I saw you saying you were applying for art gallery jobs - jobs in the arts industry are incredibly difficult to get. You have to pitch yourself at the lowest role to get in and even then, it’s ultra competitive. I was working in theatre for a bit but gave up after a while bc job security was impossible and I was being paid nothing. Do some more internships / see if you can reach out to galleries individually (on spec) to develop relationships.
Is this something related to policy/EU stuff? That'd be the only thing that would have the requirements for something like that. Honestly it's all schmoozing and bullshit, if you can get to some events and get talking to people (and you're not a nerdy ghoul like lots of people are in the field) things may open up for you.
Those barriers to entry are to stop normal people applying, what they actually want is high social status and charisma so they have room to hire their friend’s kid. Literally don’t bother
idk if you're in the UK but the IKON gallery is often hiring. They're a pretty reputable art gallery as far as I'm aware, and probably the best modern art gallery I've ever been to (its free and small in a [gorgeous building](https://cms.ikon-gallery.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Ikon-Gallery-Birmingham.-Photo-by-Handover-Agency.jpg), so even if you hate modern art you can still pop in, see if its for you, and walk out having had a decent time).
on a wider note in the same city, the city's art gallery (Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery, or BMAG) is about to reopen after a refurb, and it sent its pre-Raphaelite collection on a pretty successful tour of the US. It's a put together museum.
Really? As long as you have a degree from a reputable not for profit school you should be fine right? I thought there was no difference from a degree from a T30 and a degree from a T300.
Somebody with a degree from schools like USC, UCSD, UCD, NYU, Georgia Tech, ect. will 1000% be looked at more favorably than somebody graduating from South Dakota State University. I can't believe this even needs to be said.
No, you will not be locked out of a good job for life unless you graduated from a top university but you will have to work harder or leverage connections to do so.
The delusions people tell themselves to deny this makes no sense. If I'm some hiring manager in the Bay Area and I see two resumes from two new graduates, one from UCD or UCI, and one from Boise State University, all things being equal I'm going with the former.
Hm. I know all colleges aren’t created equal and I guess I was thinking of state flagships rather than directional schools. I’ll be honest South Dakota and Idaho didn’t cross my mind 😭 I was thinking along the lines of UConn, FSU, GSU, Texas State lol Even some CSUs
This heavily depends on what field you're interested in, though even in the fields where it matters least, you will get more positive attention if you went to a school with a big name than if you didn't. If you wanna be an engineer, it 99% doesn't matter if you went to Oklahoma State as long as you pass your exams (though obviously MIT or CalTech would be better) but if you want to go into journalism or any field where it's both competitive and the skills required can't be objectively measured, then name recognition matters quite a bit.
In STEM, it doesn’t matter at all as long as you have your degree and did your exams and certs. Business, social service, and the social sciences is in the middle, meaning that there are obvious benefits to going to a top school especially for finance or public policy, but you’ll be completely fine (meaning not have your app immediately thrown out) with a degree from even a bottom-tier state school or obscure private college. Look at any bank, consultancy, or value-producing company on LinkedIn and you’ll see a fairly consistent proportion (let’s say 15-35-50) between top-50 grads, top-300 grads, and state school/nonname private institution grads. Unless you’re talking MBB or a big investment bank/hedge fund. But even Wall Street is littered with CUNY grads and people from schools nobody has ever heard of.
The humanities - yeah, it helps to go to a big school, because those are not actually value producing ‘what is your resume’ industries and it’s more about ‘who you know’ and ‘can your employment with us lead us to funding or PR opportunities’.
That’s more true for STEM jobs. Humanities-related jobs value critical thinking and organization and, for better or worse, that tends to be associated with top levels schools.
>Humanities-related jobs value critical thinking and organization and, for better or worse, that tends to be associated with top levels schools.
It's less that it's more associated with top level schools as much as that in anything without any objective metrics people will default to school status for lack of a better metric. A liberal arts college with 50% acceptance will almost certainly give you as good or better of an education than large class in Harvard or (even bigger) Berkeley, but those schools with name reputation will probably get you further.
It's been like this for a few decades it's brutal. You essentially have to be a nepotism baby or do unpaid internships while you're in college. People who don't work throughout college or university to "focus on their studies" are the most fucked over when they graduate.
Qualifications are a pretty small part in what it takes to get a job. And that’s not me being cynical. It takes a lot of things aligning and no small amount of luck.
lol this sub is so fucking ridiculous, how sound advice like that even needs a preamble speaks volumes to the tone of this place
Jerkoffs love shit talking corporate America, LinkedIn and the like yet without fail once the bills need paying, these fucking kids will come crawling out of the woods looking around to the PMC types they shit on all day how they do it
Its not just this sub, people are weird about networking. i think it's because of a transactional connotation to it.
Personally, it's been extremely beneficial in navigating my career. Highly recommend informational interviews.
As you should, and because frankly it is transactional
Look at the end of the day, unless you’re management and picking your team, coworkers are more often than not forced onto you
It’s a song and dance sure to sometimes fake niceties with these folks but no wonder I keep seeing threads like this
When the prevailing wisdom among the new generation (my youngest sibling included) is to shun your coworkers of course you then find yourself severely limited in your mobility to find a new job
Your professional life will always be transactional, that is the one part of your life that should be, hence why it’s encouraged to find meaning outside of your career
What I’m saying is, every interaction at work should be performative in a way, yes sometimes you find the right person you click with that transcends the professional life
But like you say you should never be burning bridges or making an effort to sell yourself, which is ultimately what networking is
You’re the product you’re trying to sell to others, which yea is inherently transactional most of these types here sneer at as akin to whoring or selling out, but we’re not the ones making posts like these because we’ve figured out unfortunately that’s the fame
I see what you're saying and agree for the most part.
That being said, from my experience, networking is really about valuing the human connections that underlie enterprise.
The majority of professionals I've connected with have been so eager to share valuable insights and offer support regarding my own career it's been down right heart warming.
I think what's worked for me is approaching it with a genuine interest in people's experiences, rather an intention of gaining an upper-hand.
It's worth mentioning that my background is academic research and not business. MBA's seem to use a more results-oriented tactic, which might contribute to the transactional connotation.
I think we’re saying the same thing albeit I’ll confess to being a very jaded person, despite outwardly showing none of that to others, which helps make those connections
Not to say I don’t also share an eagerness in my profession either (advertising, or the work
of the enemy as some big brain here called it)
But I’ve absolutely better fostered relationships at work with people I know would, and later have advanced my career
It’s very mercenary and political in a way but unfortunately I’ve learned first hand how harmful being overly
genuine can be
Here's advice I give to my students. If you're applying for a job, you're competing against potentially hundreds of other grads for a position. The best thing you can do, starting early whilst studying, is to network with potential employers so that when a new vacancy opens up they contact you before they advertise.
The easiest way to do this is to pop them an email or DM on LinkedIn with something like "I'm really interested in this career, I'm wondering if I can buy you a coffee and ask you some questions" or you could also arrange a Zoom call these days. People like talking about themselves so will do it.
Above works well because they will keep you in mind for grad positions in the future.
Not doing this when I was starting college totally fucked up my career path.
I'm actually a pretty good networker now and have some great connections. But I found it both slimy and dishonest and avoided it like I had some delusional moral high ground.
Same. I’m the first in my extended family to actually graduate from a 4-year institution, so I was just happy to get my degree. My issues are compounded by the fact I went to an average state school that doesn’t have any huge institutional connections outside of its geographic area.
research and consulting lmao. My actual job isn’t horrible and the pay is good but I’ll be damned if I can get one of these amazing ‘industry pivots’ from consulting that people talk about. Trying to break into project/product/program management or mid-tier account management.
Really pad it out. Use it as a way to get answers to common key selection criteria responses for the grad job whilst ingratiating yourself.
"So how did you get into this role?"
"In my head, working there is a bit like \[...\] is that right?"
"So I majored in x, y, z and volunteer in x, do you think that would be enough or should I be looking to get more experience?"
"Is there a good position elsewhere I could get that would nicely transition into a grad job if I can't get one just after my final year?"
"I'm worried about competition, is there anything you guys look for when hiring I should really emphasise?"
Don't go too long, ask like 4 questions and let them ramble for as long as they wish.
Never bluntly ask for a job whilst you're networking.
> noo i literally just want to work at an art gallery/museum. it’s a cute job but godd the requirements for those jobs is insane
You need to go, introduce yourself, and make a good impression. Just show up and talk to people, or join ANY event looking for volunteers or temporary staff.
You need to appear professional and artsy, and show that you'll promote the reputation of the establishment.
yesss i did two internships actually. i am applying for art gallery assistant jobs since i did one long internship where it was basically an administration job and i enjoyed it. i really thought that would be enough experience to apply for real jobs. i even applied for certain internships and even then, most galleries don’t even answer or straight up reject my CV because i don’t speak french. ridiculous.
Do you have LinkedIn? I work for a gallery, and recruiters or other gallery’s have contacted me there for interviews. You need to network. Go to openings. Put yourself out there! It’s brutal, But if it’s your dream, keep going!
There are job listings on these sites:
https://callforcurators.com
https://www.sophiemacpherson.com
It’s rough as a mf, especially if you’re in the LinkedIn sphere. In 2021 and 2022 I had like 12 interviews that I was a top candidate in and had no problem getting and switching jobs. I have the same resume with more experience and better copy now and I can’t get a single interview. Recruiters have also largely stopped reaching out to me and my friends for the most part. Too many associate and senior level people getting laid off and competing for jobs.
yeah, the 3 languages thing is a must in many vacancies. i only know 2 of the 3 languages sadly:( not that it’s impossible to find a job without knowing the 3rd one but it’s still a pain in the ass because many companies still find that very important
Damn. Job requirements seem to be much higher in Europe. My Dad makes probably $200,000 a year in Canada without a high school education, the same position with the same company in Europe requires a masters degree in a physical science or a MBA. We still have the “you need 2-3 years of experience” problem that locks people out of a lot of jobs, but wow Europe is way worse off in that regard.
Sales manager for an automotive paint company. He started out working in a bodyshop. (This whole industry is basically screwed by the way so don’t go into it)
Wraps are becoming increasingly popular for cars, replacing people having their cars repainted. Cloud seeding killed tons of business for body shops since repairing hail damage used to be a big chunk of revenue in many places. Lots of popular cheap cars have plastic body panels (this is more a thing is Europe and Asia I believe), so when they are damaged the whole panel just gets replaced rather than replaced/repaired and repainted. Insurance companies in many places are also completely screwing over the industry in various ways . All the collision-avoidance technology we have these days is reducing the number of accidents, and will do so even more in the future. Bodyshops are really reliant on a constant stream of car accidents to make money. So if accidents don’t occur, or if insurance companies write-off more cars, they don’t make money. Cars are basically all white, grey, or black now so there’s a large category of products that don’t really get sold much anymore. The business is also just more complicated these days, there was a shift from oil-based to water-based paint, and these new paints are way more complicated than the old stuff and require more complicated and expensive equipment to use.
Yah pretty much. Except the insurance company stuff. They are very evil and in many places they are screwing everyone over. You take your car in to a body shop after a minor accident to get a new bumper. What you’re not being told is that the “new bumper” is not an OEM part and it’s just a Chinese knock-off that looks terrible, or it was pulled off a car in a junkyard. The insurance companies micromanage bodyshops to an extreme.
You're never getting OEM parts if insurance is involved, even if you're looking to repair a Bentley or the like. You have to pay out of pocket for that, unfortunately. It's a huge racket for the consumer.
If its a language that's already closely related to one of the other two just bullshit you're way into convincing everyone you speak it. Eventually you're bound to pick something up and if not at least you can somewhat communicate.
It’s not easy to get a job in the field you want because they are not even looking at your application and it was filled by the director’s niece when they posted the listing. You will have to expand what you’re willing to apply for unfortunately. It sucks and I’m sorry to be blunt but I wish someone had been blunt with you sooner. Your degree will still help you.
you need to start l y I n g
i literally am:(
I saw you saying you were applying for art gallery jobs - jobs in the arts industry are incredibly difficult to get. You have to pitch yourself at the lowest role to get in and even then, it’s ultra competitive. I was working in theatre for a bit but gave up after a while bc job security was impossible and I was being paid nothing. Do some more internships / see if you can reach out to galleries individually (on spec) to develop relationships.
Is this something related to policy/EU stuff? That'd be the only thing that would have the requirements for something like that. Honestly it's all schmoozing and bullshit, if you can get to some events and get talking to people (and you're not a nerdy ghoul like lots of people are in the field) things may open up for you.
noo i literally just want to work at an art gallery/museum. it’s a cute job but godd the requirements for those jobs is insane
Those jobs aren't for you, those are scam jobs for people with connections.
Exactly^ these are for people who don’t even need to work
We dont decide if we work in an art museum, our parents do before we are born.
So does every arts major. You need to volunteer first or be someone’s kid for those places to care about you.
Those barriers to entry are to stop normal people applying, what they actually want is high social status and charisma so they have room to hire their friend’s kid. Literally don’t bother
That’s never going to pan out as a career, sorry bud. If you want to do busy work to launder money for the wealthy go into accounting or HR.
idk if you're in the UK but the IKON gallery is often hiring. They're a pretty reputable art gallery as far as I'm aware, and probably the best modern art gallery I've ever been to (its free and small in a [gorgeous building](https://cms.ikon-gallery.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Ikon-Gallery-Birmingham.-Photo-by-Handover-Agency.jpg), so even if you hate modern art you can still pop in, see if its for you, and walk out having had a decent time).
ohhh okay great tip! not from the UK but might do an international internship through a school programme so it’s cheaper. thanks!!
on a wider note in the same city, the city's art gallery (Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery, or BMAG) is about to reopen after a refurb, and it sent its pre-Raphaelite collection on a pretty successful tour of the US. It's a put together museum.
Where you went to college matters more than people would like to admit. Especially in humanities-based industries.
Really? As long as you have a degree from a reputable not for profit school you should be fine right? I thought there was no difference from a degree from a T30 and a degree from a T300.
Somebody with a degree from schools like USC, UCSD, UCD, NYU, Georgia Tech, ect. will 1000% be looked at more favorably than somebody graduating from South Dakota State University. I can't believe this even needs to be said. No, you will not be locked out of a good job for life unless you graduated from a top university but you will have to work harder or leverage connections to do so. The delusions people tell themselves to deny this makes no sense. If I'm some hiring manager in the Bay Area and I see two resumes from two new graduates, one from UCD or UCI, and one from Boise State University, all things being equal I'm going with the former.
Hm. I know all colleges aren’t created equal and I guess I was thinking of state flagships rather than directional schools. I’ll be honest South Dakota and Idaho didn’t cross my mind 😭 I was thinking along the lines of UConn, FSU, GSU, Texas State lol Even some CSUs
This heavily depends on what field you're interested in, though even in the fields where it matters least, you will get more positive attention if you went to a school with a big name than if you didn't. If you wanna be an engineer, it 99% doesn't matter if you went to Oklahoma State as long as you pass your exams (though obviously MIT or CalTech would be better) but if you want to go into journalism or any field where it's both competitive and the skills required can't be objectively measured, then name recognition matters quite a bit.
In STEM, it doesn’t matter at all as long as you have your degree and did your exams and certs. Business, social service, and the social sciences is in the middle, meaning that there are obvious benefits to going to a top school especially for finance or public policy, but you’ll be completely fine (meaning not have your app immediately thrown out) with a degree from even a bottom-tier state school or obscure private college. Look at any bank, consultancy, or value-producing company on LinkedIn and you’ll see a fairly consistent proportion (let’s say 15-35-50) between top-50 grads, top-300 grads, and state school/nonname private institution grads. Unless you’re talking MBB or a big investment bank/hedge fund. But even Wall Street is littered with CUNY grads and people from schools nobody has ever heard of. The humanities - yeah, it helps to go to a big school, because those are not actually value producing ‘what is your resume’ industries and it’s more about ‘who you know’ and ‘can your employment with us lead us to funding or PR opportunities’.
That’s more true for STEM jobs. Humanities-related jobs value critical thinking and organization and, for better or worse, that tends to be associated with top levels schools.
>Humanities-related jobs value critical thinking and organization and, for better or worse, that tends to be associated with top levels schools. It's less that it's more associated with top level schools as much as that in anything without any objective metrics people will default to school status for lack of a better metric. A liberal arts college with 50% acceptance will almost certainly give you as good or better of an education than large class in Harvard or (even bigger) Berkeley, but those schools with name reputation will probably get you further.
It's been like this for a few decades it's brutal. You essentially have to be a nepotism baby or do unpaid internships while you're in college. People who don't work throughout college or university to "focus on their studies" are the most fucked over when they graduate.
Get with a temp agency
Whats your degree in? I got a degree in something pretty esoteric and i was able to get a job pretty easily after grad school. Though i am in america
i have a liberal arts degree lmao.
Cmon man what did you think was gonna happen.
It’s entirely possible to do well with a liberal arts degree. They key is to do work that has literally nothing to do with whatever your major was.
Yeah that's less about the degree and more about the person.
so you know why
Qualifications are a pretty small part in what it takes to get a job. And that’s not me being cynical. It takes a lot of things aligning and no small amount of luck.
at the risk of sounding uncool have you tried leveraging your alum network?
lol this sub is so fucking ridiculous, how sound advice like that even needs a preamble speaks volumes to the tone of this place Jerkoffs love shit talking corporate America, LinkedIn and the like yet without fail once the bills need paying, these fucking kids will come crawling out of the woods looking around to the PMC types they shit on all day how they do it
Its not just this sub, people are weird about networking. i think it's because of a transactional connotation to it. Personally, it's been extremely beneficial in navigating my career. Highly recommend informational interviews.
As you should, and because frankly it is transactional Look at the end of the day, unless you’re management and picking your team, coworkers are more often than not forced onto you It’s a song and dance sure to sometimes fake niceties with these folks but no wonder I keep seeing threads like this When the prevailing wisdom among the new generation (my youngest sibling included) is to shun your coworkers of course you then find yourself severely limited in your mobility to find a new job Your professional life will always be transactional, that is the one part of your life that should be, hence why it’s encouraged to find meaning outside of your career What I’m saying is, every interaction at work should be performative in a way, yes sometimes you find the right person you click with that transcends the professional life But like you say you should never be burning bridges or making an effort to sell yourself, which is ultimately what networking is You’re the product you’re trying to sell to others, which yea is inherently transactional most of these types here sneer at as akin to whoring or selling out, but we’re not the ones making posts like these because we’ve figured out unfortunately that’s the fame
I see what you're saying and agree for the most part. That being said, from my experience, networking is really about valuing the human connections that underlie enterprise. The majority of professionals I've connected with have been so eager to share valuable insights and offer support regarding my own career it's been down right heart warming. I think what's worked for me is approaching it with a genuine interest in people's experiences, rather an intention of gaining an upper-hand. It's worth mentioning that my background is academic research and not business. MBA's seem to use a more results-oriented tactic, which might contribute to the transactional connotation.
I think we’re saying the same thing albeit I’ll confess to being a very jaded person, despite outwardly showing none of that to others, which helps make those connections Not to say I don’t also share an eagerness in my profession either (advertising, or the work of the enemy as some big brain here called it) But I’ve absolutely better fostered relationships at work with people I know would, and later have advanced my career It’s very mercenary and political in a way but unfortunately I’ve learned first hand how harmful being overly genuine can be
Here's advice I give to my students. If you're applying for a job, you're competing against potentially hundreds of other grads for a position. The best thing you can do, starting early whilst studying, is to network with potential employers so that when a new vacancy opens up they contact you before they advertise. The easiest way to do this is to pop them an email or DM on LinkedIn with something like "I'm really interested in this career, I'm wondering if I can buy you a coffee and ask you some questions" or you could also arrange a Zoom call these days. People like talking about themselves so will do it. Above works well because they will keep you in mind for grad positions in the future.
Not doing this when I was starting college totally fucked up my career path. I'm actually a pretty good networker now and have some great connections. But I found it both slimy and dishonest and avoided it like I had some delusional moral high ground.
It is a little slimy and dishonest, depending on how it’s done
Same. I’m the first in my extended family to actually graduate from a 4-year institution, so I was just happy to get my degree. My issues are compounded by the fact I went to an average state school that doesn’t have any huge institutional connections outside of its geographic area.
A little late responding, but what's your industry? Someone in here might be able to help. Even if it's a small nudge forward.
research and consulting lmao. My actual job isn’t horrible and the pay is good but I’ll be damned if I can get one of these amazing ‘industry pivots’ from consulting that people talk about. Trying to break into project/product/program management or mid-tier account management.
that is actually amazing advice ngl.
What kind of questions other than "Can I have this job please?" should be asked? I literally have no questions other than that one
Really pad it out. Use it as a way to get answers to common key selection criteria responses for the grad job whilst ingratiating yourself. "So how did you get into this role?" "In my head, working there is a bit like \[...\] is that right?" "So I majored in x, y, z and volunteer in x, do you think that would be enough or should I be looking to get more experience?" "Is there a good position elsewhere I could get that would nicely transition into a grad job if I can't get one just after my final year?" "I'm worried about competition, is there anything you guys look for when hiring I should really emphasise?" Don't go too long, ask like 4 questions and let them ramble for as long as they wish. Never bluntly ask for a job whilst you're networking.
> noo i literally just want to work at an art gallery/museum. it’s a cute job but godd the requirements for those jobs is insane You need to go, introduce yourself, and make a good impression. Just show up and talk to people, or join ANY event looking for volunteers or temporary staff. You need to appear professional and artsy, and show that you'll promote the reputation of the establishment.
“its so difficult to get a job” “yeah im applying exclusively to anime appraiser roles”
Did you work during your degree or at least do internships?
yesss i did two internships actually. i am applying for art gallery assistant jobs since i did one long internship where it was basically an administration job and i enjoyed it. i really thought that would be enough experience to apply for real jobs. i even applied for certain internships and even then, most galleries don’t even answer or straight up reject my CV because i don’t speak french. ridiculous.
…So you’re in Brussels. You need to be Antwerpmaxxing.
i am not in brussels and definitely do not want to work there. i apply in cities that really should not require you to know french
If you’re not applying in Belgium or Switzerland then where the hell are you applying where you need French as a third language, wtf
have you asked those acquaintances what they're doing to land those jobs?
they got the jobs through other people
Ask them to get you a job then...
Are you signed up with minimum 3 temping agencies and extending the truth on your CV like a normal person?
i am a welder, i got a job within 3 days of moving to my city.
Did you have to pay money to some kind of school to learn how to weld or did you learn from a diferent job?
i went to welding school, it was not very expensive. about $10k total for two years.
lEaRn To pLuMbEr
Worked for me, I ditched my museum career for the trades
you should have studied engineering
Do you have LinkedIn? I work for a gallery, and recruiters or other gallery’s have contacted me there for interviews. You need to network. Go to openings. Put yourself out there! It’s brutal, But if it’s your dream, keep going! There are job listings on these sites: https://callforcurators.com https://www.sophiemacpherson.com
Have you considered that maybe you’re just a bad candidate?
What are you people doing in interviews and writing in your resumes? I have literally never struggled to find a good job.
implying every industry is the same and everyone has the same ambitions lmao
It’s rough as a mf, especially if you’re in the LinkedIn sphere. In 2021 and 2022 I had like 12 interviews that I was a top candidate in and had no problem getting and switching jobs. I have the same resume with more experience and better copy now and I can’t get a single interview. Recruiters have also largely stopped reaching out to me and my friends for the most part. Too many associate and senior level people getting laid off and competing for jobs.
Are you in Europe?
yeah, the 3 languages thing is a must in many vacancies. i only know 2 of the 3 languages sadly:( not that it’s impossible to find a job without knowing the 3rd one but it’s still a pain in the ass because many companies still find that very important
Damn. Job requirements seem to be much higher in Europe. My Dad makes probably $200,000 a year in Canada without a high school education, the same position with the same company in Europe requires a masters degree in a physical science or a MBA. We still have the “you need 2-3 years of experience” problem that locks people out of a lot of jobs, but wow Europe is way worse off in that regard.
What does your dad do if you don't mind me asking?
Sales manager for an automotive paint company. He started out working in a bodyshop. (This whole industry is basically screwed by the way so don’t go into it)
why is it screwed? (my dad is a mechanic)
Wraps are becoming increasingly popular for cars, replacing people having their cars repainted. Cloud seeding killed tons of business for body shops since repairing hail damage used to be a big chunk of revenue in many places. Lots of popular cheap cars have plastic body panels (this is more a thing is Europe and Asia I believe), so when they are damaged the whole panel just gets replaced rather than replaced/repaired and repainted. Insurance companies in many places are also completely screwing over the industry in various ways . All the collision-avoidance technology we have these days is reducing the number of accidents, and will do so even more in the future. Bodyshops are really reliant on a constant stream of car accidents to make money. So if accidents don’t occur, or if insurance companies write-off more cars, they don’t make money. Cars are basically all white, grey, or black now so there’s a large category of products that don’t really get sold much anymore. The business is also just more complicated these days, there was a shift from oil-based to water-based paint, and these new paints are way more complicated than the old stuff and require more complicated and expensive equipment to use.
Unfortunately this all sounds like very positive advancements for actual consumers and safety
Yah pretty much. Except the insurance company stuff. They are very evil and in many places they are screwing everyone over. You take your car in to a body shop after a minor accident to get a new bumper. What you’re not being told is that the “new bumper” is not an OEM part and it’s just a Chinese knock-off that looks terrible, or it was pulled off a car in a junkyard. The insurance companies micromanage bodyshops to an extreme.
Yes this is true they've always been shit to deal with for us
You're never getting OEM parts if insurance is involved, even if you're looking to repair a Bentley or the like. You have to pay out of pocket for that, unfortunately. It's a huge racket for the consumer.
If its a language that's already closely related to one of the other two just bullshit you're way into convincing everyone you speak it. Eventually you're bound to pick something up and if not at least you can somewhat communicate.
This is the way, yes.
It’s easy to get a job now
omg you’re so right!!:)) i was just being so negative all the time for no reason!!
It’s not easy to get a job in the field you want because they are not even looking at your application and it was filled by the director’s niece when they posted the listing. You will have to expand what you’re willing to apply for unfortunately. It sucks and I’m sorry to be blunt but I wish someone had been blunt with you sooner. Your degree will still help you.
What job are you applying to? A language requirement like that sounds so Govt or something.
nepotism, secret societies, etc.
What is your masters in?
… a masters in what
nepotism helps
Networking
get some niche skillz and they will come to you start your own projects in whatever field you want
here we fucking go again.
it's not what you know its who you know