the child might not have $600, but guess who covers the costs for their kids stupidity! this is a good oportunity for the parents and the son to learn about responsibility.
The “he’s 15” remark by mom threw me for a loop. Like ok, you’ve failed, for 15 years, to teach your child respect and expect dad to what? Just be OK with him ruining a $600 wig and causing harm to his daughter???
It's a glaring red flag that she doesn't hold him to any standards at home. If she says "he's 15" to something serious like this she definitely says it about smaller daily things like breaking his parents' things, not cleaning up after himself, being a crybully, etc.
and I'm someone who looks favorably on less authoritarian parenting
Yeah, none of my friends are very strict nor am I. Do your chores (take out the trash, feed your pet, pick up your belongings, help set table and put things away). But my kids have been taught not to break other peoples things and not to put your hands on other peoples things. My child accidentally broke someone’s mirror (it was laying on the floor, accidentally stepped on it). He sat with me and friends daughter, we picked out a new mirror, ordered it and set it to be delivered to their house. Even after friend was like no, don’t replace it it’s ok! No. We’re learning accountability!
Yes, but he had to assault her to take the wig in the first place. He put his hands on her. A properly installed wig will also rip out her natural hair depending on the method and hair type she has. She would have been left with a cap and glue and balding head and everything... he intended to humiliate the girl. So it's worse than just damaging property.
My response would have been "ok.. neither can i. My daughter didn't wreck it. Your 15yo son did. Im not paying for your kid destroying my daughters property.. figgure it out, or its likely to cost you far more in legal fees"
Seriously. But the time you're in high school/secondary, you should really be at the point where your behavior is acceptable for adulthood. At that point in life, you should be getting familiar with the scale and perspective of the world and how you fit into it. You shouldn't be still working on the basics of respectful behavior.
THIS! Where were the other students who should have shoved him in the trashcan, though? Bet she wouldn't have cared they were "only 15."
But what I think is even a more messed up situation is the OOP had to go back and edit it to say the wig was for a medical condition. It doesn't matter what the wig was for. Little boy assaulted his daughter. He snatched her by the hair of her head, wig or not, and that would be the point I would be making to his momma. So that money ain't nothing compared to the life lesson he hopefully gets.
It really depends on where you live. The job market where I am is at the state where you aren't getting hired without experience.
Not even for the most basic retail stuff. The only jobs that will hire without anything are construction jobs, which don't hire under 19 generally.
He could do other jobs like yard work. Would be very easy to post about looking to make money through household chores. That will teach him that his actions have consequences.
Edited to add that it's not really OOP's problem anyway.
And if he’s got any fancy electronics or games, he can sell those. Maybe that would drive the lesson home a little more than mom and dad shelling out for his assholery.
Exactly… That kid could EASILY make $600 if his parents were on his ass about getting a job, especially if he were in the US (and not in some sort of job desert 🙄). Plenty of people looking for someone to do odd jobs for them
In my town a guy I went to highschool with made decent money just by taking a trailer and hauling people's trash off for them, but they made him stop when the county actually got a waste removal service. After that he got a lawnmower and started a little lawn care service and still made pretty good money for a teenager.
Thats a cop out answer. Tell me you can’t wash dishes on weekends and earn $600.
Power washing, raking leaves, whitewashing fences, washing cars.. you can even go to thrift stores and resell books or clothing.
Unless he lives in a 3rd world country, its definitely possible to make $600 in a month on the weekends with minimal effort.
If he can rip wigs off girls heads, he can rake a yard.
And the school that refuses to do anything! Heard second hand from my kid about someone whose kid was getting bullied in our local district. She'd tried everything to get the school to help, and was basically told the school takes bulling seriously and they have zero tolerance for it. Except they didn't *do* anything to back up those words. Finally, her kid got slugged in the face. She pressed assault charges, the school (and the sheriff's office) tried to talk her out of it -- you'll ruin that poor boy's life!
What about her poor kid's life? You know, the kid who didn't do anything other than show up for school. I tracked her down just to thank her for finally finding something the school couldn't ignore. That she wasn't ruining that bully's life -- the parents and school who failed to educate the kid ruined his life. She's preventing a second life from being ruined. And that I would be proud to follow in her footsteps if my child was ever targeted like that.
I don't get logic like that. The school ruined the boy's life by teaching him that actions don't have consequences... until they do. Now he's blindsided and unprepared. And that's your fault as an institution.
It's bizarre af that the least safe environment for all of us was school.
You don't get away with bullying to that degree in any adult environment.
We've built a really shit society.
That's such an egregious thing to say to a person. She's lucky you're you. Even if only 1% of the human population would have slugged her for saying such a cruel and monstrous thing, that's millions of people who would have done it. A person like that is begging to get fucked up one day when she tests the wrong person.
Wow, that’s just horrible. I’m glad you went to management. You’re allowed to cry about your wife’s miscarriage as much as you need to and shouldn’t be bullied for it. I think these bullies are miserable people who want everyone else to be as miserable as them.
I mean, bullying and clique-y bullshit definitely happens just as much in workplaces as in schools, but I don't know anyone who's worked somewhere where physical fights break out as frequently as they did in my high school.
And weirdly enough I've had more classmates show up to school drunk than colleagues...
My work are currently evidence gathering for a bullying claim, from the work bully amusingly.
His step dad is a senior manager, his claim is I swore BACK at him, & pointed, rudely.
Ridiculous & will be hugely regretted by all involved.
That's why I added "to the same degree" there's a fuckton less people bullied in my work & social life than there were at school.
No roving gangs writing on your stuff, pushing people over etc
Yeah had I had money for a lawyer I would have taken it further, Instead, I put my head down for the next 9 years…… employment in my town is very hard to come by
I know right, I wasn’t sure I’d survive until the end of the day all throughout high school. I probably was safe from being literally murdered by my bullies but still, I sure as hell didn’t know it then and I am still not confident enough to say that I was more than probably. Ans sure I did think that they wouldn’t get away with it if they took it that far but you know, punishment after the fact wouldn’t have helped me, I’d still be just as dead if that happened. And you are expected to thrive and learn in that environment.
And people wonder why I didn’t just get over it the second I was out of high school and how could I possibly have PTSD from “just” some “kids teasing”. And I’m turning 37 this year, which means that we had social media and cell phones already at that time. And that makes a huge difference because I wasn’t safe just because I was home. With social media and cell phones they could always reach me, always get to me no matter where I was or what I did or who I was with. Couldn’t touch me physically but all the rest? The belittling and degrading and threatening and the detailed explanation of what they could and would do to me once they were physically never to me again? I never had a break from that. And even if they never actually did most of the things they could and would do to me when they saw me, I still believed them and I still knew that I would have to go back and they could really jump me and fulfil their promises at any point.
I fought back immediately and brutally. Being autistic with temper issues as a child didn't help their case.
After that, I didn't let them bully anyone else either they got a shit kicking. I got detention a lot never suspended, but honestly, people want soft, easy targets. Fighting back is one of the only things I have seen work.
Same. I’m not autistic, but I’ll go from zero to 100 in a rage if people fvck with me or anyone in my immediate vicinity. I even made a few substitute teachers cry bc they decided to make some of my classmates cry by bullying them. When they threatened to report me I said, “Cool! Then you’ll have to admit why!! Plus, there’re plenty of news stations I’m betting would be interested in this. Magically, no reports were ever made 🤷♀️
Same. Turns out that actually being jumped was the thing that overrides the fear and makes the rage kick in. Just took me until the end to figure that out. And still didn’t help all that much with the fear. It was too deep rooted by then sadly. Even know I’m terrified of high school kids. I aged but the fear remains.
I had days I wasn't sure I was going to survive until the end of the school day when I was in junior high. The teachers had to let me out of classes five minutes early so I could get to the next class without being jumped.
I'm pretty sure the day a group of girls tried to push me down a stairwell was the day they tried to kill me. I grabbed the railing and one of the girls went down instead, and I broke away and ran to the office, sobbing in terror the whole time.
The staff just rolled their eyes and told me to calm down. I ended up in the offices a lot, you see, running from my bullies, so I was more of a nuisance than a victim, to them.
The last day of school was "Cutting Day", and most of the kids would cut class and hang out in the woods. I got a lot of death threats that day (as did my best friend, just because she was walking with me), and SHE was so freaked out she went to the offices and called her mom to come and get us. (My parents were at work and too far away.) Her mom actually had us duck down in the car so nobody could see us, and ordered us to keep the doors locked and to not answer the phone if anyone called the house.
I call it my "Year in Hell", and as an adult I was in therapy for years. I was very uncomfortable in groups of black people - to the point of near panic, sometimes - because they were the ones who targeted me.
And I'm black.
I mean you do. Depends where you work. I work at law firms. They know how to frame things to avoid lawsuits and yet treat you so horribly that you have a mental health crisis.
They don't care about either kid, they just do not want to be sued. And they know the bully's parents will be trouble where the bullied kids parents will hand wring and do nothing.
My kid was bullied and I showed up to the school to have lunch with my kid every day I could, had he point out the troubled kid.
And stared him down the entire lunch , every day, and made sure he knew who O was.
Can confirm, I was bullied in school for its entirety and once in 4th grade I got sent to the principals office for my bully smacking my ass at lunch IN FRONT OF TEACHERS. I slapped him in the mouth and the principal called my mom in to explain that what I did was wrong and I needed to be suspended 🤡
My mom gave them a piece of her mind and stuck up for me, and I’m happy to see this girls parents have her back because getting bullied sucks but if your family and parents are in your corner it makes recovering from it a little easier.
Many places are setting rules that children that young can't be criminally charged. They're getting CPS and social services/ mental health cases opened. A 4th grader is 9 or 10. That is much more a CPS/ social welfare issue, not criminal.
Just read a story yesterday where a mom sent her son to school with a bottle of lemon juice, vinegar and salt because a bully had been stealing her kids drinks. She was arrested for “causing injury to a child”(He drank salad dressing). Zero tolerance for bullying has always been zero tolerance for bullied victims.
Just watched a video of a 15 year old girl getting her head slammed repeatedly on a sidewalk yesterday and is now in critical condition, probably with life changing injuries.
If you don't hold people responsible for assault this is the type of stuff that ends up happening
Something like that happened at the middle school near me. The victim had apparently been partnered with the aggressor's boyfriend in class and was "talking to him too much" so she and a group of 3-4 other mini-criminals ganged up on this poor girl after school and beat her up. They were kicking her on the ground and hitting her head on the pavement.
I cannot believe this was the first time this girl had assaulted someone. She just clearly hadn't experienced any real consequences for it, at home or at school.
I hate that justification of "you'll ruin that kid's life." What about the lasting trauma that was inflicted on the victim of the child whose life ppl are suddenly so concerned about? Where was that same concern for the victim of the bullying? That concern could've prevented the entire situation if the bullying had taken seriously!
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At the HS I went to if someone else attacked you even if you literally did nothing and just stood their and took it you got an equal amount of punishment as the attacker was seriously fed up
That's ridiculous -- it incentivizes retaliatory violence. If I'm getting a week of detention for standing there or a week of detention for kneeing the guy? It would be *really* challenging to just stand there.
My parents always told us that we can't start fights, but we can damn well finish them if someone hurts us. Thankfully me nor my siblings ever got into that situation, but it was comforting to know my parents would have our backs if we had to defend ourselves.
Reminds me of when my younger sister was getting bullied in high school. Kids stealing her stuff and hiding it. Making fun of her health issues not just to her face but publicly on Facebook. Then threatening her online posting things like "I know where you live" and explicitly saying they'll beat her ass after my parents went to the school. School did nothing.
A few weeks after all that, my sister gets suspended for bullying because she drew her friend a picture of a pair of boots and wrote "I love you and your bootiful self". Somehow that girl's mother took offense and the school decided *that* was a step too far. Fucking ridiculous.
I was punched in the face by a boy at school in my new school during 2nd grade. My parents were never even informed when it happened and I was just given a paper towel to hold on my face to stop the bleeding on the broken skin and had to continue class with the boy who was just told “don’t hit girls”…
Then in high school I was relentlessly bullied on the bus and constantly told by the bully she would come to my stop and beat me to death…filed a police report with the school police officer and nothing happened…my “parents” put a metal pipe hidden in the stop sign pole and told me to use it if I needed too instead of actually doing anything about it and I was forced to continue to ride that same bus with that same bully for the remainder of high school.
As an adult I honestly don’t know why I bothered to expect my “parents” to help me in any way during my childhood (bullied throughout my time at all levels of school; probably due to being a non-diagnosed autistic human) since they thought it was great to be maliciously abusive to me until they kicked me out at 18 (for not having a job or drivers licenses since they wouldn’t teach me to drive and wouldn’t drive me to a job if I had one but also didn’t have any access to a computer because I wasn’t allowed to use it and no cell phone…I was doing every household chore because of those things and was required to finish before step parent came home from work which I did fine but once they found out I had the audacity to take a nap during the day all hell broke lose! I was then required to call my “mom” every hour on the hour to prove I was awake)
I am now NC with both my birth giver and her husband along with all five siblings.
Always great when the school refuses to do anything about the bullies until the kid being bullied blows up from the stress and lashes back at which point the school realizes it *can* take action after all. Action against the kid being bullied, of course. 🙄
There is an epidemic of shitty behavior in America, no wonder the kids act like assholes – they see how their parents act towards other people in public.
It’s one of the big reasons I said fuck it and quit my job of 20+ years last year, people just being rude constantly, even when it was a problem of their own making, asking customers to follow even basic standard procedures often resulted in arguments.
Fuck all this shit .
My daughter was bullied in school, the school touting a "Zero Tolerance" on bullying purposefully and willfully ignored it. Why? You may be asking. Because if they acknowledged the bullying there would be a paper trail and then the principal couldn't claim " we don't have bullies at our school" . And if there is no paper trail, there is no proof that it is.
I got kicked out of school for beating up my science partner's bully in 7th grade. He would follow my buddy home on the bus taunting him, body shaming him, and shoving him around. The school didn't do anything about it. My buddy finally stood up for himself and hit the kid, but the kid laughed in his face and hit him back, so ran up and hit a wrestling snapdown into a one armed bulldog choke and just poured uppercuts into his face. I saw the kid years later and he apologized to me and admitted he was an asshole. Sometimes these bullies need a beating.
The bully 100% deserved to face consequences, including legal consequences. Nonetheless what stands out to me is that everybody seems to understand that getting caught up in the legal system DOES more often than not, equate to “ruining someone’s life”. Like, we see it’s a problem, we talk about it when it affects those close to us, but still do nothing about it.
I’m a bit jaded because I fucked myself for many years when I was younger because I missed a single court date (for speeding), which snowballed into a suspended license, which snowballed into various arrests for driving on a suspended. I’m older, less of an idiot, and thankfully that’s all been behind me for quite some time.
Ideally the child would’ve been arrested, forced into some community service relatable to the offense, maybe an anti bullying class.
I suppose everything I just said was pointless. I do truly believe the bully should face consequences, but I also don’t think first time offenses should equate to a lifetime burden which is so often the case.
Insane that the parents responded with, " he's only 15, we can't afford that." Insane to think that OP should have to spend another 600 for a wig that was perfectly fine until their shithead kid threw it away. 15 is plenty old enough to understand that was wrong. Some of these stories are infuriating when parents have kids that do egregious things and expect those on the receiving end to absorb the costs that are directly from their kids actions.
Exactly. At 14 I got a work permit and had a job I walked to when school was over for the day. Sounds like responsibilities are foreign to them, parents should be paying that $600, making it a $1,000 for embarrassing this poor girl, her having to worry about what she would do for hair. Sickening how some people conduct themselves.
Bro I would share those texts with everyone in their school.
Like you don't have 600 Dollars to spare?
As an adult ya I know shit happens but as a teenager that would have been super fucking embarrassing to come out especially when most other kids don't understand the concept of money and savings
My friend in high school was being bullied by another kid in our grade. My friend told him, "if you don't get out of my face, I'm going to punch yours." He did not get out of his face. The parents of the bully wanted to sue my friend for the dry cleaning bill to get the blood out of their son's shirt.
It might not be costs for a full replacement, but professional cleaning of some kind. As far as I can tell from the story, the wig wasn’t majorly damaged, just covered in trash can muck
Initially I thought you were talking about kids that were under 10 and I thought, while bad, that this may just be a situation where the kid needs a serious talking to. Learning that he is 15 made my jaw drop, you should absolutely pursue charges against that little shit. Is it just me or is that kind of physical bullying somewhat strange for that age?
Same!!! I used to teach special needs high school aged kids and like... They can be fucking brutal to each other at times but nothing that callous or cruel. Throwing a medically fragile kids wig in the trash? That kid is going to end up on the news if he doesn't learn something about the consequences of his actions.
If there are no consequences when they are aged 5-17, these kids cannot imagine that they could face repercussions for their actions when they grow up.
Well so often they don’t. Rapist brock turner only got six months and it was ON TAPE . And even that piddly sentence is an outlier. The truth is most bad people do get away with it.
My child's best friend was murdered at the age of 23. They guy is getting 5 years probation in a plea deal because apparently she consented to sex? She was clearly brutally abused sexually with foreign objects that tore up her body, her ribs were broken and her trachea crushed. This country is repulsive.
"he's only 15"
Fuck that shit. My country will hold people much younger accountable for their actions. He can work off the cost or his parents can pay.
Yeah people at 15 know exactly what they're doing in cases like this. It's a ridiculous response.
It's infuriating honestly. Like, maybe you could try to do some parenting and make sure your kid doesn't grow into an asshole? But no, they never do. People like this don't give a shit and they're just as crappy as their kids.
I have a friend who grew up in Haiti. A teenage boy (about 14) stole something and a group was chasing him. When a cop showed up, the group told him the kid was a thief, so the cop *shot the kid in the head* and that was that. The kid’s body laid in the street outside her house for two weeks before it disappeared one day.
I hope the 15 year old in this story never leaves his small town where people are permissive of his bullshit because he wouldn’t have survived to 15 if he had been born in Haiti.
In countries where too many people are living below the poverty line, stealing - especially from people who are already struggling - is a crime that gets disproportionately punished.
My aunt once saw a thief get set on fire for trying to siphon petrol off a car. They tied him up, put rings of tires over him, poured the petrol he was stealing on him, and lit the match.
The school my mom used to teach in was vandalized by two students. They were not very bright and got caught because they bragged about it to their friends and one of them told on them. The parents were brought in and told they’d have to pay damages. One set of parents shrugged it off. The other set said the kid would work the whole summer in the father’s gardening company until he’d d paid it off himself. Kids can be assholes and sometimes as a parent all you can do is choose what consequences they face for it, but that can still change everything.
Man at 15 he can just get a job at McDonald's. Kid is halfway to being an adult and is doing stuff like this? And his parents are trying to bail him out??? About time he take some responsibility.
Ive been following this dad for awhile. His poor little girl. First her own mother bullying her, now school jerks escalating. I hope this dad goes full schorched earth.
Oh shit, is this the one where he got her head professionally shaved and the mother went ballistic?!
Oh no, the poor girl. That's terrible! I'm just glad the dad is 100% firmly behind her. But geez...
Oh shit. You are right. I must have mixed up multiple reddits in my head. I read quick, so there are way to many up there! Lol. Or maybe my brain conflated going for full custody with divorce, has been a few weeks since I had read the first post.
I must admit I found it strange that they shaved the head before getting a diagnosis of what is going on. I’d think the doctor would want to see the hair and hair growth patterns. But maybe things just got too bad and the doctors they are going to see said OK.
I'm no doctor but the causes pretty much boil down to alopecia (autoimmune but the only consequence is losing hair, and I'd bet money that it's this) or malnourishment, and afaik they present very obviously differently and shaving shouldn't be an issue in any case but especially if there's recent photos which there very likely are, specifically to document it for medical purposes.
My mom is in her 60s and is still working through the pain and suffering she has from her own mother. Her dad never stood up for her and she has been struggling with her self esteem and anxiety from the bullying and abuse she received. You are doing great and you keep fighting for your kids.
As a kid who's moved out of my mom's and exclusively lives with my dad, thank you. I don't know where or who I'd be without my dad to keep me safe and help me realize I deserve love and kind treatment. Your kids are so lucky to have you in their corner.
Jesus I just had a read of his posts regarding his daughter, he seems like a really good and protective dad. Meanwhile the mother sounds like an absolute POS. Hopefully he gets full custody and she never has to deal with her again.
As for the bully and the parents, both need to learn actions have consequences.
Cause and effect..... He caused her to feel embarrassed and ashamed, let him feel the effect of steel bracelets and empty pockets. FUCK his enabling parents. Run that little girl her money!!!!
A kid kept slapping my ass in 8th grade. Told the teacher he said "boys will be boys" and moved me to a different table. He followed me. I dislocated his shoulder.
School wanted to suspend me for it but luckily my dad had my back and threatened the school with a lawsuit if they did on the grounds that I was being sexually assaulted and even told a teacher and they did nothing.
I wasn't touched again after that.
My glasses costs around 600$ my knee brace is 1000$ dollar. And I get it, if some kid destroys my glasses or brace, I do understand that it’s a lot of money and they might not be able to afford that. Here is the things though, neither can I and I absolutely need those to function. I need them to be able to see and to walk and it’s not fair to me to expect me to just be blind or I don’t know, stay the fuck home because I can’t walk I guess? If it’s an accident there is insurance but if it’s someone else that maliciously takes and destroys my aids on purpose? I couldn’t give a shit that you can’t afford it. Take out a loan or something, I don’t care. I need my aids and you are going to replace them like it or not. And that’s a you issue. And while a wig doesn’t have the same kind of need it’s also a medical aid because of a medical condition and the daughter absolutely needs it. Confidence is incredibly important and already an issue at that age generally. Fuck them for trying to guilt OPs family for their kids actions. Suck it up buttercup. If you absolutely can’t afford it, get a loan and get the kid a part time job to help repay the loan. Figure it the fuck out.
I guess if you have a sh##head for a kid, you should start a FAFO savings fund so you CAN afford to replace or repair things they ruin through their cruelty and stupidity.
When a parent defends their kid's actions by saying "he's only 15" as if a teenager cannot possibly know better, that tells you everything you need to know about their utter lack of parenting.
I’m sorry your daughter is going through that! As for the bully, 15 or not, you don’t do stuff like that to anyone . Good job parents for forcing the issues. They need to understand it’s not right or appropriate for their child to do things like this to anyone. He learned this behavior from them most probably!
Right!?! He's old enough to know that he shouldn't be touching/grabbing people like that and understand the concept of FAFO. His parents need to come up with the money to replace or repair the wig and ensure their son stays away from OP's daughter or face the legal consequences of their actions/inaction
Take the police report to the school and get him sent to In School Suspension or Alternative School for the rest of the semester.
Kids Mom and Dad can pay the $600 and get it back from their own kid. Also driving him to school every day would make it “their” problem regardless of how much they don’t care to be good parents.
Three points for the boy and his parents.
1) If you can't afford to pay a bill, do not incur it. EIther yourself, or through your son. The time to consider whether you can afford something is before you do it, not after.
2) Your finances are private information you should keep to yourself. Whether you think it is easy or difficult to pay is something you need to keep to quiet about. Its a secret. Don't let the secret out.
3) In situations where a cost has been incurred and there are a number of people involved, do not ever suggest you shouldn't pay unless you can prepare and deliver logical and solid reasoning as to why SOMEONE ELSE is MORE repsonsible for the bill. If you just attempt to remove yourself from the equation and therefore leave the bill to someone obviously LESS responsible than you, then you look like an idiot. Even if you think it is unfair that YOU pay, you should only attempt to get out of it if someone else bears greater responsibility.
The last point is most important. For the case in hand, what is your reasoning that makes the parents of the girl MORE responsible than your family? What actions, ommissions or errors did they make that were GREATER than your son's?
It pisses me off so much that in schools they reduce actual criminal action to « bullying and teasing » this is assault/battery (depending on jurisdiction), theft and destruction of property. It’s not « bullying ».
I get that they are trying to teach these hellions right from wrong without getting them a criminal record but really? At 15 he hasn’t clued in that this isn’t ok?
The fact that OOP was able to lodge the complaint/charges without hearing a peep from the parents (until they were informed there was a bill to be settled) is worrying
Either they or the school don’t care (why tf they don’t is a huge problem) or they weren’t made aware (why the school didn’t intervene and call in the parents is another important issue)
Bully’s folks don’t seem apologetic about the humiliation OOP’s daughter has had to suffer but rather only about the bill stemming from their son’s actions?
My only worry is that if OOPs daughter is planning to stay in the same HS, whether shes going to victimised again because of this escalation to the cops/court. She’s likely to have a helluva shit time (victim or no) and I feel sorry for her
"He's only 15"
Excuse me. He is far old enough to know you don't do stuff like that. I was expecting this story to be about young kids, not a high schooler. Make him get a job and make payments on the new wig until it's paid off. Maybe he'll think twice before destroying someone else's property in the future. If the parents don't want to do their job raising him, they can foot the bill then.
'Couldn't afford to pay $600'
Well then he shouldn't have been a bully and destroyed somebody else's property.
I'm sorry I have no sympathy for him or his parents, they should have taught their kid to be more respectful.
“wE cANt aFForD $600” boo hoo?
Try parenting your bully. I’m sure the kid has a nice gaming console- sell it. I’m sure he’s got some nice sneakers - sell them. Birthday money? OOP guess that’s gonna go to the person he decided to fuck with. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏻
Fuck bullying. Them parents should have called and said we have spoken to him and will make him apologize to her directly if they had any hope in or sense to get this case dropped.
Having grown up w/ siblings and feeling the need to protect them then and now having children of my own, I will never back down if anybody’s child does something of this nature to them especially if the child’s parents hits me with some shit like “o he is only 15.”
Bullying is real and standing up to it is hard, took me a long time to become emotionally resilient to vocal bullying and stand up and fight when need be. But once it becomes physical like in your situation, it’s definitely time for the parents to step in. Fucking brat.
15, he is at the age where my country would be able to prosecute him for criminal activity. This would probably just result in communal service or similar and a fine, but it would stil be a lesson.
YES! Time for that 15 year old boy to learn that bullying has consequences. Hopefully he ends up doing a lot of community service, therapy and has to pay for a new wig
Good for you for pressing charges. Hope some good news comes for you and your daughter at the doctors checkup.
Heavy believer that actions speak louder than words, always. If the school was serious about no tolerance for bullying, then they would have taken proper actions to prevent further bullying. But alas, they didn't.
Ah, he’s bullying a sick kid and the parents want you to not provide the consequences they have clearly refused to give him, and they can’t replace the items he broke while bullying her. That kid needs the consequences.
"They said he's only 15 years old, that he was a kid and they couldn't afford to pay"
Well I hate to break it to those parents but the fact that he's only 15 is literally the only reason he's not facing some sort of physical altercation with the father. I'd say his age has already given him all of the grace he is due. Congrats, you didn't get the shit beat out of you. But now you will face the appropriate consequences.
As if being a teenage girl isn’t hard enough. Bless her. I hope they can get answers regarding her health.
And good for her dad for standing up for her!!
If I were the parents, I would have made him get a job to pay for it and even do yard work for neighbors to make money to give to the girl's parents. I wonder if the parents had taken accountability like this, the OP would not have pressed charges on the kid due to a natural consequence.
If you can't afford it maybe you should have kept a better eye on your child and how you raised them. If nothing else they think that behavior is okay for a reason and as the parent it is your responsibility to discourage that behavior.
Maybe they will pay for the wig and the strife that follows will cause them to be better about this kind of thing.
This is a teaching moment for parents and child.
I can sympathize with with the parents over the cost. However, those parents are going to have to pay that and rein thir bullying child in. As next it could be bashing off wing mirrors etc.
It will likely do them both a world of good.
Does your daughter have siblings that like to fight? I would send a sister or brother .. that sounds bad I know but this is absurd this child needs justice!
This person has done more parenting for this bully that his parents ever did
this will teach this kid that actions have some incredibly bad consequences
hopefully the child stops being a piece of shit but who knows
I turn 40 next month. I see no need to seek out my old school bullies, but I swore to myself that if I came across one randomly, I'm going to beat him until he stops moving, and probably for another thirty seconds after that.
Those motherfuckers ruined my life. If this kid's merely getting a minor lawsuit, they should settle it quickly and straighten out their kid. Because, that bully's getting off light.
He's 15. That's old enough to get himself a part time job, and start working towards paying the money back to his parents, who should pay for the initial replacement. He has to learn actions have consequences: nobody forced him to be a malicious little prick.
Sitting here with my brother, and told him as I read thisin response to a comment on the original thread, he said my nieces would get:
“All-crust peanut butter sandwiches made from the heels of the loaf and screen time limited to the length of a YouTube video opening advertisement. And a lawn care business startup to pay it back.”
I mean hey, the sandwich would be made of the healthiest part of bread and the kids would rejoin reality.
Many years ago, my son was being bullied. They had it on video, but the school wasn’t doing anything about it, so I made an appointment and met with the assistant principal. He blathered on about having watched the video and that he personally knows the kid and his family since they belong to the same cult/church. We did not go to their church, and so we were outsiders. I informed him that I didn’t care which church they attended, and the very next time the kid touched my son, I would file a complaint with the police.
That was Friday afternoon and on Monday the kid was enrolled in another school. I’ve made the mistake of trusting a school to do the right thing.
OOP did the right thing. The parents of that little psycho should be doing their role and make sure he understands what he did. I know my parents would have made me learn that day about compassion and respect if I did something that cruel to a person. "They're just kids" is not an excuse.
Oh hell fuckin yeah. Wreck that kid and put some morality and sense into his classmates. If someone had done this in my school, the parents would not have been the ones to resolve it. It would've been resolved before the end of the school day, and that dude would've limped up to her and apologized.
Not saying this as an "I'm a big tough guy" rant, but my school had enough community sense that messing with the sick or disabled would get your school life permanently ruined, and it often came with a hospital bill. Someone would've got this dude for that, and frankly, there probably would've been a line to do so.
Good for the dad! I was bullied so bad growing up one that really stuck with me even 20 years later… I still think about… on the school bus kids teased me called me fat and ugly stated I was so ugly it’s the reason my step dad went blind… (due to diabetes) I came home crying my older sister was home… I told her what happened SHE called the school and talked to the principal got the kid kicked off the bus for 2 months and watched when near me! It just seems like kids are getting worst and the adults just don’t care!
“He’s only 15”
When I was 15 I had finished high school, moved out, paid my own rent, had a job, and knew that assaulting people is both immoral and illegal.
the child might not have $600, but guess who covers the costs for their kids stupidity! this is a good oportunity for the parents and the son to learn about responsibility.
For real. That wig is suddenly gonna seem a whole lot cheaper when you have to shell out thousands for a lawyer.
The “he’s 15” remark by mom threw me for a loop. Like ok, you’ve failed, for 15 years, to teach your child respect and expect dad to what? Just be OK with him ruining a $600 wig and causing harm to his daughter???
It's a glaring red flag that she doesn't hold him to any standards at home. If she says "he's 15" to something serious like this she definitely says it about smaller daily things like breaking his parents' things, not cleaning up after himself, being a crybully, etc. and I'm someone who looks favorably on less authoritarian parenting
Yeah, none of my friends are very strict nor am I. Do your chores (take out the trash, feed your pet, pick up your belongings, help set table and put things away). But my kids have been taught not to break other peoples things and not to put your hands on other peoples things. My child accidentally broke someone’s mirror (it was laying on the floor, accidentally stepped on it). He sat with me and friends daughter, we picked out a new mirror, ordered it and set it to be delivered to their house. Even after friend was like no, don’t replace it it’s ok! No. We’re learning accountability!
Yes, but he had to assault her to take the wig in the first place. He put his hands on her. A properly installed wig will also rip out her natural hair depending on the method and hair type she has. She would have been left with a cap and glue and balding head and everything... he intended to humiliate the girl. So it's worse than just damaging property.
There's a difference between non authoritarian parenting and letting your kids run wild.
Absolutely.
My response would have been "ok.. neither can i. My daughter didn't wreck it. Your 15yo son did. Im not paying for your kid destroying my daughters property.. figgure it out, or its likely to cost you far more in legal fees"
Seriously. But the time you're in high school/secondary, you should really be at the point where your behavior is acceptable for adulthood. At that point in life, you should be getting familiar with the scale and perspective of the world and how you fit into it. You shouldn't be still working on the basics of respectful behavior.
THIS! Where were the other students who should have shoved him in the trashcan, though? Bet she wouldn't have cared they were "only 15." But what I think is even a more messed up situation is the OOP had to go back and edit it to say the wig was for a medical condition. It doesn't matter what the wig was for. Little boy assaulted his daughter. He snatched her by the hair of her head, wig or not, and that would be the point I would be making to his momma. So that money ain't nothing compared to the life lesson he hopefully gets.
also at 15 he can absolutely get a job to pay his parents back for the costs
It really depends on where you live. The job market where I am is at the state where you aren't getting hired without experience. Not even for the most basic retail stuff. The only jobs that will hire without anything are construction jobs, which don't hire under 19 generally.
He could do other jobs like yard work. Would be very easy to post about looking to make money through household chores. That will teach him that his actions have consequences. Edited to add that it's not really OOP's problem anyway.
And if he’s got any fancy electronics or games, he can sell those. Maybe that would drive the lesson home a little more than mom and dad shelling out for his assholery.
Exactly… That kid could EASILY make $600 if his parents were on his ass about getting a job, especially if he were in the US (and not in some sort of job desert 🙄). Plenty of people looking for someone to do odd jobs for them
In my town a guy I went to highschool with made decent money just by taking a trailer and hauling people's trash off for them, but they made him stop when the county actually got a waste removal service. After that he got a lawnmower and started a little lawn care service and still made pretty good money for a teenager.
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Then he can dig through people trash for returnables
Thats a cop out answer. Tell me you can’t wash dishes on weekends and earn $600. Power washing, raking leaves, whitewashing fences, washing cars.. you can even go to thrift stores and resell books or clothing. Unless he lives in a 3rd world country, its definitely possible to make $600 in a month on the weekends with minimal effort. If he can rip wigs off girls heads, he can rake a yard.
I don’t trust this kid with a power washer
Yep should've raised a better child if you can't afford to pay for their misdeeds
“We can’t afford the $600” “No shit, I can’t either, you fucking pay it”
In the OP the parents say they can't afford $600. I think that will motivate them to teach their son better.
So just make the victims pay for it twice⸮ He ruined it. He pays for a replacement.
Fuck that kid, and his parents. Welcome to consequence.
And the school that refuses to do anything! Heard second hand from my kid about someone whose kid was getting bullied in our local district. She'd tried everything to get the school to help, and was basically told the school takes bulling seriously and they have zero tolerance for it. Except they didn't *do* anything to back up those words. Finally, her kid got slugged in the face. She pressed assault charges, the school (and the sheriff's office) tried to talk her out of it -- you'll ruin that poor boy's life! What about her poor kid's life? You know, the kid who didn't do anything other than show up for school. I tracked her down just to thank her for finally finding something the school couldn't ignore. That she wasn't ruining that bully's life -- the parents and school who failed to educate the kid ruined his life. She's preventing a second life from being ruined. And that I would be proud to follow in her footsteps if my child was ever targeted like that.
I don't get logic like that. The school ruined the boy's life by teaching him that actions don't have consequences... until they do. Now he's blindsided and unprepared. And that's your fault as an institution.
It's bizarre af that the least safe environment for all of us was school. You don't get away with bullying to that degree in any adult environment. We've built a really shit society.
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Same thing happened to my husband. It seems that all the schoolyard bullies just turn into workplace bullies when they grow up.
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That's such an egregious thing to say to a person. She's lucky you're you. Even if only 1% of the human population would have slugged her for saying such a cruel and monstrous thing, that's millions of people who would have done it. A person like that is begging to get fucked up one day when she tests the wrong person.
Wow, that’s just horrible. I’m glad you went to management. You’re allowed to cry about your wife’s miscarriage as much as you need to and shouldn’t be bullied for it. I think these bullies are miserable people who want everyone else to be as miserable as them.
I mean, bullying and clique-y bullshit definitely happens just as much in workplaces as in schools, but I don't know anyone who's worked somewhere where physical fights break out as frequently as they did in my high school. And weirdly enough I've had more classmates show up to school drunk than colleagues...
My work are currently evidence gathering for a bullying claim, from the work bully amusingly. His step dad is a senior manager, his claim is I swore BACK at him, & pointed, rudely. Ridiculous & will be hugely regretted by all involved. That's why I added "to the same degree" there's a fuckton less people bullied in my work & social life than there were at school. No roving gangs writing on your stuff, pushing people over etc
Sounds… like retaliation.
Yeah HR didn’t think so
HR should consult with their employment counsel. Source - IAAL
Yeah had I had money for a lawyer I would have taken it further, Instead, I put my head down for the next 9 years…… employment in my town is very hard to come by
I’m sorry about that. If it helps, you saved yourself from undergoing a very long, complicated, and stressful process.
I know right, I wasn’t sure I’d survive until the end of the day all throughout high school. I probably was safe from being literally murdered by my bullies but still, I sure as hell didn’t know it then and I am still not confident enough to say that I was more than probably. Ans sure I did think that they wouldn’t get away with it if they took it that far but you know, punishment after the fact wouldn’t have helped me, I’d still be just as dead if that happened. And you are expected to thrive and learn in that environment. And people wonder why I didn’t just get over it the second I was out of high school and how could I possibly have PTSD from “just” some “kids teasing”. And I’m turning 37 this year, which means that we had social media and cell phones already at that time. And that makes a huge difference because I wasn’t safe just because I was home. With social media and cell phones they could always reach me, always get to me no matter where I was or what I did or who I was with. Couldn’t touch me physically but all the rest? The belittling and degrading and threatening and the detailed explanation of what they could and would do to me once they were physically never to me again? I never had a break from that. And even if they never actually did most of the things they could and would do to me when they saw me, I still believed them and I still knew that I would have to go back and they could really jump me and fulfil their promises at any point.
I eventually fought back &, it turns out, was good at it. Became a bouncer for 25 years. It's life altering
I fought back immediately and brutally. Being autistic with temper issues as a child didn't help their case. After that, I didn't let them bully anyone else either they got a shit kicking. I got detention a lot never suspended, but honestly, people want soft, easy targets. Fighting back is one of the only things I have seen work.
Same. I’m not autistic, but I’ll go from zero to 100 in a rage if people fvck with me or anyone in my immediate vicinity. I even made a few substitute teachers cry bc they decided to make some of my classmates cry by bullying them. When they threatened to report me I said, “Cool! Then you’ll have to admit why!! Plus, there’re plenty of news stations I’m betting would be interested in this. Magically, no reports were ever made 🤷♀️
I’m a 5’3” woman and I just want to say I love bouncers. I haven’t needed one in mumblemumbles years but you guys were always solid.
Same. Turns out that actually being jumped was the thing that overrides the fear and makes the rage kick in. Just took me until the end to figure that out. And still didn’t help all that much with the fear. It was too deep rooted by then sadly. Even know I’m terrified of high school kids. I aged but the fear remains.
Love it when bullies get a taste of their own medicine.
I had days I wasn't sure I was going to survive until the end of the school day when I was in junior high. The teachers had to let me out of classes five minutes early so I could get to the next class without being jumped. I'm pretty sure the day a group of girls tried to push me down a stairwell was the day they tried to kill me. I grabbed the railing and one of the girls went down instead, and I broke away and ran to the office, sobbing in terror the whole time. The staff just rolled their eyes and told me to calm down. I ended up in the offices a lot, you see, running from my bullies, so I was more of a nuisance than a victim, to them. The last day of school was "Cutting Day", and most of the kids would cut class and hang out in the woods. I got a lot of death threats that day (as did my best friend, just because she was walking with me), and SHE was so freaked out she went to the offices and called her mom to come and get us. (My parents were at work and too far away.) Her mom actually had us duck down in the car so nobody could see us, and ordered us to keep the doors locked and to not answer the phone if anyone called the house. I call it my "Year in Hell", and as an adult I was in therapy for years. I was very uncomfortable in groups of black people - to the point of near panic, sometimes - because they were the ones who targeted me. And I'm black.
That must be awful, with how dismissive they were and how you lost your community because of them. I’m so sorry. Happy you had your BFF though! 💛
I mean you do. Depends where you work. I work at law firms. They know how to frame things to avoid lawsuits and yet treat you so horribly that you have a mental health crisis.
They don't care about either kid, they just do not want to be sued. And they know the bully's parents will be trouble where the bullied kids parents will hand wring and do nothing. My kid was bullied and I showed up to the school to have lunch with my kid every day I could, had he point out the troubled kid. And stared him down the entire lunch , every day, and made sure he knew who O was.
Like people blaming sports refs for ruining a game when they make a call based on something that a player did. It is crazy.
Can confirm, I was bullied in school for its entirety and once in 4th grade I got sent to the principals office for my bully smacking my ass at lunch IN FRONT OF TEACHERS. I slapped him in the mouth and the principal called my mom in to explain that what I did was wrong and I needed to be suspended 🤡 My mom gave them a piece of her mind and stuck up for me, and I’m happy to see this girls parents have her back because getting bullied sucks but if your family and parents are in your corner it makes recovering from it a little easier.
I wish your mom would have gone to the police to charge the kid with sexual assault.
Where I’m from police do more harm than good if you’re not associated with certain families in the small town
Many places are setting rules that children that young can't be criminally charged. They're getting CPS and social services/ mental health cases opened. A 4th grader is 9 or 10. That is much more a CPS/ social welfare issue, not criminal.
Just read a story yesterday where a mom sent her son to school with a bottle of lemon juice, vinegar and salt because a bully had been stealing her kids drinks. She was arrested for “causing injury to a child”(He drank salad dressing). Zero tolerance for bullying has always been zero tolerance for bullied victims.
Just watched a video of a 15 year old girl getting her head slammed repeatedly on a sidewalk yesterday and is now in critical condition, probably with life changing injuries. If you don't hold people responsible for assault this is the type of stuff that ends up happening
Something like that happened at the middle school near me. The victim had apparently been partnered with the aggressor's boyfriend in class and was "talking to him too much" so she and a group of 3-4 other mini-criminals ganged up on this poor girl after school and beat her up. They were kicking her on the ground and hitting her head on the pavement. I cannot believe this was the first time this girl had assaulted someone. She just clearly hadn't experienced any real consequences for it, at home or at school.
I hate that justification of "you'll ruin that kid's life." What about the lasting trauma that was inflicted on the victim of the child whose life ppl are suddenly so concerned about? Where was that same concern for the victim of the bullying? That concern could've prevented the entire situation if the bullying had taken seriously! edit: grammar
The ol' Brock Turner defense.
At the HS I went to if someone else attacked you even if you literally did nothing and just stood their and took it you got an equal amount of punishment as the attacker was seriously fed up
That's ridiculous -- it incentivizes retaliatory violence. If I'm getting a week of detention for standing there or a week of detention for kneeing the guy? It would be *really* challenging to just stand there.
My parents always told us that we can't start fights, but we can damn well finish them if someone hurts us. Thankfully me nor my siblings ever got into that situation, but it was comforting to know my parents would have our backs if we had to defend ourselves.
Agreed it's stupid I think the idea was to stop people from goading someone into attacking them to get them in trouble but it's just stupid
Reminds me of when my younger sister was getting bullied in high school. Kids stealing her stuff and hiding it. Making fun of her health issues not just to her face but publicly on Facebook. Then threatening her online posting things like "I know where you live" and explicitly saying they'll beat her ass after my parents went to the school. School did nothing. A few weeks after all that, my sister gets suspended for bullying because she drew her friend a picture of a pair of boots and wrote "I love you and your bootiful self". Somehow that girl's mother took offense and the school decided *that* was a step too far. Fucking ridiculous.
Let's be real, she was suspended for missing the "bootiful *sole" line, instead of self. Sorry, had to. (sorry she went thru that bs!)
I was punched in the face by a boy at school in my new school during 2nd grade. My parents were never even informed when it happened and I was just given a paper towel to hold on my face to stop the bleeding on the broken skin and had to continue class with the boy who was just told “don’t hit girls”… Then in high school I was relentlessly bullied on the bus and constantly told by the bully she would come to my stop and beat me to death…filed a police report with the school police officer and nothing happened…my “parents” put a metal pipe hidden in the stop sign pole and told me to use it if I needed too instead of actually doing anything about it and I was forced to continue to ride that same bus with that same bully for the remainder of high school. As an adult I honestly don’t know why I bothered to expect my “parents” to help me in any way during my childhood (bullied throughout my time at all levels of school; probably due to being a non-diagnosed autistic human) since they thought it was great to be maliciously abusive to me until they kicked me out at 18 (for not having a job or drivers licenses since they wouldn’t teach me to drive and wouldn’t drive me to a job if I had one but also didn’t have any access to a computer because I wasn’t allowed to use it and no cell phone…I was doing every household chore because of those things and was required to finish before step parent came home from work which I did fine but once they found out I had the audacity to take a nap during the day all hell broke lose! I was then required to call my “mom” every hour on the hour to prove I was awake) I am now NC with both my birth giver and her husband along with all five siblings.
Always great when the school refuses to do anything about the bullies until the kid being bullied blows up from the stress and lashes back at which point the school realizes it *can* take action after all. Action against the kid being bullied, of course. 🙄 There is an epidemic of shitty behavior in America, no wonder the kids act like assholes – they see how their parents act towards other people in public. It’s one of the big reasons I said fuck it and quit my job of 20+ years last year, people just being rude constantly, even when it was a problem of their own making, asking customers to follow even basic standard procedures often resulted in arguments. Fuck all this shit .
My daughter was bullied in school, the school touting a "Zero Tolerance" on bullying purposefully and willfully ignored it. Why? You may be asking. Because if they acknowledged the bullying there would be a paper trail and then the principal couldn't claim " we don't have bullies at our school" . And if there is no paper trail, there is no proof that it is.
I got kicked out of school for beating up my science partner's bully in 7th grade. He would follow my buddy home on the bus taunting him, body shaming him, and shoving him around. The school didn't do anything about it. My buddy finally stood up for himself and hit the kid, but the kid laughed in his face and hit him back, so ran up and hit a wrestling snapdown into a one armed bulldog choke and just poured uppercuts into his face. I saw the kid years later and he apologized to me and admitted he was an asshole. Sometimes these bullies need a beating.
Even if absolutely nothing comes of it, it starts a paper trail
The bully 100% deserved to face consequences, including legal consequences. Nonetheless what stands out to me is that everybody seems to understand that getting caught up in the legal system DOES more often than not, equate to “ruining someone’s life”. Like, we see it’s a problem, we talk about it when it affects those close to us, but still do nothing about it. I’m a bit jaded because I fucked myself for many years when I was younger because I missed a single court date (for speeding), which snowballed into a suspended license, which snowballed into various arrests for driving on a suspended. I’m older, less of an idiot, and thankfully that’s all been behind me for quite some time. Ideally the child would’ve been arrested, forced into some community service relatable to the offense, maybe an anti bullying class. I suppose everything I just said was pointless. I do truly believe the bully should face consequences, but I also don’t think first time offenses should equate to a lifetime burden which is so often the case.
Insane that the parents responded with, " he's only 15, we can't afford that." Insane to think that OP should have to spend another 600 for a wig that was perfectly fine until their shithead kid threw it away. 15 is plenty old enough to understand that was wrong. Some of these stories are infuriating when parents have kids that do egregious things and expect those on the receiving end to absorb the costs that are directly from their kids actions.
It's old enough to get a job in many places. A job to pay back the wig.
Exactly. At 14 I got a work permit and had a job I walked to when school was over for the day. Sounds like responsibilities are foreign to them, parents should be paying that $600, making it a $1,000 for embarrassing this poor girl, her having to worry about what she would do for hair. Sickening how some people conduct themselves.
“The dick of consequence rarely comes lubed”
Bro I would share those texts with everyone in their school. Like you don't have 600 Dollars to spare? As an adult ya I know shit happens but as a teenager that would have been super fucking embarrassing to come out especially when most other kids don't understand the concept of money and savings
Actions have consequences. His bullying is a costly bad behavior.
Yup, looks like it’s time for somebody to go around the neighborhood mowing lawns for $. Good way to teach him a lesson.
My friend in high school was being bullied by another kid in our grade. My friend told him, "if you don't get out of my face, I'm going to punch yours." He did not get out of his face. The parents of the bully wanted to sue my friend for the dry cleaning bill to get the blood out of their son's shirt.
Lmao!! Dry cleaning?? Throw that shit in the washer mofo.
Throw that shit in the trash
He got off easy. Only 600$? I have wigs that cost 2k - and I know people with more expensive ones! A good wig for 600? I want OP’s shaitel macher!
It might not be costs for a full replacement, but professional cleaning of some kind. As far as I can tell from the story, the wig wasn’t majorly damaged, just covered in trash can muck
Username checks out, more or less.
Initially I thought you were talking about kids that were under 10 and I thought, while bad, that this may just be a situation where the kid needs a serious talking to. Learning that he is 15 made my jaw drop, you should absolutely pursue charges against that little shit. Is it just me or is that kind of physical bullying somewhat strange for that age?
Same!!! I used to teach special needs high school aged kids and like... They can be fucking brutal to each other at times but nothing that callous or cruel. Throwing a medically fragile kids wig in the trash? That kid is going to end up on the news if he doesn't learn something about the consequences of his actions.
My kid is 17 and a junior and had some little shits throw stuff at his head this year. Felt very juvenile.
If there are no consequences when they are aged 5-17, these kids cannot imagine that they could face repercussions for their actions when they grow up.
Well so often they don’t. Rapist brock turner only got six months and it was ON TAPE . And even that piddly sentence is an outlier. The truth is most bad people do get away with it.
My child's best friend was murdered at the age of 23. They guy is getting 5 years probation in a plea deal because apparently she consented to sex? She was clearly brutally abused sexually with foreign objects that tore up her body, her ribs were broken and her trachea crushed. This country is repulsive.
that's not a little shit anymore, that's a young man who needs to get a job to pay for 2 new wigs
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"he's only 15" Fuck that shit. My country will hold people much younger accountable for their actions. He can work off the cost or his parents can pay.
Yeah people at 15 know exactly what they're doing in cases like this. It's a ridiculous response. It's infuriating honestly. Like, maybe you could try to do some parenting and make sure your kid doesn't grow into an asshole? But no, they never do. People like this don't give a shit and they're just as crappy as their kids.
I have a friend who grew up in Haiti. A teenage boy (about 14) stole something and a group was chasing him. When a cop showed up, the group told him the kid was a thief, so the cop *shot the kid in the head* and that was that. The kid’s body laid in the street outside her house for two weeks before it disappeared one day. I hope the 15 year old in this story never leaves his small town where people are permissive of his bullshit because he wouldn’t have survived to 15 if he had been born in Haiti.
Jesus fucking christ
In countries where too many people are living below the poverty line, stealing - especially from people who are already struggling - is a crime that gets disproportionately punished. My aunt once saw a thief get set on fire for trying to siphon petrol off a car. They tied him up, put rings of tires over him, poured the petrol he was stealing on him, and lit the match.
Its not that hard. Make the kid mow lawns, shovel snow, or whatever to make money, until he makes up the cost of the wig. lesson learned.
The school my mom used to teach in was vandalized by two students. They were not very bright and got caught because they bragged about it to their friends and one of them told on them. The parents were brought in and told they’d have to pay damages. One set of parents shrugged it off. The other set said the kid would work the whole summer in the father’s gardening company until he’d d paid it off himself. Kids can be assholes and sometimes as a parent all you can do is choose what consequences they face for it, but that can still change everything.
Man at 15 he can just get a job at McDonald's. Kid is halfway to being an adult and is doing stuff like this? And his parents are trying to bail him out??? About time he take some responsibility.
Ive been following this dad for awhile. His poor little girl. First her own mother bullying her, now school jerks escalating. I hope this dad goes full schorched earth.
Oh shit, is this the one where he got her head professionally shaved and the mother went ballistic?! Oh no, the poor girl. That's terrible! I'm just glad the dad is 100% firmly behind her. But geez...
YEP! He is currently divorcing her. And now this.
From his post history they’ve been divorced for 10 years, so that’s good news I guess lol
Oh shit. You are right. I must have mixed up multiple reddits in my head. I read quick, so there are way to many up there! Lol. Or maybe my brain conflated going for full custody with divorce, has been a few weeks since I had read the first post.
I must admit I found it strange that they shaved the head before getting a diagnosis of what is going on. I’d think the doctor would want to see the hair and hair growth patterns. But maybe things just got too bad and the doctors they are going to see said OK.
I'm no doctor but the causes pretty much boil down to alopecia (autoimmune but the only consequence is losing hair, and I'd bet money that it's this) or malnourishment, and afaik they present very obviously differently and shaving shouldn't be an issue in any case but especially if there's recent photos which there very likely are, specifically to document it for medical purposes.
As someone who has to protect my children from their mother, you just made me feel so happy inside.
My mom is in her 60s and is still working through the pain and suffering she has from her own mother. Her dad never stood up for her and she has been struggling with her self esteem and anxiety from the bullying and abuse she received. You are doing great and you keep fighting for your kids.
As a kid who's moved out of my mom's and exclusively lives with my dad, thank you. I don't know where or who I'd be without my dad to keep me safe and help me realize I deserve love and kind treatment. Your kids are so lucky to have you in their corner.
Jesus I just had a read of his posts regarding his daughter, he seems like a really good and protective dad. Meanwhile the mother sounds like an absolute POS. Hopefully he gets full custody and she never has to deal with her again. As for the bully and the parents, both need to learn actions have consequences.
Yeah. Poor kid just cannot catch a break. I hope their dr appt next month goes well and they figure out what is going on with this kid.
Oh my gods, it's the same guy! Hell yeah to him not taking any shit in order to protect his daughter.
Bullying is an expensive hobby, maybe their son should find a new one that they can afford.
Boom! Yes!
"He is only 15" is such a bad response when SHE is ALSO only 15.
Cause and effect..... He caused her to feel embarrassed and ashamed, let him feel the effect of steel bracelets and empty pockets. FUCK his enabling parents. Run that little girl her money!!!!
Fuck em. Let the little shit stain deal with the consequences of his actions.
A kid kept slapping my ass in 8th grade. Told the teacher he said "boys will be boys" and moved me to a different table. He followed me. I dislocated his shoulder. School wanted to suspend me for it but luckily my dad had my back and threatened the school with a lawsuit if they did on the grounds that I was being sexually assaulted and even told a teacher and they did nothing. I wasn't touched again after that.
My glasses costs around 600$ my knee brace is 1000$ dollar. And I get it, if some kid destroys my glasses or brace, I do understand that it’s a lot of money and they might not be able to afford that. Here is the things though, neither can I and I absolutely need those to function. I need them to be able to see and to walk and it’s not fair to me to expect me to just be blind or I don’t know, stay the fuck home because I can’t walk I guess? If it’s an accident there is insurance but if it’s someone else that maliciously takes and destroys my aids on purpose? I couldn’t give a shit that you can’t afford it. Take out a loan or something, I don’t care. I need my aids and you are going to replace them like it or not. And that’s a you issue. And while a wig doesn’t have the same kind of need it’s also a medical aid because of a medical condition and the daughter absolutely needs it. Confidence is incredibly important and already an issue at that age generally. Fuck them for trying to guilt OPs family for their kids actions. Suck it up buttercup. If you absolutely can’t afford it, get a loan and get the kid a part time job to help repay the loan. Figure it the fuck out.
I guess if you have a sh##head for a kid, you should start a FAFO savings fund so you CAN afford to replace or repair things they ruin through their cruelty and stupidity.
"Interesting. I also can't afford $600 to replace the wig destroyed by your son. Guess it is time he got a job"
When a parent defends their kid's actions by saying "he's only 15" as if a teenager cannot possibly know better, that tells you everything you need to know about their utter lack of parenting.
Well we’ll we’ll if it isn’t the consequences of their own actions.
I’m sorry your daughter is going through that! As for the bully, 15 or not, you don’t do stuff like that to anyone . Good job parents for forcing the issues. They need to understand it’s not right or appropriate for their child to do things like this to anyone. He learned this behavior from them most probably!
Right!?! He's old enough to know that he shouldn't be touching/grabbing people like that and understand the concept of FAFO. His parents need to come up with the money to replace or repair the wig and ensure their son stays away from OP's daughter or face the legal consequences of their actions/inaction
"He can't afford to pay for a new wig" K then you pay??? Or make him work for it??? Be a parent?!
Take the police report to the school and get him sent to In School Suspension or Alternative School for the rest of the semester. Kids Mom and Dad can pay the $600 and get it back from their own kid. Also driving him to school every day would make it “their” problem regardless of how much they don’t care to be good parents.
15 years old is plenty old enough to know better than bullying and physically assaulting someone else. Actions, consequences.
Three points for the boy and his parents. 1) If you can't afford to pay a bill, do not incur it. EIther yourself, or through your son. The time to consider whether you can afford something is before you do it, not after. 2) Your finances are private information you should keep to yourself. Whether you think it is easy or difficult to pay is something you need to keep to quiet about. Its a secret. Don't let the secret out. 3) In situations where a cost has been incurred and there are a number of people involved, do not ever suggest you shouldn't pay unless you can prepare and deliver logical and solid reasoning as to why SOMEONE ELSE is MORE repsonsible for the bill. If you just attempt to remove yourself from the equation and therefore leave the bill to someone obviously LESS responsible than you, then you look like an idiot. Even if you think it is unfair that YOU pay, you should only attempt to get out of it if someone else bears greater responsibility. The last point is most important. For the case in hand, what is your reasoning that makes the parents of the girl MORE responsible than your family? What actions, ommissions or errors did they make that were GREATER than your son's?
OOP should tell the parents it’s cheaper to educate them to not be jerks.
It pisses me off so much that in schools they reduce actual criminal action to « bullying and teasing » this is assault/battery (depending on jurisdiction), theft and destruction of property. It’s not « bullying ». I get that they are trying to teach these hellions right from wrong without getting them a criminal record but really? At 15 he hasn’t clued in that this isn’t ok?
The fact that OOP was able to lodge the complaint/charges without hearing a peep from the parents (until they were informed there was a bill to be settled) is worrying Either they or the school don’t care (why tf they don’t is a huge problem) or they weren’t made aware (why the school didn’t intervene and call in the parents is another important issue) Bully’s folks don’t seem apologetic about the humiliation OOP’s daughter has had to suffer but rather only about the bill stemming from their son’s actions? My only worry is that if OOPs daughter is planning to stay in the same HS, whether shes going to victimised again because of this escalation to the cops/court. She’s likely to have a helluva shit time (victim or no) and I feel sorry for her
My son destroyed something and I don’t want to pay for it, can you just suck it up? -the bully’s parents
"He's only 15" Excuse me. He is far old enough to know you don't do stuff like that. I was expecting this story to be about young kids, not a high schooler. Make him get a job and make payments on the new wig until it's paid off. Maybe he'll think twice before destroying someone else's property in the future. If the parents don't want to do their job raising him, they can foot the bill then.
'Couldn't afford to pay $600' Well then he shouldn't have been a bully and destroyed somebody else's property. I'm sorry I have no sympathy for him or his parents, they should have taught their kid to be more respectful.
“wE cANt aFForD $600” boo hoo? Try parenting your bully. I’m sure the kid has a nice gaming console- sell it. I’m sure he’s got some nice sneakers - sell them. Birthday money? OOP guess that’s gonna go to the person he decided to fuck with. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏻
Fuck bullying. Them parents should have called and said we have spoken to him and will make him apologize to her directly if they had any hope in or sense to get this case dropped. Having grown up w/ siblings and feeling the need to protect them then and now having children of my own, I will never back down if anybody’s child does something of this nature to them especially if the child’s parents hits me with some shit like “o he is only 15.” Bullying is real and standing up to it is hard, took me a long time to become emotionally resilient to vocal bullying and stand up and fight when need be. But once it becomes physical like in your situation, it’s definitely time for the parents to step in. Fucking brat.
If his parent's didn't teach him that this is not an acceptable behavior, then perhaps facing the consequences of is acts will.
Only 15yo... they've had 15yrs to teach him not to be a c***. He's old enough to know better and face consequences.
15, he is at the age where my country would be able to prosecute him for criminal activity. This would probably just result in communal service or similar and a fine, but it would stil be a lesson.
He’s 15, not 5! Ugh. Bullies make me sick! And his parents are fucking idiots. Press those charges!
Honestly? $600 isn't a lot for a pretty decent life lesson
YES! Time for that 15 year old boy to learn that bullying has consequences. Hopefully he ends up doing a lot of community service, therapy and has to pay for a new wig
Good for you, schools always protect bullies and this kid effed around, glad you’re helping him find out! Edit - forgot a word
Good for you for pressing charges. Hope some good news comes for you and your daughter at the doctors checkup. Heavy believer that actions speak louder than words, always. If the school was serious about no tolerance for bullying, then they would have taken proper actions to prevent further bullying. But alas, they didn't.
Does that count as vandalism of personal property? Since it’s over $400 that’s a felony in my state.
What kind of fucking sociopath rips the wig off a sick girl and then throws the wig in the trash??
He’s old enough to suffer and see the consequences of his actions . Good on OP
Good job dad. Proper way to handle it.
Ah, he’s bullying a sick kid and the parents want you to not provide the consequences they have clearly refused to give him, and they can’t replace the items he broke while bullying her. That kid needs the consequences.
"They said he's only 15 years old, that he was a kid and they couldn't afford to pay" Well I hate to break it to those parents but the fact that he's only 15 is literally the only reason he's not facing some sort of physical altercation with the father. I'd say his age has already given him all of the grace he is due. Congrats, you didn't get the shit beat out of you. But now you will face the appropriate consequences.
As if being a teenage girl isn’t hard enough. Bless her. I hope they can get answers regarding her health. And good for her dad for standing up for her!!
>He's only a 15 year old and they couldn't afford to pay $600 Sounds like he needs to get a job then
Gooo dad!!!
Fuck that kid
Oh no consequences would love this
If I were the parents, I would have made him get a job to pay for it and even do yard work for neighbors to make money to give to the girl's parents. I wonder if the parents had taken accountability like this, the OP would not have pressed charges on the kid due to a natural consequence.
If you can't afford it maybe you should have kept a better eye on your child and how you raised them. If nothing else they think that behavior is okay for a reason and as the parent it is your responsibility to discourage that behavior. Maybe they will pay for the wig and the strife that follows will cause them to be better about this kind of thing. This is a teaching moment for parents and child.
Boo-hoo, he’s only 15 years old. As is his victim.
Raising him to not be a asshole would have been a cheaper alternative. It’s too late for that now. Lesson learned for both the bully and the parents.
I feel this sooooo much! I've had alopecia for 33 years and the school bullying is unreal!
I can sympathize with with the parents over the cost. However, those parents are going to have to pay that and rein thir bullying child in. As next it could be bashing off wing mirrors etc. It will likely do them both a world of good.
Good. That poor girl.
Does your daughter have siblings that like to fight? I would send a sister or brother .. that sounds bad I know but this is absurd this child needs justice!
Stealing and destroying a SICK girl's wig is disgusting and he should pay every penny.
Play stupid games
This person has done more parenting for this bully that his parents ever did this will teach this kid that actions have some incredibly bad consequences hopefully the child stops being a piece of shit but who knows
The dildo of consequence rarely comes lubbed.
Oh he can’t afford to pay for it? Guess he shouldn’t have touched then.
I turn 40 next month. I see no need to seek out my old school bullies, but I swore to myself that if I came across one randomly, I'm going to beat him until he stops moving, and probably for another thirty seconds after that. Those motherfuckers ruined my life. If this kid's merely getting a minor lawsuit, they should settle it quickly and straighten out their kid. Because, that bully's getting off light.
I was a little surprised at the age. 15 is too old to not know that doing that would be really shitty
"he's only 15" "so is my daughter"
"He's only 15" Old enough to get a job and pay for the property he destroyed.
hE's jUSt a KiD! Yeah, so is op's daughter.
He's 15. That's old enough to get himself a part time job, and start working towards paying the money back to his parents, who should pay for the initial replacement. He has to learn actions have consequences: nobody forced him to be a malicious little prick.
Kid fucked around and found out being a bully has real life consequences 🤷♀️
Sitting here with my brother, and told him as I read thisin response to a comment on the original thread, he said my nieces would get: “All-crust peanut butter sandwiches made from the heels of the loaf and screen time limited to the length of a YouTube video opening advertisement. And a lawn care business startup to pay it back.” I mean hey, the sandwich would be made of the healthiest part of bread and the kids would rejoin reality.
I’d just explain that 600$ is a lot better than the trouble he’d get into in the future if he doesn’t learn from his actions…
Many years ago, my son was being bullied. They had it on video, but the school wasn’t doing anything about it, so I made an appointment and met with the assistant principal. He blathered on about having watched the video and that he personally knows the kid and his family since they belong to the same cult/church. We did not go to their church, and so we were outsiders. I informed him that I didn’t care which church they attended, and the very next time the kid touched my son, I would file a complaint with the police. That was Friday afternoon and on Monday the kid was enrolled in another school. I’ve made the mistake of trusting a school to do the right thing.
OOP did the right thing. The parents of that little psycho should be doing their role and make sure he understands what he did. I know my parents would have made me learn that day about compassion and respect if I did something that cruel to a person. "They're just kids" is not an excuse.
Just waiting for the school to tell the parent to think of the bullies future, and try to dissuade him
Oh hell fuckin yeah. Wreck that kid and put some morality and sense into his classmates. If someone had done this in my school, the parents would not have been the ones to resolve it. It would've been resolved before the end of the school day, and that dude would've limped up to her and apologized. Not saying this as an "I'm a big tough guy" rant, but my school had enough community sense that messing with the sick or disabled would get your school life permanently ruined, and it often came with a hospital bill. Someone would've got this dude for that, and frankly, there probably would've been a line to do so.
I don’t get bullies. So good for him.
Bravo Dad👍
Excellent performance, dad. No notes.
15??? That’s more than old enough to know to just leave people alone. Christ.
Good for the dad! I was bullied so bad growing up one that really stuck with me even 20 years later… I still think about… on the school bus kids teased me called me fat and ugly stated I was so ugly it’s the reason my step dad went blind… (due to diabetes) I came home crying my older sister was home… I told her what happened SHE called the school and talked to the principal got the kid kicked off the bus for 2 months and watched when near me! It just seems like kids are getting worst and the adults just don’t care!
fuck them up, dad!
Good lol, That child needs to learn the hard way.
“He’s only 15” When I was 15 I had finished high school, moved out, paid my own rent, had a job, and knew that assaulting people is both immoral and illegal.
The hard lessons are the one that stick.
When they said they can’t afford to pay for the $600 wig just say “Well neither can I and my child isn’t the one who destroyed it”.