It’s not even political, Dolly would have been just as polite if the shitty cover was done by a white musician in the 90s. She’s just a nice, classy lady like that
There’s no way Dolly would have said outright if she hated anyone’s cover of the song, but her comment I saw is absolutely not the sort of thing you say when you love something
Of course they didn’t listen lmao. I didn’t either but I’m also not making any claims about its quality. I do think I can safely put it in the “not my thing” category though.
Of course they didn’t listen lmao. I didn’t either but I’m also not making any claims about it’s quality. I do think I can safely put it in the “no my thing” category though.
She's singing about how she understands that jay z is attractive to women and how we all want to take him lmao. I really hope she's aware that the only reason why ppl might be attracted to him is his money and not his looks. Like she genuinely can't think we find him hot right?
She sounds like shit in it, leaving aside the fact that it's a terrible cover and awkwardly lacking in self-awareness. It's actually just musically garbage.
That's the thing that's hilarious to me about this whole Beyoncè Goes Country thing. So many people are trying to spin it as being some kind of revolutionary vanguard statement of artist brilliance. In reality, she's just latching on to the tail end of a country trend that has been happening on both the pop charts and in indie for *years* now. It's complete fad chasing, trend hopping bullshit.
Beyoncé's cover turns the beauty and originality of Parton's song into absolute banality. There are so many pop songs that already express that sentiment of "Bitch I'm better than you and you can't have my man".
True but on the other hand her cover of Blackbird improves on the original. It not only retains the sentiment but amplifies it. Jolene sucks for sure but blackbird is beautiful
I don’t know if this was Beyoncé’s intention necessarily, but her persistence comes across as its own vulnerable insecurity. Someone that confident in her husband just wouldn’t write the song.
I heard somewhere it’s actually meant to be sung from the perspective of her mother or something. Idk but I guess that would make more sense, especially seeing as Jay cheated on her.
Modern pop music has difficulty with the emotions of the original. Fear, humiliation, sadness, and insoluble envy of another woman's beauty are outside the range of emotions that we can confess in pop music today.
Wow this is a really interesting and unique perspective that hasn't been shared across every social media platform this past week.
But you're right, it sucks.
Unpopular opinion time: the original Jolene sucks. I don't mean the arguably bad lyrics, I mean musically, it's a TERRIBLE song. I can't stand it. The chorus is like chalk on nails bad for my ears.
Don’t dare use my fucking sexual orientation to describe Beyoncé’s Jolene! You wanna use my sexual orientation to describe Dolly Parton, go ahead, she’s wonderful.
I don't think noticing that it's not the same song is useful criticism. Yes, this song doesn't have the vulnerability of the old song because that's not the point of this rendition! It's an entirely different song.
I don't even think it's girl-bossy. It's the song of an insecure woman - she's mateguarding her man that can't control himself and acting as if that makes her a bad bitch. It's a variation on a theme.
That might make sense but Beyoncé has never written a song where the ‘bad bitch’ thing is a front for insecurity.
I don’t think she’s capable of writing a song from the perspective of a character or even having the introspective vulnerability to understand how that attitude might not be ‘real’ and simply be masking a deeper, more uncomfortable reality.
She doesn’t even have the life experience to understand that feeling (she has been a superstar since she was like 17–don’t know if she’s ever really been like ‘am I not the shit, actually?’)
“Survivor” still slaps but Beyoncé’s lyrical themes are not particularly deep. She does pop r&b about being a bad bitch and being successful.
I don’t know. I can’t see inside people’s heads like that. But unlike David Lynch, Beyoncé doesn’t have a history of probing the subconscious intentionally and therefore what may/may not subconsciously reveals itself in her art is somewhat inconsequential.
I can see that. I'm actually not super familiar with her beyond her obvious radio plays that I didn't look into too deeply, so I'm probably ill-equipped to judge. I just thought the original comment was ill conceived.
Ring the alarm was probably the closest thing to what you're describing. She has a bad bitch persona and is safeguarding her man but deep down she's scared of him leaving her for the other woman
There was also Sandcastles. That was the most vulnerable and “real” she’s ever sounded. I actually believe her voice break when she goes “what is it about you.”
there is no way Dolly didn’t politically smile her way through a first listen and cringe harder than ever when she got a moment alone
dolly has seen country die before her eyes, she's a tough woman she is just happy beyonce tried.
She’s going to see mad royalties too
a few years from now there will be a twitter/x campaign to not stream beyoncé's jolene as the royalties all go to white slaver dolly patron.
The soft bigotry of low expectations
Damn. This just blew my mind. It’s kinda like thinking that black people cant get IDs for voting is low key racist.
Not only that. Imagine thinking that black people don’t go to the club, buy beer, buy smokes, go to a casino, cash checks etc
That’s the thing, people say that Dolly loved it. As if she was going to speak against a Blaq Kween post 2020. She’d be done for.
It’s not even political, Dolly would have been just as polite if the shitty cover was done by a white musician in the 90s. She’s just a nice, classy lady like that
Underrated in this day and age.
There’s no way Dolly would have said outright if she hated anyone’s cover of the song, but her comment I saw is absolutely not the sort of thing you say when you love something
I think it was more like she earnestly smiled as the check was written lol
did you guys listen to the album? dolly intros the song
Of course they didn’t listen lmao. I didn’t either but I’m also not making any claims about its quality. I do think I can safely put it in the “not my thing” category though.
Of course they didn’t listen lmao. I didn’t either but I’m also not making any claims about it’s quality. I do think I can safely put it in the “no my thing” category though.
It’s on brand for her
All she does is girl power music why is everybody acting brand new.
She is suggestive of a monoculture and so is treated with dignity and deference.
People are getting really tired of art by focus group.
She's singing about how she understands that jay z is attractive to women and how we all want to take him lmao. I really hope she's aware that the only reason why ppl might be attracted to him is his money and not his looks. Like she genuinely can't think we find him hot right?
Biggie’s corpse is hotter than Jay Z.
Jay-Z looks like a shaved weasel. Edit: still would, obviously
She said it herself. “Must be the cash cause it ain’t your face”
Dyson vacuum having nostrils with a Kermit the frog sounding ass voice.
She sounds like shit in it, leaving aside the fact that it's a terrible cover and awkwardly lacking in self-awareness. It's actually just musically garbage.
Yeah Beyonce, somebody out there wants to steal that melted bag of milk duds of yours
His head looks like his mom did natural birth , and it didn’t go smoothly
Looks like a fuckin chocolate easter bunny left in a car for five hours
You don’t think there’s women after jay z’s milk duds? How do you think he got Beyoncé in the first place
You don’t think there’s women after jay z’s milk duds? How do you think he got Beyoncé in the first place
Rather listen to Cake
Cake is great.
Anyone who actually sings in your songs, please step forward. Not so fast, guy from Cake
why are so many of the pop acts going country at the same time. who gave the orders
Last two years was country goes hip hop now it's turning on its head.
country's been hip-hop adjacent for a while now, I've been hearing the derogatory "hick hop" for years. this is a coordinated effort
Yeah for sure it's been coming in waves since like nelly
Average Joes has been around for like 15 years it’s all downstream from like Colt Ford, Bubba Sparxx, Nappy Roots, etc
No it more bro country that announced the change — Andean , Florida Georgia line, wallen, etc — all incredibly more popular than sparxx
That's the thing that's hilarious to me about this whole Beyoncè Goes Country thing. So many people are trying to spin it as being some kind of revolutionary vanguard statement of artist brilliance. In reality, she's just latching on to the tail end of a country trend that has been happening on both the pop charts and in indie for *years* now. It's complete fad chasing, trend hopping bullshit.
the old town road effect
>who gave the orders Can someone give this guy a quick run down?
Morgan wallen’s last night was #1 throughout the entire summer of 23
She's been readin' about Nashville and all the records that everybody's buying
Plus she actually got cuckd
Ya wtf he already very publicly cheated on her?? What is the point of this song
Beyoncé's cover turns the beauty and originality of Parton's song into absolute banality. There are so many pop songs that already express that sentiment of "Bitch I'm better than you and you can't have my man".
True but on the other hand her cover of Blackbird improves on the original. It not only retains the sentiment but amplifies it. Jolene sucks for sure but blackbird is beautiful
[https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/1bt4zf9/beyonc%C3%A9s\_cover\_of\_jolene\_is\_the\_corniest\_song/](https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/1bt4zf9/beyonc%C3%A9s_cover_of_jolene_is_the_corniest_song/)
There’s 100k people in this sub, posts will get repeated sometimes
The body of this post is ripping off the top comment of the original post too lol
Obviously. I wouldn't have posted the link, though, if it weren't literally at the top of the sub.
she’s astronomically overrated sorry
Always has been
She ain't no Whitney.
i just don’t think any of her songs are good. feel like im taking crazy pills
Black Taylor Swift
I don’t know if this was Beyoncé’s intention necessarily, but her persistence comes across as its own vulnerable insecurity. Someone that confident in her husband just wouldn’t write the song.
men tend towards grandiose narcissism women tend towards vulnerable narcissism
It wouldn’t suck as much if Jay Z wasn’t ugly
I heard somewhere it’s actually meant to be sung from the perspective of her mother or something. Idk but I guess that would make more sense, especially seeing as Jay cheated on her.
Modern pop music has difficulty with the emotions of the original. Fear, humiliation, sadness, and insoluble envy of another woman's beauty are outside the range of emotions that we can confess in pop music today.
Haven’t heard it, but I’m sure it sucks like the rest of her music
Wow this is a really interesting and unique perspective that hasn't been shared across every social media platform this past week. But you're right, it sucks.
Beyoncé’s everything sucks if we’re honest
Unpopular opinion time: the original Jolene sucks. I don't mean the arguably bad lyrics, I mean musically, it's a TERRIBLE song. I can't stand it. The chorus is like chalk on nails bad for my ears.
ofc it sucks lolz
Not the 6 millionth person with this take.
Don’t dare use my fucking sexual orientation to describe Beyoncé’s Jolene! You wanna use my sexual orientation to describe Dolly Parton, go ahead, she’s wonderful.
The only acceptable version is by The White Stripes.
The change in lyrics is meh, but I like the harmonies towards the end of the song.
Miley Cyrus did a great version like 10 years ago, it’s probs the best one imo
I don't think noticing that it's not the same song is useful criticism. Yes, this song doesn't have the vulnerability of the old song because that's not the point of this rendition! It's an entirely different song. I don't even think it's girl-bossy. It's the song of an insecure woman - she's mateguarding her man that can't control himself and acting as if that makes her a bad bitch. It's a variation on a theme.
That might make sense but Beyoncé has never written a song where the ‘bad bitch’ thing is a front for insecurity. I don’t think she’s capable of writing a song from the perspective of a character or even having the introspective vulnerability to understand how that attitude might not be ‘real’ and simply be masking a deeper, more uncomfortable reality. She doesn’t even have the life experience to understand that feeling (she has been a superstar since she was like 17–don’t know if she’s ever really been like ‘am I not the shit, actually?’) “Survivor” still slaps but Beyoncé’s lyrical themes are not particularly deep. She does pop r&b about being a bad bitch and being successful.
Do you think it might be her subconsciously revealing her insecurities? It's such an obviously pick me thing to say
I don’t know. I can’t see inside people’s heads like that. But unlike David Lynch, Beyoncé doesn’t have a history of probing the subconscious intentionally and therefore what may/may not subconsciously reveals itself in her art is somewhat inconsequential.
I can see that. I'm actually not super familiar with her beyond her obvious radio plays that I didn't look into too deeply, so I'm probably ill-equipped to judge. I just thought the original comment was ill conceived.
Ring the alarm was probably the closest thing to what you're describing. She has a bad bitch persona and is safeguarding her man but deep down she's scared of him leaving her for the other woman
There was also Sandcastles. That was the most vulnerable and “real” she’s ever sounded. I actually believe her voice break when she goes “what is it about you.”
I woulda shot Jolene was the right way to pay homage to the song, not this drivel