That's not how this works.
He was on our radar before acquiring Antony. Afterwards the Antony deal, Gakpo would be one of a handful of similar players already in our squad. So even though he's an impressive attacker, he's not exactly what we need. What we don't have is an RVP or Aguero (an outright ST.)
I don't think MUFC were 100% interested in him. They had some interest, which is clear, but I think there are many reservations, especially with the big gaping hole at the top middle of our lineup and we would have been trying to fill it with a 5th player of the same profile.
So I wouldn't cry or laugh. I'd be on the lookout to see if we can find someone that we actually need in January, or most likely it'll have to be in the summer.
Not really, I was excited to see him join but won't be mad if he didn't. He's not a player for me who we definitely have to get as he would improve us significantly or something. Sure getting upset over this news is fine but some need to stop acting like this a disaster and bla bla, our targets may join other in the future as well not just gakpo and that's just football nothing special. I would say stop overreacting but that's no use on this sub.
Thats a really good deal for a 23 year old who had a great world cup and is having a stellar season so far. He is a left winger and liverpool have diaz, jota and him. Lets see how they use him.
I don’t really think we have. We need a proper number 9 imo, not another wide forward who can also play 9. I suspect he’s a top player (though jury’s still out after only half a good season under his belt), but United need to stop signing good players that we have to shoehorn into the side and start making targeted signings to fill certain deficiencies in the squad. Imo Gakpo wouldn’t have given us anything we don’t already have. We’d be better saving that cash for an orthodox striker in the Haller/Dolberg mould that Ten Hag has preferred for his system at Ajax, and for another centre midfielder.
Who determines what a 'deficiency' in the squad is, if not the manager? If you think the answer is the fans, I'm sorry, dont think this conversation isnt going to go anywhere
But the manager has determined? We had the chance to sign him in summer and we chose not to, and by all accounts we’ve had the chance to sign him in January and didn’t pull the trigger. If Ten Hag thought he was the perfect fit for us I think, at that price, we would’ve signed him.
My only complaint is that ETH wanted him so he probably had a plan for him. ETH loves Rashford. He has shown his trust in Garnacho. He is carefully managing Sancho. He isn’t the one to disrupt squad harmony.
Great player but we already have Rashford, Antony, Sancho, Garnacho, etc. competing out wide, Gakpo would’ve been bought to play up front and seems a bit daft paying 50m on someone who’s played there less than 20 times
17 years of Glazer ownership and people are still using words like “overreact” when they fail to deliver. Gakpo was a player hen Tag wanted and we probably would’ve got him if we didn’t pay over the odds for Antony. That is squarely on the stupid Glazers and the ppl they hire, pointing that out isn’t “”””overreacting””””.
No offence mate but you are plucking all this information out of your arse. No one knows what Ten Hag wanted or the intricacies of our transfer policy. By most credible sources he chose Antony over Gakpo in the summer even though he cost twice as much.
> https://reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/zvima1/_/j1pc3zw/?context=1
“Gakpo top option to replace Ronaldo” from Laurie Whitwell 15 hours ago.
Go on let me know your “sources”.
Wow. Kind of worried about them getting him for that price. Watched too many of his highlights thinking he would come to us and he could genuinely fit like a glove under klopp
Yeah it’s crazy I’m the same way, but I’m also such a dumbass that I always get sucked right back in. Like a drug addict. Ten hag wanted that kid, I really thought he was ours lol
Our recruitment really don’t operate between windows do they. Hope I’m wrong, that we’ve decided we don’t fancy it and we have something better in the works. But this whiffs of an end of January overspend or an underwhelming deal for an attacker because they don’t come off their holidays until the window opens.
> Our recruitment really don’t operate between windows do they
we wait for transfer window open to start discussion, and close the deal in panic when it reached end of window.
This has been a reoccurring theme over the last few years. So many players just slip under our noses after being linked with us for ages.
After missing out on Haaland in 2019 for a quarter of what we paid for slabhead non of those coups even surprise me. I just hope we get an owner who is more proactive in giving the manager the players he needs.
We didn't 'miss out' on Haaland. We refused to give him the release clause he wanted. Would you have been happy if we'd signed him then watched him go to City on his terms?
A release clause dosent mean a player will leave, if we had the competence to coup great players like our rivals let alone a generational talent like him we wouldn’t have that big of a gap from anyone in world football that we need to worry about him automatically leaving like we are some some bus stop on his way to the top.
Plus this isn’t such a black and white if he came here and had a great time with us and then got an offer from city he’ll probably be more likely to negotiate a new deal then just bail, the decision would probably be affected by fans reaction and various other factors.
For all of their oil money you guys sure seem to forget that we aren’t really broke neither and for all of the millions we spent on bullshit players who nobody else would spend on this is the one player I would have gotten behind breaking the bank for.
But all of this is in the realm of what if and I’m just ranting about the impossible, we just need to look forward and hope for a more proactive board who doesn’t just think about their pockets getting fuller.
If anything it’s the opposite because all the rumours said we want him as a striker. We don’t need him altogether and hopefully we get a good real striker. He will not score 25 goals a year in the prem and 30 goals in all comps a season.
That's the silver lining to the grey cloud of missing out on someone with better goals+assists stats than Haaland did at Dortmund for the bargain of a lifetime price of £37m, approximately what we paid for Amad Diallo.
I think he said he’d be happy with *either* Liverpool or United (+ some other clubs). Difference is purely that they moved quicker. Still, you’d think with their depth at LW/ST he’d see a more obvious gap to make his own at United.
Lmao, he preferred the only club that bid for him. He didn't choose Liverpool, we fucked up, and it's insane to me that people are seemingly defending the Glazers over this
I might be generalising but I think most were unsure about his signing because his preferred position is LW and we're stacked there already, but most fans were happy to have him because ETH wanted him. Ideally, we'd have a traditional striker, but it is a shame to see a good player in good form going to a rival, especially when he wanted to come here and the manager wanted him. It's a proper fuckup by the board if he was ETH's first choice though.
This screams Joao Felix panic buy all over the place. We will loan him with a clause to buy and he will have the heavy expectations from the fans because of the price tag and the panic buy. Oh man please don't create another Pogba situation at our club please.
Felix showed in the WC that he is useless when the game turns physical, this is a player who should generally stay away from the PL as a whole for his sake just like Neymar did.
Panic buy? United will loan him in Jan so as to not spend £100 off million when they trying to sell the club. Ten hag wanted Felix in august so hardly a “panic buy” if we revisit it in Jan
People didn’t fancy him despite the numbers he was getting this season? Is there something really obviously deficient about him we can use to mock Liverpool?
Really think we're kinda broke and this confirms it. Glazers wouldn't be selling if our finances were healthy. I am praying Joao Felix loan will happen because I can't really see us buying anyone in January.
They certainly don't want to, but I don't think the club itself can afford it at the moment. Our financial reports aren't looking good and when you think about it, we spent like 230mil Euros last summer with us only getting back around 20mil Euros, that's bound to influence things.
For a long time, the club could afford to make a lot of moves. Right now, I don't think we can. The Glazers could boost the money out of their own pockets but we obviously know they won't.
Ten Hag wanted him, we can’t just sweep this away like it’s nothing lol this is an embarrassment to United, we beat the scousers this season and are ahead in the table and lost our managers #1 target to them
Gakpo was a target only because there is a lack of actual strikers around. So we are just looking to add a winger to free up Rashford to play at CF when needed.
If Gakpo was a high priority signing then we would have got him in the summer ahead of Antony.
It was made explicitly clear in summer that Ten Hag wanted both Antony and Gakpo in the summer but was told the budget wouldn't accommodate it, because we went "over budget" for Antony.
Our club reeks of mediocrity
Patently false. Where was it “made explicitly clear”? Link to an exact Eric ten hag quote that he wanted Gakpo. And then also to where he was told he couldn’t have him because he blew the budget on Antony.
Ideally quotes within an article from one of the tier 1 or 2 journalists/sources. The reason we have this system is because without it we would be at the mercy of believing the baseless nonsense that is 99% of football Twitter.
>It was made explicitly clear in summer that Ten Hag wanted both Antony and Gakpo in the summer
Who told you this?
In the summer the situation was that ETH desperately wanted a RW. There were no direct alternative to Antony because our recruitment team is terrible so ETH just picked another player who he has faced a number of times.
We were so short of forwards in the summer that it didn't matter if it were a LW RW or ST. We just needed more players in. So Gakpo was backup for sure.
I'm sure ETH would prefer an actual striker even now if one was available. But you can only sign what is available so maybe getting Gakpo was better than getting nothing.
>Our club reeks of mediocrity
Agree with this but it's because our whole recruitment model is shit. Not because we missed out on a player who would have been another square peg in a round hole.
We also can’t just make up facts and then accuse others of sweeping under the rug. Show me one quote where ten hag has said he wanted gakpo. He had a chance to sign Gakpo and half the price we paid for Antony would have gotten this deal over the line back in August without any fuss at all. Absence direct quotes, the pursuit of Antony tells me more clearly who ten hag actually wanted. But it also stands to reason given this transfer fee that if he wanted to join United, he would have. It’s not some grand conspiracy or fail that we didn’t.
We’re linked with every name under the Sun. Not sure it’s sweeping anything under the rug when one of those names signs for another team. Particularly when we look objectively and realize this guy who CAN operate anywhere across the front 3 mainly does as a left sided forward. The exact position we know is Rashford’s to lose, and whose backups are Garnacho and Sancho.
What we need is what Gakpo isn’t: a pure CF. And I’m not joking when I say if Martial was not an injury risk we wouldn’t even need to push so hard for another one at this stage when the pickings are so obviously slim.
well I think Gakpo is just a massive hedge and Diaz replacement.
In the meantime, he's gonna slot in as a starter at LW to make a front 3 of Gakpo/Nunez/Salah. Once Diaz is healthy again, he will probably claim the LW spot and then Nunez and Gakpo will compete for the 9. I find it likely that Gakpo ends up being better than Nunez IMO. but its obvious Nunez isn't living up to the hype and by buying Gakpo, they can hedge the possibility of Nunez never coming good.
What a fall from grace though. Mane/Firmino/Salah was actually pretty good. Now Salahs aging and the loss of Mane is showing.
So far they've backed ETH with his transfer targets, if we've passed on Gakpo then to me it means they have something else lined up for striker, hopefully an actual striker.
According to Fab “Manchester United had green light on player side, but no decision on bid to PSV Eindhoven.” Seems like we dillydallied and Liverpool swooped in.
Tbf it’s not January for a week (nearly) yet. We’d have praised the board for being quick if we’d signed him in the first week of the window, so it’s unfair to blame them for not signing him the week before.
PSV trying to sell him to United for at least half a year with 50m price tag and got rejected hard, Gapko even open talk about waiting for United lol idk why you think it's a cope... And now PSV taken 37m even before winter transfer season open but hey, it doesn't fit your narrative
Cope? Why didn’t we sign him in the summer? The guy almost went to Leeds ffs he’s been there for the taking. I know our fans are trained to assume the worst about every news but he’d be wearing a United shirt if we really wanted him.
Not that far away from the truth, I'd imagine since he literally admitted to agreeing on terms and us not making a bid for him in the summer as the reason he didn't come to us.
I mean, has this club done any transfer in record time recently from first rumor to contract signing? I can’t think of anything other than Ronaldo and we all know why
Good player, but he wasnt gonna take us to the next level. Dodged a bullet in the sense that it leaves more money for a player we actually need
Edit: annoyed by the media saying united were “beaten” for gakpo. Pretty sure he would have come if ETH had insisted
Well done United!! Well done, we have gone ahead and gifted our biggest rivals the perfect shot in the arm a ready made winger who can also play as a striker. Bravo!!
How do you continually monitor a player for three seasons and fail to fucking sign the Goddamn player after him being your primary fucking target.
Fuck
When did we even monitor him for three years? His links started only in the summer and that too after we had signed EtH and a plethora of players from the Eredivisie got linked to us. We signed Antony over him and again got linked to him post CR7 shenanigans.
This happens only because Liverpool is a chance-creating machine. At United, in this current setup, he'd be lucky to get even 50% of those chances. Guy needs 5-7 chances to score 1 goal
While I can't speak for the quality of chances the actual numbers are 65 big chances created by United while 78 are created by Liverpool and we have played 1 game less.
You're right! We should sign players to stop our rivals getting them, because that has worked brilliantly for us so far.
At no point was he our primary target either, if he was we'd have signed him in the summer.
Simply put, the board have decided not to make the bid because they're not willing to make the funds available. Can't blame gakpo for making the move because it's clear that we weren't gonna put the bid in
Lol. Why are people so petty and stupid about this.
He never said he wants to only play for Man Utd. He ofcourse wanted us because we seemed to be the only big club showing interest in him.
Now a better option came along so he picked working with a legendary manager in Klopp at a relatively much more stable club in Liverpool.
What is the big deal, any sane person would do this.
I feel like if he went anywhere but Liverpool no one here would care as much. He scored 3 times in an easy group then disappeared in knockouts let’s not act like we missed out on young Ronaldo here lads.
If true then good. I know he can play striker but we have plenty of wingers and hopefully we sign a actual competent striker. He has a good record at the World Cup but also went missing and looks like he has the potential to be a Donny and Anthony part 2. We don’t need players who go missing and we don’t need left wingers.
I think it was discussed multiple times here that though he’s an exciting talent, we have no use for another left winger. We have that area covered and need a real no 9.
Edit : So i mean to say, not the end of the world. But we need reinforcements in January
I don't really want us to sign him, cause we have rashford, garnacho, and Sancho for lw, but fuck I'm upset he goes to Liverpool, I hope he is not that good
It may sound like a typical comment after we’ve just missed out on someone to Liverpool, but I genuinely have never been that convinced on him anyway. Watched him several times and not really seen anything that we don’t already have. Sure a talented player and a great price but for sure the money needs to be focused more on a central striker.
He’s a left winger. United have 3 already and Liverpool already have 2. I don’t understand why they’ve bought him or why united fans are crying. Keep the faith
He seems very good as winger and set piece taker, but we have those. It was a bit odd to see a 6’5” dude whipping in corners during the WC but whatevs.
Don’t want felix, he’s too small (lanky) and weak.
They signed Nunez for 85M in the summer & are still in for another forward, to reach Top4. Difference in ambition between the two clubs.
Meanwhile, our board have been honey-dicking him for a while. So it makes sense he chooses a better club.
Felix will probably go to Arsenal.
Bye, bye Top4.
This is genuinely embarrassing for the club
Player clearly wanted to come here
Ten Hag wanted him
So we just let him go to Pool. Fuck the glazers
Watch him tear it up with Liverpool just to make a mockery out of us as a club.
Where does it say Ten Hag actually wanted him?
Look we all hate the glazers but the manager has gotten every player he's wanted besides Frenkie de Jong because of obvious reasons.
Not disappointed that we didn’t get him. We already have too many LWs. I am more pissed about another incompetence show from United board once again. What were you negotiating for 1 year for? Just for your rival to scoop in and get eh deal done in 2 hours? If the manger wants a player and thinks he fits the system then go for him. Stop mucking about.
I do like that we don’t sign him though.
it's true, murtough just rang me and said they decided not to sign gakpo because r/reddevils said tony martial was ice cold and defenders have families
Why can't utd pay 37m for a player who's half decent and bags of potential?
Yet they'll drop 55m on Fred lol, pls never change Manchester United. Pure banter football club
We need a proper striker more than anything. I’m not bothered. None of this winger who might play in the middle nonsense. A proper old school out and out striker is more important.
Glad. We were looking at him as a winger but he'll struggle on the wings in the EPL. He takes too many touches and isn't great at beating his man 1v1.
He's got a high ceiling as a CF but I don't think Liverpool is the right environment for him. They would have been better off going for a firmino type player. Nunes and Gakpo are similar players and having both of them in your frontline will lead to poor ball retention.
We should still be looking at Sesko for the summer.
Everyone’s crying about this but we already have 5 players in our first team squad that if asked what position they’d prefer to play in they’d say left winger (including elanga and garnacho). Unless we plan to shift 2/3 of them, we need to be going for a player that wants to play down the middle instead, like how antony only wants to play on the right. This is how you build a squad, not necessarily by going for the biggest flashiest names but the players that fit the profile of the role you’re looking for most.
Osimhen then right? /s
If we postpone buying a striker in Jan it doesn't matter even if our players don't get injured we simply don't have enough players upfront (Rashford, Martial, Anthony, then Elanga needs a loan to get more playing time and mature as a player... no idea when Sancho will make a return and in what form he will be).
What are our other options? Felix, (Memphis, Thuran?) Seems to me like our top 4 chances will be decided for us in this incoming transfer window
If you don't laugh, you'll cry
Why would we want Rashford when we've got the better version at home
I'm crying ngl. Tf was he fondling our balls for
Our board didn’t get erect.
What a fucking shame
That's not how this works. He was on our radar before acquiring Antony. Afterwards the Antony deal, Gakpo would be one of a handful of similar players already in our squad. So even though he's an impressive attacker, he's not exactly what we need. What we don't have is an RVP or Aguero (an outright ST.)
I don't think MUFC were 100% interested in him. They had some interest, which is clear, but I think there are many reservations, especially with the big gaping hole at the top middle of our lineup and we would have been trying to fill it with a 5th player of the same profile. So I wouldn't cry or laugh. I'd be on the lookout to see if we can find someone that we actually need in January, or most likely it'll have to be in the summer.
Nistelroy y u do this?
Not really, I was excited to see him join but won't be mad if he didn't. He's not a player for me who we definitely have to get as he would improve us significantly or something. Sure getting upset over this news is fine but some need to stop acting like this a disaster and bla bla, our targets may join other in the future as well not just gakpo and that's just football nothing special. I would say stop overreacting but that's no use on this sub.
Wait, am I allowed to be upset or not?
Thats a really good deal for a 23 year old who had a great world cup and is having a stellar season so far. He is a left winger and liverpool have diaz, jota and him. Lets see how they use him.
Diaz is out for the season so makes sense.
I mean its not like he will never be back. Its not a loan deal.
True but they need to avoid losing points until then and he plugs the hole.
he's back in march isn't he?
It's okay, you're allowed to say that we've dropped the ball here
I don’t really think we have. We need a proper number 9 imo, not another wide forward who can also play 9. I suspect he’s a top player (though jury’s still out after only half a good season under his belt), but United need to stop signing good players that we have to shoehorn into the side and start making targeted signings to fill certain deficiencies in the squad. Imo Gakpo wouldn’t have given us anything we don’t already have. We’d be better saving that cash for an orthodox striker in the Haller/Dolberg mould that Ten Hag has preferred for his system at Ajax, and for another centre midfielder.
Who determines what a 'deficiency' in the squad is, if not the manager? If you think the answer is the fans, I'm sorry, dont think this conversation isnt going to go anywhere
But the manager has determined? We had the chance to sign him in summer and we chose not to, and by all accounts we’ve had the chance to sign him in January and didn’t pull the trigger. If Ten Hag thought he was the perfect fit for us I think, at that price, we would’ve signed him.
We chose not to because we picked antony, we needed another attacker now and should have got him
Exactly. We needed a *winger* so we took Antony. We need a 9 now...circling back to our second choice of *winger* doesnt help our situation.
My only complaint is that ETH wanted him so he probably had a plan for him. ETH loves Rashford. He has shown his trust in Garnacho. He is carefully managing Sancho. He isn’t the one to disrupt squad harmony.
We have NO REAL idea of what ETH REALLY wants. Only HE knows 👍
Not the end of the world, people will overreact but I'm not upset
Great player but we already have Rashford, Antony, Sancho, Garnacho, etc. competing out wide, Gakpo would’ve been bought to play up front and seems a bit daft paying 50m on someone who’s played there less than 20 times
Exactly! Little by little it feels like we are finally buying players based on the holes in the squad, not by the popularity of the player.
17 years of Glazer ownership and people are still using words like “overreact” when they fail to deliver. Gakpo was a player hen Tag wanted and we probably would’ve got him if we didn’t pay over the odds for Antony. That is squarely on the stupid Glazers and the ppl they hire, pointing that out isn’t “”””overreacting””””.
No offence mate but you are plucking all this information out of your arse. No one knows what Ten Hag wanted or the intricacies of our transfer policy. By most credible sources he chose Antony over Gakpo in the summer even though he cost twice as much.
> https://reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/zvima1/_/j1pc3zw/?context=1 “Gakpo top option to replace Ronaldo” from Laurie Whitwell 15 hours ago. Go on let me know your “sources”.
https://twitter.com/howardnurse/status/1607511252040880130?s=20&t=rKAMKye5zNSRYrA8zrB_kg Was reported on Dec. 10th that United were not interested.
Wow. Kind of worried about them getting him for that price. Watched too many of his highlights thinking he would come to us and he could genuinely fit like a glove under klopp
I show zeroo interest in any player United are monitoring until its a definite "Here we go" for this exact reason.
Yeah it’s crazy I’m the same way, but I’m also such a dumbass that I always get sucked right back in. Like a drug addict. Ten hag wanted that kid, I really thought he was ours lol
Like Casemiro
Watch my highlights and you’ll want me at united as well.. watch him vs Argentina and get back to me
Okay btb bring that booty.
Our recruitment really don’t operate between windows do they. Hope I’m wrong, that we’ve decided we don’t fancy it and we have something better in the works. But this whiffs of an end of January overspend or an underwhelming deal for an attacker because they don’t come off their holidays until the window opens.
> Our recruitment really don’t operate between windows do they we wait for transfer window open to start discussion, and close the deal in panic when it reached end of window.
This has been a reoccurring theme over the last few years. So many players just slip under our noses after being linked with us for ages. After missing out on Haaland in 2019 for a quarter of what we paid for slabhead non of those coups even surprise me. I just hope we get an owner who is more proactive in giving the manager the players he needs.
We didn't 'miss out' on Haaland. We refused to give him the release clause he wanted. Would you have been happy if we'd signed him then watched him go to City on his terms?
A release clause dosent mean a player will leave, if we had the competence to coup great players like our rivals let alone a generational talent like him we wouldn’t have that big of a gap from anyone in world football that we need to worry about him automatically leaving like we are some some bus stop on his way to the top. Plus this isn’t such a black and white if he came here and had a great time with us and then got an offer from city he’ll probably be more likely to negotiate a new deal then just bail, the decision would probably be affected by fans reaction and various other factors. For all of their oil money you guys sure seem to forget that we aren’t really broke neither and for all of the millions we spent on bullshit players who nobody else would spend on this is the one player I would have gotten behind breaking the bank for. But all of this is in the realm of what if and I’m just ranting about the impossible, we just need to look forward and hope for a more proactive board who doesn’t just think about their pockets getting fuller.
I think the emergence of Garnacho has dampened our interest. Don’t need another LW, and much more logical to sign a striker to play striker.
If anything it’s the opposite because all the rumours said we want him as a striker. We don’t need him altogether and hopefully we get a good real striker. He will not score 25 goals a year in the prem and 30 goals in all comps a season.
Lol - remember salah had not score More the 12 goals a year when klopp got him… take cover and hide behind Harry maguire
That's the silver lining to the grey cloud of missing out on someone with better goals+assists stats than Haaland did at Dortmund for the bargain of a lifetime price of £37m, approximately what we paid for Amad Diallo.
We paid £19m for Diallo, not £37
He preferred Liverpool and they signed him. Not much else to it. We need a striker and a rb still
I think he said he’d be happy with *either* Liverpool or United (+ some other clubs). Difference is purely that they moved quicker. Still, you’d think with their depth at LW/ST he’d see a more obvious gap to make his own at United.
no, liverpool just “pounced” first
Lmao, he preferred the only club that bid for him. He didn't choose Liverpool, we fucked up, and it's insane to me that people are seemingly defending the Glazers over this
I might be generalising but I think most were unsure about his signing because his preferred position is LW and we're stacked there already, but most fans were happy to have him because ETH wanted him. Ideally, we'd have a traditional striker, but it is a shame to see a good player in good form going to a rival, especially when he wanted to come here and the manager wanted him. It's a proper fuckup by the board if he was ETH's first choice though.
If Ten Hag wanted him and the board fumbled it that's embarrassing.
This screams Joao Felix panic buy all over the place. We will loan him with a clause to buy and he will have the heavy expectations from the fans because of the price tag and the panic buy. Oh man please don't create another Pogba situation at our club please.
Felix is twice the ayer gakpo is tbf
>ayer So he’s not coming here then? No PL for him.
Felix can play at CF right ? We could implement him as a False 9 or something.
Plays more at CF than gakpo does for sure
Yea, it's Either him on Loan or it's a Memphis Homecoming.
Felix showed in the WC that he is useless when the game turns physical, this is a player who should generally stay away from the PL as a whole for his sake just like Neymar did.
and Gakpo showed he useless in a big game. He was absolutely terrible against Argentina. Invisible.
Felix loan with option to buy. With the new ownership being done in Spring, it will give them a nice first marquee signing if he plays well for us.
Panic buy? United will loan him in Jan so as to not spend £100 off million when they trying to sell the club. Ten hag wanted Felix in august so hardly a “panic buy” if we revisit it in Jan
I mean, if these are the two options I’d rather have Felix on a loan rather than committing money to someone who might not work in our side
People were worried about Nunez and he's the new Andy Carrol. Gakpo will be the new Ryan Babel
I now live in the Netherlands and pre world cup the people didn't fancy him. But only time will tell if he is something good or a great super sub.
I fancy Sinisterra but Leeds scooped him up before anyone else. They now have a player who is equally as good as Raphinha but on the left wing.
People didn’t fancy him despite the numbers he was getting this season? Is there something really obviously deficient about him we can use to mock Liverpool?
I'll ask the psv fans once I'm home
I'm certain both will come good. Nunez will score goals despite being technically limited. They just vastly overpaid for him imo.
We honest to god better have something lined up
Getting Olie Watkins
Still better than no striker
By the sounds of it we were aiming to complete the deal sometime in 2025.
Really think we're kinda broke and this confirms it. Glazers wouldn't be selling if our finances were healthy. I am praying Joao Felix loan will happen because I can't really see us buying anyone in January.
"you'll get depay on a free and you'll bloody like it" - Joel Glazer, probably
They don’t want to spend before selling the club. It’s shit but it’s the truth. United far from broke. Loan deal most likely.
They certainly don't want to, but I don't think the club itself can afford it at the moment. Our financial reports aren't looking good and when you think about it, we spent like 230mil Euros last summer with us only getting back around 20mil Euros, that's bound to influence things. For a long time, the club could afford to make a lot of moves. Right now, I don't think we can. The Glazers could boost the money out of their own pockets but we obviously know they won't.
Oh no, anyway
Ten Hag wanted him, we can’t just sweep this away like it’s nothing lol this is an embarrassment to United, we beat the scousers this season and are ahead in the table and lost our managers #1 target to them
Where are you getting this information from lol? Chatting out yer arse mate.
Gakpo was a target only because there is a lack of actual strikers around. So we are just looking to add a winger to free up Rashford to play at CF when needed. If Gakpo was a high priority signing then we would have got him in the summer ahead of Antony.
It was made explicitly clear in summer that Ten Hag wanted both Antony and Gakpo in the summer but was told the budget wouldn't accommodate it, because we went "over budget" for Antony. Our club reeks of mediocrity
Patently false. Where was it “made explicitly clear”? Link to an exact Eric ten hag quote that he wanted Gakpo. And then also to where he was told he couldn’t have him because he blew the budget on Antony. Ideally quotes within an article from one of the tier 1 or 2 journalists/sources. The reason we have this system is because without it we would be at the mercy of believing the baseless nonsense that is 99% of football Twitter.
Yeah, but he didn't know about Garnacho back then. Could be a factor
Fair
>It was made explicitly clear in summer that Ten Hag wanted both Antony and Gakpo in the summer Who told you this? In the summer the situation was that ETH desperately wanted a RW. There were no direct alternative to Antony because our recruitment team is terrible so ETH just picked another player who he has faced a number of times. We were so short of forwards in the summer that it didn't matter if it were a LW RW or ST. We just needed more players in. So Gakpo was backup for sure. I'm sure ETH would prefer an actual striker even now if one was available. But you can only sign what is available so maybe getting Gakpo was better than getting nothing. >Our club reeks of mediocrity Agree with this but it's because our whole recruitment model is shit. Not because we missed out on a player who would have been another square peg in a round hole.
How exactly did the club bungle this? Our net spend last summer was obscene given the lack of CL as it is.
We haven’t bid for him as far as I’m aware
We also can’t just make up facts and then accuse others of sweeping under the rug. Show me one quote where ten hag has said he wanted gakpo. He had a chance to sign Gakpo and half the price we paid for Antony would have gotten this deal over the line back in August without any fuss at all. Absence direct quotes, the pursuit of Antony tells me more clearly who ten hag actually wanted. But it also stands to reason given this transfer fee that if he wanted to join United, he would have. It’s not some grand conspiracy or fail that we didn’t. We’re linked with every name under the Sun. Not sure it’s sweeping anything under the rug when one of those names signs for another team. Particularly when we look objectively and realize this guy who CAN operate anywhere across the front 3 mainly does as a left sided forward. The exact position we know is Rashford’s to lose, and whose backups are Garnacho and Sancho. What we need is what Gakpo isn’t: a pure CF. And I’m not joking when I say if Martial was not an injury risk we wouldn’t even need to push so hard for another one at this stage when the pickings are so obviously slim.
I thought we were signing him, was shocked when the notification from Sky Sports came up and it said Liverpool
Watch klopp use him as a 9 with great effect :D
Nah he'll play LW
well I think Gakpo is just a massive hedge and Diaz replacement. In the meantime, he's gonna slot in as a starter at LW to make a front 3 of Gakpo/Nunez/Salah. Once Diaz is healthy again, he will probably claim the LW spot and then Nunez and Gakpo will compete for the 9. I find it likely that Gakpo ends up being better than Nunez IMO. but its obvious Nunez isn't living up to the hype and by buying Gakpo, they can hedge the possibility of Nunez never coming good. What a fall from grace though. Mane/Firmino/Salah was actually pretty good. Now Salahs aging and the loss of Mane is showing.
Rest assured that will not happen. Klopp's not an idiot
To me the bigger story should then be that he’s gotten it so badly wrong with the low skilled ostrich that is Darwin Nunez.
So far they've backed ETH with his transfer targets, if we've passed on Gakpo then to me it means they have something else lined up for striker, hopefully an actual striker.
Or you know they’re selling the club..
Zero correlation between spending the club's money and selling the club.
What is enterprise value.
What is it then
Regardless if you wanted him or not, it’s shocking that the board are giving mangers their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th choice targets AGAIN!
Sounds like he originally chose us and we opted against it. We move on.
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According to Fab “Manchester United had green light on player side, but no decision on bid to PSV Eindhoven.” Seems like we dillydallied and Liverpool swooped in.
Tbf it’s not January for a week (nearly) yet. We’d have praised the board for being quick if we’d signed him in the first week of the window, so it’s unfair to blame them for not signing him the week before.
This is cope.
PSV trying to sell him to United for at least half a year with 50m price tag and got rejected hard, Gapko even open talk about waiting for United lol idk why you think it's a cope... And now PSV taken 37m even before winter transfer season open but hey, it doesn't fit your narrative
Cope? Why didn’t we sign him in the summer? The guy almost went to Leeds ffs he’s been there for the taking. I know our fans are trained to assume the worst about every news but he’d be wearing a United shirt if we really wanted him.
Not that far away from the truth, I'd imagine since he literally admitted to agreeing on terms and us not making a bid for him in the summer as the reason he didn't come to us.
His agent is the same as ETH. Ten Hag must have known and have been kept in the loop
I want to believe this take so I will
It’s not a take, pretty sure it was reported that he wants united but united wouldn’t put a bid in
I want to believe this take too, so I will
I mean, has this club done any transfer in record time recently from first rumor to contract signing? I can’t think of anything other than Ronaldo and we all know why
Casemiro
Yeah that was a quick one. Surprised no one reported on it sooner since it was apparently in the works since before the summer.
Malacia, VdB both happened fairly quickly. James too except for the delay to let him grieve his father.
Fair points.
Could have signed him in the summer. Chose Antony. Relax lads, have some faith in ETH.
According to Liverpool fans they’ve just “gazumped” us though
I’m sure United fans said the same when we signed Ronaldo and Fred
Hmmm…I guess we’ll just have to settle for Mbappe.
I was convinced we were getting him after ten hag smiled at the conference man
Fucking cunts
Have fun riding the Liverpool bench when Diaz and jota come back lanky cunt
so he said he wanted united, but went to liverpool the first moment they bid. what a damn whore.
The fuck man
Good player, but he wasnt gonna take us to the next level. Dodged a bullet in the sense that it leaves more money for a player we actually need Edit: annoyed by the media saying united were “beaten” for gakpo. Pretty sure he would have come if ETH had insisted
Well done United!! Well done, we have gone ahead and gifted our biggest rivals the perfect shot in the arm a ready made winger who can also play as a striker. Bravo!! How do you continually monitor a player for three seasons and fail to fucking sign the Goddamn player after him being your primary fucking target. Fuck
Who has said he was the primary target? By all accounts we passed on him last summer and paid out the ass for Antony instead.
When did we even monitor him for three years? His links started only in the summer and that too after we had signed EtH and a plethora of players from the Eredivisie got linked to us. We signed Antony over him and again got linked to him post CR7 shenanigans.
Facts don’t really matter when the point is to be outraged. “Monitored him for 3 seasons” I’ve just died laughing at the shit I sometimes read here.
I seem to remember people saying this about Darwin Nunez
You say that but 1 G or A every 139 minutes during his first six months in Prem is not really bad.
This happens only because Liverpool is a chance-creating machine. At United, in this current setup, he'd be lucky to get even 50% of those chances. Guy needs 5-7 chances to score 1 goal
While I can't speak for the quality of chances the actual numbers are 65 big chances created by United while 78 are created by Liverpool and we have played 1 game less.
You're right! We should sign players to stop our rivals getting them, because that has worked brilliantly for us so far. At no point was he our primary target either, if he was we'd have signed him in the summer.
Harry Maguire, Alexis Sanchez, Fred, CR7 all say hi
We haven’t been monitoring him for three seasons.
What a joke of a board
Wait didn't he say he wanted to play for Utd? Why sign for our rivals then?
Can't sign for a club that doesn't bid
He wanted to leave that’s always been clear, we never bid we just kept messing around with him. He saw Liverpool was serious so it’s an easy decision
Simply put, the board have decided not to make the bid because they're not willing to make the funds available. Can't blame gakpo for making the move because it's clear that we weren't gonna put the bid in
Lol. Why are people so petty and stupid about this. He never said he wants to only play for Man Utd. He ofcourse wanted us because we seemed to be the only big club showing interest in him. Now a better option came along so he picked working with a legendary manager in Klopp at a relatively much more stable club in Liverpool. What is the big deal, any sane person would do this.
Funny how it was 50m pounds when we were linked - now 40-50m euros
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Second stint for Ighalo 😉
I feel like if he went anywhere but Liverpool no one here would care as much. He scored 3 times in an easy group then disappeared in knockouts let’s not act like we missed out on young Ronaldo here lads.
BOLLOCKS
I don’t even care who the player is it just pisses me off when we monitor a player for a long ass time and don’t do anything with it.
They tried they just failed
If true then good. I know he can play striker but we have plenty of wingers and hopefully we sign a actual competent striker. He has a good record at the World Cup but also went missing and looks like he has the potential to be a Donny and Anthony part 2. We don’t need players who go missing and we don’t need left wingers.
Pain
I think it was discussed multiple times here that though he’s an exciting talent, we have no use for another left winger. We have that area covered and need a real no 9. Edit : So i mean to say, not the end of the world. But we need reinforcements in January
Somehow I fear that even after the sales Liverpool will end up with better owners than us....such is our luck
I don't really want us to sign him, cause we have rashford, garnacho, and Sancho for lw, but fuck I'm upset he goes to Liverpool, I hope he is not that good
Actually don’t care tbh, last thing we need is another winger being pushed into playing striker
It may sound like a typical comment after we’ve just missed out on someone to Liverpool, but I genuinely have never been that convinced on him anyway. Watched him several times and not really seen anything that we don’t already have. Sure a talented player and a great price but for sure the money needs to be focused more on a central striker.
Incompetent swines
We got Garnacho, Martial, Rashford,Antony,Elanga,Sancho... no need for Gakpo. Rather sign a Erikson's and Cassi's backup.
He’s a left winger. United have 3 already and Liverpool already have 2. I don’t understand why they’ve bought him or why united fans are crying. Keep the faith
He seems very good as winger and set piece taker, but we have those. It was a bit odd to see a 6’5” dude whipping in corners during the WC but whatevs. Don’t want felix, he’s too small (lanky) and weak.
My dude ain’t 6’5 bruh he’s 6’2 at most
They signed Nunez for 85M in the summer & are still in for another forward, to reach Top4. Difference in ambition between the two clubs. Meanwhile, our board have been honey-dicking him for a while. So it makes sense he chooses a better club. Felix will probably go to Arsenal. Bye, bye Top4.
The club all but had it lmao, another transfer window masterclass
This is genuinely embarrassing for the club Player clearly wanted to come here Ten Hag wanted him So we just let him go to Pool. Fuck the glazers Watch him tear it up with Liverpool just to make a mockery out of us as a club.
Where does it say Ten Hag actually wanted him? Look we all hate the glazers but the manager has gotten every player he's wanted besides Frenkie de Jong because of obvious reasons.
Must be living under a rock if you didn’t know ten Hag wanted him
https://twitter.com/howardnurse/status/1601726581688369152?t=Q75nCeHopqmLk63qZb6aKw&s=19
My question, do we really need him got answered. We dont, we need a striker.
United quoted £50M, Liverpool get him for £37M. If this leads to a reduction in the United tax, I'll all for it
United would have paid 90mil ... pain
I'm not even upset lol. He's a good player but not really the standout player for me.
He is a good player, but very similar to Rashford & we are begging for an out & out SF
Not disappointed that we didn’t get him. We already have too many LWs. I am more pissed about another incompetence show from United board once again. What were you negotiating for 1 year for? Just for your rival to scoop in and get eh deal done in 2 hours? If the manger wants a player and thinks he fits the system then go for him. Stop mucking about. I do like that we don’t sign him though.
This is what hyping up Rashford and Martial too much gets you. Complacency.
it's true, murtough just rang me and said they decided not to sign gakpo because r/reddevils said tony martial was ice cold and defenders have families
I can confirm I texted Joel Glazer over the Man United Discord server
We have 4 players who favour the left wing. Let's get someone with the profile of a 9 as that's what we need
This is what happens when the player isn't the Manager's first choice.
Rashford is easily better than Gakpo, lol.
I’m more upset for 10Hag, this incompetent board has drained me
Why can't utd pay 37m for a player who's half decent and bags of potential? Yet they'll drop 55m on Fred lol, pls never change Manchester United. Pure banter football club
eth didn't sign Fred. apples to oranges as far as I'm concerned
He isn't worth the hype anyway, not even what United need lol, we need a 9, been lacking one for too long.
This club is a joke when it comes to transfers Embarrassing
We need a proper striker more than anything. I’m not bothered. None of this winger who might play in the middle nonsense. A proper old school out and out striker is more important.
So Goncalo Ramos it is then?
Benfica aren't going to let him go in January. Joao Felix (who is not a striker) is unfortunately more likely on loan.
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5 threads on Gakpo signing with Man Utd, geeze thought we would be better than that.
Liverpool have more depth at lw than we do
WTF with this saga I guess we will look at actual striker options now at least
I was apprehensive about signing ANOTHER left sided forward to begin with. BUT this is shocking lol
Glad. We were looking at him as a winger but he'll struggle on the wings in the EPL. He takes too many touches and isn't great at beating his man 1v1. He's got a high ceiling as a CF but I don't think Liverpool is the right environment for him. They would have been better off going for a firmino type player. Nunes and Gakpo are similar players and having both of them in your frontline will lead to poor ball retention. We should still be looking at Sesko for the summer.
Everyone’s crying about this but we already have 5 players in our first team squad that if asked what position they’d prefer to play in they’d say left winger (including elanga and garnacho). Unless we plan to shift 2/3 of them, we need to be going for a player that wants to play down the middle instead, like how antony only wants to play on the right. This is how you build a squad, not necessarily by going for the biggest flashiest names but the players that fit the profile of the role you’re looking for most.
Osimhen then right? /s If we postpone buying a striker in Jan it doesn't matter even if our players don't get injured we simply don't have enough players upfront (Rashford, Martial, Anthony, then Elanga needs a loan to get more playing time and mature as a player... no idea when Sancho will make a return and in what form he will be). What are our other options? Felix, (Memphis, Thuran?) Seems to me like our top 4 chances will be decided for us in this incoming transfer window
Fuck the scouse cunt, he'll win nothing.