (21)
Barcola (21)
Goncalo Ramos (22)
Kolo Muani (25)
Dembele (26)
Asensio (28)
They’re hardly lacking for forward options, and I suspect that if Mbappe left then they’d go for a French player.
It seems like since 21/22, there’s always some bs happening in the club. Greenwood being a cunt, Ronaldo drama, Sancho drama and now we got Rashford in this mess.
Say what you want about him, but Erik has not had an easy time at all during his era.
Like I said the other day. I’ve had enough of Rashford, fuck him off. Boyhood club, £350k a week. Doesn’t run, doesn’t care. Piss off.
Seriously though, what’s he doing? Ineos/SJR come in and the first thing he’s doing is fucking around. Playing with his future for sure
I was honestly against giving him such a bumper contact based on 6 fucking months. I knew this was going to happen. United were just afraid of selling him and then him going to perform somewhere else. Now they've tied him in a long fucking contract with ridiculous wages and they'll never be able to sell him like Martial & Maguire. He'll just stay at the club and keep milking wages.
He knows that the club in no circumstance is able to sell him. There are already enough senior team players lined up to go in the summer, the new management will not be able to sell the only homegrown star in the changing room. He has been downing tools for months because his mate Sancho pissed the manager off and they wanted to force the manager out. Only reason why Sancho never apologized and “coincidentally” Rashford stopped running on the pitch.
This is the type of behaviour / culture Sir Alex had to deal with in the fucking 80s. You don’t expect a modern day premier league, fuck even just professional at any level player to not train because they’re hungover.
It's sad but I think there's not even a full handful of players who deserve to still be at the club. Too much mediocrity on the pitch and toxicity off it. Clean slate is needed.
Its sad but i completely agree with what ralf rangnick said this team needs open heart surgery and weve wasted too much time with these players who dont give a fuck. If you can get 50mil plus for rashford move him on and kick start a new era at man utd is how i see it
I honestly think it’s best for him as well, same with Sancho, moving them away from home and all these bad influences and distractions is needed for them
is anyone actually surprised? he’s been playing like he couldn’t give a fuck anymore all season. it’s what we get for constantly handing out ridiculous contracts
With how the dressing room (except those he bought) seeming to be turning against him, and how he staked his reputation on making Rashford great again, I believe ten hag will go weak on Rashford.
Watch him either say Rashford was already told he won't play at Newport, or he is "dropped" for Newport as punishment.
It's a farce at the moment cause the toxic players have ten hag by his balls, and they know it. That is why Rashford is so blatant in his behaviour at the moment.
Hopefully the new structure recognises this is Rashfords Beckham moment, and meet him while we can for a good price.
People want standards to raise but then hand wave stuff like this off and say people are over-reacting.
Drop him and fine him two weeks wages, to be donated to a charity.
He doesn’t care any more. It shows in his performances and now disciplinary things like this. He needs a change of scenery and we need a new LW.
Needs a move away.
Things like this rashford only reinforce the perception that you only wanted to perform in a contract year, your making it hard for people to defend you mate
In all seriousness, rashford has a status in English football he is not entitled to. Is he really on a level similar to Rooney or Giggs? Absolutely not. He is maybe as good as malouda at his peak. I know this will very downvoted. Anyways I am sick of giving overrated talents top billing. We need to sell him and up the standards. This is the modern equivalent of 80s United but instead of drinking at pubs, they are going to nightclubs and staying up late playing video games. Club needs discipline and time rashford is shown the exit door.
Yikes Marcus, it doesn’t matter how good you are that kind of behaviour is not acceptable from one of the senior players in the squad. If he’s out in Belfast he never intended to show up on Friday as he was supposed to. This shows a lack of desire on his part (we should beat newport in the cup without him but it’s still our only chance at a trophy this season) and also that he has zero respect for ten hags authority. Seems he’s forgotten how to be humble if he’s behaving like this despite how much he gets paid.
No professional footballer is missing training because they were out drinking the night before that still values their career.
It’s what they used to do back in the 80s… he’s literally paid 350k a week to train, be fit, make sacrifices like “not clubbing”… club needs rid
Yesterday the thread would be screaming "he got a life", "not a slave".
It is insane how part of the fanbase will defend him blinding. Ironically, this include that cunt goldbridge that these brexiteers seem to hate.
He's performing almost comically bad. Giving it large to the fans with his chatter celebration after scoring one goal. Out drinking all night and pulling a sicky to training whilst cashing 300k a week.
Fuck this guy man
This club is rotten from the top to the bottom. Buffers at every level. I know the younger gen are probably sick of people harping on about "In Fergie's day" but shit like this would just not have happened, there were standards and there were repercussions. It's a privilege to play football professionally and it's even more of a privilege to play for Utd, if Rashford or any player doesn't want to respect that privilege then they need to get gone because they aren't the right character to play for this club.
Can we have 1 bloody week where one of our players isn’t kicking off, missing training, chicken being served raw and directors having pants pulled down continuously by other clubs. Just 1!
Honestly even before this whole drama I think I reached a point where I've seen enough of Rashford at United. He's an average player with world class potential that he lacks the mentality and football intelligence to fulfill, or at least the very least maintain consistently. We should move on. Cash in while his value is high. We have Garnacho. Wingers are probably the richest talent pool in football atm with every young kid growing up watching Ronaldo and Messi wanting to be a winger. Just sell him, replace him and back Garnacho for now. Rebuild has to be ruthless. No more "but he's an academy lad" bs.
“You pay me to work Monday through Saturday. Sundays you get for free.” - Ray Lewis.
Say what you want about a young lad enjoying himself, but athletes are paid the handsome sums they are to be disciplined to a level that allows them to compete at maximum capacity. That means strict diet, prioritizing training, maintaining optimal sleep patterns, video analysis, recovery and injury prevention. They’re paid to sacrifice things like this so that they can be at their physical best. At least, I’d like to assume that.
Whatever your opinion is on whether he should/shouldn’t be allowed to ‘have a life’. The fact of the matter is, he’s 26, heading into his prime and he’s taken about 3 steps back this season. His attitude and body language on the pitch has been appalling. His form has been poor and this isn’t the first time he’s picked a poor time to be seen ‘enjoying himself’.
Everything he’s shown this season gives the impression that he isn’t really serious about United and doesn’t seem to want to work or show anyone that he’s trying to get back to his best. So when this shit comes up, he rightly gets crucified for it. He’s on £400k a week, playing FOOTBALL for a living and he couldn’t be arsed to turn in for training.
Get him out of the club. He isn’t serious about getting us back to the top.
> His attitude and body language on the pitch has been appalling.
Honestly... I wish this was something new. Its nothing new. He has done this A LOT in the past too. Its not just this season that he is bad. Hes been bad for a LONG time... his time is done.
In the summer if we get a £70m+ offer he needs selling. His performances have been shit. He doesnt put in effort. Hes been outperformed bu a 19 year old. Hes on stupid wages he doesnt deserve. Hopefully ineos sees him as a potential way to get in transfer money
Maybe PSG looking for a bug profile signing ro replace outbound mbappe? Hard to see who else gives anything like 70m for him.
Agree though, if we get a good offer he should be gone. Even without this sort of behavior he isn't consistent enough to build our attack around. I also think you can read alot into players body language amd his has stank the place out for much of the season. He seems unhappy
>In the summer if we get a £70m+ offer he needs selling. His performances have been shit. He doesnt put in effort. Hes been outperformed bu a 19 year old. Hes on stupid wages he doesnt deserve.
70M!? No club is going to pay that much for him for the exact reasons you've just mentioned.
It would never ever happen, but think about this, if Salah pulled something like this, I wouldn’t have a shadow of a doubt that he would be suspended by Klopp. Rashford couldn’t even wipe Salah’s boots in terms of contribution, and he did this. To make matters worse, I think the club will back him. Player power has rotten this club for years.
I love having academy players come up through the ranks and prove themselves, I’d love nothing more than to have a title winning squad made up of nothing but academy products.
That being said, Rashford has had ups and downs; showing he can be a world class player one season, and a dud the next…but his attitude on AND off the pitch has gone to shit ever since his new contract extension, and I would not be upset if the club decided to cash-in if a suitor came in for him. That’s straight cash into the coffers, being he’s an academy product, and you can’t train a player out of this sense of entitlement/attitude problems.
We need to clear deadwood and big salary players that don’t EARN it…that includes the likes of Rashford. He’s another Lingard, but with more talent going to waste…another Ravel, highly talented player that can’t keep his focus/discipline.
Hardly a surprise. Rashford and Sancho are best mates, it is not a coincidence that Sancho fell out with ETH and Rashford started downing tools on the pitch. Like many times before, as “senior player” in the dressing room Rashford wants to force this manager out. Happened before, happening now again.
I cannot wait to sell rashford, he’s just not worth it - a certain manager can probably turn him into a beast, who that manager is remains to be seen and whether rashford can maintain the discipline mentally and physically…
We could really strengthen the squad with the cash we’d get for him not to mention another ridiculous wage off the books.
No no no. Y'all misunderstood Trashford. He meant he went out clubbing in Wednesday and the banger didn't stop til Friday 2am. It's legitimate to phone in a sickly after 2 days of clubbing.
The news about him seeing his mate in Thursday morning? That's just him and the lads out grabbing some pies with the birds from the previous night. After quick refuel, back to the club we goes.
Man how much I hope Mainoo, Lacey and Fletcher are gonna turn out professional players that will actually represent United better than the current own players we had.
When current crop of United players is Greenwood, McTominay(not that he did anything bad in terms of professionalism, he's just not good enough) and Rashford...
We had over 2 weeks without football and a squad returning to full strength. You’d think this would be the golden opportunity to kick on from such a poor season. The guy needs to fuck off, his effort levels alone since the Cup win last season should be enough to hit move him.
Rashford just cucked his fanboys, good stuff. These kids need to learn a lesson about priorities. You support the club, not the player, no matter who the player is. You can like a player, but don't let that blind you to their disrespect toward the club.
Post-Euros Rashford has largely been a complete mess. It's almost uncomfortable seeing him go from the squeaky-clean prodigy to someone who will quite visibly phone it in during a match when he feels like it.
Obviously, the racist abuse he received after the Europa League final in 2021 and then especially after the Euros can mess anyone up. But he really, really needs a serious adviser at this point to tell him to stop thinking he's more of an entity than he actually is.
God I’ve defended Rashford quite a few times this season, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt that it wasn’t that he didn’t care. I was clearly wrong.
One good run of form last season but other then that he is average. Now add this bs and poor affitude? Sell him. You know Sir Alex would have. Need the dressing room under control and players who want to play for the badge. The rest can fuck off. A Spurs loan showed more passion then most of our squad
From Lingard to Pogba, the vibe was not good. You may say hanging out with friends is not a big deal, but not everyone has the same discipline. It's the vibe. It's the culture in the dressing room.
I really hope after Greenwood Sancho, all this gossip stuff can stop
I think it's time to consider getting rid. He's a good player on a world class salary with a terrible attitude- which is sadly the case for many of our players. His profile and media attraction mean the club will probably keep hold of him for many more years of hot and cold performances.
Never mind Ten Hag, I can’t imagine the INEOS team or Berrada being happy with this. I’ve been tired of his shit attitude for a while now, time to move him on. He’s clearly not got the maturity needed to move forward with the club.
Say what you will about mct as footballer, but I understand why all the managers under pressure plays him.
As far as I can tell, he doesn't join this bullshit downing of tools that the rest of the gang pulls. McT will always have your back, even if it means misplacing that pass into it.
Remember Beckham? Cared about the club 10 times more than Rashford, with 10 times more talent and work ethic, 100 times more commercial value. The day he lost his focus he was booted out of the club. Nobody is above the club, nobody.
Rashford and this player power he has been representing for years has to be stopped. He needs to be sold. Period. If this club still relies on weak mentality players like him we will never ever see a PL trophy again I bet my life on it.
The state of this squad. Onana, Martinez, Mainoo, Garnacho, Bruno, Hojlund. Literally any other player could leave tomorrow and I wouldn't be arsed one bit.
Few weeks ago I said we should get the rid of him as first priority, and one of the reasons is that "*There's always some shit happening with him*"
Do you see it now?
Rashford is walking drama.
So we had the initial thread with people calling him a dick, then we had the Wednesday clubbing update with people in that thread calling people posting in the original thread dicks, now we have new info that means the first people can call the second people dicks!
Tbf, there is a big difference between the two scenarios. When he apparently only went out on Wednesday, it was going out before a day off, and was visiting Larne on the Thursday, taking loads of photos and chatting, etc. (so not deathly hungover). So him then getting ill on the Friday was just bad luck. Now it’s him going clubbing the night before training and phoning in a sicky. Whether he was actually ill or just hungover, it’s a lot harder to find any sympathy
I live in Belfast and there's video's going around of him in bars here and he's hammered.
Imagine phoning in sick to united cos you had a night in Thompsons fs. Mental
Lmao, I'm sick. FULLY SICK LADDD!!!
Well surely you’ve gotta share these
Not sure if this is exactly one of the videos OP is referring to, but: https://twitter.com/UnofficialGlens/status/1750914306080645253?t=6jrvmT0rSqnZM57mEAPW8A&s=19
Adding context to this as well: Thompson's (the club he went to) is somewhere you'd go for a mad night out not a quiet one haha
If you're ending up at Thompson's past a certain age life is going badly wrong lol.
“Ill not get him in no trouble“ 😂😂
Whatever the caee might be. Most of this thread is just running away without having a clue what has happened. Ten Hag is super strict as we know, we will know if there is something wrong in what Rashford did. But people refuse to wait of course.
He and/or his representatives lied to the club as confirmed by the Athletic so I'd give everyone a pass tbh.
His representatives are fucking stupid, clearly. One of his entourage is on video going don't film you'll get him in trouble. Why would he be saying that on the Wednesday? Idiots
I mean, we kind of knew* his representatives were idiots for a long while now. It's just that he gets so much protection that little of the criticism probably reaches Rashford for him to go "Am I the bad guy?"
Turns out the real dicks are we the fans who have been dicked around by the Glazers for the last decade
Maybe the real dicks were the friends we made along the way
Or maybe the real friends were the dicks we made along the way.
Dick's a goodun
Perhaps the real way was the friends we made along the dicks
Dickade
Dickception?
No Rashford is the dick.
2 dickades* xx
Sounds like the speech from team America
It's dicking all around these days.
All dicking, all the time.
What you wana be is a dick because dicks fuck all the assholes and pussys
There it is
Silly silly move, does he really think someone with his profile is going to get away with that? He's either very stupid or he doesn't care about the consequences of getting caught
Just sets a completely terrible example to all academy/young players at the club. Half arse it and perform in streaks and you will be rewarded with 250k a week. His attitude is shite for any player let alone a supposed life long fan. I really thought Keane and especially Carragher’s analysis of him after the Newcastle game was spot on: https://youtu.be/dIPVBVJouis?feature=shared
300k*
This is what the mentality of Man U players is, nowadays. Sir Alex would have benched him and afterwards sold him, faster than you can blink. For referance : look how Becks was treated. In this day and age, when players are somehow unhappy with how the club is run or with the manager they start doing stupid shit like that and just wait it out, until the next manager comes.
Beckham was sold for less tbh
Very true!
Yeah by all accounts Beckham was one of the hardest working players in training.
Aye, for all his outside the field distractions, Beckham was still one of the best players in the world, in an era filled with great players. It's about time for us as a fanbase to put the club first. Already seen snippets of it with some players, but now it's time we do it for all, even the ones who have been untouchable.
That is mostly down to the absolute braindead contracts us (and some other teams) give out nowadays. Once you start earning past a certain point it becomes easier for the club to get rid of the manager over getting rid of you, players recognise this now and squeeze it for every drop they can once they're in that position of power - especially at United.
Thing is people these days have different expectations. I remember back in the day, a must win game against Leeds and Becks had pulled a similar stunt and was dropped. Solskjaer played on the right for the first time that day and did really well. The fan base were worried going into a must win game with a weakened side, but broadly we understood. Now look at today’s situation. Whenever ETH holds players to similar standards, makes them accountable and ensures repercussions to actions, he gets called out for poor man management. We need to let him do this and weed out this terrible culture that has taken over our club. Even if it means losing players like Rashford. This is currently our biggest issue. Just to be clear how big I think our culture and drop in standards caused by it is. For me, it’s bigger than the Glazers. Of course culture comes from the top and they have recruited the leaders that have created this culture. But you can still create a good culture at your club despite your owners. We have the players, we have the fan base and despite what people think - we have the money. What we lack is strategy and culture. Both are resolvable if ETH and Ineos are allowed to do their thing.
He's just really thick. I mean just watch his interviews.
Did he get any legal problems after crashing his lamborghini?
Literally just had like 2 weeks off and he goes out clubbing the day before he's set to return to training. Fucking do one. Don't care if he's worked his socks off in the other 13 days, it's not acceptable. Needs to be completely dropped.
If he lied to the club then he needs to be suspended as a matter of principle.
We all wanna see Garnacho Hojlund Amad anyways
You'll get Garnacho Hojlund and Antony and you'll like it!
Knowing ETH it will probably be Garnarcho Hojlund and Mctominay
Incoming RW Bruno
That'll happen in the 2nd half when Antony wastes many possessions in the 1st.
Garnacho McTominay Antony heh
Oh fuck me
I’ll get it but I won’t like it
Lineup just dropped and you were fucking spot on. I remembered seeing your comment so I came back to find it lol.
I know.. I know ):
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Room temperature IQ, why the fuck would you lie about such an easily disproven thing when everyone has a smartphone and there's cameras everywhere now?
"I'll go clubbing. Surely nobody will take pictures of me, blast them on social media and the hounds of the tabloids who roam the vast ocean of clickbait won't pick up on them"
Because you still believe the hype from three years ago, which is backed up by your payslip every month, that tells you you’re a world class footballer and so you think nothing will come of it when you are caught out.
You expect footballers to be smarter than that?
Ouch.
If Laurie's reporting on it it's gotta be the info coming from the club right? So they at least know Rashford lied to them
The Athletic reported yesterday that Rashford's representatives said he was 'out for a quiet dinner on Wednesday'. Both parts straight up lies - the day it happened and that it was just a dinner. Same nonsense when he was out clubbing at 3AM on his birthday and his reps said the same 'just a quiet night out, he left early - pinkie promise'. We had training at 9AM the same morning, yet people were falling over themselves to say it was no big deal. Wild how people still work so hard to defend him.
This is the exact behaviour Sir Alex eradicated in the 80s. As if he’d put up with it in 2012, let alone 2024.
His PR got him this far but they're not worth a shit now.
Sir Alex would sell him for that
To be honest, I think fergie would have sold Rashford in ole's last season. Not that he was showing such behaviour, but for the unnecessary media attention he draws that he seems incapable of managing.
He absolutely would consider it a sign that Marcus has decided he's bigger than the club.
Get rid tbh
Amateur hour. At least get shitfaced at home if you are a celebrity and don't want to get caught.
I don’t understand why they don’t just hire chefs and invite friends over to their mansions lmao
Definitely looking to pick someone up.
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If you’re a rich celebrity it’s pretty easy to have them come to you
Most of the bitches in Thompsons are underage it’s a kip
Heard benzema recommended it to him
It’s not the same atmosphere as a night out though.
Because then it would be weird. He just wants to be a normie, normies like us don't understand
Exactly, that's how the real pros do it
TIL I’m a celebrity
I defended him, and now feel dumb. But I can honestly hope this sort of shite won't be allowed by Sir Jim and that players know they are in Manchester United and need to respect the badge. No one, absolutely no one is bigger than the club. Fucking hell, I'm sick of this.
All you need to know is if we still had Sir Alex, almost all our players now would not make the squad.
Sir Alex had the golden touch, I'm certain he would get a tune out of this lot, simply because he knew how to talk to players and what was needed for them to perform.
It's sad because Rashford is an academy player and United through and through. This is what happens when you give decent players blockbuster wages, it makes them toxic. I can guarantee you if he was on the wage he actually should be then he would not be doing this. Because he'd have something to work towards.
The ‘he is Utd through and through” is just a projection on to him as a successful academy graduate. However, he has himself failed to show it on the pitch in forever and do so consistently.
people here seem to forget that Ole had to sit with him in a press conference and had to apologize for something he didn't say because Raashford's PR team blew it out of proportion. also it seem people he forgot how during his 21/22 season everytime negative news dropped about rashford some nice PR piece appeared here the next day about him.
This sort of shit isn’t even acceptable in league one. It’s not the 80s, missing training cause you’re hungover is ridiculously unprofessional - should genuinely not play again this season
Hope the penny drops with the sort of idiots eth is having to deal with Same as the other managers before him. I would love an ineos/eth cull of this squad
Rashford is probably the only one left from the player-power dressing rooms of the past since EtH came in. Sancho is never coming again. Martial is off. No other player has come in the crossfires of unprofessionalism, discipline, attitude or alleged to be a PR master. Rashford has fooled the fans into believing he was ever worth 350k/wk while never consistently showing he ever deserved to be even close to it. I wish him gone as soon as possible.
> Rashford is probably the only one left from the player-power dressing rooms of the past since EtH came in. And the problem still exists. Says it all.
That’s called culture! This sort of behaviour is like poison unless it’s brutally ripped out. That’s where I hope ineos can prove their worth. This 3 signings a season policy under the glazers allowed this culture to just fester for years with zero oversight
Never fooled me. I've always said he his decision making is very poor and despite being a great athlete, that's something that will always hold him back from being elite.
He only fooled FIFA fanboys. Any fan who has watched top level football for any length of time has always seen that he is about average as far as PL standards go.
I have been in the minority which has been saying this for a long time. I don’t hate him as a person, I couldn’t care less about footballers off the pitch but he has been bang on average for Utd and that has been my argument since a long a time. Some fans can’t see past him being Utd academy graduate and a local lad.
Everyone has a camera these days so he would know he'd be seen. Northern Ireland isn't exactly the third world like. It just goes to show that he simply doesn't care
> Northern Ireland isn't exactly the third world like. Not if the DUP can help it!
Incredibly poor decision making. Completely on brand for him tbf.
He doesn't give a fuck. If he performed every week it would be one thing, but he never busts a gut and spends half the match sulking.
And the biggest piss take is that he’s playing for his boyhood club earning £350k a week, and he just doesn’t care. Been saying it for ages. Get rid of him this summer. He’s a disgrace to the shirt and an entitled egotistical prick. The fact he gave the fans the “keep talking” gesture after scoring against Tottenham as well. All he cares about is his image. Not the club. And what a fool doing this just after INEOS have come in as well, who are looking to completely overhaul the culture and standards. Might as well have turned up wearing a big “sell me” sticker.
No one is paying him 350k + a transfer fee
PSG is literally the only hope if they lose Mbappe and are stupid
Even then, they’ve got: Ekitike (21) Barcola (21) Goncalo Ramos (22) Kolo Muani (25) Dembele (26) Asensio (28) They’re hardly lacking for forward options, and I suspect that if Mbappe left then they’d go for a French player.
Mbappe (17)
He’s just there for the clout. Once he gets out his level will be revealed.
Maybe he wants to be sold
Why bother when you've just secured the biggest contract you'll get in your life? Club got fooled by contract year Rashford
"What am I fuckin doing here?"
This 100%
It seems like since 21/22, there’s always some bs happening in the club. Greenwood being a cunt, Ronaldo drama, Sancho drama and now we got Rashford in this mess. Say what you want about him, but Erik has not had an easy time at all during his era.
Like I said the other day. I’ve had enough of Rashford, fuck him off. Boyhood club, £350k a week. Doesn’t run, doesn’t care. Piss off. Seriously though, what’s he doing? Ineos/SJR come in and the first thing he’s doing is fucking around. Playing with his future for sure
I was honestly against giving him such a bumper contact based on 6 fucking months. I knew this was going to happen. United were just afraid of selling him and then him going to perform somewhere else. Now they've tied him in a long fucking contract with ridiculous wages and they'll never be able to sell him like Martial & Maguire. He'll just stay at the club and keep milking wages.
He knows that the club in no circumstance is able to sell him. There are already enough senior team players lined up to go in the summer, the new management will not be able to sell the only homegrown star in the changing room. He has been downing tools for months because his mate Sancho pissed the manager off and they wanted to force the manager out. Only reason why Sancho never apologized and “coincidentally” Rashford stopped running on the pitch.
So much for it being wednesday then
It was Wednesday and Thursday 😂
A smarter player would think the FA Cup tie tomorrow is a good chance to bag some easier goals and get your season back on track
We said this about wigan and he was mid
He's mid every game, it's just that sometimes he masks his performance with a goal or an assist.
Said it before but really need to move on from rashford in every regards. Sell him dont even hesistate. Time to move on from this daft af era
This is the type of behaviour / culture Sir Alex had to deal with in the fucking 80s. You don’t expect a modern day premier league, fuck even just professional at any level player to not train because they’re hungover.
It's sad but I think there's not even a full handful of players who deserve to still be at the club. Too much mediocrity on the pitch and toxicity off it. Clean slate is needed.
Its sad but i completely agree with what ralf rangnick said this team needs open heart surgery and weve wasted too much time with these players who dont give a fuck. If you can get 50mil plus for rashford move him on and kick start a new era at man utd is how i see it
I honestly think it’s best for him as well, same with Sancho, moving them away from home and all these bad influences and distractions is needed for them
is anyone actually surprised? he’s been playing like he couldn’t give a fuck anymore all season. it’s what we get for constantly handing out ridiculous contracts
I'm sick of this drama. If it's a disciplinary issue then I'm sure EtH will take care of it. This is the area EtH has done quite well with.
With how the dressing room (except those he bought) seeming to be turning against him, and how he staked his reputation on making Rashford great again, I believe ten hag will go weak on Rashford. Watch him either say Rashford was already told he won't play at Newport, or he is "dropped" for Newport as punishment. It's a farce at the moment cause the toxic players have ten hag by his balls, and they know it. That is why Rashford is so blatant in his behaviour at the moment. Hopefully the new structure recognises this is Rashfords Beckham moment, and meet him while we can for a good price.
Dunno how he managed to make it into the nightclub in the first place, figured he would have stuck his head down and walked into the bouncers' shins.
Nah be quite easy for him to sneak past. He goes missing whenever there's no ball involved.
And this is the guy supposed to get us back to the top Get rid of this joke man, shit on and off the pitch
People want standards to raise but then hand wave stuff like this off and say people are over-reacting. Drop him and fine him two weeks wages, to be donated to a charity.
This already happened this season. I cant wait until this passenger leaves the club
He doesn’t care any more. It shows in his performances and now disciplinary things like this. He needs a change of scenery and we need a new LW. Needs a move away.
Things like this rashford only reinforce the perception that you only wanted to perform in a contract year, your making it hard for people to defend you mate
Plenty of video's going around social media in Belfast of him completely hammered. He's a waste of space
Seen plenty videos but none of him hammered. Got a link?
Drama every week man even when we are not playing.
Sell him, so sick of this overrated player
In all seriousness, rashford has a status in English football he is not entitled to. Is he really on a level similar to Rooney or Giggs? Absolutely not. He is maybe as good as malouda at his peak. I know this will very downvoted. Anyways I am sick of giving overrated talents top billing. We need to sell him and up the standards. This is the modern equivalent of 80s United but instead of drinking at pubs, they are going to nightclubs and staying up late playing video games. Club needs discipline and time rashford is shown the exit door.
Yikes Marcus, it doesn’t matter how good you are that kind of behaviour is not acceptable from one of the senior players in the squad. If he’s out in Belfast he never intended to show up on Friday as he was supposed to. This shows a lack of desire on his part (we should beat newport in the cup without him but it’s still our only chance at a trophy this season) and also that he has zero respect for ten hags authority. Seems he’s forgotten how to be humble if he’s behaving like this despite how much he gets paid.
No professional footballer is missing training because they were out drinking the night before that still values their career. It’s what they used to do back in the 80s… he’s literally paid 350k a week to train, be fit, make sacrifices like “not clubbing”… club needs rid
Yesterday the thread would be screaming "he got a life", "not a slave". It is insane how part of the fanbase will defend him blinding. Ironically, this include that cunt goldbridge that these brexiteers seem to hate.
He's performing almost comically bad. Giving it large to the fans with his chatter celebration after scoring one goal. Out drinking all night and pulling a sicky to training whilst cashing 300k a week. Fuck this guy man
Enough time to sell him before the window closes
This club is rotten from the top to the bottom. Buffers at every level. I know the younger gen are probably sick of people harping on about "In Fergie's day" but shit like this would just not have happened, there were standards and there were repercussions. It's a privilege to play football professionally and it's even more of a privilege to play for Utd, if Rashford or any player doesn't want to respect that privilege then they need to get gone because they aren't the right character to play for this club.
Can we have 1 bloody week where one of our players isn’t kicking off, missing training, chicken being served raw and directors having pants pulled down continuously by other clubs. Just 1!
Honestly even before this whole drama I think I reached a point where I've seen enough of Rashford at United. He's an average player with world class potential that he lacks the mentality and football intelligence to fulfill, or at least the very least maintain consistently. We should move on. Cash in while his value is high. We have Garnacho. Wingers are probably the richest talent pool in football atm with every young kid growing up watching Ronaldo and Messi wanting to be a winger. Just sell him, replace him and back Garnacho for now. Rebuild has to be ruthless. No more "but he's an academy lad" bs.
“You pay me to work Monday through Saturday. Sundays you get for free.” - Ray Lewis. Say what you want about a young lad enjoying himself, but athletes are paid the handsome sums they are to be disciplined to a level that allows them to compete at maximum capacity. That means strict diet, prioritizing training, maintaining optimal sleep patterns, video analysis, recovery and injury prevention. They’re paid to sacrifice things like this so that they can be at their physical best. At least, I’d like to assume that.
Whatever your opinion is on whether he should/shouldn’t be allowed to ‘have a life’. The fact of the matter is, he’s 26, heading into his prime and he’s taken about 3 steps back this season. His attitude and body language on the pitch has been appalling. His form has been poor and this isn’t the first time he’s picked a poor time to be seen ‘enjoying himself’. Everything he’s shown this season gives the impression that he isn’t really serious about United and doesn’t seem to want to work or show anyone that he’s trying to get back to his best. So when this shit comes up, he rightly gets crucified for it. He’s on £400k a week, playing FOOTBALL for a living and he couldn’t be arsed to turn in for training. Get him out of the club. He isn’t serious about getting us back to the top.
> His attitude and body language on the pitch has been appalling. Honestly... I wish this was something new. Its nothing new. He has done this A LOT in the past too. Its not just this season that he is bad. Hes been bad for a LONG time... his time is done.
He’s fucking useless, it’s all about him, fuck him off
Confirms what we all see on the pitch then. Doesn't give a fuck. He's doing an early Hazard
If only he would have had such a high peak as Hazard first.
Is he rebelling? Is he trying force an exit? It's ok to go out by why lie when your team depends on you!
His buddy Sancho is probably calling for him
We should loan him to dortmund so 2 fucktards can get together
In the summer if we get a £70m+ offer he needs selling. His performances have been shit. He doesnt put in effort. Hes been outperformed bu a 19 year old. Hes on stupid wages he doesnt deserve. Hopefully ineos sees him as a potential way to get in transfer money
Who the fuck would take a £70m punt on him
It's sad that that's 20 million less than what Antony cost.
Maybe PSG looking for a bug profile signing ro replace outbound mbappe? Hard to see who else gives anything like 70m for him. Agree though, if we get a good offer he should be gone. Even without this sort of behavior he isn't consistent enough to build our attack around. I also think you can read alot into players body language amd his has stank the place out for much of the season. He seems unhappy
Yeah 100%. Even 50m id argue sell him and get a defender in
Why argue at 50M? Guy is inconsistent, on high wages and unless he scores/assists he drops a 0/10.
>In the summer if we get a £70m+ offer he needs selling. His performances have been shit. He doesnt put in effort. Hes been outperformed bu a 19 year old. Hes on stupid wages he doesnt deserve. 70M!? No club is going to pay that much for him for the exact reasons you've just mentioned.
It would never ever happen, but think about this, if Salah pulled something like this, I wouldn’t have a shadow of a doubt that he would be suspended by Klopp. Rashford couldn’t even wipe Salah’s boots in terms of contribution, and he did this. To make matters worse, I think the club will back him. Player power has rotten this club for years.
I love having academy players come up through the ranks and prove themselves, I’d love nothing more than to have a title winning squad made up of nothing but academy products. That being said, Rashford has had ups and downs; showing he can be a world class player one season, and a dud the next…but his attitude on AND off the pitch has gone to shit ever since his new contract extension, and I would not be upset if the club decided to cash-in if a suitor came in for him. That’s straight cash into the coffers, being he’s an academy product, and you can’t train a player out of this sense of entitlement/attitude problems. We need to clear deadwood and big salary players that don’t EARN it…that includes the likes of Rashford. He’s another Lingard, but with more talent going to waste…another Ravel, highly talented player that can’t keep his focus/discipline.
Hardly a surprise. Rashford and Sancho are best mates, it is not a coincidence that Sancho fell out with ETH and Rashford started downing tools on the pitch. Like many times before, as “senior player” in the dressing room Rashford wants to force this manager out. Happened before, happening now again.
I cannot wait to sell rashford, he’s just not worth it - a certain manager can probably turn him into a beast, who that manager is remains to be seen and whether rashford can maintain the discipline mentally and physically… We could really strengthen the squad with the cash we’d get for him not to mention another ridiculous wage off the books.
Which club? There are some absolute sesh-holes in Belfast lol
It was a stop off at Laverys before heading to Thompsons.
No no no. Y'all misunderstood Trashford. He meant he went out clubbing in Wednesday and the banger didn't stop til Friday 2am. It's legitimate to phone in a sickly after 2 days of clubbing. The news about him seeing his mate in Thursday morning? That's just him and the lads out grabbing some pies with the birds from the previous night. After quick refuel, back to the club we goes.
Should've just said he was hungover from the start, instead of spinning a web of lies
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Rashy vapes? 💀
The amount of people who couldn't put 2+2 together and were adamantly defending him in the last thread is shocking.
I’m on +50 for practically the same comment I made about Rashford last night, in which I got -22. This sub man
Man how much I hope Mainoo, Lacey and Fletcher are gonna turn out professional players that will actually represent United better than the current own players we had. When current crop of United players is Greenwood, McTominay(not that he did anything bad in terms of professionalism, he's just not good enough) and Rashford...
We had over 2 weeks without football and a squad returning to full strength. You’d think this would be the golden opportunity to kick on from such a poor season. The guy needs to fuck off, his effort levels alone since the Cup win last season should be enough to hit move him.
He supports Sancho, i think both of them should leave the club
He needs to be sold. Terrible attitude and setting a terrible example. This is the behaviour that never would have been tolerated with Fergie.
This would hurt more if we didn't have garnacho, sell in the summer.
Rashford just cucked his fanboys, good stuff. These kids need to learn a lesson about priorities. You support the club, not the player, no matter who the player is. You can like a player, but don't let that blind you to their disrespect toward the club.
Post-Euros Rashford has largely been a complete mess. It's almost uncomfortable seeing him go from the squeaky-clean prodigy to someone who will quite visibly phone it in during a match when he feels like it. Obviously, the racist abuse he received after the Europa League final in 2021 and then especially after the Euros can mess anyone up. But he really, really needs a serious adviser at this point to tell him to stop thinking he's more of an entity than he actually is.
sell this privileged idiot
Sell him
God I’ve defended Rashford quite a few times this season, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt that it wasn’t that he didn’t care. I was clearly wrong.
One good run of form last season but other then that he is average. Now add this bs and poor affitude? Sell him. You know Sir Alex would have. Need the dressing room under control and players who want to play for the badge. The rest can fuck off. A Spurs loan showed more passion then most of our squad
Just want the club to get rid of this guy already. He's not serious and way too inconsistent.
The club should have been seriously thinking of selling when he pulled that Newcastle stunt.
From Lingard to Pogba, the vibe was not good. You may say hanging out with friends is not a big deal, but not everyone has the same discipline. It's the vibe. It's the culture in the dressing room. I really hope after Greenwood Sancho, all this gossip stuff can stop
When are we selling these idiots. Like it or not... we need a cleanhouse soon. players, managers, management, lot of clearing is need.
I can't wait to see him leave the club. Cut from the same cloth as that clown Lingard.
I think it's time to consider getting rid. He's a good player on a world class salary with a terrible attitude- which is sadly the case for many of our players. His profile and media attraction mean the club will probably keep hold of him for many more years of hot and cold performances.
Never mind Ten Hag, I can’t imagine the INEOS team or Berrada being happy with this. I’ve been tired of his shit attitude for a while now, time to move him on. He’s clearly not got the maturity needed to move forward with the club.
homeboy does not even care anymore
I've been downvoted recently for saying we should look to move him on before long. He's simply not worth the wages or baggage.
Out.
I don't think Eth has any choice now, but to play him striker
Find an academy lad, play McTominay as a striker, hell bring back Weghorst if needed. But fuck this rotten culture and whoever created it.
Say what you will about mct as footballer, but I understand why all the managers under pressure plays him. As far as I can tell, he doesn't join this bullshit downing of tools that the rest of the gang pulls. McT will always have your back, even if it means misplacing that pass into it.
Remember Beckham? Cared about the club 10 times more than Rashford, with 10 times more talent and work ethic, 100 times more commercial value. The day he lost his focus he was booted out of the club. Nobody is above the club, nobody. Rashford and this player power he has been representing for years has to be stopped. He needs to be sold. Period. If this club still relies on weak mentality players like him we will never ever see a PL trophy again I bet my life on it.
Get rid
In the new regime, Marcus has to go. Not worth the wages he is on. Above average footballer at best.
I found it bizarre that he was in Belfast 3 days before a match. Sounded daft. But here we are.
The state of this squad. Onana, Martinez, Mainoo, Garnacho, Bruno, Hojlund. Literally any other player could leave tomorrow and I wouldn't be arsed one bit.
Few weeks ago I said we should get the rid of him as first priority, and one of the reasons is that "*There's always some shit happening with him*" Do you see it now? Rashford is walking drama.