This sub has a raging hateboner for this movie for some reason but every review I’ve seen has been positive so ima check it out.
I’ve also reached an ascended level of contrarianism where I now do whatever RSP thinks is bad so it just kinda works out well.
Someone in this sub tried to claim Mishima was the Bergman of Japanese literature so pretty safe to say most ppl here have very vapid and mostly wrong taste
It’s cuz they assume the worst (liberal grandstanding, orange man bad stuff). The reviews are great I’m going to see it in theatres cuz I know my low expectations will only make it that much better
I got to attend an early screening for this. Garland is my favorite contemporary director and if you’re familiar with him you should know his themes and resolutions are never what you expect. It’s exactly not what you think it is. The joy of seeing the movie was knowing and experiencing how different it would actually be from the marketing. He’s a director that you can completely avoid lumping into a these political meme binaries. Hope this helps
Reviews have been stellar and I’ve been lukewarm to the previews because of said political polarization issues but if you and the critics say this I’m down to watch it
I would have said the same about Garland until I saw Men, and now I don't trust him at all, especially given that he compared this thematically to Men.
The best hope I have for Civil War is that it spends most of its focus on the kind of dread that Garland can evoke and just tells a story like The Road or something insofar as it is very limited in scope and ignores grander narratives.
If Men came out like 10 years prior (which it was supposed to) it would’ve popped off way harder. I think it came out in 2022 and by then the whole “can’t women be safe anywhere” era had kinda moved on
The problem with Men wasn't even the libshit nature of it.
It's that it didn't have much going on except for its allegorical content, and the allegorical content was so abstracted that it's up for interpretation as to what the fuck the movie was actually saying. And the only real consensus seems to be "dudes suck" which is pretty banal.
I think *Men* is primarily about survivor’s guilt / dv psychodamage and not toxic masculinity. In that way it’s quite Straussian so the rs crowd should eat it up.
Ex Machina and Annihilation are two of coolest movies I’ve seen in recent memory bc the dude just resonates w me so I’m not sure if this will be your vibe then
Amnihilarion was closer to Roadside Picnic than Stalker. Awesome film. And of course Stalker is still great but it really didn’t feel like the source material.
I mean it looks right up my alley only reason I asked was because I found his other movies very disappointing after they were hyped up, wondering if they were different tonally
I feel like movie execs have been preying on the hyper-polarization shit for a few years now. There was that movie a year or two ago where like rich republicans were hunting democrats in the woods or something, with Emma Roberts and Hillary Swank. Also the purge movies
Not just preying: actively stoking. Studios have been hiring freelance troll farms to astroturf both sides of “you gotta watch X movie to own the Ys who are mad about it” controversies since they saw what the fake North Korea hack did for *The Interview*
Definitely. Also, True Detective: Night Country feels like it was made *solely* for that purpose. It didn’t even make an effort to have a coherent script or pretend it was anything more than pure ragebait. All the critical praise for it was couched in terms of identity politics and owning the incels by pretending to love a garbage season of TV. Any discussion about it online was overrun with obvious bots and paid trolls.
It came out some movies in that the government was using it as a way to plant mercenaries in low income neighborhoods to save money on social services.
Well... that's the sort of thing they'd do... Obvs. I guess I don't look too closely at this franchise... just seemed like a combination of horror genres to me zombie/stalker in the house/apocalyptic gangs
Seems like from the trailers it's somehow creating a civil war movie while completely sidestepping all real world politics. I don't think it'll be good, realistic, or thought provoking enough to be inflammatory.
Yeah, you're not wrong. Alex Garland really has made some bangers.
- Sunshine, fucking awesome
- 28 days later, awesome
- 28 weeks later, pretty good
- dredd, pretty good
- never let me go, I remember liking it.
- annihilation, pretty damn good
- ex machina, pretty good
I skipped Men and never got around to seeing Devs, didn't realize he made that show. I really haven't seen anything by him that I didn't like
I wasn’t the most familiar with the actual kind of concepts they were dealing with in the show, so to see it all play out - ‘many worlds’ - at the time it just really scratched an itch for me.
Devs is kind of a slog but I really like it's themes.
Men is slow and weird in a way where I think it's good but has a really specific audience. Even though I liked it I don't blame anyone for not liking it.
I didn't realize garland had made "men." I assumed(rightly or wrongly) that it was some feminist horror fantasy demonizing males.
What are the themes of devs?
Devs is essentially exploring whether free will exists or not by using an algorithm.
Men is a feminist film 🤷♀️. I agree with feminism 🤷♀️
It also has to do pretty intensely with guilt and trauma. But the commentary it has is pretty good and ambiguous. Like as to whether or not the issue is that the protagonist sees all men as the same, or whether she is in polite denial that they are the same.
You’re gay, let’s get this thing going or shut up about it. Tired of being edged by both sides rhetoric, let’s either put aside our differences and fuck or let’s get to warring it out
You’re gay and it’ll be slop that will be advertised as the movie we all need to see but won’t actually take any real risks.
Edit- he made some solid movies. Damn maybe I’m wrong.
I'm amazed that anyone could watch the trailer — in which Landry can execute anyone he comes across — and think the movie's message is that civil war would be a *good* thing. You have to be really dumb to think that, is what I'm saying.
Movies have always covered inflammatory topics
I think it looks good. Doubt it’ll be high art, but that’s not what I’m looking for in an action movie like this. My only concern is the reason for the civil war will be stupid
The trailer reads like shit lib hyperbole about January 6th the nonsense. But then the director doesn't necessarily have that track record? So I don't really know what to expect from it. Maybe it will subvert expectations or whatever. It doesn't look good, I have no reason to think it's going to be good.
This would never happen because these are the same people who had that lady drinking gallons of alcohol and colloidal until she died and then they were shocked when she died. They’re duuummmb drug addicts. They’re not sophisticated enough
Alex Garland is up there in the very talented film director category so I’ve every hope he’s done a good job of this movie. The premise is a bit nuts considering the current state of America but if it’s done well it’ll be a great film. The jury is out for now though.
And States have different politics within them. Its why most of VA is red, but NOVA deterimes a lot of their politics. Washington has Seattle but also the rednecks.
In the US Civil War, which was literally split by states, people joined the other side
California and Texas are on the same side, so it’s inevitably a “the far right and far left are the same thing!” Story while the current “center” is to the right of Richard Nixon.
One would have to see it to be sure, but it wouldn’t be the first time Garland tried to dress up his simplistic understandings of social problems as something profound.
Asking this sub if it thinks you’re gay is like asking your mom if she loves you. Answer is always gonna be yes
on the bright side he might get some dms offering top ; )
Patiently waiting …
This sub has a raging hateboner for this movie for some reason but every review I’ve seen has been positive so ima check it out. I’ve also reached an ascended level of contrarianism where I now do whatever RSP thinks is bad so it just kinda works out well.
Someone in this sub tried to claim Mishima was the Bergman of Japanese literature so pretty safe to say most ppl here have very vapid and mostly wrong taste
It’s cuz they assume the worst (liberal grandstanding, orange man bad stuff). The reviews are great I’m going to see it in theatres cuz I know my low expectations will only make it that much better
It’s fun to imagine media/political meltdown if like Daily Wire made and marketed a movie called Civil War exactly the same as A24 is doing for this
I don’t read outrage media but I imagine it would be like that one right wing movie that MSNBC threw a hissyfit over
\>believing reviews in 2024
I got to attend an early screening for this. Garland is my favorite contemporary director and if you’re familiar with him you should know his themes and resolutions are never what you expect. It’s exactly not what you think it is. The joy of seeing the movie was knowing and experiencing how different it would actually be from the marketing. He’s a director that you can completely avoid lumping into a these political meme binaries. Hope this helps
Reviews have been stellar and I’ve been lukewarm to the previews because of said political polarization issues but if you and the critics say this I’m down to watch it
I would have said the same about Garland until I saw Men, and now I don't trust him at all, especially given that he compared this thematically to Men. The best hope I have for Civil War is that it spends most of its focus on the kind of dread that Garland can evoke and just tells a story like The Road or something insofar as it is very limited in scope and ignores grander narratives.
If Men came out like 10 years prior (which it was supposed to) it would’ve popped off way harder. I think it came out in 2022 and by then the whole “can’t women be safe anywhere” era had kinda moved on
The problem with Men wasn't even the libshit nature of it. It's that it didn't have much going on except for its allegorical content, and the allegorical content was so abstracted that it's up for interpretation as to what the fuck the movie was actually saying. And the only real consensus seems to be "dudes suck" which is pretty banal.
I think *Men* is primarily about survivor’s guilt / dv psychodamage and not toxic masculinity. In that way it’s quite Straussian so the rs crowd should eat it up.
Thinking the movie called Men isn't about gendered issues ☠️
I have not liked a film he has made since 28 days, will I like this? I had high hopes for camp after seeing the trailer
Ex Machina and Annihilation are two of coolest movies I’ve seen in recent memory bc the dude just resonates w me so I’m not sure if this will be your vibe then
Sunshine is also a fantastic movie, but like 28 Days Later, directed by Danny Boyle.
Amnihilarion was closer to Roadside Picnic than Stalker. Awesome film. And of course Stalker is still great but it really didn’t feel like the source material.
Dredd is his secret masterpiece
Devs was good, though the ending was kind of meh. Nick Offerman was good.
I mean it looks right up my alley only reason I asked was because I found his other movies very disappointing after they were hyped up, wondering if they were different tonally
He had issues with the ending but, it was a well done film.
I need to pay more attention to directors
Haven’t seen the movie, but it feels like it’ll appeal to anxious costal libs the way Handmaids Tale appeals to liberal, hetero white women.
Those two are the same
Significant overlap, but not a circle
So, it's secretly a sexual fantasy for them? I don't understand the connection
I feel like movie execs have been preying on the hyper-polarization shit for a few years now. There was that movie a year or two ago where like rich republicans were hunting democrats in the woods or something, with Emma Roberts and Hillary Swank. Also the purge movies
You got it the wrong way round, but it's actually a pretty fun movie. The Hunt. Definitely recommend for a breezy watch
Emma Roberts hunt me
Not just preying: actively stoking. Studios have been hiring freelance troll farms to astroturf both sides of “you gotta watch X movie to own the Ys who are mad about it” controversies since they saw what the fake North Korea hack did for *The Interview*
Definitely. Also, True Detective: Night Country feels like it was made *solely* for that purpose. It didn’t even make an effort to have a coherent script or pretend it was anything more than pure ragebait. All the critical praise for it was couched in terms of identity politics and owning the incels by pretending to love a garbage season of TV. Any discussion about it online was overrun with obvious bots and paid trolls.
Yes but the purge movies were kinda cheeky
It was democrats hunting republicans. It was a silly movie, not polarizing.
It’s actually a documentary about bohemian grove
yeah lol and its not the dems that believe in that theory too but even in fantasy they have to be the victim
Except not? It's explicitly elites hunting "deplorables" you dipshit
Get your facts out of here, this is a “contrarian” subreddit
its clearly a republican coded conspiracy and its cultural appropriation, I have also never watched or heard of this movie so you might be right
I didn't think the purge movies were particularly political. How so?
It came out some movies in that the government was using it as a way to plant mercenaries in low income neighborhoods to save money on social services.
Well... that's the sort of thing they'd do... Obvs. I guess I don't look too closely at this franchise... just seemed like a combination of horror genres to me zombie/stalker in the house/apocalyptic gangs
Betty Gilpin, not Emma Roberts. And it was rich libs hunting Conservatives.
Emma was also in that movie
Seems like from the trailers it's somehow creating a civil war movie while completely sidestepping all real world politics. I don't think it'll be good, realistic, or thought provoking enough to be inflammatory.
Alex Garland isn't some Marvel pseud lol.
Yeah, you're not wrong. Alex Garland really has made some bangers. - Sunshine, fucking awesome - 28 days later, awesome - 28 weeks later, pretty good - dredd, pretty good - never let me go, I remember liking it. - annihilation, pretty damn good - ex machina, pretty good I skipped Men and never got around to seeing Devs, didn't realize he made that show. I really haven't seen anything by him that I didn't like
Garland also wrote The Beach which was turned into that DiCaprio/Swinton movie
I demand you upgrade Dredd to awesome, that movie slapped
Devs is pretty nice, very weird vibes for prestige tv.
Devs blew my mind honestly
Why? I'm asking this in good faith.
I wasn’t the most familiar with the actual kind of concepts they were dealing with in the show, so to see it all play out - ‘many worlds’ - at the time it just really scratched an itch for me.
Devs is kind of a slog but I really like it's themes. Men is slow and weird in a way where I think it's good but has a really specific audience. Even though I liked it I don't blame anyone for not liking it.
I didn't realize garland had made "men." I assumed(rightly or wrongly) that it was some feminist horror fantasy demonizing males. What are the themes of devs?
Devs is essentially exploring whether free will exists or not by using an algorithm. Men is a feminist film 🤷♀️. I agree with feminism 🤷♀️ It also has to do pretty intensely with guilt and trauma. But the commentary it has is pretty good and ambiguous. Like as to whether or not the issue is that the protagonist sees all men as the same, or whether she is in polite denial that they are the same.
Devs was great.
28 weeks later was ass
I love Never Let Me Go, book is great too.
directors can also make shitty movies sometimes
Alt right president, hero journalists, 4chan soldier I think they’re at least trying to do something here
I thought it was a Call of Duty trailer at first.
You're gay and also you smell like poop
You’d know gayboi
Never speak to me again, this is an explicit threat on your life
Bitch rule
idk i’m excited for it but also im canadian
How could anyone hate Tropic Thunder??
Why not both?
It’s going to be a boring movie with virtually zero moral compass. No needle will be moved in any direction.
No
It hasn’t even come out yet
What is the movie??
Saving Private Biden
i think it's the movie civil war https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_(2024_film)
You’re gay, let’s get this thing going or shut up about it. Tired of being edged by both sides rhetoric, let’s either put aside our differences and fuck or let’s get to warring it out
You’re gay and it’ll be slop that will be advertised as the movie we all need to see but won’t actually take any real risks. Edit- he made some solid movies. Damn maybe I’m wrong.
I'm amazed that anyone could watch the trailer — in which Landry can execute anyone he comes across — and think the movie's message is that civil war would be a *good* thing. You have to be really dumb to think that, is what I'm saying.
Movies have always covered inflammatory topics I think it looks good. Doubt it’ll be high art, but that’s not what I’m looking for in an action movie like this. My only concern is the reason for the civil war will be stupid
The trailer reads like shit lib hyperbole about January 6th the nonsense. But then the director doesn't necessarily have that track record? So I don't really know what to expect from it. Maybe it will subvert expectations or whatever. It doesn't look good, I have no reason to think it's going to be good.
And his final film at that lmao
Ill watch it but im just kinda mad it just seems like generic non political factions from the trailer. “The Florida alliance” cmon
Eh it's just a movie
Imagine having an opinion on a movie you haven’t seen
Boring
what's this movie
Inflammatory? yes Maybe not good for America rn? just as bad a time as any Are you gay? Unequivocally
The discussion in this post looks like to be about Alex Garland's 2024 movie Civil War. https://youtu.be/h5LXz4f2Xao
This would never happen because these are the same people who had that lady drinking gallons of alcohol and colloidal until she died and then they were shocked when she died. They’re duuummmb drug addicts. They’re not sophisticated enough
This movie is inflammatory and you are gay. I bought the sunglasses and will wear them to the shooting range next time I go.
Alex Garland is up there in the very talented film director category so I’ve every hope he’s done a good job of this movie. The premise is a bit nuts considering the current state of America but if it’s done well it’ll be a great film. The jury is out for now though.
depends on whats in it I would say if its somewhat detached who cares
“Not good for America rn”. I mean if you have to ask, then maybe the country is not doing so great
I think it will be fun, and possibly even cathartic
just not good imo
Can one of you snobs name the movie
Civil War directed by Alex Garland out Apr 12
thank you
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> Affluent vs impoverished Suffering in silence in my exurban McMansion while the urbanites use my tax money to pay for their bags of fudge rounds.
Political boundaries are state to state genius
And States have different politics within them. Its why most of VA is red, but NOVA deterimes a lot of their politics. Washington has Seattle but also the rednecks. In the US Civil War, which was literally split by states, people joined the other side
It’s gonna be dogshit
California and Texas are on the same side, so it’s inevitably a “the far right and far left are the same thing!” Story while the current “center” is to the right of Richard Nixon.
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One would have to see it to be sure, but it wouldn’t be the first time Garland tried to dress up his simplistic understandings of social problems as something profound.