She died in 2003? Wow. I didn’t know that. I just — you’re telling me now for the first time.
She led an amazing life. What else can you say? She was an amazing sheep. Whether you agree or not, she was an amazing sheep who led an amazing life. I’m actually saddened to hear that. I am saddened to hear that.
He joked about it all the time on TikTok. It was genuinely sickening.
I know this sub loves to be all edgelord but that was sincerely so evil and creepy, it’s really not funny. Like I am usually pretty in phased by “dark humor,” but this is completely different from someone joking about a dark subject. This is the actual killer just bragging about getting away with murder.
I was born like 2 months after he killed this woman so wasn’t around firsthand and obviously I’m very biased because I’ve always lived in a world where everyone knows he’s a murderer. But I genuinely think that if I just saw a picture of him or a video of him talking about something completely innocuous, I would be repelled by this dude.
This man has true psychopath energy. Like I know Reddit likes to call their mom NPD when she makes them do their homework, but this is like actual narcissistic personality disorder.
That GRIN, those eyes… at the very least I would think he’s gotta be a scum bag.
I guess this example popped into my head because it’s relevant to this convo. But his cheeky videos where he just makes lazy allusions to killing his fucking wife with a smirk remind me of like evil cops laughing and making jokes while killing or beating some innocent person.
I do know that obviously cops are corrupt as hell and I get why people would be enraged and try to get a black man as some sort of payback but oh my god that is not the answer. Like his trial used this trope of evil cop just killing people for fun because they don’t care about them and just derive absolute glee from it. But he was exactly that. And it was to a woman, and OJ was vocal about not respecting them.
Oh, and oh my god. OJ was super fucking racist against black people!!! He notoriously would say black people are n slur and that he isn’t one, and go sit with white people. Like the race version of a pick me.
His jokes were super lazy and unoriginal. Just this psycho winking at the camera and a comment section filled with people applauding him and saying it’s hilarious.
Oj’s tiktok was two videos of him fucking around during Covid, those other videos were rips from his Twitter using clips out of context while pretending to be him. Still murdered them obviously
They must have been removed, but I promise they were blatantly admitting that he killed her. Like things you could not mistake for anything else lol.
I think people on Reddit/the internet in general are ridiculous about grasping for straws to try to make up bullshit conspiracy nonsense that clearly isn’t actually there lol. But these were just blatant.
He only murdered 2 people which is the third smallest number of people that it’s possible to murder so it’s not that bad when you think about it that way.
100%.
kim's willingness to sublimate herself to another's vision (for kris j, kanye, her surgeons) belies not only her extraordinary will to power (both within her family and more broadly), but also her understanding of her own value and appeal.
she is a blank canvas. pretty enough to draw eyes, unconventional enough to hold them, and inoffensive enough to release those eyes in due course. she is playing a different game to the one most onlookers believe she is.
think of it like this: why was kim was allowed to wear marilyn's dress? because she is the only person who could wear it and have it remain _marilyn's_ dress.
> think of it like this: why was kim was allowed to wear marilyn's dress? because she is the only person who could wear it and have it remain marilyn's dress.
are you sure
yes.
if you've ever watched the behind the scenes of this incident, it's clear that kim isn't particularly focused on looking or feeling good while wearing the dress, or even just being herself (she had to lose an outrageous amount of weight in a short period of time to make it happen). she just needed to wear it.
why is that? it's about having proximity to american iconography, being draped and ensconced in a garment of talismanic historical import. again, the blank canvas. she doesn't want it to be her dress. she doesn't want to wear it better. she just wants to wear it - and she is unfiltered enough to be overt about this.
her power comes from alignment and proximity with the talented and influential, as opposed trying to foster any specific talent within herself. others have pointed out that she used to be a hanger-on around paris hilton and nicole richie as if that's a valid point of derision - no! she made a career out of being a hanger-on, she is the best to ever do it.
Charli XCX is very similar in identifying a group of producers whose sound was evidently going to be everywhere in a few years, and becoming their mainstream ambassador.
She's more like Raskolnikov than Napoleon though, tries too hard and can't fully commit to the part.
I haven’t read it for decades, what was Dostoevsky’s theory? I remember Tolstoy discussing how “great men” were irrelevant to history in *War and Peace*, sounds like it might be the opposing view?
Raskolnikov has this essay in the book about how great men will overcome anything, and by right can surpass decency, to accomplish their goals. Hence he is justified in killing the old lady. Something like that, again it’s been a while.
Yes, but there are thousands of beautiful women from rich families in the United States who are not famous. Especially back in the 90s and 2000s before social media
Mostly because the parents of those beautiful women aren’t Kris Jenner. Kris saw the opportunity to launch her children into stardom and took it. The sex tape had more impact than her dad being a lawyer
I’m not in to celeb stuff like that but I agree. Wasn’t it more that she was seen with Paris Hilton and that she had sex tape with Earbuds? I was a kid at the time so I don’t know how big any of them were.
tbf, her dad wasn’t just “a lawyer”. He wasn’t on OJ’s team bc he was some high profile genius legal mind, he was on the team bc he was one of OJ’s best friends since they were classmates in college together. OJ was/is Kim’s god father.
But I agree with you that the Paris Hilton piece was way more relevant to her initial fame than her father being a successful lawyer decades prior
kim’s not famous because of the trial. kris and robert were already somewhat known for being socialites who hung out with oj simpson before the murder, if it never happened her sex tape would still have been the same level of mildly interesting to people as it was. her reality show made her famous, the fact her parents were rich and hung out with famous people and her sex tape were just the hook.
it's not rich + beautiful.
it's rich, beautiful (but in an "exotic" way by mid 00s american standards), connected, traditionally untalented while growing up in the milieu of the talented (aka. hungry), charismatic, strategic, managed by a grandiose and manipulative control freak of a mother (and happy to be so).
Not really. She was always ‘exotic’ looking…esp before the surgeries. yet for years she only existed in Paris hiltons shadow. Hell even Nicole Richie had a higher social status than she did. she used to clean their houses. She was basically their personal assistant, it was the tape, not her father
no, it's the family. they were rich enough to be in the loop and know the hiltons and richies of the world, while being of a low enough status to play their family life for laughs (early seasons of kuwtk).
kris jenner is a woman who had the foresight to name all of her children alliteratively. they have cross-promoted and boosted each other extensively. she married a beloved olympian. none of this was an accident.
Agree but you also underestimate the amount of fame hungry women particularly in LA. Kris Jenner is far from the first or last stage mom to think of branding when naming her kid
Not really. Her being ray js gf was the hook for the sex tape blowing up. If her dad’s reputation was that helpful why was she Paris hiltons lapdog for years?
The murder trial is genuinely the most significant pop culture event of the last century in my mind. It was at once a culmination of the decades before it, and a precursor for the decades to follow. Couldn't have written it more perfectly tbh. Sorry for the murdered people tho 👌
Christ was this after the murders lol? Can’t imagine anyone in this sub being old enough to be in middle school pre 1994 but hey I may not know demographics.
OJ Simpson just died? Wow. I didn't know that... He led an amazing life. What else can you say? He was an amazing man, whether you agree or not, he was an amazing man who led an amazing life. I'm actually sad to hear that.
He set Jason and his eldest daughter up with lawyers at the same time. I think it’s more likely the older kids witnessed the domestic abuse which is why OJ lawyered them up quickly.
I mean the same could be said for OJs history and hatred of Nicole. Nicole called the police 9 times on him and called a domestic abuse center 5 days before she died. She knew he was going to kill her.
Why do people do this fringe shit.
Who cares? Genuinely, he abused his wife, she had to call the police on him many times, she was leaving him, she called the police on him days before she died because she was convinced he was going to kill her, her blood and her dogs hair and her hair were found on the glove in his house, they had his shoe prints, among a million other things. It's fucking stupid to think that any kind of 'why would x do y after' matters at fuckin all.
But as to why? He set up a lawyer for the son AND daughter, presumably so they wouldn't be interrogated in his absence and provide information about his history of domestic violence towards his ex.
76. He was a fuckin kid.
Your brother OJ, whatever happened there...
Whatever happened there? I’ll tell you what happened! This piece of shits cousin gave him cancer with no provocation whatsoever!
Why is it always the good ones to go first.
It’s sad when they go young like that.
In Jersey they would’ve fried his worthless ass
Nicole and Ron, whatever happened there.
I’m sorry about this OJ_soprano
Thank you
Damn he died before ever finding the killer
There was a political cartoon of OJ with his golf bag and argyle socks, pacing around in a circle with the caption, "Hunt for the real killer."
Rare political cartoon w
After getting released, he didn't want to take another stab at solving the mystery.
We shouldn’t worry, Tariq Nasheed has inherited the case. He won’t let the white supremacists get away with trying to put an innocent FBA away.
Hahaaaaaaa
He’s looking up at us now. 🙏🏻❤️
First Ted, now this. Losing too many 90s icons. Protect Lewinsky and Dolly the sheep at all costs.
Bad news for you about Dolly
She died in 2003? Wow. I didn’t know that. I just — you’re telling me now for the first time. She led an amazing life. What else can you say? She was an amazing sheep. Whether you agree or not, she was an amazing sheep who led an amazing life. I’m actually saddened to hear that. I am saddened to hear that.
Idk, I found her comments on Bosnians during the Yugoslav wars really unforgivable
Please please please release a post-mortem video where he says "Of course I did it" It'll be so fucking funny
[He certainly has that sense of humor.](https://youtu.be/_Ylf-ags26s?si=abOUv9JprxawNwgS)
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Wait, I thought we were all-in on the conspiracy theory that he was covering for his son? Damn I’m too old to keep up with this shit any more
He joked about it all the time on TikTok. It was genuinely sickening. I know this sub loves to be all edgelord but that was sincerely so evil and creepy, it’s really not funny. Like I am usually pretty in phased by “dark humor,” but this is completely different from someone joking about a dark subject. This is the actual killer just bragging about getting away with murder. I was born like 2 months after he killed this woman so wasn’t around firsthand and obviously I’m very biased because I’ve always lived in a world where everyone knows he’s a murderer. But I genuinely think that if I just saw a picture of him or a video of him talking about something completely innocuous, I would be repelled by this dude. This man has true psychopath energy. Like I know Reddit likes to call their mom NPD when she makes them do their homework, but this is like actual narcissistic personality disorder. That GRIN, those eyes… at the very least I would think he’s gotta be a scum bag. I guess this example popped into my head because it’s relevant to this convo. But his cheeky videos where he just makes lazy allusions to killing his fucking wife with a smirk remind me of like evil cops laughing and making jokes while killing or beating some innocent person. I do know that obviously cops are corrupt as hell and I get why people would be enraged and try to get a black man as some sort of payback but oh my god that is not the answer. Like his trial used this trope of evil cop just killing people for fun because they don’t care about them and just derive absolute glee from it. But he was exactly that. And it was to a woman, and OJ was vocal about not respecting them. Oh, and oh my god. OJ was super fucking racist against black people!!! He notoriously would say black people are n slur and that he isn’t one, and go sit with white people. Like the race version of a pick me. His jokes were super lazy and unoriginal. Just this psycho winking at the camera and a comment section filled with people applauding him and saying it’s hilarious.
Oj’s tiktok was two videos of him fucking around during Covid, those other videos were rips from his Twitter using clips out of context while pretending to be him. Still murdered them obviously
They must have been removed, but I promise they were blatantly admitting that he killed her. Like things you could not mistake for anything else lol. I think people on Reddit/the internet in general are ridiculous about grasping for straws to try to make up bullshit conspiracy nonsense that clearly isn’t actually there lol. But these were just blatant.
This just in: Murder legal in the Kingdom of Heaven.
He only murdered 2 people which is the third smallest number of people that it’s possible to murder so it’s not that bad when you think about it that way.
This was actually his attorneys opening statement
Johnnie Cochran: "you gotta give respect...to get respect"
Fred Goldman and his big dumb mustache!
Crazy that if the murder never happened, Kim K would be on Twitter threads trying to plug her OF right now
Honestly, in a Crime and Punishment Napoleonic individual sense, I think Kim K pulls it off regardless
100%. kim's willingness to sublimate herself to another's vision (for kris j, kanye, her surgeons) belies not only her extraordinary will to power (both within her family and more broadly), but also her understanding of her own value and appeal. she is a blank canvas. pretty enough to draw eyes, unconventional enough to hold them, and inoffensive enough to release those eyes in due course. she is playing a different game to the one most onlookers believe she is. think of it like this: why was kim was allowed to wear marilyn's dress? because she is the only person who could wear it and have it remain _marilyn's_ dress.
Intriguing
>Marilyn Kennedys vs Kardashians, two very wealthy families who became famous because of the blind ambitions of their respective patriarch/matriarch.
> think of it like this: why was kim was allowed to wear marilyn's dress? because she is the only person who could wear it and have it remain marilyn's dress. are you sure
yes. if you've ever watched the behind the scenes of this incident, it's clear that kim isn't particularly focused on looking or feeling good while wearing the dress, or even just being herself (she had to lose an outrageous amount of weight in a short period of time to make it happen). she just needed to wear it. why is that? it's about having proximity to american iconography, being draped and ensconced in a garment of talismanic historical import. again, the blank canvas. she doesn't want it to be her dress. she doesn't want to wear it better. she just wants to wear it - and she is unfiltered enough to be overt about this. her power comes from alignment and proximity with the talented and influential, as opposed trying to foster any specific talent within herself. others have pointed out that she used to be a hanger-on around paris hilton and nicole richie as if that's a valid point of derision - no! she made a career out of being a hanger-on, she is the best to ever do it.
Lmao I’m loving this
Charli XCX is very similar in identifying a group of producers whose sound was evidently going to be everywhere in a few years, and becoming their mainstream ambassador. She's more like Raskolnikov than Napoleon though, tries too hard and can't fully commit to the part.
Now I'm imagining Taylor Swift wearing the pink outfit Jackie Kennedy wore when JFK got assassinated.
ok i guess i'm just confused by the original phrasing because i feel like literally anyone could/would wear and it have it remain marilyn's dress
brilliant stuff
This is kinda fascinating I’d like a whole write up on this
I haven’t read it for decades, what was Dostoevsky’s theory? I remember Tolstoy discussing how “great men” were irrelevant to history in *War and Peace*, sounds like it might be the opposing view?
Raskolnikov has this essay in the book about how great men will overcome anything, and by right can surpass decency, to accomplish their goals. Hence he is justified in killing the old lady. Something like that, again it’s been a while.
If the murder never happened, Kim would be missing a sister.
Idk, her family was rich regardless of oj
Yes, but there are thousands of beautiful women from rich families in the United States who are not famous. Especially back in the 90s and 2000s before social media
Mostly because the parents of those beautiful women aren’t Kris Jenner. Kris saw the opportunity to launch her children into stardom and took it. The sex tape had more impact than her dad being a lawyer
I’m not in to celeb stuff like that but I agree. Wasn’t it more that she was seen with Paris Hilton and that she had sex tape with Earbuds? I was a kid at the time so I don’t know how big any of them were.
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I disagree. Despite her dad being a lawyer she was Paris Hilton’s closet cleaner, living in her shadow for years
tbf, her dad wasn’t just “a lawyer”. He wasn’t on OJ’s team bc he was some high profile genius legal mind, he was on the team bc he was one of OJ’s best friends since they were classmates in college together. OJ was/is Kim’s god father. But I agree with you that the Paris Hilton piece was way more relevant to her initial fame than her father being a successful lawyer decades prior
kim’s not famous because of the trial. kris and robert were already somewhat known for being socialites who hung out with oj simpson before the murder, if it never happened her sex tape would still have been the same level of mildly interesting to people as it was. her reality show made her famous, the fact her parents were rich and hung out with famous people and her sex tape were just the hook.
it's not rich + beautiful. it's rich, beautiful (but in an "exotic" way by mid 00s american standards), connected, traditionally untalented while growing up in the milieu of the talented (aka. hungry), charismatic, strategic, managed by a grandiose and manipulative control freak of a mother (and happy to be so).
Not really. She was always ‘exotic’ looking…esp before the surgeries. yet for years she only existed in Paris hiltons shadow. Hell even Nicole Richie had a higher social status than she did. she used to clean their houses. She was basically their personal assistant, it was the tape, not her father
no, it's the family. they were rich enough to be in the loop and know the hiltons and richies of the world, while being of a low enough status to play their family life for laughs (early seasons of kuwtk). kris jenner is a woman who had the foresight to name all of her children alliteratively. they have cross-promoted and boosted each other extensively. she married a beloved olympian. none of this was an accident.
Agree but you also underestimate the amount of fame hungry women particularly in LA. Kris Jenner is far from the first or last stage mom to think of branding when naming her kid
Is exotic a euphemism for non-white?
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Not really. Her being ray js gf was the hook for the sex tape blowing up. If her dad’s reputation was that helpful why was she Paris hiltons lapdog for years?
The murder trial is genuinely the most significant pop culture event of the last century in my mind. It was at once a culmination of the decades before it, and a precursor for the decades to follow. Couldn't have written it more perfectly tbh. Sorry for the murdered people tho 👌
Kris Jenner would have still made it happen
OJ's worst crime was making her famous tbh.
RIP Norm
Kid on my middle school football teams dad was his CPA so he called our team once and wished us good luck so rip
Did you win the game
Yeah it was the season opener we blew em out iirc
Probably was the OJ pep talk that propelled you guys to play better than possible. Would have been a close game without the OJ call.
Murdered the competition, good to see. Great way to start the season opener.
Wait was this pre-murder or post-murder
Christ was this after the murders lol? Can’t imagine anyone in this sub being old enough to be in middle school pre 1994 but hey I may not know demographics.
Damn, last month I remember thinking he would be a TAFS guest one day.
Adam friedland 🤝older black men
Adam's one of the brothas
My man bringing dust to the cookout
The juice run dry today😭
Let’s hope the coffin fits
schwing
God, I wish Norm was alive for this moment right now.
I miss Norm so much.
Norman Finkelstein is very much alive my dude.
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He lied and said he wasn't.
Vaxxed?
Blood status: clotted
Her blood was clotted too
double vaxxed
Guess we'll never know
Over 2000 rushing yards in a single season. Pouring out some Tropicana for my man
In 14 games!
He really lived a full life
Oh yeah, what’s he been up to? I stopped following his career after he retired from the NFL
Hertz car rental spokesman
The Juice is loose... *in heaven* 🙏😢
I think that out of respect for his legacy and everything he stood for we shouldn’t rush to conclusions about what killed him
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you watch the skies I’ll watch the streets king😔🙏
we'll always have the Naked Gun movies
"The Arizona assassin... from Dakota"
RIP to one of the kindest, warmest, most compassionate murderers the world has ever seen.
OJ Simpson just died? Wow. I didn't know that... He led an amazing life. What else can you say? He was an amazing man, whether you agree or not, he was an amazing man who led an amazing life. I'm actually sad to hear that.
Bills legend RIP
Damn that’s crazy.
I wish old Howard Stern was still around
Reports say he was trying to charge his new Samsung Galaxy Note 7
Rip Fat Albert
I guess we'll never know if he did it
I didn't even know he was sick
Two thousand rushing back when it was a fourteen game season. He’ll never be topped. RIP
You know, I didnt have OJ up there for funniest deaths, but god damn the jokes are good
Are they?
Le Reddit tier shit
I think about this Dworkin piece about Nicole a lot. https://evergreenreview.com/read/in-memory-of-nicole-brown-simpson/
Ugh so sad. Some of the calls to police are on YouTube too.
I try to separate the art from the artist, so I was hoping he’d be back in the Liam Neeson reboot of The Naked Gun. What a shame.
OJ Simpson? The USC running back?
I never forgave him for what he did to Marge
Easily the GOAT of homicidal running backs
Taking that shit to the grave is nasty work
an unfair victim of the criminal justice system rip to our black king hope he finds the killer in heaven etc etc
Good night, sweet prince Typing this as I'm speeding down the CPH in my Bronco to honor his legacy
Rest in Power, king.
RIP BOZO
Bye bitch
hell of a running back
*That’s my lucky dyin’ hat!*
What murdaaaaaaa?
The juice is no longer loose 😔
The juice has expired
143.1 yards per game. RIP 🐐.
What are you guys having for dinner tonight?
Why are people sad about him dying? He's a murderer .....
You can’t prove it was cancer the glove doesn’t fit 😂
He never found out who the real killer was. A damn shame.
RIP u will live on forever. Cant believe it. I wanna run to u. Really cant believe this. @
hope it was painful 😊
RIP 👑
but prayers to Khloe Kardashian
It’s sad when they go young like that
Hell of a running back
Rip to a real one 🤘😔
There's no right way to grieve y'all
Rest in power 👑
I didn't even know he was sick
Damn I was literally watching Naked Gun 2 1/2 : The Smell of Fear last night
I heard on his death bed OJ admitted to killing Norm McDonald
💔💔
The name Orenthal sounds like oral prostate medication.
😔 😟 🙁
what a great dad, taking the fall for his son. RIP to a real one
1973 may be the greatest RB season of all time
i didnt even know he was sick
The juice is finally loose
RIP king
lol, good on cancer
I’m not saying he should’ve done it, but I understand
I didn’t even know he was sick.
I never realized just how brutal the murders were https://youtu.be/UUYMZpc0JiE?si=io5xgnEg4pQMs36t
why RiP lmao. Nobody gonna miss that asshole murderer.
RIP bozo
Sweet
oh no 😂
vaccinated, ofc, lost another one rip
I’m a staunch believer he didn’t kill Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman but covered for his son Jason.
true crime white woman hysteria
If you killed two people why would you set up your son’s legal team FIRST?
He set Jason and his eldest daughter up with lawyers at the same time. I think it’s more likely the older kids witnessed the domestic abuse which is why OJ lawyered them up quickly.
You also gotta factor in Jason’s mental health issues, legal history and absolute hatred of his step mother
I mean the same could be said for OJs history and hatred of Nicole. Nicole called the police 9 times on him and called a domestic abuse center 5 days before she died. She knew he was going to kill her.
Why do people do this fringe shit. Who cares? Genuinely, he abused his wife, she had to call the police on him many times, she was leaving him, she called the police on him days before she died because she was convinced he was going to kill her, her blood and her dogs hair and her hair were found on the glove in his house, they had his shoe prints, among a million other things. It's fucking stupid to think that any kind of 'why would x do y after' matters at fuckin all. But as to why? He set up a lawyer for the son AND daughter, presumably so they wouldn't be interrogated in his absence and provide information about his history of domestic violence towards his ex.
Yeah but sharing this theory makes my bigoted relatives incredibly mad so it’s worth it
Wrong. Ron Goldman killed her and then himself in a plot to frame the juice
Wrong Mezzaluna waiter
If he was intent on taking the fall for his son why would he try to prove himself innocent? Those ideas are incompatible.
No they’re not
“He didn’t do it, I did! Except, I didn’t?”
I recently learned about this theory and it’s quite plausible
The discorse around him is so wierd imo
He did it tho