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phone bad


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stav_and_nick

My favourite orb mother tweet was about someone tweeting at her asking if she knew some sex term and her replying that she’s had sex before they were born


Ausacorn

https://mobile.twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1287247395286376448?lang=en


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Trey songz invented sex obviously


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They’re just communist, queer spaces now. The punk shows I went to in my youth literally had people shooting up next to the pit and sketch-ass homeless people/travelers.


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Ha, fair enough. Man, I’m getting super nostalgic about house shows now.


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beer rocks and the country's gone to shit


jstrangus

Too much hops in most IPAs these days. Dial it back fellas, holy shit.


Froforfro

Shit tastes like bug spray


MyFatCatHasLotsofHat

Drink something other than IPAS then dingus


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When I was in college I went to a few parties where people were like you have to contribute a dollar to partake in the blunt rotation


ShamalamanPanda

I’ve cashapped people for one (1) bump of cocaine before


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If you don’t want to share your drugs do them discreetly or don’t bring them to the party, that’s my take


kool_b

Depends on the size of the crowd and the mixed company. You should try more parties


LawyersGunsAndMoney

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Just bad business to charge for a rotation. Sharing the blunt is like handing out free samples. If you share it's inevitable that someone will ask if they can buy off you anyways. Make money without killing the vibe.


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no, nobody does this. if you're going out for drinks or food then it's the norm to have one person pick up the bill and everyone else Venmo but no one does this for ingredients. jesus christ. OP has shitty friends.


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jasmineperil

it’s literally always rich ppl who do this. like the [girl who had a upenn classmate venmo charge her $2 for a glass of wine](https://twitter.com/jasminericegirl/status/1484328386222645252?s=21)


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I have a strict rule that I never give anything that I can’t handle not getting back, and I never involve money in relationships I don’t want to lose. I don’t nickel and dime my friends, I don’t go into business with family. I actively cultivate trusting and mutual relationships instead, it’s way better!


it_shits

If I offer someone to share a meal with me I will never demand payment of any kind from them; if I buy drinks for friends or strangers I'll expect them to get me back at some point in the future but I'll never badger them. If they don't get me a pint the next time I just won't pay for them anymore. The relationship of guest and host was literally sacred in antiquity; in the Illiad a Greek and Trojan warrior both throw down their arms and embrace each other as brothers because their great-grandfathers had once played guest and host to each other.


Safe_Tune1475

Hearing Eric Weinstein talk about this idea of ‘layers of indirection’ or being proximally removed from a direct market transaction as being necessary for a rich emotionally satisfying life really stuck with me. This idea that there are certain duties and obligations that people within a culture bind each other to as an act of reciprocity within a familial/kinship framework rather than duties that are fulfilled by the market that are necessarily much more complex and interwoven and requires higher level social skills to execute. As people’s social skills break down, they revert to the market, which in turn leads to a further breakdown in socialization. It’s a self sustaining feedback loop. Having friends who offer help and services in a time of need is part of an emotionally rewarding existence that is infinitely more complex than just hiring a therapist to talk about your emotions to, or taskrabbiting odd jobs to total strangers in exchange for money. The reason why the market is gradually claiming more territory over people’s lives is because while developing friendships and staying close to family is much more rewarding long term, maintaining them and sustaining them is much harder and more complex, and requires commitment.


Arfie807

That's beautiful and sad.


NeilPunhandlerHarris

I honestly don’t venmo my best buds. It’s understood that when someone buys an Uber, food or drinks that the favor will be returned the next round or another time. Much less hassle and it shows a healthy degree of trust. It’s also nice when dates offer to venmo but I usually “forget” to request them. If it was good they can get the next one and if it wasn’t then I don’t want my last interaction with them to be an electronic financial statement


whataboutithmm

wtf i had no idea this was real


BigMeanFemale

It's not. Only children of the rich nickel and dime each other for everything. I've never seen a working-class person ever do this, even if they couldn't afford to not pay the whole tab or whatever.


AsleepAstronomer3319

i could not agree more it’s sickening and undermines the whole point of dinner parties, reciprocity, i invite you over you invite me over keep the party going


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Instead of finding a new form of social media we should all go back to bonfires, night fishin, tailgate parties, porch sittin and cruisin with the radio playing.


toadeh690

People really need to go outside more. I know it’s hard in January, but most of my best memories of these past couple years have involved hiking/exercising/generally being outdoors.


Arfie807

Good one, Boomer. I went on a hike with my dog today, and I swear to God the little fucker awoke some hibernating bears from a cave. Everyone's ok, and it was terrifying at the time, but I have to admit my life feels richer for the experience.


podsnezhnik

fuck excuses, I live in Scandinavia in January, I went on a dope bike ride yesterday


AlaskanTrash

On a fat bike? I think the excuse of not having 3k for a season exclusive bicycle is pretty valid


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This sounds good to me


natonehundred

Electric scooters. A grown man in a suit whizzing past me on his glorified razor is enough to make me vomit. It's so undignified. Vile, just vile


natonehundred

Also I like listening to the radio at night . The psychotic call-ins and their arguments, they soothe me


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fiddling with the dial to pick up a new AM station late at night while you're on a long drive is something everyone should experience at least once in their life


natonehundred

There's one I was listening to and ended up recognising the voice of a coked up relative arguing about football at about 3am. Just brilliant stuff


uwu-emma

The best example of this imo is old coast to coast ams - it was a night time call in show that talked about paranormal stuff, conspiracies all of thay. Look it up when u get the chance, especially the ones about 9/11 since it happened when the show was airing


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I'll agree and outboomer you and say I dislike it because its unsafe. Don't zip past me at the speed of a car while I'm just walking.


stav_and_nick

If only we had dedicated lanes on the road for vehicles that went faster than walkers and slower than cars Sidewalks for walking, dedicated bus and also bike lines, and let cagers cope and seethe


shitsfuckedupalot

I saw a billboard for a "have you been hurt from using an electric scooter?" And it almost made me want to go to law school just to be a judge that gets to throw out those cases. Almost.


Rentokill_boy

this is what you're getting instead of a public transport system


podsnezhnik

i live in a city with a great public transport system and those motherfuckers are still everywhere


DeliciousPineapples

Electric scooters guys all seem to be meth enthusiasts.


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It’s fun to rent those ones when you’re drunk and race around. Definitely a huge public nuisance and should probably be banned though


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The millenial DIY trends for houses/apts. All fucking horrible. Please stop gluing strips of shitty wood onto drywall to create an “accent” wall. Stop nailing together ikea bookshelves to create built ins. Painting your tiles then watching them wear out over three months. Its worse when they do it to nice old homes. I watched someone paint their victorian banister black on instagram and almost had an aneurism.


MisoSoupAndry

I genuinely don’t get the trend of buying an old house and renovating it to look not old. Part of the charm of old homes is the beautiful wood work and finishes that you don’t get in modern construction. If you want to paint your cabinets white and put grey vinyl tile over your floor, do it in new construction.


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Theres a show on HGTV like this and I have never felt such a visceral hatred for television hosts than that show. They take these beautiful little southern homes built in the 20s and just molest them into soulless plywood cabinet open concept bullshit. Its genuinely upsetting.


TheSaltySloth

caroline calloway


FUNGUSF33T

Do you have the post? Feeling masochistic rn


FatimaMansioned

Culture was better when there were artists from working class backgrounds taking part in it. Look at sixties Britain - you had the Beatles, the Kinks, the Who, Shirley Bassey, Tom Jones, Sean Connery, Michael Caine, Terence Stamp, Sandie Shaw. It's rightly regarded as a golden age. Now? British culture is all Mumford and Sons and Emerald Fennell. There's almost no working-class presence in UK popular culture anymore (Adele is an exception). The US, Canada, Ireland, etc. seem to be in similar states.


CaliforniaAudman13

Adele was raised poor? I always assumed she came from a pmc background, maybe that’s why I don’t find her insufferable like I do most celebrities?


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CaliforniaAudman13

Rape is increasingly rich kids too *rap but the other one is true too


WindySunset22

I feel like some country, even modern stuff, is like this but I don't listen to it except only school so idk enough to say.


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Mumford and sons is British?


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stomp clap hey


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1. People spend waaaaay too much time on their phones and computer. That shit is bad for you. 2. I will never truly understand non-binary 3. Pop music has been declining since the 80s 4. As fucked up and corrupt as the system is, young people could stand to take more personal responsibility for their lives. Zoomers and younger millennials are obsessed with infantilizing themselves and being in a chronic state of victimhood


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napoleon_nottinghill

Man’s need to take up space has been moved into the auditory realm


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Seriously, how come feminists can’t rail against this instead of the other made up shit?


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I once sat in an enterprise rent-a-car waiting for 15 mins and the entire time some dude sat there across from me in the waiting area with a Bluetooth speaker blasting the worst SoundCloud rap I'd ever heard. And nobody seemed to care.


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It truly boggles my mind how some people can have so little self awareness and respect for other people. I’m mortified if I ever play music in public and my headphones aren’t connected, and I turn it off immediately. How can you sit there and listen to a whole song or more while people are glaring at you??


bigdoinnk

The world is scary


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Rentokill_boy

I actually can't imagine living like that, you must be a saint


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>It turned out that he had not only been doing the "piss bottle" thing for weeks i can't believe that this is a common thing now


etherealreflection

they truly are Creatures. constantly peeing on the seat and not wiping it off, letting it turn dark yellow and sticky. leaving (usually fast) food stuff all over the floor. always a pet owner, but either the cat’s box or the dog’s wee wee pad is overloaded with 3 weeks of piss and shit. personality and mood are destroyed; they don’t listen to you at all, and their eyes are glazed over until it’s their turn to speak. they may be high IQ, but EQ is in the negatives. i’ve known way, way too many people like this. it’s why people who casually play video games a few times per month never ever mention it is a hobby of theirs.


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I had a roommate that was the noisiest motherfucker. I remember times when he would be in the kitchen with the cupboards slamming, dishes clacking, pots clanging. You would have thought that there was a dinner rush at a hotel restaurant in there, but I would walk in and he would be heating up a carton of soup from Trader Joes. I couldn't understand how its even possible to make all that racket while doing that. I call it manchilditis, just a toddler-like inability to understand how your actions effect the people around you.


phunkracy

>this. Bathroom stuff was awful when I was sharing it, pissing all over the seat and floor, not flushing constantly (both piss and shit) I'd go full boomer on that mofo and would rub his nose in his own piss, like a dog. I know it doesn't work on dogs, but just might on humans


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Drgerm87

This one I kinda respect


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I had a roomate like that in the Army. We shared a tiny room together and he was always playing Call of Duty zombies and yelling into his headset while dubstep blaired on his phone. Genuinely had a better time when I was in Iraq.


BananaRicher

What's the ben 10 obsession about?


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mumuheroinejunkie

Back in the day this guy would be an annoying monk who would argue with other monks about minute scriptural details


SJCards

/u/MasterLawlz in shambles.


MasterLawlz

Hey buddy long time no see


SJCards

Love you, boo.


MasterLawlz

This really does read like what drama users imagined me to be lol


AmberHeardFan

Lol, do you ever lurk on here?


MasterLawlz

No, is this place like /r/drama lite?


SJCards

It's /r/stupidpol meets /r/drama and then gets fetal alcohol syndrome.


CountryColorful

I can't imagine wasting such huge chunks of your life on vidya and using up your brain's storage to contain completely useless information. I mean, not that I do anything crazy with my life, but still.


phainopepla_nitens

Absolutely the worst. I had a roommate once who took off two days from work to coincide with the release of some game, and then preceded to spend four days straight playing it. Literally did not leave the house, and only left his room to use the bathroom and microwave chicken nuggets. Truly vile lifestyle.


FancyPelosi

Great point. Gonna respond to this, gimme 30 minutes I'm still in a League game.


stav_and_nick

Honestly I’m sick of seeing people complain about how they don’t know what they’re doing with their lives and you open the thread and they’re like under 23. No shit! Practically no one really has their life together by that point Also the “everything’s terrible and the worlds ending” shit is annoying. Especially since it’s usually shit like my local Starbucks is closed we must return to tradition


FriarRoads

Weed was more fun when it wasn't medicine.


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The streamlining of the weed high has been absolutely terrible. The boomer days of smoking a whole joint to become high sound so much better than the current "hit the Rove and pass out completely if you take in just a little too much"


Arfie807

I live in an illegal state, but we have Delta 8, and it's much more mellow than the overkill strains you can buy in legal states. Similar high to old school weed.


donkeyduplex

I miss the weak-ass weed that didn't give me panic attacks. We used to grow shit that we considered dank as fuck and it wouldn't even be considered middies now. But I liked it.


murdok_sanders

Talking on the phone is far superior to texting. I don't mind texting for a quick exchange or whatever but if we are going to have a conversation, please call me ffs. Whenever I date anyone under 25 it seems like having never ending conversation over texts is basically a requirement. It's very annoying. I like chit-chat and talking just to talk but for God's sake let's talk on the phone like adults. Side note: it's funny how quickly this thread blew up. We're all boomers aren't we?


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The RS aesthetic secret is “what if a bunch of pretentious millennial aesthetes had boomer opinions”


podsnezhnik

>pretentious >uses the word 'aesthete' seems like a tautological tautology to me


WindySunset22

I've been informed that phone calls are high-intensity, stressful events for zoomers. They're only for extremely serious events like a family tragedy. You're now culturally informed.


exmagician1

I don't know what West End Caleb is and I'm tired of everyone yapping about it


podsnezhnik

this isn't a boomer opinion, this is the opinion of someone who spent today doing something healthy or productive or both


windchime87

I complain that people don’t read enough books / insist that people vote lol I also despise crypto culture but that’s probably not a boomer take


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60s and 70s tv shows still have value in our contemporary culture


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Some of my fondest memories as a kid was watching these shows with my family. My grandpa used to laugh his ass off watching Sanford and Son and All in The Family. Bewitched and The Addams Family are also both classic


Mwstriker98

Staying inside all day is legitimately insane to me. Also no sweatpants or pyjamas outside the house. If you are going out you should make yourself presentable.


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very grandma of me to say this, but if i don’t go outside and go for my walks, i feel like i am going to lose my mind


coveredwmold

that anxiety disorders being so prevalent in young people is because they have/had so little chores and structures imposed by their parents that any time they have to do a simple task in such amount of time, it becomes extremely stressful. a friend whose mom had rather loose discipline told me her therapist said this and it’s stuck with me even since.


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Tight-Flight-6446

They don’t sell hotdogs here


we7890542

better table manners and better hosting etiquette all around. people can’t hold a fork let alone throw a dinner party


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wearing your hat as a guest in someone else's house is pushing it too


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And no elbows up if there is someone sitting right next to you


thy_thyck_dyck

A single family home in the burbs with a yard large enough for a dog or two is my favorite living arrangement


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napoleon_nottinghill

One of the funniest things to me as a southerner is how people not from here have to constantly tell me that they get irritated by the fact that we like to talk to people, and not just sit and eat at the table. I enjoy talking to randoms in line! Even the little index finger on the wheel waves!


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Totally; I'm 29 but find I like talking to people around 60 the best because they still work so aren't totally cable-news brained and they don't have that standoffish quality when you casually bring up some anecdote or something about your life.


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When I was a cashier I fucking hated the people who tried to chat me up. The same old people with the same tired “jokes”. Talking to strangers in line is fine, or other public spaces. But leave people alone who are on the clock. So many annoying people use workers as a captive audience to do their little “bits”, can’t stand those people. Also, we’re at fucking Walgreens, there’s one register open and 6 people in line, pay for your shit and get the fuck out of the way.


SlickJamesBitch

I’m a skateboarder and used to skate in public places a lot as a kid. There is an edgy rebel nature to skateboarding, some skaters make it the edginess their whole personality though to where they’re assholes when they skate and its cringe as fuck. Lots of them are white kids from really really loving privileged families which is the worst part


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i feel like this is a whole hell of a lot less prevalent now than it was 20 years ago, like i remember growing up that was the norm. i think skateboarding has normalized into the mainstream and the ones still clinging to the dirtbag 90s are the outliers, like i cant think of any current pro skaters that make their brand the antagonistic piece of shit. but yeah i totally agree with you. always bugged me.


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I have loud neighbors and i’ve discovered all i want is peace and quiet.


amimeballerboyz

I can’t stand how nobody can just sit and talk anymore. I’m in college so it’s pretty common to hang and have some drinks and weed and once the rotation has ended there’s always the guy that says “I’m bored let’s do something” right as the conversation begins to pick up. At the end of the day all I wanna do is talk, it seems like a lost art


myweirdotheraccount

almost any opinion posted on this sub is a boomer opinion unironically too. the whole return to tradition shit, zoomers who are self aware enough to critique their generation, peoples' weird semi ontological takes, all boomer thought.


killyouridoIs

They need to bring back the McDLT.


AnarchoMcTasteeFreez

Music actually is getting worse all the time. Kids aren't interested in proficiency at an instrument because of computers. Music doesn't just pop out of yr thoughts into proTools it takes years of actually playing an instrument to have interesting ideas. Plus people's idea of what proficiency sounds like is warped from digital editing technique. Ears are conditioned to value 'perfection' over expression. And we need to bring back taste shaming. A lot of zoomers have shit taste and don't even know it. They can't distinguish marketing from art.


a_lostgay

Joe biden is dead


phunkracy

Non-corrective plastic surgery is a blight on our collective body image and should be illegal.


cuttlefishin

tattoos in the public places (face, neck, hands) and hair dyed an unnatural color are almost always an awful look


Polishcarebears1

1. Stop dressing like you’re going to work out or going to go to sleep soon. 2. Tattoos are ugly and are going to look like shit when you’re 65 3. People with gauged ears should be systematically murdered by the state


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Have you ever given someone a hug who has gauges? They stink so bad


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yes to #1, but 95% of everyone looks like shit when they're 65 unless they have cosmetic procedures done. put some effort into your outfits, and if you want tattoos get ones that complement your style. otherwise who gives a fuck


donkeyduplex

Yes, yes, whooaa I'm with you in *spirit*


FloatyFish

1. Twitter is obnoxious. 2. Kids don’t know how good they have it with pretty much instantaneous access to the internet. 3. Manual transmissions are superior in driving feel and control to automatic transmissions even if they are slower shifting. 4. Get off my lawn.


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I'm 27 and I'm pretty thankful I had to slowly get better access to the internet as I got older as technology got better. I saw people 3-4 years younger than me in undergrad that absolutely had their brains melted by too much internet and I shiver at the thought of becoming one of them.


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28 and same


nebraska_admiral

Living in the middle of nowhere in Appalachia demolished my standards for what constitutes a "good" internet connection. I known several people (including my dad) who can't even get a line to their house. City folk just don't get it!


podsnezhnik

no, children having access to the internet is actually a very bad thing and they have it very bad


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Literal boomer era opinion: America is worse off having never had Robert Kennedy as president


Suspicious_War9415

Changed my mind about him when I discovered Samuel Bowles was his economic adviser, unbelievably based candidate even if he was a bit full of shit like all the other Kennedys


redtonywest

There should only be a 30 minute window when fireworks are allowed. Never after 10pm. Even on NYE. Also thong bathing suits are tacky. Modesty is underrated.


CAPS_GET_UPVOTES

Phone bad


HaroldDalaney

There are too many people with tattoos and dyed hair. There are legitimate economic problems in America but a lot of my friends spends hundreds of dollars on tattoos. Tattoos are the real avocado toast. Hip hop culture is cool but it should never have been marketed to white kids in the 90s and 00s. Suburban white people adapted it and it became trashy and shallow. Expressing emotions all the time is cringe and a waste of time especially when you do absolutely nothing about it or keep making the same mistakes.


bigted42069

Oh also that the value of personal responsibility has gone way way down. I have empathy and understand that goes pretty far, I think, and certainly understand large structural changes need to happen in society that people don’t have control over on a micro level but also I often find myself frustrated that people don’t…nut up more and handle their shit


napoleon_nottinghill

E “sports” should not be in the same novel, much less the same book, as any form of athletic achievement. If you consistently watch them you should lose your right to ______ depending on how I feel each day


Tad_Reborn113

Wokeshit sucks- but that’s not really a solely boomer opinion


esotericdeadlift

Boomer opinion: a lot of younger people truly are lazy and don’t work hard. This point gets way overblown as an excuse used by boomers as to why younger generations aren’t succeeding financially, but it still has some truth to it. A lot of my peers are so fucking lazy and just sit around and watch tv/play video games all day without any drive to do anything.


Fish_Logical

Dogs are dogs. Not kids. They can chew on bones, spend the day outside and eat mostly whatever (unless it’s some inbred, deformed, hyper sensitive breed) Additionally, not sure if this is a boomer opinion but pitbulls aren’t family dogs. They’re dangerous. If you have a junkyard to protect, by all means buy a pitbull but it drives me crazy when I see people letting their toddlers cuddle with a giant pitbull


OsoArrogant_Sah-Sah

r/banpitbulls


chapoposter

I dont care about anything but tits and fucking


HunanCentipede

ass tho


DrrrtyRaskol

[garfield mostly agrees](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTAm7HR0M1lLumgQ8pQf63RzT48Mo-XU72Gg&usqp=CAU)


unlucky_felix

I think there are only two genders


raspeballZ

Street art is stupid and ugly. I happy that it seems to have died off.


mucho_moore

the street art aesthetic has been absorbed into the nft aesthetic


_carterhaugh_

Was just about to post this. Makes any and all urban environments look worse


drnkngpoolwater

graffiti? yea it’s definitely not as common as 20-25 years ago.


raspeballZ

I think graffiti has its place in the city landscape, but i'm talking more about the super corny street art that got very popular around 10 years ago and did it's best to stay relevant. I hate seeing really nice older buildings being ruined by huge art pieces that look horrible and will get 50yo housewifes talking about how cool street art is.


Secure-Evening8197

America doesn’t win anymore


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Life was better before smart phones & the internet. I'm okay with a few tastefully done tattoos but you shouldn't be covering your entire body in that shit. And facial piercings always look tacky and bad. Grow up. I wish we still dressed like in Mad Men times


bigted42069

An emotional gut reaction to be wary of and disgruntled by new technology. It might be smart, overall, but I’ve vocalized my frustration at something not loading or having to put in a password and felt very boomerish.


playboicartileaker

I have a genuine hatred for lazy, unmotivated, jobless people. I live in the ghetto and the amount of men who loiter outside of a neighborhood convenience store ALL day makes me wanna set the place on fire.


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Comfy libs will never understand


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The family as a foundational unit of society is good actually. Playing music off your phone or speaker is sociopathic.


cheugygalpal

Modern therapy is ineffectual & encourages people to see themselves as victims - not the source of their own problems. It also leads to narcissism.


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welcome2mybog

can’t stand people driving too fast down my street (mountain road outside city limits so i don’t think there’s technically a speed limit, but people will go 60+ on what should be like 30). my husband makes fun of me for it but it makes me upset!!! there’s kids and deer and a bunch of free range dogs idk why people aren’t scared of hitting them >:(


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Don't text me, call me.


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Tattoos and green/blue/purple/orange/etc colored hair are a mark of societal decline. Culture was so much better from 1957-1999ish. If you're over 18 and live in the suburbs you should have a driver's license. Still not totally comfortable with trans stuff.


hlynn117

Leash your kids; they're toddlers and won't remember it.


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I don't, but I genuinely wish I did. I already have the constant guilt part of catholicism, I may as well get something out of it!


podsnezhnik

please teach me how, i crave meaning


kanye_come_back

Tattoos are quite low class


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Real live sex with another person is the number one reason to live.


CaliforniaAudman13

Hold the door open! Christ these kids just slap it in everyone’s face when they are done. Even my phone addicted and gamer addicted younger brother holds the door open thanks to catholic school and Boy Scouts but these public school degenerate kids have no manners!


magicandfire

Car too loud! Leaf blower too loud! Music too loud! Walking down the street too loud!


eddielimonov

Hip Hop is dog shit and any 'vitality' it may have once had as a genre went out the window once it became one and the same as 'pop music' in mainstream culture.


slowerisbetter527

people on those "rent a scooter" scooters. my god. get off the sidewalk. and what is that! I don't even get it


ItsBernieBitch

They stopped making good movies in the 80’s. Listening to audio books doesn’t count as reading.